How to stay awake during night feeds - part 5

(1000 Posts)
MrsNPattz Mon 03-Dec-12 21:19:53

Here we are grin

goat thanks, I could but am worried about putting the car seat in!

We are putting the Moses basket in the big cot tonight to start getting him used to it as he will be too big for the basket soon!!

Bed time not going well so far.......

missingmymarbles Mon 03-Dec-12 21:23:39

Marking my spot for later smile

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Mon 03-Dec-12 21:55:46

Oh thanks for the new thread mrsn..
News of the night here. I have bursitis sad Apparently of the type that is prevalent either in athletes... Or fat middle-aged women! Hmm, I wonder which category I fall into? hmm
(though in my own defence the last time I had it was after climbing a mountain! And now can't climb stairs)

Susieloo Mon 03-Dec-12 21:56:02

Marking markingsmile

funchum8am Mon 03-Dec-12 21:59:18

Thread 5! Wow, we are a chatty bunch smile

susieshock shock shock to your car experience...I hope you find a decent hire car and enjoy that wine! And a big angry to the insurance nobbers.

Thanks all for asking about babyfunch.

Doc was pretty helpful - diagnosed colic and reflux as causes of nighttime screaming and not sleeping so we are to tilt her cot, use infacol/gripe water and keep her upright for as much of the time as possible. I am to try cutting down on yoghurt, white choc (hardly ever eat it anyway), white cheeses and milk, in case it is dairy related.

Re today's poorliness he says it is probably a reaction to her jabs. I also remembered after we left the surgery that I had hot curry for the first time last night so could well be that - sil warned me about curry causing my bf niece to scream next day but I forgot!

so babyfunch is now asleep on an inclined mattress and I am trying to think what to do without latte in my life shock (i drink a couple of milky coffees a day.) She seems to be on the mend so may well just be the curry! I feel very relieved to hear that she does have colic and reflux so the nighttime stuff isn't just in my head - she really is in pain. just hope the remedies actually work. He said as she is gaining weight he doesn't want to try gaviscon straight off, which I agree with, though may ask for it if things don't improve by 12 weeks or so.

Good luck for better nights everyone.

funchum8am Mon 03-Dec-12 22:00:05

goat that sounds horrible, whatever it is...are you ok?

MrsNPattz Mon 03-Dec-12 22:02:39

I'm not sure what that is either goat?

funch glad you have a diagnosis! Fingers crossed things get easier for you now!

MrsNPattz Mon 03-Dec-12 22:05:43

This thread isn't coming up in 'I'm on' anymore on my phone so I have to go through topics, feed the world etc hmm

PearlyWhites Mon 03-Dec-12 22:07:24

Funchum am confused as to why you weren't given gaviscon as its to help with the burning pain of reflux rather than to stop them being sick, my sil is a pharmacist and recommended it for my ds and gp agreed, it helped him, although he then moved on to ranitidine which was even better.

Marking my place for later not optimistic about sleeping!

MiniPopsMum2012 Mon 03-Dec-12 22:16:46

Marking my spot, too grin

Goat - OUCH! Not good, hope you can recover quickly...

Are we still allowed to talk about food? smile

funchum8am Mon 03-Dec-12 22:18:33

pearly doc was concerned as gaviscon can cause constipation which could be just as painful as the acid reflux, and since there is no weight gain issue he was reluctant. apparently it works by thickening the stomach contents which means it is harder for baby to continue, Er, processing them, shall we say. If I could get my hands on some ranitidine I would as I have heard good things. I will be back to ask for one or the other if no improvement in a few weeks though.

funchum8am Mon 03-Dec-12 22:19:33

and welcome to the thread pearly!!

Smicha Mon 03-Dec-12 22:26:01

Marking my spot!

susie you poor thing. Glad you're all ok though. I backed into someone when pregnant and after the initial shock and tears it was just a pain in the bum, so enjoy that wine!

goat I've never heard of that ailment, can we have a description?!

mini I hope we can still talk food! I've just had apple and blackberry crumble made by mum and some m&s custard. Mmmm

funch pleased you've got a diagnosis and can take some action to relieve things.

ds has been asleep in his cot since 8:15 after feeding for an hour! It's one of the best stints he has done in there so I'm hopeful the snuffles I can hear won't escalate!

StuntNun Mon 03-Dec-12 22:26:56

Where have you got bursitis Goat? I had it all through pregnancy in both hips, I even got steroid injections for it. But after I had J they gave me anti-inflammatories due to having a section and they seem to have sorted the bursitis as well.

J has given me a thorough mauling on one nipple. I had to put a cool pack on it after feeding. He's in the other side now so FC he'll settle and give us a few hours before the next feed.

MrsNPattz Mon 03-Dec-12 22:46:48

45 minute intruder back again here!!

Yey food talk! We had our Tesco shop delivered tonight and in it was Cadbury's Oreo, popcorn and mint bubbly choc! Brought the Oreo one upstairs as I may have to sample it grin

Thank you for the new thread MrsN!

susie that's horrible about the car incident sad I hope your bruising recovers quickly.

Mini sorry MP has been unsettled again, fingers crossed he has a better night tonight.

Goat I don't know what burstitis is, but it sounds nasty. Stuntnun you had it during pregnancy? Ouch!

Just incase you were wondering where I was grin don't worry, I haven't graduated!!! DS has been generally managing about 4 hours between feeds at night, but last night slept from 9:30 to 4:30 I think, which is a big improvement for him. But of course I stupidly went to bed late and didn't see the full benefit. I think we are coming out of this latest unsettled period (I reckon it lasted about 6 weeks this time). Wonder how long until the next one? confused

On the food front, DH just gave me a big piece of disgustingly bad-for-you chocolate fudge cake - I now feel proper ill. Should have gone with my original pudding plan of a couple of chocolate hobnobs...

DS almost went splat on the floor when we were changing after swimming this morning - I caught him with his head literally 1 inch from the tiled floor shock. Total heart in mouth moment.

Hope there are better nights all round tonight

Ameybee Tue 04-Dec-12 00:04:22

Marking my place with a transfer fail sad! mrsn it doesn't come in mine 'I'm on' either - weird. Hoping for a long stretch - if I eventually get DS in the cot! Xx

missingmymarbles Tue 04-Dec-12 00:07:33

Well that's new! Just done first feed - not too bad, 11.30ish- put her down cue wriggling and eye rubbing, impending transfer failure BUT I sneaked out of the room, mainly because I needed the loo, and tired gurgling began. Annoyed that I had not switched Ewan on, I edited outside her room fully expecting crying and demanding a feed but no, I sneaked back in and turned Ewan on and lo and behold gurgling stopped and she has <whispers> self-settled!! Same as last night when I ws asleep in the chair shockshock Just need to see how long she stays asleep for. Not hopeful for a very long stint but impressed at this new development.

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Tue 04-Dec-12 00:14:21

funch great that you now have a diagnosis, now you can do something concrete. Hope things are on the mend!

stuntnun OW, bursitis in the hips sounds dire. I have it in the left knee. It's an inflammation of the bits that make it so that tissue does not rub together when moving. DH is doing bottle duty, trundling Down to the kitchen and bringing nosh back while I await sitting up in bed in regal splendour.

Foodwise DH went and did a grocery shop last thing and brought back Green & Black espresso chocolate. Dammit, I have no willpower, and I need to lose three stone... Preferably before visiting NZ next summer!

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Tue 04-Dec-12 00:16:04

Ps hello again tea, sorry you haven't graduated, but nice to see you again!

Susieloo Tue 04-Dec-12 00:28:34

Another night of the two hour sleeps, eyes are stinging, I may be addicted to mint aero bubblessmile

funch glad the dr was helpful and goat ow ow ow that sounds painful.

Was talking to my mum and dad yesterday and they are going to have babyloo overnight one night in the next few weeks, when weaning is under way, to try and give me a break, they are also suggesting that they have him all day in the next couple of weeks do I can catch up on some sleep-blisssmile

missingmymarbles Tue 04-Dec-12 00:42:19

Gah! That didn't last long at all. Feeding again.

Susie I could be addicted to mint aero easily. It's lavly! I ate too much dairy milk tonight.

Goat I told myself I wouldn't worry about my weight til weaning but I am bigger than I've ever been but am hungry all the time blush

Hello Pearly and nice to see you Smich. Even if when any of us do eventually graduate, I hope people still pop in from time to time.

Oh gosh, eyes have started stinging. Will do some more later as I am bound to be back before morning.

Thanks for sparkly bee thread, MrsN.

HeffalumpsAndWoozles Tue 04-Dec-12 01:47:50

Thanks for new thread mrsn smile

Oh gosh susie how scary I'm so glad you're all ok and you definitely deserved that glass of wine.

funch good that you got baby funch sorted at the docs, hope things improve now for you both.

goat that sounds painful can it be treated much?

Things have gone from bad to worse for us today, in short DD1 woke up straight after my last post early this morning and threw up everywhere. Then after I'd changed sheets & clothes went back to sleep until 10 when she woke up and did the same thing again. By the fifth time I was getting really worried so phoned NHS direct and told them she's been under the weather a bit with a cold and she'd had that fall on Saturday, they told me to take her straight to a&e so I rushed her there still throwing up and we then spent the next 7 hours on children's a&e being monitored and trying to get her to keep something down.

I was so lucky my sister was around and came with us so babylump was looked after and I could concentrate on DD1 as much as possible. Both girls were such stars they behaved so well but it was so horrible seeing DD1 that ill as she's such a bubbly little girl usually. They were going to put her on a cannula but luckily at the last minute she perked up a bit and the paediatrician allowed us home instead. She's not kept anything down since Sunday dinner time and has been sick another 4 times since we got home but is now tucked up in our bed with DH while babylump and I camp out downstairs. It's so difficult not being with her to cuddle bit I suppose that's the realities of life with children and I can't be everywhere at once. I know DH is perfectly capable but I still wish I could be up there too.

In short I feel crap again sad

Anyway, long post sorry. Hope all's well with everyone else now and there are long sleeps happening everywhere.

funchum8am Tue 04-Dec-12 02:13:09

heff that sounds truly awful...poor dd1 and you and DH. I am over your way tomorrow morning, do you want some company or any errands done or things dropped round?? Much sympathysad sad sad

babyfunch has slept from 7.45 to 2 shock Amazing! I have woken a couple of times to loud grunting but she never actually woke. just holding upright then going for transfer...if she stays down for a second decent stretch I will be over the moon! Can't get too excited until a few nights go the same way though, but just maybe this tilted cot has helped.

All the snacks sound lovely...I am finishing some banana and walnut cake a friend made us wink

First feed of the night-4 hours after last one. Eek FX....
That sounds awful huffle how frightening. Is LO any better? How are you? I'd be a mess. It's so difficult when they're ill, I just don't know how I'd cope.

All this chocolate talk is making me crave mint aero debates waking DH

Ameybee Tue 04-Dec-12 02:19:43

Ah heff poor DD and poor you! God I know exactly how you feel wanting to be there for both of them but it being impossible. When my DD was last ill with vomiting bug all I wanted to do was curl up with her but I needed to be upstairs with DS who was cluster feeding!

We've just only gone 2 hours - forgot how tiring that is, felt like I'd just got into a deep sleep - again.

susie a day off sounds amazing! I could so do with that but baby bee refuses bottles of expressed milk so don't think it will happen!

Hoping for smooth transfer! X

MrsNPattz Tue 04-Dec-12 02:37:34

First feed here, 3 hours so better than last night but still zzzzzzzzzz the gro egg was blue when I woke up too shock

heff oh gosh you are not having an easy time are you - sending my sympathies and hoping DD1 feels better in the morning!

Waves to tea and smicha - I often think of those who haven't posted for a while, nervous, evil, mummyv! Hope you are all getting lots of sleep grin

MrsNPattz Tue 04-Dec-12 03:12:43

Why is it now taking at least an hour at night feeds to settle him again confused

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Tue 04-Dec-12 03:39:46

heff you poor thing, and poor little DD... Sending many recovery vibes her way! What a horrible experience for you both.

Hooray for a longer stretch funch you won't know yourself!

Kid went a bit bonkers at this feed, he was so hungry. Has now calmed down enough to lie quietly without trying to rip my gullet out with those lovely little fingernails of his confused hope we can go through till morning now.

Smallgreenone Tue 04-Dec-12 04:15:30

heff that sounds rotten. Hope your dd is better very soon.
Glad the tilted cot is helping funch
We're on two hourly feeds now so an improvement on last night hourly but still rubbish. Why does it say in all the books that by 3 months babies can sleep for longer stretches at night when baby small has got worse confused clearly he's not read the book!
I had a salted caramel latte again today think I might need another one today!! They also do salted caramel profiteroles in m and a, wonder if they are any good...........

NervousAt20 Tue 04-Dec-12 05:01:23

Marking place smile I thought I'd lost you ladies I'm offline for a few days and come back to a full thread but here I am lol

I haven't caught up but skimmed and saw there's a few poorly babies sad hope their all okay and so are mummies

We're still only getting 2 hours here

missingmymarbles Tue 04-Dec-12 05:18:25

Hope things are better in the Heff household tomorrow. Your poor DD. Poor you; it's horrible when they're poorly and hired when you feel so divided too[fsad[

Hi Nervous.

Good work, Baby Funch and baby Elvis grin

Small, Salted caramel anything is yummy, although I don't like coffee, would quite like some salted caramel nuts mmmmm

Amazingly, after shinanigans last feed. We've just done just over 4 hours and a smooth transfer. Hopefully well get to a reasonable hour now and this is a sign of things to come.

StuntNun Tue 04-Dec-12 05:23:01

Feeds at 10:30, 1:45 and 4:45. Looking good for some sleep at least although I could do with a little bit more!

NervousAt20 Tue 04-Dec-12 06:09:27

I thought we were going to have a good night BabyN went 4 hours then 2 hours then 1 hour and 1 hour <stingy eyes emotion>

Susieloo Tue 04-Dec-12 06:48:48

heff what a nightmare for you, hope dd1 feels better soon and manages to keep some food down, what a worry for you.

Now unless I am going completely mad, babyloo has just slept from half twelve until now- I don't think there has been a feed in between, he was stirring at two but I decided he wasn't hungry because it was only two hours since last feed so I put his projector on and he must have nodded back off. He's happily talking to himself in his cot, this is a very definite first and apart from him being involved in a minor car crash I am not sure what I have done differently!! he definitely wasn't injured, my mum and dads neighbor is a paramedic and he checked us both over. Perhaps he realized mummy needed some sleep after a traumatic day!!

