The New Festive Christmas PUDDLE,

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ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Thu 13-Dec-12 16:48:50

Here we are, a lovely shiny, new thread just in time for Xmas.

<puts up Xmas tree and decorations>

<hands round mulled wine and puts Christmas songs on the iPod>

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Thu 13-Dec-12 16:53:55

<sets out mince pies>
Lovely new thread, Shaky. Thank you.

DreamyDreaminOfAWhiteChristmas Thu 13-Dec-12 16:55:05

Thanks Shaky! grin

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Thu 13-Dec-12 17:14:07

Oh the weather outside is frightful, but the fire is so delightful!

Feeling festive now I have done the shopping.

Going to the gp tomorrow and then occ health on Monday.

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Thu 13-Dec-12 20:00:24

Good luck with that, Shaky. Let us know how it goes.

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Thu 13-Dec-12 20:02:02

Thanks shaky!

Thanks shaky, hope all goes well! Hope the christmas shopping went well!

Had my pre op bloods done today, I may now be panicking slightly.

So this is the thread where Jesus arrives...

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Thu 13-Dec-12 22:06:15

The Puddle puts its faith in Olivia...

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Thu 13-Dec-12 22:55:20


Hope we are all well?

I am busy being mad busy at work, knackered at home and all the while turning my living room into a very small version of a grotto grin (I have to stop with the tinsel and the lights now....possibly!)

I am also pootling around Mumsnet, sharing my incredibly wise words of wisdom (and rude Christmas song lyrics) with all who will listen shock

Day off tomorrow - I plan to walk the dog and then come home, pjs on and do nothing all day. I need to rest, it is a bit hectic at the moment and I have only myself to blame!

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Thu 13-Dec-12 22:56:01

Thanks Empress for the link

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Thu 13-Dec-12 22:57:15

ooo - State, are you nearly there then? Sorry, I missed the end of the last thread as am rubbish!

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Thu 13-Dec-12 23:18:02

Hey Brian! Welcome to the festive thread! You are looking WELL grin
I'm off to the GP tomorrow and occ health on Monday. Will keep you posted. I really appreciate all the advice you have given me thanks

I should have named this thread " the puddle where baby Jesus arrives and Olivia MNHQ sings for us"

Got almost all the Christmas shopping done. Ds has decided he wants "doctor Fings in a zootcase". I have ordered a teddy with doctor case etc from tesco to collect tomorrow. I also found a bob the builder toolbox to go with his work bench. It was only when I got it home I realised there is another fecking hammer in it, meh! If I open it first and take out the hammer, do you think he will notice? grin

Don't panic State I'll look after you, just imagine that the midwife who comes to theatre with you is ME! <strokes hair in nice, reassuring way>, you will be fine. You don't have to worry about spending hours in labour and ending up with a section anyway.

If this is your first PLANNED section you will find it much better, as your body will not be exhausted after labour so your recovery will be much better. A planned section is much more relaxed than an emergency. Plus you will be much more in control and aware of what is happening, also much more likely to be able to Breastfeeding quickly.

One tip, ask for help with the Breastfeeding, I know lots of midwives who presume that, if you have done it before, you will find it easy and not need help. Please, please speak up and ask for help if you need it, the midwives aren't psychic so tell them if you need assistance, don't be scared to ask for help.


Thanks shaky smile I wish it were you! First one was scary and very bossy, second one was mad, very funny but just mad, I was sure I was tripping out but no dp agreed! Ha!

Ds delivery wasn't planned as such but it was elcs after failed induction, so calm and organised but due to other complications he was whipped off to nicu and I had a tough time, dd was planned elcs eerily calm experience, me and dp were kind of 'is that it?' I've never been in labour. The section bit doesn't worry me as such its the first night after I hate not having dp with me and feeling so damn useless. I also hate leaving dd she's my girl and even though I know she will be fine I worry, also ds is not right I suspect tonsilitis on the horizon. Nothing major just the ole hormones interfering with my rational side!

BRIAN good to have you back! Yes 'jesus' is arriving on wednesday!!!!!

<Lays out mince pies, chocolate yule log and hot chocolates>

Oh and shaky they won't get rid of me until I'm happy the bfing is headed in the right direction, I may have done it for a year with dd but that was 4yrs ago, the newborn bit seems very alien to me now.

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Fri 14-Dec-12 08:12:14

Just a quick Hey! from me as I head off to pick up some bits and bobs and then go see The Hobbit with my husband. grin

Nursery seems nice. May put LT in there. Waiting until Monday to decide for sure.

::waves to all and dashes out the door::

Found you! grin

I'm wet and cold sad

Ah poor bonkey its chucking it down here too.

Ds has a sore throat, but judging from his stinking attitude and ability to throw a strop and shout his head off at me, dp and dd he is not that ill, as I told dp, I knew he'd be fine after calpol and breakfast, instead I have the ball of attitude at home.

Dds first nativity this morning, she was an elf, and bounced around a lot and sang a bit smile

Final christmas present arrived and my carseat clips so I can put the new seat on the buggy, I can't believe how much more relaxed I feel now that's all done.

DreamyDreaminOfAWhiteChristmas Fri 14-Dec-12 14:51:10

Phew, just had 2 of Ds1's friends and their little brothers round for lunch, to play and swap christmas presents. I need a stiff drink! I hadn't realised how tiny and un-child-friendly our house is until there were so many of them here at once. Ds is very good, and doesn't touch the fireplace, christmas tree, computer etc, but these 4 children have grabbed and chewed everything in reach. I need to get everything in order before Ds2 starts crawling, it's been an eye-opener!

We seriously need to move anyway. I love our house so much, and it was perfect for the 2 of us and the dog, but now we're 4 and the dog we're falling over each other all the time.

I hope your Ds is ok State, you don't need extra things to be worrying about.
How long do you have to stay in hospital for after a c-s? Do the midwives pick your baby up for you every time it needs feeding, and change nappies for you? If we go for number 3 it will probably have to be a planned c-s as Ds2 was shoulder dystocia, and the thought scares the crap out of me. I've never had an op before, and don't understand how you look after a newborn after major surgery.

Just been to ds's school christmas fair! shock Packed is a understatement!
I have a major thing about crowded places, no idea why i though it was a good idea.
Bought a pen and a notebook for ds and then it took me 20 mins to get out! shock
Then we get bloody drenched!
Plus side - petshop had a sale on so I bought the Gpigs a christmas pud house grin
I also bought one of those ready to make Fimo kits for kids - for me to play with! grin Its a sheep and a pig! Shaky You have a lot to answer for!

Dreamy I know the feeling. Our first flat was great for us two. One bed and a box room! Ds came along and suddenly i realised how small it was. Plus it was on the third floor. That was fun with a pram and baby hmm . I love my big ground floor flat grin
<hands wine>

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Fri 14-Dec-12 16:43:34

The Hobbit rocks. Can't wait for parts 2 and 3.

I hope all poorly people get better soon.

Dreamy you just sort of do! I have no idea about how much help you get with the baby in hospital as LT was whisked away to SCBU within hours of being born as he wasn't breathing properly. But I did a lot of his care when I was allowed while he was there. You just sort of cope.

Off to make a curry for tea...

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Fri 14-Dec-12 18:38:53

sorry for posting and running yesterday!

State - good luck! Wednesday, so you should be home Saturdayish? All settled and sorted by Christmas day (well, physically settled and sorted at least!)

Good luck with the breastfeeding, it is 9 years since I did it but I am hoping I will remember again as I am looking forward to it.

I was an elcs last time, this time I may have to be BUT hopefully the lovely Neurosurgeons at Walton Hospital will give my Consultant the go-ahead for me to do it naturally, albeit with a shortened 2nd stage and then use of forceps to actually deliver baby. I don't find out until February though and it is all dependent on me not getting Obstetric Cholestasis (sp?) this time round (had it awfully last time), cos if I do it will be that which determines ELCS instead of VBAC (they don't want to consider induction because of the chance of it ending in emerg CS) So my aneurysm clip may actually not be the determining factor in how I give birth, I swear if I do develop OC again (which they think I most likely will....grrr) I will be angry - which is stupid but I am irrational lol!

In other news, wrapped most of 'THE' presents today and that is a huge thing for me as I normally leave it til 1am Xmas day blush

It has also pissed down non stop today, miserable - so dark and dreary all day. At least the frost looked festive, rain is just meh!

<hands round Celebrations> that the dog found under the tree and 'unwrapped' but I got to them before she could eat them

Dreamy I used to be the mum that invited other people's children round, then end up on the wine to recover grin Next time I will be the person who does the visiting!

Tee good luck deciding about the nursery - DD did both CM and nursery, she has turned into a fine young lady most of the time wink

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Fri 14-Dec-12 18:46:39

how rude of me Shaky forgot to say hello back and <twirl> and <looks coy> at the compliment grin

Glad you are feeling (or seem to be, from your post) better. Keep your chin up!

snowtunesgirl Fri 14-Dec-12 20:29:47

I have been out in RL folks and it was good. grin

Last night I went to a panto and hobnobbed with Gok Wan. We have a very good mutual friend. And I had wine and everyfink.

Then today I did some roleplay work which I only found out about yesterday and unexpectedly managed to fit in a last minute facial. Heavenly.

All this was only made possible by my lovely DH looking after DD last night and she shock horror went to bed with NO breastmilk! shock She had a sip of normal milk and sat in her cot and played in the dark until she was tired and went to sleep!

And today was only made possible by my lovely CM who doesn't usually work on Fridays but did it for us anyway.

<Happy sigh> It MUST be Christmas. smile

State best of luck with it all. What's an ELCS like as I am considering having one myself if there is a next time?

Sheep!! grin

All sounds lovely Snowy smile

Glad your feeling better!

snow I am so jealous I actually adore Gok, he seems such a lovely guy.

brian I'm really hoping for friday release, dd was born a friday lunchtime by elcs and we got home sunday morning, but a 3rd elcs can be a bit rougher due to two previous scars so I'm told. I think saturday realistically.

ELCS is so calm and quiet, really its almost surreal wandering down to theatre and leaving what seems like minutes later, it isn't ofc, with a baby! With dd (ds was poorly so not a normal elcs circumstances) she was straight out and over the screen to me and dp, dp then cut the cord and brought her over to me wrapped up and we sat with her while they put me back together, he wheeled her in the cot to central delivery where we were given time alone and midwife went to get tea and biscuits, both of us were a bit 'is this it? Should they be leaving her with us?' We rang round family had loads of cuddles mw popped in and out helping with bfing and doing checks and I was on the ward by 2pm when ds and dmum came to visit. Up and out of bed the next morning for a shower, felt a bit tired and weak but no pain at all.

Wrt care for baby mws will do what ever you need them to, by the end of the day I could shuffle myself up in bed and sit up to get her from the crib, and tbh I held her most of the night, ds went to nicu at a few hrs old and I was given sedatives as I was in a huge state so I remember very little of his arrival. So I was extra sure to cherish every second with dd, but I will be more strict with myself this time as dd then refused to be put down for almost 4 years!! Also our hospital (when the big two were born) allowed one person in with you 9-8 with the exception of a small rest period around lunch so dp or my Mum were there. No idea what the rules are now.

Honestly hand on heart I found my elcs, even with ds, a positive experience I felt well looked after in control and honestly didn't find recovery too bad at all, i will say it may be placebo but I take arnica tablets afterwards. And genuinely would recommend it to anyone with reason to consider it smile it is ofc major surgery and there are risks but for me those risks are a better option than the risks of a vbac.

Sorry for the essay but hope that answers you a bit dreamy my cousin had shoulder distosia (sp), it was awful poor baby, they were told he'd possibly never regain control and if he did it would be very weak, he's 12 now and an exceptionally good rugby and cricket player, swims for the county and cycles everywhere, so they were wrong grin but my younger cousin was elcs to avoid the same happening.

I've just made the pram up and crib, finished packing the baby bag, and spare bag for the car, also stocked up the change table and basket for beside my bed! Dp has taken our double bed down and swapped for the kingsize (we used to have a spare room and never could decide what bed to keep) as its higher and easier for me to get out of post op --and has extra room for small sleep stealers ha-- just need to sort my case which I can do when my order from m&s arrives --oh so attractive post section undies and nursing bras deep joy--

5 days...

bonkey I bloody LOVE your pigs new house!!

Tis rather nifty grin

Dh gave me hmm <--- this look when I bought it home!

grin i think its excellent, im wondering if i can buy similar for ds' snails?

Yeah, good luck with that hmm grin

Maybe you could design one out of a yoghurt pot.....

Actually those snails are huge aren't they?

i was thinking it would be a great excuse to buy fimo grin

well atm they're about the size of 20-50ps but they can get to the size of your hand, unlikely as a 5yos pet, but they'll get bigger.

Me and my mum were strangely fascinated by them yesterday.

^ Did you see my sheep?

I caved and bought some today!

I have made a sheep and a pig tonight. I got more hmm looks from dh! Miserable bastard! i was impressed by my efforts! grin

They have snails in our pet shop, they were fecking hooge! I thought of you for a second before I got drawn to the pud! grin

What do they eat? Lettuce? <clueless>

ive just seen the sheep its brilliant, when im on my phone i often miss x posts if i reply and it takes me to a new page, on my laptop its all on one page hmm

they eat any fruit/veg left overs, bananas a favourite apparently, and they have to have cuttle fish. very cheap and easy to look after which is why ds is allowed them.

