Welcome to the Business Start-ups Topic!

(91 Posts)
HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 12-Nov-12 14:42:28

Hello.

We have created this new discussion topic for those of you who have just started, or are thinking of starting, a new business.

The board itself is supported by Barclays but is very much inspired by Talk threads on all aspects of business that made us realise that many of you would welcome a dedicated space where you can discuss business and share your views. We'll be moving some of those threads to this topic over the next few days.

So, welcome! We hope you'll use this topic to swap all manner of advice, info and tips.

Tee2072 Mon 12-Nov-12 15:44:33

Define 'just started'. I've been in business for just over 2 years.

Can I play?

grin

::Tee being difficult::

HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 12-Nov-12 15:46:18

Course you can. You can advise from position of Great Knowledge...

Tee2072 Mon 12-Nov-12 15:46:47

Oooh, like an Oracle...or about Oracle...

grin

Kveta Mon 12-Nov-12 17:16:06

ooh, great, I'm pondering starting up a business, have some Ideas, but advice from oracles would be marvelous!

SpiralDancer Mon 12-Nov-12 17:39:20

Oooo excellent, I will be keeping eyes open here as have just gone free lance as an artist (painter) also hoping to get back into practising as a therapist.
So will be most interested in advertising and networking etc.

Great idea. I am going to be starting my own business as a coach and hypnotherapist next Spring once I have completed my qualifications. Heard the sobering statistic that 80% of new businesses fail within the first year. So I think we need all the help we can get!

I'm in too, just started up as a storyteller. Need advice on getting people to move from "ooh, that's a great idea" to actually parting with some cashgrin.
Networking is going well, a steep learning curve but I'm figuring out new things every day.

Frosch Mon 12-Nov-12 19:38:07

Just started up! Am finding that I'm having to curb my ball-busting tendencies; a ferocious work ethic needed one industry doesn't always go down when dealing with an industry of a more gentle, slow-moving nature and I need to dial it down accordingly. My tax accountant makes Eeyore look like Ru-Paul, which means I'm always given the absolute, end-of-the-world scenario every month. This works well for me, as that pushes me on to try harder. It might not work well for others, who might prefer a more positive cheerleader/mentor to push them through the dark days. Can't do sums, dealing with that issue ostrich-like grin.

gussiegrips Mon 12-Nov-12 19:51:58

Me too. Am setting up a sensible, bread and butter business - but am all excited about a tangent, flight of fancy business whic is infinitely more fun.

Where do you all find the time and energy? I find I swing between "doomed, we're all doomed" to practising my "Hello, Graham Norton, it's lovely to meet you"

lunchbox Mon 12-Nov-12 20:09:22

I've just started a business, been open 2 weeks, it's a coffee/sandwich bar, and so far seems to be doing ok. Bloody terrifying though, not knowing when I'll be able to pay myself, and Christmas will have to be done on the cheap this year.

But I really enjoy it, I love cashing up the till on the days when I've made a profit grin

k2togm1 Mon 12-Nov-12 20:17:35

Can I join? lunhbox do you need some great brownies supplied to you?
I'm going to do my first fayre this weekend!
Terrified!

lunchbox Mon 12-Nov-12 21:13:12

Funny you should mention that, I do actually need brownies!! What part of the country are you in?

mcmooncup Mon 12-Nov-12 21:17:57

Just marking my place too.
I'm just coming up for 2 years too.....still feel like a new business though......so much to do, so little time.
Long hours, little money (for now) but wouldn't change it for the world. I'm officially unemployable now sad could never work for someone else again!

k2togm1 Mon 12-Nov-12 21:25:37

lunchbox I'm in Bristol [clutching straws...]

lunchbox Mon 12-Nov-12 21:29:19

Seriously kc2m?

