How to stay awake during night feeds part 8 - bring your snacks and join the fun!

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Well. That was going to be a lovely long catching-up post, written while Kid and I reclined on a rug under a tree by the river near our house. Was lovely for 45 mins but now Kid has decided enough is enough. hmm back later!

MrsNPattz Tue 05-Mar-13 15:45:24

Thanks for the new thread Goat.

That's true Larle. Maybe Amey, just need to keep going - really want my stone!!

Just had a rubbish Water babies class. Half way through he started crying, had to leave 5 mins early like last week and he cried and cried the whole time we were getting changed. He's the same now at home and has been grouchy a lot the last few days. He doesn't seem to be feeding the same either, doesn't feed as long and then keeps turning his head away and crying when I offer more. Confused blush

MrsNPattz Tue 05-Mar-13 17:38:00

Ok so I spy a pesky tooth trying to brake through my babies gum!! Got so excited and emotional when I saw it, and now we know what's wrong.

Anyone who has been to Cinebabies, could you explain it to me please? Did you go on your own? Do you have to go out if baby cries?

larlemucker Tue 05-Mar-13 17:39:01

Saving place for later!!

Susieloo Tue 05-Mar-13 17:46:39

Marking marking

Pinkponiesrock Tue 05-Mar-13 17:59:03

What is on at cinebabies this week? I've gone with others and on my own. The joy of it is that you can stay no matter what baby does, sometimes it is a total racket, other times it's silent.

Pinkponiesrock Tue 05-Mar-13 18:04:11

It's Safe Haven, just looked up their FB page smile I would come in but I have Baby Clinic tomo morn. I'm hoping they put Jude Law and Channing Tatums new film on at one point, yum yum yum smile

MissingMyMarbles Tue 05-Mar-13 18:07:28

Marking for later wink

cjel Tue 05-Mar-13 18:24:27

Saw title of thread and just had to say - Can't believe we did this because we gave up smoking when pregnant! but 30 years ago me and sister in laws used to stay awake during night feeds by having a cigarette whilst breastfeeding!!! It was ok though because we held fag in opposite hand to breast being used and blew smoke away from baby!!!! Do you think babies would be taken away from us if we did it now!!!!

Babybeesmama Tue 05-Mar-13 18:56:28

Mrsn was just going to say do you think he's teething!! Bless him, that's likely what is wrong!! We've been using herbal teething powders. - seem to help a bit!

Tonight he's had nurofen before bedtime. He's got calpol plug in & snuffle babes vaporub on, so help me god if he doesn't sleep!!

Not sure if I'm coming down with something or just sleep deprived but I feel rough today confused - had bright pink cheeks (I'm not teething) felt hot and headache all day sad x

EeyoresGloomyPlace Tue 05-Mar-13 19:09:11

shock cjel I guess that's one way to stay awake!!

Thanks for new thread goat, nice relaxing lounge by the river sounds lovely. Are you putting yourself through buggyfit tomorrow? I've got my root canal at half 9 so I can't this week, don't know which is worse tbh!

Babylump is sitting up unaided now! <proud mummy> although it could just be because her tummy's so big she's balanced like a weeble She's been sat playing with her toys this evening looking like everything's so much more interesting from this new angle.

Bedtime feed now, please God Of Sleep can't tonight be better than last night. I suppose though if its really bad again the up side is I might be so tired I'll fall asleep during dentist treatment tomorrow <desperate>

Night all catch you later on I'm sure xx

MrsNPattz Tue 05-Mar-13 19:15:03

That's ok Pink, I'm contemplating going cause I love a chick flick but I'm a bit nervous blush will see.

Yea Amey I'm pretty sure it's that! Poor little buggers lol more Calpol before bed for him! I had 18 points worth of Yorkie buttons before shock

Cjel oh my gosh!! Yes I think so lol

Oh no Heff, roof canal sounds awful - hope it's not too bad.

Babybeesmama Tue 05-Mar-13 19:54:07

Good luck for dentist heff!

Mrsn Yorkie buttons sound amazing! I love Yorkie dribbles


Pinkponiesrock Tue 05-Mar-13 20:19:20

Yorkie buttons are huge, bigger than a £2 coin easily! Mighty tasty smile baby pink has another cold, grrrrr! So much for breast is best, she seems to always be picking up colds but I suppose the boys bring home so many germs and baby pink is dragged along to all of DS2's activities she is bound to pick something up. Final feed before bed hopefully, might just go to bed myself rather than be subjected to the football tonight sad DH is very excited about it, sad man!

MrsNPattz Tue 05-Mar-13 20:50:57

Amey they are so good - better than Cadbury's I think. But the whole packet was gone very quickly!

Nearly transfer time, and hopefully it will be successful. Hubby also watching football (yawn) so I will be going to bed too!

MissingMyMarbles Tue 05-Mar-13 21:31:42

Thanks for the new thread, Goat smile

Thought I was in for another crappy night (and I still might be), because she was over-tired due to crappy naps, and I've just heard whinging less than 2 hours since bedtime. When I went up however, poor little sausage had tried to turn over and got stuck against the side of the cot. I'm a bit scared about her managing to do this (so promptly flipped her back overgrin) but I remember my SiL saying my niece was a lot better and slept through the night once she worked out that she was more comfortable on her stomach. <clutching at straws>

Well done on exam-passing, Amey's DH.

The right job will come up for your DH, Heff.

Teething is rotten, MrsN. I think Missmarbles has started with her next ones now.

Waves at everyone; see you later no doubtsmile

MissingMyMarbles Tue 05-Mar-13 21:39:03

Oh, back on slimming world, just myself not a group as I have the stuff anyway, need lots if virtual cake as trying to minimise amount of real cake grin I'll start by leaving lemon slice on the table wink

Hello all. I have been lurking for ages thanks to horrendous nights. Three hours per night has been a good night sad but two of the last three nights have not been bad at all, despite resorting to cosleeping, so vague humanness is back on the horizon.
Gosh we are getting old! Weaning and teeth! No teeth here yet but six weeks into weaning and Kid has finally realised that he can pick up his own food and put it in his mouth. If he can't get it there however, he just squishes it all over his hand and licks it off! He is also determined to spoon feed himself so there are some interesting moments as we co-manoeuvre various purees into his mouth via something resembling a mutant face pack.

mrsn hooray for first tooth! Such a milestone.
grin at all the photos! I should do something about ours soon, before they just become a large mess and I forget when and where we took them! We do use them as a screen saver on Apple TV, amazing to see Kid as a 3lb 4oz newborn alongside his current 17lb self!

Brain are things better with DP? Night times are a magnifying glass for relationships I often feel, including with baby! I hope you are getting more sleep.

Susie how are those early mornings going? We still awaken at 4-5 am and start the day. Though this morning he went back to sleep at 7:30 so I did too - until the delivery man woke me up.

Marbles are your two still tag teaming to not allow you sleep? Or is the illness subsiding? I send you many wishes for big wodges of unbroken sleep.

minipop lovely to hear from you. Sorry to hear that sleep is not so good at the moment, do pop in again with your cake !

Amey saw your aibu thread, was shock at how rude people are over there. Thought it kind of won your argument for you really - we have p&c spaces because people are incapable of being considerate these days without being made to be!

Heff ouch, good luck at the dentist tomorrow! Def worse than buggyfit sad We won't be doing it either, see below for saga of Kid's lurgy... How is your DSis, has she gone off to rehab? Will you visit?
Sorry to hear about bad nights... Hope babylump didn't pick up any bad habits off Kid hmm

funch your day looking after babyfunch sounds great! Have to say, DH looked after Kid from 5:30 until 12 on Saturday morning and was absolutely knackered by the end. I was just a little smug thinking that I do that every day, plus the rest of the afternoon! Ps where is Mr Funch?...

Larle families are funny things aren't they, even when it comes to babies. I do hope you get it all sorted out so your relatives can enjoy the wonderful early times with the baby.
Good to hear too that baby larle is ok again after the nappy scare.

Chilli hope the good nights are continuing! Any more lamingtons on the horizon?... Afgan biscuits?

Stitch I sympathise on the sleepwalking feeling. How are you feeling now, any better? I hope you at least got to enjoy the sunshine today.

Small it's nice to see you again but tell baby small that the next visit you make to us should be to tell us what life is like as a graduate of the thread!

Panzee hello and a very belated welcome, hope everything is settling in well and that you are enjoying your lovely squidgy LO.

Pink how fab with the lambs! I second the request for pics. Homesick NZer here you realise, I have to get my fix of lambs somehow! grin

noroom thank you for the thread idea! What a sanity saver everyone here has been. what did our mums do before the Internet, my mind refuses to contemplate such horror

So unfortunately Kid has been really unwell for a little while, hence the bad nights I guess. His eczema is driving him nuts (Aveeno lotion on the way finally though, stitch ) and he has had D&V pretty thoroughly. Also wheezy and really stuffed up at night poor thing. All a bit of a worry, especially a whole week of diarrhoea. sad we have an appointment tomorrow (though not with Kid's lovely paediatrician) so will see what happens there. I had to cancel a KIT day on Monday as couldn't leave him with childminder. It was supposed to be his trial day. Oh well. He still seems pretty happy during the day, and is full on practising rocking on all fours prior to crawling. Also loves standing up! So plenty of energy there I think!

Right I will shut up now blush hello to anyone I have missed and sleepy dust for all.

Oh, yes please to cake and I offer white chocolate and peanut butter cookies.

Babybeesmama Tue 05-Mar-13 22:11:02

Goat - that was amazing name checking grin I'm impressed! Sorry to hear kid has been poorly! Hope he is on the mend! Baby bee also likes to grab spoon when feeding & it flies everywhere. He's getting a little temper on him, I let him chew a bit of my crumpet today but he got a big bit off & I was worried he would choke - took it off him and he howled! Tears and everything! And he actually managed the big bit blush maybe he's choosing BLW himself!

On first bottle, bit early but hoping after this he goes back down - in his own room!

See you all later I'm sure!! X

MissingMyMarbles Tue 05-Mar-13 22:20:44

Wow Goat! Heuoje postgrin Well done in the name checking!

Doing first feed, a semi-respectable 3 hours in. Hopefully this means next feed not until at least 2. Nappy leaked though. At least she's changed now and hopefully it won't leak again.

Susieloo Tue 05-Mar-13 23:40:12

1st feed of the night - hoping he will now go through until 7 with no fuss-I'm dreaming I think....

Babybeesmama Wed 06-Mar-13 01:29:15

Been unsettled since 10 here sad he's got a horrible cough. DH just gone into other room, he was driving me mad anyway, he's SO slow when he's been woken up I'm like ffs how long does it take to fill a bottle up & warm it!

Anyway, enough DH bashing. I'm typing this with one eye closed, I'm super tired hmm x

Susieloo Wed 06-Mar-13 02:09:40

2nd wake up but not feeding, not sure why he's so unsettled tonight.

MrsNPattz Wed 06-Mar-13 02:24:12

First feed here, he woke not long after transferring at bed time but a feed settled him. I think it's easier now I know what's wrong.

Goat wow that is one impressive post!! Sorry kid has been ill, hope he is on the mend.

Amey hubby is slow without being woken up, he faffs even when changing a nappy lol

Marbles well done on starting slimming world again - good luck!

Larle did you speak to your family?

BrainGoneAwol Wed 06-Mar-13 02:29:48

Dodgy internet here so just a little post in case I lose it all. Is it cheating to say 'what goat said'?! That was an amazing post!

Nights are a tiny bit better. Back to 5-6 hours in 3-4 chunks so I'm not as crazy as I was. You're right about babies/tiredness and relationships. Dp hasn't done any settling, day or night, since last week but knows this is not sustainable and we're going to try to work on it. Dp only sees Babybrain for 30 mins in the morning and then at weekends and babybrain seems to only think of dp for playing. Can I ask how it is for the rest of you?

Well he seems to be asleep so going to attempt trf. Poor little boy was doing high pitched wailing. I think it's his teeth so I've calpoled (that should be a word!) him and it seems to have helped.

Sleepy dust to all.

grin I had a whole week's worth of posting to do!
Tonight is interesting hmm Having vommed an entire feed just before bedtime kid of course woke up hungry. Is also still pooing for Britain - including when I had just picked him up from a fresh nappy change. He is now flailing round the bed, having perked right up when I tried to write this post, and tried to abandon his bottlein favour of grabbing the phone off me.
brain DH is pretty good with kid, sees him more at the moment I think. We have patches when he barely sees him if there are parents' evenings etc. There are odd moments, like I have to remind him to feed solids and leave them ready, or he will just give a bottle. But I think we are lucky.

EeyoresGloomyPlace Wed 06-Mar-13 07:45:30

Wow last night was such an improvement, bed at 7 then no wakings until half 1, then down again until half 5 when we co slept until now. I feel loads better for a half decent nights kip smile

brain my DH is by his own admission "a bit shit with babies" hmm which translates to him not really doing anything with babylump other than the odd cuddle or ten minutes playing until she cries and gets handed back to me... Tbh although I know it sounds bad its ok because he's so fantastic with dd1, once she got to about 10 months and was past that real baby stage he felt more able to communicate with her and now they're like the terrible twosome smile I'm sure he'll be just as good with babylump once she's past her current stage of histrionics whenever I'm not around.

Got to get up and have brekkie now then force myself to go to the dentist.


Oh ffs. His bum just won't stop (sorry tmi!!)
Means we can't go to classes, see anyone with a baby etc etc. I am going to get cabin fever. My next post might be an incoherent ramble about my imaginary friend who lives on the shelf above the tv. hmm

MrsNPattz Wed 06-Mar-13 08:43:42

Little man was up for an hour earlier, but then slept until 8 so not so bad!

Brain, hubby is really good with little man but as you might have seen, we had to have a chat about how much he was going out!

MissingMyMarbles Wed 06-Mar-13 09:05:41

Oh Goatsad Hope poor little Kid. Hope he's better soon.

Heff, clearly, your DH and mine are cut from the same cloth. He also admits to being shit with babies, but is fab once they're a little older. He and DD1 have a great time together. He's also much much better this time around so yes, words were had first time around!

Hope you manage to get sorted with your family Larle.

Rubbish night, but better than the night before, although yes my two are still tag-teaming an assault on any potential stretch of sleep. DM is coming later though so they can tag-team her insteadwink

larlemucker Wed 06-Mar-13 11:24:05

Morning all.
Bad day today as its 5 years since my mum suddenly passed away sad. Because of this I am waiting to call the family and sort things out as emotions will be running high at the mo.

goat well done with the name checking, very impressive! I can hardly remember what I have typed half the time let alone what other people have written! Hope kid is better soon and he doesn't pass whatever he has onto you and the rest of the family.

Heff and Marbles I think its a man thing. My Dh has always had so much more patience than me but with baby larle his patience runs out very quickly and can't cope with his crying. He even went so far as to saying baby larle hated him as he found it so hard to settle him. I don' think it helps them when you are breast feeding as its so easy to stick them on a boob to calm them down. Having said that Dh bathes baby larle, gets him ready for bed every night and gives him his bottle (of expressed milk no more formula woohoo).

Well I am trying to gather myself to go down the cemetery with baby larle, went to the local garden centre yest and bought a lovely planter for mum. Its just so sad that baby larle will never meet her, she would have spoiled him rotten!!

larle my every sympathy for your loss. Anniversaries are hard. {{{hugs}}} and thanks

EeyoresGloomyPlace Wed 06-Mar-13 13:34:09

Thinking of you today larle, hope you're doing ok <hugs>

goat poor little kid hope he's back to his normal bouncy self soon, and that you've hung on to your sanity in the mean time.

My mouth feels all beaten up, and I've got to go back for part 2 on the 20th sad

Ouch heff hope you have something nice as a reward for surviving the dentist!
And I had to grin at your description of Kid as bouncy - so accurate!

MissingMyMarbles Wed 06-Mar-13 18:33:15

Thinking of you today, Larle; anniversaries are really hard thanks

Well, Missmarbles is asleep already! She had a mammoth 2 hour nap this morning and I'm sure she would have gone longer if I hadn't disturbed her. She then fell asleep again 2 hours after waking up (although she was in the doing so all bets are off then), and she's been yawning and grizzly all afternoon. She did have rosy cheeks and a hot face in the night so I hope it's teeth coupled with the crap naps yesterday and poor nights the last two, rather than her brewing anything.

See you all later. Going to tidy up s bit downstairs. DM is on her way grin

Babybeesmama Wed 06-Mar-13 19:04:24

Thinking of you larle, must be tough sad virtual hugs.

Heff - confused at dentist! Hope you're ok!!

Well I've got a very very snotty baby sad with a cough too. He's not at all happy. So am likely in for a bad night as usual! I spoke to HV today, she assures me sleep will improve once he's fully weaned.... If it doesn't then I'm packing him off to stay at her house the night! grin

I had my hair chopped today and bought some new clothes (size 16 - bit depressing) but new boots too - size 8 - the only size 8 ill ever be is feet!!

My best mate is on a date tonight! I set her up on e harmony as she was really down after being dumped by an idiot sad. I'm excited on her behalf! Xx

MissingMyMarbles Wed 06-Mar-13 19:41:02

Oh how wrong was I??!
Never had transfer fails at this time of night. Now we have had fivesad She's bouncing off the ceiling....

MrsNPattz Wed 06-Mar-13 21:37:37

Thinking of you Larle thanks

Poor baby Bee - hope he feels better soon and doesn't give you a rough night Amey!

Hope your mouth settles Heff!

Hope little one is sleeping now Marbles!

Bedtime here. I didn't go to Cinebabies this morning. We walked to Asda instead and I made Creamy Sweetcorn Soup. Hubby had half day so I got a two hour nap this afternoon while he took little man to his mums. Was lovely, so how can I still be tired?! Blood tests came back normal so I just have to accept being shattered.

Tooth still isn't through so am wondering how tonight will be! Night all xx

funchum8am Wed 06-Mar-13 21:45:49

Larle, thinking of you and hoping you are remembering your mum at her best, it helps me to do that with loved ones though I am lucky to still have both parents and stepmum.

Goat so glad you are back in circulation!

Heff sorry to hear of root canal pain, hope it is all behind you very soon.

