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The Puddle!

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DreamySleepyBonfireNighty Mon 05-Nov-12 20:57:00

Happy Bonfire Night!

DreamySleepyBonfireNighty Mon 05-Nov-12 21:22:09

That is the cake I made last year for Ds1's bonfire party. <Proud>

Very nice dreamy

<Settles in to new thread, leaves doritoes and chocolate for all>

Shaky Mon 05-Nov-12 22:33:01

Ooh thanks for the Doritos state

<looks round>

Yep,it's nice here

<spots chocolate>

Fab cake Dreamy

<Rounds up the throws, cushions and bean bags and the hot tub and transports to this lovely, shiny new thread>

<collapses knackered>

BANGBonkeyMollocksBANG Mon 05-Nov-12 22:43:34

Bugger, lost you lot for abit! <panic>

The boy is finally asleep !

<noms cake>

EmpressOfTheSevenRomanCandles Mon 05-Nov-12 22:56:41

Fabulous cake, Dreamy.

Thanks for bringing everything over, Shaky.
<cuts Shaky piece of cake>

I hope everyone else finds us ok.

<relaxes on beanbag>

Bonkey, I've been meaning to ask for ages. Does your name rhyme with donkey or monkey?

BANGBonkeyMollocksBANG Mon 05-Nov-12 23:02:34

Empress I'm lost confused .

Swap the B&M around wink

EmpressOfTheSevenRomanCandles Mon 05-Nov-12 23:14:02

I know, that's what I mean! I think of you as Bonkey to rhyme with donkey but when you put the name together it should be Bonkey as in monkey...

BANGBonkeyMollocksBANG Mon 05-Nov-12 23:17:30

Ooooohhh, I'm bonkey like donkey in my head too grin

Monkey doesn't rhyme does it?

It was only meant to be a first letter switch, no monkey rhyme nessacary! grin

BANGBonkeyMollocksBANG Mon 05-Nov-12 23:18:03

I have a bleeding pig sad

I cut his nail to short sad

EmpressOfTheSevenRomanCandles Mon 05-Nov-12 23:22:50

I'm glad I had it right!

When you say pig....

BANGBonkeyMollocksBANG Mon 05-Nov-12 23:25:17

My Pig grin

Shaky Mon 05-Nov-12 23:34:37

Aww cute, I love guinea pigs.

Unfortunately I have the most evil cat ever. I have seen him eat a whole rabbit <boak>

showtunesgirl Mon 05-Nov-12 23:35:00

I need a digest of what's been going on?

I'm now in the No Man's Land of Working Mum (trademark pending) so can only MN when the boss isn't looking!

Shaky Mon 05-Nov-12 23:37:08

bonkey you will always be Monkey Bollocks in my head.

Shaky Mon 05-Nov-12 23:43:18

Show I got dressed up a a witch for Halloween, got pissed, had massive hangover.

Empress put a willy in the puddle

Screamy lost her aunty sad

State has got a shy baby that won't tell us the sex

Tee is having her mom over for a visit

Apologies if I missed anyone out

BANGBonkeyMollocksBANG Mon 05-Nov-12 23:51:20

Fucking hell blush

Iv'e done it to the other one too sad

EmpressOfTheSevenRomanCandles Tue 06-Nov-12 00:14:21

Looks pretty good to me, Shaky.

Are they bothered, Bonkey?

BANGBonkeyMollocksBANG Tue 06-Nov-12 00:27:47

BigPig squealed.
LittlePig true to bite me fucker that he is then went back to munching his parsley . grin

BANGBonkeyMollocksBANG Tue 06-Nov-12 00:28:07


Tee2072 Tue 06-Nov-12 07:00:06

Mom is driving me mad.

LittleTee had me up in the night. No school, GP today.

I hope he gets this out of his system before he starts real school next year. This is his 3rd sick day in 6 weeks.

Ah well, that's my boy! grin

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Tue 06-Nov-12 12:30:56

I also think of you as Bonkey to rhyme with donkey, Bonkey. Also, when we were talking about using your shettie as the donkey in the nativity, I got confused and thought your name was Donkey for a while… confused

Hope your Ds feels better soon Tee. These Puddle children should all have super immune systems soon!

Phew I'm back, left the crapberry at my mums this morning that was one dull afternoon.

EmpressOfTheSevenRomanCandles Tue 06-Nov-12 18:08:12

Did the fire brigade turn up, State?

How's LittleTee?

Eventually around 10.30/11ish I think it was, dp went out to walk the dog before bed and two engines were going fire to fire extinguishing them all, our estate has a main road that's a horse shoe shape with roads going straight off it running paralel to each other iyswim? Behind the gardens between each street is a large green, every one had a fire or two on. Welcome to shameless everybody!

EmpressOfTheSevenRomanCandles Tue 06-Nov-12 22:26:07

Just glad your house wasn't burned down!

DD has sea cadets Tuesday nights, the ritual is come in, get undressed, snack in bed - she's always ravenous and knackered.

Tonight I took her up a mini pizza and placed it on the bed while she faffed around hung her stuff up and chatted.

Next moment, still chatting, she sits down. On top of pizza.


grin oh dear, poor thing!

The fires happen every once in a while, we've reported 6 I think since moving here a year ago. We are leaving next year, house and school are lovely but it is an area of great idiocy.

Beware of the up coming whinge/rant it makes me sound an utterly selfish cowbag!

Dps Grandads funeral is booked for the day before dds birthday, dps family are all 100+ miles away. Dp is sulking 'as this means we can only go for the day' I understand this is a shitty time for him but its our daughters BIRTHDAY, and also where the actual fuck does he get off thinking we can just leave the children with my mum for as long as he wants? She has her own 7 and 4yos to look after and child minds a 7,3yo and 10mo! She's having them this weekend so we can go see everyone, she's having them whilst I'm in hospital having dc3, my Mums is 20+ miles away so they will have to be off school as she can't drive, if he had his way we may aswell drop them off and leave them there until christmas!
He's also arsey because he wants to 'be there' but as he's the driver and my hips are slowly giving up I really cannot do 3 x school runs on foot a day, also money is very tight, and last weeks visit to the ils resulted in our usual 2/3wks worth of fuel being used in 3 days because he's treated as a taxi/slave on top of the 200 odd mile round trip to get there and back. I'm also terrified of being here alone for too long due to issues with neighbours, and at night the constant noise makes me a nervous wreck, not helped by having no one nearby I know, nearest is my Mum and I can't get to her, nor her me.
They are a HUGE family, Grandad had 6 dcs, they all have 3+ dcs so there is a lot of help. He's making me feel so guilty and is being very snappy like its somehow my fault life means we can't just drop everything and go. He's such a martyr making himself feel worse than he needs too.
I'm barely sleeping atm which I expect at this stage of pregnancy so I'm very tearful and sensitive and instead of pulling together I feel like he's pushing me away and me and the dcs are a huge inconvenience.

EmpressOfTheSevenRomanCandles Wed 07-Nov-12 10:23:35

More embarrassed than anything else. While she showered I did her another pizza (and DIDN'T LAUGH).

<snuggles State>
<proffers warm cheese & bacon scones>

It's shitty but there's really not a lot you can do about it is there? I understand why he's unhappy but making you feel guilty about it isn't fair, it's not your fault. Rant as much as you like!

God that sounds awful in the cold light of day blush

<Lays out breakfast buffet of pastries, muffins and naice juices, switches on the coffee machine>

EmpressOfTheSevenRomanCandles Wed 07-Nov-12 10:26:33

State, it really doesn't! And much better to let it out on here.

X-posts empress I'd have seriously struggled not to laugh poor thing!

EmpressOfTheSevenRomanCandles Wed 07-Nov-12 10:31:18

It wasn't easy!

Let's have breakfast in the hot tub <decadent>grin

Sounds good <waddles over>

Well suprise suprise dps esa messed up again so no money this week, spent yesterday in and out of the jc talking to people finally got a call at 8.30am today saying it will be in the bank some time today <sighs> and my blooming dd has shot up and all her coats (she's inherited two and had two for christmas last year) which fitted nicely a few weeks ago look ridiculous, ditto hats. Asda had some lovely duffle coats in last time I was there fingers crossed they have some left! Ds otoh has worn the same parker since 2.6yo!!! He's blooming 5.4yo!

EmpressOfTheSevenRomanCandles Wed 07-Nov-12 10:39:43

<helps State into tub>

We've talked about putting bricks on DD's head in the past. I suspect her of standing in a grobag when we're not looking.

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Wed 07-Nov-12 11:06:04

Ds1 is a titch, I might try standing him in a grobag…

Baby dreamy has slept for 8 and a half hours straight the last 2 nights! The trade-off is that he's awake and very demanding all day, but I can cope with that if it means I get a good night's sleep. I can't get any housework done, but hey, I rarely do any anyway - at least I have an excuse for the mess now! grin

My auntie's funeral is on Tuesday. I think we'll have to take both Dc's with us, as I asked MIL if she could pick Ds1 up from school and put him to bed, and she snapped at me that we'd better not be late back as she has to be up early for work the next morning. I felt shit for asking her, and cried all the way home. blush The funeral is over 3 hours drive away, so we'll only be able to stay at the function after for half an hour if we're going to be back early enough for her. I'd rather take Ds with us than rush off, as I really want to be there. sad

EmpressOfTheSevenRomanCandles Wed 07-Nov-12 11:08:57

8 & a half hours! envy

I bet people will love to see your DCs there, Dreamy.

My dd has legs that go on forever, dps payments been sorted now so now ive got to hunt for a nice warm long girls coat and hat for her.

Sorry to hear your mil is being difficult dreamy my Mum is twitchy about what times I pick the dcs up, and isn't over joyed at me needing her on a school and work day but she understands the circumstances can't be avoided, our dcs weren't invited to family weddings so I can't imagine taking them to a funeral would go well at all in our case. Just went to the school to ask permission for them to take the day off got to wait for headmasters decission, they're not going whatever he sayes but I think its important to tell the school.

Tee2072 Wed 07-Nov-12 20:58:39

Evenin' Girls!

Had a successful day shopping with my mom and finally bought a new winter coat.

LittleTee is much better.

I still have the right President.

How is everyone?

Evening tee

Despite knowing naff all about politics and being in the UK I was very relieved to hear he'd got 4 more years.

I had the evening from hell with the dcs, I had to go to 3 shops, just 3 shops and they were feral, and vile, and loud. I ended up crying in asda cafe. But dd has a lovely dusky pink duffle coat and is warm. --although the amount her and ds upset me they're lucky I didn't use the money to buy cake and stick them in bin bags!--

I wanted a new winter coat but smuggling a beachball would make shopping a pita, so next year when ill have lost all the baby weight --hahahhahaahha or ate loadsa cake while stuck under a bfing baby--

Shaky Wed 07-Nov-12 22:17:09

Congrats on still having the right president Tee
I do actually quite fancy him don't tell anyone

<snuggles State>

I am shock shock shock at the quote we had for blinds for the conservatory today. His original quote was £17K!!!!! Seriously, I shit you not! When dp picked me up from my faint he went down to £8k then £4k for just the windows but would still be another £7k for the roof!!
How can some blinds cost more than the frigging building! He also said we would get 10% discount if we took out their finance but would not tell me the interest rate even though I asked 3 times. I was very hmm and he was very pissed off when he left because we said we were going to look at some local companies before making a decision.

Seriously, th blinds weren't even made of gold with diamonds on or anything, £11k for some blinds!!!!

<faints again>

I wonder what would happen if I put this in AIBU " to not want to may more than the price of my conservatory for some fecking blinds?" I suspect I would be eaten alive, I am no where near brave stupid enough grin

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans Wed 07-Nov-12 22:42:42

Congrats from me too, Tee. Huuuuuuge relief.

<snuggles everyone>
<puts big bag of pic n mix on table>

Dreamy's becoming an MN celebrity on the thread for not well known MNers in Chat. grin

Shaky Wed 07-Nov-12 23:00:07

Is she? <sneaks off to look>

Shaky Wed 07-Nov-12 23:01:42

<runs back to grab fistful of pick & mix>

Yum, thanks Empress

Mmmm pick n mix. <Settles down>

shaky stay away from aibu grin you'd drown under 'is that all you have to worry about" comments. Fwiw I'd have fainted at that, utterly ridiculous, do they hop down and give you a shoulder massage everytime you sit down?

Shaky Wed 07-Nov-12 23:33:16

I would have thought that they would at least wash up and do the ironing for that price. The bloke had a face like thunder when he left.

I have never been suicidal enough to post in AIBU!

My first even post on mumsnet was in aibu, about ils and a wedding. I was eaten alive! I had to run away recover and nc.

I post in aibu every once in a while, but am careful what I post <delicate>

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans Thu 08-Nov-12 00:33:22

Was your Minnie Mouse thread in AIBU? That was a runaway success!

If anything I think the Puddle is the opposite of AIBU. People go to AIBU to fight and come here to snuggle.

Shaky Thu 08-Nov-12 00:41:05

Maybe when I've been here another 20 years or so I'll be brave enough to start a thread there. For now I'm just content to sit back and read the bunfight. Keeps me quiet for AGES!

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans Thu 08-Nov-12 00:44:44

I love a good bunfight grin

Tee2072 Thu 08-Nov-12 06:10:46

I have been slaughtered on AIBU more than once. It's not fun.

shaky shock For that price it needs to do all the housework, give you massages and cook gourmet meals. And, honestly, if a workman left my house angry because I said I had to get other quotes? He'd automatically be off my list, no matter his price!

Go Dreamy! I avoid those sorts of threads. I hope this one is nice.

LittleTee has his preschool jabs after school today. I have not told him. We are going to lunch first and, weather permitting, the park. Do you think I should tell him he's going to get a shot? ::frets::

BonkeyMollocks Thu 08-Nov-12 09:52:49

I have also had a pounding on AIBU , for saying i didn't like it when a checkout person licked their fingers when opening bags. I still think IWNBU.

I may well get a pounding later when I can hold back no more 'AIBU to call another kid a little shit and to stay the fuck away from my ds so he can breathe!'

Bad bad morning, resulted in me now in tears and a load full of mummy guilt sad

Cake gate was in chat empress now in classics <preens> along with my car dwelling neighbours. I knew I spent too much time here when I made it into classics twice.

How long has every one been on mn? I joined when dd was a screamy newborn so heading towards four years I believe, but she screamed for her whole first year so it could be just 3. I've only been SoC for 10months though.

shaky I enjoy reading the bun fights too blushgrin I did join a p+t parking thread the other day, I was incandescent and very hormonal though.

tee I told dd after ds being majorly annoyed I didn't tell him. She was fine, but the nurse had pretty stickers and I'd bribed her with a lolly.

Eeeww bonkey yanbu <loves self service tills>

I'll join you in the 'little shit' brigade, if a certain boy hits my dd once more at nursery, every day this week, and before the holiday too. I'm tripping him up at pick up later, reasonable, yes I thought so.

BonkeyMollocks Thu 08-Nov-12 10:05:28

2 boys just won't leave my poor ds alone, he is fine, happy jumping around, as soon as they come over they can't get bloody close enough. Ds tries to move away they get closer, ds gets all sad and quiet. the main shit, will hit/puch/bite/jump on heads of anyone else who tries to be frineds with him, therefore I think they have stopped trying. Two boys ds loves won't go near him when main shit is around! sad
I don't know what to do. Am going to speak to his teacher later. Poor thing didn't want me to go today after the reading sad I have never had problems with him clinging sad

I will push for him to move class if i have too, don't want to but what the fuck else can I do??

<grabs more tissues>

State would you like me to direct said child in your direction? wink Some kids are fuckers, and some parents are too bloody soft

Oh bonkey I would just loose it dealing with that, poor littlebonkey.

He was removed for two days last term, but it seems dd and her friend are his target. He's polish, our school has a large amount of polish children but after ds' reception year and so far dds time in nursery the boys appear to be a lot more 'hands on' with very indulgent Mums. I'm getting to a stage where I'd approach the mum but she speaks no english so the teacher has to wait for a polish ta to help whenever there is an issue, and the Ta can't be available daily to say "your brat son hit the same two girls AGAIN"
I lost it yesterday and told her to hit him back, she's a right fire cracker at home and has no anxiety over squaring up to me or dp, but she won't as she doesn't want to go on the naughty chair. Its fecking exhausting this parenting lark.

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Thu 08-Nov-12 11:17:01

Oh poor little Bonkey and little State. sad I'm just dreading something like that, there's always going to be a bully and it makes me feel sick thinking about my boys being a target. Hope it all gets resolved for them.

I think I've been a member here since 2010 State, but I remember reading the boards in 2009 when ds1 was born.

Don't know what was up before - MN wasn't letting me post. I tried a few times, then tried a different browser, then panicked that every time I posted it was actually posting and I just couldn't see it for some reason, so might have spammed the boards with multiple posts! I think its all ok though...

BonkeyMollocks Thu 08-Nov-12 11:26:24

I joined Sep last year. Lurked for a while, got a flaming, namechanged lots then got stuck back in. Bonkey has stuck since April! grin

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Thu 08-Nov-12 11:32:09

My profile says Feb 2010.

Ds2 is having his first injection today. sad

BonkeyMollocks Thu 08-Nov-12 11:46:02

Hope he's ok Dreamy !

Started a thread about shit and ds, I need more views....part of me thinks I'm being silly and over protected, part of me thinks I have a case confused

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Thu 08-Nov-12 12:32:00

Found your thread Bonkey, but I really don't know what I would do other than talk to the teacher. <Helpful> sad See what he/she suggests and hopefully it can be sorted without littlebonkey having to move classes. <hugs>

Hope baby dreamy and little tee get on ok with there jabs.

Dds nursery do supervise quite closely but this lad seems quite persistant. She's not that phased fortunatly so I try not to worry.

The countdown to baby states started dps just fixed the chest of drawers so I now need to fold and organise lots of tiny white clothes, and the prams in from the garage to be cleaned, new mattress arrived a few weeks ago can't wait to use it, only used the buggy part for dd but its got a lovely carrycot on, something I missed when dd was born, she had one on the double but it was small --and she'd only go in the carseat without screaming--

Hope baby dreamy and little tee get on ok with there jabs.

Dds nursery do supervise quite closely but this lad seems quite persistant. She's not that phased fortunatly so I try not to worry.

The countdown to baby states started dps just fixed the chest of drawers so I now need to fold and organise lots of tiny white clothes, and the prams in from the garage to be cleaned, new mattress arrived a few weeks ago can't wait to use it, only used the buggy part for dd but its got a lovely carrycot on, something I missed when dd was born, she had one on the double but it was small --and she'd only go in the carseat without screaming--

<Leaves some jam and some custard doughnuts for everyone>

BonkeyMollocks Thu 08-Nov-12 16:18:05

Well, spoke to ds's teacher, she knew.

She asked ds how he felt, he said "When we were at a party I hid in the tunnel so the boy couldn't find me" Teacher: "Did you not want him to find you?" Ds:"No" sad sad sad

She said that she would try and get the boy to back off a bit and be less intense....we shall wait and see how things go!

Does not solve my party invite dilemma though. I shall prepare myself to be the bitch of the playground hmm

BonkeyMollocks Thu 08-Nov-12 16:18:34

<puts packet mix bat cakes on the table>

<and lots of wine>

bonkey don't feel bad, there's no way any dc who was mean to either of my two would get an invite. Ds was in a class of 15 at preschool and I invited 10, no one batted an eyelid.

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans Thu 08-Nov-12 17:36:44

What State said, Bonkey. I hope the teacher gets somewhere.

I'm glad your DD isn't too phased, State. It's horrible when that stuff starts.

How were the jabs, Tee and Dreamy!

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Thu 08-Nov-12 17:44:07

Glad your dd is coping well State.

Definitely don't worry about not inviting him to the party Bonkey. It's your Ds's party, so if he doesn't want him there then that's that.

Injection was ok. He screamed a lot, but calmed down quickly after when I gave him a feed. He's very sleepy now though. I had the depo injection today too. I haven't had it before - boy does my ass sting now!

Shaky Thu 08-Nov-12 21:59:35

Aw poor mini state and mini Bonkey, I bloody hate bullies.

I wouldn't worry too much about not inviting him to the party, it your ds day so in my mind his wishes would come first.

Dreamy, I hated takin ds for his jabs, it awful isn't it.

<leaves big tub of haribos and mini crunchies and curly worly's >

Shaky Thu 08-Nov-12 22:00:15

I'm sure these curly worly's were bigger when I were a lass

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Thu 08-Nov-12 22:03:33

They were also chewier. I had one recently and it was far too soft. sad Why do they mess with good things? If it aint broke, etc etc.

They are smaller! But what gets me the most is 17p freddos! They were 10p!

<Hands round dairy milk>

I'm buried in the argos book, 3 for 2 is back tomorrow, apparently. And I have two nerf targets to buy so attempting to sort my sister too, she apparently wants monster high, I'm clueless, have put a plee for help in chat I'm so confused!

Shaky Thu 08-Nov-12 22:30:11

In our house we call the Argos catalogue "the book of dreams", it is one of my favourite pastimes, browsing through it, circling the things I like, leaving book open on appropriate page, sulking when I never receive circled gifts.

Shaky Thu 08-Nov-12 22:33:13

State the price of Freddos is outrageous.

But I can remember when a bag of chips was 25p and crisps cost 10p.

But I am old now.

25p for chips, its bloody £1.50 here for a small!

No ones helping me in chat <whines>

I'm watching the inbetweeners film, I feel old.

Shaky Thu 08-Nov-12 22:41:52

OI, you lot! While we have been gallivanting on the unknown thread, people have noticed us and we might be getting visitors soon!