Coffee timesmile

Susieloo Tue 04-Dec-12 06:56:36

small I love salted caramel anything, nigella does a really easy salted caramel sauce that goes really well over ice cream or eaten straight from the saucepan

MrsNPattz Tue 04-Dec-12 07:59:33

Well he just went 4 hours which is much better than last night! However hubby had to wake me before he went to work to put my eye drops in so my 4 hours was disrupted! Never mind, still an improvement.

Waves to nervous

I'm not sure if this is up for the day, hope not! We have students coming to talk to us today, our drs surgery phoned a few weeks ago and were looking for woman who had just had a baby to talk to first year medical students about how life has changed - hope they have all day!! Haha

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Tue 04-Dec-12 08:10:33

I could get used to this, having bottles magically appear from the deepest recesses of the kitchen, having it handed to me along with a baby, feeding, then dropping gently back to sleep... Only downside is that the snacks remain resolutely in the deepest recesses. Although maybe that is a good thing!

mrsn your last bit really made me laugh!

heff how is your DD today?

susie you have a considerate baby at the mo! Hope it lasts!

I want salted caramel now...

Kid has found his feet! Very cute.

Baby elvis has decided to progress from two to four hourly wakings shock amazing how much better i feel on four hours sleep and amazing how little sleep I actually need! Long may it last but I am very hmm of you susie. Did u manage to sleep too? I'd have been awake checking LO was still breathing lol!
DD still sleeping but I'm awake so may get up.....

Ameybee Tue 04-Dec-12 10:11:41

OMG just had grocery shop delivered - DS was in his tilt back chair in kitchen and the delivery man banged his leg with a crate! He cried but only briefly but I am all stressed and upset- I should've warned them he was behind doorway. I feel terrible sad there's only a tiny red mark on his leg but its a horrid feeling. X

MrsNPattz Tue 04-Dec-12 11:16:31

amey I have had one of those moments today - I was nibbling his nails because they are too long and dirty and I have ripped one too short sad his little finger is red and his nail looks sore sad feel horrendously guilty!

The students have just left - they were really nice and it just felt like chatting rather than me being asked questions. Little man was so good, I think they must have left with the wrong impression of motherhood lol

susie so glad you had a good night finally!

blonderthanred Tue 04-Dec-12 11:52:00

Hello, have been awol as have just been too exhausted to update!

DS still hasn't pooed since Thursday and wasn't sleeping more than 1/2 an hr at a time before screaming (and only on us) but seems much calmer now so maybe he is just using everything he is eating! Last night he slept 12-3 and 5-7 in cot so I feel much better. GP is happy that all sounds & feels well in his tummy, gave me a prescription for suppositories but said not to use them unless he is in obvious discomfort. She thought maybe the Infacol had slowed him down so we have stopped that. Still a bit worried but just going to concentrate on massaging out any trapped wind and keep feeding. If he hasn't gained weight at tomorrow's appt then might have to rethink.

Sounds like there has been progress for some but difficulties for others. Susie the car crash must have been scary but nice 'side effect' of a long sleep - don't think anyone should try it as a technique though.

heff and funch sorry you've had such difficult times but hope both your LOs are on the mend now. mrsn why do babies always make out to the rest of the world that they are perfectly behaved, snoozing angels?!

Waves to amey, goat, Elvis, Stunt and others...

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Tue 04-Dec-12 12:14:31

mrsn that's called the cuteness reflex - they do it every time!

<waves back at blonder>

HeffalumpsAndWoozles Tue 04-Dec-12 12:50:19

Well our night wasn't as bad as I feared, once DD1 was upstairs she fell asleep straight away and didn't wake up again until 6 when she had a cup of water and slept again until half 10. I crept up there with babylump at 7 so DH could leave and get to work so we got to have a lovely snuggly few hours until they both woke up. She's had another cup of water and two bites of banana and so far its all stayed down so I'm feeling really relieved.

funch that's so kind of you thank you smile but I'd hate for baby funch to catch DDs virus so we're going to stay in quarantine until she's totally back to normal. To top it off babylump is sounding very chesty and isn't quite herself so we're going to the docs later for her. Then I am officially banning the pair of them from getting even remotely ill ever again, I can't cope with it!

Great to hear of the good sleeps susie and elvis long may it continue smile

Ah well done kid on finding his feet! That opens up so many new foot and toe chewing opportunities!

Oh no amey that must have been a horrible feeling, at least your DS is ok and has probably forgotten all about it by now. There's always something to feel guilty/stressed/upset about with DCs though isn't there sad

funchum8am Tue 04-Dec-12 14:54:08

welcome back blonder

After a good first stretch last night we fed at 2 then I kept her upright but asleep on me til 3, thinking the tilted cot had sorted things....HOW NAIVE!! she slept for precisely 24 mins sad. So then we were up another hour feeding and winding and she was wide awake so at half four DH took her downstairs for the usual bouncy chair nap and failed attempt at bottle feeding. when they came up again at 6ish I suggested he bring the bottle and try giving her it in bed, and she guzzled the lot shock confused

so things are better but not fixed. it is sooo annoying as I suspect she'd be a great sleeper without the reflux! but then I wouldn't have met all you lovely ladiessmile

heff how are things?

MrsNPattz Tue 04-Dec-12 15:34:20

Has anyone been watching one born every minute - what happened next - on more 4? I'm sat balling my eyes out at the little boy who got Meningitis at 2 weeks old causing him to have Cerebral Palsy! Cuddling my little fella so tight cause it breaks my heart thinking of anything happening to him! Must be the tiredness lol

blonderthanred Tue 04-Dec-12 15:43:29

mrsn I am not watching it but know exactly what you mean, I sobbed at the end of the Barnardo's ad yesterday which ends with the little boy saying he is scared, just clutched at DS and told him he would never feel like that. It is so overwhelming isn't it?

funch sorry things aren't quite fixed but hopefully you can find things that make life easier over time.

We had a massive poosplosion mid-bf workshop, quite relieved. Two more since then! Hope this leads to good sleeping tonight...

Ameybee Tue 04-Dec-12 19:00:39

How weird mrsn I watched that at weekend and sobbed my heart out! Same name as my little boy too!That couple were amazing tho, it could've torn them apart but they were so strong! I cry at everything at mo! Awful cot death storyline on home & away this week - cue more sobbing! Being a mummy just makes u so emotional!
Baby bee has been very good with naps today - hoping its not a one off! Although getting him to sleep when DD is around in day is a mare - she's so noisy bless her grin! Xx

Ameybee Tue 04-Dec-12 19:23:07

And blonder you are right it is so overwhelming! You just know you'd fight to the death to protect your babies! Going to hug my too extra hard tonight, I'm very lucky xxx

MrsNPattz Tue 04-Dec-12 19:24:04

amey yes they were fantastic! What a lovely little boy! I knew that storyline was coming up on Home and away as I like it on Facebook and the Australian one must be ahead of ours, so I stooped watching weeks ago because I couldn't handle it!

Is anyone else's app on iPhone really rubbish since the update? It keeps saying this thread has no replies and not loading and stuff!

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Tue 04-Dec-12 20:49:24

Oh, I can't watch OBEM, it does for me too completely blush even the happy stories.
Just finished a bedtime feed for Kid. Will try transfer shortly.

Wishing everyone a good night... Though we will probably all be back at some point!!

HeffalumpsAndWoozles Tue 04-Dec-12 22:56:48

I just have to start this post off by saying AAARRRrrrggGGGggg!!

<takes deep breath and calms down>

So, the next instalment in the soap opera that has become my life is that DD1 has been amazing and by the end of the day managed her favourite meal and custard for pudding, all stayed down and apart from being a little pale and tired she's almost back to normal so I am hugely relieved.

But (there's always got to be a fecking "but" hasn't there sad ) the appointment I had for babylump this afternoon ended in the GP referring us straight to a&e with suspected whooping cough. I couldn't believe it, had a bit of a meltdown, and after making sure DD1 was ok (watching endless Peppa pig with grandad!) rushed back to hospital trying not to panic. Dr phoned ahead to tell them we were coming so we wouldn't have to wait but when we arrived there was a really big emergency so we did end up with a 2.5 hr wait. Babylump was really good and once we got seen by the paediatrician they were very thorough and, thank god, it is just a throat infection after all.

I am totally drained now, feeling so lucky that the two potential emergencies we've had this last two days have both turned out to be ok but also all emergency-ed out and exhausted.

Just got home now, DD1 asleep and babylump feeding and complaining about how tired she is (and obviously its my fault she's not yet asleep hmm ) So, who's for wine ?!

Susieloo Tue 04-Dec-12 23:08:28

heff arrrrrggghhhhh is right after the day you have had, what a nightmare and I'm so pleased its a throat infection!! Hope you have had an enormous drink and a chance to relax this evening.

I am on first feed of the night, he was starting to stir so I'm attempting a dream feed which so far is going ok. We are off to see two car dealerships tomorrow to try and sort out a new car - well probably a used car.

mrsn my iPhone app is exactly the same, I'm hoping its just some bugs that need fixing and then it will start behaving.

I have just managed to eat a handful of mint aero bubblesgrin

Hope everyone happily asleep or heading there soon.

funchum8am Tue 04-Dec-12 23:13:53

heff!!! you totally deserve your spirits, chocolate, cake, ice cream and anything else you might fancy just now! that must have been really scary, thank god it isn't whooping cough. shock That must have been extremely stressful. Well done dd1 and well done grandad.

I went to bed at 7:45 with babyfunch in her bouncy chair to keep her upright for a few extra hours. she is feeding now then will transfer to cot. The thinking is that the less time she spends on her back, the later she will wake, if it is reflux causing her pain. If it is colic this won't make any difference though sad

We have had a fab day - babyfunch came to my friend's school so her Psychology A level group could ask me about attachment, as they have been studying theories on parent-child attachment. I got a bit worried the girls were getting quite keen on having babies soon as she was being all cute so countered it with a few home truths about what labour does to your bladder, haemorrhoids, pain of labour, sleep deprivation etc...think many of them (esp boys) were shocked at this lady coming in and going totally TMI on them grin

Smallgreenone Tue 04-Dec-12 23:16:47

Oh gosh heff get that wine poured! Thank goodness though that it wasn't whooping cough and at least your gp isn't one of those that fobs you off all the time like some do.
I can't watch obem either, way too emotional at the moment.
We had a great surprise today. Doorbell went this morning, am expecting some new slippers to be delivered so was hugely surprised to see a man with an enormous box from fortnum and mason! Sooooooo much better than new slippers! It's a pressie from someone DH works with, well we presume it is, there is no name to say who it's from which is odd but it is packed full of delicious treats:- chocolate, wine, port, nuts, cheese all things Christmas and delicious basically! Yum yum! We normally get some good stuff from dh's work but he's just set up his own company so I thought we might get forgotten this year but perhaps not. I shall now eagerly await more delivery men bearing scrumptious gifts!
Releasing sleepy mice and attempting transfer........

missingmymarbles Tue 04-Dec-12 23:56:21

Poor Missmarbles has resisted mapping for all bar 45 mins this afternoon and was so tired come 5 o'clock. Managed to keep her awake til bedtime. Had to pop up briefly at 8 but otherwise first feed. She's just taken a heeeuuge feed (felt like it anyway) so hopefully next one will be at 5ish, like last night but without the hours dancing that resulted in a settling feedhmm

Rotten day, Heff. Hope you sleep well tonightsmile

Blonder, Amey, MrsN and Goat I won't watch stuff like that now. I used to be 'ard as nails grin

Smich very nice surprisegrin

Susie please can you ask Babyloo to pass on the codewink

Ameybee Tue 04-Dec-12 23:57:23

heff you def deserve a break now! That is a rough few days!! Always best to be safe with whooping cough on the increase tho. I'm meeting my friend from work for lunch Tomo & I had said I'd take baby bee into work but I'm a bit paranoid about taking him into a hospital full of germs confused people will prob think I'm over reacting but I just would never want to risk babybee catching anything. Thought if it rained I could leave him in pram with raincover on - maybe that will keep out germs wink!
Looking forward to a nice Starbucks lunch hmm peppermint hot choc and a marmite n cheese panini!

Ps didn't lose weight this week - stayed same but we did have kfc and prezzo and I prob wasn't entirely truthful with my tracking confused x

StuntNun Wed 05-Dec-12 00:54:13

Glad to hear it was a false alarm about the whooping cough Heff, I hope she gets better soon.

I'm on the first feed of the night but it's very difficult to feed a baby who's kicking his legs, arching his back, beating with his arms, turning his head, and mauling my nipple without latching on. Man I am beyond tired hmm

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Wed 05-Dec-12 01:08:52

heff shock what a truly, truly awful scare for you!thank goodness it wasn't whooping cough after all, tho a throat infection sounds bad enough. You have had enough drama for at least another year or so. Wine definitely needed!

funch grin to your contraceptive talk...

small now that is proper food porn, that is!

amey They do peppermint?? I feel a detour coming on tomorrow after massage...

susie marbles Stunt finger crossed for nice long sleeps till morning.

Zzzzzzzz... Going for transfer....

First feed of the night here. Am seriously jealous of the food talk... Particularly the F&M delivery. Going into bath later so I'm going to get something realllllllly good and disgustingly sweet to counteract the jealousy I'm feeling!

Ameybee Wed 05-Dec-12 02:09:34

Yep goat its the syrup so you can have it in mocha too! I love them!

Only gone 2 hours between last feeds sad feel super tired. Please do a 3 hour now at least!

I'm getting hungry now, my delicious sausage casserole has long since been digested - could do with some shacks now!

heff read my last post back n it sounds insensitive - sorry, didn't mean hospitals are germ boxes when you've been in one last 2 days just meant didn't want to risk taking a healthy baby in just to socialise & not because they are poorly & need to be there xx

funchum8am Wed 05-Dec-12 02:15:06

stunt that is helpful of your LO...sometimes they don't seem to know what is good for them!

elvis do you have a tub full of food. or do you live in the south west? grin

babyfunch feeding her usual 2am feed but has been making refluxy noises in her sleep so I suspect the bouncy chair stint earlier has made no difference sad

Good luck for sound sleeping everyone!

Loup23 Wed 05-Dec-12 03:40:30

Evening all so glad I've found you, marking my place and will catch up now before updating grin

Smallgreenone Wed 05-Dec-12 03:42:28

Well instead of two hourly waking he's just done a 4 hour stretch- woo hoo! I got three hours as he did have a brief waking up which needed Ewan going back on and dummy goinig in but what an improvement! grin I won't get too hopeful but if we can just get until morning........
amey know what you mean about taking them into work one of the girls I work with grabbed him for a cuddle and then started to say how she didnt feel well, I practically snatched baby small back from her.
Sharing round one of my delicious new chocolate bars.......