I am going to be a teensy bit controversial here and refuse to let the fellas off the hook - I think crapness with babies can be partly overcome with practice <desperately salves career bitch conscience and also hopes to be supportive of Brain's plans to get DP more involved in settling>. But of course most men get nowhere near the hours with LOs that mums do so are not forced to learn how to parent babies so well. Obviously in the very early months there is a biological imperative for mum to be the main carer if you are breast feeding but I think by about 3-4 months men can do most of what we do <salve, salve, conscience is feeling better the longer I stand on my soapbox> and I am certainly utterly amazed at how DH is doing with babyfunch. She was really extra smily when I got home most days last week and he reported a certain amount of grizzliness on her part so I worrie she needed me there, but now she seems really happy with either of us and is a delight during the daytime apparently. I think babies are more adaptable than we think the gents are quite another matter

Daddyfunch has registered with MN and reads the thread avidly but hasn't quite summoned up the courage to post yet <waves to daddy finch>. He and babyfunch were a huge hit with my school's child development a level class yesterday though, so he knows he can can get on with a gaggle of women!

I forgot to express today at work and while it became a bit uncomfortable later in the afternoon, I lasted til bedtime feed. Think this may be the end of expressing, which is good in terms of convenience but very sad in that it means babyfunch will be on way more formula than bm. Hey ho.

Praying that DH have a better night tonight. Half hourly wakings after 2 this morning hmm. Hoping for the same for everyone!

funchum8am Wed 06-Mar-13 21:47:24

Mrsn have you been tested for interactive thyroid? My mum felt awful with it for ages til she was diagnosed. They only tested her because my uncle we diagnosed and it runs in families sometimes, despite her having classic symptoms.nntiredness is the main indicator I believe.

funchum8am Wed 06-Mar-13 22:06:34

Oops underactive thyroid not interactive!! Though an interactive thyroid could be the first step towards human wifi hotspots....

tinkletinklestar Wed 06-Mar-13 22:31:30

Arf @ an interactive thyroid.

Hi all. Hoping that its okay to join in the fun.

Have dd2 who will be 8 weeks on friday. She is on hypoallergenic, non milk foul tasting formula after a horrendous start to life.

Would love to know...

How do you get longer between feeds?

She currently goes 4oz every 3 hours but only sleeping for 2 inbetween as she takes an hour to finish a bottle!

Would be so happy for a bit longer at least

tinkle welcome! And congratulations on your DD. sorry to hear about the tough start for you both.
I really sympathise with the slow bottle feeds - Kid was exactly the same, and feeding often. He was prem and couldn't suck properly for ages. I promise it does get better eventually - I think for Kid it was partly having enough weight on him (this helped hunger levels too!) and simply practising. In the meantime I hope you have someone who can do relief shifts for you. It can be so difficult, not just because of sleep deprivation but just because there is never any space for you, physically or mentally. Take care of yourself!

I too am grin at the interactive thyroid! New era I'm teaching dawns...

MissingMyMarbles Wed 06-Mar-13 23:33:14

Sadly Missmarbles did not settle so is in bed with me, had a feed and gone over now. She is very upset about something, which is most unlike her sad DD1 is also in here and DH is in her room as he has to work in the morning and couldn't possibly be disturbed by me cosleeping [hmn] I happen to agree with you Funch, but as I'm still breast feeding and didn't express much I suppose I didn't persuade DH hard enough. Probably not a good night to talk about his ineptitude it, though as I am very pissed off with him for a variety of reasons and could remain objectiveangry and breathe.....

MrsNPattz Thu 07-Mar-13 01:15:03

First feed here - for some reason I thought I had checked the time a while ago and it was 2, so I thought it was about 4 no and was shocked when I saw the time blush must have been dreaming!

Funch lol! yea I think one of the blood tests was for my thyroid! I think maybe it's just being a mum that tires me out lol don't know how you manage, working full time as well.

MrsNPattz Thu 07-Mar-13 05:31:36

Second feed and hopefully not up time!! It's oh so quiet......

Babybeesmama Thu 07-Mar-13 05:32:51

Quiet on here tonight! We are not having a good one as predicted. Poor little mite has been coughing till he's sick sad. I've co slept most of night as I was scared he might be sick in sleep! X

larlemucker Thu 07-Mar-13 05:59:01

Morning. Thank you for your kind words, baby larle has snuggled with me all day which has made me feel better.

This is our first feed of the night! Baby larle has been asleep since about 11! Had to get up and express! Maybe he knew I needed a good sleep tonight to recharge after an emotionally draining day.

Welcome twinkle, sorry to hear you and LO had abad start. Sorry but no advice re slow feeding, I'm breast feeding and baby larle had no problems taking a bottle. Have you spoken to HV? Maybe you need to try a different bottle/teat.

Sorry to everyone out there with poorly LOs, hope they get better soon.

Is an interactive thyroid one where you have a little dial on you neck like you have for the central heating to control it?!!

MrsNPattz Thu 07-Mar-13 06:53:45

Still awake here, really hoping for some more sleep!

Welcome Twinkle!

We are coming up to weaning time, and I feel a bit sad about it. His feeds will start dropping so he will need my milk less sad and I also just can't believe he's at that age already! Is this normal or am I nuts?

tinkletinklestar Thu 07-Mar-13 07:34:59


I had the best night so far last night, 10-3.

It seems being a bit cruel yesterday helped, I was distracting/white noise/ rocking until she reached 4 hours for the next feed.

I think shes only been drinking 3oz hence the lack if space between feeds. Hopefully I can keep this up today!

18 D&Vless hours and counting! grin

larlemucker Thu 07-Mar-13 12:10:41

Well I have spoken to my nana. My auntie is upset as I put a comment on fb after she sent our Xmas card with my parents married name on the envelope (mum been dead 5 years, parents separated for 9 years). Apparently I'm not allowed to be upset by her lack of thought Family, bloody pain!!!!!!!!

Smallgreenone Thu 07-Mar-13 12:16:48

Hi all, I'm still lurking! Baby small had an awful night on Tuesday and I was fully prepared for a repeat but then he slept through confused. I can only think he must be ill! He is also refusing to eat anything today but will guzzle his bottles. Do weaned babies do food refusing does anyone know? Is my food that bad?! I can't see a tooth so don't think it's that and he is otherwise fine.
I haven't really caught up on the thread but will with my next bad night which will probably be tonight!

small I find that Kid tends either to want milk or food on any one day. I got told to look at intake over a week rather than a day for peace of mind!

larle confused re your aunt. Hope she is over it and things are on the mend!

Susieloo Thu 07-Mar-13 13:58:48

Hello everyone, dp did night feeds last night which was great as we were in no nap hell all day yesterday, I was explaining to him how frustrating it is trying to get him to sleep in the day and his response was "you've been off with him for 8 months he should be Ina routine by now" I was not impressed!!!

Very strange day today, all bottles refused up until now and I've had to switch back to a slow flowing teat and a bottle of ready to feed. He's been v grumpy and clingy the last couple of days so I'm wondering if its teeth, looks like the babies are conspiring again marbles smile

Hello daddy funch, feel free to de lurk if you feel like letting us know how your days are going, we would love to hear from you.

Mountains of house work to do but coffee first I think.

Babybeesmama Thu 07-Mar-13 16:43:12

Brilliant that he slept through small! I think food refusing is normal when weaning, & we found some days DD ate barely anything then next day ate loads! He could be getting a tooth tho!

Susie, I think I would be angry at DH if he said that to me!!

Oh larle sad hope you sort things out! Shame she didn't just call you & sort it out at time rather than letting it go on & you worrying she didn't care. Hope you can sort it out thanks!

We've been at play centre today as usual - baby bee went on slides on my knee! He's still under the weather but seems a little better than last night. Only drunk 4oz of milk all day tho so I imagine we will have a feedathon tonight!! X

MrsNPattz Thu 07-Mar-13 17:43:52

Hi guys - can I ask a question? Does anyone find themselves feeling bored? I have been feeling like this recently and it makes me feel really guilty!

Larle oh no I hope you sort things out!

Susie I would be really annoyed at that!

Hope poorly babies feel better soon xx

Susieloo Thu 07-Mar-13 17:58:31

I'm frequently bored mrsn!!!! Think it's a normal part of it all, def don't feel guilty about it.

small babyloo's appetite changes all the time and we had a few days not long ago when he didn't want any food but was ploughing through milk-I rang the hv in the end because on one day he had about 30oz!!!

Today he's not been interested in either bottles or sleep so not sure what tonight will bring, dp on shift now until Sunday night so I can get some rest drink wine

larle families are so complicated sometimes!!!

heff how are your teeth?

Good news on the d&v front goat

<waves> to everyone else stitch, twinkle, marbles, brain, pink and hope I haven't left anyone out!!

Smallgreenone Thu 07-Mar-13 19:18:36

Oh well he seems normal then! Babies are so contrary! He did eat some of those carrot stick things that look like wotsits but aren't and an Ella's organic biscuit just refused everything from me with a spoon. He's in bed now and I will not be long behind him as I'm anticipating a bad night. Also DH wants us to go out tomorrow night so I need to get some energy.
Mrsn- yes to feeling bored! I think that may be why my online shopping habit has spiralled out of control!

Babybeesmama Thu 07-Mar-13 19:36:42

Mrsn I did find with DD I sometimes felt bored, I don't have time to be bored anymore! Well, I mean we go out everyday, there's always some activity planned, mostly mornings, then we come home for lunch usually & sometimes nip out or see friends around 3. I hate being in the house all day - drives me bonkers! I did find with DD that when I went back to work it made the days off that I had with her really special so I never felt bored!

Speaking of work - had an e mail today and they are asking people if they would like to drop days/hours (nhs money saving!! - even tho dept is still short staffed!) and also asking people to take unpaid leave to help save money! I'm going back 2.5 days so I might ask to take 1 day per week unpaid so for first month I'm only doing 1.5 days per week. Dreading it!!

Expecting a bad one tonight - just because they are all bad at the minute!! X

Babybeesmama Thu 07-Mar-13 19:41:26

Oh forgot to say small - I did baby bee some pear and baby rice this afternoon - he pulled faces and made gagging gestures - its normally his favourite, so I thought oh not hungry, he then pinched DD's breadstick and houmous - loved it & tried to bite breadstick - cue screaming when I took it away, so DH got him an Ella's kitchen pouch of apples and bananas and he wolfed the lot down! confused Obviously my cooking is not up to his standard' x

EeyoresGloomyPlace Thu 07-Mar-13 19:47:01

goat how is kid today? Hope your quarantine period is soon at an end.

funch I think you're pretty much right in your view on DH involvement, I suppose my problem is that it is easier to allow it than to 'force' him to get better, seeing as he never has had the same involvement as me and never can while he's at work and I'm on leave also I am a massive control freak not to mention demanding perfectionist so you're right that probably its due to circumstance, but then again I still feel I've been more in tune with both girls as babies from the beginning. Anyway though, he's fab with toddlers so I let him off, despite the regular occasional grumble wink <waves> to daddyfunch if you're out there, hope you're enjoying your time with baby funch, de-lurk and come discuss cake with us in the early hours soon smile

Teeth ok today thanks susie, just a bit sore around where the anaesthetic was injected. I'm such a weed though, most of you probably wouldn't have batted an eyelid!

mrsn I definitely get the boredom, don't worry it's perfectly normal. This morning I was seriously bored, had no plans until 2ish and we were up at 7, could feel myself getting really lazy so we got some paints out and did potato prints, babylump mushed some carrot around and then we all had a bath, managed to pass a good few hours and I didn't feel so bad afterwards.

larle such a shame your family didn't speak to you in the first place, have you sorted things out now? Facebook causes so many problems! Hope you're ok xx

Welcome twinkle sorcery to hear of bad start, are you both ok now?

Sorry to anyone I've missed, finishing post now as DH and I are off out for a meal on our own and I've got to go get ready. <Very excited at prospect of time to ourselves>

Hope everyone gets a good night tonight xx

EeyoresGloomyPlace Thu 07-Mar-13 19:49:39

Sorcery? Sorry... Stoopid phone <mutters>

funchum8am Thu 07-Mar-13 20:08:21

Excited for you having a DATE heff!! Cannot wait for my dm's next visit so we can do the same.

Mrsn I was bored quite a lot, and I knew I would be, hence early return to work grin. Now when I see her I always want a bit more time with her which is lovely (though in the evenings I see her after nap and do bedtime so 5:15-7:00 but she is often very tired which makes it a bit hard work. Really looking forward to Saturday and my babyfunch time when DH is at rugby. the fact I plan to go to the new local patisserie not a factor at all

I have realised I never feel tired at work and am pretty ok at home as I can go to bed early, so have started to feel more normal than I have in months. I think DH gets a fairly good deal since I utterly sympathise when he is exhausted and am really happy to help if he should reach breaking point. We are a good team on nights!

Larle glad you have worked out what the problem was, hope your aunty stops stropping.

Brain are you out there?!

Goat hope you are post quarantine soon if not already!

Argh can't see other posts to reply to on app, hang on....

funchum8am Thu 07-Mar-13 20:09:32

Welcome twinkle!

Susie hope the weird behaviour and eating settles down soon.

Small am very envious of your full night of sleep!

MrsNPattz Thu 07-Mar-13 21:05:40

Glad it's not just me then - I feel guilty about so many things when it comes to little man. I think I will look for another class to go to. And try and plan as much as I can. When is everyone back to work again? I'm back in September. I really, really want to get to goal so I can apply to be a WW leader while I'm still off.

I'm knackered tonight as usual! It's funny how you say you aren't as tired now you are back at work Funch, just shows how tiring it is even though I feel like I'm not doing anything half the time.

Heff my mouth was sore where the injections went after I got my tooth out so you are not a wimp! Or I'm a wimp too grin

I am out tonight! Without Kid!! On my own!!!
Keep looking in my bag and thinking 'oh **, I have forgotten the nappy bag - disaster!' grin
This is the third time in nearly 8 months that I have left the house without him...

Yep to boredom. Sometimes I think if I have to build that damn tower to be knocked over one more time, I shall throw it all out the window confused Just as well Kid has a really catching giggle to keep me going!

Quarantine nearly up! Should make class tomorrow morning.

MissingMyMarbles Fri 08-Mar-13 00:10:54

Heff I think your DH and mine, and you and me seem to be scarily alike, as I could have written that paragraph about DH's grin

Hello Tinkle smile

I'm back at work three weeks on Monday - booooo! Although, as I do have to go back I am looking forward to starting my new jobsmile

Missmarbles has self-settledshock and I'm sure it's not a one-off either!! We ended up co-sleeping last night as she just wouldn't settle in her cot and being as I really needed to sleep, I cut my losses early. Tonight began badly but she flipped onto her tummy and went to sleep! Then when we checked her, as we were coming to bed I think it woke her, so I fed her at half eleven, and had a transfer failure but she didn't sound serious so I shut the door and ducked behind the cot to see what would happen; within 30 seconds she was on her tummy and asleep! Now I am crapping myself and not expecting to sleep a wink despite thinking that she will probably sleep all nightconfused

MissingMyMarbles Fri 08-Mar-13 00:14:53

Fun times Goat and Heff! grin Enjoy!

Missmarbles is a bit on and off from meal to meal, Small, and a determined spoon refusergrin I was forced to do BLW whether I wanted to or not. I planned on doing a mix but she wouldn't allow it! She does let me feed some things with a spoon now; think she worked out that yoghurt and soup are actually quite difficult to eat with your hands wink

MrsNPattz Fri 08-Mar-13 00:16:20

First feed here, I can tell his mouth is sore poor love - hope this tooth emerges very soon!

MissingMyMarbles Fri 08-Mar-13 02:34:45

Ha! So wrong about decent sleep! Been up twice since midnight already...

Smallgreenone Fri 08-Mar-13 02:40:04

Well tonight not eating today he's had his first feed at same time as normal.
Hope miss marbles stays sleeping for you
I'm back in September too but not 100% I'm going to go back yet after they got rid of my job I used to do! They will offer me something else but I only want to do 3 days anyway and 2 of those days I want to be at home so not sure they will agree to it! To be honest I don't need a super super career and would secretly be very happy with a part time job in my favourite shop..........waitrose! The salary wouldn't be the same but we'd save a fortune on our weekly shop which currently costs a small fortune!
Hope you're all snoozing

EeyoresGloomyPlace Fri 08-Mar-13 03:32:36

Third night in a row of two-hourly wakings sad She surely can't keep this up?!

Had a lovely meal out with DH, then popped into our local on the way home but DM called at 10 to say babylump was wake and had got herself into a state so had to abandon and come home. Nice night while it lasted though! goat how was your night off?

marbles its good to know I'm not alone, sometimes I look at everyone else's DH getting really involved with baby care and I think it must just be mine who is a bit pants!

Attempting transfer, desperately hoping for more than two hours sleep this tune xxx

daddyfunch Fri 08-Mar-13 03:53:19

Right, time to de-lurk and say "Hello"! Am taking up my customary 3.30am spot on the sofa while babyfunch settles after a mixed night so far. Would quite like her to be on top form today as planning to go swimming for the first time this morning - any advice?

Ah here you all are! Kept looking at old thread and thinking it was quiet, missed the link, silly me, as if you chatterboxes would be quiet grin

<hands round thread 8 celebratory chocolate>

Welcome daddyfunch smile Tips for swimming: more than one towel and milk ready for afterwards plus snack for yourself of course. Swimming always makes you hungry.

Will be back later to catch up, transferring now...

MrsNPattz Fri 08-Mar-13 04:28:23

Second feed here zzzzzzzzzz

Welcome daddyfunch smile sounds like you are doing a great job! Swimming is great fun, a few tips I was given were take two towels for little one, take carrier bags for wet stuff, get little one ready last on way in and first on way out, and enjoy grin

Small I'm not very career driven either, really don't want to go back but with me feeling bored I've realised I need to do something.

Hello daddyfunch, welcome! Hope your 3:30 sofa sojourn was brief.

Night out was great thanks heff. Went to a concert by a student of mine. It was shock The programme was amazing and she was brilliant.

Tonight has been crap though. Apparently he wouldn't settle in early part of night, and hasn't since. Lots of flailing and kicking, then the now obligatory overflowing nappy and two feeds of 200 ml each. shock That can't be right surely, taking half his milk intake for the day at night?? Am I going to end up with a giant baby that eats half the kitchen at one fell swoop? <desperate emoticon>

Susieloo Fri 08-Mar-13 05:56:49

2nd waking of the night but just for a cuddle, dp did the 11am feed and is now snoring, I don't mind doing the cuddly wake ups, bit gutted the alarm is going to go off in an hour.

