Wonder why this forum is almost empty??

(63 Posts)
Erebus Fri 07-Jun-13 10:14:02

Surely there must be loads of calorie-counters out there, though I suspect many are CC via 5:2.

I'm CC'ing for 49 days, to the start of the DC's school hols. (Am only on day 45 but started at 12/1, was 11/11 this morning!) I am 'on' 1300 a day but must say I've been under-eating quite a lot so must increase a bit.

HaPPy8 Fri 07-Jun-13 10:21:12

I was thinking the same! The myfitnesspal people are mainly calorie counting i would think? But that thread is in the weight loss chat forum i just noticed. Well done on your loss so far. I think counting calories is only way for me. I am not good at cutting out whole food groups and any diets that allow 'free foods' I am no good at portion control. I also like the flexibility of a straight forward calorie count.

Erebus Fri 07-Jun-13 12:03:41

Also, I think you get to a point where you know the calorific value of food so you're not constantly weighing and measuring everything, don't you?

It 'shocked' me the extent to which women know this sort of stuff, I guess being surrounded by diets and 'the need to be thin' all of our lives. DH joined me on a diet once, and did the shopping. Never have I seen such quantities of dried fruit, nuts, muesli, avocados, cheese- all, apparently 'diet' food...

His BIL who seriously needs to lose weight was with us recently. He was doing WW but it demonstrated to me how such things don't really 'educate' as he thinks 'a healthy breakfast' is 2 pieces of toast spread with butter and honey! But washed down with green tea confused...

SO I shall stick to my CC til I have lost the amount I want to, maybe to 10/10, then I am considering 5:2 with a nod towards knowing what 2000 cals a day looks like!

Good luck, Happy!

TinaSurrey Fri 07-Jun-13 23:27:42

I am calorie counting. The only way for me! Tried 5/2 and it doesn't work for me. I was moody and irritable by the evening on fast days and over "treated" on eating days so net result no loss. For the first time I am exercising too. I've just started the NHS Couch to 5k running programme.

Good luck all. I lost over 3 stone calorie counting 6 years ago & made my target weight. It does work. I maintained that weight to within a 5lb variance since then but recently lost focus and now 6lb over the top of my acceptable range so aiming to lose 8lbs. What are others' targets?

Erebus Sat 08-Jun-13 16:47:07

Hi, Tina.

At my heaviest 2 years ago I was 13 stone shock, not a good look at 5'5 1/2"! I actually don't know how I lost weight to what has been my 'start' weight for 'getting serious' this time, which was early January, when I was 12/8. I Paul McKenna'ed down to 11/10 where I sat for several weeks; then I had a stressful family visit when I just knew I couldn't concentrate on mindful eating and not murdering my in-laws simultaneously... so I confess I ate lots and drank like a fish for 2 weeks. Result was 12/1, but I set-to again and used that as my 'start' weight. I am ultimately aiming for 10/10, and currently I am 11/10. I am planning on CC'ing for '49 days' which is the length of this half term, and on the day after the DC's finish, we go on holiday to France. This won't be a bikini holiday as it were (Brittany? Nope!) but I know that I won't want to to super-focused whilst there; 49 days is psychologically do-able and there's only 2 nights out to hijack me if I'm not careful, planned. I have no target for 49 days as such, just see how I go. So far:

Day 49 12/1
Day 44 11/10 (today)

Which I agree looks like a big loss but AF has just happened so a fair bit will be water retention, now gone.

DH inadvertently blew it a bit this morning by bringing me tea and 2 slices of toast and honey, in bed. 400 cals in one go! I'd planned on being less well disciplined today (there's a nice bottle of pinot chilling!), but know I can't guts all day; so I had a Heinz squeezy soup for lunch and a handful of peanuts, 145 and 60 respectively, so now have 620 cals to use. We'll have a Hairy Dieters crunchy chicken and salad, new pots for the DCs and DH, I'm thinking 300 odd cals (will check) and I shall indulge in at least 2, large, chilled glasses of wine grin.

I did think about a 30 min 'run/fast walk' on the treadmill to buy some cals but I'm not in the mood. I did go an an hour's bike ride with the DSs but didn't really break a sweat! Tomorrow for that.

juneybean Sat 08-Jun-13 17:35:43

I think all the weight loss areas have been split so any one doing MFP probably haven't noticed yet!

riverboat Sun 09-Jun-13 22:38:16

Agree MFP thread should probably be here...