MrsNPattz Wed 05-Dec-12 04:22:09

Wow little fella just did 8:30 til now!! That's the earliest he has ever gone to bed! I got to sleep at about 9:30 and woke at 3:50 to a very large, leaking sore right boob so was hand expressing over the sink when he woke up blush so for the first time I was actually very pleased he was awake! I am feeling a bit rubbish as if I am getting a cold so am hoping it's not mastitis - but I felt like this yesterday so don't think it is.

heff I just don't know what to say! Sending lots of love, hugs, wine, chocolate and sleepy mice!

susie glad it's not just mine, hopefully MN are aware and will get it fixed!

<waves to everybody else>

Susieloo Wed 05-Dec-12 04:48:08

Half 11 until now-woop woop!!! Unfortunately because dp is a knob sometimes and I am a stewer I've been unable to sleep all that time which is massively frustrating, really hoping my magic projector will work wonders when I attempt transfer.

Talking of poorlyitis dss is with us tonight with the most horrendous sore throat and he woke up at 12 to throw up, I am now really regretting the goodnight kiss from dss to babyloo, no idea why I didn't think about it at the time.

Transfer attempted, need projector to work because he is wide awake!

Brrrrrrr its cold tonight

MrsNPattz Wed 05-Dec-12 05:05:58

Little man just fed for 25 mins on my poorly boob so it doesn't feel poorly any more - Yey! However he obviously took too much as we just had a massive spewy resulting in a half naked me with only my dressing gown for modesty as all my clothes are in the room where hubby is sleeping, a stripped bed and a changed little man - not so Yey! Ho hum you can't have it all grin

susie hope you are ok!

Ameybee Wed 05-Dec-12 05:10:08

Transfer fail confused. Wow mrsn that's fab - I think my boob would actually explode if baby bee went that long! I really hope he goes that long one day... Please!! X

MrsJingleBells74 Wed 05-Dec-12 05:15:59

We're on our third feed of the night. He was down to one night feed but then I went & jinxed it by telling people how well he was sleeping confused

StuntNun Wed 05-Dec-12 05:35:22

I think this had been the worst night since the first one home from hospital. After J woke at 12:39 he was awake for a couple of hours restless and seeming to be in pain. DH lost the plot because he has important meetings tomorrow so eventually I brought baby into bed where he slept for three hours. Not so good for me though as I was perched in the very edge of the bed with not enough duvet to cover me. I also kept stirring to check J had wriggled under the covers. Bloomin' DH woke up half an hour ago and moved J to his cot where of course he started crying again. He was happy in bed cuddled up with me and he was in the right position for a feed if he wanted one so I wish DH hadn't moved him. To add insult to injury DH is snoring away.

StuntNun Wed 05-Dec-12 05:36:39

Sorry if less than coherent. Two hours sleep does that to me.

funch mmm bath of good sounds great but, no, I'm in the wWest Country
Sounds like. Mixed bag tonight. Major poosplosion just now. Poo everywhere and now a wide awake baby! Gah!
<hands round matchsticks for those that are awake>

MrsNPattz Wed 05-Dec-12 09:10:30

Well we won't be going anywhere today - woken up to thick snow!! Will have to go to clinic to get him weighed next week, I have asked the lady who runs baby massage to give the other lady my number if she wants to stay in touch, and I was going to make a drs appointment to get a referral about my eyes but that can wait!

Can't you believe baby Pattz is still sleeping! That's over 12 hours in his bed with one wake up!! Unfortunately I was awake more than that, and of course I'm a bit worried rather than overjoyed blush

There seems to be a lot of baby J's on this thread - I have a baby J too smile

StuntNun Wed 05-Dec-12 11:24:48

His name's James but we call our other kids by their initials too so J (or perhaps Jay) will be his nickname. So in my case it's legit!

funchum8am Wed 05-Dec-12 12:20:25

Seems to have been a very mixed night! We put babyfunch to sleep in bouncy chair at 7 and she slept there til 11pm feed, and then went til 2 in crib but screamed the moment I put her back after the 2am feed, so I brought her into bed with us. she still cried a bit on and off but putting boob into her mouth worked every time but also meant I still got no sleep til DH took her downstairs about half four, bless him. So she and I stayed in bed til 10:30 feeding and dozing - bliss! I wish the tilted cot plan had worked but you can't win them all sad

Ameybee Wed 05-Dec-12 14:13:27

Naff night after the early morning transfer fail! Nipped into work & wished I hadn't confused nothing has changed and I know I will not want to go back in July. I know its ages away but it will go quick sad. If money wasn't a problem i would love to do another degree, always wanted to be a midwife really but 2 kids and bills to pay might not make it an easy decision but I might look into it. X

MrsJingleBells74 Wed 05-Dec-12 14:19:37

I thought with my firstborn that there was no way I'd want to go back to work, but when the time came I was more than ready. But I only went back part time, I'm sure full time would have been more difficult.

MrsNPattz Wed 05-Dec-12 15:57:07

Ladies, I have been worrying all day that I have mastitis! After my boob incident in the night I have been feeling more and more rotten all day. Achy, weak, cold but skin feeling hot and just generally unwell. The thing is it's not sore when he feeds and I don't think there are any red patches! I took paracetamol and ibuprofen not long ago and feel much better! Do you think it's maybe just a cold/flu? I should maybe see a dr tomorrow but it's going to be difficult to get out with the snow and my car is being MOT'd at the moment. Thanks in advance for any advice.

pattz what is feeding like? Any pain? Fever? It could be "just" a cold but you're probably best to get checked out.
I successfully bf'd in public for the first time with the help of a tit cape! Hurrah! Enjoyed mooching around bath too so grin. A good day. Now to entice DD to sleep through.....

Smallgreenone Wed 05-Dec-12 18:31:03

mrsn it didn't really hurt when I fed when I had mastitis either and my boob wasn't red (olive skinned though so maybe wouldn't have shown up hmm), are there any hard areas on the boob? I would say as you can't get to the dr today that if your symptoms have gone tomorrow then its a cold and of they have got worse then its mastitis. Hope it's a cold mastitis is really not nice.
Been soooooooo cold here today, gorgeous and sunny but super cold. Had to treat myself to a hot chocolate with whipped cream and marshmallows it was that cold! Have been rather emotional today and cried at a tv advert (can't remember which one but crying at adverts I mean really get a grip) also cried as one of my friends has sent baby small the sweetest Christmas gift, don't know quite why I cried as its a lovely thing must be weird baby hormones!

missingmymarbles Wed 05-Dec-12 18:33:22

Evening all.

Had a good night, all things considered, last night. Was up three times between 8 and 8, but the main improvement was the successful transfers and I think she's beginning to self-settle. I'm in no way smug, as its only been one night, although I think the self settling began the night before.

We're just doing bedtime feeds now. DD1 at church youth club. When everyone in and settled, DH and I are going to watch a DVD.

MrsN, there's some nasty bugs about. I hope it's just a cold and not mastitis but I hope you're not poorly with it.

Are you a nurse, Amey? I am and I really don't want to go back to the ward I was on (in March, taking into account annual leave<sob>sad) and am desperately looking for a new job. I didn't feel as bad going back after DD1 because I liked where I was. I mean, going back to work sucked but it was ok going back there. I haven't been in since Missmarbles was born and have serious ostrich disease about KiT days as I feel like it will hasten my return sadsad

MrsNPattz Wed 05-Dec-12 18:44:21

It is Mastitis sad I stopped being an idiot and got off my bum cause there is a red patch so I phoned the surgery who asked me to go down. The dr has prescribed me antibiotics and I'm feeling very sorry for myself! I know someone else on here had it, was it smicha? Have you been ok since?

Thanks for your input elvis and well done on the public breast feeding - I haven't been brave enough to do that yet!

MrsNPattz Wed 05-Dec-12 18:45:55

Oh small sorry it was you who had it!

Ameybee Wed 05-Dec-12 19:49:07

I'm a radiographer marbles its a really small team where I work and there's some ahem strange dynamics bitchiness and power struggles which I struggle to deal with confused. Don't know about you but I think morale in the nhs is low anyway. I will be going back 2.5 days like I've done since DD was born, maybe things will of changed by then.

mrsn wishing you a super speedy recovery! Glad u went today! How long you on antibiotics for? Hope they work quick!

Sleepy dust to everyone!

Ps quote of day from DD, she told my sister in law
'I'm just really annoyed with baa baa (her sheep) auntie Sarah, he just will not sleep through!!'
Going to be careful what I say blush x

Smallgreenone Wed 05-Dec-12 20:50:25

Oh no mrsn you poor love. It was me who had it recently although a sure others on here have had it too. It's so awful. You have to feed feed feed from the bad side but don't forget the other side as otherwise that one might go bad too! The antibiotics will work fast and the fluey feeling will be gone by tomorrow I would think but takes longer to clear the sore boob. Hot baths are nice and you're supposed to massage it but I found it too sore to do that and just fed. It's been ok since but I am paranoid about getting it so if baby small hasn't fed in a while I express anyway just in case god knows what I'll do when he starts weaning, I might be expressing for life for fear of mastitis!
Yay for self settling marbles Baby small can self settle too when he chooses too he now goes down awake at 7 and 11 but he does have to be really sleepy and a bad transfer can make him too awake to do it so I still have to be uber careful and he still won't self settle after his late feed which I find odd as he can at the other too. He also can't do it in the day at nap times, or won't do it I'm not sure which hmm!

Smallgreenone Wed 05-Dec-12 20:51:38

Two obviously not too

funchum8am Wed 05-Dec-12 21:06:46

mrsn well done for getting it checked out....hopefully the ABs will do their thing quickly. Lots of sympathy from over here!

yay for self settling marbles!

Does anyone have a regular time of day when they express? I was doing about 9pm when babyfunch had been asleep for a few hours, but a bit before 10:30 feed so boobs could refill. however I now want to get to bed more like 7.30 to help me cope with her being up from 2am every flipping night, so need to move it, but since she is demand fed still, I never know when there will be enough time between feeds sad Today I expressed at 11:30 thinking she wouldn't want to feed for a bit but she did soon after and kept pulling off and crying. I think this was frustration at not getting much out. I offered both sides but got same response. Then she cried for a feed all afternoon but kept being really fussy when I fed her.

How long does it take for boobs to get a bit more full so she can have a decent feed...? Also worried my supply will suffer if I move my regular expressing time but I am soooo tired by 9pm!
sorry this is rambling...ignore if you can't make sense of it!

MrsNPattz Wed 05-Dec-12 21:20:24

Thank you all for your wishes! I need to take the antibiotics four times a day for 7 days, on an empty stomach (god knows how I will manage that as my stomach is never empty haha). small thanks so much for the advice! I'm already paranoid about getting it again and this one hasn't even gone yet! All I could think was I really don't want to stop breast feeding, please don't make me confused I know what you mean about expressing forever, I'm not looking forward to eventually stopping breast feeding! I hope you are right and the 'flu' has gone tomorrow - although since I took the paracetamol and ibuprofen I do feel a bit better so will take some more before bed.

funch I don't have any advice I'm afraid as I'm not a keen expresser, but when I have done it I have tended to do it a while after a feed so the boob is full and then offer the other boob for the next feed (ie just express from one but this isn't helpful if you don't get enough from one sorry blush)

marbles clever mini marbles on the self settling! Please could she teach baby Pattz lol

Hope heff has had a better day today! winethanks

Ameybee Wed 05-Dec-12 21:29:23

Had babybee weighed this morning & didn't think much of it as midwife was in a rush but just looked in his book and he's only gained 5oz in 3 weeks sad he's had quite a bad cold for last week but I don't feel like he's fed any less. Now I feel really upset and worried that he's not getting enough milk plus my periods returned today which makes me think he's not taking enough milk. He's really content and looks to be thriving, is 11 weeks Tomo x

MiniPopsMum2012 Wed 05-Dec-12 22:22:54

oh Heff sad enjoy your wine...

MRsN hope you're feeling better, and the antibiotics kick in soon

Amey ahhh, bless your DD grin, and re weight as long as he's gaining and he's doing ok try not to worry, speak to HV next time he's weighed maybe? (although my HV is crap!)

Marbles Yay for self settling and successful transfers!

Hey, everyone else... hope you've all had a good day? Did anyone get snow? We did, took me completely by surprise.. was meant to go to NCT meet this morning, so was all wrapped up and ready to go
when Minipop decided to projectile vomit everywhere, so by time that was all cleared up and we were all changed it was too late - gutted, we've only just moved to a new area so have no family here and not made any friends yet, so rely on the baby groups to get out and about and meet people..
Unfortuantely, as we've had a few bouts of sickness I've not been there enough to make coffee buddies yet, so was really hoping to do that today sad bah!

What on earth will I do over Xmas hols? :-/

Anyhoo, We had an ok-ish night, went from about 11pm to around 6am, however I still wake up at 4am even when he doesn't need feeding - arrgh!

Not sure what sort of night we'll have tonight, lets see... sleepy mouse dust to you all.. grin

mrsn sorry you've got mastitis but well done for nipping it in the bud so quickly!
my mum currently trying to settle mini elvis as my routine seems to have failed tonight dammit. She's still awake and trying to wear my nipple down. It's going to be a long night....

MrsN someone I know suggested feeding from above, sort of dangling overhead, if that is physically possible! confused Gravity helping the flow and everything... Hope it clears up quickly.

Funch any chance of expressing off one side while feeding off the other? It is a bit logistically challenging, but I do this at the first feed after we get up in the morning (and again throughout the day if I'm trying to build up enough for a bottle) - having the letdown stimulated by DS feeding on the other side produces a much greater yield than me pumping on my own.

Minipopsmum sorry about the megavom sad but pleased the sleeping is going well at the moment.

DS is having mega teething issues again. I can see the bottom ones are getting ever closer to appearing, but please can they just come through already?! Three and a half months he has been complaining for... I gave him calpol at 8pm but he's just woken up screaming again and I can't give him another dose until midnight sad poor baby

Oh and DH is being an arse again angry he moaned when I asked him to get the pizzas out of the oven when the timer went, as he bought them, when I pointed out that I sort out dinner 90% of the time (if not more) - this then lead to a discussion argument where he again asserted his view that since he works all day and I'm at home, he shouldn't have to do any housework angry. If there was anyway I could leave him with DS all day so he could see how much work it is... And he doesn't even appreciate that without me there would be no food in the fridge, no clean dishes and glasses, no clean clothes to wear. He is so infuriating!