I'm not far from Bristol. Do you do other cakes or just brownies? My cake lady quit today, she did cookies and cakes, so need someone else to supply them.

gemblags1980 Mon 12-Nov-12 21:30:36

Hi I have found this thread by accident , but just wondered if anyone has had experience of advertising on mums net and what the return as been. Just a ballpark figure, I'm a new business so need to make the pennies work for me!
Thanks in advance,
Gemma

lunchbox Mon 12-Nov-12 21:31:19

Sorry k2togm1 not k2cm or whatever i just called you (on iPhone so can't scroll up to check)

lunchbox Mon 12-Nov-12 21:32:13

Good question gemblags, I thought of it but not convinced there are that many mners in my area

DowagersHump Mon 12-Nov-12 21:42:57

I would love it if in the first 20 posts, there was a brownie maker who made a sale to a sandwich shop which needed brownies smile

(disclaimer - I do very dull business to business work but I've been going for two years - started as a sole trader but now am a ltd company registered for VAT so I'm doing something vaguely right)

Was a bit of a struggle at first but I absolutely love working for myself in my pants mainly from home

k2togm1 Mon 12-Nov-12 21:56:29

What are the chances! smile although I am only doing brownies... pm me if you want.

ChippingInLovesAutumn Mon 12-Nov-12 21:58:00

Well done MNHQ A BRILLIANT new topic smile All of us in one place, not boring the pants off everyone else and not missing the threads when they drop out of Active too quickly smile Thank you!! thankswinebrewbiscuit

gussiegrips Mon 12-Nov-12 22:07:49

So, how do the advertising rules work on here?

Can I tell you about my business and put up links to the website for help and feedback, but without falling foul of shameless self promotion rules?

k2togm1 Mon 12-Nov-12 22:11:32

Oops sorry if I broke the shameless self promotion ruleblush

gussiegrips Mon 12-Nov-12 22:12:24

No, no, no, I wasn't dobbing you in! I was hoping to jump right onto your wagon...

ChippingInLovesAutumn Mon 12-Nov-12 22:37:02

I don't know, but I think that if MN are going to have this as a topic they would know that it's inevitable that a large part of that is going to be wanting advice re websites/ads/feedback, so it would be a bit silly to say that there can't be any links etc. Maybe that's why Barclays are sponsoring the form, so they can easily get links to new start ups and other information.

No links would make the forum a bit of a waste of time really.

TeamEdward Mon 12-Nov-12 22:37:43

Hi! I've just started a home baking business. I've got a dozen Christmas cake orders (for friends, so not great for growing the business, but at least they are paying!) and a couple of birthday cakes to do.
I have no idea what I'm doing with regards to banking and accounts though! Think I should probably get myself a good accountant, but don't know what I'm looking for or how much I should be paying.

mumblechum1 Mon 12-Nov-12 22:46:05

This is an excellent idea, it's a good way of networking.

Mine's a bread and butter business, will writing, and I've been doing it for 2.5 years now so if anyone is literally new to running their own business I'm happy to share my experience of what to do and not to do.

Top of my list would be that you don't have to spend a ridiculous amount of money on a website, get a good basic one to start with then improve it as and when.

Also, change your mobile and home phone messages so that it sounds like a business. I called someone the other day (business person) and her message was her toddler very slowly singing the Alphabet song. V sweet I'm sure but wholly unprofessional!

Also, keep all of your receipts for stuff like postage and parking; all those few poiunds here and there are deductible from tax if they're business related.

Tigresswoods Mon 12-Nov-12 22:47:29

Ooh ooh I want to play, I want to play! I write wills and advise on boring (but necessary) life cover to parents of young children.

I'd like to help new parents feel at ease with putting plans in place for the future rather than terrified they might tempt fate.

Keen to network with others & help where I can. grin

mumblechum1 Mon 12-Nov-12 22:47:34

Banking is a bit of a minefield, I started with a business account with Lloyds TSB which was free at first but after a year they started charging me for breathing (I'm never overdrawn/in need of a loan so this seemed unfair). I closed the account and now just use a personal account which doesn't charge.

gussiegrips Mon 12-Nov-12 22:54:30

I've "reported" the thread in the hope of some clarification about what we can and can't put on here...