I went through a phase of calorie counting as a student, so have always had a rough idea of how many calories were in things, though for over a decade I didn't actually count.

After moving to France I slowly gained almost a stone over 3 years, and 6 weeks ago decided enough was enough! Am now aiming for around 1600 cals a day with MFP, usually come in a little bit under during the week and a bit (sometimes a lot!) over at the weekend.

I had totally blocked out how high in calories things like cheese, butter, olive oil etc were. I soon realised where that extra stone had come from!

Want to lose a stone or just under. Have so far lost 6lbs, but think the last 6 are going to be tough!

Good luck all.

I'm doing 5:2 using MFP - I eat my tdee on non fast days and 500 ish on fast days. Works really well for me.

TinaSurrey Mon 10-Jun-13 05:39:05

What's MFP?

Erebus Mon 10-Jun-13 08:08:08

My Fitness Pal - which people use to record calories and exercise etc.

CuppaTea83 Mon 10-Jun-13 14:22:31

Yes, I'm calorie counting. On 1200 cal per day. I'm on Day 3 at the moment. I've been eating 1000 so far. Just for the first week as I want a bit of a kick start. Will make sure I stick with 1200 after the first week.

Ilovemydogandmydoglovesme Mon 10-Jun-13 14:39:19

I use My Net Diary which I think is similar to MFP. I calorie count every day. I'm obsessed with recording it all in black and white. Trouble is even when it goes over my allowance I still faithfully record it and don't change what I'm eating. confused

I'm back on my treadmill now though so hopefully it will make a bit of difference. I was about 12.7 and got down to 11.4 but am back up to 11.10. I began to hate the treadmill so decided to see if I could diet alone but the weight piled on. I need to burn it off, I just hate doing it.

CuppaTea83 Mon 10-Jun-13 14:45:53

I think recording it all, even on the bad days is key Ilove You would probably (if you're anything like me) eat even more if you weren't recording it all.
I'm starting at 11st 6. Do you have a goal weight?

riverboat Mon 10-Jun-13 17:23:32

Ilove - I used to do treadmill 3 times a week and got heartily sick of it too. Could you mix with other forms of exercise? I now do treadmill max once a week, and do Shred and Yoga DVDs as well as dance mat. Its much less of a slog.

Ilovemydogandmydoglovesme Mon 10-Jun-13 20:34:21

Once youngest is in full time school in September I'm going to go swimming too. I can do half a mile in about half an hour so hopefully that's helping. Without putting the strain on my joints either.

I want to lose a stone by the beginning of September because I'm going to a wedding. Ultimately I'd like to be about nine stone but that's probably not going to be for a while.

Erebus Mon 10-Jun-13 20:35:06

Ilive and others: Do you think it might help to try and see the treadmill as a necessary evil?! I know that sounds odd but I read recently of a successful dieter who said that once she'd decided there was no point trying to like exercise (I don't!) she found that if she embraced her treadmill/exercise time as just something, like cleaning your teeth (or your annual smear!) that you just have to accept you have to do, thus get on with it.

I am very early days, here, but I found that if the treadmill is just something 'I do', no big deal (and can have a shower straight afterwards - I hate feeling hot and sticky, an unfortunate trait in a semi-Australian grin), I can just get on with it. I choose what I watch on the TV- it must be engaging!- and off I go.

I am 'concerned' about three ( 3! ) potential pitfall nights later this week: 2 nights away with a mate in a hotel, eating out (and drinking out?!); then another mate's birthday do. I think what I will do is go easy on night one away; then eat, drink and be merry on the next two, whilst being mindful during the day-times.

CuppaTea83 Mon 10-Jun-13 21:05:01

Ilove I'm aiming for 9 stone too.
It's been so long since I've seen that number. smile

Because the first law of thermodynamics does not apply to weight loss.

gaggiagirl Mon 10-Jun-13 21:15:32

(((((waves at everyone and takes a seat))))))))
I lost 3st 3years ago CCing and have maintained that weight more or less. I fancy losing another 9lb just so i can reach my dream weight of 8st 10
I CC every day its a great way to watch your weight. I'm currently on 1200 a day.