This will be your school run before long....


ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Sat 15-Dec-12 00:08:18

OMG Bonkey he is awesome! Although, it is technically cheating to make it from a kit grin. I do love fimo though, I think I've started something!

Maybe State could make the cake decorations from fimo, as a remember forever thing.

Boak! I hate snails, ever since I stood on a homeless one while letting the cat out when I was 12!

I went to see the GP today, he agreed that the best time to return to work would be in the new year. He gave me a sick note for 3 weeks and then I will go back to see him and get a fit to work note. It will have the conditions - reduced hours, phased return, amended duties (office based) for 2 weeks, no on call for at least 6 weeks. My GP is very lovely and understanding, I am very lucky to be able to talk to him so honestly.

OI! I was a Fimo virgin until tonight! Kit did a good job with starting me off! grin

Good news that you have a good GP! they are few and far between!
Make sure you get those conditions this time!
have a good relax over christmas! New year - new start! I'm sure you will be fine! smile

Sssh bonkey I'm already having nightmares about finding them in school trouser pockets after I've washed them!

Its really good to hear you have a good GP shaky new year then a new start following his instructions and hopefully things will go far better second time round --and if not the puddle will bitch slap your boss--

I'm getting some fimo when I appear from the baby fog and have the time to fiddle around with it.

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Sat 15-Dec-12 00:46:20

Love the sheep, Bonkey!

Shaky, your GP sounds luffly and yes, your boss will have the Puddle to answer to.

I've got multiple tabs open & the one for this page says 'The New Festive Christmas PUD' grin.

giraffesCantFlyLikeReindeer Sat 15-Dec-12 02:26:47

Hello thanks for pm with update to thread. grin Has everyone got their tree up?

monkey love the sheep! Looks very wallace and gromit style!

snow what are you doing that you are doing role play for? <nosey>

I took the girls I nanny for to a panto this eve and now they are having a sleep over at mine. Am in front room on sofa bed. Panto was very small scale church thing - muchos forgetting lines and random mishaps - but we all loved it - was endearing and heart warming. Yes I know <vom> And we got free caske at interval!

I got my hair done today - they cut a random mini side fringe in, I asked for a noaml side fringe! hmm. Pics on profile. Also got shellac done yesterday - first time, loved it! So feel all glammed up for Christmas now.

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Sat 15-Dec-12 11:03:00

Good morning everyone.

Thank you all for your support, I love you all.

Dp is on the twat bench for being a dick head. Honestly, for an intelligent man, he can be extremely stupid sometimes.

Me - "I'm going for a shower, ds you be good for daddy"
DP - "lets look on the laptop at YouTube"
Me - "that is a very bad idea. Don't let him near the computer --you idiot--"
Dp- "it's ok"
Me - "no, seriously, don't let him, it will get broken"

2 minutes later.
<ds pressing many buttons on computer>
<crashed computer>
Dp angry"I don't believe it! He's crashed it!"
Me - "we'll I did tell you not to let him near it, tis your own fault dickhead"
Dp - angry angry

For gods sake! The man is a knob sometimes.

The other day ds couldn't decide whether he would like red sauce or white sauce (mayonnaise) with his tea. So dp in his eternal wisdom asks him if he would like some PURPLE sauce! Provoked huge meltdown when of course, there is no purple fecking sauce, arse

That sounds like my kind of panto giraffes smile

Oh dear shaky my dp is like that doesn't listen and then exactly what I knew would happen, happens <recalls dds dislocated shoulder at the beach> arses at times.

<Budges shakyhusband up and plonks stateman next to him> just for being a ranty arsehole ok dp!

My dcs --are animals-- have mayo and ketchup together! Ds dips alternatly, dd mixes them together for pink dip.

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Sat 15-Dec-12 13:16:34

Giraffes, I think your fringe looks great. Although I can see how it could get annoying.

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Sat 15-Dec-12 15:37:48

Hi gang.

I was out in the general boards yesterday being all political about the CT shooting. Some people are just stupid, really.

Shaky sounds like my husband and then doesn't get it when I get annoyed at him. For the most part he's quite good with our son but there are some things I am better at!

giraffes HI! Sounds like fun.

snow very cool about Gok.

bonkey great sheep!

I have spent the morning wrapping presents. Only thing left is the huge box with LT's easel, which is hidden in the garage and I will wrap Christmas Eve once he's in bed. Oh and whatever I get for him from my dad, for which I have just received a cheque. Postage is ridiculous from the US.

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Sat 15-Dec-12 20:19:52

State if I have a toasted bacon sandwich, I HAVE to have brown sauce and mayo on opposite sides of the plate for alternate dips. I have just realised that (I cut the toaster into 2 triangles) the right corner only goes into the mayo and the left corner goes into the brown sauce.

<acknowledges weirdness>

For the first time EVER, EVER ds is in bed and asleep at 6.30! We went over to the pub at 4.30 but by 5.30 he started to misbehave. At 5.45 he was starting to lie down on the floor and put his blanket over his head. I saw he was tired and packed us off home. If we had stayed any longer we would have had full meltdown mode. We went straight home, pjs, cup of milk, story, bed and sleep. Fair play, he did go straight to sleep. It feels like 11 pm now! We are very lucky that the pub is very quiet and we have the whole place to ourselves, there was nobody else there, thankfully.

Weird sandwich eating traights/trates? (sp??) <Boggles> ?

If I have a piece of bread I must eat it from the bottom up!
If I have a sandwich the bottom half must be eaten first!
But I always always spread top down!

This is because the top crust is the best bit!

I actually shiver when dh shoves his sandwich in his gob top first shock .

Nice one on the sleeping boy shaky ! Mine is still shouting at me to turn the light on because "I PROMISE TO BE QUIET AND GOOD MUMMMMMMMYYYYYYY....." hmm

The mini states are sound, they go to bed at 6pm and are asleep by half past. I will say this has taken me four years of constant battles with dd to achieve and when dd settled ds started trying his luck, we've only had this good routine since october but I'm very pleased and relived as it was my ONE goal before dc3 arrived.

That said we've had a rotten few days with ds having melt downs, he has a sore throat but won't rest/stop shouting and screeching. He's eating fine and sleeping ok so I'm hoping the calpols keeping it from getting nasty --despite giving him mood swings-- and dd is saying no to everything.

Oh and your all weirdos about your sandwiches grin

--i always leave a small piece of crust it drives dp insane--

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Sat 15-Dec-12 21:12:52

I cut the TOAST into triangles, not the fecking toaster!

<pictures toaster cut into triangles grin >

How about TRAITS Bonkey

And the top crust is definitely best, especially if it is black.

State envy at 6 pm bedtime. I hope your ds feels better soon. NO is ds favourite word at the moment sad

I MIGHT just let dp off the twat bench now (but only because it is the festive season)

shaky I think school and nursery is to thank for the 6pm bedtime tbh, they get up about 7.30am though so they must need the sleep.

I'm considering letting dp off too, but only if he helps me think of something nice to do tomorrow as its the last ever weekend with just my big two ministates!!! <Wibble>

YY to black crust!

I have a dragon a-cooking! grin

Oooh state last weekend as a family of 4! <exciting>

Traits ! Cheers Shaky grin

Driving me mad that was!

It is so exciting but I also feel a bit overwhelmed, like on the verge of tears worrying about what I need to do by tuesday.

My mum her dh and dbro and sis are meant to be here christmas day and were yet to discuss food etc and time has run out!

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Sat 15-Dec-12 22:42:35

<boggles at sandwich habits>
<gets behind State and starts backrub*>

State It will all fall into place!

Chill ya boots wink

Decide on everything - give your mum a call and issue instructions! No one will argue with you!

Enjoy it all with your new bundle!

Ds was 2 1/2 weeks on his first xmas and it was just lovely! Hectic because he wasn't meant to arrive til Jan 6th but just lovely! smile

As much as I adore my Mum, there's a reason she's coming to us meaning dp has to go get them, rather than us to them, she's not very organised and tends to flap, dp otoh can run christmas day seamlessly, and cooks the most amazing roast so I have no worries there, I just feel like I've forgotten something important! And feel a bit helpless and useless that ill be pretty much unable to be involved.

I think I've wrote a list and organised myself...

Can't think what to do with the dcs tomorrow as I don't want to travel far and they don't want to be outside in this rotten weather, may just take them to mcds, that's a huge treat in their eyes.

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Sun 16-Dec-12 08:02:39

Don't worry about Christmas, State. Go have your baby. Let others worry about Christmas.

Mcds sounds like a huge treat to me, too. grin

Two days in a row LT has slept until 7! ::faints:: I even slept until 830 yesterday and 6 today. Must be the holiday air.

I could murder a bacon sandwich this morning. Too bad we have no bacon...

Same here tee however we also lack bacon!

Well the ministates let us lie in, however in the half hour before we got up me and dp asked them to pop away any toys they got out so instead they trashed their rooms, so that lie in, not really worth it. And they're both being shouty and rude so mcds may not be happening unless they sort the attitude out!

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Sun 16-Dec-12 12:13:17

My lovely husband has brought me bacon! Woukdnt you like some state?

It took that long to tidy the dcs chaos and deal with 40,000 tantrums about who did what and why they wouldn't tidy, get washed and dressed we didn't get breakfast until 11.30!

I'm going to get bacon and nice rolls or bread for a late lunch I think, I need it.

How to impress a 4 and 5yo, ask them what pizza they'd like for dinner and order in, they were amazed that someone cooked it and brought it to our door!

And then let them eat in front of a christmas film.

Only 3 sleeps until baby state/jesus arrives!!!!!!!

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Sun 16-Dec-12 17:49:19

Why are there such utter fuckwits on this site?


BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Sun 16-Dec-12 18:15:31

I rephrase.

such *a few

There are actually many more lovely people - even more regular people and although I don't always share the views of those who post their opinions I can respect them.

Fuckwits, nah - they just make me update my list of shit and then employ my own personal 'hide poster' function ie ignore the twunts

rant over.

Hope you are all having a lovely Sunday <hands out reduced price Mr Kipling Viennese Whirls>

What's up brian?

Fuckwits on mumsnet at this time of year always happens. Hope no ones upset you <looks menacing>

I am so ready to have this baby now, slept pretty well last night, and kids let us sleep until 9.30 so why did I just fall asleep on the sofa??

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Sun 16-Dec-12 19:40:02

Making the most of sleep while you can State!

Fuckwits in RL too! angry

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Sun 16-Dec-12 19:56:21

Which fuckwits in particular?

What's up bonkey

<Sharpens pitch forks>

Fucking customer taking the piss! Excuse the swearing but I am so close to fucking bastarding swearing at the twat!

She claims some charms have fallen off a bracelet. Now I check and double check and test every bloody charm/bracelet/item etc before it goes out.

One off - Fair enough - tis unlucky but possible!

Two off - Very unlucky still vaguely possible!

FIVE - You are taking the actual piss! angry

I have offered a refund on return of the item and all bits that have 'fallen off' hmm but return postage is at her cost (read my notes stupid bitch its all there) , and now she is saying she doesn't want to fork out for £1.85 to send it back but still wants a refund hmm hmm hmm


Brian What fuckwits are fucking you off? grin

Should say 5 off in less than a week hmm hmm hmm <---- x 500

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Sun 16-Dec-12 20:30:32

I'm calm now

I commented on a thread that was very close to home, but I hadn't aired my views either on here (for fear of being flamed) or in real life (for fear of my friends and family thinking I was a hideous cow) Then somebody posts virtually my exact 'thing'.

I read the thread and whaddyaknow......that amazing thing where 1 or 2 posters start pulling the OP apart to voice their own opinion, belittle and eventually push the OP from the thread. So I, bravely and against my better judgement, say 'actually I felt the same way'.

Then my example gets replied to and used as an example of why the protagonists are correct and the OP is wrong, when I was actually saying the OP and I are exactly the same and it is nice to know we aren't alone in what we thought.

I feel sorry for the OP as I understood what she was saying, basically that she is worried about having a girl (having found out at her scan) as she has a DS and doesn't want the girl to turn into a pink-loving princess (paraphrasing). As the mother of a pink-loving princess, if anybody was going to be offended it would have been me - but there was no offence to take. Or rather, the OP was made out to be a girl-hater. Yet I, said the same but about having a boy, but was not pulled up and was basically stereotyping in the same way the OP was (not through boy-hate but through fear of the unknown)

I have since hidden the thread.

Bonkey this situation is not about what is said but how you handle it. Give the daft bint her postage, get her out of your hair and move on. How many bracelets etc have you sold? How much negative feedback have you had? If she is left unhappy she could leave a negative comment on your page and you dont want that - one bad apple etc. I hate working in Customer Service, I deal with such things daily, only difference is I do it with body armour/riot gear and not lovely sparkly stuff grin

I glanced at that thread earlier .

Brian Shhhh....but if anyone leaves me bad comments I can just delete and ban if the wish takes me. I haven't had any yet but was a tad shock when I discovered I could in fact delete comments (good/bad/ugly) off my Ratings hmm bit of a fix if you ask me! Ratings should be like Ebay where your stuck with what your given!