...I think I may have been mentally scarred by my accidental advertising. I don't give a jot about getting into trouble in actual life, but on here,turns out I'm a wee goodie two shoes.

sausagerolemodel Mon 12-Nov-12 23:02:37

I've been trading as a ltd company for a year and a half and have grown from me and my mate on our dining room table, graduated to doing 2 full time jobs for almost a year (nightmare) to an office, a core staff of 3 and a roster of freelancers. We make films/videos for websites and broadcast and other communications projects and training (most projects are science based as that is our speciality) but we can do anything.

My advice would be to network and meet as many people as you can at events where your peers and/or clients hangout. We get far more jobs through people who know people who know people than we do from any direct marketing and we don't have any paid for marketing or advertising at all. (but we are a service, not a product based industry)

lunchbox Mon 12-Nov-12 23:17:02

My experience of trading for a whole 17 days grin is that start up costs will go waaaay over what you budgeted - 20% over in my case. Partly through underestimating the price of things, and partly through suddenly deciding you need more stuff! So do your research properly. I estimated new flooring (which was essential as my premises are a new build without any flooring) at £300, it actually cost about £2000. Luckily some things came in under budget do I was able to make up the short fall elsewhere.

Also, imagine yourself working there, what will you actually NEED? Don't get anything that isn't actually vital to running your business, the extra bits you can get later.

Also be wary of buying things second hand. I needed a lot of expensive refrigeration equipment, found some on eBay for a third of the cost new, but it's cost me the same amount again to have it repaired into a working condition.

skyebluesapphire Mon 12-Nov-12 23:56:34

HSBC do a great free business account if everything you do is mainly online. You can pay in cheques but there is a monthly limit. It hasn't cost me a penny so far.

I do bookkeeping, vat and payroll and have helped many businesses start up so feel free to ask any questions. 20 years experience, went self employed last year.

Records kept by spreadsheet can be very effective and keep your accountancy bill down if done properly.

fargone Tue 13-Nov-12 06:41:08

I also ran aground of the advertising rules accidentally - would love to see other people's links and have in fact just messaged one of the members here based on the business they are doing!

Stitchthis Tue 13-Nov-12 07:12:05

Marking my place

PurpleGeekyGirl Tue 13-Nov-12 07:12:12

Ooh fab thanks for this smile I am off to a Barclays business seminar on Thursday in bradford. Is anyone else going to that one or has attended one in the past?

Also if anyone has any advice about the transition from sole trader to ltd company I'm all ears!! Hoping to open premesis in 2014 (as a tea shop/cafe/city centre chill out zone) in Lancaster/Lakes area grin

threadweaver Tue 13-Nov-12 07:15:40

Great thread. I'm in the process of setting up a social enterprise which is essentially a business set up for a social purpose. On phone and off to day job in bit but will come back and post more info/useful links later on if anyone's interested in social enterprise.

Skyblue - I may well have some questions for you!

Btw just nc as felt time for change but long time lurker/poster

Great idea for a topic !

Tee2072 Tue 13-Nov-12 07:53:14

I keep all accounts by spreadsheet and don't have a business account.

I am finding being a member of the Federation of Small Businesses is getting me lots of networking opportunities, although joining is a bit pricey.

I do have an account look over my books at the end of the year, but we do trade as I work on his website for him!

This is a whole topic, so we can add other threads.

Although I am not sure what the difference is between this and the freelance board, TBH.

notnagging Tue 13-Nov-12 08:13:46

Brilliant idea but I think mumsnet will need some subtopics very quickly!
I actually need some advice on getting a prototype made for a kitchen utensil if anyone can help.

casbie Tue 13-Nov-12 09:33:19

Same here, even though I have been going for a year, made a profit in my first year, I still swing between cursing and singing! : )

NotaDisneyMum Tue 13-Nov-12 09:49:19

Great idea MNHQ!