I'll be getting the dust buster out again in the morning, not now though, I'm too comfy under this duvet. <sets alarm for 9.00 after I have taken ds to nursery>.

It's a good job this is a new shiny thread, won't take long to spruce up. and not my place which is still covered in cobwebs from Halloween

Shaky Thu 08-Nov-12 22:43:01

Wassup State?

Trying to found out about these monster high dolls for my sister, no ones replying and I'm clueless!

Shaky Thu 08-Nov-12 22:53:06

Oh sorry, I'm clueless too confused

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans Thu 08-Nov-12 23:24:58

You don't need the dustbuster, Shaky - I borrowed a super powered Miele from Good Housekeeping, it should still be around somewhere. I hope the guests bring cake.

Not heard of them, State, but I'll see if I can find anything out.

Shaky Thu 08-Nov-12 23:36:54

Nice one Empress wine

I'm sorted now, the 'top' dolls are also on sale so I have one reserved smile

I'm a bit soft on my baby sister incase you hadn't noticed --and my mum may have said no about the dolls <whistles>-- but dear Mum is buying my ds african land snails for christmas because he desperatly wants a pet and I said nothing with fur or teeth, and I don't like fish, trust her to find a loop hole!

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Fri 09-Nov-12 13:50:31

African land snails! Wow, that's a very clever way to get around your criteria!

It is, I'm actually ok with it, they're very easy to care for just chuck the compost out once a month and refill tank, bung a cuttle fish in and any odds and ends of veg and some fruit, live for years, don't smell and they can't run away or harm you. Perfect for a 5yo boy I think!

Got dsis her doll, they're creepy, dd went loopy when she saw it because if Charley likes it it must be cool. Argos 3 for 2 was back on so got dbro the nerf gun and target set, and got one of them free for my cousins birthday this weekend, sorted smile

I've just made a huge pot of leek and potato soup <offers round with crusty rolls>, house smells interesting now though!

Me and dp are off to see the ils for the day tomorrow my Mums having the dcs as its going to be a hard visit, we had planned to go see his Grandad but reality is going to hit dp while we are miles away it doesn't seem real to him, I'm rather anxious about it all, its 2yr anniversary of loosing my Grandma next week so I'm wibbly anyway.

BonkeyMollocks Fri 09-Nov-12 17:22:09

<helps self to soup>

Ds came home in a better mood today. Did say that the shit kicked him though but he told the teacher and shit got told off.

Snails creep me out <shudder>

Tee2072 Fri 09-Nov-12 18:14:03

AAARRRGGHHHHHHH he doesn't need his big cost and a hat and mittens and a scarf!!!!! It's 12 FUCKING DEGREES OUT THERE!!!!!!!

Thanks. I feel better now.

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Fri 09-Nov-12 18:43:33

Anytime Tee! grin

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Fri 09-Nov-12 18:44:31

Glad your Ds had a better day Bonkey. Hope it carries on getting better. smile

BonkeyMollocks Fri 09-Nov-12 18:47:33

So do I dreamy , bloody stressful although being hormonal does NOT help . hmm

Everything alright Tee ? grin

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Fri 09-Nov-12 19:57:42

Don't forget the head tilt! wink

Tee are you having parent related issues?

Hope your ds' teacher sorts things bonkey I'm getting fed up now of dd recounting what the shit bag in her class is doing and telling her teacher every morning and getting the same response, just because dd is not upset doesn't mean its ok!!!

BonkeyMollocks Fri 09-Nov-12 21:52:17

I would speak to someone else State , if they obviously aren't doing anything say you will go higher up if they can't do their job properly or kick the little sod .

Its what I will do if I have too, although <touches wood> today was ok, so lets hope thats it!

Mind you, may need a drink before hand, not very confrontational me, but I have the 'I will do anything for my child' drive thing including kicking the little bugger grin that all mums must get, Iv'e never really had to step up to it before. grin

Tee2072 Fri 09-Nov-12 22:33:28

OMG. 10 days with my mother is about 5 days too many.

And she doesn't leave until Wednesday.

But we did enjoy Calendar Girls at the theatre tonight.

I will try to be less self centred and catch up with everyone tomorrow!

I had the real urge to give this boy a kick or trip him, I blamed the pregnancy everyoneannoystheshitoutofme phase I'm in. grin I've spoke to the main teacher and two nursery nurses but there are 3 helpers too, ill make them all aware.

Thing is I do know how hard 3/4yos are my dd is a firecracker and when in one of her moods nothing less than a straight jacket and cage will prevent her from giving her target a swipe, but its always been instigated, whereas this boy seems to just simply dislike her and her friend. Maybe its because they're so pretty and clever --and he is not--

<Hands round midget gems and pringles>

Shaky Fri 09-Nov-12 22:35:56

Anyone else think MN is bonkers tonight?

Someone escaped from the drunk thread and is swearing at everyone, including MNHQ shock

Usual is having a nervous breakdown.

BonkeyMollocks Fri 09-Nov-12 22:53:08

Theres a right judgy moo in AIBU yesterday and today. I left, I can't be doing with people like that!

<snaffles pringles>

I have wine again anyone?

Shaky Fri 09-Nov-12 23:00:21

Your tipsy fingers were funny last night Bonkey

I have wine too again blush

<clinks glasses>

I have been PMSL on here tonight grin

Shaky Fri 09-Nov-12 23:06:25

Bonkey have you just been accused of having a stick up your arse!?! shock

BonkeyMollocks Fri 09-Nov-12 23:07:46

I have been accused of worse at times Shaly grin

BonkeyMollocks Fri 09-Nov-12 23:08:00

Ahem....Shaky !

I saw the thread in chat having a bitch at olivia, I walked away, I've no time for it.

The next thread I clicked was about a women who died shagging a dog.

Then I gave up and loitered in my threads I'm on as its safe there!

Shaky Fri 09-Nov-12 23:09:59

Tis hilarious though, she just went totally off on one with no provocation. usual is mortified

Shaky Fri 09-Nov-12 23:10:55

I saw that one too state I ran away FAST!

Morning all!!

Where is everyone today?

We've just brought baby states carseat and base, feels a bit real now confused they're much more complicated than they were when dd was a baby!

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans Sat 10-Nov-12 15:43:05

Have you seen the one in AIBU about the 19yr old PFB?

It's my granny's 90th on Saturday. She wants a purple Thinsulate hat so today I was out looking for one and a birthday card.

With the whole of North London to look through, you'd think it would be easy.


FINALLY found a card that said Granny instead of Grandma or Nanna or Nan. Still not found the hat. A bloke who was wearing one told me he got it at Brixton Market, which is conveniently on my way to work, so that's the next place to try...

<starts coffee machine>
<gets whisky>

BonkeyMollocks Sat 10-Nov-12 17:57:08

Evening all.

Ds is driving me LOOPY!

State Not long now! <excited to see if I was right> wink

Empress Re. cards I cannot recommend having a nosey round the FB craft pages enough, there is some amazing stuff out there all handmade. I have turned into a pro handmade hippy person in the space of a month wink .

<pours self whisky>

I've not seen that one empress I've stayed in threads I'm on mainly, can't deal with the crazy. Good luck finding the hat!

I'm getting slightly nervous but still verry excited, 34wks today, and elcs pencilled for 38/9wks get official date on 29th!! Had to belt the carseat and base into the car as the boxes were stupidly HUGE and we were picking up mil and gmil. We've got a multipla so dc3 will travel middle seat up front (all checked and ok to do so with airbags off) its most surreal having a baby seat there!

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Sat 10-Nov-12 20:10:40
EmpressOfTheSevenOceans Sat 10-Nov-12 22:17:19

THANK YOU DREAMY. Have a look State, it's hilarious in a twisted post of way. Hope LittleBonkey calmed down.

Tee2072 Sun 11-Nov-12 09:58:30

Morning all!

Well, thanks to the impending Spanish General Strike on Wednesday, Mom is leaving Monday instead. Not sure I'm sad about that...

Empress that thread was bonkers!

The one attacking Olivia or whatever it was, was even more bonkers!

I hope all the poorly PuddleDwellers are better today. We actually have some sun so I'm about to sort some washing to hang out!

I hope to be a better PuddleDweller soon!!!!


::apple tart and whipped cream appears on side board::

BonkeyMollocks Sun 11-Nov-12 10:27:41

<stands in amazement at Tees magical 'food appearing powers'>

<realised that she can't face anything more than toast and red bull because she is under the weather hungover >

Tee I have a question thats been bugging me for ages , whats the 2072 for in your name?? Is it random? Some great meaning? Code? Personal?

<itches to find out>

BonkeyMollocks Sun 11-Nov-12 10:28:06

<thinks I loved the creepy wee brackets a tad to much today>

Morning all,

<Ushers poorly puddlers into her own living room> the dcs slept at my Mums last night, I can hear myself breathing its so quiet!!

We didn't get home from the ils until 2am last night, I slept most of the way home but I do not feel great today! Anyway its my cousins 12th birthday party later so I best drag myself off my silent sofa and got fetch the munchkins, I have missed them, kind of wink

Shaky Sun 11-Nov-12 21:03:58

Silence is golden State!

It was indeed.

Spent the afternoon at my aunts for my cousins birthday, 11 dcs ranging from nearly 4 upto 14yo and 10 adults it was loud! I'm exhausted now after such a hectic day yesterday, I think pregnancy has finally got me, not bad keeping my usual pace for 34wks though.

All of you who liked peanut butter kitkats need to try the peanut lion bars, sil got me 8 after hearing me go on about the kitkats, the lion bars are goood.

Shaky Sun 11-Nov-12 21:22:06

I bet you are shattered State you have done brilliantly and not much longer to go. I can't wait to meet JesusState

I can't bear peanut butter <boak>

I am really excited, although the nerves do set in from time to time, having the carseat in the car made it all real, it is now in the house but we strapped it in to transport it.

I'm off shopping with my Mum tuesday for final hospital bag bits then I'm going to pack it, its highly unlikely but ds was delivered at 37wks after the 36wk scan showing he hadn't grown enough, so in my head I have to be done and ready for that scan.

I don't like peanut butter either but in a chocolate bar this pregnancy I've been obsessed!

BonkeyMollocks Sun 11-Nov-12 22:19:25

I didn't even get to shop or pack my hospital bag, ds came two days before I had planned to do it sod , I feel deprived wink

Had to send dh out to get everything, loves the images in my head of him buying breast pads and maternity towels grin

Breast pads I have, maternity towels I prefer to pretend that side of having a newborn doesn't exist grin

I know it may sound pathetic but I'm worrying this dc won't take to bfing, or it will be really hard after it being so easy with dd for nearly a year, I'd set my heart on doing it.

BonkeyMollocks Sun 11-Nov-12 22:30:24

No help there, I bottle fed...

How is your hospital/midwives with breastfeeding support?

Ds was mix fed for a while then bottle fed, dd it was luck, and one midwife who made time to show me some posistions and give me lansinoh, mws didn't seem to give a fig how I fed at all, when I was concerned about how much dd was getting I was told if I was anxious I could offer bottles after a bf so they weren't too supportive but I'm in a different area now, same hospital but different team who do home visits. My mum and aunt are very supportive and knowledgable, and dp backs what ever I choose to do, but I'm being daft and worrying.

BonkeyMollocks Mon 12-Nov-12 09:32:53

<collapses on sofa>

Just got ds to school on time. Monkey chose as school morning to have a extra sleep and the morning my alarm didn't go off.

Woke up by dh at 8.35 shock , am rather chuffed with myself that I managed to get him to school for just gone nine!

Coffee anyone? brew

Tee2072 Mon 12-Nov-12 10:59:45


Horrendous morning with LittleTee throwing a strop about not getting to watch one last cartoon after getting into his uniform. He lost the privileged when he pooed in his pants 3 minutes after he got off the potty. hmm So last cartoon time was taken up with bottom cleaning time. Then he didn't want his coat and insisted it wasn't raining. So I opened the front door to show him different. Then he cried because it was raining. I could not win today.

We managed to make it to school on time as well, Bonkey, but just barely!

Mom and Step Dad off on the next leg of their journey. Nice to see them. Better to see them go. grin

State LittleTee was a scheduled CS and I think I packed my bag the day before I was scheduled to go in! So well done you!! I also can't offer any BF advice as I had no milk and bottle fed.

I should be doing a million and one things. brew?

BonkeyMollocks Mon 12-Nov-12 11:39:47

Urgh, hate mornings like that Tee !

Awful morning here too, rushed round getting them both ready as they slept in an hour longer than usual, took 3 attempts to get dds hair presentable and tight --to keep the beasties out-- lost a school shoe, the usual, dp ran them there in the car as there's no way I could get myself ready aswell at my snail pace. Ds starts at 8.40 and dd 8.50.
He'd just got back had a cup of tea and nursery ring stating dd isn't well... So back he goes. Dd has a cough yes, but dd used this to come home as her best friend was off sick... Dd has been a bit quiet but dd is fine watching dvds and taking advantage of being home when she shouldn't be!

tee I packed my bag with ds about 6hrs before I arrived at the hospital, can't remember doing dds at all I must have though. But this time I've turned into a mad women who must be organised and prepared, that said I will more than likely unpack, repack a stupid amount of times.

Dp is being mildly more insane and said we should leave the carseat base strapped in 'incase' I actually laughed at him I'm flaming huge and I leant into the middle seat and belted that in tightly in a minute, I did explain leaving the hospital takes hours anyway and to calm down! I'm starting to wonder if he remembers anything!

If any of you remember things that were really useful in your bag let me know, im taking my own pillow this time for sure!

Anyway I'm off to make cream of tomato soup, ill bring some back for you all smile

Tee2072 Mon 12-Nov-12 13:53:35

Rest of the morning not much better. Saw mom and step dad off, went back to pick up LittleTee...who proceeded to more or less cry or scream the whole way home. I am exhausted...

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans Tue 13-Nov-12 13:13:01

How is everyone today? <sets freshly baked bread and cheese out to go with State's cream of tomato soup>
Tee, hope you had a chance to recover from yesterday morning.

BonkeyMollocks Tue 13-Nov-12 14:31:12

Ds is off school again. Wheezy and a horrible cough. Doc said hes clear in his chest but if it last longer than a few days to get a appointment with the GP to check him for mild asthma <--- No idea how long it took me to spell that!

Am knackered!

Afternoon all, I am officially to pregnant for words. Went shopping with my Mum today and spent more time in cafes/coffee shops or hunting for seats in shops I am shattered! I was planning to get the bus home, it goes direct from town centre to my road, but couldn't face it so we got a taxi to Mums and dp is coming to get me later. <Collapses in armchair>

Get well soon bonkeyboy xxx

BonkeyMollocks Tue 13-Nov-12 14:59:38

Thanks State , hes fine just wheezy and tired.

Hope your ok, I hated about this time! Couldn't walk anywhere without sitting down every 5 mins, fat legs, fat hands , fat face from too much water....I was very relieved when ds came at just gone 35 weeks , i think I may have killed someone had I gone full term hmm

I'm ok now felt totally wrecked earlier, I had an hours peace on my own while Mum did the school run so caught up with teen mom on mtv <saddo> and put my feet up. I've also been introduced to tightenings and braxton hicks today, never ever had them with ds or dd, they're nasty fuckers!
I'm 34+3wks and not really looking forward to the next month!

But I'm all organised got dds last birthday presents, nice babygrows for dc3 and odds and ends for my hospital bag.

<Offers round rocky road pudding and black forest desert>

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans Tue 13-Nov-12 20:47:22

Glad you're feeling better, State. Mmmmmm thank you.

<puts down jug of iced water with glasses, starts coffee machine, drops onto sofa for snuggles>

It's insane out there at the moment and it's not even a full moon!

Tee2072 Tue 13-Nov-12 20:52:42

Hi all.

I'm feeling crap. I hope everyone else is better.

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans Tue 13-Nov-12 21:06:16

<Wraps Tee in duvet, puts pillow behind head, offers whisky>

What's up?

showtunesgirl Tue 13-Nov-12 21:07:15

<crawls into the Puddle> I feel like shit too. Sodding cold.

<Drags in more pillows and throws>

showtunesgirl Tue 13-Nov-12 21:12:39

I would hug you State but I'm germ city. Can you please make a pillow barrier. I want to protect you all.

BonkeyMollocks Tue 13-Nov-12 21:19:10

<piles up pillows>

Show How are you apart from the germs?

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans Tue 13-Nov-12 21:23:13

<hands Show hot whisky and lemon>
<distributes hot water bottles>

Poor you.

I've just been on the racism thread. Mad as a box of frogs about sums it up.

BonkeyMollocks Tue 13-Nov-12 21:31:41

I'm sticking here, i ventured out the other day on a age gap thread. there was a right twat in there! hmm

Tee2072 Tue 13-Nov-12 21:42:15

Major fibro flare. If I didn't have work to do I'd be in bed. As it is I'm just heading home from a gig and have to work all day tomorrow.

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans Tue 13-Nov-12 22:06:59

<proffers TENS machine>

showtunesgirl Tue 13-Nov-12 22:24:43

Which thread is that?

I'm ok despite the germage. DD is all good at the CM. My temp job is really boring though.

And at the mo, I seem to have one of those Magic Sleeping Babies!

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans Wed 14-Nov-12 02:19:47

This one. Gloriously bonkers.

showtunesgirl Wed 14-Nov-12 07:30:41

Shit. That thread only had two pages when I last looked at it. I kept thinking xenophobic, NOT racist. I hate it when people mix them up!

I think I have another day in bed ahead of me so I'll read through it later.

Tee2072 Wed 14-Nov-12 07:46:20

I left that thread as soon as HQ was accused of not jumping when the poster said hop.

Honestly, this site gets 2.4m hits a month. Cut them some slack!

Is it Friday yet? Cuz I'm spending Friday in bed. And maybe Saturday also.

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans Wed 14-Nov-12 08:22:37

The xenophobic point's been made, Show, and the op agreed to go and find out the difference.

That wasn't the main argument, though. Not when it became apparent that the OP was objecting to A calling B 'mad as a box of frogs'. And they considered it to be 'racism' because at some point on ANOTHER thread, B had mentioned that their DCs were in the French school system, and naturally A would have searched, found this out and picked an
insult accordingly.

Last time I looked the thread had moved on to offended badgers and licking hallucinogenic toads.
<puts kettle on>

showtunesgirl Wed 14-Nov-12 08:51:25

Eh, mad as a box of frogs is a fecking expression. That's like saying: "pot, kettle, black" is racist! confused

showtunesgirl Wed 14-Nov-12 08:52:41

What's up Tee? You not feeling well either?

I am in my cow print fleecy nightie and fluffy slippers and don't care anymore about how I look. I have buckets of snot everywhere. I guess at least I have clean hair this morning? <vain attempt at vanity>

Morning all,

I just read 14 pages of the mad breastfeeding thread, everyone knows any bf/ff thread goes Raaaaah on here! What's going on atm? Mumsnets crazy.

Sorry to hear everyones feeling rubbish <offers round blankets, pillows, tea, coffee and smoothies> I'm just totally exhausted today, I got up and got the dc ready for school and asked dp to take them but I'm now back in bed.

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans Wed 14-Nov-12 09:06:35

Mad breastfeeding thread?

<puts more coals on fire>

showtunesgirl Wed 14-Nov-12 09:07:40

This one OP does get pretty offensive though.

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans Wed 14-Nov-12 10:48:39

So I see. Blimey.

BonkeyMollocks Wed 14-Nov-12 11:35:13

The sun has just shined on my Laptop, I am shock at how dirty it is blush .

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans Wed 14-Nov-12 12:00:41

I know the feeling Bonkey!

BonkeyMollocks Wed 14-Nov-12 12:06:05

How are you Empress ?

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans Wed 14-Nov-12 12:10:18

Ok, thanks, Bonkey.

Got my DGM's 90th birthday party this Saturday near Brighton, really looking forward to it grin

How are you & is Bonkeyboy better?

BonkeyMollocks Wed 14-Nov-12 12:16:35

BonkeyBoy is still coughing and wheezy but he is at school! He slept last night from 5.50 until 8.10 this morning shock .

I'm good, putting off doing my jobs for today with MN grin

90? Thats a grand old age!

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans Wed 14-Nov-12 12:29:55

Great about BonkeyBoy!

Yes, she's pretty amazing.

<puts out homemade pizzas, garlic bread & salad>


showtunesgirl Wed 14-Nov-12 12:45:25

Thanks for the offer Empress but I'm just wondering if I should pop out for a quick jaunt to get some air and maybe some Vietnamese soup noodles. <ponders>.

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans Wed 14-Nov-12 12:59:29

Fresh air might do you good, Show.

I should have stayed in bed sad

Just had a funny turn in sainsburys, dd was messing around and stressing me out and dp kept letting her push the trolley into things I took it away and she stomped off, for a split second we couldn't find her, I heard dp talking to her and everything just went black there was a wooshing in my ears, I felt dizzy and was gagging.
I hadn't eaten breakfast today I just forgot, I never miss breakfast, just nabbed a few biscuits before going to fetch dd, dp just went apeshit at me, really didn't help, he's made me lunch and I'm on the sofa, feel better but exhausted again.

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans Wed 14-Nov-12 13:40:32

<snuggles State>
I bet it didn't help, but sounds like he's worried about you. Stay where you are & have a rest.

BonkeyMollocks Wed 14-Nov-12 13:43:35

aww State how are you feeling now?

I agree he is probably just worried about you doesn't excuse him for being a arse though .

Feel better now, just really tired which is ridiculous as I had 8/9hrs last night and a 30/40min nap earlier.

I just want to sort things out and organise but also just want to lay down watching crap tv and mning and I feel irritable. Also totally off food, don't fancy anything even when I'm hungry.