We are swimming today too daddyfunch, I take a big bath towel for babyloo rather than a baby towell and then bundle him up in it and let him play with it while I put my clothes on then I get him dressed.

Right attempting transfer.....

MissingMyMarbles Fri 08-Mar-13 06:10:12

Hello, Daddyfunch smile Enjoy your swimming. Easy clothes for afterwards, a babygro even, for baby Funch.

Heff, I let DH off too because he is so good with DD1, and someone needs to be, especially in the early days with a baby as they take up so much time. I'm also pretty sure he could cope if he had to.

After a poor start, we have had a four hour stretch. Sick of her nappies though, leaked yet again resulting a in a change and feed just after I posted last time. Not sure what to do about nappies as it seems to be volume rather than size. Can anyone recommend a biodegradable disposable??

funchum8am Fri 08-Mar-13 07:14:23

<would welcome our newest poster but he is in bed next to me irl so it is too weird> grin

Terrible night here - not bad til 2:30 but then constant tears so full nappy change and clothes change, then bottle from DH, then 20 min stretches til 5:45 then up. Poor daddyfunch. I was up for a bit doing the nappy change and then couldn't sleep so am also really tired (this is fate's revenge for me saying I never feel tired at work!). And now she is asleep again! Grr.

Hope swimming tires her out! Thanks for all the tips, I am so looking forward to hearing all about it and the fabled post swimming great night's sleep

Have a fab day everyone!

EeyoresGloomyPlace Fri 08-Mar-13 08:15:54

Welcome daddyfunch, sorry to hear of the bad night. I second all the tips above, extra (full sized) towels, easy clothes, food and bags for wet stuff. Have a lovely time smile

Hi stitch glad you found us again <scoffs celebratory thread 8 chocolate>

Well we're up here, she kept up the two hourly wakings all night sad Weaning is due to commence this week, she's had a few bits and pieces to chew on to keep her happy while we eat and has really enjoyed them so going to take the plunge and do it properly now so maybe it might help at nighttime deluded

Swimming today too, dd1 has her lesson and babylump gets to play in the crèche which she always seems to enjoy, then a few NCT friends are heading over for coffee later. Much needed coffee!

Have a lovely day everyone.
Heff xx

larlemucker Fri 08-Mar-13 08:42:43

morning all,
sorry to hear there were so many bad nights out there. Baby larle slept 11-5 then we had a couple of transfer fails and he woke up doing his usual 8am poo!! Isn't weird how they seem to poo at the same time each day!!

Welcome daddyfunch, hope you enjoy the swimming, we've not started yet as we're waiting for two spaces to come up so we can go with a friend baby larles future wife!!!!!!

Heff hope you enjoy your coffee with the NCT girls, we don't have NCT locally so I never joined but thankfully have a few friends with babies otherwise I would be so bored! I haven't quite got to the bored stage yet but baby larle is only 10 weeks!
I try and break the days down into chunks which means I never get bored and theres always something to watch on the tv!!!

Glad you found us stitch, I'll take a chocolate or two as I'm pigging out a bit this week because I start WW on tuesday sad.

Sorry about the nappies marbles, we use a combination of reuseables and asdas little angels, no experience of biodegradables.

We're off to bumps and babes this morn, we're going to walk there and then walk up the really steep hill on the way home!!! Then I plan chick flick afternoon as I have one day from lovefilm.

Have a fab day everyone x

Babybeesmama Fri 08-Mar-13 09:44:53

Welcome daddy funch grin! Hope you are enjoying being a stay at home daddy!

We had a better night than usual, still a good few wakings but less screaming. He also slept on his front for main part of night and seemed much comfier and more settled? I was nervous & kept checking him!

Small and mrsn I am also not very career driven & often feel like I should be really, lots of my Uni friends have done loads of post grad stuff, I did a post grad cert in forensic radiography just before I had DD, and enjoyed it and plan was to join the uk forensic radiography team which means I would go out to disasters such as tsunami 9/11 etc as well as doing my normal job, as the team x-ray to identify bodies, after I had DD I was worried about leaving her if I had to go somewhere and DM was having kittens about something happening to me! But maybe ill look into it again, it is very interesting.

Have lovely days all! We are about to do baby sensory grin x

MrsNPattz Fri 08-Mar-13 09:53:15

How long does it usually take for a tooth to come once you can feel it??

Babybeesmama Fri 08-Mar-13 11:13:53

Ours was only a couple of days mrsn but think it can vary, give him lots of teething toys as biting will help it come through x

<hurls herself in full rugby tackle at heff before she eats all the chocolates and stuffs a few into her mouth as keeping-awake material>

Went to Tiny Talk this morning, naturally kid slet peacefully for most of the time. Since I couldn't. hmm

Amey that does sound interesting. If quite draining emotionally.

Hooray for better nights and boo to bad. Surely there is light on the horizon? <can you tell sleep delirium has set in>

daddyfunch Fri 08-Mar-13 12:34:41

Thanks for all the advice re swimming. Having remembered to pack everything, walked to the car in the rain, driven to the leisure centre, found and paid for a parking space, paid for entry, got changed, got Sophie changed, put stuff in the locker, forgotten to shower, gone back & showered and tentatively taken our first steps into the water, a little boy decided to throw up in the pool meaning we all had to get out while they cleaned it! Brilliant! We can't have been in for more than ten seconds!! On the plus side they did give me a refund so not in as bad a mood as I was at the time!

MrsNPattz Fri 08-Mar-13 17:06:44

Oh no daddyfunch, nightmare sad don't let it put you off though!

Thanks for advice Amey, I keep waking up each morning expecting to see a tooth but it's still the same lol

Had a nice day today, baby group was cancelled so we went to pets at home for rabbit food then popped into my work where little man was utterly adored smile then had lunch with two of my friends - walked there and back but it's horrible, cold and wet! Little man has been happily playing on his mat for an hour so I have had a chill out which has been lovely!

Susieloo Fri 08-Mar-13 18:39:04

That sucks daddyfunch, particularly with all the preperation that goes into getting there in the first place, hopefully next time will be plain sailing.

We had water babies today and bb (babyloo's new name-never liked babyloo it's too twee) did 3 underwater swims not really swimming just me dragging him underwater and he wasn't very impressed, doesn't help that he keeps his mouth open in the pool trying to drink it!

Re careers I really need to change my job, partly because I've been doing it too long so there is no challenge anymore and partly because its sucking the life out of me and has been for a while, also may well be out of a job in 2015 due to government changes being implemented. So with all that in mind and because I've been thinking about it for a while I'm going to a train to teach roadshow in a couple of weeks and I've been doing loads of research-this has all come about because I've been helping my god daughter with her homework which I love and she said 'you should be a teacher' and I thought 'yes I should!' I know there are a couple of teachers on here so I may be asking if I can pm you as I get further along the process - if you don't mind of course!

amey that sounds v interesting about your job.

Dp on night feeds and we're hoping the magic of water babies will mean a good night.

Have good nights everyone

funchum8am Fri 08-Mar-13 18:49:59

susie yay come and be a teacher! If you find a good well run school it is the best job ever specially in the holidays Are you thinking primary or secondary?

Susieloo Fri 08-Mar-13 18:59:04

Thanks funch Secondary hopefully-I've got a degree in English and European literature and Sociology so would hopefully be an English teacher, I'm going to observe some classes at a secondary and a sixth form in the next couple of weeks.

larlemucker Fri 08-Mar-13 19:40:31

susie going to do some observations is a great idea. I have to admit the PGCE isn't easy, especially if like me you do it quite a while after your first degree! It's really hard to get back into the habit of writing essays!!
However the job is fab and very rewarding. Yes there are days where you are bogged down with marking and planning and when ofsted are in you don't sleep for a week! There are some times when you have kids being mean, this is my 3rd year teaching and I've cried once over a child (who was violent towards me when I was pregnant) which is pretty good when I talk to my other PGCE friends!! I teach secondary science btw and feel free to pm if you want any advice although others here are probably more experienced than me

We've had a lovely afternoon watching chick flicks and baby larle has just dropped off to sleep on my lap without rocking or feeding, very impressed as it wasn't intentional.

<Sharing baby larles sleepy dust in the hope you all have better nights tonight>

Susieloo Fri 08-Mar-13 19:51:07

Thank you larle, I'm hoping to apply to do schools direct because we just couldn't afford for me not to have a salary-the timing is tricky because I would need to see if I could take voluntary redundancy and then would need to be accepted by a school-I'm aiming to hopefully start September 2014 or even 2015-lots of ifs and buts and I may also feel its not for me after being in an actual classroom!!

daddyfunch Fri 08-Mar-13 21:47:53

You will soon work out whether it is for you if you observe some lessons but I would say try at least three schools as they are all soooo different, even if they look similar on paper. English is a lot of marking BUT you get to know your pupils really really well as you see them about four lessons per week. (Bitter once a week RE and Citizenship teacher here, though I also teach history, geography, Latin, and classics where I get the honour of 2-3 lessons per week!)

Babyfunch fast asleep since 7 as usual and we started a 10:30 dream feed a couple of nights ago which has moved her first feed from 12:30ish to 2:30ish which is good. I am on bottle duty tonight (bm sadly doesn't get the concept of extra feeds at weekends) so need to stay up for a bit longer. DH happily asleep on the sofa having done a seriously long day. <waves to daddyfunch from other side of the sofa and the awake/asleep divide>

daddyfunch Fri 08-Mar-13 21:48:24

Oops just realised I am logged in as DH. Tis funch here.

daddyfunch Fri 08-Mar-13 21:48:48

Are we the only couple on MN with this issue, do you think?

MissingMyMarbles Fri 08-Mar-13 22:05:26

Been up the stairs hourly, and feeding, since bedtime hmm Hope it's not setting the tone for the night....

Susie what do you currently do?

The manager of my new job rang this morning; it's all getting awfully close and real confused

MrsNPattz Fri 08-Mar-13 22:15:16

Lol Funch's - I think you must be!

Bedtime here, little man has been asleep for some time so I'm not sure I will get much sleep before first feed!

What are everyone's Mother's Day plans? We are going out for lunch just us three I think, then seeing PIL and SIL. I feel so grown up being a mum on Mother's Day lol smile

larlemucker Fri 08-Mar-13 23:00:38

I know MrsN, I usually dread Mother's Day so this is going to be strange.

I'm cooking roast pork for MIL, then we'll probably play a game of scrabble which I am crap at

Hardly keeping eyes open, made so many mistakes that I have had to go back and check so night all!!

Mother's Day will be a difficult day for me. This year it falls on MIL's birthday, which is a few days after mine. She passed away when I was pregnant with Stitch. We were very close and DH is still devastated. We will be meeting with his family at her house to commemorate her birthday.

I saw my own mum today instead, which was nice, cooked dinner for dm, db and dsd.

Larle I qualified as a secondary science teacher too, although I have diversified since then.

MrsNPattz Sat 09-Mar-13 00:09:35

First feed here.

Yes days like that are lovely in lots of ways, but so hard in others. Hugs Stitch and Larle!

larlemucker Sat 09-Mar-13 02:09:42

Sorry to hear of your loss stitch flowers

First feed here which is a lot earlier than the last few nights. Baby larle woke up screaming, think it was hunger and a dirty nappy.

Walked up the big hill on the way back from breast feeding support group today, legs are aching now!!!

Seems quiet on here, is it too early?!!

stitch what do you do now if you don't mind me asking?

Babybeesmama Sat 09-Mar-13 02:29:47

First feed since 10 here but he's been up inbetween confused! DH convinced me to have another glass of wine with our friends and I have the worst headache now! Note to self - no more than 2!! Yak!
Really hope he sleeps now!

Stitch - sorry to hear about mil thanks xxx

Second feed here.

Not much atm larle. I am a SAHM for the foreseeable future. Before that I worked with special needs children and then in primary schools teaching maths and ks2.

Oh no Amey, the dreaded wine headache! Drink lots of water.

MrsNPattz Sat 09-Mar-13 04:17:11

Second feed here - little man has been talking to himself in his cot for ages as though it's morning time, not a good sign!!

Yak Amey - lots of water!!

It is quiet again, hopefully lots of sleeping babies!

I'm cold tonight, gro egg is still yellow though.

larlemucker Sat 09-Mar-13 05:48:03

MrsN our groegg was yellow the other night but I was freezing! Had to turn radiator back up.

Baby larle always has hands like ice even if his core is warm, any other LOs like that?

Our time STTN seems to have come to an end! It was nice while it lasted!

stitch I'm well jel(!!) that your a SAHM, I'd love to or just do a couple of days a week when I go back but just can't afford it!

Babybeesmama Sat 09-Mar-13 06:07:06

The headache is still here confused and the night has not gone particularly well! I'm hoping this Is not wake up time although I have a feeling once he finishes this bottle he's going to poo!

Think I'm putting DH on full night duty tonight, I need sleep! And all I want for Mother's Day is sleep! X

Smallgreenone Sat 09-Mar-13 07:38:55

Me too amey all I want is sleep! We were up at 5.30 and baby small has now gone back to bed.
Sorry to hear of your loss stitch, very sad.
I'm having my Mother's Day treat today- a massage at the spa. You get wrapped up in some sort of delicious smell and then massaged and then they leave you to...........sleep! Hoorah hoorah so I shall have some sleep even if its not at night!

Babybeesmama Sat 09-Mar-13 10:37:21

Enjoy small! I still have headache! How can I have a hangover when I didn't even feel particularly drunk?

I think we need to get tough with some sleep training sad after being so good at self settling for naps etc baby bee has decided that since having a cold he wants to be held and rocked again, then screams on stealth transfer. All he wants to do at night is co-sleep! I want my bed back! Has anyone seen the recent thread on cc? The OP got flamed but jeez it worked for her pretty quick! X

MrsNPattz Sat 09-Mar-13 11:56:14

Monkey was up for an hour at 4, then we slept until 8:40. He had a chew on my apple earlier, he loved it! So cute smile

Hubby is out tonight so a quiet night here. What chick flicks did you watch Larle? I fancy watching one later.

My friend is coming at lunch time and we are going for a walk, hubby is out late afternoon so the company will be nice.

Smallgreenone Sat 09-Mar-13 13:15:03

Just read it Amey- eek! I don't want to do it but if baby small is no longer feeding at night and no longer hungry and still waking I will do it. I'm currently weaning him off his middle of the night feed but will probably keep the dream feed until he's taking proper meals. So far we're on 5oz bottles at his 2am feed and I reduce an oz every 4 nights, its working ok so far- he used to have 7oz so the missing 2 haven't made him wake any earlier. He then doesn't get fed again until 7- even if he wakes earlier he isn't actually hungry he's just awake and up. He goes to bed at 6.30 so I can't expect him to sleep much past 6 anyway. If I can get him to do 11pm until 6am I will be happy with that for now and he's done it before so I know he can do it!

amey I am with you on the sleep training. The last two nights were so awful I don't have a choice. It's not the crying, but the hurtling round the cot... And if he sleeps with me he kicks me. In his sleep. Saw that thread. Afraid we are going to try something similar - although wont be controlled crying, more like controlled acrobatics hmm

Babybeesmama Sat 09-Mar-13 13:55:09

I think people gave her a lot of abuse bless her, but at the end of the day if you know they are not in pain/hungry but are just tired then how else are you meant to teach them to self settle? Ssh pat worked great for us but now he's older he thrashes around & doesn't want me to hold him on his side. I think a few nights of some cc can't hurt as much as everyone in the household being constantly tired & crabby!

I think we are having a definate super energetic leap today - he's like holding an eel, he will not hold still at all! He's absolutely crazy! If he sits on my knee he throws himself to the side then onto tummy and squirms off exploding anything he can find!

We got our ikea highchair back of SIL yesterday, I got an inflatable insert for it to support him, he loves it & looks really grown up! X

larlemucker Sat 09-Mar-13 14:47:02

I think cc is ok with an older baby, for example baby larle is 10 weeks and I wouldn't dream of doing it with him at the moment. At the same time it's whatever works for you! I have to admit I get really fed up with people telling me how to parent (is that a verb?) eg: baby larle was grissling in the garden centre the other week and an old lady stopped me and started commenting on how he was hungry, no he wasn't he was only half awake and grissling in his sleep.

Sorry for the vent.

MrsN I watched one day and just go with it. One day was really good, would recommend it

funchum8am Sat 09-Mar-13 15:06:58

small sounds like you have exactly the same nights as us. Fine 7-2, bottle then just awake on and off til morning but not hungry sad . Last night was rubbish but we shared it so feeling ok.

cc did teach babyfunch to self settle and she naps and goes to bed beautifully, but self settling ability is no use if they feel rested and want to start the day at 2am!

Smallgreenone Sat 09-Mar-13 18:47:45

He self settles after 2 but then wakes somewhere between 5 and 6 and the nearer 6 it is the less likely he is to go back to sleep sad. some days though he sleeps until nearly 7. That's on a good night- on a bad night he's up every hour. He hasn't poo'd for two days now so expect he will be up tonight with tummy trouble. I'm trying to give him water with his food to make him less constipated but he doesn't drink a lot. He eats lots of fruit and has wholemeal bread for extra fibre, not sure what else I can do. Hv says its normal whilst their bodies get used to solids but I feel so sorry for him when he's struggling. Sorry for yuk poo chat!

MissingMyMarbles Sat 09-Mar-13 18:47:54

I haven't read the other thread, but I do think you have to live with your own decisions and its naff all to do with anyone else how you choose to parent. Everyone has an opinion, which is fine, but why they (strangers especially) feel the need to share uninvited is beyond me! I think cc can work for an older baby too, don't think I can do it though. That said, Missmarbles cried last night quite a lot, but in short bursts and each time I got out of bed she'd stopped. Bit frustrating but I think she was just making a racket in her sleep.

Bed time feed now. Hoping for loooong stretches.......

Smallgreenone Sat 09-Mar-13 18:49:40

larle agree cc for older babies only. All the advice I've had has been for over 6 months but some say 8 months. Basically no one really knows but tiny ones is definitely not good as they need their mums.