I'm still in my infancy in terms of self employment - started 18 months ago as a dinner party caterer, had nothing
for 6 months (gulp) , then a few bookings but still quiet then changed direction and have been busy for the last 6 months or so doing cooking demos for a range of audiences - young mums, sheltered housing etc.
Another change planned soon though as I'm taking over a tea-rooms which I'm currently providing cakes and doing relief cover for - very exciting but a lot more of a tie than what I've been used to up until now!

HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 13-Nov-12 10:16:00

gussiegrips

So, how do the advertising rules work on here?

Can I tell you about my business and put up links to the website for help and feedback, but without falling foul of shameless self promotion rules?

OK, this is how we reckon it should work.

As you know, we do charge businesses to advertise on MN (either on leaderboards/MPUs around the site or in our Classified sections on the main Talk board or in MN Local). This enables us to pay our staff, keep the servers running and ensure MN is free to use for all members.

So, obviously, it wouldn't be fair to those who pay to advertise to allow you (or anyone else) to promote your business all over the shop. And, if you did, we'd likely delete your posts.

However, we have no problem with a regular MNer who is using this Talk topic to discuss her/his business ideas/plans posting one link to her/his website, if it is clearly relevant to the discussion (eg: it's a thread about how to improve your business presence online or summat).

So, key things to remember...

1. No self-promotional links all over Talk

2. Links are OK in discussions in this Topic ONLY, as long as they're posted sparingly and as a relevant part of the discussion (and not just random self-promotion).

Hope that makes sense. Do please let us know if you have any other Qs.

EwanHoozami Tue 13-Nov-12 11:24:09

Marking my place. I need a crash course in bookkeeping and small business finance so shall check this topic eagerly.

EwanHoozami Tue 13-Nov-12 11:25:06

PS I enjoyed Tee's Oracle pun grin

Tee2072 Tue 13-Nov-12 11:27:20

Thank you Ewan. grin

TerrorNotSoFrightened Tue 13-Nov-12 12:10:28

Marking my place also.
I have two business ideas but need to get my driving licence first.
So, obtain provisional in December, sit theory test in January, intensive week long driving course in February.

Meanwhile buy all the equipment I need to start up business #1...an entertainment business doing karaoke/disco with a sideline in children's parties.
I hope to get a residential spot on a Friday night at a local pub so that I have weekly money coming in.

The money made from this will fund further training for business #2, I'm already a qualified makeup artist and am currently training to do semi permanent eyelash extensions. I want to do further courses in nails, spray tanning etc.
I then plan to rent a room in a local hotel and work from there.

I'll be keeping an eye on this thread for advice on accounting and marketing as I know very little about these departments, actually I know nothing about them.

So, if anyone has any advice for me, it would be greatly appreciated.

HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 13-Nov-12 12:13:09

TerrorNotSoFrightened

Marking my place also.
I have two business ideas but need to get my driving licence first.
So, obtain provisional in December, sit theory test in January, intensive week long driving course in February.

Meanwhile buy all the equipment I need to start up business #1...an entertainment business doing karaoke/disco with a sideline in children's parties.
I hope to get a residential spot on a Friday night at a local pub so that I have weekly money coming in.

The money made from this will fund further training for business #2, I'm already a qualified makeup artist and am currently training to do semi permanent eyelash extensions. I want to do further courses in nails, spray tanning etc.
I then plan to rent a room in a local hotel and work from there.

I'll be keeping an eye on this thread for advice on accounting and marketing as I know very little about these departments, actually I know nothing about them.

So, if anyone has any advice for me, it would be greatly appreciated.

Do please start your own thread, TerrorNotSoFrightened. We're sure lots of people would love to know more about accounting and marketing - and we're equally sure there are some MNers around these parts who've got some great advice to share.

LadyMaryChristmas Tue 13-Nov-12 12:43:47

Back to the adverts (sorry), companies are using your business start up section (and other sections) as an excuse to advertise for free. Web sites/stalls at craft fairs etc are all helpful to a small business but small businesses have to pay for these. I've spent less than an hour on here today and have reported 3 or 4 already. I've looked at what you do allow (up there), but it doesn't say anything about companies like these.