MiniPopsMum2012 Wed 05-Dec-12 23:33:15

Oh tea it must be something in the air as my DP is being an unbelievable arse this week and if he moans about being tired once more I think I will pinch him very hard grin

Sorry the teeth are playing up still. Fingers crossed they are through soon

HeffalumpsAndWoozles Thu 06-Dec-12 00:02:11

Evening everyone <wonders in clutching large glass of Pinot>

We had a fantastically uneventful day today, hurrah!! grin Both DDs are pretty much back to their normal selves, excepting a few snotty noses and grizzles. We had a drs appt this morning that I'd booked last week for babylump's belly button as she has umbilical granuloma (sp?!) so has needed a few zaps of silver nitrate to get it to heal up. The doctor was lovely and although we hadn't seen him yesterday he knew what had happened and asked if everything was ok now. He agreed that in some situations wine is definitely medicinal grin

DD1 & I made the angel for the top of the Christmas tree today which was fun, although I will be finding glitter in odd places for months I think. Then DH came home mid afternoon as work's slow at his place and he's managed to get tomorrow off so we can go to Cornwall a day early. Really excited to see the ILs, SIL and our little 5 month old nephew. His christening is on Sunday so we'll leave tonight and get there early tomorrow and have lots of time to see everyone. Only downside is knowing babylump doesn't usually let me get to bed before 1am and DH wants to leave here at 2am so I'll be a little tired I think!

amey your post didn't come across insensitive at all don't worry about that! I totally get what you mean about not wanting a healthy baby in a building full of sick people! I wonder if that's why babylump got ill as she'd had to spend the entire previous day in there with DD1 so could have caught anything!

elvis well done on feeding in public, its not half as bad as you imagine once you've done it is it. And think of all the extra coffee and cake you can have now without worrying about getting back in time for feeds!

funch how is baby funch's reflux tonight?

Oh no poor you mrsn hope the antibs kick in really quickly.

I think I've just written another mammoth post so will catch up on everything else later. <waves to everyone I've missed>

Susieloo Thu 06-Dec-12 00:03:45

1st feed of the night which will be out second night of attempting to dream feed.

Hope you feel better soon mrsn and fun I was always advised to express in the morning but apart from that I'm not very helpful. One thing I have noticed with babyloo is that on the last feed before bed I used to break his latch when I thought he was just comfort sucking but I've noticed now that if I leave him to it then he prompts a second let down and then I get active swallowing again so I can get more milk into him.

My dp wins the biggest arse award for being unable to control his temper and banging around in the kitchen underneath babyloo's cot therefore waking him up-this was yesterday and he was in a strop because the bread was difficult to butter!!!!! actually he was really in a strop because of the car accident but took it out on a loaf of bread and the kitchen-knobhead.

We are at mum and dads tonight aka the fridge because dss has been off school today with tonsillitis and I'm so paranoid that babyloo will get it.

I've just has to turn the low output plug in radiator off because the temp was up to 19 degrees but it feels too cold in here already, we are expecting the temperature to drop to -7 tonight because we are out in the sticks.

Hope everyone asleep and warmsmile

missingmymarbles Thu 06-Dec-12 00:09:27

Missmarbles has barely slept again today and went to get at 6.40. For the first time ever there was no intruder and she's still asleep shock I have been up several times to check in her and the monitor us nearly on full volumeconfused I think she is just finally sorting everything out but I'm a bit shock and really hoping she isn't coming down with something. She has been fine today, just tired by teatime.

MrsN hope the ABs get you sorted quickly.

On phone so apologies for not proper name checking.

About day time naps - she doesn't self settle then. Rather she sings and grins (which is probably shy she's knackered nowgrin). Also who knows if its going to be a regular thing or if its just a one off.

About expressing - I am truly crap. I was so going to be organised and do it each day but she feeds loads do they're never full enough to get a worthwhile amount out. I have got a couple of ounces tonight because if her still sleeping and I will in the morning while she's feeding if I can manoeuvre it. Baby will always be able to get some out even if you can't express it, or even after you've expressed.
Boo to return of periods. Sometimes it happens though, and not necessarily a reflection of milk supply.

DH and I watched a film this evening an at home date night after both DDs were in bed. I then sort of started waiting for Missmarbles to wake up so I haven't made the most of it and been asleep yet, and she surely won't be too much longer. Must sleep now though, but I will no doubt be back again shortlysmile

Isn't Babyloo sleeping better, Susie? They really do have a starlight bark going on between them, don't they?grin

missingmymarbles Thu 06-Dec-12 00:11:18

Ooh x-posts Susie!

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Thu 06-Dec-12 00:12:37

Hello, here we are at first feed after Kid has slept practically all day, just waking for feeds and the massage class. I really expected bright-eyed and bushy-tailed at this point, but no, he is off to sleep again! He has had a really rotten cold, so maybe is sleeping it off.
Sorry if I don't name check everyone, (juggling bottle, Velcro baby who Also wants to play with his feet even in the middle of feeding, and iPad) but mrsn sad about the mastitis! Really hope it clears up soon. Sorry too to those having dp issues - I hope you added broken nights to the mix too! I have to admit to having a wonderful DH who thinks that never mind what I do during the day, I do quite a lot of my shift at night, so evenings and weekends should be pretty even.
minipop you are in south London, right? I heard you had snow down there! Are there any other baby groups you can go to before Christmas?
We had our last massage class today. Kid really enjoyed it and had a surprising tolerance to a full body massage. We took a photo of all the babies lying as the spokes of a wheel, and it did tug on my heart strings that Kid still looks tiny and kind of transparent next to the full termers. I think of him as such a solid little lump in comparison to what he was!
Food porn moment - I made baileys and white chocolate fudge. Mmmmmm...

MrsNPattz Thu 06-Dec-12 01:49:57

First feed here and I'm feeling awful, really could have done with more sleep and was up only an hour ago for the toilet so expressed a bit from poorly boob. However it's probably a good thing he's up to have a feed from that boob, although I will probably have to express from other boob as he has fallen asleep and I don't want the other one to get poorly. Sorry for rambling!

heff Yey for uneventful day! Hope you have a safe journey and a lovely time - hopefully you will find time to post but if not speak to you when you are back.

amey I think their weight gain slows down as the weeks go on, and I'm sure they would have said something had they been worried!

mini we have had awful snow - Aberdeen - so will be house bound for a few days as i have never driven in the snow (only passed my test in March and not a very confident driver) but that's probably a good thing so I can rest in laws will have to come to me instead of me making the effort all the time

I hope there are some good nights, and sorry for all if the insensitive DH's - they really are a different breed aren't they!!

Ameybee Thu 06-Dec-12 02:02:33

We are having a very unsettled night here sad took until 1130 to settle him - latest he's gone down in ages and am up again now - first transfer fail. Just hope this isn't a sign I don't have enough milk. DH has been very supportive because I was really upset tonight when I realised how little weight he's gained!sad feel responsible as I'm the one feeding. He's offered to take a long weekend to help me get some much needed rest. X

MrsNPattz Thu 06-Dec-12 02:08:45

And to top it off a very loud transfer fail sad

amey I would speak to your health visitor tomorrow to try and put your mind at rest!

First feed of the night here. Velcro baby yesterday so my nipples are feeling it today. No help on the expressing front I'm afraid, but watching avidly as I'm going to start next week grin
I'm so looking forward to sleeping through- whenever that will be! Sorry to not name check as on phone.
extremely useless post

MummyIsMagic79 Thu 06-Dec-12 02:58:52

Hi there.

DS is six days old. Just finishing off a 30 min feed, switched in the middle. But he had gone for over 4 hours before. Dunno if it's too long? So shattered. Fighting with DH all night before bed too. Gutted. sad

Smallgreenone Thu 06-Dec-12 03:20:55

I went to a breast feeding group this week and apparently there is a hormone in your milk at night that helps babies sleep so of you are expressing to give a bottle at night express at night. Also apparently night milk is creamier and yummier than day milk. No idea if they're right but that's what I was told.
No snow here but heavy snow forecast for tomorrow. I do love the snow! I'm like a big kid! Although I might feel differently now I have a baby and will be house bound if it is bad.

Ameybee Thu 06-Dec-12 03:23:37

Back to 2 hourly feeds sad or slightly less! I'm so tired, got both of them on my own Tomo too confused it will be a long day!
Can't believe we have reverted again after such a good run.
Think I will ring HV mrsn just need some ressurance, same thing happened with DD except bigger drop of centiles and she nearly killed me off permentantly feeding until I had to ff?
Welcome mummy and congrats! Think I'd be tempted to leave baby till they wake or if they are asleep on you put down to wake up then feed. In my experience waking only led to a sleepy feed which was v short! But baby bee never went that long anyway as he's a little monkey! X

funchum8am Thu 06-Dec-12 03:55:45

welcome magic very sorry to hear you and DH are arguing. it is horrible when you can't agree and are all sleep deprived so everything feels terrible. Hope you can talk things over better soon sad

babyfunch is feeding well having gone down at 5 and only woken at 11 and 3:30 to feed shock. This means she slept through the usual 2am bad patch so I feel fairly good!
DH has decided to get up because he can't sleep (i think the larger than usual volume of washing up is playing on his mind grin ) so he is taking her downstairs with him...not ideal for her routine but I can't resist the extra sleep as I have a half KIT day again. babyfunch is off to her lovely childminder for the second time. I hope it goes well again.

heff Cornwall is so lovely, I am jealous of your trip!
goat glad kid is letting you rest
mrsn shock to what it must be like in Aberdeen in this weather!

waving to everyone I have missed and angry to naughty stroppy DHs who think THEY are tired!!

funchum8am Thu 06-Dec-12 04:04:15

just realised why DH is so willing to get up - there is live Test match coverage on!

StuntNun Thu 06-Dec-12 04:11:34

My periods started again straight away after I had DS1 and DS2 Amey. I think it's just bad luck, not necessarily a sign of poor milk supply. I expect I'll be the same with this DS3. If you're worried about your supply you could try fenugreek and make sure you're getting some rest during the day, even if it's just vegging in front of the TV.

Second feed of the night here. Any chance of him going until morning now?

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Thu 06-Dec-12 04:28:09

Ok, so the bright-eyed and bushy-tailed just came a long a bit later.
This is not just a transfer fail, this is an epic transfer fail...

heff have a lovely time in Cornwall though shock at leaving at 2am!
Welcome magic
funch fingers crossed for multitasking, watching test match AND doing the washing up!
Hope you feel better soon mrsn and maybe get a nice snuggly duvet day if you can't get out!

Waves to everyone else and takes deep breath before approaching possibly sleeping Kid for transfer re-attempt.

missingmymarbles Thu 06-Dec-12 05:23:49

Second feed!! Not sure if we're about to get a delayed transfer fail, as I can hear fidgeting.
Hopefully get another couple of hours before we're up for the day.
Please let this be the beginning of a pattern. She has a bit of a cough which I hope is just a night time snuffle and not coming down with something. DD1 and I both have sore throats. Missmarbles has had that already don't want it again.
And did I already say I wanted this to be a normal night not the start of poorliness confused

Enjoy Cornwall,*Heff*. Safe journeysmile

Hi Magicsmile and congratulations.

Waves at everyone else.

Hope DHs start being a bit less self-centred and a bit more supportive.

MrsNPattz Thu 06-Dec-12 05:43:30

Second feed here and I haven't slept well in between. Definitely going to be a duvet day goat! There's something quite nice and Christmassy about being snuggled up inside when there is snow outside!

Hi and welcome mummymagic - hope you sort things out with DH!

Sounds like another mixed bag of nights!

funchum8am Thu 06-Dec-12 05:55:39

Well DH and babyfunch have got on like a house on fire! She slept for a bit, then played with him and was pleasingly cute and smily, then took a bottle and is now feeding with me again as DH is having a shower. So I got a blissful uninterrupted hour and a half more sleep (though actually had unpleasant dream sad ).

We are probably creating a massive issue letting her play etc in the middle of the night though....hopefully when the reflux or colic stops she will sleep longer and we can easily stop it!

funchum8am Thu 06-Dec-12 05:58:47

goat hope kid agrees it is still nighttime asap!

marbles fingers crossed for you that no poorliness occurs

mrsn have a wonderful duvet day....I had a duvet morning yesterday and it was bliss.

Smallgreenone Thu 06-Dec-12 07:00:52

Another good night- so two in a row!! Only one wake up at 3 and then now. Forgot to say have a lovely time in Cornwall heff I have never been to Cornwall shock always wanted to though.
mrsn hope those antibiotics are working their magic and you are feeling a little better this morning.
Welcome magic

MrsNPattz Thu 06-Dec-12 07:49:38

Thanks guys! Third feed here, only got another hours sleep blush I hope he has a long nap today so I can catch up on some zzzzzzzzs!

StuntNun Thu 06-Dec-12 08:47:20

J has now gone four hours since his last feed! He was noisy around 6:45 so I brought him into bed to feed him but he just did some loud and painful poos and didn't waken enough to latch on. Now I just have to get him to go four hours at night <wishful thinking>. I'm actually waiting for him to wake up so I can fee him an express the other side for a bottle for DH to give him in the evening.

Ameybee Thu 06-Dec-12 12:30:13

mrsn I wonder if our DS's have hit the 12 week growth spurt a bit early? I'm knackered today, had just got use to getting a bit more sleep - going back to 2 hourly feeds is torture confused! DD has yet another cold & has been whining and hanging off my leg all morning confused the house looks like a bombs gone off and MIL has decided she can't come over as planned for fear of snow! Long day ahead ;(

MrsNPattz Thu 06-Dec-12 14:03:28

amey yea you could be right! When is your little one 12 weeks? Baby Pattz is 12 weeks on Sunday!

missingmymarbles Thu 06-Dec-12 17:01:30

Well Missmarbles doesn't seem to be poorly. A bit snuffly maybe but nothing more serious than snot I don't think. DD1, on the other hand, was sent home at lunchtime not a well bunny at allsad Her temp is currently 40.1•C after calpol and ibuprofen. She has just said she thinks she lee feeling slightly better and has picked up her Nintendo after feeling cold all afternoonsad
I have a site throat, cough and thumping stuffy head.
Missmarbles a but grizzly at this time as per the norm. Can't wait for bedtime for us all. Hope we all stay put once there.....

Susieloo Thu 06-Dec-12 17:43:48

Last feed before bed for a very over tired babyloo although I'm expecting his usual couple of wakings between now and seven. His cheeks by the end of the day are scalding and scarlet so teething is well under way I think. I did post this morning but the app ate it-we had an amazing night by all accounts with a dream feed at half eleven followed by a grizzle at 4.40 and as an experiment I thought I would put his sound machine on rather than jump to feed him and he went back to sleep until 6.30-I think this is our third night and previously good runs have been three nightly followed by a return to two hourly so fingers crossed, I have asked babyloo to let miss marbles know that this is the new plan, she seems to be heading that way anyway, remarkable how similar there sleeping patterns have been.