EeyoresGloomyPlace Sat 09-Mar-13 19:31:50

I saw the cc thread, it made me a bit frustrated as the OP got a flaming, albeit predictably, but in her post had explained he reasons, methods and even said she was previously quite anti cc. People just never read the OP properly, or they just see a topic they like to rant about and pile in. I don't like the thought of babies being left to cry, but cc is not the same as CIO and there are times when nothing you do is working and you're at the end of your tether. Also, what marbles said, its naff all to do with anyone else!

daddyfunch sorry to hear of your swimming palaver. Had a similar episode when a fantastic friend of mine offered to go hugely out of her way to take dd1 to her swimming lesson just after babylump was born and I wasn't able to go. She took extended lunch break and everything only to get there and be evicted after 5 minutes because someone had done a poo in the pool!

funch your posting confusion gave me a laugh smile I wonder how many couples are on MN.

goat grin at controlled acrobatics!

Hope tomorrow isn't too painful for you all stitch and larle thanks

susie it sounds like exciting times ahead for you! I'd love to change jobs, mine bores the pants off me but I'm scared of so many "what ifs" that I don't know if I ever will. In my head once we've moved and DCs are at school that's my time to start looking at options. Good luck with it, being a teacher sounds hard but very rewarding.

We've got a quiet day planned tomorrow, just DH, me and the DDs which will be nice but strange as I'm used to it being a nice busy day, but as this is MIL's first Mother's Day in Cornwall and my DM is going to visit my sister in rehab we will probably just go to the park and hopefully swimming. After I've had a lie in of course!

Can I have extra helpings of sleepy dust tonight please? Last few nights have been tough.

Night all xx

Susieloo Sat 09-Mar-13 19:52:03

Extra sleepy dust coming your way heff

Agree totally marbles that how you parent is up to you and that's pretty much it really! Re current job I'm going to be ridiculously mysterious - there is a whole policy on commenting on social networking sites and although I have never posted anything controversial or anything that I wouldn't say in real life I've seen too many people disciplined or sacked so I just don't say anything that identifies my role or work at all really!!

We had a very odd night because dp went up to bed before me and managed to lock me in the conservatory where we spend our evenings, he's so used to locking the door because he is normally last out he just did it automatically, I didn't have my phone so was trying to use the talk back function on the baby monitor but still no sign of him so I had to bang on the door for 20 minutes-he eventually came and let me out and as we were going to bed he thought he heard one of our neighbours asking if I was alright so I went round today to apologise and they had got out of bed and come round to check we were ok and managed to get into our garden to see if they could help me escape-but I had just been let out-I was mortified that I woke them up but I honestly thought I was going to be stuck there all night and dp would have turned the hearing off when he went to bed so it would have been freezing!

Hope everyone has good nights-I am back on duty so see you in the small hours.

MrsNPattz Sat 09-Mar-13 20:08:32

Evening all, doing bedtime on my own here. Little man was asleep but decided it was just a nap and woke up half an hour later. So now I'm rocking, watching TV lol he's watching the telly too though - not exactly the idea grin

Larle I have seen one day - did you cry? I sobbed my heart out but I was pregnant at the time! I just watched the first Lightfields I had recorded, but I think I'm going to save the second until it's light and I'm not on my own blush

I bought I Sage accounting course from Groupon today I thought it might help when (not if lol) I'm a WW leader!

Babybeesmama Sat 09-Mar-13 20:38:02

Small - one of my friends babies suffers a bit with constipation - she gives him prune juice - says it works better than the medication gp gave them! Might be worth a try!

I can't even describe our night wakings because they are so frequent & there's no pattern confused. I'm trying infant gaviscon tonight (had some from when DD had reflux, I'm just intrested to see if it helps at all as it seems to me he must wake for a reason. Hopefully it won't cause constipation too badly (but ill try the prune juice too!).

I've felt rough as all day hmm I must be getting old & be a lightweights!

Scattering sleepy dust... Especially heffs way... And upstairs to babybee's cot!!! grin X

I did my own thing with dd1, didn't read any books or take any advice. She was around 14 months old, I don't know if it would work before they are old enough to understand 'lie down and 'bed time' which would be around 9 months old I reckon. Before that I did feed or cuddle to sleep.

This is what I did.

Formed a sleep association by feeding her to sleep whilst playing her musical seahorse and with her cuddling her jellycat bunny. Once she started getting drowsy I would take her off the boob and put her in her cot. I would switch on the seahorse and give her the bunny to cuddle. Then I would sit by the side rubbing her back or holding her hand, not talking and I would close my eyes and pretend to be asleep. If she got up I would say "bed time, lie down" and put her back down as many times as it took. If she played up a lot I would leave the room for a minute then come back and say "if you lie down, mummy will stay". If she lay down I would stay, if not leave and repeat. Eventually she would lie down and go to sleep. Then once she got used to that I then moved incrementally nearer the door every day or so until I was sitting by the door, then outside it.

The first part of our night is always fine, it's from about midnight that things hot up. I think Kid is like babyfunch and thinks that he has had enough sleep at this point thank you very much, and the day should start. Cosleeping no longer works because he is such a Houdini now that no amount of barrier erection works to contain him. So the cot it must be, and persuading him that he needs to sleep until at least 6! I don't intend to leave him any length of time prancing around his cot like Donner and Blitzen, I am always scared that he will do himself damage. But I will settle him there rather than bringing him in with me. Bring on Ewan!
I sense not much sleep happening tonight... hmm

MrsNPattz Sat 09-Mar-13 21:20:59

Yey he's asleep, put him down awake about half an hour ago, put Ewan and the projector on and he is speaking away, then starts whinging and the projector goes off so I go to the loo ready to get him out - and he falls asleep!!

funchum8am Sat 09-Mar-13 21:58:45

Oh well at least we have all made friends with each other out of our know how the veterans of the wars help each other out...well we are the sane (on a far lesser scale of suffering, I am not trying to minimise the horror of the trenches here, just invoke the spirit of mutual support after difficult experiences.)

goat we noticed a particularly screamy note to babyfunch's crying last night so went in immediately and she had flipped onto her front for the first time but couldn't roll back. I wonder if this is the start of acrobatics here...sad totally feeling for you and everyone else with bad nights sad sad

heff I had a friend in Barney put on fb today that she has lost her voice but her DH was having to work so was alone with a very very vocal active 4 yr old and her 18mo so I headed over with babyfunch in the spirit of your rescue of me that time a while back...still paying it forward. But reminded me that iou a babysit so you just let me know when I can help!

funchum8am Sat 09-Mar-13 21:59:09

doh Barnet not Barney....

Susieloo Sat 09-Mar-13 22:19:55

Up every hour for a cuddle so far, also just flipped on to his tummy and got stuck - dp has had him for three nights and he's woken once at 11 and that's it then I get hourly wakings!!

MissingMyMarbles Sat 09-Mar-13 22:32:19

Missmarbles his currently on her tummy too. I've been up every half an hour to check on her. Will flip her back to her back when I go to bed., because I am a scaredy cat, and obviously after I feed her.

MrsNPattz Sat 09-Mar-13 23:58:47

First feed here - the sleeping didn't last long!

So far not too bad! First feed at 1 which hasn't happened so late for weeks. Is however now rotating rapidly and enthusiastically. Perfectly happy though!
Hooray to all the babies learning to roll over, despite the added angst for us!
funch you wrote that we are the sane... Not sure about that!! grin And I had such lovely images of your friend with a pur

Sorry damn phone... Purple dinosaur that was!

Ps susie Glad you aren't still in your conservatory banging away on the door! (Maybe bb would have noticed your absence though? smile )

And heff here's hoping you are slumbering blissfully...

larlemucker Sun 10-Mar-13 04:23:47

First feed here, Dh gave Ds bottle of expressed milk so I could sleep but it wasn't enough and baby larle wouldn't sleep so I'm up anyway hmm

Can hardly keep eyes open so sorry for no name checking

Second time up!!! shock he never does what I expect. This time that's a good thing... smile

Not much going on here - hope everyone is sleeping peacefully.

larlemucker Sun 10-Mar-13 06:17:50

Up for 2 hours with last feed, baby larle slept for 45mins and now awake again.

Happy Mother's Day hmmhmm

MrsNPattz Sun 10-Mar-13 06:18:01

Second feed here and hopefully not up time!

Happy Mother's Day all, thoughts are with those who have lost thanks xx

MissingMyMarbles Sun 10-Mar-13 06:30:27

What a night!!!!!
Fed as we went to bed, then at 3ish then just now, and have put her back down in the hope of another hour. No transfer fails. Self-settling. All because, I firmly believe, she can lie on her tummy if she wants, and did grin I feel like a different person; not least because I feel less stressed about work, feeling cautiously confident that there will be further improvement before then was probably a fluke, and I'll be bailing my eyes out at 2 o' clock tomorrow morning

Glad to read of some other improved nights too. Hope the quietness is also a positive sign.

Happy Mothers' Day thanks

BrainGoneAwol Sun 10-Mar-13 06:32:19

Been off internet due to awful nights and have just spent an hour catching up. Apologies for lack of name checking... Hugs for those of you missing dm/mil today. My dad died 3 years ago and it's weird when you start feeling like the oldest generation in your family. I'll be devastated when it's dms turn...

Lots of teachers in here. Does that mean you have perfectly behaved dcs? grin

Strangely, next door had a party til 2.30am and we've had the best night for ages. Third wake here since 6pm though one was from 9.30-11.15 Babybrain has a busy day of out with dp for a run at 8, swimming and then lunch out with a friend. Maybe I'm too boring for him normally?!

Going to attempt trf in the hope of more sleep. Got pil and bil over for a big roast lunch so busy day today.

Oh should add that things are a bit better. Dp is now doing the first settle up to 11pm and taking babybrain if he wakes after 6.30 & before dp leaves for work which he always does...often at 5.30am these days...

Must get back to bed

Babybeesmama Sun 10-Mar-13 09:47:03

Happy Mother's Day yummy mummy's!

We had a better night, I'm wondering if it was the gaviscon... He did 7-11 then DD woke him at 1 but he resettled with me till 5 then up at 6 (I was in with DD by then who wet the bed confused!).

Had a lovely pandora charm for Mother's Day from my cheeky monkeys! What did everyone get? Xx

BrainGoneAwol Sun 10-Mar-13 10:04:47

Oh and welcome daddyfunch

I got another couple of hours til 9.15 which is the best present possible just now!
Dp arrived with babybrain clutching eating a card for me and looking very cute and he did then demolish the envelope with sucking grin

MrsNPattz Sun 10-Mar-13 10:21:01

Ouch, for Mother's Day I got a blood blister on my nipple blush

daddyfunch Sun 10-Mar-13 10:49:57

Susie so glad you got out of the conservatory, that must have been scary!

Thinking of those of you who have lost mums and MILs today. I am being spoiled -lie in and breakfast in bed smile. Very glad I did all my marking during nap time yesterday so am not tempted to use the off duty time to do it now!

LOL at teachers having perfectly behaved first thought when a pupil persistently plays up is to call their parents and get their help! DH has had a parent ask him to tell their child to behave at home and to threaten to come round or similar if they don't though shock

I got a lovely Pandora charm too larle!

Happy Mother's Day everyone.

daddyfunch Sun 10-Mar-13 10:50:30

Sorry amey it is you with the charm, apologies!

daddyfunch Sun 10-Mar-13 10:50:58

Doh ps once again this is funch logged in as daddyfunch...

larlemucker Sun 10-Mar-13 10:53:02

Happy Mother's Day everyone!

Baby larle was up again at 6.30, I fell asleep sat up feeding!! When I woke at 8 we had a snuggle and both fell asleep again till 9!!

I got a massive box of chocolates from the Belgian chocolate shop in the village and a card saying baby larle will cool me breakfast in bed when he can reach the cooker, got a while to wait then!!!

Hope you all have good days, thinking of others who have lost DM or MIL

Babybeesmama Sun 10-Mar-13 12:45:22

Oww mrsn! Do you think that's to do with teething? confused

MrsNPattz Sun 10-Mar-13 13:55:11

I think possibly Amey, he chewed it and it hurt a few days ago and since then it's been uncomfortable to feed from and then I noticed that this morning. My left was sore a while back and it got better itself so hopefully this is the same! Dread feeding from that side though confused

I did get other things though lol a first mummy's day card, a mum teddy and little plant, and some Tulisa toiletries - they smell delicious! Just had lunch at Frankie and Benny's where I got a little box of chocs, a card and a badge which was nice! Now off to SILs!

We woke up to lots of snow - where did that come from??

MrsNPattz Sun 10-Mar-13 17:25:53

Can I ask, when do people know to feed their little ones during the night? As soon as little man has woken me up, I get up and feed him and he usually goes back to sleep while being fed. He never cries, he's either whinging or talking. SIL said to me today 'oh you should just leave him to go back to sleep'. Another piece of advice I didn't want or need, but has now made me feel like I'm doing something wrong yet again.

And I got called a spoil sport for not having a cupcake by MIL - I always come away from seeing them feeling pissed off about something!!

MissingMyMarbles Sun 10-Mar-13 18:30:41

Well done for resisting the cupcake, MrsN! You will be glad you did at WW and ignore your MiL. First weigh day (at home) for me tomorrow; had a sneak preview and have been really good so hoping for great things.

Glad you got out of the conservatory, Susie!

I got breakfast in bed, a homemade card and tissue flowers and two cards. I got a pandora bracelet for Christmas; a charm would be lovely but it didn't even cross my mind, never mind DH's the children's grin

My optimism may have been premature this morning hmm Gad a very grizzly day. Not crying so much as just incessant yelling! She's really frustrated at not crawling despite being pretty mobile. Plus, Sundays are a bit if a nightmare and her first nap ended up being 12.45 to 1.45 instead of 10.30, so she hasn't had an afternoon nap and is now in bed and asleep already, having only drained one side --the other side leaked all over my clean jarmies--angry Hope she, and all her wee friends, sleep well.
Catch you later no doubt, although I am but great at overnight posting, I do try to read.

larlemucker Sun 10-Mar-13 19:37:08

MrsN I feed with every night waking too. I used to get him up as soon as he started fidgeting so he wouldn't cry but realised most of the time I was waking him up!! Now I only get him up if he is awake.
Ignore your SIL, it's your baby and you what you think is right

Babybeesmama Sun 10-Mar-13 20:15:37

Bless you mrsn - I think you & little man are doing amazing! He sleeps brilliantly! Just ignore SIL, if she says anything again just quote her some bf fact that babies often need feeding in night longer! Like others said you know your baby best! I could be bothered fannying about getting them back to sleep if feeding them did it quickly! If he's taking a decent feed In night I'm sure he needs it still! Oh and mil was prob jealous of your willpower at resisting cupcake I am!! Xxx

Babybeesmama Sun 10-Mar-13 20:16:37

'Couldnt' even!! X

MrsNPattz Sun 10-Mar-13 20:36:01

Aw thank you guys, I feel better now! Yea he always takes a good feed before falling asleep so I know it's what he needs. She just makes me doubt myself sometimes. Thank you. Amey they were huge ones from Costco - hubby is eating one now. I sniffed it blush haha

larlemucker Sun 10-Mar-13 21:12:32

MrsN you know if you break it in half first then some of the calories fall out!!

Susieloo Mon 11-Mar-13 00:39:57

2nd feed of the night and I'm totally and utterly pissed off that this is the 4th or 5th time he has been up since bed time, I go back to work in about five weeks and I just can't imagine doing it if I'm still going to be getting up this much, bb is 8 months old today and I thought this would have all stopped by now, I can't even consider cc because I know he will just become hysterical and hot.

Rant over and breathe.......

BrainGoneAwol Mon 11-Mar-13 00:58:07

Poor you susie, any chance he's teething? That sounds like too many for there not to be some sort of reason sad Hope sleep improves.

mrsn well done on resisting the cupcake. I have no willpower with food so have never tried ww or similar. I try to lose it through lots of walking, though I think I need to do something more drastic to get rid of my tummy...

Agree with the comments about sil. You know your baby. If I 'just left' babybrain, he'd just go from grizzling to screaming the house down! Trust your instincts smile

<whispers> I think I got dp to agree to take some time off to help with some night weaning. Don't let on <shhhh>

MrsNPattz Mon 11-Mar-13 02:35:36

First feed here, later than the last few nights which is good.

Thanks for your support, I woke up wishing I was strong enough to stand up for myself, but that's just not me.

Lol Larle - I have an image of a cupcake with stuff falling out, but I'm not sure what a calorie looks like grin

Susie, sending hugs - that's all I can do. This will pass, even if it doesn't seem it right now. Stay strong! You are a great mum.

Babybeesmama Mon 11-Mar-13 03:19:33

First feed since 11pm feed here but he woke at 1 and has co slept since then but has been wriggling about and kept me awake. He's going in the cot after this - I've decided!

DH is snoring... Again! angry

Susie - know how you feel! Its so hard when they wake frequently but you don't know why. It will pass.... Its just a phase!

Jayne266 Mon 11-Mar-13 03:26:10

I am not even getting woken up for feeds my DS goes to bed at 7pm (7months old) and always wakes up way too early (4am) and the last 2 weeks he has been up every 2 hours.

Am so fed up and tired I have been ill with a cold for over a week, which I normally get rid of in a few days. I feel so run down but my DH does his share. I don't really know what to do. Am up in 2.5hrs for a 12hr shift.

mama04 Mon 11-Mar-13 04:00:27

Dd is sleeping great for once & I can't shut my eyes confused typical! X

BrainGoneAwol Mon 11-Mar-13 04:11:57

Hi jayne welcome - I don't think I've seen you here before but I've not been on much recently. Sorry you're having bad nights. Can I ask what it is your ds is doing? - ie if not feeding does he just want cuddles etc? Have you gone back to work recently?

I have heard (read?) that some babies try to make up the lost contact during the night. Perhaps it's that? Making lots of assumptions there...
As said above, it will pass. Hang in there.

We're on second feed here. Second night in a row of slightly less waking. Trying not to get my hopes up...

amey snoring is so hard! I'm constantly amazed that more violence doesn't happen as a result of snoring.

MrsNPattz Mon 11-Mar-13 06:56:43

Second feed here, probably up time but it would be nice if it wasn't!

Welcome Jayne and Mama!