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans Wed 14-Nov-12 14:06:47

What if you decide you're going to lie down for an hour, then get up & do stuff?

showtunesgirl Wed 14-Nov-12 14:06:48

How about something easy to eat like soup?

Just approaching soup noodle place myself.

Rather excitingly, just saw on FB that my BIL is having lunch with Seb Coe!

Think that's a good idea, I've not got up since I got home so I'm feeling a bit brighter, going to get up and go in the car to fetch ds, I think heinz tomatoe soup is the way to go, we have some nice fresh rolls in the kitchen. Think I just need to realise I'm pregnant and need to slow down, I was 18 when pregnant with ds and he was a small boy and had boundless energy, things are different this time I need to pace myself more.

Thanks for listening to me whinge, it really scared me. X

<Offers round fruit pastilles>

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Wed 14-Nov-12 21:03:42

How are you now, State?

Good, had ds' parents evening and he's doing fantastically, have ate little and often and the soup was good, feel far more human now, still a bit tired so going to give my MW a ring tomorrow as I'm meant to be seeing her anyway on tues but its dps grandads funeral so I need to reschedule.

Its a week until my dds 4th Birthday!!

How's everyone else doing?

How are you and DW doing now empress? How's bonkeyboy today?
Where's shaky?
dreamys new pics of her gorgeous boys on fb have made me even more broody!

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Wed 14-Nov-12 21:25:54

Don't know whether we'll last or not but we're trying! Shaky's around somewhere, I'm sure I've seen her today.

Is your DD excited?

Hope whichever way it goes its best for you all, relationships are bloody hard work aren't they!

Dd is SO excited its unreal, she's been speaking about her birthday since we started talking about ds' and his birthday was in July. Not that she's asked for anything in particular just presents, please, haha!

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Wed 14-Nov-12 21:54:13

Bloody hard!

Hope she has fun, I'm sure she will.

She will, although if she stays true to form she becomes a total diva the whole day, she started ay 1yo and had gradually got worse, not in an awful way just a bit of its my birthday I deserve to be treated like the queen for the day.
It was nice her not giving strict instructions on what she wanted, when asked she just said she likes pink and fairys, princesses and babys. <Hands in mumsnet badge> My daughters a girly girl and I encourage it. blush

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Wed 14-Nov-12 22:11:30

Nowt wrong with being a girly girl as long as she's doing it because she wants to!

Oh yes very much so, I never put her in much pink clothes wise but she begged this year for a pink coat and I figured it didn't matter, ds wanted black and I went with it. And she's no issue with getting said pink coat covered in mud... She also spends hours with her hotwheels cars there's currently a convoy on her bedroom floor I must NOT touch, its in equal measure her girly-ness to her eating playdough, messing in the dirt and playing with cars smile

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Wed 14-Nov-12 22:27:01

When DD was that age she'd insist on going out in her pink fairy dress... over her Thomas the Tank Engine costume & wellies!

My dd is rather fond of her wellies too, usually ds' cast offs as she covets them, she is counting down the days until he's too big for the yellow jcb ones, they'll match her belle from beauty and the beast dress she tells me haha!

She also LOVES boys hoodies, its like having a teenager, she's a sod for pinching ds', my brothers and cousins hoodies and then getting them filthy!

Tee2072 Thu 15-Nov-12 06:23:12

Morning all.

One more day to get more day to get through...and now I have a dry throat cough on top of being in pain from head to foot. I actually took some of LittleTee's cough medicine last night as I had none for adults. Worked though!

State you do need to pace yourself. Remember, you're building a whole person in there! Probably making eyelashes or something right now! Glad you're feeling better.

Empress I have been wondering about your and DW. I hope things are going okay.

I always act like a queen on my birthday. It's what birthdays are for!

Urgh. Small boy up. Time to start my day for real...

showtunesgirl Thu 15-Nov-12 09:53:35

Morning all, bad start to the day. DH took forever to give DD her breakfast and I got mad, and then he got mad and we ended up having a row again and there was yelling and a bit of argy bargy. Nothing serious and I am as much to blame as he is.

Was going to post this somewhere else but I'd rather have the Puddle's friendly ear. How on earth do I stop my temper from flaring up and also just be better in general? He's no angel here either but we just get a bit heated and overdramatic and it's not good for us OR DD.

BonkeyMollocks Thu 15-Nov-12 10:05:25

Show The thing I always say (have done it too, it works!) is if things start getting heated or you feel yourself getting angry - take yourself away for 5mins. Count to 10 or 100 however much you need to,deep breathes and then ask yourself ^Is it really worth it?^`

Does him taking a long time to do something a really really big deal or is it just because you could do it quicker?

Just because he does something a different way or slower doesn't make it wrong (most of the time) wink .

Think about your DD, she may be young but they know when theres a atmosphere and it will come through in her. Be it that day, or (if rowing is a regular thing?) later on .... there will eventually come a day when you will see it in her and tbh how can you tell her off for doing something you have inadvertently taught her?

Think about how lucky you are, what you have, etc etc.

It works! Hard to get into the habit of it, but it works! Both of you need to do it!

And the biggest bit of advice I would give anyone - DO NOT let your child see/hear any fall outs between their parents EVER. This comes from me, who did, from the age of 5 and I remember it all . I have lost a massive amount of respect for my mum and all respect from my stepdad because of what happened between them.

If that ^ fails it won't then just look at your DD !

BonkeyMollocks Thu 15-Nov-12 10:09:51

Don't mean any of that to sound harsh btw.

Shouting/Rowing etc is something I believe everyone can manage without. Dh and me don't shout/row . We haven't ever in nearly 9 years together. We get pissed of with each other yes, but it happens, we talk, its done!

Everyone can do it, the key words...^Is it worth it?^ Obviously if he has killed someone, or shagged a pig then yes, it maybe wink

Hope today passes quickly for you tee so you can have some well earned rest.

Oh show I wish I knew the answer, me and my dp are the same quick to get feiry with each other, most of the time now one of us takes a deep breath and walks away, but somedays were both too tired and irritable to think rationally and things get a bit bitchy. Rest assured its normal and your adjusting to working life with a small person atm so be gentle with yourself, and when your not feeling so stabby stressed talk to him, I try and make sure I explain my rages to dp and he does me, the worst arguements we've ever had were when ds was 10mo-18mo I was pregnant with dd at the time so slightly unbalanced blush.
Deep breath and don't worry, every one rows with there partner.

Feeling much better today and just packed baby states hospital bag, keep feeling I've forgotten something though...

showtunesgirl Thu 15-Nov-12 10:13:28

Well this morning he wanted me to do the CM drop off but if that's so, she needs to have finished her breakfast by 730 at the latest so that she can be cleaned off, dressed and ready to go at 745/50. DH got up with her and made his coffee etc and let her play and she hadn't even got into her high chair until 725. So I got mad. I'm not saying that I am not to blame but he KNOWS that this is too late.

Things have been a bit frayed recently as I've just gone back to work and I think we're finding our new rhythm and it should settle down soon. I am worried that we argue too much in front of DD and certain lines get crossed that neither of us are happy with. Usually if it does get heated, we have a word we use and that closes down the discussion immediately and we deal with it later. Not sure why we didn't say it this morning!

BonkeyMollocks Thu 15-Nov-12 10:18:10

Show That would piss me off too!

The word thing is good!

BonkeyMollocks Thu 15-Nov-12 10:20:27

Next time he wants you to drop DD off at the CM tell him that if she isn't ready on time then you won't do it - he can.

If he wants to make her late then he can take the responsibility for it.

showtunesgirl Thu 15-Nov-12 10:29:28

I am still worried though about my temper. I think the stress of going back to work and feeling like I'm on an endless treadmill is getting me down and I do take it out on him.

I worry that I am an EA wife to him and he is reacting to that. Sometimes I say the most horrible, horrible things to him and I am sometimes physical with that too. I am very sorry afterwards but it doesn't make it right. It's like I see red and can't stop which is worrying.

Maybe I should just leave the room and calm down when I feel like that?

I read so many threads on the Relationships forum and frankly if I read about MY behaviour, I would probably be saying Leave the Bitch! DH is not perfect but then nor am I and he puts up with a lot from me. And at the heart of it, I know he loves me and I love him dearly. Next week we will have been together for 13 years and that is I think these days, a bit of an achievement.

BonkeyMollocks Thu 15-Nov-12 10:33:11

Always leave the room, take 5!

Even if you have to leave your dd screaming, you are no good to her unless you are calm!

Have you spoken to a Doc about how you feel?

Maybe some sort of counselling would help you find out why you act the way you do and manage it?

Have you spoken to your dh bluntly about how you feel? How he feels?
You need to lay out all the shit!

Tough innit? Being a grown up!

showtunesgirl Thu 15-Nov-12 10:38:34

I feel that I am not being listened to. Sometimes it can take me 10 times to get out the sodding sentence as he keeps interupting me and then I lose my temper. This does not make me losing my temper right but if I was just allowed to finish what I was saying, things wouldn't escalate. But then shouldn't I be taking reponsibility for my own anger as well?

Oh lord yes, we talk and talk and talk. There is no problems with us talking about how we feel. We are extremely open about everything but sometimes I wonder if that's the problem? Do we really NEED to have every single feeling / annoyance aired all the time?

I'm not sure what going to a Doc would achieve.

I am just very quickly realising that how we used to behave with just us probably was a bit much anyway but with a kid around as well now that it's just not acceptable to behave like that anymore.

My biggest problem though is that I have an extremely excellent memory and I am shit at letting things slide. Poor DH eh? grin

So glad you are here Bonkey. I think Relationships would've been a bit much for me!!!!

BonkeyMollocks Thu 15-Nov-12 10:45:17

Maybe you need to have a no negative day?

Spend some time together, go out (without dd) , don't air your annoyances. If he spills coffee on your very expensive dry clean only cream skirt...laugh and say 'You stoopid bugger!' wink

Talking is good, sharing everything imo is not. Don't tell him that when he puts the eggs on the wrong shelf that it really pisses you off hmm , or when he puts the lid on the sugar pot the wrong way, it really pisses you off that it doesn't match hmm , that when he leave the bathmat on the floor it pisses you off everytime you have to pick it up hmm .....grin

And yes you need to learn to let things go - It will eat you up with resentment eventually, one day you may find that you can't see the good anymore sad

Re. the Doc , you can only try! If it helps, great, if not then you haven't lost anything! I went a few years ago and got told I was depressed. They gave me pills, it was a wake up call. i didn't take them, I pulled myself back up and got on with my life with the motto Things could always be worse .

Tee2072 Thu 15-Nov-12 10:46:15

I actually will have to disagree with some of what Bonkey has said. I don't think there is anything wrong with the occasional shouting match even in front of the children as children do learn from their parents how to fight and how not to fight.

The key is to shout correctly. No name calling, no swearing, but sometimes I do shout at my husband things like 'Will you let me finish!?!' and then he stops and realises he's not letting me finish (a problem I see you flag up as well). Part of it for me is my illnesses and their ability to give me aphasia and he gets impatient and it escalates. Part of it is he is just very impatient in general and thinks he knows what I want to say, even if I'm not having trouble getting words out.

So I don't think there's anything wrong with fighting. It's how you fight that matters.

Right now I myself have hit the limit with this morning's dreaded words 'Mrs Tee, can I have a word?'

LittleTee is not only not sharing things at preschool, he's hiding things from other children so they can't play with them and apparently got aggressive with one child for daring to touch a truck yesterday. I really don't get it as he has always shared fine when he was at daycare and he shares fine at his CM. There's something about preschool...

BonkeyMollocks Thu 15-Nov-12 10:50:45

Tee i think alot of what i think about this is to do with personal experience. But I think you do have a point - if you have to do it then do it in the right way smile .

Is LittleTee okay with the other kids there?

showtunesgirl Thu 15-Nov-12 10:58:04

Tee, I would go along with what you're saying there. My parents used to fight in front of us but it seemed to me to be a healthy way of them resolving their differences.

I got upset this morning as DH started swearing at me and I don't think that's acceptable.

How old is LittleTee? I went through a HUGE That's MINE phase when I was bout 3/4.

tee my two still hide stuff from each other, its perfectly normal, I used to work in a preschool its just something preschoolers do, that and fight over blu tack apparently!

Tee2072 Thu 15-Nov-12 11:05:18

No, swearing is definitely not acceptable.

He's not quite 3 and a half. Which I keep pointing out to them. He's very tall and I think they forget that he's not as old as he looks. They are also really pushing him to play with all the areas, rather than staying with cars and trucks, which is what he really likes, which I think is ridiculous. He's 3. So he doesn't know his letters yet because he hasn't gone to the 'alpha corner' or whatever they call it!

BonkeyMollocks Thu 15-Nov-12 11:07:03

Blu tack is ace!

All my ds played with at nursery was stickle bricks, cars, trucks, and the play kitchen.

showtunesgirl Thu 15-Nov-12 11:08:19

What IS it about the blue stuff that's so compelling? hmm

I've text DH but think he's in a strop with me.

BonkeyMollocks Thu 15-Nov-12 11:10:18

T'is the fact that it can be anything you like! I always make cubes hmm grin

showtunesgirl Thu 15-Nov-12 11:10:45

I go one further and make dice! grin

BonkeyMollocks Thu 15-Nov-12 11:13:03


Never thought of a bloody dice!


Dp has just had a massive melt down at me, came from pretty much no where.

Our stupid house has wall to wall windows in our living room and french doors in the middle, verticle blinds were up when we moved in but last winter was bitter and that room like a freezer so we saved and searched and eventually got big enough curtains and its kept the room comfortable but the windows are soaked every morning, so I draw the curtains back open the blinds and open the windows to clear it, there's some spots of mould on the blinds though, dp had decided to hang the curtains further out from windows/doors, the last curtain pole support won't go in so he goes crazy saying he's taking the blinds down, 1) this is NOT our house we can't just rip down huge expensive blinds. 2) we've nowhere to store the blinds 3) I don't want bare windows our gardens tiny and anyone walking by can nose in the house.

I say to dp can we leave them up because abc, he goes mad saying that's more money down the drain, throw the fucking curtains out etc. Then storms off into the kitchen and starts going on about how he best do his chores. Um yes we've always done 1 cooks, other cleans. And since I don't eat porridge and he does I will NOT scrub out the pan he can't even be bothered to run water into when he's done with it to stop the porridge cement occuring.
He throws all the dry pots from the rack across the side and just bangs around for ages. Then comes back into the living room to scream at me say I'm useless and lazy and he's got a good mind to leave and storms off, I go and tell him to grow up and come back in. He does and continues shouting about everything. So I went upstairs to put the dry laundry away.
All the while he's muttering about having to put the bins out and hang up the laundry (I can't reach the fucking line he hung up) so anyway he's gone to get dd from nursery and I'm sobbing my heart out because right now if I had friends or family nearby I'd tell him to leave. That outburst was disgusting, unprovoked and unecessary. I've never seen him like that before and right now I hate him.

showtunesgirl Thu 15-Nov-12 12:20:09

Shit State, is there something in the air today? shock

BonkeyMollocks Thu 15-Nov-12 12:34:57

Oh State sad

<pulls in massive bag of chocolate goodies>

T'is a snuggle day in the puddle !

Must be show

<Munches chocolate>

He's back with dd and playing at mr nice talking sickly sweet loudly, I want to go downstairs and punch him in the face, I am so angry with him I can't stop crying and shaking. I've now got a splitting headache. I've got a cake order for tomorrow so I should be doing the sponge today to give me longer time to decorate tomorrow but I don't want to be anywhere near him to ask him to take me to sainsburys. I'm staying upstairs.

showtunesgirl Thu 15-Nov-12 12:55:31

Keep munching. And take deep breaths, this can't be good for you.

Can you get the ingredients yourself and then beat the hell out of the cake?

Were a 10 minute drive from the nearest shop that has what I need and I'm no good walking far anymore.

He came upstairs to change his socks and asked if I'm just sitting up here all day now, I said I don't really want to be around him and he muttered something about be like that then. He won't appolagise he never does, I'm so shocked hed stand there screaming at me how he did when I was already crying.

I'm going to have to go down as I need some lunch and he's getting crabby with dd for dropping yogurt on her top.

Tee2072 Thu 15-Nov-12 13:46:34

Wow, State. How horrible. He is acting totally like a child. There is no excuse for that.


I'm actually going to murder him, whilst I was eating lunch he decided to bring the changing table downstairs, yes it was going to go there but NOT YET, yes I had spoken to him about it but at no point did I say please dp trash the carefully organised baby corner of our bedroom. I now have no idea where to put stuff and it had been keeping me awake before I sorted it! I had all the 'stuff' stored on it in our room so now my rooms trashed and I'm having to sort that.

Shaky Thu 15-Nov-12 16:12:04

Oh blimey!
Poor you State I hate having rows, I'm no good at it, I just cry when I get angry. I tend to seethe silently, swearing in my head. Big hugs and snuggles.
I just read about your funny turn in sainsburys, do you think you could be anaemic? It might be an idea to start taking some iron tablets and ask your midwife to check your iron levels. The best way to take iron tablets is with a drink of orange juice as vit c helps to absorb more iron. Avoid drinking tea with your meals as the tannin in tea stops you absorbing the iron from your food.
Being anaemic may account for you feeling so exhausted (as well as already having 2 dc's to look after). I hope things are better for you soon x

Tee I hope you are feeling better soon.

Show my ds is very challenging at the moment as well, he's so bloody stubborn.

I've been having a bad week too. Still feel really ropey from increasing my meds and the depression has been bad this last week. My sick note runs out tomorrow so I'll be back to the docs. There is no way I'm fit to go back to work just yet, I have zero energy. I went upstairs for a shower and sat down on the bed for a little rest, woke up 3 hours later!

The conservatory is still not finished although we have had the floor tiled and the electrician is coming tomorrow.

AND the bloody washing machine has packed in.

I was going to see my sister yesterday and ds started coughing and threw up all over the car, everywhere. I had to pull over, strip him off, clean car seat and change him at the side of the road. Not fun. Got going again and 5 minutes later he did it again, it was everywhere. Stripped off etc all over again. He's been ok since though. I can't quite get the stink of spew out of the car yet <boak>.

I have spent a couple of days reading some of the mad, bonkers threads on here, I have been shock

showtunesgirl Thu 15-Nov-12 16:22:01

It's all a bit Twilight Zone at the mo isn't it? confused

Shaky Thu 15-Nov-12 17:03:21

Definitely mad as a box of something or other grin

Thanks for the advice shaky couldn't get hold of my mw today so I'm booked for general clinic on wednesday but will call tomorrow and hopefully see her before then.
Had really bad tightenings this evening and I think spd may have caught up with me at last.

Dp still being a twat I'm biting my tongue though until the children are in bed.

I'd been feeling so upbeat but he's really knocked it out of me and I feel like I'm going to cry the whole time.

Shaky Thu 15-Nov-12 20:11:55

Ouch! SPD is painful. Have you had it before?
Do you have any paracetamol to take (or cocodamol if you need it)?
I have seen women on crutches with SPD before, it's so painful.
It's worth mentioning it at your clinic appointment and asking for a physio referral and fitting for a support belt. Some women find that they really help.
My other advice for SPD is to always try to keep your knees together when getting out of the car, getting out of bed etc to keep your pelvis as stable as possible. We do not under estimate SPD, it can be really excruiciating.
Ask them to check your blood count as well.
I think your body is telling you to rest up a bit and take things a bit easier, (easier said than done I know).
I hope you get your dp to realise that you need more support at the moment and that upsetting a hormonal, pregnant woman can seriously damage his health!

I had it mildly with my big two and get achy hips from time to time since having them, my gp said having two close together at a young age won't have helped much. But this evening it was a proper take my breath away pain like I'd had the middle of my pelvis just above my ehem, fanjo, smashed each step I took, we'd been to watch my little sister sing on stage at the christmas light switch on and I felt fine stood there but the short walk back to the car got worse step by step, sat down for a good hour at mums and now I'm just a bit achey when I move but it goes when I sit down. I'm going to make more of a conscious effort to keep my knees together, I did try before but will make sure I do now, luckily our cars flat in the front like a van, there's no dip/foot well as such and higher up than most so its easy to get in and out for me.

I'm going to talk to dp later on, his moods fizzling out, I still feel very emotional though and I need to hold it together or it won't go well.

Shaky Thu 15-Nov-12 20:32:15

<snuggles State>

Thanks shaky smile

I have ben and jerrys, a fluffy throw and new series of big bang theory and 2 broke girls, my day just improved smile

Tee2072 Thu 15-Nov-12 21:32:00

What a crap night. My mom and I are having a fight via email as I put a thing on Twitter, which fed to FB, about LittleTee's teacher asking for a word and she's read this whole thing into it and apparently I'm the worst mother ever and god who knows any more.

Sorry things are great for you either State. I never had SPD, which is a miracle with my joints, but I hear it's horrible.

Oh tee social networking can cause such crap can't it! Littletee is a perfectly normal child, and you are NOT the worlds worst mother.

--i am the dcs had a greggs sausage roll and cupcake this evening--

<Offers round ben and jerrys core dough-ble whammy>

Shaky Thu 15-Nov-12 22:23:24

<snuggles under throw and helps self to Ben & jerry's> yum, thanks State

<brings in steaming mugs of hot chocolate with cream and marshmallows and big plate of chocolate digestives>

Ah, that's better,pjs, dressing gown, slippers and blankie on the sofa in the puddle, bliss.
Much better than venturing out there ->

I've decided bed is the best place for me its warm its comfy and I really should go to sleep earlier.