CuppaTea83 Mon 10-Jun-13 23:43:57

Hi gaggia I would love to get down to 8st 10. I'm aiming for 9st as I feel it should be totally attainable but if I could get back into the 8s (not since my teens so not sure if realistic) that would be amazing.

HaPPy8 Tue 11-Jun-13 08:54:06

I am aiming for 8st 7 (am a shortie) and hope I will e happy with that. Rainy weather makes it much harder to resist comfort food .... must stay strong today!

CuppaTea83 Tue 11-Jun-13 09:47:22

Good Luck HaPPy8 I'm a shorty too. grin

gaggiagirl Wed 12-Jun-13 13:57:23

I'm a shorty too! 5ft no inches! I reckon that I should be allowed a few more pounds due to my medical condition called massive norkage ((((( wonders if its possible to weigh norks on kitchen scales ))))))

HaPPy8 Wed 12-Jun-13 16:24:06

Ah well that is a medical condition Im afraid i don't suffer from ....not even when pregnant or BF! Heavy boobs are a good thing i would say!

amigababy Wed 12-Jun-13 17:03:13

I am CC 'ing. and C25k ing too. I didn't like the calorie apps etc so I found an expenses one and customized it so it records my calories instead of pounds and pence. I'm really pleased with it.
Starting at 10-10 and aiming to lose 10 pounds before an Aug holiday to Spain.

CC 'ing is what's always worked best inn the past for me

gaggiagirl Wed 12-Jun-13 21:43:36

I wish for a low calorie cake hmmmm that's something I don't allow myself cos its always mega numbers in calorie terms. I'm cake hungry.

CuppaTea83 Wed 12-Jun-13 22:34:28

I'm also big-boobed! Wish I wasn't though- I'm sure they must make up the bulk of my excess weight..... or thereabouts. grin

I'm currently on 1000 calories a day. Was intending moving up to 1200 after this first week but tempted to stay on 1000 if I can. I think because I'm short and my frame 1200 doesn't quite cut it for me with trying to lose weight.

HaPPy8 Thu 13-Jun-13 07:57:15

Oh you are strong cuppatea. Im on 1200 and that is hard I think! I have to be very restrained, the numbers quickly add up!

Gaggia - you can get some of those kipling slices or weight watchers slices that aren't too bad ..like this


ImTooHecsyForYourParty Thu 13-Jun-13 07:59:20

I think it's cos calorie counting is hard work and we're all looking for that magical quick fix that will do all the work for us and allow us to live on cream cakes and crisps and lose a stone a week.


Just me then grin

ImTooHecsyForYourParty Thu 13-Jun-13 08:01:04

I tell you what I have though. I have designed an excel spreadsheet that does all the calculations for me. I've got a front sheet with calories for all main stuff and a page per week, and put in all the formulas to automatically add up calories used and calories left per day and add them up to a weekly total.

I do love my spreadsheets blush

amigababy Thu 13-Jun-13 08:11:17

2 days ago dh brought home blueberry muffins and egg custard tarts! Last night he brought home a giant Walnut whip from M&S. Thanks dh! Not very helpful.
Do you increase your daily calories if you exercise? I add 150 cals per half hour of exercise, so yesterday I managed the custard tart and still stayed in my limit smile

Erebus Thu 13-Jun-13 09:35:37

Not a happy bunny, here- but also realise I am being ridiculous... maybe hormonal??!

Sit comfortable- I'm about to moan!

I weighed this morning. This is Day 12 ( of a diet I want to keep up til the last day of term). By Day 7 I'd lost 5lbs- but am aware AF kicked in on day 2 or 3 so I get that probably half of that was water retention; however, despite being really quite disciplined (I had 2 planned 'mini-blow outs' being 2 evening meals + vino, on days 6 and 8; a MBO (!) is where I eat 600 cals instead of 350 so maybe 1450-1500 for that day) today I weighed and I have not lost an ounce since day 7! So no chance of losing 2lbs a week on 1200, is there?!