BrainGoneAwol Mon 11-Mar-13 07:56:38

Welcome mama, hope the insomnia is short lived. smile

Up time for me. Poor babybrain is teething really badly. He wakes himself moaning in his sleep and rubbing his ears. All with his eyes shut as he really wants to be sleeping. sad

Hope you all have good days

larlemucker Mon 11-Mar-13 09:30:46

Welcome mama and jayne, sorry you've had to join us!!

Not too bad a night here but I struggled to fed as the night before last I fell asleep while feeding, sat up with my head on the top of the headboard (baby larle was perfectly safe BTW!!!) but it's really hurt my neck and shoulder. I'm in bloody agonyhmm

On the bright side I'm getting better at expressing, been getting 3.5oz off one side (sorry if TMI but really proud of myself --my boobs--)

Loads of snow here, what's it like where you lot are?

brain sorry to hear about baby brain, have you tried teething granules or anbesol? Poor thing, must be so painful.

BrainGoneAwol Mon 11-Mar-13 09:49:36

No snow here thankfully ba humbug but bitterly cold. Definitely hats and gloves for local mum coffee this morning.

larle thanks for the tip. A friend recently suggested anbesol and it's much better than the gels partly because babybrain can't eat it before I have a chance to smear it in his gums Bless him, he had a really nasty bleeding nappy rash as well this morning which I think is also from teeth. They have such a hard time of it! sad

larlemucker Mon 11-Mar-13 11:31:36

From personal experience anbesol liquid is fab. I had really bad wisdom tooth infections (many years ago) and rubbed it in 24/7. It really numbs the gum and stops the pain.
Hope it helps baby brain and means you get more sleep!!!

MissingMyMarbles Mon 11-Mar-13 13:54:23

Hang on there, Susie. If you weren't back and work, would it still be bothering you as much? I don't mean that to sound patronising, it's just that I was panicking too, because of work, and I wouldn't have if it wasn't for that. It is coming right. We are by no means there yet, but nights have dramatically improved since she worked out she can get in a comfy position on her own and has pretty much self-settled the last few nights. Each stretch is getting slightly longer. You are doing great.

Hi Mama and Jayne!

Ok can't remember what else I read blush Will have to check through again later.

MissingMyMarbles Mon 11-Mar-13 15:14:01

Oh Crikey! I just re-read that when checking in again! Should be hang IN there!! It sounds even more patronising than I feared. Sorry Susieblush just trying to be encouraginggrin

Have lost half a stone this weekgrin woop woop! First week of SW is always a good'un. Don't expect to have such big losses from now but glad to see resultsgrin

MrsNPattz Mon 11-Mar-13 15:31:49

Wow Marbles that's fantastic!! Well done you smile bet that has spurred you on!

Little man now has two teeth coming through on the bottom, just given him Calpol and Calpol teething gel. We are off to view his photos later, I wonder how much we hubby will end up spending!!

We still have snow from yesterday but it's really sunny today so it's going. Went for a walk earlier and it's cold in the wind, but otherwise a lovely day.

Susieloo Mon 11-Mar-13 17:42:20

Last feed before bed-it's like a disaster movie round here with the arctic wind picking up snow flurries and swirling them round,

Totally got what you meant marbles-it is mainly the work issue bothering me I think-I go back on the 15th April and starting to feel quite desperate about it, the sleep is one issue but I'm also not sure how I'm going to handle going from being with him all the time to leaving him at 8.30 and then getting home when he is basically ready for bed, the reality is starting to kick in and it's making me feel really anxious, that combined with frustration at last nights wake ups just really got to me.

I'm heading straight for bath and bed after bb asleep.

On a brighter note my mum and dad have offered to have bb for the night on Sunday so me and dp can finally get round to drinking the champagne we were given when he was born-we've saved it for the first night we have to really enjoy it - bb completely adores my mum so I'll be able to relax hopefully and get a film nights sleep!!

Have good nights everyone.

MissingMyMarbles Mon 11-Mar-13 18:56:08

Just doing bedtime feed.

We're having the arctic winds and horizontal snow flurries too. DH us off thi evening so we are all in pj's and the doors are lockedsmile

Sleepy Mice to all

Babybeesmama Mon 11-Mar-13 19:06:34

Well done marbles! Susie - envy of your champers! Enjoy! And can't believe you got locked in conservatoryblush!

Bedtime feed here & babybee has had a good day food & milk wise, remains to be seen whether it will make a difference sleep wise! Hope so sad!

DH on call this week and looks like he's already got work to do tonight angry! Grr! Hate him being on call.

I'm going to try to be strong and not co sleep tonight, I cricked my neck staying in same position from 3-5am! I feel tired already so I'm sure I will cave in but my intention is there. Its weird because he has self settled for x3 naps today without crying so I can't understand why at night its so different. Anyway, sleepy dust all! Xx

BrainGoneAwol Mon 11-Mar-13 19:10:11

Oh mrsn I meant to say, if you want any help with sage though it's about 10 yrs ago that I used it or other accounting things let me know and I'll give you a hand if I can. I am qualified though it would have to be with a disclaimer of being unofficial advice smile

Hello mama and jayne !
susie I am in exactly the same situation re going back to work - 15 April and will get home right on bedtime. Really really stressed about sleep patterns, but last two nights have been better so fingers crossed. Will really really miss baby goat though... Never thought I would think like that!
No snow here either but that's some wind!

Jayne266 Mon 11-Mar-13 20:36:45

Hi braingoneawol Thanx for answering me. He goes to sleep ok at 7ish after a bottle, bath and book. Then gets into a lighter sleep about 9ish and when you put his dummy back in he goes back a sleep and this happens all night until 4am ish he's up and wants to get up.
It can happen once or twice but lately it's been about 5/6 times. I have just gone back to work but he started doing this before this and he got a cold at the same time.

Anyone had this problem?

Smallgreenone Mon 11-Mar-13 20:38:42

Hi all, we have snow here too, bloody freezing. Baby small was good last night so hoping for another good night. Took him into dh's office today and he charmed the pants off everyone grin dh has his own business and only 5 employees so not that many to charm but still!
Enjoy your bubbles susie. Don't know about anyone else but I seem incapable of drinking more than one glass of wine these days before passing out! I've never been a big drinker but since being pregnant my body just can't seem to cope.

MrsNPattz Mon 11-Mar-13 20:53:04

Brain thank you so much smilethanks

Susie I can totally understand the being anxious about leaving him - I already feel like that and I don't go back until September blush we are all here for support! Keep talking.

Little man is fast asleep and I won't be far behind him! Just bought Reading Festival tickets - I'm a huge Eminem fan so cannot wait!!

ChilliBanana Mon 11-Mar-13 21:08:44

Hi all, surfacing briefly from the sleep deprived fugue that is my life since going back to work last week grin Baby chilli has gone from a lovely week of four hourly feeds at night straight back into two/one/half hourly feeds. I think it's comfort as he's gone from being with me 24 hours a day to being with other people for 10 hours at a time. I was also having a major panic about all this but while I'm certainly not saying it's a walk in the park, it's not as bad as I thought. Surprisingly, I cope at work far better than I cope at home. (poor DH)
goat and marbles I think I'm the opposite way round to you as I get home around 5.30 but have to get myself and Baby chilli up, dressed, washed, fed and out the door by 7am, which has been a rude shock, but we're managing just so far.
Sorry not to do a better name check, I have been keeping up with the thread while expressing at lunchtime (waves to funch) (although the room I was in today was so cold it is a wonder it didn't come out in ice cubes smile ) Welcome to newcomers, congrats to people now thinner, and sleepy dust to all non sleepers.
It is now past my bedtime so I will be hitting the pillows after a non dairy, non soy Mexican hot chocolate (oh how I miss chocolate!!)

ChilliBanana Mon 11-Mar-13 21:10:52

Oh and for those anxious about leaving their little ones - I hate leaving baby chilli but it's so lovely to come home to him all excited and squealy to see me (followed swiftly by crying for a feed...) so it kind of balances out.

EeyoresGloomyPlace Mon 11-Mar-13 22:07:26

Crickey so much to catch up on!

Welcome jayne and mama

susie enjoy your fizz and grin at your unfortunately conservatory episode, glad you got released before the heating went off!

mrsn another qualified accountant here, if you can take the risk of getting advice from someone as sleep deprived as I currently am then I'm also happy to help in any way I can.

Well done to everyone losing weight, you're all doing so well! I've been rubbish the last week or so since babylump started this latest phase of 2 hourly wakings but hoping to get back on track soon, maybe once its warmed up as the weather isn't really making me fancy a salad at the moment.

Just about to transfer after first waking, she's suddenly started waking at this time every night which is random and really annoying. <chants it's just a phase it's just a phase>

<waves> to everyone, i have mini choc brownie bites for the non slimmers and raspberry sorbet for those with better willpower than me smile

Night night xx

larlemucker Mon 11-Mar-13 23:35:39

Bed time in the larle household! Well it would be if baby larle had successfully transferred (however DH is snoring next to me so it's bed time for someone!)
heff as I start WW tomorrow I'll have some choc brownie bites please!!

Funny MrsN but I was surprised when I read you are an eminem fan, silly but just not how I imagined you!!

Hope you've enjoyed the fizz susie sorry but I had to laugh a little at you being locked out but only after I read that you got let back in and your neighbours had come to the rescue, what lovely neighbours.

I'm not back to work till sep and already dreading it, wish I could afford to be a SAHM!

Fingers crossed for a goods nights sleep tonight, <waving to all those not name checked>

Sweet dreams
Larle x

Smallgreenone Tue 12-Mar-13 00:45:02

Not sure what's up with baby small, he doesn't normally wake at this hour but has been really screaming. No shushing works and pupd resulted in a super angry little man so I am now sat with him asleep on my shoulder. Oh dear! No idea how I will get him back iris cot. May have to wait until feed time and then try so that's an hour in this chair!
I'm back in sep too and dreading it. My only way out is to have another so childcare becomes too expensive but I ant face another at the moment!
Spreading sleepy dust

mama04 Tue 12-Mar-13 01:01:03

This thread makes me giggle grin I actually just chortled out loud and startled the little bundle snoring on my shoulder, then I rolled Dh off and got back to reading Mn wink
Both babies have been up on the hour so it's gonna be a long one blush x

mama04 Tue 12-Mar-13 01:14:23

Brain I know this might sound a bit strange but when any of mine have had the little bleedy bits on their bums my old granny (96) has always slapped egg whites on it! blush Has worked on all of them so far! It seems to seal the skin and really let it heal, let me know if u try it! grin X

And how jealous am I about bubbly and a night off! wine Have some thanks and a wonderful evening x

Sweet dreams mummies x

Babybeesmama Tue 12-Mar-13 01:29:25

Welcome mama grin!

Well, I'm being strong so far. He's woken at his usual now regular time of 1am!! So thought I'd try a bottle as co sleeping normally only thing that works & he's necking entire thing (only 2 hours since last feed)!!!

So, who knows whether it will make a difference...

He just spluttered on his bottle & my iPhone is now covered in dots of milk! confused X

Babybeesmama Tue 12-Mar-13 01:37:56

Small - hope he settles for you soon! Maybe sneak some calpol in him before feed? Probably teeth.

Mrsn & anyone else with teething babies forgot to say I got some bickie pegs the other day, had to order from amazon but they were great for DD x

MrsNPattz Tue 12-Mar-13 02:29:36

First feed here, he woke up in pain, I think, poor little man sad

Lol Larle, I don't think I'm your typical Eminem fan but I have loved him since I was 14. However, we aren't going to Reading now hmm I stupidly dived in head first without realising how far Reading is from Chester. So now have to sell the tickets. If I get them sold we may go to Leeds festival instead.

Thank you Heff, sorry you are still having rubbish nights!

BrainGoneAwol Tue 12-Mar-13 02:50:19

Third feed here. I'm trying to reduce babybrain's night feeds by only offering when he asks insistently, but he's been so upset with his teeth that some sucking is the only thing that settles him sad

amey my phone is a horrible smeary mess these days from sticky little fingers or spraying milk - an entertainment of babybrain's is to start my let down and then pull off and grin while I soak everything in a 2 foot radius little monster cheeky angel.

mama I read that somewhere and thought it a bit random. Will try it for educational purposes if sudocrem hasn't worked.

jayne hopefully it's just a phase...

Smallgreenone Tue 12-Mar-13 02:58:30

He settled! I decided in the end that I wasn't going to sit there for an hour so put him down and left. He cried for 6 mins. Then woke 15 mins ago so I went in with a bottle but it must have been a sleep cry as he was still asleep. confused. Have sort of dream fed him now and put heating on as egg was blue and hopefully that's us until morning now. He doesn't ever cry for long and he was so hysterical when I was there patting that I think it's better if I do actually leave him but I always feel so cruel doing it.
Stay strong amey!
brain has baby brain got a little anal fissure? Baby small had one and it just healed itself. I thought it would be really painful but it never seemed to bother him.
Night all.

BrainGoneAwol Tue 12-Mar-13 03:20:15

Fail. Trying to get babybrain more deeply asleep this time.

small he's got a couple of places where there are little spots of blood oozing through that sounds worse than it is! He suddenly got bad nappy rash which I think is teething related sad

Pondering trf attempt. hmm

larlemucker Tue 12-Mar-13 03:23:26

Well we're up again after transfer fail, I have a banging headache and my neck is still killing me from the way i slept the other night hmm

I have the vicar coming round this eve to discuss baby larles christening and then my first WW meeting so could really do with some sleep. My house could also do with a clean!! Maybe I should do it now as I'm wide awake!!

MissingMyMarbles Tue 12-Mar-13 04:05:48


larlemucker Tue 12-Mar-13 04:12:01

I've had 2 and a half hours sleep tonight, urgh.
Baby larle has just done massive poonami, who poos at this time in the morning?!!!

Susieloo Tue 12-Mar-13 04:51:11

Welcome mama smile

We are up for second feed of the night and could do with another two hours ideally.

EeyoresGloomyPlace Tue 12-Mar-13 05:12:09

Without wanting to jinx it things have finally started to improve tonight, feeds at 10pm, 1am and now so at least in between I've had some better chunks of sleep at last smile

Oh mrsn such a shame about Reading, hope you can sell the tickets. I'd love to go, its only 30 minutes from me too, but its not going to happen this year at least sad

I made the mistake of reading the thread about old tv adverts, now I can't stop singing the Um Bongo song confused

BrainGoneAwol Tue 12-Mar-13 05:26:10

Up again. Very sleepy. Think I was mid-cycle. Might post again if eyes stay open long enough

larlemucker Tue 12-Mar-13 06:02:56

Been asleep for 2mins, what's going on! Last week he was sleeping through? Is there a growth spurt at 10 weeks?

Babybeesmama Tue 12-Mar-13 07:09:12

Well DH and me decided that after 4am I would co sleep if he woke as we were both knackered, will push that forward each night so 5am tonight! He did 7-11 in cot then 11-1 then 1-4 from 4-7 with me. Small - did baby small gradually wake less the more you kept him in cot? I still feel knackered as took till 2 I think to settle him after 1am feed. Feel more positive tho! grin X

MrsNPattz Tue 12-Mar-13 07:12:12

Second feed here, and up time as my alarm is set for 8 anyway for WW.

Amey what are Bickie pegs?

Sounds like there were some rubbish nights! Hope you can all nap today.

Good luck with your first WW meeting Larle!

Babybeesmama Tue 12-Mar-13 07:22:35

Mrsn they are proper old school, they are like a very hard biscuit on a ribbon & you let them bite on it for 20 mins at a time, it tastes nice but doesn't really dissolve! I got mine off amazon as couldn't find them in ships but bigger boots usually sell them! X

MissingMyMarbles Tue 12-Mar-13 07:39:03

Been up since 6.40. Unusually early for us, but so snuffly she can't feed and breathe at the same time sad have kept her upright and she's played with DD1 and is feeding a bit better now. Looking like hung back to sleep. Pity as it really is up time and we need to crack on.

Brain and Mama, I've heard that about the egg white too, and if you beat some air in it, it's even better (grin at though of putting meringue in babies' bottomsgrin).

My house needs a good mucking out too, Larle. It isn't going to get one if those anytime soon either. It's all u can do to keep it semi-respectable!

Sorry for horrible nights - Babygoat continues his run of good nights. Other than thinking that 4:45 was up time. hmm however he eventually went back to sleep and woke at 6:30, so got another hour. And when I go back to work, will have to be up at 6 anyway to get us both out of the house in time.

Tidying the house? We are still semi living out of boxes from moving in here in July last year!

larlemucker Tue 12-Mar-13 08:51:14

Thank god for DH, baby larle woke up again at 7am and wasn't hungry so DH took him downstairs so I had an extra hour in bed. Think DS is coming down with a cold which could explain last night, he is now asleep on my lap and I need to get dressed but daren't move!

Have you seen the news? Thought I had had a bad night, I may have been awake but at least I was tucked up in bed and not stranded in my car for 12 hours!!

MrsNPattz Tue 12-Mar-13 08:53:34

Cool thanks Amey!

Smallgreenone Tue 12-Mar-13 09:24:21

Oh poor baby brain, hope his bum gets better soon! Baby small was never oozing blood.
amey it took about 3 nights with baby small but I totally went cold turkey on him and did not co sleep. Those three nights were hard work but now he is in his cot all night so was worth it for us. We did a sort of cc with him, it wasn't too bad because we knew he could self settle because he does at bedtime. So he was fed as normal and then popped in cot with one of us checking on him every 5 mins until he was asleep- it only took 20mins max but I still felt guilty.
So cold here today but at least the sun is shining. We are off swimming later if baby small cheers up, I've calpol'd him this morning as he's been grumpy which is not like him, must be teeth- my answer to everything!!

Hello everyone hope all are well. Will pop back on later to catch up fully, Stitch is sleeping on my arm and I can't do long typing.

Brain my SIL is a paediatric nurse, they use Metatanium for nappy rash and if that doesn't work Orabase (Used for open sores like leg ulcers to give the skin a chance to heal).

EeyoresGloomyPlace Tue 12-Mar-13 10:03:13

I second Metanium advice, whenever dd1 got a rash that stuff cleared it up really quickly.

Also second Bickie pegs, really good for keeping them occupied and happy, but they do get really gross and slimy even though they don't actually break up. They give you a packet of ten but only a couple of strings to hold them with, not sure who on earth thought that was a good idea.