I would have refunded her her postage anyway- but I am fucked if I am refunding something she hasn't done yet <tight arsed bitch>

I am calm now - and she hasn't got back to me yet! hmm

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Sun 16-Dec-12 20:43:53

oh in that case give her whats coming to her grin <evil>


bonkey she sounds a sodding twatbag!

brian I nearly joined that thread but decided I'm too hormonal atm, I was actually devestated when I discovered pfb was a ds, but now I'd go back and do it all again, I really wanted a girl but that little boy totally stole my heart and honestly the first year of his life was the happiest I've ever been, but the feelings I had when pregnant were awful, people who've not experienced it don't get it. Also wrt girly girls, my 4yo asked for bath bombs today, how the actual fuck does she know what one is? Its not from me ha!

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Sun 16-Dec-12 20:57:44

state I think that it is the worst thing you can admit to isn't it, but it seems more common. I said on that thread and I will state here, I love my baby so much and I am now thrilled and excited. At the time I found out, I was shocked and then distraught at feeling shocked IYSWIM that it is a boy. I look at friend's boy toddlers and think 'oh my god' as they are all really hyper. DD must have been the same, but it is 7+ years ago and I can't remember gin numbed the memory

Of course there's a rational explanation BUT it isn't rational, it's hormone based or something equally messed up!

If I'm honest, I look at babies in general and get a sense of utter dread - whereas before getting pg I banged on and on about how broody I was and how much I loved babies! Easy to say that when you don't have the impending birth/sleepless nights/sore nipples looming round the corner grin

There are other times (more frequently than the dread) that I look at babies and think how lucky I am and get excited beyond belief. It is one extreme to the other!

Anywho...I need food! Mince pies are looking like a winner...mmmmmm!

Same here, I was cooing over twins in sainsburys today, then a few minutes later saw another newborn screaming, my blood actually ran cold realising the harsh reality!

Oh and my boy toddler, I would PAY to get another one like that he was an absolute dream, the girl otoh, there are simply NO words! Sure now he's 5 and thinks he's cool he gets a bit lairy but in general all the boys in our family are more laid back.

I was meant to be in bed a hour ago hmm

Got drawn in by Russell Crowe in a skirt grin

Well we got half way through wrapping all the christmas presents and ran out of wrap, bugger.

Also starting christmas shopping in june and hiding stuff when pregnant results in more than planned blush although it has all been facebook sale pages/sales/ebay/amazon bargains etc so I've spent less than ever on them, dp went from rather stern faced and snappy to mildly impressed as he added up.

And then remembered we've got them bikes in the garage! Granted we were given ds' as someone we knows ds got two so she gave us one and said use it as a gift, and only paid £12 for dds as when we got there they were out and then none of us had the right change so seller said all I need is cash for a helmet, checked argos and called it £12 well chuffed with that. I refuse to buy new bikes as they've already grown out of two previously!

Did I say me and my Mum went to get ds' snails last week? Well we were given 5, only wanted 3 but due to extreme cold the pet shop were concerned not all would make it, well we have 4 confirmed alive and they're fascinating, my Mum went from hating them to being obsessed and sending me photos, the highlight of christmas for me will be ds choosing names grin

Its been a long time since I've looked forward to christmas this much!

Its going to be a good christmas for the mini states! I do have a couple of things for baby state but that's only because ds and dd would question why santa hadn't brought anything, and we needed a bouncy chair anyway so figured that can be from me and dp, its only a few days to wait after getting home.

bonkey how's your elf getting on? We introduced ours a bit late and I expected ds to think it was a load of rubbish but they love it, have to say I'm being lazy and simply hiding him in new places not making him do stuff but its making the mainly dd behave better. They've named him baby elfie (like alfie mummy but he's an elf, get it?) Ha! He'll leave us after delivering the christmas eve hamper I think.

grin Our elf was orginally 'Alfie' because I thought it was clever wink - now he's Elfie! hmm

Our elf is a bugger. He went from being pretty good (before bday) to a little shit! He has played the wii, thrown pants all over the floor, made marshmallow snowmen, drank mummys wine angry . grin Last night he popped all ds's bday balloons (because they were pissing me off and if I did it then ds would be very sad) . We found him surrounded by deflated rubber.....ds was grin I was very smug! wink
Tonight is toilet roll night......
Our elf goes with Santa after the gift drop so he can help with the rest of the night.

I haven't even started wrapping yet. I fear it will be a xmas eve night job!

I have great plans for 'elfie' next year but this year I just couldn't be arsed seriously i won't lie.

I'm stupidly awake for this hour and its annoying me I have a lot to do, and I've realised to shower and get to hospital on time wednesday ill have to get up at 5/5.30 talk about start newborn stage on empty!

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Mon 17-Dec-12 01:50:21

I'm up too, couldn't sleep so catching up on stuff.

5/5.30???? Could you get away with showering the night before, at least?

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Mon 17-Dec-12 07:31:32

::places husband on Twat Bench::

3 am he woke me up going to the loo. Okay, these things happen. But then he started slurping his glass of water sluuuurrrrp sluuurrrrp sluuurrrp. Then he fell back to sleep and started snoring (at this point I'm awake and reading my phone) then he wakes up again sluuurrrp sluuurrrp sluuuurrrpp. Then he decides to go sleep in our spare room. TOO LATE!

Those patio pavers are looking better and better all the time.

Of course he has slightly redeemed himself as he's decided he's not up for work, due to a small sniffle and one bad nights sleep, but can go finish his Christmas shopping and then pick up LT on his way home.

Normally I would empress but as I'm going in for an op I want to be as clean and fresh as possible, plus I have bastard hair which looks greasy really quickly and that just makes me feel yuck.

I have to be checked in on the ward by 7am, its a 30min drive ish over... Atleast I don't have to factor in time for breakfast, that just means ill be feeling awful, joy!

Bad mrtee but atleast he can do the shopping and fetch LT!

Well I'm now going with dp to have his toe dealt with... Because that's what we should be doing today, we've nothing else we need to be doing at all. <Glares>

Mcdonalds breakfast anyone?

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Mon 17-Dec-12 10:01:47

We have got an elf too grin
His name is Edgar, he's not very naughty though, he just gets off the shelf and hides in different places.
He might be naughty tonight though!

I'm going to my occupational health appointment this afternoon.

Thanks for breakfast State, hope Stateman gets his toe sorted ok.

Good luck shaky and for Stateman --which gives me visions of superman type costumes grin

I'm closing shop today - will be glad of a break! The beads are taking over! Maybe I may be able to get xmas sorted - finally!

I have a craving for a fried egg sandwich ....

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Mon 17-Dec-12 10:29:27

Good luck Shaky and the States.

I've started the countdown going on the song thread. I think the deadline should be tomorrow evening.

I was just about to say empress they only have one whole day left --looks terrified--

Well I'm officially organised, almost, just need to pack my case and buy batteries for a few bits x

<Puts dp on the twat bench>

All feel free to poke him in the eye every time you pass he is in an utterly vile mood for no good reason what so ever slamming around the house shouting and generally being a total arsehole, I've no fucking time for him right now and I'm especially angry as I've spent half the day upset as new hospital visiting times means he'll miss out on time with the baby, well good, he's vile. sad

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Mon 17-Dec-12 17:42:47

<hugs State>

I bet he won't be stropping once your gorgeous baby's born. Not long now....

I hope not because his strops and my new baby hormones will not be a pleasant mix, I hate these stupid fucking pain killers he's on, every few weeks we get these unecessary/pointless/no cause for temper tantrums.

He carrys on much longer I'm stamping on his toe, or is that unreasonable.

I think I would kill someone for a KFC right now!
My appetite seems to be back and wanting fatty southern fried chicken hmm

State A toe stamp is fine - a 'Oops Iv'e dropped the iron on your foot...' then yes YABU grin

Hmmmm, I could go for a kfc wrap...

I think he'd prefer the iron on his good toe than my foot on the one the dr cut up today..."I need to keep it elevated" ill fecking elevate you in a minute stateman, when my foot kicks you up the arse!

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Mon 17-Dec-12 20:26:49

<strolls into Puddle brandishing a DP whacker>


[scary psycho emoticon]

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Mon 17-Dec-12 20:43:28

<edges warily round Brian>

So DD casually mentions a couple of hours ago that she needs to wear 'something Christmassy' on Thursday. After about half an hour's interrrogation it becomes clear that this means red and white party clothes and a Santa hat. And so we are waiting outside the changing rooms at H&M listening to crap music. Grrrrr.

On the good side, Olivia says not to worry, she hasn't forgotten.

DreamyDreaminOfAWhiteChristmas Mon 17-Dec-12 20:55:39

Not long now State! I'm so excited for you! Another snuggly puddle baby. smile The visiting hours are ridiculous, are they rigidly enforced for Dp's? Maybe you could sweet talk them into letting Dp in earlier/later. You could make them a cake as a bribe!

I have wrapped and packed all the children's and Dh's presents ready to take to my parents. Only problem is they won't all fit in the car as well as our clothes, car seats and dog. Fortunately BIL and his wife have room (SIL's parents live in the same village as my parents and they're visiting them for christmas - SIL is my childhood friend, she met Dh's brother at our wedding and now they're married) so they're transporting them for us. Phew! We were starting to think we'd have to take both cars!

I'm going horse riding soon, at a heavy horse centre. I haven't ridden in over a year and I decide to get on an 18hh beast! Can't wait!

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Mon 17-Dec-12 20:56:56

I'm ok - honest <twitch>

I am Spotifying Chicago (musical) and Cabaret - I can feel the stress leaving me.

Totally unjustified stress, bloody hate hormones (is the only possible explanation).

I have - no man to get stressed about, have done ALL my Christmas present buying and wrapping and my house is mostly clean (which is amazing). DD is behaving herself and we have lots to look forward to - including her birthday on Sunday (which I can't actually afford the party but mum has offered to loan me half the money, it isn't expensive as such but I have spent all spare cash and had nothing left over! doh!) I have also finished work until 7th Jan.

Seriously, I need to get a grip!

envy Dreamy been ages since Iv'e ridden a proper horse! Lovely story abotu your sil and dh!

Brian T'is all allowed, your preggers!

I have cheesy chips and the big bang theory !

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Mon 17-Dec-12 21:37:08

Today I have discovered LoveFilm On Demand and Grey's Anatomy.

How do I replace my husband with Patrick Demspey?

{{{group hug}}}

::THWACK to all annoying other halves::

Mine is currently off the bench because he picked LT up from school and carried home the last of LT's Christmas presents. Huge Disney bag but luckily, being 3, LT bought the story that it was food. grin

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Mon 17-Dec-12 22:02:43

Gratuitous pic of the cake I will make in the image of Jeffrey Dean Morgan grasps at straws

aaaaahhhh! Another Grey's convert - are you watching from the very beginning or are you on the latest series?

Patrick Dempsey, as much as he is attractive, is not a patch on.....Jeffrey Dean Morgan.

The Denny storyline, without a doubt, is ridiculous but my god, I have never cried so much.

I only discovered Grey's in October, I am currently on Season 5. I did as many free trials as I could before stupidly committing to Blockbuster online (forgot to cancel in time and am now stuck with them!) It is worth it though, my life would be duller without Mc Dreamy, Mc Steamy and co!

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Mon 17-Dec-12 22:03:01

Gratuitous pic of the cake I will make in the image of Jeffrey Dean Morgan grasps at straws

aaaaahhhh! Another Grey's convert - are you watching from the very beginning or are you on the latest series?

Patrick Dempsey, as much as he is attractive, is not a patch on.....Jeffrey Dean Morgan.

The Denny storyline, without a doubt, is ridiculous but my god, I have never cried so much.

I only discovered Grey's in October, I am currently on Season 5. I did as many free trials as I could before stupidly committing to Blockbuster online (forgot to cancel in time and am now stuck with them!) It is worth it though, my life would be duller without Mc Dreamy, Mc Steamy and co!

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Mon 17-Dec-12 22:04:24

Gratuitous pic of the cake I will make in the image of Jeffrey Dean Morgan grasps at straws

aaaaahhhh! Another Grey's convert - are you watching from the very beginning or are you on the latest series?

Patrick Dempsey, as much as he is attractive, is not a patch on.....Jeffrey Dean Morgan.

The Denny storyline, without a doubt, is ridiculous but my god, I have never cried so much.

I only discovered Grey's in October, I am currently on Season 5. I did as many free trials as I could before stupidly committing to Blockbuster online (forgot to cancel in time and am now stuck with them!) It is worth it though, my life would be duller without Mc Dreamy, Mc Steamy and co!

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Mon 17-Dec-12 22:05:20

ffs - apologies for multiple posts, it told me there was an error and to try again <retrieves DP whacking stick and threatens MN gremlins>

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Mon 17-Dec-12 22:12:32

Starting on series 1. No spoilers please!

I am in a vile mood brian they should stick hormonal pregnant women on the front line, no violence just alot of ranting, im sure someone would surrender.

Dp still a twat, my Mums annoyed me too, when i had ds, nearly SIX years ago, oh and he was my first and in nicu I had dp stay with me at the hospital until he was asked to leave every day, my Mum patronisingly says to me today i cant do that this time, well duh mother, believe it or not i DO remember i have two children to care for wether its directly or not, im stewing about it and the more i think about it the angrier i feel, not blowing my own trumpet but my dcs come first in fecking everything i do!!

dreamy my dd would be so jealous she's fascinated by horses, I've not rode since i was about 6, my Mums friend fell off and was badly hurt so she stopped me going.

empress tell her she has.... <counts> roughly 33hrs until i go into hospital.