Also, I am going to Brum today to meet a friend to go to Gardener's World Live- and the weather, predictably, looks shite. I can 'do' drizzle but rain driven by 50 mph gusts? In mid June? No. Last night, for the first time ever, I actually discussed with DH the possibility of returning to Australia (been here 10 years) as we are finding we're doing less and less and the weather scuppers just about anything you want to do outdoors, these days. 6 shite summers in a row! I am a massive believer that there's more to life and location that 'the weather' and recognise how many Down-Unda relocations fail because the Poms realise that wall to wall sunshine, day in, day out is all well and good but becomes mundane after a while (and often, rather too hot!) BUT, but, year after year of drizzle and blustery wind can also sap the spirit, can't it?

Anyway, we're 'stuck' for at least 4 years whilst DS2 finishes school but I am just wondering....

And the final 'thing'- DS1, Y9, has just got the results of his end of year Maths exam (which turned out to be KS3 SATS papers!)- and he got... 6H, which is exactly where he was at the end of Y8. This is a good comp in terms of academic output, but DS alleged to not know when this exam actually was (no, he chose not to tell me as he knew I'd 'make' him revise over half term), so, panic stations, night before, 4 hours revision (but not doing old SATS papers as we didn't know that was what they'd use- we're new to Y9!). Thing is, he's not stupid, just seemingly unshiftable from the 'barest minimum is good enough' mind-set. It's getting a bit late in the day, sunshine. I, panicking mum, see yet another door slowly closing on him. He thinks he wants to go to uni and 'do engineering' but he won't if he's getting 6 high for maths at the end of Y9, will he? But painfully, he's well capable of a good 2 subsets higher than he's achieving in Maths. I'd be fine if I knew he was trying at least something akin to 'his best' but he isn't.

So, today I am feeling rather down.

But, I did a 2 mile fast walk on the treadmill watching Embarrassing Fat Bodies(!) on the TV grin.... as I know our planned 4 mile walk this afternoon near Brum will be kyboshed by rain and wind.

Now I must pack as I'm leaving in an hour!!

Moan over.

amigababy Thu 13-Jun-13 09:50:14

Erebus don't lose heart. It sounds like you need some goals
mini goal- to enjoy the weekend regardless of the useless British weather.

medium goal- weight loss. 5 weeks to the end of term. Still got the potential to lose up to 10 pounds by then. ( I work in school terms too)

long term goal - work out a constructive plan to return to Australia. We've been planning to move to Spain for years. our date is 2016 due to DD school, finance etc. its still 3 years away but its getting nearer and nearer every month and everything we do heads towards it.

re your DS, would structured goal setting help him too? breaking down his idea of engineering into mini goals which start with his next 2 years at gcse.

have a great weekend x

amigababy Thu 13-Jun-13 09:52:00

Spain for exactly same reason, sun and outdoor lifestyle

gaggiagirl Thu 13-Jun-13 10:52:34

Ooh thanks Happy cake slices here I come! Its my birthday today so I am entitled to a bit cake
I got some new asda smart price mechanical scales last week got on them this morning and I kid you not my heel went through the standy on bit so I've broken my scales,shameful!

Erebus Thu 13-Jun-13 11:01:49

amiga -thanks for your kind words, it really helps! You speak a lot of sense.

I will see this lack of weight loss as a blip. I shall weigh myself again after the weekend, and I won't go mad on this weekend away! The potential is there, 2 nights in a hotel with a good friend whom I rarely see without both our families in tow, but who is slim and controlled in her eating, and doesn't drink vast amounts so nor shall I. Saturday night, back home at a mate's birthday might engender a few glasses of vino, mind grin but again, I will try and compensate with a sensible menu choice and some exercise.

Also- and I really didn't realise how this was weighing on my mind- just got the 'all clear' from a breast biopsy, half an hour ago. I knew it was a fibroadenoma, but- it's good to know. Saturday's b/d is for a friend who is in the short lull between chemo and radiation for 'just a little breast lump'... confused. We're all about 50.

OK, I'm off! So radio silence til Saturday (thankfully, you all sigh...!)

HaPPy8 Sat 15-Jun-13 07:58:19

No loss for me this week despite very careful calorie counting all week sad
Average of 1222 calories a day. Very disheartening but trying to see it as maintaining what I already lost and body adjusting. Must keep going and hope for a loss by this time next week.

gaggiagirl Sat 15-Jun-13 12:46:45

Well done for maintaining happy and well done for keeping a positive attitude its so easy to lose heart and pig out, keep with it.
I still can't weigh in due to the scale incident and I refuse to go on the boots ones they are pure cringe.