We were up at half 6 today, she's gone back down for a nap now so I've done a quick tidy shoved all the mess behind the sofa before my nct friends come over for coffee. My house is a tip, doesn't help that there's a lot of us living here and it's quite an old house so laid out quite inconveniently, I'm planning to start both DDs with my childminder a week earlier than I actually go back to work so I can do a proper blitz.

Hope baby brain has a happy bottom soon. I heard something about the egg white creates a second skin or film over the top...not tried it but my DM told me once.

MrsNPattz Tue 12-Mar-13 11:37:30

I lost 2lb and got my stone yippee smile I told my leader that I want to apply so her manager is going to phone me blush nervous now lol

larlemucker Tue 12-Mar-13 11:51:36

Well done MrsN that's fantastic! I've got at least 3 stone to lose (not all baby weight) how long do you think that will take?

funchum8am Tue 12-Mar-13 17:24:45

Hi everyone, I have been missing you! I am no longer expressing at lunch as my supply has died down a bit. I could get it up again but it is just a bit too much for me to fit into my day so I am down to two bfs, morning and evening, and more at weekends. Bit of a shame after all my dreams of exclusively bfing til six months but I now realise that was just a pipe dream with going back to work. Respect to anyone who manages to stash up and express at work enough for that!

DH went out with babyfunch to Ikea and got her high chair today...she is growing up fast! We will get her used to sitting in it over the next couple of weeks and then start weaning in the Easter holidays when we are both here to enjoy it clear up the carnage

Mrsn that is AMAZING weight loss, well done! Good luck larle with your ww. I need to start, I have signed up online then done nothing beyond that!

Marbles I am so heartened by your improved sleep. Babyfunch is still at the stage where she sometimes rolls onto her front but can't get off so starts screaming, but she will soon be able to get comfy herself. I hope she improves then.

Welcome Jayne and mama!

Jayne we have great sleep from 7pm til 2:30 bottle, then she thinks it is up time, so not so different from you confused. Much sympathy.

Goat very envy of your good sleep but I cannot think of anyone who deserves it more! Good work Kid!

mama04 Tue 12-Mar-13 18:23:57

I'm doing online ww to! There is a brilliant thread on Mn, just a bunch of us tummy mummies trying to get yummy mummy grin don't know how to post the link on my bloody iphone confused it's called 2013 weight watchers thread #2
I lost 6lb this week with lots of support and encouragement from the girls on this thread!smile
I'm heading to bed at 7 tonight to try and catch up with some much needed sleep but both babies have slept most of the afternoon confused here goes again! X

MrsNPattz Tue 12-Mar-13 18:54:40

Thanks guys! Larle it has taken me 2 months to lose a stone, so if you stuck to it I reckon you could shift that in 6 months! Made a lovely chicken and gnocchi stew for tea!

Mama that's brilliant well done!

Water babies was good today, it was photo week so hubby could come and take pictures at the side of the pool smile little man was a bit better this week too, still cried getting changed but wasn't so grumpy in the pool.

Funch you have done a fantastic job - be proud!

Babybeesmama Tue 12-Mar-13 19:16:37

Well done mrsn! That's fantastic! How much more are you wanting to lose? I'm back on it as of yesterday apart from had a Mexican chicken baguette today - not sure how many pro points! Making butternut squash risotto tonight grin! I'm not sure if I'm going to find it easier to use my 49 weeklies spread out so I have more points each day as I find sticking to 28 tough.

Baby bee stayed with MIL for a couple of hours today whilst I went shopping, when I got back he had been crying for an hour sad wish she had text or rung as I could've come back was only 10 mins away! confused Hope he's going to be ok when he goes to nursery! X

BrainGoneAwol Tue 12-Mar-13 19:25:20

Thanks for the tip stitch and heff. I can't tell if his bottom is bothering him as he bounces up and down while sitting normally and is grizzly from his teeth, but it looks really painful. He's only had the tiniest bit of rash before which sudocrem fixed in an afternoon. This time it's done nothing at all, so I think some more drastic action is needed.

mrsn that's amazing! Well done... You're actually making me consider doing something and I've never tried proper ww or anything.

funch hope work is going ok. Bf morning and evening is still pretty darn good!

Going to try trf after a very long bedtime settle. Trying to save the calpol for when I know it'll be needed in the middle of the night!

larlemucker Tue 12-Mar-13 20:57:03

Well first WW meeting went well, I weight a pound less than I thought nothing to do with the mammoth feed before going

So you think I can lose half a stone a month MrsN? That's good, just booked baby larles christening for mid June so should be at least a stone lighter by then!

Sorry to hear baby brains bum is still bad, it may look nasty but at least it's not bothering him too much.

funch when you were expressing where were you storing the milk? I go back for a week in July and was planning on stopping before then but I'm really enjoying it so thinking of expressing that week and stopping just before I go back in sep.

Those of you breast feeding and doing WW, do you use the extra 14 points a day? It seems like a hell of a lot!! Mama might have to join that thread, going with a friend but any support would help!!

Right as its pig out night tonight I'm going to go and eat my homemade apple crumble and custard!!!

Wow mrsn I so take my hat off to you!

Thank you for your kind words, funch . grin And you have done such a great job on the bf, real dedication.

brain hope babybrain's bottom is improving. I too can attest to the wonders of Metanium - Kid was prescribed it in NNU and it was great.

Right. We were out late tonight, so we shall see what impact this has on Kid's new resolution!

MrsNPattz Tue 12-Mar-13 21:16:53

Thanks Goat and Amey, I set my target today - it's my 10% and it's only 2lb away smile aw Brain I'm glad I have inspired someone grin Larle yes I'd say so, you may get a big loss your first week too! I eat all my BF points and my 49 weekly points and I'm still hungry!! Dreading it when little man starts dropping feeds and I have to drop points lol I have just ordered some 'zero noodles' after reading about them on the WW forums - 0 point noodles apparently!

larlemucker Tue 12-Mar-13 23:09:28

Please god can we have a better night than last night I want to go shopping tomorrow and spend my vouchers

larlemucker Wed 13-Mar-13 02:53:50

Wow quiet on here! We're up for 2nd feed. Not sure if I woke him as I woke up and wanted to check he was ok! Whoops!!

MrsNPattz Wed 13-Mar-13 03:06:58

Wow so quiet! First feed here.

BrainGoneAwol Wed 13-Mar-13 04:06:16

Sadly not quiet I n the babybrain household, just a slightly comatose mummy. 4th wake so far since 6.30pm original bedtime. sad Teeth again. Poor little boy. His little ears are getting a right battering from all the pulling he's doing.

Hope better nights for others

Susieloo Wed 13-Mar-13 04:15:04

2nd feed-not sure 8 month old babies are meant to wake for this much milk in the night, particularly frustrating because I know he can sleep through.

larlemucker Wed 13-Mar-13 04:41:31

Up again an hour after transfer, so knackered hmm

Susieloo Wed 13-Mar-13 06:12:36

Me too larle, we are up for the day-gutted.

Babybeesmama Wed 13-Mar-13 07:24:58

Poor baby brain sad teething is tough, you'd think nature would've evolved to find an easier way by now! I did find teething powders helped a little brain - as well as calpol nurofen anbesol etc etc!

We had a better night- missed the 1am wake up & went till 3 grin only drank 4oz then co slept from 5. Hoping progress continues!

Its hard susie - especially when you know he can sleep through. Does he drink the entire bottle when he wakes? Xx

Babybeesmama Wed 13-Mar-13 07:46:54

Mrsn - I need no point noodles!!! Where are they from? Xx

MrsNPattz Wed 13-Mar-13 07:55:37

Up time here, one wake up so that's not bad at all!

Poor baby Brain, hope it calms down for him soon.

Hope you got some more sleep Susie and Larle!

Amey I ordered them from Holland and Barratt! They have a buy one get one half price offer on.

Smallgreenone Wed 13-Mar-13 08:33:59

Sorry for all the bad nights. Ours was ok. The usual 2am feed then up at 6.30.
Glad you had a better night amey
Well done on ww mrsn, that's great! I could never do ww as am far too greedy! Miraculously I have lost my 3 stone of baby weight without doing a great deal but I do need to tone up my tummy- not sure how long I can go on using the 'I had a section so can't really excersise properly yet excuse!'

Susieloo Wed 13-Mar-13 09:01:11

small I'm still using that excuse 8 months down the line!!

amey he's started having a whole bottle, 8oz, at about ten which is too much really, he then has about 4oz at half four which is all on top of three meals a day and four bottles during the day-I can only assume its be ause he's a 99th centile baby!!

Have a good day all

susie Kid is the same - three meals plus four bottles plus middle of the night. Probably has about a litre of milk. But he has rocketed up the centiles so that's my excuse too! Is now well above 75th in both length and weight. Obviously never read the books that said he would start dropping milk feeds.

brain I promise when I rule the world I will reinvent the teething process!

MrsNPattz Wed 13-Mar-13 14:54:29

I'm proud of myself today, I went to Cinebabies with little man on my own smile we went to see Oz, it was really good! It was a bit loud in parts which made him cry, and I went and stood down in the door bit to bounce him for a while but then he fell asleep. Would definitely do it again grin

Babybeesmama Wed 13-Mar-13 19:19:24

Ah well done mrsn grin sounds fab!

I've had a lovely day with baby bee, he's been full of giggles & smiles - except when I go out of his line of sight! Serious separation anxiety!!

Tip for anyone doing BLW - DM got me a crinkle cutter as if the edges are wavy on stuff like pear that's slippy its easier for them to hold! He's been eating pitta bread today little scoffer!

Hope baby brains teeth are a bit better! Brain & mrsn what are LO's naps like now? Baby bee still won't sleep longer that 45-60 mins at a time but does 3 per day @ 9am, 12pm and 230pm, I wish he would sleep longer at lunchtime one tho. Xxx

MrsNPattz Wed 13-Mar-13 19:47:15

How funny Amey - my crinkly cutter just arrived today grin his nap times are half an hour a time, usually 3 or 4 times a day! Occasionally sleeps longer but not very often!

I have made 3 point chocolate brownies today so please help yourself smile I had two with low fat custard - so yummy!

larlemucker Wed 13-Mar-13 19:57:18

amey baby larle is 11 weeks and doesn't nap longer than that!!

We've had a lovely trip to Carlisle and spent out vouchers in mother care and lovely inflatable ring seat thingy and a cot mobile. Baby larle was such a good boy and I managed to feed him in costa so quite proud of myself. also went into house of frazer to look at dresses for an upcoming wedding, depressed that most wouldn't have fit round my thigh

Hope baby brain and all the other teethers are doing ok and we all get a decent nights sleep tonight!!

Been trying to get baby larle to nap today before he starts getting too tired, been successful so far as no hissy fits today!

funchum8am Wed 13-Mar-13 20:24:39

Hi everyone, sorry to hear of bad nights! We had a shocker here too and I had an insomnia attack so enjoyed stressing about work while dd and DH slept from 2:30 til 4, though with the odd baby yell to break it up.

It was the funeral today of the student who died so school was a bit sombre but people coped really well.

I am off to bed with new earplugs! And AF has returned so feel a bit sad as it feels like I am not bfing as much as nature thinks I should, but it was my choice to go back to work and on a practical level it has been a great choice so I mustn't get soppy!

(in local news heff and goat, Chinese dad goes back to work next week so maybe DH will become local celebrity sahd!)

Hello all, haven't been able to get on here much between playgroups, playdates and kerbing Stitch's extreme toddler sports involving furniture.

Well done MrsN on your first stone and Cinebabies outing smile

Funch it is so hard maintaining breastfeeding while teaching with a young baby. I only had time to express as I was doing daily supply three days when dd1 was little and still ended up stopping expressing at work. There is no time when full time, lunch breaks are always a sandwich at a computer or while marking. Babyfunch will still get a lot from the remaining breastmilk feeds you give her, but it is not the be all and end all if you drop them all. In the grand scheme of things a happy, less stressed mummy is much more important for babyfunch.

Smallgreenone Wed 13-Mar-13 20:51:57

Oh funch that's quick for AF. I stopped bf at new year and still has not returned, sometimes wonder if I may be pregnant as am soooooo tired but don't think I can be really. At least now the funeral is over things will get back to normal maybe.
Baby small naps really well now but has only just got the hang of it. 1hr in the morning, 2 hours at lunch and 30mins in the afternoon. Seems a lot but he needs all that or he is cranky pants baby from hell!
Off to bed now, nighty night for now........

MissingMyMarbles Wed 13-Mar-13 21:08:46

Ended up co-sleeping from about 2.30 last night due to copious amounts of snot, poor baby sad Doing first feed now too, only two hours since bedtime, which compared to recently us early; hoping its bit setting the tone for the night. Having said that, she might not of woken up but got a bit stuck doing acrobatics in her sleepgrin Think we are getting more teeth too.

Hope the other teethers are going ok.

larlemucker Wed 13-Mar-13 23:16:26

Sorry if I'm being thick but what's AF?

Baby larle just had a mammoth feed so hoping that means he'll sleep for a bit tonight. He has been in a lovely, chatty mood this eve, even making new noises! So cute!! I know I am biased but I don't care!!

Hello again, my catch up post earlier was derailed by Stitch who decided to wake back up fully and lark about until 11pm. An hour later she has just woken again. This is on the back of last night's 2 hourly waking and multiple transfer fails and the night before that dancing about from 3-4am. Another tooth is definitely making an appearance soon.

larle AF is Aunt Flo. Aw babylarle sounds cute, I miss the little baby stage now I have a trainee Everest climbing toddler.

Small I've had two c-sections so I reckon that bought me 12 months of using that excuse grin I am going to try my pregnancy Pilates book from when I had dd1 and start doing the 30 day shred again. I just need to make a regular time to do this in.

Transferring again, back later smile

Transfer fail.

MrsNPattz Thu 14-Mar-13 01:14:08

First feed here, earlier than the last few nights and he's gulping it down!!

I really hope we don't have more snow in the morning, I want to get out walking!

MissingMyMarbles Thu 14-Mar-13 02:26:34

Bless her, she woke up for a cuddle around 10 and then now for a feed. She's chuntering in but hopefully will self settle soon. Oh pants! I've just realised I forgot to put the timer on the rain noises. Don't really want to sneak back inconfused

I've had one or two 'period pains' so have wondered if its getting ready t return, but nothing as yet. I was still feeding DD1 when they returned last time; she was 10 months.

MrsN I don't want anymore snow either. It's spring now.

Stitch, hope you got a successful transfer.

Second feed here, hopefully transfer will go better this time. It took an hour last time before she went down in her cot.

MrsNPattz Thu 14-Mar-13 05:50:20

Second feed here too, and I think little man thinks it's up time but he would be wrong!!

funchum8am Thu 14-Mar-13 06:15:35

larle AF is periods, I never knew the term til I came on MN. seems it may have been a false alarm anyway, nothing more since last night. Weird.

<whispers> babyfunch slept beautifully and didn't wake us at all last night for the first time ever

<runs away before someone slaps my smug grinning face>shock

Susieloo Thu 14-Mar-13 06:46:45

Morning brew

We had a rubbish night so me and dp shared night duties in the end, awake at ten and then 2 ish for ages and then up at six, I've got to start pushi g his bed time back-might try taking him to the park late afternoon-when it warms up a bit!!

Have a good day everyone

larlemucker Thu 14-Mar-13 06:52:01

Thanks for the explanation guys!
We were up for first feed at 3 am and then not up till now when baby larle did his morning poo!!! Strange how he seems to go the same time everyday!!
Thank you stitch, I don't want him to grow up! Saw a load of sweary teenagers on the park the other week, I don't want my little boy to become one of those!!
Sounds like there were some improvements last night! I've put a muslin back in baby larles cot that I shove down my bra for a few hours so it smells of me and it seems to have helped him sleep.
Trying to get him back to sleep now as its far too early to get up!!

Oh, going to the park late afternoon sounds like a great idea. The good nights continue shock but Kid still thinks the day starts between 4:30 and 5am. Nooooo... mrsn you did make me grin

funch if there was an popping champagne bottle too on I would be using it right now!! Congratulations!

Smallgreenone Thu 14-Mar-13 08:27:28

What time does he go to bed susie? Baby small ones at 6.30 but I'd prefer it to be 7 but I just can't keep him up any longer. We were up at 6 too, far too early! Gorgeous sunny day again so that makes it a bit better. I need to do a serious house clean today if I can, downstairs is ok because the cleaner takes care of that but upstairs is getting pretty dusty and uncared for. What's the betting I don't do it though?!

Smallgreenone Thu 14-Mar-13 08:28:03

Also forgot to say, well done baby funch!

Susieloo Thu 14-Mar-13 09:10:05

Small he goes up for his bath at 5.15 and then after bath-scream while I'm getting him changed-feed and then asleep by six, its a struggle some days to get him to 5.15 but that will be the time I'm getting in from work, really not sure how to keep him awake any longer. This also means we start our day at 5.45-6am.

MrsNPattz Thu 14-Mar-13 09:34:57

Well I won earlier with out much of a fight, I changed him first then he had a long feed starting off wide awake and ending fast asleep! We slept until gone 8 so another couple of hours.

Found out this morning that my grandad is in hospital with breathing problems sad he went in yesterday morning and they didn't tell my mum until 4pm!!

We are braving the weather and going for a walk after this feed, no more snow in the night thankfully.

Hope you all have a good day xx

daddyfunch Thu 14-Mar-13 13:29:18

Just a quick one to say "hello" all round and to apologise for babyfunch's behaviour last night!! I'm sure she will be back to normal soon!

Have just braved my first NCT coffee morning which, despite someone shouting on my arrival, "It's a man!" and everyone turning round and staring, went very well. Plenty of cake and flapjacks on offer too!

Hope everyone is having a nice day and enjoying the sunshine.

Babybeesmama Thu 14-Mar-13 14:41:25

Wow funch and daddy funch blush that is amazing grin you seriously deserved that after some of your terrible nights!! Can she send some of her sleepy dust this way please?! Although saying that we had better night 7-9 then 1 till 530 and co slept till 7! Good for us anyway!

Mrsn hope your grandad is ok!! Xx

Smallgreenone Thu 14-Mar-13 15:39:53

Hope your grandpa is ok mrsn, such a worry these oldies. My grandpa is 94 on Sunday so we are going home for a wild party, well not wild really but he does like a beer!
It's trying to snow here now, I'd like an afternoon in the park too, when the winter finally decides to give way to spring.
Enjoying my 30 mins of peace before I get baby small up from his nap.

