How do you make a bottle in middle of night. I mean what do you actually do, not what you should do

(52 Posts)
1978andallthat Tue 08-Jan-13 18:55:54

All that boiling the kettle and letting it cool malarkey no good at 3am. What do you really do in middle of night? Straight from fridge? Thermos by bed? Ready made? Am mix feeding newborn and never really cracked this with dd so want a better middle of the night system for ds.

PickledInAPearTree Tue 08-Jan-13 18:57:02

I used cartons! grin

galwaygirl Tue 08-Jan-13 18:57:41

We made up the night time bottles in advance before going to bed, using water above 70 degrees to kill bacteria in formula, cooled quickly in bowl of cold/iced water, put in fridge and then quickly heated when required.

HTH

cathpip Tue 08-Jan-13 19:00:52

Pre make night time bottles like pp then leave in the fridge, and then slap my wrists pop in the microwave (minus teat) for 30 seconds, dd prefered room temp milk whereas ds liked his heated for 45 seconds.....

Panzee Tue 08-Jan-13 19:02:41

Another carton fan here.

PeazlyPops Tue 08-Jan-13 19:03:28

Cartons, but then I use them for daytime feeds too.

galwaygirl Tue 08-Jan-13 19:03:44

We used the microwave too after a while, we never heated them that much and shook them well

ohmygoshandgolly Tue 08-Jan-13 19:05:07

I do the same as cathpip. I give the bottle a good shake before feeding.

Dirtymistress Tue 08-Jan-13 19:06:46

we keep bottles in the fridge with 4.5 fl oz of cooled boiled water in them. And keep pots of powder with 7 scoops in made up. Then, just boil kettle when you need to and top up bottle with boiling water up to the 7oz and chuck in pot. Voila! You just need to adjust the cooled amount to whatever fl oz you are wanting to make up.

dancemom Tue 08-Jan-13 19:11:29

Linda's Day and Night Feeder - didn't even have to get out of bed!

BikeRunSki Tue 08-Jan-13 19:11:52

I had a Fridge to Go. It's a very efficient cool bag which (the larger ones) keeps ready made bottles properly cold for 8 hours. I'd warm them up on the bathroom tap as required, although did toy with the idea of getting a cheap microwave for the baby's room. I made up a day's worth of bottles at once, and just took one or two to bed with me in the Fridge to Go. Also brilliant for days out.

bryonywhisker Tue 08-Jan-13 19:20:50

I did what the tins said at the time - took bottles of boiled water up to bed and just put powder in as needed in the cool water. Didn't heat up, sterilise the powder nuffin, oh no.

1978andallthat Tue 08-Jan-13 19:52:19

I think from what I remember last time, though I din't really remember much, that I took boiled water up in sterilised bottles and then added powder from a box I kept by the bed. So sometimes dd had it warm and sometimes cold depending on when she woke. How long until the water would go rancid though, if I boiled it 10am and, say, he didn't need it until 5am?

PickledInAPearTree Tue 08-Jan-13 19:59:59

Your not supposed to do that at all now. The powder can have bugs not the water so the water needs to be hot.

If my dc due in feb won't bf I'm ginkgo buy the big litre bottles of formula for nights.

Angelik Tue 08-Jan-13 20:00:41

We filled sterilised bottles with freshly boiled water as we went to bed. When ds woke tipped pre-measured milk powder into bottle (used the avent tubs made for when out and about) then popped bottle into electric bottle warmer for a couple of minutes whilst changing nappy. We didn't even leave the bed until he went into his own room. As long as bottles with water in are closed tight it shouldn't be a problem.

Fairylea Tue 08-Jan-13 20:02:33

Pre made a small batch with just boiled water and flash cooled in iced water and then stuck in fridge. Microwaved them till Luke warm and swirled vigorously when needed.

Not ideal no. But sanity saving.

Empross76 Tue 08-Jan-13 20:03:29

Thermos with water at correct temperature, empty bottle, measured formula in container, jug half filled with cold water.
Baby wakes - make up feed and leave to cool in jug, change baby's nappy, feed is cooled by the time this is finished.
Happy days!

PickledInAPearTree Tue 08-Jan-13 20:03:58

Fairyleas way is how they say us be very next best thing to fresh.