Sorry, this probably isn't very clear. My head hurts.

HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 13-Nov-12 13:03:42

LadyMaryChristmas

Back to the adverts (sorry), companies are using your business start up section (and other sections) as an excuse to advertise for free. Web sites/stalls at craft fairs etc are all helpful to a small business but small businesses have to pay for these. I've spent less than an hour on here today and have reported 3 or 4 already. I've looked at what you do allow (up there), but it doesn't say anything about companies like these.

Sorry, this probably isn't very clear. My head hurts.

No that's quite clear - and we have noticed. Thanks v much - we're on the case.

LadyMaryChristmas Tue 13-Nov-12 13:12:22

Thank you. I'm off to get some paracetamol. Did you get my email (sent on the 2nd)?

Hi, can I join in, I am thinking of starting up a business. I currently sell second hand clothing on ebay but want to go into a different field and make a bit more of a business out of it. Have no idea where to start though and don't want to spend too much right off incase it all goes t*ts up!!! Please some of you oracles tell me this is how you started?!

k2togm1 Tue 13-Nov-12 17:05:25

teamedward can we share 'to do' lists?
I am not sure about how to get public liability insurance, have you got any experience of this?
Have you registered yet? And did you have the home inspection?

Jins Tue 13-Nov-12 18:09:52

I'm 18 months into my business. Just completed first year's tax return.

Good luck to all new starters

gussiegrips Tue 13-Nov-12 18:51:09

I've got a question...

at which point do you decide it's worth risking investing money into your business?

So, I'm a physio going back to work - self employed as childcare is an ishoo.

Thanks to a mumsnet thread and serendipity, I'm veering away from visiting elderly folks at home (though, I do like my clinical stuff, and it's paying enough to keep me in pinot grigio, so I'm not about to jack it just now) and am in the process of setting up physio parties for pelvic floors.

I do a bit of stand up comedy, so have combined the two to try and reduce the scourge of incontinence that affects 1:3 women age 35-55, and destroys lives. No joke there, worse luck.

www.gussetgrippers.weebly.com

So, I borrowed a little bit of money to buy the equipment I need for physio. That's a sensible investment for equipment I need.

I'm now looking at costings for printers, graphic designers, websites, and putting on a Fringe Show at the Edinburgh Festival in August.

If I could make a living from talking about fanjoes and raising awareness and getting pelvic floor stuff taught properly and effectively - well, I'd be very happy.

So, do you have a formula for taking the leap and putting cash you don't have into a project? Cos, whilst I think it's a great idea and my friends think it's a great idea, and I have a bunch of bookings up until Christmas...beyond that - how would I know if it would work?

Anyone have either a crystal ball or a bravery pill?

Gussiegrips have you got a business plan?
Perhaps getting an investor on board would help your confidence and spread the risk.
Otherwise, weigh up the risk against how much you'd kick yourself if someone else made a success of it instead. Fortune favours the brave.

gussiegrips I've PMed you

gussiegrips Tue 13-Nov-12 19:53:17

Oh, yes, I've got a business plan...but, it seemsmore like a work of fiction than a businessdocument.

I don't really understand the concept of a business plan - it's essentially a wish list of "if that happens, and I get that stroke of luck, and this falls into place...then, this time next year, Rodney..."

I could just as easily write a business plan of doom - "did this research, found this niche, spent this much time and money and effort, didn't realise x, forgot about y, lacked the skills for z...now confirmed as a flibbertgibbet eejit"

So, is a business plan actually worth anything - or are they just ambition, masquerading as a crystal ball?

I understand about getting an investor (have watched a lot of Dragons' Den), but you need to have a track record to "sell" to them. And, without taking the plunge and the risk, I have no track record.

My whole life, I've taken the well trodden path. This time, I rather fancy the less travelled route through the woods. Here's hoping that fortune also favours the self-indulgent...!