I put the crib up today, since dp trashed the bedroom I figured I'd just get everything sorted. Its weird laying here looking at it, I can't imagine having a baby in there in the next month! I'm not sure if its because we don't know the sex so this wriggly little creature doesn't have an identity yet as such, or its the lingering fear of the mmc.

Anyway enough of my waffling on, how are you doing shaky? Xx

Shaky Thu 15-Nov-12 22:52:29

I'm a bit fragile State to be honest. I have doubled my medication but still feel like shite. I'm so irritable and dp can't even breathe without me snapping at him. It's not his fault that I'm not so well but I can't help taking it out on him sad.

There is no way I am fit for work yet.

I hate this depression, I just want to feel like me again. I feel like I have been stolen from myself and I can't find me again sad.

The puddle is the only place on here that I can admit these things. Thank god for the puddle <snuggles everyone>

Shaky Thu 15-Nov-12 22:55:42

I tend to withdraw from everything when I'm not feeling well and it's not good.

If you ever notice that I'm absent from the puddle again please shout me back and kick my arse. This has been a real life line. I love the puddle!

Shaky Thu 15-Nov-12 23:03:12

Hey Bonkey! You're famous again.

Checkout the best MN names thread! <bows>

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Thu 15-Nov-12 23:07:53

<comes in, takes mug of hot chocolate and snuggles under duvet.

Bed is luffly. State, I hope your DP's properly sorry tomorrow. Tee, LittleTee sounds like a great kid and you're a great mum.

I was told last month that the small company I work for was only likely to last a year but now apparently it's more like a fortnight sad. Got a meeting about it tomorrow. I've been there about 14 years, I'm massively out of touch with jobs market. DW is being brilliant, thanks for asking Tee.

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Thu 15-Nov-12 23:08:56

<hugs Shaky>
The puddle is bloody wonderful!

Shaky Thu 15-Nov-12 23:09:21

Oh no Empress what a nightmare

Shaky Thu 15-Nov-12 23:10:27

X post Empress

Thanks for the hug

<hugs back>

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Thu 15-Nov-12 23:12:28

It's scary. It happens to loads of other people though and I'm lucky we're in a council flat. After tomorrow I should know exactly what's going on and then I can see when I need to sign on and start looking for temping work while I jobhunt.

(((*shaky*))) I hope things settle down for you soon, I've been there and remember all too well how craptacular it feels. I'll come drag you back if your absent again smile

Oh empress sorry to hear that, glad dw is being supportive though x

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Thu 15-Nov-12 23:32:13

Thanks State <snuggles>

I hope you're feeling better. I'll take one of Shaky's arms next time if you take the other!

<lights chocolate scented candle>

Shaky Thu 15-Nov-12 23:36:38

craptacular sums it up perfectly State

I hope things work out ok for you Empress fingers crossed x

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Thu 15-Nov-12 23:42:18

Thanks Shaky, for you too.
<gets out the pick n mix>

showtunesgirl Thu 15-Nov-12 23:56:16

Is today over yet? Please someone say yes? sad

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Thu 15-Nov-12 23:59:56

<hugs Show, wraps in fleece>
Now it is. Come and snuggle and have some hot chocolate.

showtunesgirl Fri 16-Nov-12 00:02:42

Good because I'm not snuggling H and that's that. angry

Shaky Fri 16-Nov-12 00:04:29

Yes today is officially over and it is now a totally shiny new day.

Empress you know me so well, pick & mix is my bestest favourite in the whole wide world grin

Shaky Fri 16-Nov-12 00:06:36

I have come to the conclusion that the puddle is miles better than Prozac

<snuggles everyone>

Don't ever let me leave

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Fri 16-Nov-12 00:14:22

<passes pick n mix back to Shaky

Who needs RL when you've got a Puddle?

showtunesgirl Fri 16-Nov-12 00:14:51

I still have brownies in the freezer if anyone wants anyone. Got loads of walnuts and brandy in it it.

I've cracked open the vodka too.

showtunesgirl Fri 16-Nov-12 00:15:03

any. Not anyone. WTF is wrong with me.

Shaky Fri 16-Nov-12 00:20:32

Is off to bed <grabs brownie out of shows freezer>

Goodnight all and thank you <snuggles>

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Fri 16-Nov-12 00:22:16

<nabs brownies and vodka>

It does sound tough at the moment, Show.

showtunesgirl Fri 16-Nov-12 00:22:28

It will ALL be ok tomorrow folks. Promise! smile

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Fri 16-Nov-12 00:28:16

The sun'll come out grin

giraffesCantLightFireworks Fri 16-Nov-12 00:29:30


EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Fri 16-Nov-12 00:38:00

Hello giraffes, nice to see you. Have some pick n mix. How are you?

giraffesCantLightFireworks Fri 16-Nov-12 00:43:22

Nooo no pick n mix for me thanks, just posted my weight loss piccies and got such lovely comments that I am never eating again, ever.

Am ok thanks, you? How was your day? I had great fun - I stole a MNers car wink

giraffesCantLightFireworks Fri 16-Nov-12 00:46:11

Oh and I got my bracelt from bonkeymollocks today grin

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Fri 16-Nov-12 01:06:19


Never mind my day - whose car????

Tee2072 Fri 16-Nov-12 06:38:30

You did what now, giraffe?

Morning. Who would like some bacon and eggs and tons of coffee?

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Fri 16-Nov-12 07:56:42

Yes please, Tee. How's the fibro?

Tee2072 Fri 16-Nov-12 07:57:46

Horrific with added cough and cold. I'm heading back to bed as soon as the male members of the household vacate for the day. God Bless My Childminder!

showtunesgirl Fri 16-Nov-12 08:41:46

Ah Tee that's what I did on Tue / Wed.

Humph. Tiff with H still going on at the mo. He genuinely believes that he is above apologising for things when he gets things wrong. I believe that if you get something wrong, no matter how small, it's polite to just own up and say sorry.

show I think our men came from the same mould! This plonker struggles with sorry and doesn't seem to realise he could make our life much more harmonious if he said it more often. I didn't speak to the twit last night I was just too tired for it, I need to though or he'll think he's got away with it.

Tee enjoy your well earned rest x

giraffes please do tell...?

Just packed the dcs off to nursery/school in there onesies for children in need. Ds couldn't understand why I insisted he wear a clean one, "put its pjs muuuum" hmm

I have a beyblade stadium cake to make today, dds cake and cupcakes to make sunday/monday as we now have a funeral tuesday, and then a death by chocolate giant cupcake for friday. And I just don't want to <sulks>

giraffesCantLightFireworks Fri 16-Nov-12 08:56:28

It was nettosuperstars car. She in hosp and I went to visit her and I moved her car for her to a better space for when she gets discharged so I had her keys and was driving it around. She didn't know I was going to move it - she just thought I was going to strighten parking and get something out it for her. It was fun! Now when she comes out it is right near the door in a disabled space not stuck way round the back that be hard for her to walk to. (has badge)

I just told my bank a lie! I told thenm I was cancelling the review because I had been offered a ten hour shift and wanted the money...I just cant be arsed getting out my bed yet!

Get well soon tee

giraffesCantLightFireworks Fri 16-Nov-12 08:57:49

Although I was sitting in car park trying to work out how to get lights etc on for ages - last time I drove it was July.

Shaky Fri 16-Nov-12 09:32:51

Good morning everyone, lets hope today is a better day for everyone.

I'm off to the docs in a bit but I feel like snuggling back under the duvet instead.

Breakfast is yummy Tee thank you. I hope you feel better soon

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Fri 16-Nov-12 09:38:41

grin How's she doing?

Going back to bed sounds like a great idea, Tee. Thanks for breakfast.

<snuggles State and Show. Don't let either of them get away with it.

BonkeyMollocks Fri 16-Nov-12 09:41:58

Morning, I need to do some work today but bed is looking very inviting!
<pretends long list of 'things to do' doesn't exist>

Ds is in school in PJs for Children in need - he thinks its hilarious grin

DZoH Fri 16-Nov-12 09:48:02

Heading out shortly for a sausage,egg and bacon breakfast cob in Brownies cafe. They do takeaway too smile Anyone got any orders ???


Yes please DZ one of everything, and some juice, thanks. <Waits patiently>

What? I'm 35wks pregnant now, I've got to enjoy food while I can still eat it hot grin

DZoH Fri 16-Nov-12 10:08:09

Surveys the varied menu.

Decides to take the wheelbarrow to carry State`s breakfast home.

Ketchup ?? Brown sauce ??? Mayo ??


Ketchup please grin


DZoH Fri 16-Nov-12 10:37:26

Straps 5 Litre ketchup dispenser onto back.

Collects serviettes.

Notices size of "The Bump"

Replaces serviettes with tablecloths grin

Hurries before the eggs get cold


<Munches> I will share honest, I don't bite --unless you touch the hash browns--

<Resumes munching>

BrianCoxIsEatingBrains Fri 16-Nov-12 12:44:14


Had scan this morning and am thrilled to announce I am having a boy !

I recall one of you had already told me that a month or so back wink

He was being awkward though and she couldn't get a decent view of his heart or take a picture so I go back in 3 weeks for another scan.

DD is deliriously happy. I am in shock as was convinced he was a she! Very happy tho. If not a little surreal grin

Tee2072 Fri 16-Nov-12 12:57:25

Congratulations, Brian! Boys are ace. When they're not making fart noises, poo jokes and/or making you play Fireman Sam for the 1,000,000 hour in a row. grin

::waits for the stereotype police to get her::

I have just woken up from a lovely sleep, had a huge plate of bacon and French Toast and am now considering a very hot bath. I nearly feel human.

DZoH Fri 16-Nov-12 12:57:52

Congrats Brian

and boys are sooooooooooooooooooooooo much easier too grin

DZoH Fri 16-Nov-12 12:59:16

Ponders in which parallel universe Tee could be considered to be human wink


Tee2072 Fri 16-Nov-12 13:03:29


::frets as to whom told *DZoH my secret::

BonkeyMollocks Fri 16-Nov-12 13:07:17

Ahem, it was me who said it was a boy! <smug>

Just have to wait for State to pop now with her girl .


Congratulations brian boys are so wonderful <looks at screaming heap of 3yo girl on the floor> I had to be re-scanned at this stage aswell, awkward little things smile

bonkey If its a girl I will be so so shocked, I've had a feeling its a boy all along, but as dp rightly said, boys aren't this bloody awkward! 4 weeks and a few days to go <faints>

I just made a BRIGHT blue cake...

showtunesgirl Fri 16-Nov-12 14:26:37

Yay! Babies! You're all making me broody!

Just finished my lunch. Delish. Prawns and oyster mushrooms in a spring onion, brandy cream sauce with linguine. grin

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Fri 16-Nov-12 14:42:37

You're making me hungry now, Show!

Congratulations, Brian! Bonkey is clearly psychic.

Well, I've just left the office for the last time - they decided it needed to close today. Bit shellshocked but the redundancy payment was much more generous than expected so that's something. I'm thinking about retraining in either bookkeeping or accountancy and at least I'll be able to afford course fees!

Tee2072 Fri 16-Nov-12 15:24:34

Wow, that was quick Empress. Glad they gave you a decent payment. Good luck.

Show oh that sounds gorgeous!

I was feeling better. Then I folded all the laundry. When I say I'm going to take a whole day off? I really should take a whole day off...

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Fri 16-Nov-12 15:54:29

Thanks, Tee.

At least now we can pay the rent up front for a few months, and it gives me a bit more time to think and plan instead of just having to go for the first job I could get.

If you can go back to bed, do!

BrianCoxIsEatingBrains Fri 16-Nov-12 16:05:58

--Thank you everyone grin

Bonkey is psych--o--ic indeed wink

Empress - good luck, glad to see you are viewing it as cup half full and can look forward to a new start.

Tee - I want no more 'anything' from you today, feet up please (if possible!)

State - girls are, erm, interesting aren't they wink <looks a almost 9yo post-melt down (over nothing), sitting at my side>

DZoH - people keep telling me that, I am secretly pleased/relieved!

showtunesgirl Fri 16-Nov-12 16:15:00

Nooooooooooooooo! Baby vomit!

Tee2072 Fri 16-Nov-12 16:20:08

Well, husband is going to tidy the kitchen but I need to make dinner. Which I actually enjoy doing. grin

giraffesCantLightFireworks Fri 16-Nov-12 17:26:38

watcvhing the apprentice!

Congrats Brian, when you due?

Umm interesting, yes, couldn't have put it better myself brian she is wonderful but bloody exhausting, there is always a drama, she's 4 on wednesday and every year I hope it will get better then there's something else to screech about <rocks in corner> grin

Hope your ok empress glad there is a small silver lining for you and that's taken some pressure off xx

Everything alright show?

Well I did it, I made a sodding beyblade stadium cake --and hated every fecking second of it-- one very happy 12yr old cousin, can't wait for him to cut it, I dyed the sponge bright blue and the butter cream red ha! I will attempt a photo if I can x

BrianCoxIsEatingBrains Fri 16-Nov-12 19:38:06

oo, State, that cake sounds like a hyper-child-bouncing-off-the-wall recipe if ever there was one grin

giraffes - thank you, am due 8th April.

Don't know if it is the excitement of the day or what, but couldn't decide what to have for tea as didn't fancy anything, so reluctantly made spaghetti (Heinz) on toast, managed 2 mouthfuls and wretched. Dog was happy as she was the recipient of warm left-overs! I've had a bag of crisps instead and contemplating another.

Bad mother award!

BonkeyMollocks Fri 16-Nov-12 19:41:38

Heinz spaghetti is amazing! But only if it has toast cut up into teeny square mixed up with it!

Tee2072 Fri 16-Nov-12 19:53:06

::head in hands::

Just found out an old friend's mother has cancer. Terminal. Pancreatic.

That's three people I know who have been diagnosed in the last month.

Stop it, okay? Just stop it, universe.

showtunesgirl Fri 16-Nov-12 19:56:01

No, MORE baby vomit. I think Baby Show has a bug. sad

showtunesgirl Fri 16-Nov-12 19:56:21

Shit Tee, that's awful. sad

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Fri 16-Nov-12 20:10:00

That's the same as my auntie Tee. sad I'm really sorry. It's so awful. They must be close to a cure. They really must.

BonkeyMollocks Fri 16-Nov-12 20:18:33

Oh tee sad

Thinking of you all

Shaky Fri 16-Nov-12 20:31:04

Aw Tee that's awful.

Congratulations Brian I'm chuffed for you.

Empress that all happened a bit quickly.

Poor babyShow I hope you have an ok night and that you don't get it too

I have been to the docs today and he was lovely and signed me of for another 4 weeks to give me a bit more time to get back to myself.

We now have lights, electric and heating all connected. We just need to get the furniture and paint it next week! grin it's looking lovely, I can't wait to use it

BrianCoxIsEatingBrains Fri 16-Nov-12 21:39:34

aw, Tee, so very sorry to hear your news sad {{{hugs}}}

Shaky - good news about the extra time off, you can relax a bit now hopeflly.


giraffesCantLightFireworks Fri 16-Nov-12 21:45:27

brian my boss is due end march (although she thinks start of April!) I am so excited - a wee bubba to look after!

giraffesCantLightFireworks Fri 16-Nov-12 21:46:12

Oh tee that is shit - cancer is pure evil

Shaky Fri 16-Nov-12 21:49:19

Yes it is a relief and its taken the pressure of a lot. My sick note takes me until the week before Christmas and I should be able to take a week of annual leave, then go back on phased return after Xmas. I am not rushing back after trying too hard and going back too soon, only to be told that I wasn't well enough. It was devastating and a real blow to my confidence. I am going to make sure I am properly well and fighting fit before I go back this time. Although I do feel very guilty for being off.

Besides, I have got a conservatory to paint which should keep me occupied grin

Oh tee much love coming your way, dps Grandad had pancreatic cancer too, and we lost my Grandma two years and 1 week ago to brain cancer. Cancer is a total and utter cunt. Thinking of you xx

brian I didn't think of that... Whoops, ah well they're all 11/12yos going to dry ski slopes to do tubing they'll need the energy grin

I've got dds cake to make, cupcakes for school, and a chocolate cupcake. Not done a giant cupcake before, or made a chocolate cake so trial run this weekend, dp is delighted "I'm fed up of watching cakes leave this house"

Glad you have some more time shaky and the conservatory is coming along nicely, its good to have a project.

Get well soon babyshow x

I'm sending dp for a chinese, my aunt tipped me nicely for the cake and we haven't had one in forever. Well when I say chinese an exceptionally random mix of pregnancy cravings that comes from a chinese grin

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Fri 16-Nov-12 22:53:00

I'm so sorry, Tee. sad

That's great, Shaky. Put some pics of your conservatory up in the Puddle when it's done!

It was bloody quick! But yes, at least I've got a plan, and I've also now got some time to sort the house out.

How was the Chinese, State?

Shaky Fri 16-Nov-12 23:11:27

Empress I am absolutely loving your new name, ace! grin

It was good but they've changed the sweet and sour sauce, all I could taste was vinegar, so that annoyed me a bit!

I now really want some of the core dough-ble whammy ice cream, but I may have ate it all yesterday.

showtunesgirl Fri 16-Nov-12 23:23:49

I have never "got" sweet and sour sauce. Shame really as my dad makes a brilliant one, so I'm told. Shall I ask him for the recipe?

Semi-outing myself here but the recipe is cough, authentic. grin

giraffesCantLightFireworks Fri 16-Nov-12 23:27:51

mmm sweet and sour sauce is good! Not had any though since staryed losing weight.

Shaky Sat 17-Nov-12 00:02:23

Nos da, gwel I chi yfory!
Welsh for "goodnight, see you tomorrow"

Tee2072 Sat 17-Nov-12 07:20:48

Thanks for the sympathy all. It really is a shit disease.

My God LittleTee slept until nearly 730!

BonkeyMollocks Sat 17-Nov-12 10:02:52


<drags in fruit/pastries/fresh bread/coffee>

How are we all doing today?

Sun is shining here and I have some work to catch up on because I have been a lazy bint the last few days hmm

Shaky Sat 17-Nov-12 11:05:07

Good morning everyone.

It's a sunny day here too.

We are going sofa shopping today. I am committing a mumsnet crime by wanting a brown leather one but I don't care grin

<brings in pot of tea and large plate of hot, buttered toast>

Tee2072 Sat 17-Nov-12 12:00:56

Well, been to open house for a primary school that LittleTee will not be attending. Still firmly in favour of the one his preschool is attached to. Their lack of organization today really got my hackles up.

BonkeyMollocks Sat 17-Nov-12 13:23:56

I have a brown leather sofa

BonkeyMollocks Sat 17-Nov-12 15:14:27


5 bloody christmas songs I have heard in the last hour angry

I love christmas! But I expect this amount of frequency in December not flipping November the 17th!

I had a brown leather sofa, twas lovely but cheap and two toddlers, 3 house moves, and 6 months stacked in storage killed it sad

I'm having a rotten day my dcs are acting feral, I'm going to make a chocolate cake.

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Sat 17-Nov-12 19:28:51

I also have a brown leather sofa…

I'm going to miss my brown leather sofa <looks cautiously at new weird pale material suite and imagines baby sick et al>

I've got freshly baked chocolate cake if anyone wants some <cuts slices and lays on a plate>

BonkeyMollocks Sat 17-Nov-12 20:02:03

State Your cake looks fab!

I'm bored! Dh is at work, X-Factor is on but I don't really care enough to pay too much attention....

And it seems we are a puddle of brown leather sofas! grin

I'm watching russle howards good news then sticking nightmare before christmas on, I've never seen it.

I now feel a bit sick! Two slices of cake was my limit.

BonkeyMollocks Sat 17-Nov-12 21:07:09

I'll have the rest !

<snatches cake>
<shoves face in cake>

Tee2072 Sat 17-Nov-12 21:09:53

I have a green leather sofa, but it came with the house. I never would have bought it. Although it is comfy!

Did someone say cake?

BonkeyMollocks Sat 17-Nov-12 21:19:01

<says through stuffed mouthful of cake>

Gone tee ! blush

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Sat 17-Nov-12 21:22:38

Tee, someone's asking what's up with all the head tilting and 'Are you ok, OP?" in chat! Do you want to explain? wink

Tee2072 Sat 17-Nov-12 21:31:10

Damn. I missed the cake!

Where is it, Dreamy?

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Sat 17-Nov-12 21:33:58
Tee2072 Sat 17-Nov-12 21:34:44

Found it, thanks.

It apparently didn't start with me. It just escalated with me!

That was a totally bonkers time!

Shaky Sat 17-Nov-12 21:43:04

Someone say cake?

Didn't get the sofa I wanted, it was already sold sad, we saw it 2 weeks ago but the shop said they could only keep it for a week. We didn't know when the conservatory was going to be finished so couldn't get it. I'm a bit gutted but we have managed to get the same suite but in BLACK! <hangs head in shame>

Ds has had a total meltdown over teeth cleaning tonight, it was horrendous, he got so upset that he puked all over the bath mat. I feel like the worlds worst mum to tonight. It is the first time he has ever gone to bed with unbrushed teeth. sad. <quietly beats self up in the corner and sobs silently>

Shaky Sat 17-Nov-12 21:48:34

Tee your Facebook thread where it all started was bonkers, hilarious and a bit bat shit crazy. It was fab! grin

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Sat 17-Nov-12 21:48:56

Yes, I didn't realise you flounced Tee!

<Wrestles the last two slices of cake from the spot they're hidden behind bonkey>

Ooh tee I never saw the fb madness but heard the ripples of are you ok op for ages, what happened? X

showtunesgirl Sat 17-Nov-12 21:55:11

Evening all.