Hope all the poorly babies are feeling better and all the sleep deprived mum's have got some rest.

funchum8am Thu 06-Dec-12 18:38:02

Off to take DH to his Xmas work do (with babyfunch in the car, late bedtime for her grin ) then will settle her and order a pizza! DH has the day off tomorrow so we can share night duty (if he doesn't drink too much! he never really does) and off to see friends tomorrow in Essex. Life's good!

MissingMyBaubles Thu 06-Dec-12 18:38:19

It is remarkable, Susie! We also have hot scarlet cheeks but clearly no temp. which I am super aware of at the mo in the light if DD1's furnace.
Last feed half done; just going to put wadded sleeper on, feed other side and do transfer.

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Thu 06-Dec-12 19:15:36

Well I have a real grizzle bunny tonight. He sounds very wheezy and obviously is really outraged at still feeling under the weather. I hope it settles down, because he can't breathe properly unless completely upright. Might try the wet towel on radiator trick.
Sorry to hear about unwell children. Hope everyone gets a good night nevertheless (well I can dream cant I!)
Enjoy your pizza, funch !

MrsNPattz Thu 06-Dec-12 19:31:08

I'm feeling really, really low today. I am feeling completely drained due to the mastitis and not enough sleep, and my eyes are bad again today. Mentally I am feeling all over the place. My issues towards my in laws just seem to be dragging me down and it's making me feel a million miles away from hubby - I'm scared its coming between us without us really knowing it. Every time I look at and think about my baby boy I cry. I feel guilty but I don't know what about. I can't seem to sleep - I have come upstairs to try but I'm just crying instead. I'm sorry all I seem to do is whine at the moment but this seems to be the only place I can offload and get support. Hoping for a good night to give me a big of strength!

Ameybee Thu 06-Dec-12 19:50:12

He's 11 weeks today mrsn but he was 9 days late so could well be early growth spurt (well in my head anyway!). Had a mixed day, spoke to HV about his weight, she said he theoretically hasn't gained as much as he should but its just a watch n wait thing really, she said it could be because he's gone longer between feeds at night (not last night obviously!). I feel pretty crappy about it, if he's not gained as he should in 2 weeks ill probably switch to ff as this is what happened with DD, i really wanted bf to work out this time.

Sorry to hear of all poorly little ones! There's so many bugs about at the mo! DD is still harbouring something, she's not herself. Taking her to gp on mon if she's not much better. Xx

Susieloo Thu 06-Dec-12 20:03:23

So sorry you are feeling so low mrsn we are here whenever you need to offload, I don't know what the issues are with your in laws but I know that it can be a tricky relationship and mine drive me round the bend sometimes (they live a five minute walk away so it is quite literally round the bend!) Really hoping you get some decent rest tonight, when I can't sleep I always try and think that at least I'm resting, it is really frustrating though. Keep posting, there's always one of us around!!

Hope you are feeling okay too amey.

Dp has redeemed himself by stocking the fridge full of mint aero bubbles, a huge orange aero bar and some reeses pieces, I am very easily won over!!

I have just got into bed after putting babyloo to bed at six ish and so far he has stayed fast asleep so fingers crossed he will go through until half eleven.

Ameybee Thu 06-Dec-12 20:56:17

mrsn sorry you feel so rubbish. All I can say is that some days things feel a million times worse than they actually are! I have days where I cry and think everything's awful then the next day feel completely different! I feel guilty all the time too, think guilt is a right of passage into motherhood! Sleep may help tho, I can't cope very well on little sleep!

Thanks susie trying not to think too far ahead (very guilty of that - already thought about if he won't take a bottle etc etc)!

Snowing here grin. We are having pizza tonight too - awaiting its arrival!! X

MiniPopsMum2012 Thu 06-Dec-12 21:07:09

(I am two pages behind, as I was so shattered at 4am this morning I couldnt' see straight to post)

goat yes, we had snow - was so surprised when I woke up, had all gone by lunchtime though.

I'Ve been looking at other baby groups, but they all break up next week. Oooh Baileys and white choc fudge? Can you share recipe?

MrsN are you feeling any better? I saw the snow in Aberdeen as have family living in Aberdeen.

Welcome Magic and congrats...

Sounds like a lot of transfer fails last night, Boo

Amey whereabouts are you/where's it snowing? grin it's raining where I am.. sorry you're feeling crappy, but fingers crossed for better weight gain in a couple of weeks

Sorry that so many little ones are poorly, MiniPop is also coming down with another cold/cough sigh

Was up at 4am after a huge poonami, then had to try and convince MiniPop to go back to sleep, finally got him settled at just after 5am and then he was awake again at about half six... groan.

Really hoping for some more sleep tonight as I think I'm coming down with a cold too - double boo!

On the plus side I do have my first Baileys of the festive season, and the first one since finding out I was pregnant a year ago grin

MrsNPattz Thu 06-Dec-12 21:09:42

Thanks susie and amey. I think the issues with my in laws have been building and building since little man was born and it all stems from not living near my family. When my family went home from visiting us when little man was born I was devastated and felt this tremendous guilt that I had moved so far away and that they wouldn't get to see him regularly. This has lead to resentment towards my in laws, to the point where I don't even want them to see little man and I feel panicky when I think about it. The thought of leaving him with MIL makes me cry. And it's so awful because it's not their fault - MIL does drive me crazy on an every day level but she has a heart of gold and it's not my intention to stop them seeing little man. So you see I'm not sure how to fix it. Me and hubby have just had a big heart to heart where I have told him how I am feeling, he's obviously hurt that I feel like that towards his family but knows that it's not me being nasty or deliberately trying to make things difficult. I think it's a big step that I have actually been honest with him. The next step is speaking to my health visitor, she has been wonderful but is on leave until Monday so that will have to wait until then. I think things have been building and building and mixed with my ill health has all got on top of me. I promise once I start feeling better I will try and be much less self indulgent! And amey you are right, I will probably feel better tomorrow!

In foody news I have brought a huge box of Thornton's chocs upstairs with me! And finished off a bar of Cadbury Oreo chocolate today which I can highly recommend! xx

MrsNPattz Thu 06-Dec-12 21:15:42

And goat yes the white choc and baileys fudge does sound amazing!

Hi mini!

Sorry it's so shit ATM mrsn. Sounds like the mastitis was final straw. I have same issues with in laws as my parents love further away and it's more of an issue for then to get here. Whenever my MIL pops in, I always feel bad that my parents can't do the same. I think talking to your HV is a good idea, just to get done more support. And MN is always here too!
DH started work today so first day on my own and I was really pleased. Managed to drive, work the car seat and meet people for lunch on time! Wo hoo grin

Ameybee Thu 06-Dec-12 21:30:29

We are in sheffield mini! Yep fingers crossed he settles and piles on some lbs, I probably will - just eaten an entire medium sized pizza!

I think how you feel is understandable mrsn especially if you're close with your parents. My MIL sees more of DS because they live a bit closer & her other grandchildren have moved to Sweden whereas my parents have 3 other grandchildren who they also look after, so sometimes I feel bad when I tell my mum that MIL has been over again. My parents still see DD and DS usually every other week or more but I still feel like I want my parents to see them more?! That might sound selfish I know!
Perhaps you could explain to your own mum how you feel? I'm sure she would reassure you. Maybe you could make regular plans to meet up every so often so you have that to look forward to? We use FaceTime a lot with my parents too, which seems bizarre as they see them so much anyway but I like them to see them every other day! Xx

funchum8am Thu 06-Dec-12 21:31:05

mrsn I am so sorry to hear you are feeling low at the moment. It is not your fault you are not near your family, you have made the best decision for your circumstances. I am four hours from my family, whereas my brother, SIL and my niece live next door to my dad and step mum. I am jealous of how nearby they all are but DH would just die if we lived very close to them...they get on but he finds them best in small doses! They adore him though. And I chose to live down south for work, but even so it is hard them not seeing babyfunch very often. Though my mum has just retired so has been here a few times which was lovely for me...think dh is hoping for fewer visits in future though!

On the other hand my in laws are even further away so not quite the same as your situation but I know what you mean about feeling guilty when family visits are over sad

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Thu 06-Dec-12 21:41:54

mrsn sorry to hear that things are so tough at the moment - you have really been in the wars. I really do sympathise abut the family/in laws dilemma, as I share it, my mother living as she does literally on the other side of the world! And she does not have Skype (despite heavy agitating from me) so she has not even seen her only grandson yet. I don't like telling her that the in-laws have been over yet sgwin. Well done for talking to your DH though, and I hope he understands.
Here is the fudge recipe I added more baileys at the end of cooking so the taste was stronger. smile

MrsNPattz Thu 06-Dec-12 22:19:40

It really is amazing to think that I have been feeling so incredibly alone and guilty about the way I have been feeling, when in fact my situation is not unique and others feel exactly the same! That in itself makes me feel better. I feel guilty telling my mum and dad that i have seen the in laws, and it's comforting to know that i'm not alone in that. Thank you so so much for all of your kind words, your support is much appreciated.

I have a little scamp who won't go to sleep hence why I have been posting so much and not trying to sleep.

Thanks for the recipe goat!

blonderthanred Thu 06-Dec-12 22:54:20

mrsn sorry you have been feeling so crappy, I think we all have those sorts of worries - I worry about my in-laws not being able to spend time with us due to distance but then when they visit I worry about my mum not feeling needed or welcome... I am a worrier anyway but the baby has ramped things up a notch, I'm sure all the exhaustion/hormones/guilt sends us doolally. Wishing you all the best.

Well my DS has been feeding almost constantly since 9.30am, just a few short breaks and only a couple of dozes all day. I'm hoping this means he is either working out day and night or having a growth spurt (or both). 6 weeks tomorrow!

Ameybee Thu 06-Dec-12 22:55:18

God I am sick to death of transfer fails!!! Currently boobing him back to sleep!! Wish you could levitate them from boob to cot, one of these sleepless nights I'm going to invent something like a scoop for transfers, a scoop and slide - sclide ill call it, if it worked i'd make millions grin, or a detachable boob that fastened to the cot - I'm getting delirious now. X

MiniPopsMum2012 Thu 06-Dec-12 23:22:39

amey grin at 'boobing back to sleep'
MrsN sorry you're feeling like this, glad you've discussed with other half though.

Thanks for reciprocal goat sounds deliciously, gonna make some Timor or over the weekend..

I've also discovered coconut lattes, oooooh yum. Bet that'd go nice within the fudge. Nom Nom Nom xx

MiniPopsMum2012 Thu 06-Dec-12 23:33:53

HElvis that's an impressive list smile it took me a while to get my driving confidence up. Have you got one of those bear view mirrors?

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Thu 06-Dec-12 23:54:59

amey if you invent your sclide, along with the millions I think you'd get canonisation! grin
minipop recipe doesn't say how long to soft ball stage - is about 45 mins. Enjoy!
*blonder grin st the thought of your LO pumping iron when you are not looking!

Susieloo Fri 07-Dec-12 00:20:38

Attempting a dream feed after he woke himself up at ten and I woke up now so thought I would have a go.

I want a sclide.

I also want a coconut latte, where do they come from, please be a big national chain so I have an outside chance of getting one tomorrow, sounds very yummy.

mini no mirror, I had her on the passenger seat next to me. It worked brilliantly as she had a major meltdown on the way
Second feed here. 3.5 hrs after the last one grin

funchum8am Fri 07-Dec-12 01:47:35

Feeding again here. No sign of dh coming back from work Xmas do, and I think I have gone and left my phone in the car (typing this on the iPad - couldn't come to bed with no way of seeing this thread!) so if he is unable to get a taxi, or has got delayed for whatever reason, I have no idea. Have left a voicemail and Facebooked him about lack of phone but I do hope he is ok blush

I would love a sclide, amey! You should go on Dragons' Den!

Kit day went well - my difficult team member, the one who got a disciplinary a while back, has a new job elsewhere from sept so not too long til he is out of my hair. Plus I get to hire a new teacher which I love doing smile. And he will be happier too. I gave the childminder 10 oz of expressed milk in bottles which I thought was plenty for five hours but she guzzled the lot! I had also put in a carton of formula in case of emergency and cm only managed to avoid using it by giving her some cooled boiled water, which settled her. What a little chubbier babyfunch is! Off to google how much a baby should be feeding at 9 weeks as I am off out for the day on sat, leaving her with dh!

Good luck for transfers and sclide use everyone....

funchum8am Fri 07-Dec-12 02:55:51

Dh home safe, just had a late one. He doesn't do it very often, bless him. Feeding again and trying to work out how the sclide will lift baby over the side of the cot...

MissingMyBaubles Fri 07-Dec-12 03:01:21

Eyes stinging. Will have to read thread mané. Last night must've been a fluke. Up and hour after going to bed (8), then 12.30 and now. Doubt we'll get to morning.

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Fri 07-Dec-12 03:54:28

Great new name there, baubles! smile
funch maybe like a crane arm for the sclide? (hey, my iPad recognises the word already! It's a sign!) and don't get too obsessed about weight... Was just thinking today how we really beat ourselves up over this, and hcps often help us do it - when we have perfectly happy, healthy babies!
Coconut latte and fudge? I think we're on a roll here!
Right. Five minutes to transfer. Countdown begins.

Ameybee Fri 07-Dec-12 04:05:44

108th feed of night here (well that's how it feels) this every 2 hours thing is a killer! I can't keep doing it!

Yes goat I think some sort of silent crane would be required for the sclide, maybe I should make a prototype grin, ill get DH on it in the garage!

Coconut latte sounds amazing - I want one..... Now. Or a Malibu, hmm Malibu.

Sleepy dust everyone. X

funchum8am Fri 07-Dec-12 04:30:50

Feeding again...she managed an hour from 3:20 to 4:20 which is an improvement ... Clutch at straws? Me?

Think the sclide needs a kind of forklift truck type design, maybe....

About to do transfer....of cake to my belly!!

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Fri 07-Dec-12 04:38:02

Why is it that when the baby is born, all the pillows in the house suddenly acquire an alarm that tells said baby exactly when one's head hits the pillow slip after a feed? amey could you do something about an alarm disabler too, pretty please??

Smallgreenone Fri 07-Dec-12 05:01:52

I want a sclide.
First feed here!!! Although second time I've been up. He grizzled at 3 which woke me and although he went back to sleep my boobs were so sore and hard I had to go and express. Very annoying.
mrsn I'm sorry you're feeling so low. I'm another one who has close in laws and far away parents, it is hard. And I cry some days too when I think I just can't cope, it's all the sleep deprivation I think!
All our snow has turned to rain. It's horrid.
Ready for transfer now, oh to have a sclide!