A business plan, if realistically done, helps you keep track of how you're doing based on concrete goals and timescales.
I'm learning new things about business every day, making mistakes, but learning from them. You at least have some paying clients to build from, which is a large hurdle you're over already.
My business is low financial risk (storytelling), but hard to make a name in. I have budgeted without my income, so as long as the business doesn't become a money pit, we'll be fine.
I got my first proper enquiry todaygrin, someone heard about me on FB and wants me for a toddler group Christmas party. That alone would put the business back in the black, if I can land it.

gussiegrips Tue 13-Nov-12 20:42:45

Well, that's how my business plan looks - it's a year of "if I do this by that, then I can do that by then, and then I should be able to pull that off, and then I'll take the kids to Legoland next summer"

Our business' sound similar - mine is also low financial risk, but it won't work without publicity.

That's exciting about your enquiry! What are your FB links, thingies and whatnots?

I have a FB page, a website, a Wordpress blog and a LinkedIn account, all link to my contact details, all are regularly updated. I use my business name a lot in conversation. I google various permutations of my business and location to see how my searchability is going, and tweak my websites to improve it.
I'm the "Short Story Lady" if you're interested (trying to keep within the rules!)

TeamEdward Tue 13-Nov-12 21:38:59

The problem I have with the business plan is that I'm not a very "concrete goals and timescales" kind of person. I play everything by ear...

k2togm1 - My to do list is extensive!
Re public liability insurance, I went to a local business fair and met quite a few brokers. The NFU offered home insurance with an extra bolt-on small home business premium. About £60 extra I think...

I have registered with Environmental Health, and had my kitchen inspection - EHO was really helpful, lots of good advice, and I got a Level 5 so I was very chuffed!

PurpleGeekyGirl, what sort of questions do you have about going from sole trader to Ltd company? I've made the transition- not sure I can be of any help, but could try smile do you want to start a thread about it?

My to-do list tip is a small whiteboard. Every day I write a list of small tasks (usually 10 minute to 2 hour jobs)
They might be business related or house related, e.g. Post a story on the website, chase enquiries, run dishwasher, fill in school permission forms.
They are in no particular order, and I tick them off as I go.
It works for me as it takes away the "blank" time where I know I was going to do something but can't think what it was.
It also gives me visual evidence that I'm achieving things each day.
PL insurance was surprisingly easy to set up, I googled for quotes and brokers were calling me within the hour. Mine is about £70 p/a.

I am surprised how many of my FB page's likers have no links to their businesses on their personal pages. If you don't promote your business shamelessly, why would anyone else?
I plug something business related on my timeline about once a week to catch any new friends who haven't heard yet.

ChippingInLovesAutumn Wed 14-Nov-12 08:11:00

Helen That sounds like a great plan thanks

BabylonPI Wed 14-Nov-12 11:46:18

I too am in the process of setting up my own business.

It's a bit scary as DH went self employed just a year ago, and I am on ML - but this is one of the reasons for setting up on my own.

I actually can't afford to go back to work as anything I earn would be paid straight out in childcare. So therefore I'm setting up something I can do from home, which will hopefully be conducive to family life and profitable at the same time.

My BIL gave me the gem of an idea as a friend of his has done exactly the same and is apparently raking in cash hand over fist!! I've got no expectations, but it is some thing I would be good at as my organisational skills are pretty good.

I'm setting up a letting agency. I already have my first two clients, I just need to get on the course to get my papers/license ASAP.
DH is in property maintenance so the two will hopefully go nicely hand in hand and work for each other IYSWIM.

it is scary though, I have literally nothing to invest so everything will be done word of mouth/on a shoe string to start with - I'm very fortunate that I have a beautiful office premise available at my disposal at my parents house, and this is where my suits ones will be licensed too as they already have a licence to trade for their property.

Wish me ouch, I'll let you know how it goes!!!

BabylonPI Wed 14-Nov-12 11:46:46

Wish me luck obviously, not ouch blush

pombal Wed 14-Nov-12 11:47:46

Hello, I'm in business in the Eurozone, but have had a Uk business in the past as well. I found that keeping accounts on spreadsheets got very time consuming and messy. Am I allowed to mention the name of the product I used to keep it all under control????