So I saw the parents today. They are briefly in the country and are flying back out again on Thursday which is DD and DH's birthday and won't be back until April. Sometimes I really miss having them around. sad

The good thing is that they've given us a bit of money so now we can afford the tumble dryer we've had our eye on.

Tee2072 Sat 17-Nov-12 21:55:36

Shaky I can't tell you the number of times LittleTee had gone to bed without brushing. Don't sweat it.

I never flounced. But the thread where I was told I was, and bullied, was even more bonkers.

Shaky Sat 17-Nov-12 21:58:17

<grabs grip>

I'm terrible for remembering teeth brushing too, often end up shouting, "quick brush your teeth" whilst I'm putting my boots on and gathering bags in the morning. <Bad mum>

Shaky Sat 17-Nov-12 22:10:16

Ooh Tee which one was that?

Shaky Sat 17-Nov-12 22:10:51

Grip has been grabbed, I'm better now!

Tee2072 Sat 17-Nov-12 22:19:39

It may have been in chat, shaky. It was about MN allowing bullying and one poster swore I was bullied off MN.

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Sat 17-Nov-12 22:20:18

<comes in with box of birthday cake and bottle of champagne>
Granny's 90th was wonderful. I saw family members I hadn't seen for ages and it was lovely to see my litttle DNiece and Dnephew with their broad Yorkshire accents grin. I spent ages playing ball with them.

We had a brown leather sofa when we were kids. It lasted through my childhood and we did put it through hell!

BonkeyMollocks Sat 17-Nov-12 22:23:25

Ooh this moved on fast!

<puts on best Welsh accent>

Whats occuring?

Glad you had a lovely day empress did you get the hat in the end?

I am so bored it is unreal. Me and dp are just sat here channel surfing and moaning we are bored.

Shaky Sat 17-Nov-12 23:04:08

Are you speaking now State?

Glad you had a lovely day Empress

We are having a BLACK sofa now sad

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Sat 17-Nov-12 23:09:19

Thank you grin

Yes, thanks to Dreamy and Amazon!

Off to bed. Night x

BonkeyMollocks Sat 17-Nov-12 23:09:25

Just make sure they get the delivery right Shaky .

We got told our sofa would arrive on 14th of so and so , so we get rid of our old sofa the morning of the 14th, guess what! Phone call at 6pm "Sorry MrsMollocks, your delivery has been delayed until further notice..." angry

Bare in mind that we had nothing else because the table and chairs were also in that lorry. It was pillows and a rug for three days hmm .

Ds thought it was great, dh did not! wink

Shaky Sat 17-Nov-12 23:23:25

It's ok Bonkey it's going in the empty conservatory, we will still be able to sit down.

Goodnight Empress

Niight empress xx

He eventually appolagised shaky I'd have preferred some grovelling tbh, I'm still not impressed with him but cba to sulk and cause an atmosphere, he knows he's in the wrong though and has making up to do.

Sofa deliveries don't go well for me either, our brown leather one was left abandoned in the garden by the delivery men, I stood there holding 4wk old ds, had had a csection and it started to rain...

Tee2072 Sun 18-Nov-12 09:00:17


Still feeling rough. Plans to return to bed postponed until husband gets back from getting the Sunday papers as LittleTee refused to go with him. Ah well, he'll be back soon.

Afternoon everyone.

Hope you got some more rest tee

I'm having a joyful afternoon, babysitting whilst my Mum and her DH see the new twilight, my ds is being a total swine, but I have chocolate cake and some of my cousins birthday cake so Its not all bad. --<locks ds in puppy crate>--

Just fetched all the ingredients for dds cakes this week had a small heart attack as I'd ran out of everything...

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Sun 18-Nov-12 17:09:08

Glad I could help Empress!

Fucks sake


I've just burnt a cake for the first time <sobs> I have to make dds birthday cake for school and party today as I've managed to feck myself over time wise and with the funeral and 200+mile traveling I've no time. As long as the sponge is done I can decorate school one tues night when she's in bed, party one wed whilst she's in nursery but I burned one of the sponges <sobs>

showtunesgirl Sun 18-Nov-12 22:44:11

There, there State. It's been one of those weeks hasn't it?

I think DD has given me her latest lurgy. I feel really strange, hot and cold, rather nauseous and having stomach gripes. Great.

BonkeyMollocks Mon 19-Nov-12 09:55:55

Morning Humpers grin

How are we all today?

showtunesgirl Mon 19-Nov-12 11:17:16

It's mine and DH's 13th anniversary of being together.

We're celebrating by being in bed together, sick with norovirus. sad

Oh show you poor things <pops on mask> <gets best comforters and pillows> happy anniversary anyway smile

I've had a hair cut and feel far more human, and since dp was in a pissy mood I sent him home to sort stuff for going to the ils and I'm at my Mums, she childminds a 10mo little boy and he is scrummy and very amusing, I forgot how much fun babys are when they get personalitys!

Tee2072 Mon 19-Nov-12 14:29:02


After a very restful weekend and feeling better, one bad nights sleep has me back to where I was. Of course having a meeting with people I hate didn't help.

Oh no show! I hope you're both better soon.

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Mon 19-Nov-12 20:13:26

I had a rubbish week last week, so I'm really sorry, but I've come here to whinge.

My auntie's funeral was on tuesday. It was a lovely service, and the church was absolutely packed. She was a very well loved lady, and made friends with everyone she met.

I was surprised by how much it affected me. I didn't see her that often, but seeing her two teenage daughters and husband was so upsetting, and it really hit me that she's gone. sad

I've been so down since then, I was starting to worry I had depression, but I've no idea if it's that, or just my auntie, combined with breast and nipple pain that just won't bloody go. I've been crying every day, and on saturday I couldn't face leaving the house. I forced myself to, and nearly had several panic attacks. I cried in Frankie and Bennys, and was basically a wreck.

And now I think I might have mastitis again.

I've contacted Milk Matters, and someone is going to come out and see me and Ds2, to try and sort out our bf problems. The GP, health visitor and NHS Lactation consultant I've seen have been next to useless.

Anyway, whinge over.

Sorry you're ill Show and Tee.

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Mon 19-Nov-12 21:13:10

Yup, breast is bright red. sad Back to the doctors to get abs that give me agonising wind pain!

showtunesgirl Mon 19-Nov-12 21:16:12

Dreamy what kind of pain are you getting and is this recurring then? Is it a latch problem? Have you tried dangling the nipple into DS' mouth to let suction and gravity get to work on the problem?

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Mon 19-Nov-12 21:23:06

I started a thread about it all here. I had mastitis first when he was about a week old, and for some reason I now have it again. No wonder I've been feeling so shitty.

showtunesgirl Mon 19-Nov-12 21:36:00

Ok. Just read through it. Hopefully Milk Matters will be able to help you. I would agree that it may well be a tongue tie issue as he keeps sliding off.

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Mon 19-Nov-12 21:40:00

Yeah, obviously I don't want there to be something wrong with him, but if it can be fixed simply and solve all our problems, then I kind of hope it is tongue tie.

showtunesgirl Mon 19-Nov-12 21:41:40

It's so tricky though. Two of my friends babes had tongue tie and they had to see quite a few people before it was identified and was dealt with.

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Mon 19-Nov-12 21:44:11

Yes, he's been checked once and she said he was fine, but after all the missed tongue ties I've read about on here, and the way he seems to have every tongue tie symptom, I want a second opinion.

showtunesgirl Mon 19-Nov-12 21:45:47

Definitely and if after that things don't improve keep on going.

Where in the country are you?

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Mon 19-Nov-12 22:01:33

Yorkshire. Fortunately Milk Matters are local. smile

Oh dreamy sorry to hear your having a rough time, grief and mastitis are bound to make you feel awful so be gentle with yourself, I really hope milk matters help resolve the issue for you xxx

My ds had an undiagnosed tongue tie, I was constantly told he was just lazy, until he learnt to poke his tongue out, it forked like a snake and I laughed so he did it over and over then screamed and there was blood in his mouth, rang gp, turns out his was tongue tied, but being young and totally unsupported by hcps bfing had long ended.

Tee2072 Tue 20-Nov-12 07:38:57

Morning all

ARGH! I have 6 tons of work this week and CM can't have LittleTee on Friday. It's for a totally legitimate reason but that kills an entire afternoon to get work done! At least she doesn't charge me if she's the one not available.

Sorry your having a hard time Dreamy. Hope it all sorts out soon.

Another lovely morning in Belfast. [sarcasm emoticon]

Its dps Grandads funeral today, I've had no sleep (stayed at ils last nigh) a sore throat, I miss my dcs and I'm faced with a very long day and making and decorating cakes, decorating the house and wrapping presents when I get home late tonight. <Whine>

Hope you get something sorted Tee x

<Leaves behind orange juice, coffee and pastries>

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Tue 20-Nov-12 08:44:02

<snuggles everyone>

I had tongue tie, Dreamy, though mine wasn't diagnosed until I was 11. Afer years of speech problems my DM decided to send me for elocution lessons before I started secondary school and the teacher noticed it in the first 10 minutes.

Once it had been snipped (GA, night in hospital) I kept going to her to learn how to use my tongue and then just carried on because it was so much fun. It never occurred to me until reading MN that tongue tie was the reason DM couldn't breastfeed me. Good luck with the second opinion.

I have a stonking cold sad but I think I've found the accountancy course I want to do so I'm going to phone them later grin

Shaky Tue 20-Nov-12 10:00:11

Morning everyone.

<snuggles everyone>

Dreamy is does sound like a tongue tie problem. I hope you get that and the mastitis sorted soon, it's horribly painful and no wonder you feel so rotten.

Show I hope you feel better soon.

I hope the funeral goes ok State

Good luck with the accountancy course Empress

Glad you had a restful weekend Tee.

I'm staying in waiting for furniture delivery today. We finally got the washing machine fixed yesterday and I have got a MOUNTAIN the size of Snowdon of washing to get done. I can't believe how quickly it mounts up if I dont do it everyday.

We are having to get the boss of the conservatory company to come back today. The electrician has done a crappy job. All the sockets are wonky and the conduit for the heating is a real mess. There is no cap under the conduit do ds could easily get his little fingers in it. They also damaged one of the frames while they were working. I am angry. I can't paint it until they have sorted it out.

Whine over

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Tue 20-Nov-12 14:45:19

I hope your day goes ok State. Thanks for the pastries.

Hope you manage to get your work done Tee.

Good luck with the course Empress. Was it painful getting your tongue tie snipped once you came round from the GA?

Hope your conservatory gets sorted out Shaky. How annoying!

I've been to the doctors this morning and got antibiotics. Spent the rest of the day with a hot water bottle on my chest and dosed up on paracetamol. I have to drag myself out in the wind and rain shortly to pick up Ds, and his teacher wants to talk to me about strategies we can work on together for improving his speech.

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Tue 20-Nov-12 16:20:40

Thanks Dreamy. As far as I remember it was sore for a few days but that was it. I milked it like mad for ice cream grin.

Part of the point of mentioning it was that there's no such thing as being too late to have it done!

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Tue 20-Nov-12 20:53:40

Spoke to Ds's teacher for an hour today. He's behind developmentally in most areas, possibly all because of his speech. They're putting him in some small groups to help him interact and concentrate more. He is in his own little world most of the time and needs to be told umpteen times before he will do anything, and he rarely makes eye contact. She said to carry on with what we have been doing based on his last SALT course, and obviously back up what they are doing in school. He has another SALT assessment on Dec 7th, so we'll see how that goes. Hopefully if we can improve his communication then this temper will also improve - he's so frustrated all the time. sad

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Tue 20-Nov-12 21:30:22

Poor DSDreamy. His teacher sounds keen to help though. Feel free to tell me I'm talking bollocks, Dreamy, but is there any chance he's got an undiagnosed tongue tie? I had speech therapy as a kid.

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Tue 20-Nov-12 21:55:54

Actually, he was diagnosed with a slight tie at birth, but as he fed well (after a week of cup feeding, engorgement, mastitis etc) nothing was done about it. Hmmm… you may be onto something there. I will mention it to the speech therapist. Thanks Empress!

Tee2072 Wed 21-Nov-12 07:46:52

Morning all.

I thought LittleTee would be at least 12 before I had to literally drag him out of bed! Not a great start to my day.

Dreamy sounds like the school is being very supportive, so that's good. Good luck with it all.

Today I am picking up my new specs and then work work work to get this damn proposal in by Monday week. Of course, the contract is worth moocho moola so I should stop complaining and do it! grin

BonkeyMollocks Wed 21-Nov-12 09:43:33

Morning, how are we all?

I have a bloody cough and cold and the rain is making me miserable!

dreamy Your ds's teacher sounds really supportive. How are you feeling now?

State How are you? Must have been a tough few days!

<waves to everyone else>

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Wed 21-Nov-12 10:14:14

School are great. His teacher said it's best to create a paper trail early, of all the strategies we are doing to help him, in case he needs an educational psychologist in future. Because we've started early, we'll be able to get the help we might need much faster. Hopefully we won't need it though!

I'm feeling very feverish and shaky today. Started the ABs last night, and already I have painful wind. sad My breast is looking a little less red though, so hopefully I'm on the mend.

I'm waiting for the Milk Matters lady. She was supposed to be here at 9.30am...

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Wed 21-Nov-12 12:01:20

She just been, and she's been very helpful. He does have a tongue tie, and a lip tie. He also is very tight and 'hunched' in his shoulders and neck, probably due to the shoulder dystocia, which is affecting his breathing and movement. Also his skull is uneven and very flat in the area with all the nerves that control his face and mouth, and one side of his face is a little lower than the other. These things also may be preventing him from getting his wind up effectively, which then builds up through the day and by evening is very painful for him, which is why he bites, twists and thrashes.

She recommended he sees an osteopath for a few sessions first, then she'll review him. If we get the tt snipped now, it'll probably reattach within a couple of days because of the other problems, so we need to sort those first, then see if the tt needs snipping.

She was lovely, and it's great to have a plan of action and to know the reasons behind all the problems! smile

BonkeyMollocks Wed 21-Nov-12 16:48:14

Thats great Dreamy , theres not hing better than having a plan of action. It makes a huge difference just knowing that you have things to try! smile

So, I have just finished writing ds's invitations for this bloody party in a few weeks.....25! Yes thats right 25 !! <faints>

What the hell am I going to do with them? All i have is musical statues and a ton of balloons. Ds hates pass the parcel so thats out confused

Shaky Thu 22-Nov-12 00:29:46

25! <faints>

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Thu 22-Nov-12 11:48:51

That's brilliant, Dreamy; she sounds like just what you need.

Good luck....

I'm off to get my hair cut, being a cheapskate I wait til a local place is looking for models and then sign up. Thinking about a bob - my last place was very much jeans and comfort, but now I want something that looks smart and takes less than 2 mins in the morning. I'll post pics on FB for the Puddle verdict grin

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Thu 22-Nov-12 11:53:37

Did the Milk Matters lady ever turn up, Dreamy?

<leaves homemade bread, pot of lentil soup and large wodge of cheese for early lunch>

Glad there's a plan of action in place dreamy and you and babydreamy are back to normal soon xx

Feel like I've been away aaages, internet issues and being ridiculously busy.

Funeral went as well as it could, I felt a total arse though, I didn't know dps Gp that well, but blame the hormones/it being near the anniversary of loosing my grandma/seeing dp upset I was a mess, and when dps Grandma who I do know well and adore, went up to the coffin to lay a rose on it I was choking, atleast the <mad women> look from dp distracted him briefly, I was quite overwhelmed and shocked at how it all made me feel tbh.
Dps brother who we (and the rest of the family) haven't seen for three years made as many attempts to push us out and lord it up, we eventually called it a day when he walked into a group of us talking and stood directly in front of me and dp pushing us out, he's just not worth it. Dp understandably even more upset thanks to this.

Dd was 4 yesterday, it made us all a bit emotional as she's our familys youngest her suddenly being four really shows the passing of time since we lost my Grandma. We had a lovely day though, took her and her friend to mcds and met all the family at soft play after ds finished school, she had a lovely day --and was a bit of a diva about it all-- and I was rather pleased I managed to finish her cakes in time, one for school and one for family, and another one to make for this weekend when the ils visit her <fed up of cake> I'm also making a chocoholics giant cupcake today my mums friend ordered, I'm sick of the kitchen now.

So how is everyone doing?

<Leaves strawberry cake behind>

Tee2072 Thu 22-Nov-12 20:15:22

{{{State}}} and snuggles.

I think I've a few of you on my 'no I'm not okay thread' so I won't dwell on it here. Suffice it to say, I'm not okay.

But maybe I will be. Eventually.

Shaky Thu 22-Nov-12 23:25:17

How are you now Tee ::we know you are not ok, will a head shake do instead?::

<snuggles for everyone>

I have been painting, last night and today, I am aching. Conservatory is looking GOOD! Will put some pics on FB tomorrow when it's finished!

<passes Tee more caramac and more snuggles, and a big snuggle for little Tee> xxx

Tee2072 Fri 23-Nov-12 07:39:30

Morning all.

I'm a bit better, thanks Shaky. Had a decent sleep and have written down what I want to say to preschool today re A and being in pull ups. Toilet training has been a complete and utter failure., which is part of the stress.

I am looking forward to those pictures.

::puts out cakes, buns, cookies, biscuits, wine, cheese, crackers::

BonkeyMollocks Fri 23-Nov-12 10:16:53

Tee You ok? Not been out the puddle much....

Shaky look forward to pics!

I feel shit. I have a cough, cold, and a sore throat. Dh is pissing me off royally by being the laziest selfish shit ever. I have too much to do and I just want to crawl into bed and sleep....but no, someone has to do everything that needs doing. He will be being ignored until further notice!

Tee2072 Fri 23-Nov-12 10:48:05

Not really Bonkey. I'm exhausted, have a cough that won't quit, have been fibro flaring for what feels like months and now A is back in pull ups as toilet training as just failed.

I spoke to his teacher (he's home today) and she agrees pull ups are no big deal, but they are not allowed to clean him if he poos himself at school. hmm She's going to speak to the VP today and see if there's a way around this since I live a bit of a distance away and don't have a car, as what they usually do with poo accidents is call the parents.

I feel better about all that after speaking to her, but we still need to find a way to help A with all of this. He's off school today because he feels he can't go while in a pull up. He's so sad about it too. So I'll spend the weekend telling him differently!

giraffesCantFlyLikeReindeer Fri 23-Nov-12 10:52:52

Hello? Can I come and hide in here??

Oh tee, have just posted on your thread. hope you have good meds for yourself?

giraffesCantFlyLikeReindeer Fri 23-Nov-12 10:54:10

state thinking of you. Anniversarys are hard. Hope you had a nice time with dd too though x

BonkeyMollocks Fri 23-Nov-12 11:00:53

Tee I hope you feel better soon!

Why can't they clean him, thats just daft! And I would also say a form of neglect to leave him sat in poo for however long. ?

Pull ups aren't a big deal at all. My ds was in them until 3.8 months mainly because mummy was too lazy or had too many big things i.e. moving home getting in the way . He was dry within 3 days when he was ready. I swear i would do the same again! i hope he is ok!

Howdy giraffes smile

giraffesCantFlyLikeReindeer Fri 23-Nov-12 11:03:08

Hiya - everybody loves my special bracelet smile

BonkeyMollocks Fri 23-Nov-12 11:08:09

smile So pleased I could do it for you.

It seems i have a chirping Guinea pig, he decided to start at 6am this morning hmm , have just tried to find the noise (was worried) and its a happy noise. smile

He is happy enough to chirp (which i hear is quite rare) at 6am in the morning, in the pitch black hmm


Tee2072 Fri 23-Nov-12 11:10:46

I saw giraffes thanks!

I agree it's a form of neglect, Bonkey. Husband has suggested we offer to write a letter exempt the playgroup staff from accusations if they'll just clean his damn bottom!


<points to name change>

Need to get in the mood for the festive season!

TeeHollyandTeeIvy Fri 23-Nov-12 11:47:25

Me tooooo!



<drags out christmas tree and decs>

Morning all.

<Drags giraffes into the puddle to the best chair> stay here lovely, there's some right cowbags on mumsnet at this time of year x

Hope you get some help tee that's a mad protocol imo, I worked in a preschool and changing nappies and pull ups was part of the day, gloves on and get it done! We had children up to 5yo!

bonkey I am very envy of your chirping pig, I luffs them but alas me and dp agreed no pets, but they have so much character!

As for me I'm feeling sorry for myself, I've been too busy, too pregnant and I'm not getting enough sleep, I've not got a cold and feel horrendous so when dp took dcs to school I went back to bed but dragged myself out at 10 as ill never sleep tonight if not.

Bonkey I will paypal at about 4pm, was meant to go use Mums laptop this morning but just felt too rotten to move and my stupid phone won't let me on paypal. If your feeling rotten please don't feel the need to rush, ill send funds over and as long as its here by the 9th dec I'm not worried smile

<Leaves behind steaming hot porridge and a variety of toppings>

state Its done grin I don't mess around wink

Need to send you a pic on FB of the necklace though to make sure you like it. Will pm you later on smile

Wow you are fast smile have used a sharpie to write paypal on my hand and dps, gotta collect the boy from school then I'll head off to Mums laptop, I really should just buy a new charger for mine...

Sent you a pic on fb, let me know if its ok smile

giraffesCantFlyLikeReindeer Fri 23-Nov-12 14:08:54

Thanks! Feel like I have been ripped to pieces these last few days! Also had some levely messages though, need to focus on them. Trying to study just now, got an assignment to do!

Whats happened giraffes ?

<feels more time needs to be dedicated to MN!>

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Fri 23-Nov-12 14:11:50

I think a lot of us in here need cheering up, so I hope this picture helps a bit. grin

giraffesCantFlyLikeReindeer Fri 23-Nov-12 14:16:19

here bollockingmonkey Don't post on it though, I am hoping it might just die soon.