Smallgreenone Fri 07-Dec-12 05:10:48

Yes definitely need a sclide!!!
amey think your little one is 12 weeks, baby small is 14 weeks and has just stopped the two hourly wakings of his three month growth spurt so it will pass, just hang on!! Although having said that I bet he will now regress on me!

HeffalumpsAndWoozles Fri 07-Dec-12 06:04:04

Oh wow a schlide sounds amazing, can I pre order?!

We had a good journey down but it knackered us all out so even babylump, who is usually impossible to put down before 1am, was fast asleep by 9.30! DD1 woke up in the night so she's in bed with us and I'm sat up feeding and hoping desperately that this isn't us up for the day now.

mrsn you poor thing things sound like they're really getting to you right now. <hugs> well done for talking to your DH about it, I hope you have a good HV to talk to and yes always remember you can come on here to offload.

I have the opposite situation ATM but still feel lots of guilt, we live with my family while we're saving for our move to Cornwall so currently feel guilty that my family see so much more of the DDs than the ILs do, but also feel guilt that we're going to then move 4 hours away from my parents and probably no more that 20 minutes from DH's. we're doing it to get a better quality of life for the DDs but still, I know I will be massively guilt ridden when it finally happens.

goat that fudge sounds amazing I think I might have to have a go next week.

funch jealous of your pizza, I love takeaway for one when I'm home alone it feels like such a treat!

Welcome magic and congratulations on your LO smile

Susieloo Fri 07-Dec-12 06:08:34

1st feed since half twelve.......I'm sure it will all go pear shaped tonight as I think this is night 3, hope everyone warm and asleep, I've been trying to think of a Christmas nickname but my nn is so like an actual name I'm stuck, will try and change it by tonight. Babyloo back in his cot but I think we have just had morning poonami so this might be us up for the day.

HeffalumpsAndWoozles Fri 07-Dec-12 06:13:24

susie I'm stuck for a Christmas name change too, by the time I've come up with one it'll be new year!

Two transfer fails in a row here sad so depressing, wish I'd brought Ewan with us. At home I'd probably just take her downstairs now and hopefully she'd eventually doze off and I would kip on the sofa but I dont like to that in someone else's house so I guess I'm stuck for a little while.

<hoping for a tiny pinch more of sleepy dust>

Smallgreenone Fri 07-Dec-12 06:32:25

Baby small can do a six hour stretch and then apparently only 1 hour confused
His egg has gone blue so wonder if he was cold. Have stuck the hearing on for us. Hoping we can go back to bed, too dark to get up now and cold brrrrrrrrr.
Making calendars at our baby group this morning with pictures of babies- can't wait!

Ameybee Fri 07-Dec-12 07:16:09

I'll try goat and whilst I'm at it I will do one that stops them waking up as soon as dinner comes out the oven!

Well we had 2 transfer fails at 430Am but I lost the will and left him (he wasn't crying just grizzling) and he self settled! This is a one off most likely but still grin.

small he was 11 weeks yesterday but my theory is we've hit it early as he was 9 days overdue. Good to know you've come out the other side tho - thank u!! Ill give the bf another few weeks but if he goes back to 2 hourly after that I'm not sure i can cope. It is horrendous & not making me a very nice mummy to DD in day either, I'm crabby and tired and feel really guilty about that sad xx

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Fri 07-Dec-12 07:23:54

The word fun does not come to mind about last night. Neither does the word restful.
Kid is still snuffleupagus reincarnated, and wanted to tell the world how horrible he feels. At length. All night. he actually slept quite soundly in the precious moments that he was indeed asleep, so if he had just stayed that way rather than waking himself up to rant, all might have been well. hmm I always knew I had a diva!
At home today waiting for two deliveries - a new phone to replace the one with no backlight (have been squinting at it for months blush much to DH's frustration) and DH's Christmas present. maybe will get some nap time in between. Also want to make apple and cranberry chutney to use up some of the countless apples bestowed upon us by PILs. (I have a major Good Food magazine addiction!) Then if everything turns up this morning, we may venture forth to the Rhymetime at the local library this afternoon. (alternatively I may go back to bed!!)

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Fri 07-Dec-12 13:53:29

Kid had lost his voice! grin he tries to cry and can only produce a husky little mew. It's very sad and pathetic sad


Ps he is still quite smiley in between!

Ameybee Fri 07-Dec-12 14:42:22

Having an awful day. Baby bee went on hunger strike today. Been awful sad lots of screaming but no temp or sign of being unwell? Just got him to feed now after giving him a taste of expressed milk from a bottle lid. That's the longest he's ever gone without feeding. Having a day of feeling like I really can't cope. Me and DH just don't know what the best thing to do is x

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Fri 07-Dec-12 15:56:24

amey Sorry t hear yu are having a bad day. What abut ringing the La Leche or NCT helplines? I found them very helpful.

MrsNPattz Fri 07-Dec-12 17:41:49

Hi ladies!

<warning - another self indulgent post grin>

Well I hit rock bottom last night! As you all know I was already feeling crappy, and I was then awake from 2:15 til well after 5 because of my eyes! Little man just woke for a feed at 4 and went straight back to sleep! I ended up waking hubby at 3 for comfort because I was so upset. Anyway, I have seen a GP (no help) and an optician (very helpful) today and I have corneal dystrophy (map, fingerprint, dot dystrophy - if anyone is remotely interested its googlable lol) and there is not really a cure! The very nice optician lady took pity on me and has managed to get me a hospital appointment on Monday to discuss managing the symptoms!

She put some numbing eye drops in which are heaven so thought I would come and bore you all again before they wear off hehe

So all in all a shit week (sorry for language) - roll on Monday haha

amey hope you feel a bit better!

Hi to everybody else, hope we all have good nights xx

Ameybee Fri 07-Dec-12 18:19:36

Totally with you on the feeling rubbish mrsn glad you got some relief from the eye drops and optician was helpful.

I googled feed refusal goat and it suggests poor supply amongst other things. Luckily he has started feeding again but coupled with his poor weight gain I'm worried. I wonder whether he's been unsettled last few weeks because he isn't getting enough milk for whatever reason. I have to do what's right for him & DD really, she's fed up this afternoon because I've been crying, he's been crying and I've had no time for her. I feel horrendously guilty sad

Smallgreenone Fri 07-Dec-12 18:20:53

Hi mrsn sorry you're still feeling low. My friend has corneal dystrophy, think it only bothers her if she gets something in her eye though so maybe not as bad as you. She's had it since we were little.
amey sorry you're having a tough time too. No advice here, sorry. Would deffo try one of the helplines though.
Baby small is rather overtired so a bit of an earlier bedtime for him. Then we have people coming to stay so I need to zoom round the house and try and make it partway decent. DH is in the kitchen making a huge mess cooking something delicious for us all. Can't wait for a mug of mulled cider grin, I've expressed tonight so can have more than one drink, hoorah!

HeffalumpsAndWoozles Fri 07-Dec-12 18:42:12

Oh amey that sounds worrying for you, goat's suggestions sound sensible the helplines should have some good advice. If he'll take expressed milk from a lid could you try a sippy cup maybe if he's still refusing the breast? Hope its sorted soon.

goat poor Kid, babies with sore throats sound so sad don't they! Babylump is the same at the moment it makes her cry extra hard to listen to sad

We've had a lovely day visiting some of my family in St Ives, both DDs were spoilt rotten. We're seeing SIL & nephew again tomorrow ahead of his christening on Sunday, he's 10 weeks older than babylump but she's such a chunky monkey she's the same size as him!

DH has gone out to play snooker with his Dad tonight so I'm hoping for a quiet night with the girls and a nice chat with MIL. Hopefully involving some of her lush chocolate button cake grin

MrsNPattz Fri 07-Dec-12 18:48:26

amey you poor thing - you have to do the best for you all and maybe getting some advice as goat suggested might help! Sending hugs xx

MrsNPattz Fri 07-Dec-12 19:05:51

Once again this thread proves I'm not alone small thanks - I'm going to have a look for some forums to see if I can speak to other sufferers!

Ooh mrs that sounds sore. Hope you are feeling better and that the hospital appt helps.
Sorry for the poorly babies hmm hope they get better soon

In first feed of the night. Not very hopeful as baby elvis (should I refer to her as Lisa Marie?!) has just had a major mini meltdown for no reason at all

funchum8am Fri 07-Dec-12 22:25:11

Oh dear it sounds like people are really suffering at the moment. mrsn will they prescribe you some of the lovely numbing drops for when it gets really bad??

amey keep coming here to offload and let us know how your research on strategies to deal with feeding works out - sounds like you are doing absolutely everything in your power to find out what is going on and fix it.

We had a tough night once DH got back from his late night out with work - he hadn't drunk a lot but didn't wake up for his usual early morning stint with babyfunch despite saying he would be helping out as usual so I was pretty angry. I woke him for a moan!! I wouldn't mind if he had officially booked the night off but he specifically said he would be up, so I didn't go to bed extra early, which I could have if I knew I was in for a longer night than usual. Grrr. Also he felt really ill this morning but insisted it was not a hangover but something he ate hmm yet also insisted on still coming to see friends a 2 hour journey away. So I had to do all the driving and stress in case he gave them a bug/was sick in the car or at their house etc. he wasn't in the end but I was still fuming.

Having said all that we have made up and both gone to bed at 7:30, him on the sofa and me upstairs, so we can be half human again in the morning. I am off to a conference and get together at my old college tomorrow which should be fun and I get the whole day off baby duty. We will see how dh copes....should be interesting!!

Attempting transfer....good luck everyone for the night ahead....

Ameybee Fri 07-Dec-12 22:35:23

Well. He's just guzzled the ebm - 4oz and cried after, i think half the problem is he falls asleep whilst feeding from me & never quite gets full. So, looks like ill be expressing a bit more n see how it goes, but might introduce a bottle of formula in evening. DH really enjoyed feeding him, I feel a bit bad because I hadn't realised he maybe felt a bit left out in a weird way x

MrsNPattz Fri 07-Dec-12 23:36:28

Just ended up with a fountain of baby sick all over me sad so needing sleep and it's just not happening at the moment! Can't believe he still isn't sleeping at half 11 and we have both just had to change.

funch we have googled these wonder drops and excessive use has really bad side effects so they wont prescribe them but might try and get some for when it is too much.

HeffalumpsAndWoozles Sat 08-Dec-12 01:35:44

Seems quiet on here tonight hope that means the sleepy mice have been doing their job!

We're still up, she's been grizzling since 11 but only finally fell asleep at 1, almost never wakes up at the 1am transfer but of course tonight she waited for me to get up to bed then she woke up so I'm re-feeding her back to sleep.

How are you feeling mrsn and amey? Sorry to hear you've been low. Hope your eyes get better mrsn sounds painful sad

Going to attempt transfer again in a minute, fingers crossed this time.

HeffalumpsAndWoozles Sat 08-Dec-12 01:41:25

Fail sad

Ameybee Sat 08-Dec-12 02:02:46

Thanks for all the support ladies - dont know what id do without this thread and you all right now! First feed here since the ebm. I'm just so glad he took the bottle easily as if HV says to top him up with formula I know I can without too much hassle (fingers crossed anyway). Going to double pump Tomo as DH thinks we should do his bedtime bottle ebm because most evenings I'm up n downstairs feeding or he doesn't settle till late. Think this is a sensible idea.
Hope everyone's getting some sleep now xx

Susieloo Sat 08-Dec-12 02:15:36

Glad you are feeling a little better amey and I'm in the same boat as you heff with the transfer fail. After 3 amazing nights we have been up four times now and he is back in his cot wide awake singing to the pretty pictures, sounds a long way off sleep to me.....

Twobuttonsaway Sat 08-Dec-12 02:46:48

Good evening susie amey and heff just finished 2am feed here which has been elongated by a mid feed green poo! Have read lots about poo in the last couple of days and reassured its normal! Hope your transfers go well... Attempting now! smile

StuntNun Sat 08-Dec-12 03:16:15

Another bad night here. After a feed at 12:30 DH took J off downstairs and gave him a bottle of EBM after I specifically said not to. So at 2:45 I was lying awake feeling very uncomfortable having to decide whether to wake J up to get him to feed or to try to express. Bloody DH said he forgot I has said not to give the bottle and I would feed him. So pissed off with him right now.

Smallgreenone Sat 08-Dec-12 03:32:18

Sooooooooop tired. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzz. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Ameybee Sat 08-Dec-12 05:43:35

Well after his feed at 2 he went till now and my boob has practically exploded! I had to change my bra as it was wet through! Its so weird having him not feed all night, I've actually been awake a fair bit. At least there will be plenty to express tomorrow.
Sorry there's not much sleep going on for some - sending you sleepy dust x

Ameybee Sat 08-Dec-12 06:39:12

Poonami! I forgot how bad they are especially when gro bag etc is included and when its freezing cold! I have a feeling we are starting the day however, he's been chatting away to me. Best get my thermals on to brave downstairs. Hoping DD gets up soon, then DH can let me go back to bed! X

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Sat 08-Dec-12 06:46:09

Still having scrappy nights. My head feels like it is floating off somewhere 6 feet above the rest of me. Kid, on the other and, is lying here doing his usual calisthenics routine and smiling largely at me.

StuntNun Sat 08-Dec-12 07:05:35

At least he's happy Goat!

I made it through the night. Now to try and make it through the day.

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Sat 08-Dec-12 07:37:29

He is indeed * stunt* and still volume controlled due to loss of voice!

Sorry for bad nights, had hoped quiet thread meant lots of sleep.

Are you freezing down in Cornwall, heff ?

HeffalumpsAndWoozles Sat 08-Dec-12 07:52:15

Morning everyone, I've come with a bit of a rant. DD1 woke up about 6.45 and as her travel cot is on DHs side of the bed I asked him to pick her up so she could come into our bed, he had a strop at being woken up but did it then went back to sleep. She started chatting away at 7.15 and wanted to get up which started him whinging, she decided she wanted to sit in bed & watch cbeebies so I asked him to switch it on. There followed 5 minutes of cursing and stomping whole he couldn't get the remote to work, he then got up and switched the main light on which has really pissed me off because of course that woke babylump up. I snapped at him to switch it off so he did then made a massive song & dance about it, loads of noise, got bank into bed and turned over ignoring us which left me to sort it all out and now I'll be the one to have to get up no matter that I was up til half 2 this morning with the baby angry Just becausr he difnt get in from boozing with his dad until 1 he thinks its ok to act like a moody teenager. Sometimes I could really throttle him angry

<and breath>

Sorry about that, just had to get it off my chest instead of sitting here silently fuming!

Hope everyone's well rested this morning.