Oh and another reason im angry i thought i was all organised and id only forgotten the most vital part of my hospital bag, sodding maternity pads, im clearly in deial about the least glamorous part of motherhood. And to add to my chaotic day tomorrow twattystateman has to go have his dresings on his toe changed, the drs is near my Mums, 30 mins away, where we are dropping the dcs after ds finishes school and will stay round there for a while but NO he books it for the morning <glares>

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Mon 17-Dec-12 22:24:18

No spoilers at all don't worry - it is a fab show, enjoy!

State breathe deeply and, I can't help, I'm no use <offers whacking stick>

My mum doesn't want me to have a VBAC as is worried at the risks, but will happily let me have a CSection - you know, major abdominal surgery, because it will be planned. She is getting quite huffy about the VBAC and has used the line "there's not only yourself to think about this time round" I'm not bothering to take my daughter into account angry The main reason I want a VBAC is so I am back on my feet quicker than with a C-Section. Problem is, mum is my birthing partner - a task she is eager to take, if it's a C-Section. If I get the go-ahead for a VBAC, what the hell do I do? Go it alone? I can't have her there all worried about what might happen and stressing. I need support ffs!

Now is not the right time to broach the subject for various reasons, but come the new year i will have to sit down and discuss the situation and make her understand that if she can't accept me wanting a VBAC, then she can't come in with me - I need support not stress!

I have a box of chocs I won at my Work Christmas raffle <offers a fudge> wink

DreamyDreaminOfAWhiteChristmas Mon 17-Dec-12 22:35:47

Oh I have maternity pads left over State. If you were closer I'd bring them round for you.

And Brian, if you were closer I'd happily be your VBAC partner!

grin - its reminded me of when I had to send dh out to shop for my hospital bag (after ds was born hmm) , I was cracking up at the thought of him at the checkouts buying breast and maternity pads! grin

Ah the joys of other peoples opinions, obviously i don't know your history as such but I can't see why a VBAC would be a bad idea, your dd is older so your scars had a long time to heal and if your in the right mindset for a vbac theres no reason it couldnt be a fantastic experience, i was encouraged to take a csection with dd as I'd only had ds 16mnths previously when she was born, and a vbac would have meant heavy monitoring and no water birth/being active which i wanted and this time i have the two previous scars, however VBAC was still an option, but for me the risks of VBAC are that fraction to high, thats ME personally not any other pregnant after a csection. Does any of that make sense or am i rambling. Also i get extremely anxious and stressed at the unknown and mentally a csection is just the best option for me as its what i know, im struggling enough not knowing if this babys a boy or girl, i'd loose the plot not knowing when it would arrive!

<takes fudge> thank you.

I'm watching twilight-eclipse, hoping it will calm the rage.

I'm freaking ouut bad something bad will happen between now and dc3 arriving totally irrational but my brother was stillborn just 2yrs ago so i cant help but have it in my head.

oh god bonkey i don't think i could ask dp to, he would he's mr unphased by stuff like that i just have ishooos i think ha!

State I had too.
Ds was born at 4.42am and I had nothing because the mite came two days before I was due to pack my bag and do shopping , didn't have time to have ishoos grin

I did chuckle at the thought of him doing it though....<mean>

Brian I hope all goes well for you!

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Mon 17-Dec-12 22:53:00

Dreamy thank you <snuggles> grin

State I had a brain aneurysm aged 16, was told I'd never be able to give birth naturally as it was the unknown and no medical professionals would be willing to see what would happen with the pressure on my brain. Same advice aged 25 having DD. 9 Years on, advice has changed and if you had your aneurysm 'clipped' there is no evidence of vaginal delivery causing harm, when assistance is given and mother is monitored closely (assistance being shortened 2nd stage labour - no more than half an hour pushing, then use of forceps)

I understand my mum's pov, i really do....but I also know that there is no way on earth the Consultant, Registrar and the Neurolical team would let me have the VBAC if they though I was at risk - they wouldn't do it for the fun of it.

I have a 9 year old, I want to be back on my feet asap after the birth, not dependent on everyone else (this has been my bugbear recently, my loss of independence, stupid but true!)

The Neuro team have yet to say yes, so they may actually insist on CSection, in which case I will happily go along with it as I know what happens and DD was a very positive experience.

I just need my mum to stop offering an opinion based on her fears (which I DO understand, I am her child, I get that!) and realise I am a grown woman who is taking medical advice and not just making a rash decision because I feel like being awkward! rarrrr.

As for your fears - totally normal, I remember having my date confirmed (23rd Dec) and the run up to that, the last week, I was convinced something awful was going to happen. It didn't, of course, but I coudlnt shake the feeling. with your family history, it is even more normal for you to feel a bit vulnerable ((hugs))


bonkey i believe that is the reason self service checkouts were invented, men buying pads and tampons grin

brian i completely understand your pov and as you say if the professionals allow you to go ahead with a VBAC it must be safe, if they had one tiny fraction of doubt you'd be 'encouraged' as they put it to me 'we'd really encourage a section state...'
I really hope you can talk your Mum round, when you put it all the way you have here i'd hope she'd understand, however as mums ourselves its hard not to get her opinion.

I do however completely understand your feelings re. lack of independance, im far more snappy and irritable because i cant do things for myself, stupid things like i dropped my sock this morning, simply putting them on is hard enough work, if it wasnt the fact that dp is signed off for some time and despite his current twat status is actually great around the house and taking over full care of dcs id have pushed for a vbac, but that said my recovery with dd was really quick, and pain free.

DreamyDreaminOfAWhiteChristmas Mon 17-Dec-12 23:09:33

<hugs> State. It's natural to be worried, keep your mind occupied by posting random shit here. grin

Brian, I can completely understand why your mum is so worried. I think I would be too in her position, but if the professionals say it's ok then it really must be - they wouldn't risk it otherwise. I'm sure your mum will be a supportive birth partner for you, even if she still doesn't agree.

Bonkey, well done to your Dh! Mine would have been on the phone every 5 mins asking what colour the box should be, how many do I want, what size, is this a good deal, etc! He did actually have to go out and buy me an enormous bra after I had Ds1, and I was stuck in hospital with massively engorged breasts. I had no nursing bras and none of my normal bras fit any more. He did a good job, considering we had no idea what size I would be!

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Mon 17-Dec-12 23:16:10

Every time I get a bit grrr about it, I imagine what I would do if it was my DD and I was watching her make a medical decision that I deemed risky. I really do get it, but at the same time - I ain't silly. A good chat once xmas is out of the way, but before we go to see the consultant in Feb to get the yay or nay to VBAC (the last thing I want is to have the discussion after getting the go ahead, when tensions could be high)

I am stubborn and gobby and hot-headed. I am being quite good with keeping my grrr ness to myself grin

Right, off to bed, DD is starring in the Junior Christmas production tomorrow and Weds, I've tickets for tomorrow and my parents go on weds. I heard DD singing in the bath earlier and was moved to tears, it was so lovely!

I shall report back, in full non-stealth boast mode tomorrow grin

Good night all.

oh dear dreamy thats has just given me a right laugh, i've banned dp from underwear shopping with me as its the only time he acts like a stupid 20 something, lots of hands up as though cupping boobs saying this looks the right size, imagine that in mothercare hmm

i should seriously go to bed i wasnt asleep until gone 3am last night and then was up at 7.30, have to be up at 7 tomorrow too, but then hopefully ill be shattered tomorrow night and fall asleep early and stay asleep.

Night brian enjoy the show grin

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Mon 17-Dec-12 23:23:33

I've said you have to have seen it before you go to bed on Tuesday, State.

Can't wait to hear about it, Brian.

Your really determined with this aren't you empress grin if they pull it off you'll be the one to tell our family ha!

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Tue 18-Dec-12 00:23:35


It's a game.

If Olivia pulls it off and then finds that her taps are running gin instead of water that will be interesting but no, I just think it's fun. And that you're going to have a gorgeous DC with the perfect name.

It would be great to have anyone at HQ join in grin

I can't sleep, I am totally wide awake!!

Ds ear ache is back poor thing and he looks so sad, have given him calpol and he's settled again, looks like ill be trying to fit drs in tomorrow for him too.

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Tue 18-Dec-12 08:01:32

ACK! LT has woken with a chesty cough and a sore throat. Off to GP...

I am so bloody stressed out I could cry, trying to get all organised and yet again dps messed it up, his Dr now wants to see him Christmas fucking eve, he thinks this is reasonable, and he won't be long (its an hour round trip dumb arse), I however feel the urge to wok him upside the face. I just feel like a huge inconvienience to him <hormonal> and dd is really grumpy and just keeps screaming and moaning and hitting me.

<Hides in the puddle>

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Tue 18-Dec-12 11:27:13

Hope he feels better soon, Tee.

<wraps State in soft warm duvet>
<proffers glass of iced water and big piece of chocolate cheesecake>

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Tue 18-Dec-12 11:39:55

::locks State's not so dear other half to the twat bench::

I hope he enjoys driving himself to the doctor, since you'll be much too busy with the new baby.

LT's throat is a bit red and his lungs a bit gunky so I'm to keep an eye and if he seems much worse, fill the script she gave me. She was fantastic with him, actually getting him to talk, which he usually doesn't do with people he doesn't know well! I may request her in the future when it's not an urgent matter.

Tee I don't drive, and even if I could I wouldn't be a few days after surgery, so I hope his fecking toe hurts! He's so together usually and organised and calms me down, but right now he seems oblivious to everything! I've told him there's NO WAY he is leaving me with all 3 dc so soon so he'd better organise someone to watch dd or take her with him (no favouritism but ds is totally independant wrt toilet/getting a drink etc she isn't yet)

My mum brought me cookies and millionaires shortbread so that may calm the rage/stress/hormones. <Offers round>

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Tue 18-Dec-12 12:33:20

Just be careful he doesn't suggest his mother, State!

OliviaPeaceOnMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 18-Dec-12 13:03:26
TeeElfOnTeeShelf Tue 18-Dec-12 13:07:46

She did it!!!!

Tee he isn't suicidal, I think I have it in me to kill him today!

<Runs off to click link>

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Tue 18-Dec-12 16:00:29

Yay! We got the song! Fab

State Don't forget your phone charger for your hospital bag

I went to occ health yesterday and the doctor was really good. He says my original plan was very reasonable and it should have been followed. He is going to write to bitch boss with his recommendations. I just have to deal with bitch boss next. She wants a meeting on 28th and I will arrange for my union rep to come with me.

The man came to do our blinds yesterday, the conservatory is now complete grin

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Tue 18-Dec-12 16:05:34

Love it!!!!

That's great, Shaky.

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Tue 18-Dec-12 18:17:57

Good luck for tomorrow, State xxxxxxxx

yay, we got the song!! grin

Great news Shaky !!

How you doing State ?

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Tue 18-Dec-12 20:11:33

Good luck tomorrow State!!!!

That song is awesome!

Well my favourite chinese was shut, the next best also shut, small pregnant tantrum later and I'm over it annoying end to a fecking awful day!

Had a very difficult day with dd, really the worst she has ever behaved! But she calmed down enough to be sweet before I left her with my Mum, so now I feel bad for being cross with her, but she laid on the floor 5 times screaming in the time it took me to grab a pack of batteries in £land, I gave up gave dp my purse and told her we were leaving and why, she got very angry as she wanted sweets, and was very vocal about this, someone decided to try and talk to dd as I was leaving the shop she attempted to stop us several times despite it being clear to everyone what I was doing, I ended up snapping, "I'm dealing with her thank you" now feel totally shitty but why WHY do strangers think they're helping a fecking rotten situation that is a public tantrum by interfering, dd doesn't like strangers at the best of times and from past experience had this lady spoken to her I'd have been dealing with a worse situation.

Didn't really want to leave her or ds at my Mums ----not something I usually struggle with after a day like today----feeling a bit emotional and in all honesty fecking scared!

Anyway enough moaning from me <offers round chocolate>

DreamyDreaminOfAWhiteChristmas Tue 18-Dec-12 21:32:02

<Hugs> State. We'll be with you all the way. Good luck for tomorrow. smile Anyway, you're giving birth to the new messiah. What could possibly go wrong? grin

Love the song! Thanks Olivia!

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Tue 18-Dec-12 21:48:42

Good luck for tomorrow State I'll be thinking of you xxxxxxxx

Thank you dreamy and shaky

Will check in as soon as I can tomorrow, feeling so anxious just want it over and done with now!

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Tue 18-Dec-12 22:29:50

Good luck State xxxx

I'm feeling very shite and angry and sad,all for no good reason. I hope its hormones, I can't snap out of it, has been 2 days and I am not a happy bunny right now.

DD play was great, she is a natural dramA wise, not very confident singing on stage though which is a shame as she is very good in the bathroom!

Im off to bed, night all!

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Tue 18-Dec-12 22:47:46

Goodnight Brian sleep well

State I hope you have a good rest tonight MWAH!

OliviaPeaceOnMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 18-Dec-12 22:48:20

NB masses of luck State, can someone please alert HQ to the arrival of baby Jesus by reporting the announcement when it comes?? think there's too much light pollution in Kentish Town for us to see the star grin

DreamyDreaminOfAWhiteChristmas Tue 18-Dec-12 22:49:10

Night Brian!

I need to block ebay from my laptop I think… Just bought Ds2 a harrods teddy that has his name. Ds1 already has his namesake teddy that we bought from Harrods last year, but they don't seem to do many any more, so thought I'd just have a peek on ebay. I couldn't resist!

DreamyDreaminOfAWhiteChristmas Tue 18-Dec-12 22:53:45

A choir of angels will herald his/her coming Olivia. At least, that's what we'll think we sound like. In actual fact we'll just sound like a load of donkeys drunk on gin and let loose at the karaoke.

<hums "When a child is born" as a warm up>

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Wed 19-Dec-12 00:02:26

Welcome to the Puddle, Olivia grin

You'll know when you turn on your taps & gin comes pouring out.

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Wed 19-Dec-12 00:18:39

Welcome Olivia, merry Xmas to you.

Look how nice it is here, no buns flying or anything. Feel free to come here to hide any time Friday you like.

Because you are our favourite we'll even let you try the hot tub.

I haven't been norty at all <innocent face>

Thank you for the song, it was brill grin

Morning all!

I feel sick with nerves! I've done this twice before, I need to man up! Can't believe this is the last morning ill ever wake up feeling dc3 wriggle <gets teary> any way, ill hopefully be back later to let you know it all went! Save some cake and the best pillows for me grin

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Wed 19-Dec-12 07:39:53

<fluffs up pile of very best pillows and softest duvet ready for State and Baby Jesus>

Good luck xxxx

Good luck State, thinking of you ! xxx

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Wed 19-Dec-12 09:17:19

::fills kettle, starts wood fire, prepares a selection of baby sleeping places including manger, crib and Moses basket::

Thinking about you State!

DreamyDreaminOfAWhiteChristmas Wed 19-Dec-12 09:21:06

Good luck State! Will be thinking of you, can't wait to hear all about it. Xxx

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Wed 19-Dec-12 09:46:25

<gets baking>

I'm at Oxfam today but I'm going to check as often as I can for updates.

Very pleased to announce the safe arrival of Lily Mary Hope at 10.03am today weighing 8lb3oz x

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Wed 19-Dec-12 12:14:18


Gorgeous name...don't tell Olivia. grin

Congratulations. MWAH to you and the baby.

snowtunesgirl Wed 19-Dec-12 12:28:24


<Puts up new crib in The Puddle> grin

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Wed 19-Dec-12 12:29:42

Congratulations!!!! Beautiful name. Thanks for telling us. I've reported for HQ xxx

Congratulations! smile

And who was right??? wink

DreamyDreaminOfAWhiteChristmas Wed 19-Dec-12 14:12:02

Congratulations! Not Jesus, but you got Mary in there! Hope you're recovering well. Make sure you waft that new baby smell around in here, my baby doesn't smell brand new anymore. sad

IceTheChristmasKateMumsnet (MNHQ) Wed 19-Dec-12 15:29:41


Very pleased to announce the safe arrival of Lily Mary Hope at 10.03am today weighing 8lb3oz x

How absolutely lovely! Congratulations! Lots of MNHQ love to StateofConfusion and her brand new DD!

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Wed 19-Dec-12 16:01:34

Awwwwwwwwwwwww!!! What a beautiful name and a good weight!

I hope you are recovering comfortably and enjoying your little girl.

Big snuggles to you all xxxx

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Wed 19-Dec-12 16:52:44

A star to welcome little Lily Mary Hope.

It's a perfect name with beautiful meanings smile

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Wed 19-Dec-12 16:59:53

Congratulations State , Stateman and Lily

Wonderful news!

I hope you have a very quick recovery, MWAH!

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Wed 19-Dec-12 17:05:56

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BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Wed 19-Dec-12 18:19:33

I think the Puddle is the place to be for Messiah-esque births. Baby Brian is due at Easter.

Me and State are obviously the chosen ones grin

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Wed 19-Dec-12 18:37:15

Not sure we can really ask HQ for an Easter song. The gaps between the Puddlebabies are just right though.

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Wed 19-Dec-12 18:49:43

I will ask for HQ to change all smilies to have bunny ears and insist that everybody includes the name 'Messiah' in their NN.

I think that is fair, what with baby Lily getting so much fuss n all grin

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Wed 19-Dec-12 20:51:00

Hmmmmmmmm grin

Leave it with me, Brian.

DreamyDreaminOfAWhiteChristmas Wed 19-Dec-12 21:15:13

Oh my goodness, have you seen the photo? Baby Lily is gorgeous! I want a snuggle! grin

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Wed 19-Dec-12 21:19:17

OMG She's is absolutely stunning! See, that's the nice thing about an smushed baby. grin

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Wed 19-Dec-12 21:37:50

She's so beautiful! Can't wait til State brings her in for a snuggle.

It was lovely that she dropped in to do the birth announcement too.

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Wed 19-Dec-12 22:02:59

I've just seen the pic, she is adorable!

It has made me want to get my sorry little ass back to work, to cuddle some newborns!

snowtunesgirl Wed 19-Dec-12 22:04:44

Where piccy, where???

DreamyDreaminOfAWhiteChristmas Wed 19-Dec-12 22:10:43

You need to add us all on fb Snow!

snowtunesgirl Wed 19-Dec-12 22:25:27

But then you'll all know who I am in RL and see the rubbish I put on FB!

snowtunesgirl Wed 19-Dec-12 22:28:54

And I'm still feeling all weirdy about the last time I went on a forum and made myself known. They all ended up calling me weird and bitched about me and made me a bit depressed. sad

Thread here.

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Wed 19-Dec-12 22:30:54

But all the Puddlehumpers know who each other is in RL and see each others' rubbish on FB anyway! As well as Lily you could see BabyDreamy and all our other luffly DCs. And Bonkey's beautiful jewellery.

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Wed 19-Dec-12 22:35:42

Oh, Snowy love, that's sick. Poor you.

I don't think it's rubbish in the slightest, I bet DD loved you singing to her.

And the Puddlehumpers aren't like that, we're really not, and you're one of us. Let's be friends?

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Wed 19-Dec-12 22:37:24

I mustn't have State on FB, I thought I did! Can someone suggest me as a friend to her please (then she can decide whether to add, rather than you telling me her RL name without her asking)


EmpressOfTheNorthPole Wed 19-Dec-12 22:52:28

Done, Brian!

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Wed 19-Dec-12 23:01:11

Thank you!
State - if you see this, I'm the friend request with the gold bauble as a profile pic x

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Wed 19-Dec-12 23:07:42

Snowy, you absolutely have to add us all, we are very lovely I promise!

We aren't in a group just individual profiles

I did an amazing rendition of All.That Jazz the other day, high kicked on my status and everything!

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Thu 20-Dec-12 07:29:38

It's true. She did.

LT's Christmas play today and then he's done 'till after the hols. He technically has school tomorrow but he's not going. Just because, really. grin

I am still melting over pics of Lily. She's just so gorgeous!

Going to find out today if MrTee's parents are coming for Christmas. His dad has had some stomach condition for ages that just doesn't seem to be clearing and he's not sure he's up to it. I have a feeling it's just going to be our little family this year. Which doesn't upset me to much, TBH. Much less work for me!

LT's childminder gave him a gift yesterday. I felt bad for about 2 seconds that I didn't get her anything and then got mad all over again about her quitting! Height of maturity. That's me!

snowtunesgirl Thu 20-Dec-12 09:05:53

I baked my childminder a lemon drizzle cake. That's an ok gift isn't it?

Ok ladies, gulp, I'll add you. Then you can gawp at Mini-Show. I am biased but think she's very cute. Not the prettiest baby, but bags of character!

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Thu 20-Dec-12 09:09:03

Homemade cake? Great gift.

We'd love to see Mini-Show! I PMd you my name didn't I?

snowtunesgirl Thu 20-Dec-12 09:22:45

Done ladies! Christ alive I'm tired today. DH and I were arguing again last night. Stupid stuff but all the tiny things add up into big stuff. For example, how can you in the space of 24 hours forget to put a dirty nappy in the bin THREE times. hmm

Mini-Show was up twice last night too which is unusual for her but I am just knackered today.

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Thu 20-Dec-12 09:28:37

LT no longer missing school tomorrow due to sudden appearance of sign up sheet to bring things for a Chrustmas party. Bugger. Off to buy buns...

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Thu 20-Dec-12 09:51:30

Gotcha Snowy! Mini-Snow is luffly.

Well felt rough yesterday . Couldn't stand for more than a few minutes without almost passing out and being sick sad

However , i am feeling slightly more human today!

How are we all? <trots off to catch up>

snowtunesgirl Thu 20-Dec-12 10:01:55

Sorry to hear that Bonkey. There's a tonne of germs and nasties out there!

Empress Mini-Show is a show-off. She'll be grumpy one second and then you get a camera out and it's all poses. I'm going to have trouble with this one!

snowy It was shit and mean what they did, but we are luffly ! smile

Pm me if you want to FB me too. Am on phone so can't do it.....or ask Empress !

Tee Our xmas will be just us this year. I love it. Plus I am feeling particular anti-social this year hmm .

DreamyDreaminOfAWhiteChristmas Thu 20-Dec-12 11:59:29

Snow I think I've added you on fb…! Tracked you down from Empress's page. Hope it's you!

snowtunesgirl Thu 20-Dec-12 12:06:25

Yes, I just confirmed you. wink

snowtunesgirl Thu 20-Dec-12 12:06:51

Bonkey come find me! grin

I have friend requested someone who i have 3 mutual puddle friends.....i hope Its you grin

I am black and white and a side in pic of me and ds.

snowtunesgirl Thu 20-Dec-12 12:18:57

Just confirmed. My profile pic is of an alien baby. grin

That's a darn cute alien baby grin

snowtunesgirl Thu 20-Dec-12 12:31:11


I think my current favourite is the one of DD on DH's shoulders. My good friend who is a photographer took that.

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Thu 20-Dec-12 12:33:46

Isn't she!

It should be pretty easy for Tee and* State* to find you now, Snowy.

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Thu 20-Dec-12 14:12:44

Have added you Snowy smile

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Thu 20-Dec-12 16:14:59

I cannot find snowy! Someone recommend her to me.

LT's Christmas play was brilliant. I was a puddle. Totally disgraced myself!

snowtunesgirl Thu 20-Dec-12 16:34:24

PM'd you Tee!

I just heard that my friend's brother-in-law's house was burgled last night. So, so horrible as his wife, my friend's sister died just a few short months ago after a battle with cancer and they took her jewellery including her wedding ring. Absolutely the last fucking thing they needed. sad

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Thu 20-Dec-12 20:57:30

God, Snowy, that's terrible sad

I've just suggested you to State as a friend and then with Tee you should have a full house!

snowtunesgirl Thu 20-Dec-12 21:03:40

It's like the Puddle Bingo! grin

The burglary is actually in the news at the moment as my friend's brother in law is quite well known. My friend was devastated when her sister passed and this really is the last straw.

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Thu 20-Dec-12 21:13:56

I've just realised who he is. Poor guy sad

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Thu 20-Dec-12 21:19:20

I have to talk about volunteering at the charity shop and how well it's going. I'm mainly dealing with the books and I love it, I'm surprised just how much! Anyway. It's all very uncertain at the moment but there might be a prospect of a paid job there in a couple of months if they can get the funding. Which, if it happened, would be fabulous.

snowtunesgirl Thu 20-Dec-12 21:28:30

You mean you'll be paid to be around books ALL day??? I hate you.

<storms off in jealous rage>

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Thu 20-Dec-12 21:31:58

Only if it comes off! But it would be luffly.....

I'm going to give the bookshops on Charing Cross Rd a ring & see who I should send my CV to. Just on the offchance.

I saw you've now got full house grin Have you seen the piccies of Lily?

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Thu 20-Dec-12 21:40:01

That would be awesome, Empress.

I should be in bed...

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Thu 20-Dec-12 21:47:23

<wraps Tee in duvet with hot water bottle>
<proffers cocoa>

I wonder if Giraffes is on FB? She's a Friend of Puddlehumpers at the very least. Do you think she'd like to join in?

I have giraffes on Fb!

I found her during the wanky wonky peppa pig cake thread grin

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Thu 20-Dec-12 22:40:54

The which????????

snowtunesgirl Thu 20-Dec-12 22:46:17

That thread is fantastic! The penis Peppa cake!

I DID see the pics. I am now broody. envy Actually, it's been creeping up on me for weeks in the run up to DD's first birthday. Suddenly she's not babe in arms anymore and I miss it. I'm very surprised at how this has crept up on me seeing as I look back on her first few months with great stress and sorrow.

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Thu 20-Dec-12 22:48:23

Hang on, penis Snowman, penis Peppa - is there a theme here?????


I KNOW hugs are unMumsnetty but they're not unPuddly.

Aww snowy . Wait til shes a tad older and running away from you in the supermarket or throwing a tantrum in the middle of the street .... wink

IIRC that thread was deleted???