RumBaaBaa Wed 14-Nov-12 12:54:10

MNHQ could you explain a little more about what 'supported by Barclays' actually means?

What is their involvement with the forum? Can they claim ownership of any of the content here for their own usage?

HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Wed 14-Nov-12 14:19:10

RumBaaBaa

MNHQ could you explain a little more about what 'supported by Barclays' actually means?

What is their involvement with the forum? Can they claim ownership of any of the content here for their own usage?

Yes, of course, RumBaaBaa.

This board is supported by Barclays but it works in the same way as any other MN Talk topic, in that you folks start the threads and you folks make the posts.

As part of their partnership with us, Barclays do have, on the top of each thread, a promotional link to their (rather excellently useful) Mumsnet 'hub', which is full of great content about starting and expanding your own business.

Barclays will also be peeking at the discussions started in this topic from time to time, to see what sort of things you're discussing and what issues interest you most. This will help them make the new info they add to their hub more accurately reflect the kind of business advice you're looking for. They may also occasionally use the odd (non-identifiable) quote from a thread in their hub content, to give it a nice Mumsnetty dash of flavour.

It's also worth saying that Barclays are always keen to hear from you what kind of info you'd like to see featured on their hub. Do please use this thread to post your suggestions and ideas.

INESSENCEcoachALEX Wed 14-Nov-12 14:28:00

I'm SO EXCITED about this discussion topic. I'm really excited about learning from everyone's experiences and sharing my own, too. (I have been running a coaching business for almost two years now).

I'm especially interested in Mums' experiences successfully growing and managing businesses they are passionate about WHILE ALSO building mindful connections with their kids. Anyone want to talk about this? Challenges? Tips?

Can I just say "short story lady" I have liked you and shared you as I have some family in your neck of the woods smile I'll make sure I keep putting you up on my page too and hopefully you'll get some work this way. How far do you travel, I live about an hour and half away but I know when I was looking for dd's party in May there arent any story tellers around here.....or if there are they are keeping themselves well hidden!!

dizzydixies Wed 14-Nov-12 15:40:16

Can I join in too please?? Been in business for 2yrs but very much on a part time/no clue basis!!!

dizzydixies Wed 14-Nov-12 15:44:01

Although I DO have the twitter/FB page, a blog set up and the domain name that links back to the blog until I get the webpage set up. One Tax return in, another one almost finished and fingers crossed heading to an expansion this year.

I've found the banks to be less than helpful sad so getting all the books done by an accountant should hopefully seal a business plan and maybe some investment.

It's all rather terrifying isn't it.

Ooh, thank yougrin I wondered who my new "like" was.
I don't drive, but as long as you're vaguely near public transport I'm sure we can work something out.
I do framed personalised stories too, which I can post out, if people far away want the "Short Story Lady" experience.
<shameless plug>
Seriously, I love getting input on my stories and website from fresh eyes, as my friends are too nice to say if any of it is pants. I got some great website advice yesterday from a MNer on a FB entrepreneur group.
I got my first proper enquiry yesterday, from a group in Warrington, to do a Christmas party. I worded the reply in such a way that the assumption is that I'll be doing the gig unless they formally refuse. I wasn't that blatant about it, hope my cheek pays off and they don't just think I'm rude!

This is what I love about MN, meeting people who you wouldnt normally come across in RL who are willing to help each other out. Its great!

BigGiggles Wed 14-Nov-12 17:13:25

Message deleted by Mumsnet for breaking our Talk Guidelines. Replies may also be deleted.

BigGiggles Wed 14-Nov-12 17:34:04

Hi
I've been working from home now for 2 years and it's hard! I keep thinking about washing up and tidying the house. i just can't seem to switch off. I'm sure that having an office is more constructive but it costs money!! sad

HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Wed 14-Nov-12 17:49:31

We're so pleased that folks are so enthusiastic about this topic - hurrah!