HeffalumpsAndWoozles Sat 08-Dec-12 08:34:53

Oh and did I mention the humongous vom-a-thon babylump had which he miraculously 'slept' through... <murderous glances in DH direction>

One more angry for good measure

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Sat 08-Dec-12 12:01:51

Sorry to hear about your rough night, heff. Maybe get babylump to direct the next vomathon to the other side of the bed?... (sorry, am sleep deprived so not playing nice!)

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Sat 08-Dec-12 12:03:41

Forgot to say, mrsn sorry to hear about your eyes - what an extra stress on top of everything else you have to deal with. I hope you're at least getting a bit of a break through some nice sleep! (and brew and nice biscuit )

Smallgreenone Sat 08-Dec-12 12:56:06

Oh heff these husbands can be so bloody selfish.
I was so tired last night had to take baby small into bed with me again at 4.30 and he slept through then until 7.30 which was bliss. Meeting the nct group today and its lovely and sunny so feeling quite buoyant at the moment. Currently sitting in the nursery in the dark so baby small sleeps before we go so isn't a horrid grumpy overtired baby when we get there grin

MissingMyBaubles Sat 08-Dec-12 14:32:53

Ouch! Just had a lot of catching up to do. I wish I could say it was because Missmarbles had decided to sleep through from 7-7 but sadly notgrin Should have known that the first lovely night we have had in over a month was actually a dream fluke, and we are back to 3-hourly night feeds. At least transfers have been successful on the whole, and some self-settling has occurred. Liking the idea of a sclide though, Amey, just to make sure they remain relatively successful.

I am just sat in her room while she has an afternoon nap, because the Virgin Media man is banging holes in the walls for cablinghmm Actually she has just woken up and is chatting and gurgling. I'm glad coz she has been a bit of a grump todaysad

DD1 has been off school again with high temps and poorliness, thankfully Missmarbles is unscathed this time. I have been grotty though, so not sure how I would manage with two poorly kids and no sleep. Anyway, DH and her are in the shed doing her homeworksmile

How's Kid, Goat? Missmarbles still managed to grin even with her poorly throat. Very cute in a sad kind of a way listening to them croakinggrin

Susie - What gestation was Babyloo born at? He's a day older than Missmarbles isn't he? She was 39+1. I think their similar patterns are amazing. I have cracked and started weaning Missmarbles this week too. I was going to wait til Tuesday (exactly 5 months) but she was so ready and this has been proved by the fact that she isn't really spitting much out; seems her tongue is mature enough to put it in the right placegrin We've only been doing first tastes. She's a gutsy little scoffer and loves to see her little bowl appearing grin

Jealous of Small and Susie's recent mammoth sleeps. Good work babiesgrin

MrsN Sorry you hare having such a rough time at the minutesad. My mum and dad live about 200 miles from us too, and I really miss them, more so since Missmarbles was born. It's good that you have managed to tell your DH. He needs to know and understand that it may not even be a personal thing towards your in-laws, just how you are feeling at the minute, with so much going on, and the general lack of energy etc. Hope you are getting some relief for your eyes too.

Well done getting out of the house on time, Elvis! I struggle to do that without a babygrin I wish I could put the baby seat in the front in my car, but I can't switch off the air bag. DD1 was always in the front because it didn't have a passenger air bag and it's so much easier to deal with.

Heff Hope you're enjoying Cornwall. My brother and his wife and baby have just moved there, and I can't wait to come down for holidaysgrin

Enjoy your conference today, Funch. I've applied for a new job and am already stressing about if I get an interview what will Missmarbles do, if I'm away the whole day. I know I have to deal with that for work, but it will be sorted by then.

Sorry you're having a hard time, Amey. Glad it sounds like your DH is supportive in suggesting the EBM night feed. Sounds like you're doing the right things and you need to do what works for you as a family.

<waves> at Mini. Haven't seen Nervous for a while - hope she's ok. <waves> at lurkers, and sorry to anyone I've missed. Tis a mahoosive post coz I'm on my laptop grin

All these flavoured lattes sound delish, but I don't like coffee, much to DH's chagrin. He says the flavours mask the coffee taste but when I taste his, all I can taste is coffee - yak!confused I did make some coconut slice the other day. It's like bounty; didn't last longblush mmmmmmm........

Susieloo Sat 08-Dec-12 15:42:19

I'm sat here trying to work out if babyloo was 39+1 too and my maths simply isn't up to it!! I was due on the 16th which was a Monday and I had him by planned section at 39 weeks on the Tuesday before which was the 10th so I think that is 39+1??!!! Would be amazing if miss marbles and babyloo were born at the same gestation and may explain the similar patterns, we start weaning on Monday which I am very excited about being such a lover of food myselfsmile really hope their pattern for tonight involves a huge sleep, feel knackered.

MissingMyBaubles Sat 08-Dec-12 16:20:42

Gosh Susie! That is 39+1!! I was due Tuesday 17th and had a c-section the Wednesday before (11th)!!

Ameybee Sat 08-Dec-12 16:44:07

Eek heff i would've been well pissed off! I sometimes don't think they realise how knackered we actually are! I think my DH only realised when I left the handbrake off that day! He's got a cold manflu again... confused I got him some lemsip max strength to help shut him up whinging
Currently at PIL - nice being looked after! Hoping baby bee continues to take expressed milk as I'm thinking i would love to take DD swimming next weekend! She would love some mummy time! Although I need my legs waxed before or ill scare all the kids!!!
We've resumed normal feeding after the hunger strike yesterday - weird as it almost seems like it was a sign that things were not right as I prob wouldn't of bothered expressing and trying him last night if he hadnt refused to feed!
DH is being incredibly supportive and says to see how expressing goes. He's not pushing me to ff which I'm glad about as I need longer to think about if.
I don't mind expressing but sometimes it makes my nipples a bit sore whilst I do it - doesnt anyone else find that? X

Susieloo Sat 08-Dec-12 18:02:01

That explains the starlight barking then marbles!!

heff agree with amey I just don't think they get it, I am really struggling to go back to sleep after the 11-12 feed and its really frustrating-dp can't understand because he thinks if I was that tired I would sleep!! He is however making me spaghetti and meatballs for tea and does buy me chocolate which is great but not necessarily what I need sometimes.

amey I've not experienced any pain when expressing unless my nipple has been rubbing against the pump.

Christmas tree went up today and babyloo was fascinated by the lights, it even stopped him dementedly chewing his teether for half an hour.

We are on last feed before bed after another sub two hour nap day, I'm going to bed early tonight to read and try and catch up on some sleep.

Have a good night everyonesmile

MrsNPattz Sat 08-Dec-12 18:04:36

Hello! Would you believe me if I told you I'm now full of cold?? confused Lol

We finally got to bed last night at midnight, and then the bloody house alarm went off at half 2!! So very annoying. Little man somehow managed to sleep through it and woke up at half 5 for a feed which would have been brilliant had it not been for my earlier rude awakening. We then slept til ten past 9, I fed him and then hubby took him so I could sleep and I slept til gone 12! Then I got another hour with little man on the sofa so I am feeling a bit more human and my eyes are a bit better today thanks goat. I literally had a shower this afternoon and got right back in my pyjamas haha

heff oh dear - I hope you told him how annoyed you were! Really frustrating but I'm sure he has apologised grin

marbles thanks - yes I have been worse since being pregnant, I was a lot better settled before then.

amey hope things are ok today!

Hi to everyone else and to all lurkers smile

HeffalumpsAndWoozles Sat 08-Dec-12 20:41:31

How has everyone's day been? mrsn pyjama day sounds great! smile

We've been out and about today, PIL wanted to take DD1 to the garden centre to meet Father Christmas so we all went along this morning, it was so huge and full if amazing Christmas stuff I could have bought half the shop! DD quite liked meeting Santa but drew the line at sitting on his knee, she got to chose her present and she chose garden bouls (sp?) so we've been playing bouls in the living room tonight before bed.

We went to Padstow this evening to look around the Christmas market which was really nice, Rick Stein was there doing demonstrations and there was lots of tasty food & plenty of Cornish cyder grin

Just treating myself to a lovely hot bath now while MIL has babylump and DH (finally forgiven) puts DD1 to bed. It's our little nephews christening in the morning so we're all scrubbed and ready for our best dresses in the morning. I'm so excited to be godmother but a little worried I'll fall arse over tit on my way to the front of the church as I haven't worn heels since before I was pregnant confused

marbles your poor DD1 she's caught everything going recently hasn't she, hope she's feeling better soon. What part of Cornwall has your brother moved to? We're looking at South of the county on the north coast for our move when it finally happens. Don't want to be too far from family here but also don't want to be on their doorstep either!

mrsn yuk full of cold too. Pyjama day was def way forward then!
heff your day sounds lovely. I love padstow. Are u on holiday or do u love round there?
We've had a calm and quiet day. Just chilling with a little walk halfway through. Just done our nighttime routine and about to go in for first transfer of the night. Sending positive sleepy thoughts to all the babies out there grin

Argh. Fort transfer fail of the night....

MiniPopsMum2012 Sat 08-Dec-12 21:54:31

hello hello hello, just a quickie as I am behind again... hope you're all well, it's been busy again which is a bad sign for sleeping babies... anyhoo, we've had two awful nights sleep, last night hardly got any and ended up with minipop sleeping on me for a fair chunk of it as I was just too tired to try and settle him back,,,

Hope all the poorly babies and children are on the mend, and poorly eyes are healing.. and anyone else that's not well.

and Heff I am right there with you about the crap other half, I am seething at the moment with mine, but that's a whole other story, and I have cold coming, too. they're just crap aren't they?

Coconut lattes are made in my own kitchen grin Nespresso have brought out a coconut espresso capsule, so I made my own latte (inspired by the gingerbread ones) and it's SOOOOOOOO nice. My lovely friends brought me a little Nespresso machine last year for my birthday and it's fab.

I've just sat down for 15 mins to eat my dinner before I start with the chores again while little one is in bed (and before supper bottle) and I seriously don't have the energy to get back up. confused

So sorry for being crap at keeping up, I feel like I am so behind on everything just lately, there just aren't enough hours in the day to get stuff done...

Wishing you all more sleep (as ever).. thanks

MrsNPattz Sat 08-Dec-12 21:59:40

2 transfer failures already - going to be one of those nights!

heff your day sounds really lovely!

mini hi - it's lovely to hear from you so keep checking in when you can smile sorry you are having rubbish nights though hmm

Ameybee Sat 08-Dec-12 22:03:22

Ah heff padstow reminds me of my childhood! Use to love it there! We use to go to a crazy golf place there that you had to walk up loads of steps to!

mrsn glad you got a mammoth lie in! Sorry u have a cold confused!

We had a lovely day at PIL - think DD wanted to stay. Came back at 715 when they were both tired but it hasn't worked with babybee. He's gotten so overtired after waking up as soon as the car stopped that I'm still trying to settle him & he wouldn't take ebm as planned. Me and DH have agreed coming home at bedtime prob not best thing whilst we are trying to establish not very successfully some sort of routine at bedtime!
I'm tired now, hoping for no 2 hourly feeds tonight! X

MiniPopsMum2012 Sat 08-Dec-12 23:21:58

Oh no MrsN hope it doesn't turn into one of those nights. I've got to do transfer shortly and I have to admit I'm not confident confused

amey I aways tty to be home before bed time routinely so that we always do it at home. Minipop's such a rubbish sleeper that I try to keep it as consistent as poss to try & helps.

MrsNPattz Sat 08-Dec-12 23:31:33

4th transfer fail.........

Susieloo Sun 09-Dec-12 00:10:05

Awake two hours since last feed........why do we have to go backwards instead of forwards!!! He is really feeding too so obvs hungry, I can't keep my eyes open.

waves at minipop and hello to everyone, eyes struggling to stay open...

HeffalumpsAndWoozles Sun 09-Dec-12 00:43:15

evil we're staying with PIL at the moment, hoping to move down here permanently in a year or so as we've both got family in the county and we just love the laid back approach people have in Cornwall. goat its cold here yes, damn windy too!

Hi minipop good to have you back, although sad at the bad nights yiuve been having. Hope you and your DH haven't had too big a row.

amey was it the one round the far side of the harbour, you had to go up a load of steps then it was a little crazy golf place almost in someone's back garden? Lots of Cornish piskies dotted about the place too!

I'm the last one up here, bit peed off with DH (again!) for bailing on me about 20 minutes ago because he "couldn't stand much more of this" (ie babylump crying a bit) and "there's no point both of us being tired" (agreed, but only I am allowed to offer that particular get out of jail free card!) Babylump finally fallen aeep on me but already had one transfer fail tonight so leaving her a bit longer before attempting again. At least Father Ted is on telly, every cloud and all that!

funchum8am Sun 09-Dec-12 00:50:05

Hi ladies, sorry to hear about all the wakeful babies! Those naughty DHS also angry . I had a great day at conference and pub after for a bit and babyfunch was fine with DH except refused the bottle from 2pm onwards til she woke up at 9pm. He kept offering, she just wasn't having it, and is feeding for 2nd time since I got back so I figure it hasn't harmed her.

I however have woken just now with earache in my left ear sad

I am envious of Cornwall fun heff...good luck everyone for the rest of the night, think we need it!

Ameybee Sun 09-Dec-12 03:11:38

Yes it was heff! Got some pics of me and my brothers playing crazy golf wearing some well dodgy board shorts blush! We also have a random family pic of us in the harbour with a parrot - someone taking them for £5! Ah I feel all nostalgic now! Sorry DH being a bit unhelpful! Sometimes u just have to tell them how it is. My DH kept following me round this am holding baby bee, even in shower - I was like err you can put him down you know - in the chair in kitchen and wash the pots like i do angry. He also got stressed tonight when babybee wouldn't settle I came up on my own with him eventually.

1st feed here but I'm not suprised the amount of screaming we had earlier must of worn him out!
Hope all the babies are behaving! X

Smallgreenone Sun 09-Dec-12 03:14:16

Cornwall sounds lovely heff, you're so lucky to be moving there.
We had a lovely day but I'm knackered and have a sore throat so think that means that I will soon be getting a cold which means that baby small will soon be getting a cold sad
It's pretend Christmas lunch with my parents tomorrow as we are with dh's family for actual Christmas. My folks haven't seen him for a few weeks so can't wait for them to see him again. Also can't wait for a delicious Sunday roast in fact might have a quick look on pub website to see if they have a menu online! I can start dreaming about it now!!!

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Sun 09-Dec-12 03:35:41

small make sure they remember to give you Yorkshire pudding! shock (not speaking from bitter experience at all, oh no retires to corner to mutter and cast dark looks at nothing in particular )

sad for all the coughs and colds going round. Hope everyone feels better soon. Remember that chocolate has medicinal qualities!