I also have the said cakemaker on fb too wink , I have a chuckle to myself every so often grin

Right am off to bed. Have just done a stocktake and all that I can see in my eyes are bloody beads and numbers confused

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Thu 20-Dec-12 23:10:01

Yes, Snowy, that would be when she hits the teens.... hmm

Night Bonkey.

Humph. I've got a lot of respect for Giraffes, I'd like to be friends with her. Could you suggest me, then it's up to her & her privacy doesn't get infringed?

How do I do that?

<off to Fb to nosey>

No not in bed yet....

Sussed it!

Although...I did go down the list looking for Empress.... blush

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Thu 20-Dec-12 23:17:55


Thanks Bonkey, I've sent the request & messaged her.

Oh? Will she not see a 'Bonkey suggests Empress...'?
I messaged her too grin

You think the amount of time I spend on bloody Fb I would know how to use it hmm

Right really going to bed! Night x

Evening all!

Just a quick one from me, I am reading and keeping up with you but any amount of time reading and I dose off!

Thanks for all your lovely comments, Lily is wonderful, really lovely. I'm very sore and uncomfortable but hoping to go home tomorrow, I'm spending too mcuh time alone thanks to weird visiting times and trying to maintain normality for my big two, and it makes me all daft a tearful.

She is so soft a lovely and squishy though its not all bad grin

OliviaPeaceOnMumsnet (MNHQ) Fri 21-Dec-12 00:13:46


Gorgeous name...don't tell Olivia. grin


Congrats - FABULOUS news and sorry to be late to the party - RL kept me away from MN this week hmm

Actually, as it happens, you have named her after me after all, as I'm OliviaMaryMumsnet.

Hope you're not too sore and can get to go home soon and enjoy time with your little Christmassy bundle.

<<leaves thread before she gets broody>>

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Fri 21-Dec-12 00:21:03

State! Hello!

Lovely to see you!

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Fri 21-Dec-12 00:23:33

Olivia Mary? Even better grin

Stay. Have some cake.

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Fri 21-Dec-12 08:06:08

state! Lovely and squishy. envy

I hope you get home today.

giraffesCantFlyLikeReindeer Fri 21-Dec-12 10:55:17

just makrking place on threads I am on so I remember to come back later!

Were going home today, I can't wait as I really miss dp but also very anxious, I feel so sore and weak.

Can every one send good behaviour vibes to my big two for me smile

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Fri 21-Dec-12 15:35:00

That's good to know, Giraffes!

Sending lots and lots of good behaviour vibes, State, and loving the pictures. Good luck x

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Fri 21-Dec-12 20:58:47

Explanation of feeling totally crappy explained with arrival of period 4 days early. So much for no period with Mirena, although GP did tell me it can take 6 months to settle. So I'll give it a few more months.

State just reading your Bounty thread. They should be glad I never saw them when I was in.

snowtunesgirl Fri 21-Dec-12 21:37:46

State I want your baby! envy

I just made another lemon drizzle cake if anyone wants any. I'm forever making it for other people but never get to have some myself so I thought sod it, I'll make one for me!

Piccy on FB!

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Fri 21-Dec-12 21:59:59

Thanks for the cake Snowy I love lemon drizzle cake.

Sending good behaviour vibes to your big 2 State I bet they are thrilled to have you home. Lily is so beautiful, absolutely gorgeous.

I hope you feel better soon Tee

I was very brave and did the big food shop today. Big mistake, 45 mins in the checkout queue.

We have potty training progress, for the last 3 nights in a row ds has done a poo on the potty before bed! Tis a breakthrough. I hope he has turned the corner.

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Fri 21-Dec-12 22:05:00

Me too please Snowy.

Congratulations Shaky and Shakyboy!

Hey, State, did you see your thread's in Discussions of the Day?

Hope you feel better soon, Tee.

I'd not empress I'm mning on my phone though so just use threads I'm on, didn't expect it to get so many replies I was just upset and dp was driving so I couldn't ring him so i told mumsnet blush

snowtunesgirl Fri 21-Dec-12 23:24:08

Well it seems as though that thread may well do some good. Some of those stories are just horrifying!

Where are you all?

Everyones asleep here except me and I'm bored.

OhComeAllYeZombies Sat 22-Dec-12 23:16:27

Zombie slips in quietly to give State a huge hug and say many, many congratulations! Lily is gorgeous. I also love her names. Hope is my middle name as well.

{{{{{{{{{{ State }}}}}}}}}}

{{{{{{{{{{ Lily }}}}}}}}}}

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Sat 22-Dec-12 23:16:34

I'm doing another job application and eating DW's sour cream, chive & red onion scones. And I've been in & out on your Bounty thread. I hope this is ok but I tweeted them the link, said something like 'Rude, aggressive, make new mums cry - is that really the image you want?"

How's little Lily? Gorgeous pics.

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Sat 22-Dec-12 23:19:22

Zombie! Welcome back!
<hands round scones>

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Sat 22-Dec-12 23:21:15

<also waves at State and Lily>

Hugs to you all.

I'm supposed to be asleep too, am snuggled under the duvet, DP is on the twat bench because he is breathing! arse

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Sat 22-Dec-12 23:22:45

Hey Zombie Merry Christmas!

Yummy scones Empress Thank you

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Sat 22-Dec-12 23:23:31

Thanks Shaky, I'll pass that on to DW!

OhComeAllYeZombies Sat 22-Dec-12 23:31:01

Thanks, Empress and Shaky. 'Tis only a flying visit as DZH and I are off tomorrow for 4 nights in a hotel.

One of my New Year's resolutions is to be more sociable. (I really, really, REALLY just want to see the back of bloody 2012. 2013 has to be better.)

{{{{{ Puddle }}}}}

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Sun 23-Dec-12 00:38:12


Hope things start improving for both of you from now!

Is everyone asleep?

State, having said I'd tweeted, I just went back and had another look - Bounty's page is full of us!

Good to hear from you Zombie and thank you, I'm rather besotted with her she's just lovely. Hope you and DZH have a lovely time away and here's hoping for a fantastic 2013 for you both {{{{{{{{{{ zombie }}}}}}}}}} oh and love the christmas name grin

empress those scones sound good!

Lily is great, had a rough first night home but that was mainly down to me, our hospital gives all section patients an electric bed so I had the sides up and built a nest so I could dose whilst I fed her, last night I couldn't get comfy at all and was hurting so it made her feeding seem like it was taking forever, tonight I'm staying downstairs, we have massive sofas, and she's just had a reeeally long feed so she's in the pram and I'm laying down but have built a sitty up nest for if she wants to feed for ages. Dp is down here too despite me saying he can go up if he wants.

Also got very emotional as I adore her so pleased she's here but I'm mourning the pregnancy in a way as I know Lily is my last baby, the surgeon said my womb was dangerously thin and had I gone into labour we would have been in serious trouble, any further babys would need delivering at 36ish weeks which I couldn't do, also fecking hell I hurt don't fancy this again!

I've backed away from the bounty thread I'm too tired and baby brain to deal with a proper debate atm.

shaky hope dp is behaving, mine spent hefty spell on the super twat bench this morning, I'm hoping it was tiredness to blame.

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Sun 23-Dec-12 02:15:25

The scones are gorgeous!
Hope tonight's better for you, State. Don't worry about the Bounty thread, it's coping nicely.

giraffesCantFlyLikeReindeer Sun 23-Dec-12 02:24:53

Huge congrats state smile so happy for you! x

Got you on fb now empress smile happy to add anyone on here so long as you don't send me evil PMs as one MNer did!

Had wisdom tooth out yesterday - was my first visit to the dentist in 10yrs!!

Is everyone set for Christmas? I hate it! i can't wait for it to be over!!

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Sun 23-Dec-12 07:01:08

Morning all.

Nice to see you zombie. I hope you and DZH have a nice time in the hotel.

State those first few days post CS are difficult, but not impossible. You'll get through and then you can hand Lily around for a snuggle. grin

griaffe I am not sure if we are friends on FB. I have a hard time remembering real names versus MN names...I'm friends with all the Puddlers, though.

I was awake at 530 for no reason except my brain hates me. Off to pick up the turkey and gammon and some bobs and bits today and then settling in for the holiday. Had a lovely time last night taking LT down to see the Christmas Lights at City Hall and then out to dinner.

Morning all,

Much better night last night, well from what I remember of the newborn days of the big two, she went in the pram a few times, for 2 1/2hrs at one point, lost track of time after that. Although she's made up for it as she's only just settled after waking at 6.30am. Spoke to soon, bloody ds shouting his mouth off upstairs... I swear one day I will tape that boys mouth shut!

DreamyDreaminOfAWhiteChristmas Sun 23-Dec-12 15:14:29

Hi Zombie, long time no see! Hope you're doing well. {{hugs}}

giraffes, pm me if you'd like to add me on fb! You sound lovely. smile

State, hope you're not too sore. Lily is so gorgeous. Your Bounty thread seems to have really started something! I never had any trouble with them, but some of the stories on your thread are shocking.

Empress, your Dw's scones sound amazing. Would she share the recipe?

if this works this pictures this years christmas card, its made me a tad emotional, i actually got this pic by accident in between them posing, so it seems more special, even more so as ds and dd1 have been a touch challenging.

they were lovely to me when i had ds and dd too dreamy, so it really took me by suprise, i never expected such a response i just was upset and alone so told mumsnet to make myself feel better, ha!

OliviaPeaceOnMumsnet (MNHQ) Sun 23-Dec-12 18:41:08

Baby Jesus looks lovely. grin

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Sun 23-Dec-12 19:13:02

Oh State, that's beautiful.

Dreamy, I'm sure she'd be happy to! I'll ask.

Thank you Olivia, and a ginful and Rob Lowe-filled Christmas to you xx

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Sun 23-Dec-12 20:30:47

Thanks Olivia Happy Christmas. grin

Great picture State.

I have officially barricaded myself in until the 27th. MrT and LT are heading back to City Centre tomorrow to give me some space to start prep and let me be alone a bit. This introvert would lose her mind otherwise. I'm really sorry father in law is ill but not very sorry they won't be here for Christmas, TBH. We'll see them as soon as he's better, though.

I have come up with a flaw in my plan to watch Grey's and make things as both my recipes and the ability to watch Grey's in the kitchen need my tablet. I can only do one or the other. Total first world problem!

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Sun 23-Dec-12 21:41:18

Aw, State, saw that pic on your FB and it is beautiful - DD was very impressed that you have a Christmas baby just like her grin

I am stumbling in to offer some of DD's Smartie cake and then I'm back off again as I am bloody exhausted. Is it just me or are birthday's exhausting?? DD had a lovely day and I just need sleep [snores]

Not sure I'll get back on before the big day so just want to wish you all a very happy, healthy and peaceful Christmas.

Lots of festive love n stuff



Happy birthday briangirl grin ta for the cake, looks wonderful <munches> now go put your feet up! X

Merry christmas Olivia are you taps running gin yet?

tee obviously you need another tablet! --or you could write the recipes out but what fun is that--

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Sun 23-Dec-12 23:14:04

Dreamy, she says yes so I'll have it up by tomorrow.

Luffly cake, thanks Brian. Glad it went well.

State grin It's a perfect Messianic name you know. Lily means purity or peace, Mary covers the mum of the last one AND her Auntie Olivia, and Hope speaks for itself. Watch for unexpected visitors.

Tee, State's right, two tablets!

Best get dp to prep the stable grin

He's at tescos atm, all the dcs are asleep, I'm exhausted and can't drop off <wails>

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Mon 24-Dec-12 00:48:46

<turns down lights>
<wraps State in duvet & starts slow backrub>

If Tee has two tablets will that make her Moses?

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Mon 24-Dec-12 01:03:30

Tee I had a meltdown tonight! Surrounded by a million presents,all needing wrapping, got completely overwhelmed, had a bit of a wobbler.. However, I did manage to sort it out, carry on.. One panic attack later and I was back in control again.

Fecking depression and anxiety are a massive pain in the arse <gavel>

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Mon 24-Dec-12 01:08:41

<deep breathes and hides further under the duvet>

<hands State another bail of hay and a big fluffy blanket for the manger>

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Mon 24-Dec-12 01:38:31

<moves over to give Shaky backrub>

Good on you for getting it under control and carrying on, Shaky.

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Mon 24-Dec-12 04:30:03

Here's the scone recipe, Dreamy.

225g (8oz) self raising flour
2.5ml (1/2tsp) salt
40g (1 1/2oz) butter
60ml (4tbsp) fresh soured cream
60ml (4tbsp) fresh milk
One small finely chopped red onion
Handful of finely chopped chives

Fry the onion for about 5 minutes.

Sift flour & salt into a bowl.

Rub butter into flour until mixture resembles fine breadcrumbs.

Add cream, milk, onion & chives all at once. Mix to a soft, but not sticky, dough with a knife.

Turn out onto a lightly floured work surface. Knead quickly until smooth.

Roll out to about 1cm thickness.

The book says to cut into 7 or 8 rounds but DW normally gets more.

Transfer onto a greased tray. Brush tops with milk.

Bake at 230C/450F/Gas mark 8 for 7 - 10 minutes or until well risen and golden.

Morning .
Happy Christmas eve! grin

Will catch up later.....if i return from Sainsbos ! confused

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Mon 24-Dec-12 07:18:29

They sure the hell are, shaky. Good on you for getting through it and carrying on.