But please do remember that it's whole topic, not just one discussion thread.

Do feel free to venture out and start your own thread within this Business Start-ups topic: the more the merrier!

PurpleGeekyGirl Wed 14-Nov-12 20:25:44

bettythebuilder I shall do that! I think I just need more info about what the differences are, it's all so complicated when you're first starting out and whilst I get being a sole trader the idea of the Ltd side and being an employee/director with all the stuff that needs sorting is scary!!

PurpleGeekyGirl Wed 14-Nov-12 20:27:19

teamedward Hi I'm another baker! What did you have to do re EHO registration? What did they look for when they visited? I haven't got to that stage yet and am scared by it, but I do have a basic food hygiene cert now smile

RumBaaBaa Wed 14-Nov-12 20:48:47

Thanks for the explanation HelenMN.

TeamEdward Wed 14-Nov-12 22:06:42

PurlpleGeekyGirl - I think I'll start a new thread about EHO and small businesses on this topic, come and find me!

SuzanneC Thu 15-Nov-12 10:58:36

Message deleted by Mumsnet for breaking our Talk Guidelines. Replies may also be deleted.

sausagerolemodel Mon 19-Nov-12 02:10:49

Seeing as Barclays are watching, I would like to tell them that their centralised business support (seminars, online resources) are good but my experience at branch level as been dire. Enquiring about an overdraft I was told by my "business support manager" I would need a profit and loss forecast. I hadnt done one before and asked if she could help with a template or similar. She said I "should maybe google it".

She also recommended that I apply for the credit card online, incurring charge of £96 for the privelege (because start ups can't afford to throw away a hundred quid and it was hidden in the small print). When I called to cancel it having realised this, discovered she had access to an "in branch" waiver of the fee she could have used. I was in her office when she told me to apply online!

She clearly has no real idea of the day to day practicalities of starting a small business and Barclays could do with having better trained people in these positions that at least can point you to the online resources if they don't know the stuff themselves.

NewKateMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 19-Nov-12 12:02:32

sausagerolemodel

Seeing as Barclays are watching, I would like to tell them that their centralised business support (seminars, online resources) are good but my experience at branch level as been dire. Enquiring about an overdraft I was told by my "business support manager" I would need a profit and loss forecast. I hadnt done one before and asked if she could help with a template or similar. She said I "should maybe google it".

She also recommended that I apply for the credit card online, incurring charge of £96 for the privelege (because start ups can't afford to throw away a hundred quid and it was hidden in the small print). When I called to cancel it having realised this, discovered she had access to an "in branch" waiver of the fee she could have used. I was in her office when she told me to apply online!

She clearly has no real idea of the day to day practicalities of starting a small business and Barclays could do with having better trained people in these positions that at least can point you to the online resources if they don't know the stuff themselves.

We've been in touch with Barclays for you and they've asked us to post up the following response:

"We're sorry to hear that you have had a bad experience. Please contact Barclays direct at wr@barclays.com with your full name and postcode and they will be happy to look into this for you."

sausagerolemodel Tue 20-Nov-12 00:28:54

Oh dear. I award myself a biscuit. It was late, I was tired - I didn't intend for that to sound like quite such a rant. But thanks for the response MN and Barclays.

ClareMarriott Tue 20-Nov-12 12:05:22

hi I set up my decluttering company 6 months ago and although I have done work for clients , have a website, belong to the professional body and advertise myself as much as I can, I would be interested in learning more ways of actually getting people to part with their money! Thanks

Hi clare, have you thought about arranging to give a quick talk to mother and baby groups? I think if someone came up to me and offered to organise my home I would jump down at the chance! If I had the money to of course smile
I too am waiting for someone to place an order with my website, I've only been up and selling for 2 weeks though so I shouldnt moan too much, I dont even know if my site is showing on google when you put the key words in!!

Join the discussion

Join the discussion

Registering is free, easy, and means you can join in the discussion, get discounts, win prizes and lots more.

Register now