It is actually rediculas that I can't focus on studying ebcause of some cunt on here!

giraffes I know exactly how you feel I took a huge kicking on mn before I became stateofconfusion, it really effected me in real life, but as you have had the supportive messages outweighed the nasty ones and after a week away I shook it off and came back. There's plenty of people on here who seem to enjoy being shits because in rl they wouldn't dare, its easy behind a keyboard. Chin up, everyone knows what a wonderful person you are.

Have replied bonkey smile

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Fri 23-Nov-12 15:56:43

<wraps everyone in duvets>
<hands round hot water bottles and mugs of hot chocolate>
Giraffes, everyone who knows the slightest bit about you knows they're talking utter bollocks.

Oh giraffes thats shit! sad Some nasty buggers out there! You are one of the nicest genuine people around here! Try not to let it bother you too much! ((hugs))

Got it State will be posted Mon smile

Shaky Fri 23-Nov-12 22:03:31

Oh Giraffes I'm really sorry that you have been having such a hard time. I am in awe of you and your kindness < snuggles>

Thanks for the hot choc Empress yum.

My dp is currently trying to assemble a tv unit for the conservatory. He started at 8pm and has so far made one drawer! grin

Shaky My dh is the same. He spent two hours putting up one roller blind once. If we had a swear box it would have been full to bursting grin

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Fri 23-Nov-12 22:52:40

I hope you're feeling a bit better giraffes, and you've managed to get some studying done. Can't believe the nerve of some twats. Most people realise what wonderful things you did, and how kind you are, so I hope that knowing that gives you some comfort.

Also, baby hedgehoglets!! Does no one like my hedgehoglets?!!

I did Dreamy I did mean to mention it!
The one yawning is sooo cute! grin

Anyway, who could not like baby hodgehegs!

I am waiting for dh to get out the bath so I can make another point and go to bed yes I am childish and I am past caring atm

Shaky Fri 23-Nov-12 23:01:32

Dreamy they are gorgeous!

<goes to check how much of a tv unit is made>

It's getting there, probably only another 2 hours to go ......

I luff them dreamy I was only saying to dp yesterday we don't see the ole hedgepigs as often as I'm sure I did as a child, 5 minutes down the road he nearly killed us all avoiding squishing one!

Hope your ok giraffes x

What's he done bonkey? Would he like to sit on the twat bench with my not so (D)p.

I'm making yet another chocolate cake, 3rd this week... This one I'm keeping and eating though grin

I also had a very mad pregnant/christmas nut moment of madness today, and brought a 10ft light up inflatable santa, and then because I'm really mad got the snowman to match, tacky yes, but the dcs will be sooo excited they've both gazed in amazement at other peoples for years, I may make dp put them up tomorrow to show them grin

Shaky Fri 23-Nov-12 23:13:47

State my ds would faint in ecstasy at that!
Enjoy your chocolate cake, it's about time you got to eat one!
Is your dp still on the twat bench?

envy of your Santa!

It would get nicked/popped etc outside my flat!

He is just a lazy selfish arse *warning may turn into a rant* . I have felt shit this week, tired, coldy, sick, and he just fucking sleeps and does piss all. I get up every morning and take ds to school, I go out again to collect him, I have been working my arse off to get orders out/sell stuff so we have some money for Xmas. Yesterday tipped it though...ds got the headteachers award which he had to collect today from assembly. Parents were allowed to go and watch. I asked dh if he was coming (ds would have loved it) , he said no because he has to work tonight. I told him he could come with me drop ds off, go straight to watch him and then he could go back to bed for the day if he wanted (genuinly wouldn't have minded) but NO, he couldn't be arsed sad
He know hes in the shits, but its worse at the moment than he is normally. I just want him to pick ds up once a week or something just so that i can have a teeny break from the boring walk I have to do twice a day.
He is well and truly on the twat bench until further notice.

Top it all off I may need to do something poas to rule that out for the nausea that I have had for a few weeks. My friend bought it up yesterday so I am slightly stressed about that.....I think its no but gah!

Wow, long rant there, must have needed to come out hmm

Shaky Fri 23-Nov-12 23:57:34

this is what dp has spent all night building

He has finally finished and it is looking good.

He has another one to do for the lounge tomorrow night <evil laugh> [grin>

Shaky Fri 23-Nov-12 23:58:34

Ah feck, I fucked up my grin grin

Shaky Sat 24-Nov-12 00:01:39

Bonkey do you really think you need to POAS?
<scowls at all the dps on the twat bench>

No idea. I don't feel it and i take my pill same line everyday without fail but i have had a few rough bouts of sickness and squits in the last few weeks.

I keep getting waves of feeling sick....but i thought it was just this bug. Mostly after a meal and late morning before lunch (don't eat brekkie)

Spoke to friend yesterday and she has made ne paranoid .

I knew with ds two weeks in even after a negative i still knew. I think no but now i need to prove it iyswim confused


Can your Dh stop staring at his work? grin

And i bloody hope not atm!

Im stressed and busy enough as it is.....and would very much like to get rat arsed on xmas day!

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Sat 24-Nov-12 00:13:20

<snuggles Bonkey> Keep us posted!!!

I want some Puddle opinions on this thread. Either the OP is a genuine NM refugee who doesn't know how to use punctuation & really thinks it's ok to dye her toddler Tyson's hair (in which case HOW do I explain politely why everyone thinks she's having a laugh?) or she's not, in which case it's fine to carry on taking the piss. And I'm not sure which.

Scan read grin

I genuinely have no idea grin

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Sat 24-Nov-12 00:28:32

Me neither so far...

Congrats to your DS Bonkey, bet he's proud!

Awww yes he loved it. Kept waving at me and doing air punches grin

Guess what he got....his award was....wait for it......dum dum DUM ......a sticker hmm

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Sat 24-Nov-12 00:38:15

It's the honour though grin

DD's desperate to be made a class prefect BECAUSE...

She will then get to wear a plain red tie instead of a stripy one. And while the school has strict rules about the number of stripes that have to be visible on a standard tie, since the plain ones have no stripes that apparently means they can be worn to any length the wearer chooses.

The priorities of a 12 year old!

Chocolate brownie?

Sounds like a good reason grin

Chocolate brownie would very much loved! smile

Shaky Sat 24-Nov-12 00:41:44

I've just read it and I'm truly baffled.
It looks like someone has escaped been banned from the other dark side and has no idea about MN.
It makes me sad, if I had been treated like that when I was a newbie, I would never have come back sad
Of course that is if it is genuine, I really don't know these days, I am taken in far too easily

I think these two will shaky and our 2yo nephews visiting tomorrow so I think we have to atleast inflate them briefly for them all. I thought they were the height of crap years ago but now I don't care the dcs will LOVE it, and they were a total steal £25 for both of them!

Dp is on the twat bench, nothing serious he was just a bit grumpy and threw dds dressing gown at me instead of passing it, and sulked earlier when I wouldn't share a blanket, I'm pregnant and stroppy, he's greiving and stroppy, we are a formidable pair!

Ooh bonkey do you think, perhaps? Maybe? I had no idea I was pregnant with dd until a particulaly pathetic row with dp, I was sulking upstairs and tidying the bathroom, found the 2nd test from the pack I got ds' bfp on, still to this day I can't put my finger on why I poas, but it was a bfp and I was 8wks!

Will check that thread out now empress I was a netmum shock a chair mum and ran a weekly meet up for over a year, met a very good friend, but quit the forum --was banned for being a meanie pants-- great site for local bits but mumsnets home, yknow, comfy.
The forum is just a bit mental and sparkly for me.

Chocolate cake is cooked ill be decorating it tomorrow, the giant cupcake I made went down a storm, got a lovely thank you message from Mums friend whos birthday it is and her husband who 'hired' me.

Anyway must go to bed, ils all arriving tomorrow and I am shattered still.

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Sat 24-Nov-12 00:59:15

<hands round chocolate brownies>

The problem is, so I decide to believe she's genuine and offer to help her fit in. What do I say??? Start using punctuation and capital letters, drop the hun and change your ideas on what's appropriate for a toddler?

Or I could start reminiscing about the time Honeydragon Immac'd her baby....

Shaky Sat 24-Nov-12 01:28:17

Yep, definitely drop the Hun, use some punctuation and learn to spell a bit <takes off judgy pants and chucks them in the bin>

You are much braver than me Empress I am a massive coward that wouldn't say boo to a goose and wouldn't recognise a troll it it bit me on the arse.


Shaky Sat 24-Nov-12 01:30:18

shock state you were a NM shock shock shock

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Sat 24-Nov-12 01:30:26

Well, I've posted some advice. I thought about including the bit about her son's name being unpopular for obvious reasons but that just felt too personal.

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Sat 24-Nov-12 01:51:29

Nope, she was offended so it's a very good thing I didn't post any comments about the name.

<puts coffee machine on, snuggles down in duvet & snaffles rest of the brownies>

Shaky Sat 24-Nov-12 01:58:34

Christ alive Empress I saw it (was lurking in the corner) you were really sweet.

Let her get on with it, you were only trying to help.

<tucks in Empress and hands more brownies and coffee, snuggles up in the duvet >

Shaky Sat 24-Nov-12 01:59:34

Night, night xxx

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Sat 24-Nov-12 02:03:35

Thanks Shaky. <snuggles back>

Somehow it's really hard to remember that TM could be reading this too! It feels like our private corner of MN. I'm not going to post on the thread again but I'm going to keep lurking, it's too good to miss.

Night xxx

Morning all.

I was indeed a hun shaky in my defence I was young, lonely and all my friends had headed off for uni and my health visitor recomended it. I was there a year, got told off too many times because I stupidly thought advice and opinions were more use than aww hun, u no ur baba best mwah xxxx etc <vom> saw a few threads about how mnet was a bit tougher came for a look and never went back. --apart from for a laugh--

I'm off to decorate my chocolate cupcake, I will of course let you all be official testers smile

giraffesCantFlyLikeReindeer Sat 24-Nov-12 16:48:42

thanks guys. smile Had a horrible dream last night to do with children having cancer. Supposed to be going to a charity ceilidh tonight, have paid for the ticket. Can't decide if going or not! Not in mood and also asthma being playing up. I need to shake myself and get onw ith things. I burst in to tears at uni yesterday because their Christmas tree outside looked exactly like the one at the childrens hospital.

Cake sounds great state

Oooh monkey let us know how you get on with stick!!

TeeHollyandTeeIvy Sat 24-Nov-12 17:02:24

Hi all

Hope you're feeling okay, giraffe

I couldn't even read that thread empress

Do keep us posted bonkey

I'm feeling a bit better today. Hopefully it will stick!

Oh bloody hell I am NOT posting anymore cake pics on facebook, I need a break from making cake and now have another order <sobs> the small bit of extra cash is excellent so I can't turn it down but crikey am I'm fed up of my kitchen!

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Sat 24-Nov-12 18:05:36

It's a car crash, Tee, and the OP's deadly serious (or a bloody good actor). It reminds me of the Swimbabies thread or that woman who kept defending her right to write in txtspk.

<hugs Giraffe>

Will keep you posted but don't get your hopes up! I am 99% sure its a -! plus you will have to wait until Monday

Hope your ok giraffes <passes comfort food>

Glad your feeling a bit better Tee!

I have just ordered some business cards , my home printed ones aren't quite cutting the mustard!

Ooh bonkey speaking of your jewelry, have you thought of doing any local fairs/school fetes etc? Someone my Mum knows did one with hers --which my Mums said Is no where near as nice as that net lady you know state-- and made a nice hundred or so £! And a lot of our local schools advertise for local businesses cakes/jewelry/sewing etc to bulk the stalls out.

Well dd and ds have been awful today, totally showed us up in front of the ils, I could actually cry I am so fed up of the daft behaviour, they are such wonderful children, why do they do it?

I have been offered a few but its getting there! They seem to all be just after school which I can't do because of ds. I tried to get a table for ds's school fair but they were all taken hmm me thinks some slight favouritism on the psa . I will be on it damn quickly next year!

For this year it will just have to be through FB, as of Jan I am going to do everything 'properly' so if I don't make money I'm stuffered!

grin at net lady

They do it because its programmed into them as ds does it too sometimes. This too will pass! {{hugs}}

Ah yes can't say I'd want to attempt to man a stall with a dc in tow.

They're both in bed, sound asleep, I think things are just too busy and exciting atm, its just so frustrating repeating myself 4 times per instruction!

And dp is firmly back on the twat bench <glares>

Ahh, my dh has apologised and said he will make more effort....then he hoovered grin

He's halfway back from the twatbench!

TeeHollyandTeeIvy Sat 24-Nov-12 19:53:20

After what just happened here, my husband is off the twat bench for a good long while.

::lights a cigarette (even though I don't actually smoke any more)::


grin <giggles like a daft teenage girl>

Well my dp is just an arse when his family are around and I really want to have it out with the dick head but can't. Its nothing major again just lots of petty twat bagged ness.

Whats happened Tee?

<sniffs in lovely smell of smoke>

TeeHollyandTeeIvy Sat 24-Nov-12 20:10:44

hmm Do I have to spell it out, Bonkey?!?!?! Really?!?!?!?!?


Oh shit blush <gets it>

<cold blocked head still present>


Shaky Sat 24-Nov-12 21:21:45

Go Tee! grin

That thread is just crazy Empress it made me start talking in welsh! confused

Have you looked at vista print for your business card Bonkey they do free ones, you just have to pay for postage. I have had loads from them for the midwifery team, just paid about £3 postage for 500 cards! They have special offers all the time.

I'm sitting in the conservatory, listening to the rain grin

I got them from Vista print Shaky smile Not the free ones because every other bugger who makes jewllery has the same but by the time postage was paid it worked out at 2p per card. Stupidly excited blush
And at the end they showed me loads of pens/t-shirts/magnets etc obviously trying ti make me spend more , they looked lush! shock

Might treat myself to a official Bonkey Business pen wink

Shaky the conservatory looks fantastic.


I've changed again.

Shaky Sat 24-Nov-12 21:45:52

I have had a mug that got broken a couple of weeks ago, a pen, a bag and a notebook from them. I love vista print (I have seen the same design from my cards in loads of places)

Shaky Sat 24-Nov-12 21:47:02

oh loving the new name Tee

Thank you!

Oh I want a mug envy

tee christmas name! Back! NOW!

And shakey it does look fab!

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Sat 24-Nov-12 21:50:32

Has MaryZ convinced you it's too early for Christmas names Tee? Glad you're feeling better, and that you've had, er, a good evening!

Shaky, your conservatory looks so cosy and stylish. I wish I had one. I love the sound of rain on the roof. envy

Empress, you were lovely on that thread, one of the few who didn't jump on the band wagon of OP bashing. If it is real, then hopefully the op will understand what's gone on thanks to you.

Hope your Dp is off the twatbench soon State, and your dc's are better behaved tomorrow!

I'm kinda enjoying this name, Bonkey. Sorry to be a traitor to the cause. grin

How are you Dreamy? Do you want me to hold the baby? ::begs::

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Sat 24-Nov-12 22:21:48

He's great thanks Tee, I'm just about to feed him (hot water bottle at the ready for my poor nipples after!). Do you want me to give you a shout at 4am when he wakes up?

I don't think our health insurance is going to cover the Osteopathy. sad Hopefully we'll be able to use some savings to pay for it, as everyone I've spoken to who has experience of it says how much of a difference it makes. I hate to think he's in pain, and I would love to be able to feed him without it bloody hurting my nipples!

<Packs bags and waddles off to shakys> I think its a reasonable place to sulk off to, she is a mw after all and that conservatory looks so so inviting smile

I love the new name tee

dreamy I really hope something helps soon, ill be awake around 4am for the hourly pee, ill give him a cuddle!

I've just had a bit of a funny turn, calling my mw tomorrow, felt very hot all of a sudden, then dizzy, then sick, then desperate for a drink and food, so had toast and a banana and then the same again feel a bit better now but I think I'm going to head off to bed as I'm feeling shaky, had this with ds once but it was July and very HOT, dp has had the heating on all day... Hmm who knows, anyway mw tomorrow!

Sounds like low blood sugar, state. Have you had a GTT for GD?

dreamy if I'm up, and I often am, I'll be glad to have him!

I have, had GTT in september all came back well within normal, strange thing is I'd ate well today, and just had an hour nap, I'd have understood had I been really busy and hungry, will ring MW first thing tomorrow.

Shaky Sat 24-Nov-12 23:36:00

<plumps up cushions and drags out poshest, comfiest blankets. Robs ds' stool for state to put feet on. Puts on kettle to make hot chocolate and fill hot water bottle>

Well, hello State welcome to my conservatory, all the puddle is welcome here.

<brings in steaming mugs of hot chocolate and MAHOOSIVE plate of chocolate hobnobs>

Come and have a snuggle, it's cosy in here grin

Shaky Sat 24-Nov-12 23:38:23

Did you have your iron levels checked state? Are you taking iron tablets?
<stern midwife face>

giraffesCantFlyLikeReindeer Sun 25-Nov-12 00:02:53

Hello. Just home from a ceilidh - danced 2 dances and now my lungs are fucked!

You could call it "bonkeybracelets"?

showtunesgirl Sun 25-Nov-12 00:17:04

<collapses into The Puddle> Right that's it. Done and dusted. DD's first birthday party and DH's 34th all in one day. I have cooked for England and now I'm knackered.

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Sun 25-Nov-12 00:36:34

<stares admiringly around conservatory>

<starts massaging State's shoulders>

Love Bonkeybracelets, Giraffes! How were the 2 dances?

Show, have some of Shaky's hobnobs. You're a heroine.

Great new name, Tee.

Thanks, Dreamy, I'm trying!

giraffesCantFlyLikeReindeer Sun 25-Nov-12 00:59:26

I did the dashing white sargent and the slosh!! grin Chest and shoulders ache and am wheezing and coughing my guts up! I wanted to dance so badly - I love ceilidhs and the disco music was fab! I should have stayed at home, but had already paid for ticket and it was a charity night. Plus I wanted to show off that I fitted in to my dress now have lost 2.5stone.

show I am impressed!!

showtunesgirl Sun 25-Nov-12 01:20:34

Things that I made for DD's party:

A cake spelling out her name made from individual molds
Lemon drizzle cake
Vegan chocolate, lime and rum cake
White bean and roast garlic dip. DSis made an enormous focaccia to go with this.
Egg sandwiches - home baked bread
Tabbouleh - DSis made this
Butternut squash and cheese pasties

Things I made for DH's party:
Butter chicken
Chickpea and mushroom curry
Goan style lentil curry

13 people ate the latter and we all sat down and crammed round our extending table and tucked in.

At DD's party, the flat was rammed. DD wouldn't stop eating either today and ate a hell of a lot of her cake which was basically made from blueberry muffin mix which I know she loves.

This is why I'm tired as I spent all of today and last night cooking everything from scratch and now I need to wind down enough to sleep!

Showy I may have to go lie down after reading that list and I've only been up for an hour!

Today is operation move the books. If I don't return by lunch, call in the bloodhounds and a search party...

I've not had any bloods since about 25wks shaky no reply from my mw, will keep trying though, I do feel better today after a good sleep but I'm being cautious.

show glad dh and dd had a lovely day, that sounds some glorious food!

Were meant to be off to the uks 3rd biggest christmas market today, dd isn't right though and I feel pathetic, I may dust off the maclaren strap her down and have something to lean on, dp won't approve though!

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Sun 25-Nov-12 10:21:02

Wow, show! That is impressive!

Baby skipped the 4am feed, and woke at 7.30! grin Unfortunately I've hardly slept all night. sad Dh was out training, and didn't come to bed til about 3am, and I just can't sleep when I know he's going to come in and wake me up. Grrr.

Hope you're ok State. I had a funny turn in Sainsburys when I was pregnant. GTT was fine, and iron levels were good, so it was just one of those annoying pregnancy things I suppose. Hope you get in touch with your MW.

Shaky, you seem to have a puddle in your conservatory! wink

I have returned from completing Phase 2 of the great book organisation of 2012.

Phase 3 on hold until I can get the new bookcase put together.

::falls over::

How's it going tee? All my books are lonely and boxed in the garage as when we moved here we knew it wasn't forever and it was a case of leave what we don't need boxed, I miss them though.

Feeling more human today, but crikey are my legs tired, had a nice wander at the christmas market but i realised I HATE crowds! Dd has a rotten cough and was up most of last night but dp dealt with her thank goodness, but tonight she sounds awful, may be a trip to the GP first thing I think!

<Lays out tray of giant chocolate cupcake for everyone>

State Both ds and me have the buggering cough! Its awful! Good to know your feeling better!
I hate crowds too. I avoid them as much as possible!

I am brutal with my books sad I have too be, we have no space - t'is why i love my Knidle so much!

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Sun 25-Nov-12 21:55:48

Ds1 has the cough too. sad He really wanted to see 'the big truck' though (he loves trucks), so we went to the shopping centre to see the Coca cola truck. He couldn't stop staring at it! He's feeling rotten now though, didn't want any dinner so he's gone to bed dosed up on calpol.

Theres so much going round this year!

I haven't has a week where i have been compleatly well since the middle of Oct. Always seems to be something!

Hope your ds is better soon Dreamy .

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Sun 25-Nov-12 22:05:06

Thanks Bonkey. Think he'll probably be staying home from school tomorrow, as he's coughing away in bed and he's red hot. I'm sure it won't be long before he's sick. Hopefully he'll fight it off quick!

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Sun 25-Nov-12 22:24:17

DD and I have the cough too hmm

Loved the pic of you and DS1, Dreamy. I hope he's better soon.

