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Anyone had a 3rd degree Tear?

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h27 · 19/09/2005 20:04

I had my DS 16 Months ago and i had a 3rd degree tear! I have not met anyone who has been through this? it was very upsetting! It took me sometime to get over as i was very sore! and bruised! (too much info sorry), i would love to see if there is anyone out there who has been through this! I know it is quite rare! I am very worried about trying for another baby as i do not want to go through it again, the doctor does not seem to take me understand the anxiety it caused

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floops · 22/09/2005 20:26

Hi h27,

I had a depp third degree tear with my second. Had to be seen by the general surgeons who recommended not to have any more children. Four years later am expecting number three. My consultant has basically explained to me that I can opt for a c section or they could carry out an episiotomy during labour to prevent it happening again.

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kim5145 · 22/09/2005 21:16

Hi!
My daughter was born in March and came out with her hands up near her head. I had several tears, one third degree. It was horrible. Especially when i had to wait ages for the specialist to see me! (i had to hold a maternity towel there!) not nice. I was in agony for ages. Bled alot and it hurt when i had a wee! (sorry if too much info) I still remember the pain!

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KristinaM · 22/09/2005 21:24

My SIL had this after her first baby. She was in a lot of pain for a long time. She has since had another two babies, both by elective C section.She was very happy with this choice and recovered from the sections very well.

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lilsmum · 22/09/2005 21:24

i too had a 3rd degree tear with my dd (who is now almost 20mth), i healed well, and quickly...and as dd is my first i personally dont think the pain was too bad (but i have nothing to compare to iykwim).

i had a spinal to be stitched after the birth and sex was VERY painful for a fair few months...i am currently ttc and i am not "too" worried tbh...people have told me just because i tore badly the first time, doesnt definately mean it will happen again.

xx

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SoupDragon · 22/09/2005 22:13

I had a 3rd degree tear with DS1. Had a lovely ultrasound scan about 10 weeks after to see how it had healed and was told there was no reason not to have any more children vaginally. Had what I rememeber as 2 hours (but may not have been!) of repair work under spinal block and all healed absolutely fine and was not too sore either.

DS2 born 2 years later, had an "elective" episiotomy as per my birth plan when the tear looked vulnerable and all was fine. No further tearing and again, all healed up with no problems.

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SpikeMomma · 30/09/2005 21:10

Hello h27 - i had one in July. Glad you started this thread as i have my good days and bad days about the whole thing. It was more of the shock afterwards, as the birth was a really good experience. Felt the tear really tainted things.

Don't know what level the 3rd degree tear was - can't face finding out to be honest. Things are fine, think i healed ok. But, haven't had sex yet - kacking it about that...

I'm equally as worried about more children. I had a big baby 9lbs 4oz, born very quickly. They've said that i could have a normal delivery and they would just cut me if it looked a worry - but i don't think i trust some one to make that decision - and what if it came even quicker - nightmare! I really do not want to risk being incontinent. The alternative is an elective cesearean. I know i'll be really scared about my next pregnancy, i've got bloody SPD to contend with too - but i really want more, lots...a football team {Hear's dh thud on floor}

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sweetkitty · 30/09/2005 21:20

Like kim my DD was born with her hands by her face, I had secind degree tear which was bad enough, had to lie with legs in stirrups being stitched for ages and it hurt even with the local and gas and air. Am pregnant with no 2 and it does worry me.

I healed well btw and sex has been no different since before although the erm terrain has changed down there (have an extra bit of skin).

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RachD · 30/09/2005 21:22

Hope none of the comments I am about to make are insensitive.
My mum's best friend has a daughter who had 3rd degree.
The pain has been terrible. Healing not good. Sex not really pleasureable. Quite bad incontinence.
She has been advised to sue the hospital. Lawyer says she has a strong case.
Lawyer says 'more ladies have grounds to sue, than they realise'.

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SpikeMomma · 01/10/2005 20:23

RachD - just to counter balance - with a bit of positive-ness (that a word..?!), so no one freaks out (although what you say can happen), I didn't feel any pain when mine happened. It was uncomfortable afterwards, but probably equal to any type of nick or tear needing stitches 'down there'. My midwife said i'd healed quicker than some 2nd degree tears - which was encouraging. And, touch wood, don't seem to have any incontinence issues.