Empross76 Tue 08-Jan-13 20:04:08

And all done in the bedroom! No need to go downstairs at all!

1978andallthat Tue 08-Jan-13 20:05:11

Pickled do you think it's better to make up first and leave in fridge then than to make with cold water?

hazeyjane Tue 08-Jan-13 20:05:22

a mixture of cartons (microwave to warm, good shake)
and
thermos of boiling water, measure out 4 oz, add 7scoops of powder (pre measured) shake, add 3oz cooled boiled kept in bottle in coolbag/fridge. sgake

Important that water is over 70 degrees when powder is added.

Fairylea Tue 08-Jan-13 20:06:16

The most crucial point is the water has to be just boiled or around 70 degs when the powder is put in to kill the bacteria in the powder. You're not boiling the water to sterilise the water, you're doing it to get it hot enough to kill the bacteria in the powder.

Making a bottle fresh is best. Making a small batch and cooling and then putting in the fridge is second.

No one should be making bottles by adding powder to Luke warm water or water that has been left beyond 30 minutes. That is the most dangerous way to make them.

PickledInAPearTree Tue 08-Jan-13 20:12:16

Yes it's better to make up flash cool & store in back of fridge until needed.

Ok in the day but this is why I used a carton at night!

Especially when they are very tiny.

It's worse to use standing water as it won't kill any bugs presumably its no good as soon as it cools - it's a there may be bugs in the powder which isn't sterile not an issue with water.

BertieBotts Tue 08-Jan-13 20:14:10

It's not the water which is the issue, it's the powder. That's why it's safer to make up in advance than make up with cool boiled water.

Startail Tue 08-Jan-13 20:15:19

Took bottle of previously made formula out of fridge.
Shook it
Microwaved it for the correct time*
Shook it again
Checked it on back of hand
Fed DD1

I'm a scientist by training so I do confess to checking the temp of room temp and fridge temp bottles with a thermometer.

I therefore, new how long to MW milk out of fridge or powered scooped into cooled boiled water.

You aren't allowed to put powder into cooled boiled water any more, tiny risk of some sort of food poisoning as powder isn't sterile.

Startail Tue 08-Jan-13 20:17:41

But you Knew that already, because you bothered to read the rest of the thread.
blush

1978andallthat Tue 08-Jan-13 20:37:11

Thank you I had no idea it was the powder. Would boiled water in a thermos be hot enough some hours later

PickledInAPearTree Tue 08-Jan-13 20:51:48

The arse is that if the water is hot in the Thermos then you will have to cool it.

Some babies might be ok but by the time I frantically cooled it DS would be going absolutely bananas.

But I think so, it needs to be 70 degrees. You could do a trial run.

The guidelines changed (i think) when babies got gastroenteritis from the powder and I think one died.. its not a huge risk but when they are small its a worry.

They cant make the powder sterile.

I ordered HIPP Organic milk from Amazon, it wasn't hugely expensive and I used about one carton a night - I am a lazy bint though. (A safety concious lazy bint!)

SkiBumMum Tue 08-Jan-13 21:25:18

Please be really really careful with flasks/kettles in bedrooms. A friend's baby is in the burns unit for skin grafts after a sleepy middle of the night accident. hmm

LittleBearPad Tue 08-Jan-13 21:30:33

Cartons at room (or fridge) temperature for all feeds. We never warmed DD's bottles, possibly because we started bottle feeding her in a heat wave and I couldn't imagine anything worse than tepid/hot milk. Happily DD was and is quite happy with cold milk.

silverangel Tue 08-Jan-13 21:35:52

I made 24hrs worth in advance and kept them in the fridge. When DTs were tiny I used a bottle warmer to bring them up to temp. When I got more blase and they were bigger I microwaved them. The bottle warmer took 9minutes to warm up a bottle from fridge temperature - that's a long time in the middle of the night with two hungry babies!

I was watching a trashy American tv programme the other day and they were making bottles up - mineral water straight from the bottle into the baby bottle, added formula, shook and fed baby, I did wonder how their guidelines can be so different?