Susieloo Thu 14-Mar-13 17:32:50

Love all the nct mums proclaiming 'its a man!!' daddyfunchgrin

Last feed before bed-despite two hour long naps today he is still exhausted by 5 and just doesn't seem able to stay up any later.

Really hoping we don't have a repeat of last night, anyone else think its one step forward two back-we were making real progress and its all fine pear shaped.

Hope your grandpa is okay mrsn

EeyoresGloomyPlace Thu 14-Mar-13 18:47:30

Sending lots of good health vibes for your grandad mrsn

Oh wow funch that's fantastic, really hope that's the start of good things to come, especially after some of the truly horrendous nights you've had. I'd say there's definitely an opening for local sahd fame, if CD is going back to work then daddyfunch it sounds like the position is there for the taking wink Glad you had a good coffee morning.

Babylump is driving me demented today sad She's got so clingy this week and has a total meltdown if I dare put her down for two minutes. She's also perfected a horrible super shrill squeal which could break glass I'm sure, and I think its purely an attention thing because once I pick her back up its all smiles again. I can't carry her round all day, even with a sling I can't manage as much as she's demanding. Its getting me down because I want her to be happy but I just can't keep up.

Off to slimming club now, have been rubbish this week so not expecting great things. mrsn you're an inspiration I wish I had your willpower!

Night all catch you later xx

Babybeesmama Thu 14-Mar-13 18:59:55

Heff baby bee is exactly the same since Monday - he's like Velcro baby! Screams if I so much as move an inch towards door & wails if anyone else attempts to hold him! Made it hard work today as DD had her jabs and her arms hurt this afternoon & she wanted mummy but DS wouldn't go to my friend or SIL! confused

Bedtime bottle here and he had a huge tea which also included finishing off DD's cheese on toast. He's such a little piggy!! X

MrsNPattz Thu 14-Mar-13 19:08:29

Thanks guys, mum has gone to see him tonight so will know more tomorrow probably.

Well done baby Funch that's brilliant!! Hope it continues.

Aw thanks Heff, I hope you get on ok.

I'm shattered tonight, hubby is bathing little man so I've just sat down in front of the telly. We went for a walk this morning, then I made chicken pies this afternoon. They were yummy!

Smallgreenone Thu 14-Mar-13 19:40:12

Baby small is a Velcro baby too, he sits on my hip most of the day. It's worse in the afternoons and when he's tired but he's pretty clingy. Also still not eating sad. Even eggy bread was rejected today and he normally likes that. Trying not to get down about it as I know all his calories and nutrition come from milk but I'd still like him to eat- he used to think food was great a few weeks ago. susie big resounding yes to one step forward and two back!

Hmm, Velcro baby, check.
Shrill squeal, check.
Morning poonami, check.
Sleep up and down like a yoyo, check.


These babies really need to stop consulting with each other. When on earth are they finding time to do that? Are they tag teaming, do you think?

Congrats on your foray into the NCT coffee morning, daddyfunch ! and your survival

All the best with your granddad, mrsn

daddyfunch Thu 14-Mar-13 19:59:14

Mrsn I hope your gramps is ok. Fingers crossed for you.

Sorry to hear of bad nights...I am getting nervous about whatever payback babyfunch has in store for us after last night's unexpected good sleep. Spreading the sleepy dust around liberally!

Also hope those clingy babies improve...god forbid babyfunch ever get like that about me! Or daddyfunch, in fact, as we both work!

MrsNPattz Thu 14-Mar-13 22:02:17

Aw little man woke up half an hour after going down very upset, with his teeth I think. Given him Calpol and Nelson's teething powder and that's him back down. Hopefully that settles him for the night, poor thing!

larlemucker Thu 14-Mar-13 22:31:24

funch is that you signed on as daddyfunch?

MrsN I hope your grandad is better soon and it's nothing serious.

daddyfunch you are a brave man! My DH came with me to breast feeding support and baby social while he was on leave but there's no way he would have gone on his own with baby larle! --not that he would need breast feeding support but you know what I mean--grin

Not a bad night last night but baby larle has not had many naps today, and we had to wake him for his bath tonight as he had been to his grandmas today and she smokes, not in the house or around DS but he still smells of smoke when he comes home. He is currently thrashing around cot, hoping he will put himself back to sleep <fingers crossed emoticon>

Sleepy dust to everyone

EeyoresGloomyPlace Thu 14-Mar-13 22:45:56

larle grin at your DH needing breastfeeding support!

I lost 3lbs!! No idea how, and tbh the glass of wine or three I've had tonight had probably ruined the achievement but still really happy about that, had totally expected to have put on this week!

I think DH is in a bit of a hump because I legged it and left him with the DDs tonight but I feel better for having had some time to myself, DM came to meet me too while I was out so we've had a nice nice after all.

Up to bed now, expecting babylump will probably wake as soon as I get comfy though, how do they always know?!

MissingMyMarbles Thu 14-Mar-13 22:59:51

Both my girls are under the weather tonight. DD1 has a temperature yet again, and Missmarbles is full if cold, not that you could tell by her mood, she's been on fine form, but more by the copious amounts of snot and the snorting while she feeds. Hopefully they will both sleep all night and wake up feeling better tomorrow.

Evening, Family*Funch*! Well done baby for last night. Long may it continue and spread the word wink "It's a man!"! That's funny grin

Hope your grandad's health improves quickly, MrsN.

Hi to everyone else. Sorry for bit better name checking, I can't remember what I have read less than five minutes ago, and I can barely keep my eyes open. Hope everyone gets long stints, although as Heff said, bet I get woken as soon as I nod off grin

BrainGoneAwol Fri 15-Mar-13 01:05:09

mrsn hope your grandad is ok sad

amey babybrain's naps vary between 30 mins-1.5 hours (rare). Though if he was on me I think he'd sleep all day!

Had a good night last night (relatively speaking), in that there was one block of 3.5 hours sleep for me, but he woke at 5.30 for the day. His bottom has mostly cleared never did get around to egg white but so far tonight he's woken at least every hour since 7.30pm. Poor little one, he is really suffering with his teeth sad. I wish I could do more to help. Everything is so ineffective.

Dreading that the rest of the night will be like this...

Oh well, I knew we were in for a bad night as the last few nights deteriorated towards normal... Have been to him every 15 mins or so since 11pm. Refusing to cosleep. I LOVE my bed! Especially when it is free of wriggly, kicky babies who hog three quarters of it...

Can I persuade Kid to let me experience said bed for the rest of the night? Preferably until at least 7 and not his favoured 4:30? hmm

larlemucker Fri 15-Mar-13 02:47:51

Oh no lots of bad nights out there, we're up for our usual 3am ish feed!

Very proud of baby larle for getting himself to sleep twice today!!

Right sex and the city is on!! More sleepy dust bring spread

MrsNPattz Fri 15-Mar-13 02:55:37

First feed here, sounds like some seriously bad nights going on - naughty babies! Hope things improve!

Heff that's fantastic, well done you!

Grandad has an infection so is getting antibiotics which is improving things ignores news he was on a ward with all ladies, mum said 'I hope there has been no hanky panky', grandad replied 'they are all about 90' and mum said 'so are you!!' Haha that's the grandad we know and love he likes a good flirt

Smallgreenone Fri 15-Mar-13 04:43:49

Why is it that baby small picks a night when dh is away to be up every two hours? Do they actually know you're on your own and want some sleep? Wakes up tonight 12.30, 2 and now.
My friend has just had a baby girl so there may be a new name on here soon!

Smallgreenone Fri 15-Mar-13 04:44:40

Glad grandad in good spirits mrsn and getting better.

larlemucker Fri 15-Mar-13 05:14:43

MrsN glad your grandad is doing ok and still laughing, he sounds like great fun!

We're up again, if MIL had just listened to me this aft and made him go back to sleep I think we would have had a much better night. He definitely sleeps better when he has had good naps!!

Meh. Up every 15 mins since 22:50. Other than from 4:33 to 5:22.

I'm selling him.

Babybeesmama Fri 15-Mar-13 06:47:47

Small and goat - our boys are in sync! Very unsettled night here too! Not even co sleeping helped. So tired! Maybe its teething round 2! confused X

Smallgreenone Fri 15-Mar-13 07:43:32

We could sell them as a special deal three for the price of 1!

Babybeesmama Fri 15-Mar-13 08:05:23

Ha ha or free to a good home! grin

Yes, cuteness factor tripled? Surely a winner! grin

BrainGoneAwol Fri 15-Mar-13 09:04:38

Would four make it a more or less attractive offer? grin

Things didn't improve for us either, though you'd never know it from how smiley and giggly babybrain is first thing at 6am He surely must be exhausted since I am... I keep thinking I can feel a tooth though so hoping this doesn't go on too much longer - though they do come in pairs sad

small yes they do know when we are on our own, desperate for sleep and the instant we have just started to drop off. I am now convinced that babybrain's high pitched squeaking is actually a form of communication that can travel miles to other babies so they can coordinate night time activities. Yes.

brain shock that's it! Our babies were bats in a past life and have maintained the ability to communicate ultrasonically.

And yes, let's make it four - even numbers are much better!

MrsNPattz Fri 15-Mar-13 09:53:47

Awake at twenty past 7 here but I couldn't drag myself out of bed until ten to 8! Baby group this morning then Tesco this afternoon to stock up on food for BLW!!

Smallgreenone Fri 15-Mar-13 12:04:47

Lol at the idea of babies as bats previously!
I am not leaving the house today, too tired and we've got some bets on so want to see what's happening at Cheltenham! I'll let you know if I get a big win!!! I love Cheltenham, wonder if baby small will still be too tiny to take next year?! DH is there and is having far too much fun by all accounts!

Babybeesmama Fri 15-Mar-13 13:47:45

Well we've decided short naps are fine today, apart from he's a grump!! I wish he would have longer at lunchtime! So frustrating!

Mil has bought homemade banofee pie over (had it before - lush) how am I going to resist??? shock X

We are still trying for the post lunch nap confused Grumpasaurus is in full flow.

larlemucker Fri 15-Mar-13 14:43:43

amey we very rarely do short naps either and it's a pain when you've got things to do!! like clean my scummy bathroom

We've been to bumps and babes this morn and then out to walk the dog and visit his fab shop, the butchers!!

Sorry to hear kid is being grumpy goat

Am seriously tempted to tell MIL she can't look after baby larle until she has given up smoking but worried it might cause problems, just don't like him coming home smelling of smoke!

larle I would be absolutely with you about the smoking!! But then I am a rabid anti smoker a complete pain mainly because it really plays havoc with my asthma, really the only thing that does now.

We managed 30 mins napping! Calm is currently restored. Or what passes for calm in the Goat enclosure... tries to ignore hearty bouncing in jumperoo

MrsNPattz Fri 15-Mar-13 17:31:50

You can do it Amey!! Or point it smile

Larle I wouldn't put up with that!

larlemucker Fri 15-Mar-13 17:39:12

goat my grandad died of lung cancer after smoking for about 60 years. He was the generation where they gave you cigarettes as wages. He smoked for that long the Dr told him not to give up as he would probably have a heart attack.
My Dh used to smoke, after my grandad died I told him it was me or the fags, thankfully of course he picked me!!!

BrainGoneAwol Fri 15-Mar-13 18:26:36

Well, babybrain has been trying to make up for last nights ridiculousness by wanting to eat and sleep for most of today. (Apart from the jumperoo session earlier. goat I babybrain shares kid's love of that thing. He gets quite hysterical in it.)

I'm hoping naively that it will mean a better night.

ARGH! He's just bitten me! One of these days he's going to draw blood! Ow ow ow. So painful. I'm now throbbing while he's shut his eyes and snuggled down!

EeyoresGloomyPlace Fri 15-Mar-13 19:41:31

On bed time feed here, very late as we popped to grandads to enjoy a Friday night bottle of bubbly grin DH playing with dd1 (although they should be going to bed!) and I'm just about to go down and start dinner.

larle I sympathise about the smoking. Pils both smoked, as does DH, but when we told mil we were expecting dd1 she was amazing and quit instantly so that she could babysit. We were very lucky though, and as DH still smokes I think mil deserves even more credit for her devotion! I think you'd be we'll within your rights so ask her to refrain from smoking while she's looking after baby larle.

Will try and catch up properly later, my tummy is telling me its dinner time now! xx

funchum8am Fri 15-Mar-13 19:43:13

Sorry yes that was me logged on as DH yesterday. Should stick to using my phone! Very angry. with all these naughty babies. Maybe at easter I can send DH off for a rest and I will have them all round and give them The Look and talk to them in The Voice I use at work...

We had an ok night last night, but assuming it won't last!

Am off shopping tomorrow to buy clothes to fit how big I am and how old I out end of sale bargains in Jaeger, Viyella etc!! Am going to dress like a 55 year old at work as they are the clothes that suit my figure these days and always have, just couldn't admit it before having a baby grin

Babybeesmama Fri 15-Mar-13 19:43:43

God I'm knackered, PIL are lovely but I do feel like I've been running around after them all day - making lunch then dinner & endless cups of tea! Always make the error of trying to have dinner before kids in bed (we always eat at 730pm after kids in bed) so I ended up trying to sort babybee out & my tea went cold on table. And now I have a stack of washing up to do - bleugh. PIL still here but I shall be off to bed before long. Just put DD to bed & am ready to drop after a sneaky vodka & tonic .

Tried babybee with weetabix today - jeez - he inhaled it! Ate an entire one! I'm amazed at his food intake clearly takes after his mother where volumes concerned!

Sleepy dust all! X

BrainGoneAwol Fri 15-Mar-13 21:30:44

I've run off to bed while dp does the first settling shift grin. So far babybrain transfered at 7.00, had a tiny 5 min resettle at 9.00 and all quiet again. Maybe he'll sleep through... Hahahahahahaha!

There's carrot and almond baked cheesecake for anyone that wants. A Paul Hollywood recipe, but with v low fat cream cheese and v low fat creme fraiche instead of double cream at dps request wink Still very rich! Quite tasty smile

funch please can I borrow The Look and The Voice?

amey babybrain loves wheetabix too. Raisen wheats soaked in milk are also a favourite. smile

Hope you all have good nights.

EeyoresGloomyPlace Fri 15-Mar-13 21:37:09

funch could you please bring The Look round here and employ it where babylump is concerned. The screeching is doing my head in!

amey if you've done all the cooking couldn't pils/DH wash up for you? Maybe funch needs to come and be stern at then for you wink Hope you get to put your feet up soon.

Just watched yesterday's Big Reunion, I'm such a sucker for it all, wish I was going to the live shows. Very envy of my friend who god tickets for valentines day.

MrsNPattz Fri 15-Mar-13 22:13:19

Bedtime here, little man went down at about half 9 but woke up half an hour later. He took a feed and has fallen back to sleep.

Heff I am loving the big reunion - I really want Lee and Lyndsey to get back together!

Brain that cheesecake sounds sooooo good!!

funchum8am Fri 15-Mar-13 22:47:42

l love raisin wheats too!! yum

Always happy to crack out the Look in civvy street heff and others, you just make a time...easter hols I am free! Not sure babies will quaver at my Ultimate Sanction of Detention though grin

I will be cryptic as I haven't the strength to post a long one.

Me=flu, dd1=flu, Stitch=bouncing bean last two nights now coming down with flu.

Bless my mum who drove 3 hours to get here today and help out.

BrainGoneAwol Sat 16-Mar-13 00:24:54

stitch poor you. Hope your bean settles down and well done to your dm for helping out.

amey just read heff's post. And realised what you said - Yes they absolutely should be tidying up and helping. <puts on dm's voice> Do they think you are running a hotel?

On first feed here. Dp settled babybrain at 10ish, so this isn't bad so far. Just need him to keep at it.

MrsNPattz Sat 16-Mar-13 01:15:07

First feed! I'm sleepy and can't think if anything more interesting to put ��

First feed here too. Fab!
Is now crawling merrily around cot chatting to self. Not so fab...

stitch here's to a quick recovery for you all.

funch problem is, I have a great Voice from years of practice - Kid just laughs at me... hmm

Smallgreenone Sat 16-Mar-13 01:56:43


Susieloo Sat 16-Mar-13 02:44:52

Agree small

So I am now up for the fifth time. Dd1 has had a very bad night though luckily hasn't vomited yet. Stitch thank goodness has woken only twice, but her coughing is terrible and has been keeping me awake. I am hoping she gets a milder version than me because of the breastfeeding. I am hoping this is the last virus of winter now.

Stitch gets 'the look' and 'the voice', but still insists on pulling out my CD collection. She gets detention in 'the pen', which seems to work for all of 5 minutes, before she goes to them again. She is like a magpie with shiny things.

larlemucker Sat 16-Mar-13 03:47:17

Oh stitch sorry to hear you are all ill, hope you all get better soon.

funch think baby larle might still be a bit young for 'the voice', however, I could always do with extra training if you're up for lessons!

We're up for first feed here, watching comic relief that we taped earlier.
Just seen weather and snow is forecast tomorrow hmm I have a lovely walk and wander round the shops planned.

Spreading more sleepy dust, baby larle napped really well yest so hopefully we'll have a good nights sleep

BrainGoneAwol Sat 16-Mar-13 04:58:59

Second wake for me with babybrain.

It's so frustrating, he woke again with wind and by the time he'd wriggled around enough to get it out he was awake. He was just about sleepy enough to settle with white noise, but then he's pulling up his legs and moaning. So I get him out to do some stretches. Get a bit more wind out, by which stage he is well and truly awake. Sit in the dark for a bit when I hear this sucking noise. He's woken enough that now he's hungry and is trying to eat my cardi!

So feeding it is then... Which I know will give him nighttime wind. hmm

Does anyone else know that song by Flanders & Swan called The Gas Man Cometh? There should be one for life with babies...

Babybeesmama Sat 16-Mar-13 06:00:17

Terrible night here confused. DH just taking him downstairs to watch Grand Prix qualifying! He's either teething again or its reflux because I stopped the gaviscon on Tuesday. God knows sad.

Funch - has sleeping through continued? X

MrsNPattz Sat 16-Mar-13 07:45:33

Up time here, so quite a good stretch after first feed!

It is little man's half birthday today!! Can't believe how quickly it has gone. Hubby and I are off to Cinebabies and for lunch which will be lovely.