Erebus Sat 15-Jun-13 14:32:36

Well, am back, and predictably wasn't very well disciplined whilst away for 2 days- quite hard with limited food choices, mind! Plan on doing a 2 mile fast walk this afternoon- though I'm out again for a birthday do tonight!

I will weigh on Monday morning- the shock, right now, could derail all my remaining will-power!!

gaggiagirl Sun 16-Jun-13 10:30:49

Erebus I feel your pain I went to a BBQ yesterday and ate everything all day I feel ashamed. I'm going to do the shred again today to try and make up for it.

Erebus Tue 18-Jun-13 08:28:58

OK. Day 17. Still 11/10.

I have been back on the CC wagon since Day 15, having not been very discipline from the evening of Day 12 til the morning of Day 15. I suppose I ought to be pleased I'm not heavier, but if I was hoping for a 1-2lb weight loss a week, on 1200 cals, it ain't happening any more! In the first week I dropped 5lbs but knew most of that was pre-AF water retention. Maybe all of that 5lb was water and I didn't lose any fat?? Maybe 1200/1300 is too much for me?

I dunno! But it's now 5 weeks to the day to the DC's summer hols & I'd've liked to have dropped nearer to 11 stone by then sad.

gaggiagirl Tue 18-Jun-13 14:23:24

Its not recommended that any adult female eat less than 1200 calories a day but sometimes I do consider going to 1000 I bet I wouldn't manage it though x

Erebus Fri 21-Jun-13 09:14:10

Hooray! Day 20 and 11/8! After what felt like forever on 11/10.

I am really relived because I, too, don't think I could have managed much less than 1200.

So I've lost 7lbs in about 3 weeks which is OK. But the big plus is the encouragement of the loss. You can put up with 'the pain' if you're seeing some gain loss grin.

This weekend might be 'interesting' in that it's takeaway curry tonight (brother's house warming) but nothing that requires social eating tomorrow, and I'm working all day Sunday so it's easier not to graze.

Hope you're going OK, gaggia and others.

gaggiagirl Fri 21-Jun-13 13:45:42

Well done Erebus! Loss is a great motivator I've lost a pound in a fortnight but I'm pleased with that.
The shred workout is turning my thighs to granite I just wish it would do the same to my middle.

Erebus Fri 21-Jun-13 14:01:42

I admit that quiet a few pairs of summer trousers are a bit big on me so obviously I am losing weight but I haven't done a lot of exercise- I'm trying to do 2 miles, 3 times a week on the treadmill at 4mph which is a fast walk/lolloping run.

Now, abs of granite- there's an image! grin

Well done for the weight-loss, esp as we know it was more, just lots of fat turned to heavier muscle!

I am thinking of re-posing a photo of me from Easter 2 and a bit years ago, when I was 13 stone shock. It was taken in the Cairns Botanical Gardens so my own non-Cairns back garden will have to do as a stunt-double; but it was my fat picture. I'll wear the same kit and pose in the same way- and compare.

Hope it's a positive experience! grin

Erebus Fri 21-Jun-13 14:08:03

I am also heartened to see that if I can lose that extra 8 lbs, to 11 stone, my BMI will be 24.88! Top of 'normal' range!

gaggiagirl Sat 22-Jun-13 12:56:17

Oooh I best check my bmi I would bloody love to be normal.
Yes take the picture it sounds like a great idea.

gaggiagirl Sat 22-Jun-13 13:05:34

Bmi is 25.35 so if I lose another 2lb I'll be a normal human I'm still gonna stick with it til I get to 8st 10lb cos I really really want to be 8st something!!!!!!!!

amigababy Sun 23-Jun-13 05:33:51

I managed to get my only pair of posh jeans on last night to go out for a curry. Two weeks ago I don't think I'd have got them on. Mind you after the curry I don't think I can get them on again either grin

well done Erebus and Gaggia. Every pound counts. And clothing successes are great.

7 pounds to go here, 8 weeks to do it

Erebus Sun 23-Jun-13 07:30:53

Well done, amiga- it feels good, doesn't it?! I know each time I move onto a smaller belt hole that it's working!