I'm using Hipp too and the instructions to make up te powdered formula say to wait until the water temp is 40-50 degrees to make up the feed?

youngermother1 Tue 08-Jan-13 21:59:16

made up the bottle before bed and left on night table - room temperature for feeding - not good i know blush

Strawberry, HiPP are giving advice that is not recommended by the department of health and the NHS. It is dangerous.

There's information here

1978andallthat Tue 08-Jan-13 23:09:17

The lindam day and night feeder looks great. Anyone else try that?

PickledInAPearTree Tue 08-Jan-13 23:11:34

does it heat the water to 70 degrees or just warm up a pre made bottle?

I suppose you make them up to spec and then cool in the freezer bit?

BoffinMum Tue 08-Jan-13 23:12:11

When I did use bottles I used to use cooled boiled water with the powdered milk, and the power of prayer in the hope that food poisoning didn't happen. I bf most of the time, though.

Thanks! Well it's easier for me to use boiled water then cool it down for daytime feeds anyway although I'm surprised they're allowed to put that on the carton given that the advice is different. Cartons are the only way for night time feeds for me.

have bottle on night stand, add powder and shake well when DD woke.
None of the whole sterilise this, heating the bottle at 1 am. It was Perth summer, anyway. Even the cold water had steam.

dancemom Wed 09-Jan-13 05:10:17

The Day and Night Feeder is fab, hands down best baby item I bought! You make up the bottles and it stores them chilled then when you hear baby start to stir you pop chilled bottle into the bottle warmer section and by the time baby is fully awake bottle is warmed and ready to go and you are still under your duvet grin

Secondsop Wed 09-Jan-13 08:44:12

dirtymistress keeping cooled boiled water in bottles and topping up with boiling water to get to the 70% is genius.

purpleloosestrife Wed 09-Jan-13 09:18:37

If I didn't have dairy intolerant DD and FS I would use cartons!

I make up all milks for the day in advance and keep in the fridge. I never keep in the door, though, and have a temperature alarm as occasionally if the fridge is opened a lot - it is surprising how quickly the fridge gets too warm. I make up fresh milk if this happens!

Night time milk for my new born would be kept in the Fridge to Go ( they are fantastic cooler bags!) and then I got an Avent bottle warmer off e-bay for £2.50, which did a great job at quickly taking the chill off.

Thankfully my DC now sleep through......grin

monbeausapin Wed 09-Jan-13 09:20:22

OMG have just looked at this thread out of curiosity and realised that I have no doubt poisoned my DDs as the guidelines in France were exactly those outlined by SilverAngel. No wonder they never suffer from tummy bugs - they must be resistant to everything !

appletiser Thu 10-Jan-13 13:09:42

with ds1who is now 3 i used to put boiled water in bottles and then make up as i needed but as mentioned already not supposed to do that anymore - currently putting boiled water that has cooled for about 20mins into thermos then using that at night - however still cooles down by the early moring feed - sad so sorry no help

Boop33 Thu 10-Jan-13 14:46:34

One ready made bottle of SMA first infant milk will probably do 2-3 feeds a night . Can be used room temp or warm - 79p .

Worth it !? you decide .......................xxx

But you can only use the bottle over the space of two hours once open, no?

1978andallthat Thu 10-Jan-13 16:42:12

That's nearly £300 over course of a year. Not practical for everyone.

FirstTimeForEverything Thu 10-Jan-13 16:53:48

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Panzee Thu 10-Jan-13 18:19:48

The small formula bottles/cartons are ok for 24 hours as long as they are in the fridge. Decadent it into a baby bottle and it magically only lasts 2 hours.

BertieBotts Thu 10-Jan-13 20:46:40

I thought it was 2 hours once it has been partially fed, because bacteria from the baby's mouth can make their way back into the bottle and contaminate it.

CPtart Thu 10-Jan-13 20:57:24

Made up bottles with hot water and formula, cooled in fridge then transferred to cool bag in bedroom when last adult came up to bed. Warmed with bottle warmer at bedside when needed. Voila!

bumpology Tue 22-Jan-13 17:52:40

Ive also been pondering this, so I've done some research and spoken to a microbiologist at the World Health Organisation. See: http://www.lindageddes.com/133/pouring-cold-water-on-baby-formula

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