I forgot to say, we tried him with food last night for the first time! He tried Butternut Squash and pear. It was so cute seeing him in his high chair eating making a mess

Stitch hope you all feel better soon!

Amey hope you got some more sleep after baby Bee went downstairs!

larlemucker Sat 16-Mar-13 08:02:26

Sorry to hear of bad nights. After our half 3 feed baby larle slept till half 7. He had some really good naps yest and I think that makes a massive difference to how well he sleeps at night.

Anyone watch comic relief last night? As much as its fun to watch and the celebs waive their fee do you think they give any of their millions to it?

BrainGoneAwol Sat 16-Mar-13 09:01:02

I got bored with it and went to bed, but then I did turn on at the point they were doing the bit on gangs and I detest Eastenders with an irrational passion been forced to watch it by my dm who is addicted

Ime working at various charities, celebs are funny creatures just like the rest of us Some just do it to raise their own profile and look good, some will only reduce their fee and don't get asked again others embrace it completely and do amazing stuff both with their money and time. Celebs are just like us wink

Babybeesmama Sat 16-Mar-13 09:44:13

Wow that's fab larle! Well done baby larle - good sleeping! I didn't watch it, it upsets me watching some of the visits to Africa. I do agree that being told be millionaires to donate my money is slightly patronising! X

larlemucker Sat 16-Mar-13 18:16:17

We record it and fast forward the depressing videos

Been out since 10 this morn, totally knackered! So proud of the fact that we fed in public again with no problems!! Got lots of activity points to add to WW!!!

EeyoresGloomyPlace Sat 16-Mar-13 19:16:34

Well done larle that's great, and the more you do it the easier it will be.

Happy half birthday to little man mrsn what did you watch at cinebabies?

I've just got back from a long and rather depressing shopping trip to town to get some new work clothes, because I've resigned myself to the fact that I've got about 6 weeks left and there's no chance I'm going to be pre pg size that quickly. Got some lovely things in Debenhams bit just a little sad at the sizes. Will get there though, determined not to get lazy about it.

Hope everyone's had a nice day, see you later on xx

Babybeesmama Sat 16-Mar-13 19:54:46

Heff I am also sad about sizes! But you've done really well! I wish I could get into ww more, I keep going off the rails at weekends and being tired means I have even less will power!

Been out with DB and his wife & my SIL (other brother is away with work) plus my parents and all 5 grandchildren! They played so well together, was lovely. Made me a bit sad tho as there is usually always tension between the SIL's and one of my DB's seems to speak with out thinking sometimes. We all use to be so close & I feel really sad that we aren't so much now. I know its up to the parents but my eldest bro & SIL have 2 kids & asked their friends to be godparents to their first, but they have also asked them for second. I kind of feel like it would've been nice if me or other DB were asked (we asked them for DD & will ask other bro for babybee). Maybe I'm being unreasonable certainly would never ask in AIBU thread!! blush! It sometimes feels like they put their friends before family, we didn't even get invited to their DS's 3rd bday party, felt sad for kids really. Anyway, enough about me!

Sorry for moan!!


MrsNPattz Sat 16-Mar-13 20:32:12

Hopefully last feed before bed here. How do you guys get them down at bedtime? We are usually still feeding or rocking to sleep, is he getting too old for that now? I don't mind doing it, but hubby asked if we should still be doing that.

Amey aw that sounds a bit mean! Could you speak to your brothers? Did you have some Banoffee?

We are going to in laws tomorrow for what's meant to be tea, but they have asked us to go at 2 so SIL can get home for her little girl (she goes to bed at 7, why on earth do we need 5 hours to have something to eat??) cause it's not like we have a baby too I always dread it when I know we are seeing them, as awful as that sounds. I just don't feel myself around,like I am putting on an act. And I always feel judged about my parenting! So Yey, a fun day tomorrow lol

larlemucker Sat 16-Mar-13 20:34:30

Oh amey sorry to hear that, picking godparents is so hard. We were going to have my DSis but she is really not religious and I thought she might find it difficult to stand at the font and say whatever about god but when I discussed it with her she said she would be happy to do it so don't know what to do now!

MrsN hope your LO had a good half birthday!

heff I was looking at dresses for my cousins wedding today, was picking up a particular massive size and looking at it thinking "am I really that big?" But hopefully WW will help with that

Spreading sleepy dust to all the DSs and DDs out there, my friend needs to share it out. Her DD, who is 4 days younger than baby larle, has been sleeping 9-7! So not fair!!

MrsNPattz Sat 16-Mar-13 20:37:11

Heff we went to see The Croods we are big kids it was funny!

funchum8am Sat 16-Mar-13 21:22:07

I have sorted my work wardrobe today...still a 16 but now from shops with bigger sizes grin I do feel quite bad about my weight now, or rather about how greedy I have become. DH and I are going to cut out weeknight puds and I am cutting back on wine <sob>

Sleep has indeed continued to be better though she is now back to waking about 2:30 for a feed. We are also doing a 10:30 dream feed which is quite annoying as we would like to go to bed a fair bit earlier than that!

mrsn babyfunch used to cry for a few mins when put down but would then drop off (this from about 4 months old) and since she learned to suck her thumb about 3 weeks later she is put down, the thumb goes in and we don't hear from her til dream feed time. So while we had terrible wakings later we have been very, very lucky that she goes down so easily. She would happily sleep from about 5pm if we let her!

Smallgreenone Sat 16-Mar-13 21:41:04

Baby small goes down awake and self settles usually with no crying. Tonight however we are at my parents so I am in baby smalls room and dh is in the spare room because baby small wont sleep here at all unless next to me. Hope this doesn't bugger up our routine at home but expect it will. Does anyone else find baby wont settle unless at home? Baby small is 6 months now so very aware of surroundings, was so much more portable when newborn.

MissingMyMarbles Sat 16-Mar-13 22:55:09

Evening everyone.

I fell off the diet wagon today. I stepped on the scales this morning and had only lost about 1/2 a pound, and although I have been really good this week, it's been a struggle, then I made the children drop scones for breakfast and had one (fine as only 3 points), then completely lacked any inspiration for lunch and we went out, had a salad...... but then had apple crumbleblush We walked to the park in the sunshine, and when we came home to watch the rugby, I made popcorn. By that time I thought it was game over, so I've had a bar of chocolate and a digestive tooblush Ah well, tomorrow is another day....

Missmarbles goes down after falling asleep feeding around 7 but she self settles if she stirs after that. She flips over onto her tummy and has rain music on. She still wakes for a feed about . 10/11 then 1/2 and 4/5 before getting up at 6.30/7. I do wish that we were down to 1 waking and that I could be sure she'd settle with Daddy and a cup of milkconfused I'm back to work on the 2nd and start nights the following week. I took a night job because I really believed she would have been sleeping through by thenhmm

Not big comic relief fans really, although some of the projects that it supports are really worthwhile. We watched bits of it but went to bed about half 10. The sad bits are really sad though; I think it gets to me even more because I have children of my ownsad

Well done for public feeding, Larle. It gets easier every timesmile

Just popped up to do first feed.....

Families are complicated, aren't they, Amey? Hope you get it resolved amicably.

I think we'd DD1 would like The Croods, MrsN. Is it suitable for an 8 year old? She's quite a sensitive soul, so not too scary? (This is the child who didn't like the scary bear in Toy Story 3 and cried in Bravegrin) I know that kids films are rated, but sometimes I think that some of the jokes and even the storylines sometimes, can be a bit adult. Perhaps I am just over-reactive because she is sensitive. I don't need more disturbances in the night, due to nightmares.

abi2790 Sat 16-Mar-13 22:59:13

just lay down and closed my eyes then ds wakes up wanting a feed! Arrrggghhh so tired!

MrsNPattz Sat 16-Mar-13 23:51:10

First feed here zzzzzzz only been asleep an hour!! I was day dreaming about him sleeping through tonight! Been so tired today, had to have a nap this afternoon - think I did too much in the week. Who was it that said that breast feeding totally tires them out? I think it must be this that is causing it with me, when I do too much I feel totally drained!

Marbles there is quite a lot of chasing of the The Croods by different animals, not sure if this would scare her? Not too many adult jokes I don't think. We enjoyed it!

Ok so now I'm wondering about sleep training, but I don't want to leave him when he's upset sad

MissingMyMarbles Sun 17-Mar-13 00:35:34

Third feed!
Been up hourly since 10.30hmm
She seems upset sad She is full if cold though.

larlemucker Sun 17-Mar-13 03:05:07

First feed here (if you count transfer fail at 10!!) was woken up to the sound of baby larle trying to suck the flesh off his fingers!! Must be hungry as on second boob!

Sorry to hear of bad nights. It's scary reading these posts wondering if I'm still going to be here in 3 months time!!

abi2790 Sun 17-Mar-13 04:16:19

second feed of the night sad hopefully ds will let me have a bit of a lie in! I can't wait until he sleeps through the night!

BrainGoneAwol Sun 17-Mar-13 04:28:14

Second feed here which is unheard of from babybrain. First was at 10.45 and he woke twice before now and self settled! He's never self settled before! Trying very hard not to hope this is a new skill he has learned. It's probably just a phase grin

Managed to pick up some bug or other as I was feeling horribly ill last night sad. Still feeling quite dodgy and really hope I don't give it to babybrain, though I've no idea where it came from and dp seems fine.

amey godparents are such a hard thing. We haven't yet told 'iLs that we've asked my brother for babybrain. I just know it's going to cause 'why not one of us' issues.... I don't mean you are doing that (babybrain is the first so there's no precedent) just that the subject does seem to cause problems sad

marbles tomorrow is another day. My mum did a diet that was two days on, one day off which worked really well for her. While it was slow it was more gentle than some (and recommended by her gp) so these things can be recovered smile

larle hope not!

Welcome abi. Sorry you have joined us... How old is your ds?

Going to try trf. Sorry to those not name checked. Hope people have good rest of nights.

MrsNPattz Sun 17-Mar-13 05:01:12

Second feed hmm

Oh fffffffffffs. Sorry, me me me moan alert. We had to go to Kent yesterday. Nice day (despite the unbelievably cold wind and pouring rain grin ) but long. We were at friends for the last bit, managed to get Kid to sleep at 6. Of course he woke when transferred to car, woke halfway round the M25 for a feed, then woke when we got home. I mean really woke. It took nearly two hours to settle him, didn't sleep until nearly midnight, then woke every 20-30 mins for the rest of the night grizzling. And was up at 4:45. sad
Our own fault for disturbing his sleep patterns so much, but what do you do when you have to have a day out?... Now that he is too big for the car seats we can carry him round in. Am I doomed to the life of a recluse at home while DH trots off and does stuff? <melodramatic emoticon with accompanying soundtrack>

marbles I think the bear in Toy Story 3 is scary too grin

Sorry will read posts properly later when awake. And when Kid is not hmm

larlemucker Sun 17-Mar-13 06:56:22

Oh goat that's crap, hope you had a good day though and you can have a lazy day today to catch up on sleep. Just read your post on how you met DP, so lovely! What a proposal!! My DH shoved his dirty socks in my face so I would look away giving him time to get ring out and get down on one knee!! We had picked ring together do knew it was going to happen, just didn't know when!

Woke up to lots of snow this morning and its still coming down, where has spring gone? Thank god I had a lazy day in front if the tv planned and I did the food shop yest!

Welcome abi sorry you've had to join us!!

Right DH gone to work, baby larle asleep. Time to snuggle and go back to sleep!!

Susieloo Sun 17-Mar-13 06:56:44

Sounds incredibly frustrating goat, I hate disturbing bb's routine because it usually leads to a bad night and I always thought I'd be one of those laissez faire parents and it turns out I'm not!!

mrsn hope it goes okay at your in laws today.

We had a peculiar night with eight million transfer fails between 8-11 because of cot gymnastics and then awake at five for 45 minutes and now he's still asleep and I am awake.

Bb is off for a sleepover at my mums tonight, v looking forward to it but will also miss him desperately, the two bottles of champagne in the fridge should help-we are going to watch Argo and Sinister and generally loll around.

Have good Sundays everyone.

EeyoresGloomyPlace Sun 17-Mar-13 07:40:30

Oh goat poor you its so difficult when their routine is disturbed. If it helps we've always loosely followed the same routine but it hasn't stopped us going out either, dd1 has got quite good as drifting off in the car then going properly to bed once home, there is hope for you!

Ooh is there a proposals thread somewhere then? Love hearing people's stories where is it?

mrsn I still feed, rock, shhh pat etc. I don't always wait until she's actually asleep though, if she's calm enough I usually go into dd1s room next door and sort the washing out or something so I can pop back in to resettle (we're sort of pick up put down-ing but sometimes just a stroke of the head or I lay next to her for a bit) She's getting better and better at it now, usually complains a bit but we've not had too much proper crying. Do what feels ok for you still, sleep training will come but he's still small so don't push yourselves if you're not all ready.

Enjoy your bubbly susie

Welcome abi how old is your LO?

Right, going to kick DH out of bed with the DDs now, its about time I got a lie in.

Have a lovely day all xx

larle grin at the dirty socks, how romantic! Well he should know its true love since you still said yes!!
heff it's a how-did-you-meet-DH/dp thread - here
Does it help when you can turn the car seat round to forward facing? Putting him in his new seat is such a faff it does wake him. Was thinking that next time we go, will ask friends to let me do bedtime routine - bath etc - and put in sleepsuit etc (forgot to take one sad ) so hopefully can do a straight transfer when getting home without the enormous poonami that really didn't help matters
susie I saw your photo of the champers on fb, do enjoy!! smile

Oh, happy half birthday to your LO, mrsn !

Babybeesmama Sun 17-Mar-13 08:24:58

Another hideous night here sad I had a bit of a meltdown at 3am and was in tears, I'm just so fed up of no sleep & if I go to a baby group I'm actually embarrassed when other mums ask me how he sleeps because I feel somehow its my fault sad. I honestly don't know how to tackle it. Last night he woke every hour, I'd given calpol incase it was teeth, gaviscon again incase of reflux. Don't understand. He can self settle 90% of time so would seem weird to only sleep train in middle of night? Any suggestions welcome.....

Goat - its so hard keeping to routine, we rarely manage it because he always falls to sleep in Carseat but wakes up as soon as we get home & doesn't go back down. His afternoon nap yesterday was 10 mins.

Marbles I fall of diet wagon every weekend confused mrsn I did have banofee pie blush and wine.... And birthday cake yesterday confused. X

MrsNPattz Sun 17-Mar-13 08:36:09

Up time here, am hoping for some more sleep once hubby gets up!

We are going to In laws at 2, would you have lunch before you go or not? I have no idea if she is expecting us to go and then eat straight away, or go and hang around for hours and eat later on blush

Enjoy Susie!

Thanks Heff, will see how we get on.

You poor thing Amey - I'm not sure what to suggest but hope you can rest today!

Off for a nosey at that thread!

abi2790 Sun 17-Mar-13 09:00:06

hi everyone. My ds is 3 months. I didn't get a lie in! disappointed face

abi2790 Sun 17-Mar-13 09:03:12

babybeesmama sorry to hear you had a bad night. how old is your lo? my ds has just gone through the same thing and he's 3 months.

Susieloo Sun 17-Mar-13 09:29:52

amey its absolutely nothing you are doing wrong, I know loads of mums and babies in the same boat as all of us lot and I genuinely believe that the babies will just eventually sleep better, for me its one step forward, two or three back. I totally sympathise and I've had many a 3am meltdown, its debilitating to say the least but I firmly believe it will get better!!

Susieloo Sun 17-Mar-13 09:31:18

Welcome abi

BrainGoneAwol Sun 17-Mar-13 09:40:33

Well babybrain only slept for another 1.5 hours, but dp settled him at 5.30 and then took him upstairs when he woke again. Apparently for his breakfast he had 1/3 banana, and two dessert spoons of wheetabix and milk! He's really getting into this food thing. Although the banana acted like glue so he had wheetabix stuck all over him and he still smells of it

amey hugs. It's so hard. I've definitely had a number of meltdowns and I never used to be a teary person at all. Just remember, it will get better. It could just be developmental in a busy brain processing everything from the day. Sounds like you are doing the right things to make sure he's not in pain or anything.

mrsn tricky. Can you ask? That's a really difficult time, especially for a Sunday when things are often later. Maybe you could ask under the guise of saying you need to make sure you have food suitable for blw? wink

Also off to look at that thread. smile

larlemucker Sun 17-Mar-13 09:48:59

amey I've also had 3am, 4am and 5am meltdowns so you are not alone! Have you thought about taking him to Drs and get them to check to see if there is anything medically or physically wrong?

Snow starting to wash away now but still having a lazy day!!

Oh yes to the meltdowns... Usually getting a bemused stare from Kid, apparently he is the only one allowed to wail loudly at 3 in the morning!
amey sleep deprivation is really tough, as is broken sleep (six hours is all very well, but not in 30 min slots). I really really hope you get some sleep and recuperation, starting with today.

MrsNPattz Sun 17-Mar-13 13:05:07

Thanks Brain - hubby phoned and asked, we are supposedly eating at 2. Lasagne. Who eats Lasagne at 2 on a Sunday? God I sound ungrateful, sorry I just get wound up and it's the only place I can vent! I don't think it would bother me so much if I wasn't doing WW, hate feeling out of control!

Sorry for all the bad nights, I went back to bed at half 9 and slept until gone 12 shock hopefully you guys get a nap this afternoon!

I haven't read that thread yet as I stumbled across another one that I couldn't stop reading - about a lady who has been sectioned, it's really sad sad

Babybeesmama Sun 17-Mar-13 13:35:00

Thanks you lot - you always make me feel better! Abi - he's 6 months this week but always been a terrible sleeper sad doesn't want to be wide awake in middle of night just wakes up frequently & never does long stretches.

I might take him to see my nice lady gp, just to put my mind at rest. The gaviscon is def making him a little constipated. He's had a longer nap than usual & I'm about to put him down now, going to use the ncss technique to try n extend it post 45 mins.

We have made the conservatory into a playroom this morning, looks great & DD loves having all her toys in one place! X

Smallgreenone Sun 17-Mar-13 19:01:12

I have meltdowns too! And I hate messing up baby smalls routine. Why do parents and friends without kids not understand this? I think they think I am some sort of over militant menta