Well, I am Jewish, Empress... grin

Have a small boy already jumping around the house and he's still got a whole day to wait! And he's friggin' eagle eyes. We have one Co-op box of chocolates which we thought he wouldn't see on top of the soon as he walked into the kitchen he said 'what's that?!' Deffo my son. smile

Well my big dcs are in delightful moods this morning, NOT.

Hope your ok shaky x

giraffesCantFlyLikeReindeer Mon 24-Dec-12 18:40:19

Hello smile I have made a disasterous meringue - it tastes like lemon-egg-pie - yuck!!

Hope you all getting on with wrapping and not sittinga round drinking like me. (I am only drinking sparkling grape juice, but I love it!)

These are the flowers I got got cemetery for Aillidh

giraffesCantFlyLikeReindeer Mon 24-Dec-12 18:41:23

brian love that cake! YUM

giraffesCantFlyLikeReindeer Mon 24-Dec-12 18:42:15

state that photo made me all tearful AWWW

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Mon 24-Dec-12 19:54:34

Those flowers are gorgeous Giraffes. I can't even imagine how ExPat is feeling tonight.

I am finished for the evening and about to open a bottle of wine and watch some TV. Ready for the big day!

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Mon 24-Dec-12 20:08:31

Thank you everyone, much better today after my wobble last night. I'm usually very organised and calm but since I have been ill I have found it difficult to do anything. NEXT year, I vow to wrap each present on the day that I buy it. So glad that I finished the wrapping last night and haven't got to do it tonight.

Shakyboy is fast asleep. Edgar the elf went back to the help Santa deliver the presents. He left a present in the bathroom, new pjs! Ds refused point blank to wear them because they are short sleeved <sighs>

Merry Christmas everyone! grin

I am halfway done a bottle of wine.
I have presents to forage out and wrap and Ds is still awake. It will be challenge! hmm

Merry Christmas fellow Puddlers !!! grin

TeeElfOnTeeShelf Mon 24-Dec-12 20:18:30

LT actually asked to go to bed at 615! Now he'll be up at 530...

Bottle of wine just opened. Box of chocs sent by SIL and sitting under the tree being eyed up...

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Mon 24-Dec-12 20:48:57

Merry Christmas, Puddlehumpers!

(My phone's learned to spell Puddlehumpers) grin

DW and I wrapped DD's presents last night when she was in bed, DD and I wrapped DW's presents this afternoon while she was out, hopefully at some point the two of them will have wrapped mine!

Have you seen the Fairytale of New York thread? It's brilliant.

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Mon 24-Dec-12 20:59:45

It's great Empress

Santa has left ds a note! grin

I still need to do his stocking and bring down the presents.

<gets arse into gear to do it instead of sitting here thinking about it>

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Mon 24-Dec-12 21:09:19

I saw, Shaky grin

DD bought 3 stockings with her own money today and she and I stuffed them this afternoon as a surprise for DW. She also decided she wanted some of her presents in a lucky dip so that's my job for tonight once she's gone to bed!

DreamyDreaminOfAWhiteChristmas Mon 24-Dec-12 21:17:32

Glad you're doing better Shaky. I hated wrapping this year. Had to do a little at a time when Ds1 was at school and Ds2 was napping, and Ds2 does not like napping. angry I just wanted to get it done.

Gorgeous flowers giraffes. smile

Please thank your Dw Empress. I can't wait to make those scones.

Hope your Dd had a fantastic birthday, Brian. The cake looked great! And the photo you just put on fb of your Dd cuddling your bump is lovely.

We are having a glass of sparkling wine before I sneak into Ds1's room to get his stocking and fill it. He stayed up to watch The Snowman and the Snowdog, and loved it. I had to try very hard not to cry!

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Mon 24-Dec-12 21:38:16

Away in a puddle
No bunfights for us
Just snuggles and hot tubs
And lovely back rubs
To all the puddlehumpers
I love you so much
So have some Naice cakes
And a big glass of punch!

DreamyDreaminOfAWhiteChristmas Mon 24-Dec-12 21:45:03

grin Luff you Shaky!

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Mon 24-Dec-12 21:45:49

DW says you're welcome, Dreamy.

Brilliant, Shaky! <applauds>

DreamyDreaminOfAWhiteChristmas Mon 24-Dec-12 21:46:15

Hang on - was just reading the Fairytale of New York Mumsnet thread, and it reminded me - weren't we going to put on a Nativity? We are leaving it a little late!

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Mon 24-Dec-12 21:50:29

Once in royal puddle city
Stood a lowly mumsnetter
Found the bestest place to hide
Where all is nice and civilised.
No bunfights, trolls or bitching
No one is unreasonable.
Nice blankets, throws and cakes
Gorgeous little baby State

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Mon 24-Dec-12 21:52:09

Eek! We were! Ok.... Um...

State and Family's roles are obvious. I think Olivia should be the Angel Gabriel.

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Mon 24-Dec-12 21:54:07

Oh shit I forgot about the nativity!

<puts tea towel on head to look like a shepherd>

snowtunesgirl Mon 24-Dec-12 21:54:11

Hello Puddle! I've been lost in Christmas but am just prepping for tomorrow. Just me, DH, DD and DBro tomorrow. So all rather low key but still need to get veg and stuff ready.

I think my sodding IBS is rearing its ugly head though. It was blissfully absent whilst I was pregnant. Grr.

So a question for those who are much more seasoned than me, what on earth do you do with a baby over Christmas when there are no groups and stuff on?

DreamyDreaminOfAWhiteChristmas Mon 24-Dec-12 22:00:48

Where's Bonkey with her Shitland? We need a donkey!

The 3 wise men are probably on the twat bench, shall we let them off for the performance?

I think I should probably be a shepherd too as I seem to spend most of my time herding children and animals around. I'll go and get a tea towel.

Snow - soft play, and play dates with friend's Dc's. Some groups do still run through holidays so have a look around.

<rides in on shitland disguised as a donkey>

Here we are - just in time btw the looks f things.

DreamyDreaminOfAWhiteChristmas Mon 24-Dec-12 22:07:40

Thank god you're here, State needs a lift to Bethlehem Tesco. grin

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Mon 24-Dec-12 22:12:36

I'll be the innkeeper. Shall I go find Olivia?

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Mon 24-Dec-12 22:16:51

Shaky, just seen your Once In Royal Puddle City, that's great.

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Mon 24-Dec-12 22:17:31

Hey Snowy will you be the director?
Or would you prefer another role?
<moves twat bench into the stable>
<collapses in heap, these 3 twats wise men are HEAVY>

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Mon 24-Dec-12 22:21:09

And do you know, not one of the 3 twats wise men offered to help me!
<glares at twat bench>

DreamyDreaminOfAWhiteChristmas Mon 24-Dec-12 22:23:55

Have the 3 Wise Twats come bearing gifts? They'd better have… <glares menacingly>

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Mon 24-Dec-12 22:27:14

Yeah, they've bought an iron, a cheese grater and a copy of fifty shades of shite! twats

DreamyDreaminOfAWhiteChristmas Mon 24-Dec-12 22:28:24

Utter twats!

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Mon 24-Dec-12 22:31:12

Be nice, it's Christmas. I've just shouted out to Olivia on the Fairytale thread.

Stateman is Joseph so the Three Kings are Shakyman, Bonkeyman and Dreamyman?

DreamyDreaminOfAWhiteChristmas Mon 24-Dec-12 22:35:27

Ok, but Dreamyman (! snort!) is ill, so I hope he doesn't cough all the way through his lines.

So do you have room for MaryState and Joseph*State*man at the Inn, Empress?

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Mon 24-Dec-12 22:39:05

Not on the top floor where the bedrooms are, but there's a lovely warm room downstairs where the animals go in the winter. Clean straw and I'll put some warm bedding in the manger.

snow firstly your dd is so so cute (facebooks my keep awake for night feeds tool grin I've no idea, I remember ds' first christmas feeling lost as our groups all stopped I think I just took advantage of any friends/relatives who were off work and he enjoyed his presents.

Fantastic songs shaky!

Hope littletee isn't up too early tee

giraffes the flowers are beautiful, thinking of the expat family and you, Aillidh really did capture the hearts of many xxx

We are still wrapping here, ds and dd had a bad day behaviour wise, I cried, they got worse, I cried again, dp went postal at them, I cried about that, fecking hormones are worse than when I was pregnant (oh how I miss being pregnant) and I ended up having a row with my aunt, all in all my christmas spirit has been stamped out of me. Luckily baby state is a poppet and has cluster fed since around 6pm until half hour ago so I've been trapped under her squishy lovelyness whilst dp attacks the wrapping and I've come out in a mildly better mood, I'm just hoping and wishing and praying the big two are far nicer tomorrow.

Also the bastard surgeon I got for my section has ishoos with people going home to older dcs so used fucking staples on me, to say they're uncomfortable and hurt doesn't cover it, midwifes agreed to come out on boxing day and remove them for me as that's day 7, however they could wait a day or two apparently, when she should only be on emergencys I'm so fed up of them I had very little discomfort after my previous sections but this is utterly debilitating!

Anyway enough of my whinging, I best help dp wrap something.

<Pulls on blue dress and teatowel on head, wraps baby state in a white blanket, no manger I'm afraid, but it is mumsnet so will a bugaboo do>

DreamyDreaminOfAWhiteChristmas Mon 24-Dec-12 22:44:54

Only if it's a bugaboo donkey.

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Mon 24-Dec-12 22:45:30


DreamyDreaminOfAWhiteChristmas Mon 24-Dec-12 22:46:45

Oh and staples? Ouch! Glad you can get them out on boxing day. Lily is so scrumptious, I'm broody already, and my baby is still a squidgy, snuggly baby!

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Mon 24-Dec-12 22:52:13

Maybe the MiniPuddlehumpers could be the animals?

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Mon 24-Dec-12 22:56:31

<hugs State very gently>

Ouch, the staples shouldn't hurt too much coming out. They are usually more painful while they are in. Have you got decent pain relief? Our hospital give you vvv strong cocodamol and voltarol (diclofenac) after a section but some are reluctant to give you the cocodamol if you are bf and will only give you paracetamol. You can buy solpadiene max over the counter, it is stronger than ordinary cocodamol but less than the v strong ones (and you CAN take them while bf despite what is says on the packet)

And NO! Sit and watch your dp wrapping! That is a stern midwife command! < puts on stern face>

You are looking stunning in your blue dress and tea towel!

snowtunesgirl Mon 24-Dec-12 23:07:35

Staples! shock What? Why? And how on earth are you able to type coherently? My first few weeks after DD's birth is a blur of pain.

Over in House of Snow, I think DH and I are going to have to really start watching what we say around Mini Snow. She's most definitely picking up things and repeating them at what seems to be an increasingly alarming rate. Now Mummy and Daddy are fine but today she said Oppam Gangnam Style. hmm

I bloody wish shaky I have paracetamol and ibruprofen! I know its the staples causing the pain as one end hasn't been done neatly iyswim and there's been a discomfort there since the spinal wore off. Now its a pinchy stabby bastard pain. I can't stand sit or lie down without feeling like its pinching, midwife wasn't impressed at all as its making my recovery harder and its in my notes I had very quick healing scars with ds and dd.

Lily is brilliant though, sometimes she insists on sleeping on me --or my bfing v pillow but I'm not sposed to admit that, but its when me and dp are both sat in the living room with her-- but she sleeps, which is all that matters! Last night she went down in the pram for 3 1/2 hours, I woke up feeling most confused ha!

dreamy she makes me broody, its insane, I look her and think oooh I'd love another one of you! Then get all teary and stupid as she is my last, I know now I can't do this again. But I'm enjoying every second of her.

snowtunesgirl Mon 24-Dec-12 23:08:45

And did someone say directing? It's been a while since I directed!

snowtunesgirl Mon 24-Dec-12 23:09:49

Woah. 3 1/2 hours is amazing! shock grin

grin snow that's hilarious

This is terrible really but its a venting tool me and dp use when the dcs are naughty we refer to them, what we thought out of earshot, to each other as shit 1 and shit 2 (like thing 1 and 2 from cat in the hat) anyway, dd was being trying yesterday and me and dp had a mutter next thing we hear is ds, "oi shit 2 mum and dad are talking about you" I was mortified but couldn't help but laugh!

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Mon 24-Dec-12 23:20:44

<sends out States Dp to boots on Boxing Day for solpadiene max> make sure it tablets not soluble, the soluble ones have caffeine in and you will never ever sleep.

You will feel much, much better when the staples are out, I promise.

3 1/2 hours in the pram! Wow! Merry Xmas!

I'm really glad to hear that shaky I'm coping really well this time, with ds dp picked up a lot of the slack, dd1 had me in a mess by day 3 and I gave her a bottle in floods of tears, we did still bf for a year but that bottle remained every night as I'd loose the plot the same time, maybe I've grown up a lot but Lily is a lot easier. So these fecking staples are pissing me right off!

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Mon 24-Dec-12 23:32:02

State you are amazing! I only managed to bf for 10 weeks and given everything that I know I was very blush about it. Just another stick to beat myself with.

It's like the tesco advert, every little helps!