I need a Christmas name, any ideas creative Puddlehumpers?

EmpressOfTheElves ??

EmpressOfSantasElves ??

EmpressOfTheNorthPole ??

I shall think, I'm sure I better....

Shaky Sun 25-Nov-12 23:31:02

We've all got the cough and snot too [Sad]

I was fine yesterday but ds was snotty and coughing, but now we are all snotty and coughing.

Empress step away from the hair dye wink, it will end in tears, come here for a snuggle instead.

I'm brutal with my books too, they get offered to my mum first and if she has read then, they get offered to my sister, if she doesn't want them they go to the charity shop.

I haven't read a book in months as I seem to spend all my free time on here grin

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Sun 25-Nov-12 23:39:00

I think you're right Shaky! <comes for a snuggle>

Hmmm I like EmpressOfTheNorthPole so far, Bonkey.

The only stuff that seems to work on my cold is Day Nurse. I know to the minute when I'm due the next dose.

Well dd is home from nursery, she just hasn't slept enough and they play outside a lot so I'd rather keep her in, but I can't decide whether to bother with the drs? She's coughing all evening/night but is otherwise fine today, just a bit snotty. Finally got through to my MW, no one can see me until thursday, booked that apt and as soon as I hung up remembered I see my consultant that day anyway, so I now need to move mw apt <sigh>

I'm just seriously fed up atm.

Oh State sad

Hope you and your dd get feel better soon!

I'm still full of cold, but happy because I have 11 packets to post today!

Shopping later. Problem: All i want to eat and all I have eaten in about a week is coco pops and sandwiches hmm . Although I do quite fancy some chocolate....

I too have the cough that will not quit. I've decided a trip to GP will be wasted so I'm dosing up with over the counter cough medicine. If it's not gone in another few days I'll see someone.

state My husband and I couldn't live without our books around us, although there are still several boxes in the garage. Hence the organizing and new cases with are brilliant and huge and deep. All books should be up by the end of the year. We've only been in the house just over a year, don't rush us!! grin

Empress I like Empress of the North Pole, myself.

Spoke to LittleTee's CM today about the pull up situation. She's not thrilled, but she understands. Not like she has a choice, unless she wants to drop him, but doesn't seem like she wants to. He'll get to pants when he's ready.

Must dash back to school to get him. Later!

Dd is on the sofa watching crap christmas dvds, dp is upstairs sorting the dcs bedrooms and I'm ignoring the washing up screaming at me from the kitchen. I think I'm at the 'beenpregnantforeverandtheweeksaredraaaaagging' stage, scan on thurs and this little one gets its eviction date, its just so hard trying to plan and organise christmas when we've no idea what this baby will be like, and none of the sodding family will give straight answers!

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Mon 26-Nov-12 12:24:35

Don't think there's much the dr can do about a cough State, unless she's wheezy or has had it for over a week. sad

Ds has stayed home today. He's got a temp and he's been up loads in the night coughing. sad He stayed in be til 11.30am, and now we're watching Charlie and Lola in our pjs.

I love my books too, but we've run out of shelf space in our tiny house so some have had to go into storage. sad Hopefully Santa is bringing us kindles so we don't have to buy any more. I'll never get rid of the ones we have though, I get very sentimentally attached to books.

No wheezing and its only been 24hrs its become an issue iyswim, no temp or anything either, she is quieter than usual and laying about watching tv which is rare for her but I'm not overly worried tbh. She stayed in bed when dp and ds got up, then went for breakfast and came and joined me in bed until 10am, despite being skint I am so glad dp is off work atm I really have no idea what I'd do without him. <Removes dp from the twat bench briefly>

Hope your ds is better soon, its rotten when they aren't well. How are things with baby dreamy going? Any relief yet, or response from insurance?

God I feel like crud again. With my period starting on top of yet another fibro flare.


<chucks Tee cakes and chocolate>

Oh its so quiet everywhere tonight!!!


<snuggles down in corner with hot chocolate!>

showtunesgirl Mon 26-Nov-12 21:35:33

Ssssh, I'm having a meltdown. Let me have it in peace! <hides under duvet>

Oh no...what wrong? sad

<passes hot chocolate>

showtunesgirl Mon 26-Nov-12 21:40:01

Just the tiredness of the weekend catching up with me. It's not easy throwing two parties in one day and doing ALL the catering yourself and then having to look after DD and clear up the next day.

Awww, I'm dreading ds's birthday weekend in two weeks and thats just one!

Early night a option?

snowtunesgirl Mon 26-Nov-12 21:51:00

DH has gone out to get fish and chips and then it's straight off to bed with me.

I have a ton of ishoos going on in my head though. I think the being back at work, having been there for almost a month, is only now hitting home.

snowtunesgirl Mon 26-Nov-12 21:51:29

How old will DS be Bonkey?

5 sad

My boys all growing up sad

Flys by far too quickly!



DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Mon 26-Nov-12 22:24:57

Insurance won't cover osteopathy sad but we're going ahead with it anyway. I'm desperate! We go for an initial assessment on Monday, and see where we go from there.

Tee, sad Just what you need on top of everything else. Hope you're feeling better really soon, and you have a lovely short period!

This cough thing is a stinker. Ds stayed in bed til 11.30am, then came down in his pjs and watched tv til 5pm, when he said he was tired and wanted to go to bed. shock He managed to keep down about half a crumpet all day. sad Hope everyone else who has it feels better soon.

Show, after what you pulled off I think you deserve to sleep for a week!

Glad you got the result you wanted Bonkey. although we're going to need new puddle bumps soon cos State and Brian (wherever she is!) will have puddle babies soon!

snowtunesgirl Mon 26-Nov-12 22:39:29

If anyone wants a really cool way of making a personalised cake, can I recommend this. I bought these and made DD's cake with them and they looked amazing!

Negative? Did I miss something big? <goes back through thread>

Hope it passes quickly tee <crosses legs and stops wishing the next few weeks away as the joy af will return>

Hurrah bonkey glad you got the result you wanted.

<Squeeze> show, hope a good nights sleep helps.

I hope it helps dreamy let us know how it goes, and hope dc1 is better soon, dd perked up around 4 and was then a total swine at bedtime and has only just fell asleep, so no nursery again tomorrow <weeps>

bonkey 5 seems soo big doesn't it? I was very emotional when ds was 5 in July, also the slow realisation this evening that he will be 6 when dc3 is 6mo!

I've had a crap day, no real reason just fed up and tired and dc squables, it was topped off by an arsey text from my aunt see here I'm sick of being tearful, I never usually cry!

ShakiestDude Mon 26-Nov-12 23:07:33

Congratulations Bonkey grin on your BFN!

I still feel crap, we are all full of cold, all coughing and snotty and sneezing <snuggles under duvet>

Our burglar alarm was going off at 4 am (even though it want set because we were in the house, asleep) because the batteries wanted changing. Nearly gave me a feckin heart attack it did. How it didn't wake ds up I don't know. It was like when you are dreaming that your alarm clock is going off but it turns out to be your mobile ringing, and you haven't got a clue what is going on.

I have been having lots of fun on the dudes thread, it's been lovely and fun, no bun fights, bitching, swearing, deletions or anything, not like mumsnet at all. It was ace! grin

ShakiestDude Mon 26-Nov-12 23:08:04

Hence my new name by the way

Both of my dcs slept through the fire alarm shaky yet if I sneeze 3 miles away I can disturb them both! Hope you get a good nights sleep tonight.

<Goes to look for dude thread>

ShakiestDude Tue 27-Nov-12 00:06:51
ShakiestDude Tue 27-Nov-12 00:30:53

I meant to go to bed 2 hours ago but I'm still here, snuggled in my dressing gown, under a cosy blanket on the sofa, listening to the rain.

I really want to move and go to bed but I just too bloody comfy.

Someone please come and kick my back side, take the iPad out of my hands an kick my sorry ass up the stairs to bed, or I'll be here all night again

Whoops I'm a bit late I'm afraid shaky hope you eventually went to bed!

Another crap day in the state household, dd refused to go to sleep until stupidly late, then ds was awake a few times then they were both very grumpy this morning, dd didn't want to go to nursery again but despite the cough she is well enough and the longer I allow her at home the harder to get her back, I feel like shit though, I went through a phase of hating school and I feel so vile making her go sad

Also the cake order I started for a friend, got a text half way through putting it in the oven that they 'forgot' payday is next week and she'll pay me then, really needed the money today as my budget is strictly followed and I'm now down the price of ingredients/decorations/box and board, ofc I've had to say that's ok otherwise I'm left wasting my time and money completely but I am SO annoyed!

Bleurgh. Another bad nights sleep compounded by this damn cough. LittleTee is at GP this afternoon after school, so I'm going have them listen to my chest as well.

I am off to London on Saturday for a girlie night out with my mates from the Forty Towers thread. We're all old with young children, if anyone wants to come join us on the thread! Or for a drink on Saturday. It may kill me, the way I feel, but we're hoping we'll get some sympathy booze as I'll be using my stick all weekend. grin

And I want my money back on my Mirena. What happened to no periods?!?! Although it is very light. (TMI)

YAYA on BFN bonkey.

Shakey I hope you went to bed. ::stern look::

LittleTee told his teacher today 'But I don't want to go to the toilet.' to which we both replied 'Too bad.' So at least they are following through with their end of the bargain.

I should be working but this sofa is too comfy and this coffee too yummy...

Urgh! Still can't seem to shift this bloody cold!

What time did you get in to bed Shaky ? grin

ShakiestDude Tue 27-Nov-12 11:30:59

I did go to bed, not long after my last post last night.

I was just TOO comfy to move.

Oh I would qualify to join the forty towers now grin

Some day I'll remember that no one really gets my humour here on MN.

In a minute people are going to come along and ask me if I'm being bullied. This feels very familiar...

Now I really am going to go do some stuff...

Mumsnets a bit odd atm tee just ignore!

I'm not upset State. I'm actually highly amused.

I knew the POs would come running. I'm just surprised at some of the people coming across as POs.

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Tue 27-Nov-12 18:10:54

I think several people are just confused. Either that or they think you're serious.

The Puddlehumpers get you, Tee! <snuggles>

They think I'm serious, Empress. That's why I am so amused.

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Tue 27-Nov-12 18:40:00

Ooh it's not pretty...

I'm sure. I haven't hidden it, but I'm not reading it either. Just quietly letting it drop off my TIO.

How are you Empress?

Eh. I decided to post again.

MN is truly a strange place. Not just now. Always.

I think it gets worse this time of year, darker evenings and what not. We get you tee smile

I'm eating cake off cuts and custard, disgraceful I know, but anyone want some grin

I may put some christmas decorations up tomorrow... Pretty lights and sparkly things may lift this stupid mood I'm in. Oh and by put them up I mean sit and direct dp.

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Tue 27-Nov-12 20:29:44

I just said to Dh the other day that I couldn't believe all these perfect saintly people on mn who say they never judge others. Surely most people do it to some extent. I was starting to think I was an evil, nasty cow. I don't stare or make comments about people, I just judge in my head, but I can't help it!
I got your joke Tee. I think some people deliberately ignore something being a joke so they can make a point about not knowing a poster, not being cliquey, etc. But it was clearly a joke, whether someone knows you or not!

I am resisting putting my decorations up yet State. I plan on doing it on Monday if Ds is well enough for school. He's really not well at the moment. He asked to go to bed at 4pm tonight, so I took him. But then I was texting my Mum telling her how he was, and realised he had been saying the light was hurting his eyes, he was floppy, and his feet were really cold. I phoned the drs and they said to bring him straight in. I woke him up and took him in his PJs. Dr said he has croup and flu with a tummy bug, not nice but a lot better than what had crossed my mind. Poor little guy has never been ill like this before. sad

ShakiestDude Tue 27-Nov-12 20:40:56

Oh Dreamy the poor little boy, bless him. I hope he's better soon <snuggles> How's the baby? Is the feeding going any better?

Tee it's bonkers out there and mad as a box of greggs sausage rolls. Stay here. ::gives back stern look::

<sits on Tee so she can't escape back into the crazy thread>

Oh Dreamy thats poo sad

Must be awful for the little ones!

Poor ds1 dreamy hope he's on the mend soon.

Dd still has a cough but is well in herself all day so I have 3hrs each day child free to slowly decorate the house, I get my section date thursday and want to be all prepared incase I'm asked to go in next week, not being able to --tell dp how to do it right-- decorate the house would stress me so were starting tomorrow as it does take us days, can't face doing it at the weekend with the dcs here.

ShakiestDude Tue 27-Nov-12 21:14:50

This time 3 years ago I had been on labour ward in agony for 12 hours and was begging for an epidural. Ds was born at 11.41 the next day! I've been thinking about it since 9 am and it's a hell of a long time. How the hell did I survive that long in labour? I ended up with a section after pushing for a lifetime 2 hours with him being back to back and refusing to come out.

Happy 3rd Birthday for tomorrow ds!

I've got a hospital appointment tomorrow, so he needs to go to nursery. How the buggery bollocks am I going to get him there once he has opened his presents? He won't want to move.

Happy Birthday for tomorrow shakyboy!!

I got my two to abandon the presents and go to school/nursery by letting them take cake or sweets to share with friends at snack time, this is common practice at their school though.

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Tue 27-Nov-12 21:20:44

He's feeding a bit better actually Shaky, although we haven't done anything yet! Typical! He still bites and pinches though, and my nipples really hurt in between feeds. We're seeing the Osteopath on Monday, so we'll see how we get on.

Ds1's having a really rough time with this illness. Whenever he's had to take time off playgroup before it's because he's vomited, but actually he is right as rain in himself, so we have a nice day playing at home. But this time he's so ill, he doesn't get out of bed till after 11am, then wants to go back to bed by 4/5pm. All he does in between is snuggle on my lap with a blanket and tell me every 10 minutes that he has a nasty cough, he's too hot, too cold, his eyes hurt, his nose hurts, his legs hurt etc. sad He's kept down a slice of toast today, and a few slices of cucumber, so that's a bit more than yesterday at least.

I got a lovely parcel from Bonkey today to cheer me up. smile

Oh no poor DS1, Dreamy. The flu is horrid. I hope he feels better soon.

Happy birthday for tomorrow Shakyboy!

Forgot to say, LittleTee and I at the GP today. No new advice about toilet training except to keep doing what we're doing. My cough is just a cough and I got no good drugs. Why does adult cough medicine all taste like licorice. envy <-- sick, not envy. I hate licorice.

I think it might be time for bed...

Happy birthday for tomorrow Shakyboy! smile
We will be doing pressies after school on ds's bday! No way the monkey will get to school otherwise!

Dreamy sad I had flu in March. I have never been so ill in my life. I think if my flat was on fire I would have seriously thought twice about if I could really be arsed to get out of bed wink . Must be bloody awful for little ones when they just don't understand! Keep his fluids up if you can! I got dehydrated which stopped me getting better. Dyrolyte (sp?) is good stuff, even just a little bit!

Tee Hot honey and lemon!

That's actually what the doctor said, Bonkey! So much for modern medicine!!!!

Just call me DrBonkey wink

Seriously, does help! I have been on it and today its slightly better no idea if its just decided to bugger off or its the hot lemon .

ShakiestDude Tue 27-Nov-12 21:40:15

Dreamy bless him. He must be feeling bloody rotten, poor lad sad

ShakiestDude Tue 27-Nov-12 21:43:26

My best cough cure is simple linctus in hot water from the kettle. Sip it slowly and it really, really soothes and stops the awful tickle that sets me off.

ShakiestDude Tue 27-Nov-12 21:45:49

You okay under there Tee, I hope I'm not squashing you too much.
I'll let you out if you promise to go straight to bed and not venture back into the twilight zone. I'm watching!

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Tue 27-Nov-12 21:52:10

Happy Birthday for tomorrow LittleShaky!

Ds is drinking lots of water, and we give him a spoonful of honey when he'll have it. He hasn't wee'd much though. Dr said its ok as long as he's wee'd once today.

God I hate liquorice with a passion Tee. Bloody awful stuff. I'm sure cough medicine didn't used to be all liquorice flavour, but it is almost impossible to find one that isn't these days.

I am in bed Shaky, you can relax now!

Vile stuff, dreamy.

ShakiestDude Tue 27-Nov-12 21:58:56

Ok Tee Sleep well, <snuggles>

ShakiestDude Tue 27-Nov-12 22:01:23

Dreamy simple linctus doesn't taste of liquorice and its as cheap as chips from any chemist. It's better than any of the fancy, vile dead expensive ones out there.

Just bought a fairy door for Mr Elfy! <excited>

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Tue 27-Nov-12 22:06:03

But is it as tasty as a non-liquorice cough medicine Shaky? I actually love cough medicine if it's not liquorice, it's probably a good job I can't find any…

ShakiestDude Tue 27-Nov-12 22:23:05

It is THE original non liquorice sort < taps nose>

Trust me I'm a nurse/midwife, I know about these things grin

I've not had cough medicine since I was very small, the dcs one is blackcurrant and stains anything that's brave enough to be in the same room.

ShakiestDude Tue 27-Nov-12 23:04:32

I only gave ds cough medicine once. He had 4 dirty nappies in a row and nursery demanded that I came out of work and took him to the doctors. The doctor said "yeah, cough medicine always gives them the runs"
I have never given him cough medicine since

snowtunesgirl Tue 27-Nov-12 23:13:55

What the hell is going on with November? This November has been shit. I now have a sick DD AND DH AGAIN!

DD has a temperature and so does DH and he's laid out on the sofa and hasn't had his dinner.

I am bloody exhausted as I'm still clearing up vestiges of the party on Saturday. It's amazing the amount of packaging baby toys come in and the recycling bin is full.

show Im with you there!

I have woke up feeling really sick......AGAIN !! angry sad

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Wed 28-Nov-12 08:29:55

<snuggles Bonkey

Happy Birthday Shakyboy!

Tee, if everything goes according to plan I'll be starting my ACCA accountancy course in January grin.

<puts out fry up>

So I can hire you empress do to my company books? grin

Empress Thats great , how long is the course?

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Wed 28-Nov-12 11:31:23

Yep grin

Three or four years for the whole thing, but qualified enough to be competent in about 6 months. I'm going to go full time for 3 months then switch to weekends and jobhunt.

How are you? (both of you)

How are all the poorly puddlers today?

Great news empress best of luck smile

I'm still in bed, I got up had breakfast sorted the dcs out for school and went back to bed, just woke up but really don't feel like moving, I'm exhausted.

Good luck with it all Empress! smile

Feeling a tad better. Really tired, even though I had a decent sleep!

<pulls in fluffy blankets>

I had just had the thought 'I haven't coughed today' guessed it, doubled over with it for 5 minutes. sigh

I have officially declared today Eat What I Want Wednesday. Who's with me?

Oh Tee grin

It's a replay of the FB thing, Bonkey. I am just waiting for someone to come and say I was bullied and flounced!!!


Ha! And I thought I had too much time on my hands, that's actually a bit sad.


It really is.

BONKEY my parcel just arrived. I LOVE you grin thank you, that aside the jewelry is just beautiful, pictures really do not do it justice, dp was very impressed too he did say, "you'll make her cry" last year I reduced my Mum to tears with her present, in a good way, I hope.

<Scuttles off to hide chocolate>

Chocolate? ::ears perk up::


Your very welcome State ! grin

Hope you mum likes everything! And say happy birthday to her from the 'net lady' <snorts> forgets that everytime i say that I have visions of myself in a bee keeper suit

Just had a nap, feeling slightly more human!

I'm going to have to get dp to hide them bonkey its not her birthday until 9th dec, I'm desperate to give them to her! And I've hinted heavily at him that I like them a lot, he's not on facebook atm but I've told him he should look your page up when we finally get back online next week.

I tried being all grown up and getting rid of sky/broadband etc to save money... I've lasted 4mnths... But I now have a much better deal from sky/talktalk instead of just sky.

Anyway I'm decorating the house, yes I'm one of those people, but its taken 2hrs to do my fireplace, and takes hours to unpack the tree so I may be finished by mid december if I start now...

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Wed 28-Nov-12 16:55:43

Well Ds has been the same again today, until an hour ago when he asked to have a bath, and to get dressed instead of putting his pi's back on. He's now eating a ham and cheese sandwich and some grapes. Hopefully he's on the mend!

I can't decide whether to give my BonkeyBracelet to my Mum or my SIL for christmas. I may have to order another if I can't decide!

Blimey Tee, what have you started?! grin

Glad your ds has perked up dreamy fingers crossed he's on the mend!

We are watching the original rudolph the red nosed reindeer for the 3rd time today, shouldn't have taught the dcs how to use the dvd player --we lost the remote and I'm lazy--

LittleTee may be getting picked on at school. He and another boy have been having issues with sharing and now he told me the other boy hurt him today. They're 3 FFS.

Glad he's on the mend dreamy.

And grin I'm a bad bad person, obviously!

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Wed 28-Nov-12 18:11:51

I'm coming to play too grin. We are Norty after all...

Glad DreamyBoy's getting better but I'm sorry about LittleTee.

At this point, that thread just has me going hmm and confused!

And the OP, who apparently couldn't sleep for fretting, has never come back.

hmm confused



EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Wed 28-Nov-12 18:32:31

So let's play with it grin

Drake dicks yes. Last year there was a shortlived but fun Derailers quiche including me, SayCool and a few others. When threads seemed to be getting out of control we'd go defuse them and somehow duck sex became one of our main ways of doing it.

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Wed 28-Nov-12 18:34:12

Hello all!

Hope all is well, you disappeared from my TIO list so I couldn't find you.

Have been a lurker for a bit, am now flexing my fingers and diving back in - although every time I look up and down Active Convos I end up hiding more and more threads.