HaPPy8 Sat 29-Jun-13 08:33:05

Well i have lost around 12 pounds and reached my target today.....which i am very happy about!.....so why when i look in the mirror do i still not feel great? Feel I need to keep going and maybe lose another 7lbs. Boo. Or i might try and maintain where I am for a month and then see how I feel.

Erebus Sat 29-Jun-13 09:29:41

Well done!

I wonder whether losing weight to our goal is such a slog that we don't feel elation when we get there- maybe we 'fear' that to keep the weight off we're going to have to restrict forever? Maybe keeping at this new weight for a month is the way to go so you can get used to it.

I confess that I look at my 11/8 body and don't think it looks any different to my 13/2 one I had 2 years ago!

Personally, I've stalled at 11/8. I upped my cal intake a bit having read stuff on the Fat2Fit board (elsewhere) that advocates finding your tdee and maybe just reducing by 300-400 cals, not 700 but of course that slows weight loss down- in my case, to zero... So I'm eating 300+ cals less than my energy needs a day but not losing weight [confusing] which is demoralising!

What's your BMI now? Could you lose 7lbs more? OOI?

Erebus Sat 29-Jun-13 09:31:19

So Day 28 and still 11/8 as I've been for 8 days now sad.

HaPPy8 Sat 29-Jun-13 14:45:28

How frustrating Erebus - I did have a period of about 10 days where i lost nothing but then suddenly dropped about 3 pounds quickly, i've no idea why though.

BMI is about 21 according to bbc calculator. I could lost up to another 11 pounds and still have a normal BMI but i don't think i would be able to maintain at the lowest end of normal. I think I will try and maintain for a couple of weeks at least and see how i feel then. That will allow me to eat a bit more normally and I can see how well I can stick to maintenance calories on MFP and how having maintenance calories affects me - will i end up gaining? (its an extra 450 calories a day to what im allowed now!)

gaggiagirl Sat 29-Jun-13 22:21:33

Hi HaPPY maintenance calories worries me too even the recommended daily allowance of 2000 calories for an adult female is just ker-azy! If I ate 2000 calories a day I would be huuuuuuuuge.
I've lost another pound this week so not far off my target but what the heck will i do when i reach my targetconfused

LittenTree Tue 02-Jul-13 11:31:13

Day 32- and still 11/8!

I am beginning to realise my TDEE (total daily energy expenditure, I think!) calculation must be waaay out. I thought it was about 2200, but I'm eating 1700 odd and not losing anything!

LittenTree Wed 03-Jul-13 12:04:11

Weighed this morning (am home from work with a back strain sad and am 11/7!

At last, some progress!

LittenTree Wed 03-Jul-13 14:49:23

Sorry, meant to say I name changed as I, oddly, couldn't log on as Erebus!

gaggiagirl Thu 11-Jul-13 18:44:59

Yay!!! A pound off is fab.
keep it up. my scales are doing mystery things again but DP said i looked super slim so that's fine by me. I'm still ccing like a trooper though.

Erebus Fri 12-Jul-13 09:58:38

Well, I've been all over the shop weight-wise over the past week! AF threatened an appearance- and I put on 5 lbs overnight. I was frankly, shocked. Esp as I'm 50, fgs. Where's my menopause??!

Anyway, today I was 11/9 so heading back in the right direction, at least but I am rather perturbed at a 5lb gain in one hit!

Glad someone is noticing your weight loss, gaggia, an well done with the CC'ing. I am tending to eat the same thing over and over again because I know its calorific value...

gaggiagirl Fri 12-Jul-13 21:32:11

Sticking to what you know is a good thing IMO
I ate a baguette today and feel rubbish about it boooooooo.

HaPPy8 Thu 08-Aug-13 08:09:52

Im struggling with maintenance. Eating around 1700 calories a day, exercise 3x per week, and have gained back 4 pounds. I need the discipline of being strict with calories I think. Anyone else struggle with this? Its very disheartening. How strange that a couple of pounds on the scales can make you feel bad for the whole day :/

gaggiagirl Wed 11-Sep-13 20:42:39

Well I did it! I'm 8st 11lb only one pound from my target.

To be honest I'm going to lose some more I don't feel 100% delighted, shame but maybe another 4lb and I'll be happy.

happy don't be disheartened! Its only 4lb stay focused and you will soon lose it, better now than later you can do this!

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