I struggled feeding ds, he was on formular top ups from day one (prem, grunting, blood sugar ishoos) and I felt guilty for ages, especially as since around 2 he's been all about Daddy. But now he and dd are no different, just as healthy and he's a high acheiver apparently! So thanks for that aptamil grin

Feeding this times going really well, no on going pain at all, I do wince abit when she first latches after a long gap as she's a greedy bugger and is rough but after that initial gulp I re-latch her and its fine, the mws in hospital couldn't believe it, I can't take credit I've no idea what I'm doing, but Lily does!

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Mon 24-Dec-12 23:42:23

Go lily grin

Merry Xmas everyone, I'm off to bed. I hope you all have a lovely time.

<big, squishy, puddle hugs for everyone>

MWAH xxx

snowtunesgirl Tue 25-Dec-12 00:30:16

<shakes BF poms poms for Lily and State> I'm still BFing Mini Show but she's a food monster now so doesn't really ask for it. sad I miss the days when she was super tiny and I could just go out with her well wrapped up and a change bag as had milk, will travel.

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Tue 25-Dec-12 00:44:21

I'm in bed and snuggling under the duvet.

I am going to put the iPad down, go to sleep and it will be Xmas when I wake up. Goodnight and merry Christmas to you all grin


EmpressOfTheNorthPole Tue 25-Dec-12 01:34:49

I'm back now, been making samosas & cheese scones for tomorrow, anyone still awake?

Luffly teatowel, State, hope Baby Jesus is snug asleep.

Snowy, I bet Mini Snow would make a gorgeous lamb. Or Assistant Angel?

Merry Christmas xxxx

Jesus is asleep, dps finally finished the wrapping so I'm now off to sleep, I hope.

Oh and to add to the bloody staples I have the toy of injections to prevent blood clots, they don't do the correct dose though so I get two jabs at a time, two! Dps pretty good at doing them tbh, but christ could they make those first days any bloody grimmer! (Sp)

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Tue 25-Dec-12 01:45:10

((((((( ))))))))

God, poor you.

Hope you sleep well, Madonna, & the lowing oxen don't keep you awake.

DD's still up. She went to bed and reappeared an hour later 'too excited to sleep'. At least it means we'll all get a lie in.

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Tue 25-Dec-12 10:34:51

Good morning and merry Christmas everyone!

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Tue 25-Dec-12 12:21:56

i've got tickets for Meat Loaf's farewell concert at the O2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Tue 25-Dec-12 12:22:20

Merry Xmas Shaky xxx

DreamyDreaminOfAWhiteChristmas Tue 25-Dec-12 14:37:54

Merry Christmas Puddlehumpers!!

Dh got me a kindle, but the screen has a chip. sad Amazon say a replacement will be here by Friday.

Well done on the bfing Lily! Baby dreamy was such a guzzler, I thought we'd be fine, but his gums feel like razorblades. sad Tongue tie will be sorted asap after new year.

Merry Christmas Puddle!

Absolute chaos here, looks like toysrus but there is 3 dcs this year, and now ! Ds and dd have both had the obligatory break downs, Lily being a clingy bugger and won't go in the pram, but she did for 4 1/2hrs last night!!! So I've got her in the sling snoozing whilst dp cooks.

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Tue 25-Dec-12 15:25:49

Kindles are fabulous, Dreamy. Glad they're going to sort the tongue tie.
is DreamyBoy enjoying himself?

Tee2072 Tue 25-Dec-12 17:55:26

Evenin' all.

Urgh. Calling for duvet day tomorrow. Husband concurs.

Sounds like everyone had lovely days, I'm so glad!

Merry Christmas again!

Anyone else wonder why they bother sometimes? I've carefully shopped and budgeted (sp) since June for christmas and to say ds and dd have been rotten doesn't cover it, stroppy, moody and ungrateful, my brother and sister are here with Mum and her DH and ds had a strop as dbro got a leappad tablet thingy and he didn't, but we got him an ipod touch for his birthday, no amount of explaining would get through to him that yes dbro had x y and z, but he also had a b and c that he didn't have!! Exasperating doesn't cover it! Dd is screamy and stroppy about everything so they're now in bed, here's to an evening with babystate who's been no bother as always!

DreamySleepyPostTurkeySnooze Tue 25-Dec-12 20:47:59

sad Hope they're better behaved tomorrow State.

Dreamy boy has had a fantastic day thanks Empress. He took hours to open his presents because he played with each one as he opened them. He's loved every minute! He was in bed by 6.30 though, all the excitement tired him out and he was starting to get a bit tearful. Baby dreamy has been lovely too, cooing and smiling at everyone! <heart melts>

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Tue 25-Dec-12 21:30:29

He looks utterly starstruck by Father Christmas!

I hope so too, State.

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Tue 25-Dec-12 22:35:44

Fanjo's present 1.....

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Tue 25-Dec-12 22:36:28

and Fanjo's present 2!

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Tue 25-Dec-12 22:42:39

OK, another go at Fanjo's present 2 although this may mean duplicates. Explanation is in this thread, I think Santa must have dropped Fanjo's presents here by mistake because she's the threadlord.

DreamySleepyPostTurkeySnooze Tue 25-Dec-12 22:45:55

Haha, you're so thoughtful Empress! I bet she'll love them. Father Christmas did get her what she wanted after all!

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Tue 25-Dec-12 22:47:21

Yep! Love the new name, Dreamy.

Thank you! I knew someone would hear my plea grin

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Tue 25-Dec-12 23:20:11

Merry Christmas Fanjo grin

Tee2072 Wed 26-Dec-12 14:42:27

How is everyone? We've had a very quiet Boxing Day, just the way I like them!

I am off in the main boards causing trouble...

snowtunesgirl Wed 26-Dec-12 15:16:50

Where are you causing trouble?

Tee2072 Wed 26-Dec-12 15:21:40

AIBU. I'm stating some bald truths that are upsetting some people. I'm getting a lot of back up, too though!

snowtunesgirl Wed 26-Dec-12 15:37:35

Is it the one about being treated with respect over Christmas? I've just commented on that one.

Tee2072 Wed 26-Dec-12 16:36:06

This one Snowy.

I saw that tee I'm with you on this one, I ended up having a row with my Aunt christmas eve and asking her to leave my house because she'd messed me around with plans/times since october then rang me late the day before saying when they'd arrive and expected lunch, anyway me and dp lost track of time, he was very busy I was in agony with the staples and fending off the affections of 6 big kids from Lily, and was a touch fed up of the spectating of every aspect of her care, when trying to change her she was screaming and aunt called her dcs to watch hmm as my cousin wanted to see her cord apparently! This attracted the whole brood so I asked them all to just step a bit as they were making me flustered (exact words) aunt bursts into tears and storms off to the bathroom, comes back and sniffles in the corner then when my Mum and I ignored her at 2ish she had a massive strop saying it was clear she wasn't welcome, dp said well if you'd agreed a plan with us months ago we'd be more organised, she then got very personal and spiteful so I told her to leave. The whole family is controlled by her outbursts and I for one am sick of it. She came back in and appolagised but I'm still seething with her

Whoops sorry for the essay, its just really playing on my mind!

shaky you were so right staples out and I feel far more human! Despite Lily being a huge pig last night!

Tee2072 Wed 26-Dec-12 18:04:11

Well done State. Peo

Tee2072 Wed 26-Dec-12 18:04:57

Sorry...people act like that because they are allowed to. I won't put up with it any more, myself.

BonkeyMollocks Wed 26-Dec-12 22:01:04

Hello all!
Hope you have had a good Christmas.
Mine has been a bit mixed. Had a lovely xmas day yesterday, and managed to eat my dinner despite having a idea what would happen.... All relaxing at home, just a generally lovely lazy day with my little family!

Skip through to today and I am paying badly for eating said dinner. No food so far today sad

Decs will be coming down tomorrow - I feel twitchy. I want my living room back.

State Good for you! Tee is spot on! I don't put up with it, used to, but no more. I seem to have grown some balls when I had ds. I don't need the hassle of anyone else!

bonkey you poor love, have you thought about seeing the gp? Can't be much fun being ill so often, glad you had a nice christmas day though xxx

Mines been mixed also, the big dcs have been a bit trying but were much nicer for the last part of today which is nice, tbh if me and dp lowered our standards and he hadn't had to fetch my Mum etc in between cooking, and I wasn't feeding Lily so often ds and dd1 would have been calmer I assume as we could have got the hamma beads out etc. Felt awful saying no to some things but i had no choice. We still have 2 weeks two Weeks until ds is back to school, just over for dd so I'm sure we'll manage to do everything they got in that time, two weeks baptism in fire as a family of five that's for sure!!

BonkeyMollocks Wed 26-Dec-12 22:17:51

I am going to next week once the madness is well and truly over and won't have to wait hours and hours to be seen .
Its getting silly now. I don't think its anything more than a viscous circle but I need to know how to break it!.
I eat..get sick...can't eat...feel sick...don't want to eat...feel sick....get better...get another bug...get sick....can't eat.... <sigh>

Glad to hear they have bucked up abit. Must be a bit much for them at the moment. New sister, christmas, holidays etc etc. I'm sure once everything settles down abit they will.

I saw the snails grin

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Wed 26-Dec-12 22:21:48

I saw the snails too! grin

Poor Bonkey, ((((( ))))) hope the GP sorts it out.

Tee2072 Wed 26-Dec-12 22:23:52

The snails are awesome!

I have now been called a bitch and an arsehole on that thread. Ah well, such is Mumsnet!

LT is having a day at his new day care tomorrow. Fingers crossed it goes well and they can start collecting him next week.

Fuck em tee if people would rather be door mats their entire life and bitch about it on mumsnet its them who will end up miserable. Good luck tomorrow, really hope it goes well for LT and you ofc.

The snails are cool, ds is desperate to clean them out, so I'm guessing friday ill be at the sodding tropical pet store for fresh substrate. One snail is huge compared to when we brought them, that tanks not gonna last long confused

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Wed 26-Dec-12 23:15:26

I agree with State and what on earth were you thinking of, going to AIBU?
Jeez, I thought you knew better than that! <drags Tee back to the puddle>

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Wed 26-Dec-12 23:17:25

<tucks Tee into bed with plumpest pillows and fluffiest blanket>

snowtunesgirl Wed 26-Dec-12 23:20:54

Tee that thread has gone really weird. confused

EmpressOfThePuddle Wed 26-Dec-12 23:21:59

<brings Tee (and anyone else who wants it) hot chocolate laced with whisky. Plus jug of iced water and glasses>

I'm going to go & look at that thread again, anyone coming?

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Wed 26-Dec-12 23:41:22

<creeps back to scary thread>

ShakySingsMerryXmasEveryone Wed 26-Dec-12 23:51:28

<comes back to the lovely puddle, S'Ok, Tee will be in bed now>

<weird thread> confused
Ps, when is it acceptable to take your Xmas name off?

EmpressOfThePuddle Wed 26-Dec-12 23:53:33

I took a load of wine and chocolates from Chaos's chic thread to the scary thread, it might cheer them up a bit.

BonkeyMollocks Thu 27-Dec-12 15:19:27

My tree and decs are down and it looks so clean and tidy.

I love christmas but once boxing day has gone I get itching to get back to normal!

Feel more human today thank god!

How are we all?

Tee2072 Thu 27-Dec-12 17:51:21


LT had a fab time at his new day care. Didn't want to come home. MrT and I hit the sales but didn't find much. Was like a ghost town when we got to city centre around 930, was very strange.

Bonkey! It's still December!! Ours are probably coming down next week sometime.

I have now hidden that thread as it has become boring and repetitive. I'm sure AmberWhatsherface is gloating. Whatever. She's always been at the top of my 'I wish I could hide posters' list anyway.

I was always like that bonkey but now we've switched to an artificial tree and moved house I don't get the urge as quickly.

So glad LT had a good day tee that must be such a relief!

I went out today, just to tescos as they have a huge sale on clothes and I just wanted a couple of bits for Lily that are pink. I felt ok, weirdly mourning the bump though and annoying myself with feeling that way. Lily is still lovely dps feeling a bit glum though as he misses me (aawww) because he's dealing with the big two and I've usually got lily feeding or in the sling, and for my comfort sleeping downstairs means we aren't sleeping together he just feels like although we are together we aren't spending time together, he's not being an arse about it just a bit kicked puppy, its nice to know he gives a shit though!

BonkeyMollocks Thu 27-Dec-12 22:32:15

Ok, its official!
State I blame you and your bundle of cuteness for the fact that I am suddenly incredibly broody! It actually hurts! hmm

BonkeyMollocks Thu 27-Dec-12 22:34:22

Actually, I felt this way this time last year....
Fecking christmas!

Sorry bonkey blush she is ridiculously cute though grin

I'm always bloody broody, I'm already jealous of pregnant people, no desire for another baby as I want to enjoy her as much as possible, can't explain it really!

BonkeyMollocks Thu 27-Dec-12 23:07:18

I have just read the bit about loving two...tears fell!

I go up and down which is why I can never commit too 'another one' . If I'm not 100% then I can't go there. Although atm I would steal yours wink

After I had ds we were convinced we'd only have him, then we got one hell of a suprise in dd. There age gap is what made us want another, just 16mnths, made me and dp feel like we lost the baby stages. Dp said no more though until we got another suprise that we lost to mmc at 14wks, so we then agreed ttc Lily. I often wonder though if dd hadn't appeared if wed just have one, not that I'd change a thing ofc, just curiosity.