I think the likes of sueing comes into play if it isn't seen to appropriatly. I know of someone who had one, who went 12 hrs before it was noticed - she prolapsed in the shower . In her case, she does have grounds to sue. Problems occur if it's not dealt with effectively.

Who made child birth such hard work. One look at my lad's face though - and ooooohhh it makes it so worth it!

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marne · 01/10/2005 21:04

I had 2nd degree tear and graze, was in alot of pain for a long time, couldnt walk for a week. Sex was very painful until over 1 year after. The hospital didnt realy explain to me what they had done i had too read my notes to find out. Found it very stressful and painful, i never expected to be in that much pain for weeks after.
Anyway im pg again and due in march, i am also woried of tearing again.

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Minerva2005 · 04/10/2005 21:54

I had a third degree tear when DD was born in 2003. Had a very fast labour, 2 hours in total and DD came out like a champagne cork out of a bottle.

I had no pain relief during labour and I felt myself tear - if I read one more article by Sheila

Bl**dy Kitzinger about the perinium becoming numb when the head crowns..... well in my case it didn't and I certainly felt DD being born.

After having natural childbirth, had to have an epidural/spinal block and spent 2hours in thearte being sown up.

It took ages to heal and was very painful for about a year. I would never risk another vaginal birth, but would opt for a C-section next time.

Pity really, as apart from the tear, my childbirth experience was good!

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Branster · 04/10/2005 22:33

Hi h27
sorry to hear you were so traumnitised by your birth experioence. You will feel better as times passes and make sure you see a good consultant before trying for a new baby.

I had DD by ventouse devivery which resulted in a bad 3rd degree tear. TBH I wasn't all that surpised because I knew all along I should not have had a vaginal delivery but that's just how it all happenend in the end.

I was very traumitezed by the whole episode just like you and have seen a consultant etc etc. Fortunatelly for me, DH has been extremely supportive of me so I felt at least someone cares about my feelings and my future.

I practical terms, after delivering DD, the doctor stiched it all up on the delivery bed but it all went wrong and stiched it all very badly. Also, i could feel every time the needle was used. It was horrible. Very quickly the doctor then decided I need to go to the theatre to unstich everything and do the job properly so I was taken to surgery, they gave me an epidural and got to work. The actual procedure thsi time was not bad because I could not feel any pain and I was chatting to all and saundry in the theatre whilst the stiches were being re-done. I was on very strong pain relif afterwards for about a week or two and healed pretty quickly so no actual pain. Just slight discomfort when sitting down for about a week.

I had regualr checks for quite a while and saw a specialist a couple of times too. I rememebr he used to have a nurse with a huge torch .

I had absolutely no desire to try penetrative sex for about 9-10 months afterwards and DH was really good about it all and respected my wish and never tried to push me with anything like that. I think he was shocked by the seriousness of it all actually.

I had no pain during sex when I finally decided to give it a go.

I ahve been doing Kegel exercises religiously since giving birth and I think that helped with a fast healing at the time.

It's all fine now down tehre, it's still tight etc but I still get upset when thinking about it all.

I was told to go back to see this specialist if I ever get pregnant again and he would observe how it all progressess and advise on how to deliver next time. He also told me that contarry to what people might think, most of the damage to the pelvic floor happens during the actual pregnancy when the wieght of the baby presses down. that cannot be fixed if it occurs, whereas actual birth problems might be remedied easier.

Me and DH also went to discuss our birth notes at teh hospital after having DD because we were both affected by what happened and that helped too. I also read as much as I could at the time on this topic and that helped a bit.
One thing I rememeber clearly was a couple of days after coming home, DD was asleep in the moses basket with DH downstairs and I went for a lie down upstairs. I heard a good friend of ours coming in to congratulate us and see the baby and I did not go downstairs to say hello. DH assumed I was asleep. But I was just lying in bed crying an dfeeling srry for myself that ithis happened to me/us. That was the only time I cried about it all and it did me good. I felt better afterwards!

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