So how are we all then?

I am good, 21 weeks and actually look pregnant - not just a bit fat grin Have also started an almost-waddle, the more I try not to the more I actually start to waddle blush . Lord only knows what I'll be like when I'm huge (I'm thinking forklift truck [wink )

Don't tell anybody but I've put my xmas lights up in my window - DD insisted that it was tacky to put decorations up before the 1st so in order to wind her up childish I adorned our window this afternoon and she was greeted by the twinkly sight as we got home. I got the classic "God you're so embarrassing" comment. I feel embarrassing her is part of the parenting deal - I embrace it fully grin

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Wed 28-Nov-12 18:39:11

Hello Brian; we missed you! I think we're permanently settled in this topic now.

Have you seen this?

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Wed 28-Nov-12 18:52:02

<arf> I read the original thread yesterday and it did make me chuckle.

I could have been offended (see t'other fred for why) but as I have a sense of humour and am the biggest judgey-pants in the world, it made me smile.

Am trying to think of things I judge others on....but if I actually admitted to any of it I would get the biggest flaming of my life, I am not well 'ard like Tee! grin

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Wed 28-Nov-12 18:53:05

As for you lot being in this topic permanently, that is all well and good BUT it would mean me navigating away from Active Convos and TIO. That, frankly, is too much like hard work and I can never remember where to find the topic


EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Wed 28-Nov-12 18:57:48

Facebook any of us and we can send you a link.

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Wed 28-Nov-12 19:00:10

You see, that is a very good idea (seriously, my brain is currently devoid of anything that requires me actually thinking)

I keep forgetting words and names of things - I know people laugh about baby-brain but I have it to the nth degree blush

I had it before i got pregnant, i just have an excuse now wink

Welcome back brian forklift you say, now why did I not think of that, I may have got stuck on the floor earlier, after several attempts to get up dd looked at me --like I was something to pity-- and said, "your stuck aren't you" <rolls eyes and sighs> "and I need a drink Mum" full of sympathy my dear daughter.

Hope littletee is ok and things are resolved soon, there's some mean little buggers out there.

empress you are incredibly norty!

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Wed 28-Nov-12 19:05:23


Argh! I'm getting confused coz your all galavanting off on t'other thread!

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Wed 28-Nov-12 19:39:57

who is Florentine on t'other thread?

Is familiar in posting style so I assume is a NC reg that I have missed due to beign away lots recently.

Brian this thread does show in TIO....::judging:: grin

Well, I've been judged right to my face today, by my child minder, for LittleTee being in pull ups. "I don't like those." Too fucking bad.

At least I judged that woman from a distance.

I'm judging you all for being judgy!

I really really really want to put the christmas decs NOW!!!

What is wrong with me?

Still haven't got the remote sad

Did you look under him?

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Wed 28-Nov-12 19:46:05

don't you judge my baby brain Tee <hoiks bosom> moving bump down slightly to do so

I am now judging you for allowing the pull-up judgement to irk you <confuses self>

It really has irked me. Like she doesn't know first hand how he's struggled. Like she doesn't know I will try anything at this point.

Fuck off CM. Truly.

DreamySleepyNightySnoozySnooze Wed 28-Nov-12 19:48:09

Well she pulled-up her judgey pants, Tee, so she can't hate pull-ups that much!

grin Dreamy

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Wed 28-Nov-12 19:48:43

But Tee she is clearly an utter fuckwit.

<strokes Tee's head soothingly>

Yes Tee first place grin

Last time he hid something I didn't find it for two days - it was in a puppet hmm

grin Dreamy!

Did you look in the puppet again?

She really is, Brian. In a lot of ways. And always so smug.

But she's cheap and she's nearby.

Of course, if I don't land this tender on Monday not only will I not have any money, I won't need her. But we'll probably keep her anyway. And my house will be spotless because I won't have anything else to do.

Anyway, did I tell you about my fab Black Friday Week Food Processor? It arrived today and I luffs it and I can't wait to process food in it!

Found it! In the washing machine hmm !
I will not be beaten!

Oh I also have some news - Ds got his role in the christmas nativity....hes...dumdumdum...the christmas mouse hmm

There's a Christmas mouse? Who knew?

We are not having a nativity. We are apparently having a musical called Hey Ewe!

Integrated schools. ::Shakes head::

I didn't even know the preschool was in it until I was invited to attend!

I didn't hmm

Hey Ewe?? Sheep?? confused


EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Wed 28-Nov-12 20:25:19

I remember the year DD's Nativity was all about the Dove from Above.

Ds was a shepard last year, and had lines, he was the most anxious child in reception so why they gave him lines I will never know, but bless him, he did it --with his teacher stood just off stage but holding his hand-- smile

Not heard anything yet this year which is odd as last year they did the performance first week of dec hmm

tee ignore the childminder, or get all passive aggresive and take a diff brand of pull ups and say, "well you said you didn't like the others" <needs to get out more>

empress my dp wouldn't have been able to keep a straight face! Dove from above, did they realise or were they oblivious?

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Wed 28-Nov-12 20:58:43

grin Dove from above was our name for it to be honest. The main character was a white bird who was following a star for some nonspecific reason and got joined by various characters on the way. I don't think Jesus ever got mentioned.

The main reason this stood out for us was that the school were more than happy to celebrate other faiths - I remember them all singing 'Eid is for Everyone' and acting out the story of Rama and Sita. And we were just fine with that but then it would only seem fair to do a straight nativity too!

Dove from above ?? What am I missing?

bonkey its a bit from shooting stars, I was oblivious until dp went on about it and eventually showed me on youtube.

Sounds a very strange "nativity" empress

Ds goes to a c of e school so we've been treated to snippets of religious christmas songs since let september, ds takes it all very seriously, dd otoh calmly said today, "Jack stop singing about that jesus will you" I asked her do you not like the song dd, basically she's had to practice it at school and has had enough and he does go on, and on, and on. Bless him.

I'm watching the santa clause 2 blush

ShakiestDude Wed 28-Nov-12 22:54:45

Evening puddle humpers.

Ds has had a lovely birthday and absolutely loves his new pool table and we had a party tea when he got home. He was a bit of a live wire a bedtime though, due to too much cake.

I went for his annual review meeting today at nursery and got there just as they were doing his birthday cake, I was a tad emotional. He is doing really well and has had a glowing report from nursery <proud>

On the other hand, I have had an awful day, I went for my occupational health appointment today. Please may I have a rant and vent my frustration and rage here, rather at my boss when she rings tomorrow?

Lets play pretend AIBU (without bunfights, bitching, PA etc)

AIBU to think my boss is a bitch?

Backstory - signed off sick in July with severe bout of depression. Started Prozac and had severe side effects for 4 weeks, then started to feel better. Went to occupational health for a plan for phased return to work. My doctor and occupational health agreed that it would be best for me to do an office based job for 2 weeks before returning to the clinical area and said that my boss would receive a copy of the plan. The next day I phoned my boss to tell her of the proposed plan. She refused to accept the office based work would be of any benefit to my recovery and insisted that I should return to work within the team. The rationale for doing office based work was to get back in the routine of setting the alarm, getting up, getting ds to nursery and being out of the house for 9 hours per day, getting home and keeping on top of the housework etc without needing to talk to any patients, do any clinical work etc.

I became upset during the conversation because she would not accept THE PLAN. I asked her to phone occ health to clarify the plan. She called me back a week later ( following much upset, uncertainty and anxiety not knowing what was going to happen). She told me she had spoken to occ health and the proposed plan was I returned straight back into the team working with someone, totally disregarding the first part of the plan. I agreed to HER plan, thinking it was endorsed by occ health.

I went back, was doing well. I was knackered from the physical effort of being out of the house and talking all day. I was doing clinical stuff, taking bloods, doing antenatal checks etc. I wore my mask of "I'm ok, you will never know I mental health issue". I was enjoying it and pleased with my progress.

On the last day of my second week I was exhausted and a bit tearful, my boss rang me and asked to see me before I went home.

I went and she told me that she actually thought that I wasn't well enough to be back at work and if I am that tired and it is so much effort then I came back too soon. Even though I told her why I. Wanted todo the first part o the plan, she still didn't agree with me. I was basically told to go home and go back to my GP an adjust my medication. (Cheeky bitch)

I did as I was told and went back to the doctor, who told me to double my Prozac. I did this and felt terrible for almost a month due to side effects. He signed me off for a month and I was referred back to occ health. I went back to the gp for another sick note as there was no point going back before seeing occ health.

My appointment was today. It turns out that my boss LIED to me about her conversation with occ health. Occ health said I should till do office work for 2 weeks but in which ever office was quieter. My boss told me that occ health had said that they disagreed with the original plan and I didn't need to do that. If I found the clinic office too noisy, chaotic etc that I should start work a 10 instead of 9 so the office is quieter. She made me go straight back to the clinical area and then told me to go back off sick.

Why send me to occ health to formulate a plan, then totally disregard it because she didn't agree with it? I felt like I was doing well then have been kicked in the tits, I feel like a failure.

I am LIVID, furious, upset and ENRAGED.

The occ health nurse has referred me to the occ health doctor to formulate my next plan for my return to work an has advised me not to even think of going back until after Christmas. My consultant appointment is on dec 18th.

I feel like I was set up to fail by my boss disregarding the PLAN and making up her own. How arrogant to think that she knows more about my health than my doctor, occ health and me. How DARE she undermine all those opinions because she thinks she knows better. I have to speak to her tomorrow but I am not sure how the fuck I can remain civil. I am SEETHING with fury, frustration an disappointment.

AIBU to feel like I have been bullied. I have been so upset and angry today, I look like shit from all the crying.

I am sorry for the massively long post but feel much better for the epic rant.

Thank you if you got this far xxx

ShakiestDude Wed 28-Nov-12 22:56:41

Sorry for all the typos, I am still feeling the RAGE

Oh shaky you poor love, she is indeed a total bitch! I don't know much about these kind of things but is there someone above her you can report her behaviour to? Its just totally unprofessional and totally unreasonable to lie to get her way then be a shitty cowbag and tell you to go sick again because she caused things to be more stressful for you.
I am enraged on your behalf!

On a brighter note, well done to your ds and I'm so glad he had a lovely day.

Good luck being civil to cowbag bitchface tomorrow <offers chocolate and nice blankets and (plays drumroll) the christmas cushions> grin

I'm with State .

Compleatly out of order! Slap the bitch! grin Not really!

snowtunesgirl Wed 28-Nov-12 23:19:35

Shaky, I will slap the bitch for you. angry

Oooh Showy is now Snowy ! smile

ShakiestDude Wed 28-Nov-12 23:31:29

Thank you everyone <snuggles into the Christmas cushions>

As much as I would like to slap the bitch, I do not relish the thought of receiving my P45 just before Xmas grin

How does this sound "thank you for calling boss. Occ health have referred me to their consultant, doctor, god, to assess my health and formulate my next phased return to work. My appointment is on 18th dec and I have been advised to withdraw from work until after Xmas. I with be in touch to following my consultant appointment you total bitch face, twatting, cunt, arsehole, wankbadger of a boss, many thanks, I will keep you informed twat""

Sorry, but the RAGE is still with me grin

This was me at my appointment today sad sad sad angry sad angry angry angry angry sad and lots of tears.

This was the occ health nurse hmm confused shock angry sad angry angry angry

ShakiestDude Wed 28-Nov-12 23:34:49

Ps I REFUSE to wear my Xmas name until December cos I haven't thought of one yet

ShakiestDude Wed 28-Nov-12 23:36:32

I need to calm the fuck down, I don't DO anger, it's not my style.

Anyone got a punchbag?

ShakiestDude Wed 28-Nov-12 23:38:21

Love your name change snow

Your allowed to have the rage, I'd be incandesent in your shoes.

I don't do christmas names anymore, I like being me, not that anyone knows me anyway but <shrugs> yknow. Depending on when dc3 arrives and if I have the time I may swap to StatehadababyYESlord, because ds has been singing that song and its stuck in my brain! Although dp thinks I should be StateofChristmasness.

snowtunesgirl Wed 28-Nov-12 23:45:10

Aha, so you all finally noticed. Subtle eh? wink

My mustard Buggering heating and hot water has gone angry

ShakiestDude Wed 28-Nov-12 23:48:59

Thank you State although I am quite fond of StateHasBabyJesusState

We need to remind HQ to give us a song AGAIN!

How can you say that no one knows you when you have 2 threads in classics! envy.

Your jizz stinking car thread was just awesome! Has OG had her baby yet?

<calms down quietly hugging Xmas cushion>


Fecking phone!! angry angry

ShakiestDude Wed 28-Nov-12 23:52:57

<ARF> at mustard! That made me giggle.

Thank you Bonkey I luffs you, mwah!

ShakiestDude Thu 29-Nov-12 00:02:57

Where is Tee ?
::is she ok?::
I hope she's not stranded on a batshit crazy thread somewhere again

ShakiestDude Thu 29-Nov-12 00:11:37

I refuse to move out of the puddle tonight, I would probably tell some poor, unsuspecting person to fuck the fuck off and get myself banned.

Apologies for my potty mouth, I don't usually swear, but did I mention, I have RAGE

I don't know shaky I've not seen them around for a while, but tbh I'm in my own little world and waddle from car to house ignoring the world, or attempting to keep the dcs from puddles/getting in each other seats etc, I will have a nose about the next few days and remind dp too.

At this rate if it is a boy it will be Jesus, we had settled on a name but no less than 3 umm undesirable people shouted it in public in a matter of days and put me right off it sad dp hates my other favourite, we have a few likes but not loves, might need to meet this baby before choosing, who knows.

Hope your feeling calmer now.

Not seen Tee about...

You won't get banned for fuck the fuck off, just a message reminding you to play nice grin but yes, stay in the puddle. <Offers chocolate>

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Thu 29-Nov-12 00:19:00

<snuggles Shaky>
Swear as much as you like on that one, love, you're fully justified!

Quickest way to remind HQ about the song would be to report Shaky's post. I did it last time, do you want to do it this time, Mary State?

Thanks for worrying but after about 10, you can assume I am in bed! All you night owls!

Shaky I think you have a case for bullying. I'd take it to her boss/HR/Union. What a horrible thing to do. Enjoy the rest of your time off.

Very sneaky snowy! grin

Well guess what!

The night my heating goes off = The first big frost in our area!


ShakiestDude Thu 29-Nov-12 10:00:41

Good morning everyone,

Thank you all for putting up with my ranting last night. I feel much calmer this morning. I will take some deeps breathes, have another cup of tea and have a quiet day. I may even ignore the phone so I don't have to speak to bitch boss.

Well apparently I'm having a baby on the 19th December, HQ the clock is ticking... grin

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Thu 29-Nov-12 12:27:01

Shaky - you seriously, seriously, need to speak to your Union rep. What your boss has done is beyond comprehension.

Do not speak to her. She has set your condition back by her actions.

A simple email explaining that you are not fit enough to talk to her at present will suffice. State clearly that you will not be answering calls until you are in a better frame of mind.

Then, a short but to the point email/letter to her manager explaining what has happened and the impact of her lies on you RECOGNISED medical condition.

Then, speak to your Union rep and ask them to take the case over as you are not up to it.

You have been bullied, you are very vulnerable and you should never have been put in this position. There are laws in place to protect you under such circumstances. Your boss should not really be contacting you and putting pressure on you.

You have my complete sympathy, I have been in your position but ultimately my company were very supportive and followed procedure to the letter. I never once felt harrassed, bullied or under pressure to speak to them.

Please do not think she is allowed to do this to you. She needs to be reprimanded and appropriately trained as to how to deal with staff who are off sick and dealing with a challenging illness.



snowtunesgirl Thu 29-Nov-12 12:38:53

Absolutely what Brian said.

Exactly what Brian said.

ShakiestDude Thu 29-Nov-12 13:31:16

Fantastic news State not long to go xxx

Thank you Brian. I think I will get in touch with my union and have a chat with them. I hate confrontation, I am such a wuss. Maybe that's why she can walk all over me. You are right, her lies and refusal to implement the plan has had a direct impact on my health, cost the NHS money by having me off sick, my caseload, who aren't seeing their proper midwife and the whole team who are having to cover my work. Maybe I should award her a medal for engineering such a spectacular fuck up.

I am a lot calmer today but feel really flat. I have got loads to do, the house is a tip but I just can't bring myself to do it today. I just want to curl in a ball and hide. How DARE she make me feel like this.

<breathes deeply before the rage creeps back in>

I couldn't agree more, I know you feel vulnerable atm shaky but she can't get away with this, awful women.

Hope your feeling better today xx

Can't believe I'm finally here, almost at the end of this pregnancy, 8th dec last year we lost a baby at 13wks and I felt so low, so it makes this all extra special. This one seems determined to give me nothing to worry about, big two were petite babys and measured small, this ones 2wks ahead roughly!

ShakiestDude Thu 29-Nov-12 16:51:46

Im so excited for you State

I finally got my act together and have washed up, brushed and mopped the floors, cleaned the kitchen, put some washing in, had a shower and did my hair. THEN I made a fimo Barney for ds birthday cake for his party on Sunday, he is cooking in the oven as we speak. His head is a bit wonky and flat at the back but I'm sure ds won't mind. His pic is on fb.

I feel much better for getting moving and actually achieving something grin

Stop the presses. LittleTee is not in Hey Ewe. He is in the preschool play, cleverly entitled A Christmas Story.

Who he is playing I do not know. Apparently more details are to follow.

I saw those Shaky! Very cute little Barney. grin

Whoot State!

I love your barney shaky my dd loves him and keeps asking for a singing one, but after dp was tricked into seeing the purple dinosaur live it may tip him over the edge.

OOooh State exciting! Not long to wait until we find out that I am right wink

Shaky your barney is ace! Is it fimo? I need to find a mario or something for ds's cake! Glad your feeling better! x

I'm trying to suss out how too make a new type of bracelet. I think i may have cracked it but still confused

Tee A christmas story? Original! grin I bet he's a mouse! Theres always a mouse! hmm

Oh and my heating is back! Yay!

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Thu 29-Nov-12 17:33:21

Yay everybody!

Shaky, what Brian said. Definitely. And the Barney's great.

Has anyone reported the song post to HQ yet?

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Thu 29-Nov-12 17:34:44

state hugs - what a difference a year makes eh?

which brings me back round to Shaky I never thougth I would be feeling normal again (nor feeling a jiggly baby...but I digress) after what i have been through this past 2 years, but you will get there I promise.

I know you don't like confrontation but in this case, you will keep getting set backs if you allow her to be such a fuck-wit to you.

I also know that you must be trying to back away from what you have to do to fix this (I remember the feeling well sad). Ultimately, you can't right now as you aren't up to it. So the most simple thing to do is draft a letter to her manager, explaining that she is causing you a lot of anxiety/stress and you need her to back off. Then sit back safe in the knowledge that the brown stuff will hit the fan big time and she will be in trouble.

If you want help - I am more than happy to write it for you (as long as I know the key things that need to go in it) and then you can copy and paste. PM me, I am not just trying to be nice, I can not stress enough that I know how you feel - and as I say, I never had the added pressure of a fuck-wit boss!

Once that is done, you can sit back and try and enjoy the weekend and feel good that you have faced the issue.

Next week you can start to think about what needs to be said to the union rep, and again - I am more than happy to help. My mum is a District Nurse and was a rep for one of the unions for years, she only gave it up recently. I can put the feelers out if you like as to what help you can get.


LittleTee finally admitted that using the toilet scares him. Perhaps a break through?

He uses a potty at home but I wonder if pooing in even that scares him.

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Thu 29-Nov-12 18:49:34

Cheers for Brian and for LittleTee.

Tee - I have very faint memories of using the toilet when I was a toddler and ending up in it. I think I must have tried to do it without either the seat or the safety seat.

Could it be something like that, he's worried about falling in?

BrianCoxIsAChristmasPud Thu 29-Nov-12 18:52:01

Tee I told you about my DD being 4.5 before she would poo anywhere other than her nappy. I believe it was a fear born of being told off by her CM for doing a poo in her nappy when I was just introducing the potty 2 years earlier. So I really do sympathise with you.

This is what I did (oh god the memories!)

DD helped me do a poo chart, this entertained her endlessly as we had crayoned poo's on the chart and it was stuck next to the toilet. I didnt push the chart, I just said that when she did a poo she could have a sticker and if she got 2 stickers she could have a treat.

Then, she would need a poo so I would encourage her to sit on the toilet. I told her that I would read her a story, so I would sit on the floor and read a story. This was beyond tedious and laborious but it got her relaxed and sat on the loo!

Then I had the ingenious idea of a puppet show with her favourite soft toys.

you now think I am insane...

I would hide one side of the door and the toys would tell her a story. Sometimes this went on for 15+ minutes!

Basically it changed the toilet environment from being scary to being a place she could relax.

It took a while, probably 2 months from start to finish (but she had major issues to start with and I was not going to pressure her) and my god I hated those bloody story/puppet sessions, but ultimately it worked.

Can you think of ways to make it fun so he can relax? Would he respond to drawing a big poo on an A3 sheet of neon pink paper? hmm Does he like pot-cat ornaments from the pound shop? (DD's first reward, her request) hmm

I agree with what was said the other day on your thread - back off at the moment for both your sakes, remove the issue altogether and then start afresh.

if after reading my confession anybody wants to take the piss, please do, but be gentle with me grin

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Thu 29-Nov-12 18:59:39

Brian, I think that's lovely!

I remember reading somewhere about an idiotic DH who, just after his toddler DD had become confident using the toilet by herself, bought a poster of a monster jumping out of the toilet bowl and stuck it up on the back of the door.

You can imagine the consequences......