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Child mental health

OCD in a five year old?

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Empross76 · 29/08/2013 20:24

Hi there,

DD (5 and a half) has started to concern us - recently she seems to worry a lot about germs.

Some examples:

  • today a little girl who she didn't know touched her leg while we were in a queue. She told me she wanted to wash her leg because of this when we got home.

    *She grabbed a leaf whilst in the park and fussed about how it may be poisonous and that she needed to go back home to wash her hands.

    *She fusses a lot when she wees, taking ages to wipe and using three lots of loo roll. I've shown her again and again to model how she should do it, but she obviously doesn't feel that my way is enough!

    *After having a wee or poo she washes her hands for ages - with soap, she told me she does 20 scratches of her fingers on one palm, then 20 on the other, then 20 between her fingers and so on... She did a 'Glitterbugs' thing at school where they showed germs under ultraviolet light and showed the correct hand-washing technique, so I think this is where this behaviour comes from.

    *a friend's son drank from a cup at our house (her favourite cup) and for two days afterwards she refused to drink from it, even though it had been washed.

    *she fussed about using the toilet in a disabled/baby change cubicle because of 'germs'.

    *she's very squeamish about her little brother (2 and a half) and often won't drink from the same bottle as him because of 'germs'.

    *possibly the earliest example of this - the only time she was ever 'naughty' at nursery was when she was 3 - she point blank refused to hold hands with with a little girl and was put on the naughty chair. When we asked her about it at home she said it was because the little girl had sticky hands.

    We've tried to reassure her regarding the examples above, and focussed on the fact that germs are normal and yes, you do need to wash and be clean, but not too much, and that it's actually bad for you not to have any exposure to germs. But we also don't want to make too much of a fuss as she is the type to be encouraged to continue as she likes the attention!

    There is a history of OCD in the family on both sides - DMIL has it, but superstitions rather than cleaning. It is done privately so DD wouldn't have seen this as a learned behaviour. My deceased grandmother had severe OCD regarding cleaning but, again, DD was never exposed to this as she died before she was born. I'm wondering if these are relevant not as learned behaviours but as a genetic disposition?

    DH and I are not particularly houseproud and don't hoover or dust that much (Confused) so it's not learned from us!

    So, what does this sound like to you? And what should we do?

    Thanks.
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NeoMaxiZoomDweebie · 30/08/2013 10:14

Gosh she sounds like me as a child....I'm still the same but rather better at dealing with it. I throw cups away if anyone other than DH or the DC drink from them...my fave ones of course. I do think a trip to the GP on your own might be a good idea...voice your concerns...there is a lot of help today for OCD and they will hopefully release her from this....cognitive behaviour therapy won't even seem like therapy to her...it will seem like play.

You're doing the right thing re not making a fuss to her...because no amount of reassurance will convince her that a hand isn't germy or a cup infested....she needs some proper help....but I'd also like to reassure you that despite my own issues, I lead a very normal and happy life...I'm not depressed and nor do I have any other mental health issues. this is very common but you';re doing something to help DD. Pop to the GP without DD to talk about it.x

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working9while5 · 30/08/2013 10:32

There is a book called Parenting Your Anxious Child with Mindfulness and Acceptance... it's based on a form of therapy that is an offshoot from CBT.

I have an OCD dx though I'm often a bit dubious about the diagnostic term... sometimes labels are a terrible millstone.

Remember the germs are not the problem, it is her worry about germs that is the problem. I think it needs to be professionally handled probably but start with that book.

With OCD, the key is exposure and not giving into compulsions. Try not to make a big deal out of it but maybe explain to her about worry... that sometimes we feel very worried SO worried that our worry stops us having fun and makes us feel funny on the inside.. Maybe model things like washing your hands 5 times each hand and show her it doesn't make you sick, talk about friendly bacteria that help our tummies work Tec.. just try and ease out that rigidity. Sensory play to reduce tactile defensiveness.. how is she with this? You could put soapy stuff and glitter in bags and get her to squish them if she is funny with getting stuff on her hands... build up to having mess on her hands... from mess to dirt for short periods.

But check out that book. Downloadable on Kindle.

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Empross76 · 30/08/2013 13:20

Thanks so much ladies. Got GP appt for myself in a few weeks do will jot down the symptoms and ask about it then.

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