Susieloo Sun 09-Dec-12 04:24:00

grin at small, I google menus of places I'm going to eat, I also have to know what everyone else is having before I can place my order.

I feel in need of a holiday now with all the lovely images of Cornwall, we went last year and thought it was beautiful.

3rd feed of the night and he's just done 4 hours so not too bad, we are going to stay at my mum and dads for the day today and I'm trying a new recipe of slow braised pork with cider and parsnips. Also cooking and freezing some little weaning portions of carrot, squash and apple.

Hoping for another threesmile

Ameybee Sun 09-Dec-12 05:53:36

Transfer fail confused go back to sleep baby! X

MrsNPattz Sun 09-Dec-12 06:03:51

First feed here so after we finally got to bed we have just had nearly 6 hours with no interruptions Yey! It's really wild outside here too, hoping its a quick feed so I can snuggle up again. I'm eating chocolate at 6am shock but as goat says it's purely medicinal grin

When I was pregnant I was obsessed with looking online at the menus for the places we were going to eat at and picking what I was going to eat lol

Why do babies love transfer fails? Hope everyone is sleeping soundly now!

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Sun 09-Dec-12 06:09:59

susie do I detect another Good Food addict? smile tell me how the pork recipe turns out - I was thinking of making it and freezing it for Christmas.

We have been awake since 3. sad I have however whiled away the time by reading the most insane thread I have ever read on MN. shock

In 50 mins I shall consign Kid to DH and roll over for a lovely snooze.

MrsNPattz Sun 09-Dec-12 06:12:34

goat do tell - which thread??

Susieloo Sun 09-Dec-12 08:11:06

Ohhhh which thread? goat I love good food and I used to subscribe to the magazine until the recipes started coming round again, now I just get the email, there is quite a lot of stock I think for the quantities of ingredients so I'll let you know how we get on.

Babyloo went through until 7.30 so not tooooo bad a night, he's now talking to the Christmas tree.

Happy Sundays everyone smile

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Sun 09-Dec-12 08:56:11

It was the thread about whether a friend of the op wbu to bring a 6 month old baby to an evening party in a restaurant, as she couldn't leave him at home as she was bfing. At least, it started as a thread abut that, and seemed to end up being about changing a nappy unseen on a bouncy castle at midnight. hmm And when I stopped reading there were 856 posts!! shock

Kid loves ourChristmas tree, especially its reflection in the window.

Do let me know how yu get on, susie !

HeffalumpsAndWoozles Sun 09-Dec-12 09:12:03

We just got 8 hours!! grin grin

I'm in shock, we came up to bed at 1 as usual, next thing I know DD1 is patting my head going "helloooo mummyyyy" and I grudgingly get up, check the time and its 9am! Fluke or not that was lovely!

Only slight downside being I now only have an hour to get two DDs, myself and DH up, dressed, breakfasted and out the door as if we don't leave by 10 we'll be late for the christening. All systems go, and praying we don't get any poonamis!

goat I started reading that thread but got annoyed with the attitudes of some people do I had to abandon it! Although it was still on about restaurants when I did so may revisit now! There are some crazy threads about at the moment aren't there.

Wow amey small world isn't it! DH and I used to play there when we first started coming to Cornwall but I think its been gone a long time now sad

I best get going if we're going to make it on time. Have a lovely day everyone smile

MrsNPattz Sun 09-Dec-12 10:46:34

Wow - little man and I just slept until 10:10! I can forgive him for not going down until midnight now smile

heff hope you have a lovely day at the christening - and congratulations on your 8 hours, everyone must have been exhausted from your lovely day yesterday! I have a question for when you are less busy, I notice that your little one doesn't go down until late too and I was just wondering will you eventually try to get them to go earlier? I'm not sure how it can be done lol

goat I will have to have a nosy at that thread!

susie hope your cooking is successful, sounds gorgeous!

Susieloo Sun 09-Dec-12 18:20:33

Last feed before bed, well second feed after a transfer fail, he's so bunged up the poor little thing, hope his cold clears soon.

He had his first taste of food today and like his mother took to it rather well!! Got a bit frustrated because I was being extra cautious about how much I put in his mouth and was grabbing the spoon off me trying to do it himself.

I am heading to bed with my book after tea and hoping my recent bout of mild pre midnight insomnia goes away.

goat casserole is lovely-I've tasted not eaten yet but I'm really pleased with it, couple of things- I didn't add all the stock it just seemed too much and even then I still reduced the liquid further on the hob after the 2 hours in the oven, also benefits from a healthy dollop of salt and tastes nicer as they all do now it has been out of the oven for a bit so would be great to freeze.

Have a good night everyone smile

Ameybee Sun 09-Dec-12 20:34:18

Had a lovely day here - spent some nice time with DD, she helped me clean this morning, then we baked fairy cakes (delicious) then we all went to the garden centre and bought a real tree for the conservatory & decorated it with some Xmas tunes on grin DS liked the lights!
I have no idea when bedtime will be tonight as we were going to give him a bath but he fell asleep at 7 for an hour on me then woke up full of beans?!?
He's been trying so hard to roll over all day - hopefully that's worn him out! X

HeffalumpsAndWoozles Sun 09-Dec-12 21:02:19

Ah that sounds like a really nice day amey, wish we could have a real tree I love the smell!

mrsn I will try to bring bedtime forward eventually but for now we're just going with the late nights. I don't think they can really learn 'bedtime' much before 6 months so other than trying to mange daytime naps and do all the usual night time things like dim lights tv down etc I'm just resigned to the fact that I'll be watching a lot of late night telly for the next few months! Trying hard to remind myself its not forever as I'd kill for an early night!

Our little nephew's christening today was lovely. He looked so smart & handsome in his tiny suit and all the babies & children were really well behaved...apart from babylump who let off a series of loud and violent farts during the silent prayers blush

Tonight I had a curry-off with FIL, he had what he reckoned was the 'hottest curry sauce ever' and couldn't finish it so I thought we'll that's a challenge right there...I managed the lot <proud> but might perhaps regret it later!

It's our last night here, PIL taking DD1 out for a day at Newquay zoo tomorrow so DH & I have got a quiet day with babylump before heading home in the evening. Hope we get a good night tonight we're all knackered from being out all day today.

Sleepy dust to all xx

MrsNPattz Sun 09-Dec-12 21:48:01

Not a bad day here, although got wound up by the in laws yet again. PIL and SIL were coming to visit, THEY asked us what time so we said 1 - half 2 they turned up! It really bugs me how they obviously don't think about us! Anyhoo, we put our tree up too with little man's 'my first Christmas 2012' bauble taking pride of place grin

heff that's good to know as I can't see bedtime here getting earlier anytime soon! Glad you had a good day.

amey wow nearly rolling over already!! Our little man hates tummy time and barely lifts his head yet blush although his head is definitely getting stronger!

Ameybee Sun 09-Dec-12 21:49:48

Ha ha heff farts during prayers always funny! grin
Hoping baby bee transfers soon successfully! DH is in with me tonight and he's already sniffling and coughing - night kick him out soon! confused X mrsn did LO sleep through till that time or wake for feeds inbetween? X

MrsNPattz Sun 09-Dec-12 21:51:08

And goat whereabouts is that thread? I can't find it! Thanks

MrsNPattz Sun 09-Dec-12 21:51:46

amey he woke once at ten to 6!

HeffalumpsAndWoozles Sun 09-Dec-12 23:47:33

That's annoying and quite rude of them mrsn, did they phone to let you know they would be late? I'd be annoyed too.

I'm watching the snooker final with DH while begging babylump to go to sleep, I'm so tired after today and she's resisting any attempts to get her to drop off.

link to thread for you mrsn

First feed of the night here. Hoping DD will last for a few hours afterwards grin
mrsn a couple of weeks ago baby elvis would scream from 9-2am and would go down anytime during that time. I couldn't cope with that! Now around 8pm she has time on the mat kicking around with her nappy off, followed by bath if she is due one and then massaged every night with johnsons bedtime lotion. We then have a final feed in bed with the lights low. This has helped amazingly and she is usually asleep by 10. Sometimes she's too unsettled so it's later but not often. She's still really small (7weeks) so not strict but sending out the same signal every night has given us some structure. I can't stay awake until late at night, I'm rubbish at it!
Hope u all sleep well!

StuntNun Mon 10-Dec-12 01:00:28

1 a.m. and I still haven't got to sleep. I don't know how I'm supposed to do anything in the day, looking after J is a full time job. DH made dinner but didn't do the washing up so I have that to look forward to once I get the kids to school tomorrow. I hope J finishes this feed soon so I can get a little bit of sleep before the alarm goes off.

Susieloo Mon 10-Dec-12 01:06:19

1st feed of the night but just had a transfer fail just as I was nodding back off. Really hoping he goes through until gone 6, I can dream....

funchum8am Mon 10-Dec-12 03:15:58

stunt you poor thing, maybe leave the washing up and get DH to do it when he gets home? I do very little housework at the moment as babyfunch often naps when we are out in the cat or the buggy so I am busy with her when at home. Luckily DH prefers the housework as he thinks he does it better!

heff the christening sounds lovely! DH is organising babyfunch's as I am an atheist but he is making a right mess of it having some issues getting everyone we want and need there on a date when all are free, so it may be a way off!

Babyfunch has miraculously slept since we put her to bed extra early (after even a bath didn't wake her for long) so about 6.30pm until 3am! My boobs are exploding but I am a happy mummy...I just hope she sleeps some more tonight and can go this long a bit more regularly! smile

Sorry to hear some babies are such night owls...there doesn't seem to be much of a happy medium!

funchum8am Mon 10-Dec-12 03:55:25

Oh dear, megavom situation....just had to change both of us! sad

Susieloo Mon 10-Dec-12 04:16:37

Up again, I knew my three night good run wouldn't last.

Second feed finished 15 minutes ago and mini elvis is now lying in her Moses basket looking very much awake and as if she's having a great time. It's 4am!!!!! Sleeeeeep baby hmm

Smallgreenone Mon 10-Dec-12 04:30:52

1st feed since 11 so not too bad.
We need to get on the case with our christening too. DH is being awkward about it because I want it in the church we got married in which is near my parents and he thinks its too far for jus family to travel (north east to midlands). I'm of the opinion though that they have cars and if they want to come then its an extra hour on the motorway than it would be to where we live so makes hardly any difference. I'm going to get my way on this!
Lunch today was delicious and I got a Yorkshire pudding!!! I also had treacle tart and clotted cream for pud, mmmmmmmm yummy!
Attempting transfer. Expecting a fail!

Susieloo Mon 10-Dec-12 04:47:02

Still up.....

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Mon 10-Dec-12 06:06:58

What. A. Night.
Kid still can't really breathe very comfortably and still wants to tell the world about it. Unfortunately he has most of his voice back too! He wriggled and kicked and boxed and yelled and explained and rolled and scratched and did everything bar the hokey cokey. Then of course had a vom because he had worked himself up so much. sad
And today I have to go over to my old house and finish packing it up, because it will complete on Thursday. Well, I guess the upside of all this may be that he will be so exhausted that he will sleep and let me get on with things.
Sorry not to name check, am zombie-in-waiting.
Though grin at the thought of a curry-off!

StuntNun Mon 10-Dec-12 08:08:45

Thanks Funch. DH got up early and did it! He still isn't forgiven though because he got up and turned the alarm off so now I haven't got time for a shower before I have to head out. hmm

Smallgreenone Mon 10-Dec-12 08:47:00

I didnt get a transfer fail so had another three hours. Amazing! Sorry for all those with bad nights.
Good luck packing today goat
Monday is house tidy day for us and then baby yoga later which I think I enjoy more than baby small!

MrsNPattz Mon 10-Dec-12 09:50:29

Well well well ladies, my little star just slept from 11:30 until 9!! I woke at just after 7 and expressed a little then went back to sleep. Just what I have been needing!! Sorry to sound smug when there have been some rubbish nights! I'm still full of cold this morning but hubby has a half day to take me to the eye hospital later so will have an extra pair of hands this afternoon.

heff thanks for the link! They text at 2 to say they were just getting ready angry

elvis thank you so much! We try and have a routine and I take him upstairs at about half 8/9 so it's quiet and dark but sometimes I can be there 3 hours before he is down properly! I guess it just takes time, although I'm not really complaining when he then sleeps 9 hours!! wink

Ameybee Mon 10-Dec-12 18:12:19

mrsn I am green with envy ;)! That is fantastic! Sounds like he's getting there! We found that DD just settled earlier as time went on so I wouldn't worry.
We've just bathed both of them as they were tired, much earlier than usual if DS goes down but figured as it usually takes an hour or 2 to settle him then I've got a head start! He's been very good today although naps were on me as DD had a friend over & they were playing happily noisily upstairs!! Xx

Smallgreenone Mon 10-Dec-12 19:40:52

Baby small is in bed and so am I as feeling poorly sad
I had to buy some salted caramel profiteroles to help me through the day grin they are delicious!

Susieloo Mon 10-Dec-12 20:06:10

Just popped on to catch up before I go to sleep and small you have to tell me where I can get salted caramel profiteroles from-they sound amazing and I'm ravenous so could eat a million!!

MrsNPattz Mon 10-Dec-12 20:19:18

Evening all!

I had my hospital appointment about my eyes today - they are making me another appointment with a surgeon to discuss my options! If it flares up again I can go straight in for bandage contact lenses blush

I also have an appointment tomorrow with my health visitor for a chat.

small oh yum - they are from M&S aren't they? I have to go there on Thurs so will be purchasing some grin

amey I hope so!

We are putting my baby boy in his big cot tonight for the first time, I feel a little bit sad sad

funchum8am Mon 10-Dec-12 21:11:27

Erm, I feel a visit to M&S coming on blush

mrsn at least they are taking your needs seriously, good luck with the doctors!

DH has made a lovely dinner and we have shared a bottle of wine which is naughty, especially on a Monday. If babyfunch wakes up for a feed before the wine is out of my system I will have to defrost some ebm for her. Oops. Bad mummy.

My stepmum has come down from oop north to visit for the afternoon, and we have had a fab afternoon catching up and looking at ferry times and prices, booking a villa, and checking out vineyards near where we are staying on a family holiday to France for her 50th next year. It was lovely to spend time with someone who sees babyfunch as part of a wider family context and isn't just focused on her next feed....that probably sounds really odd but I know what I mean!

Better get me to bed as I can't depend on her sleeping straight through til 3am again! Good luck for the night everyone....

Smallgreenone Mon 10-Dec-12 23:04:38

Yes m and s susieloo and they are on 3 for 2 and freezable. I have stocked up!
Sending this from my death bed..........feel awful. Poor DH has been banished to upstairs as I don't want him to catch it. And poor baby small who will no doubt get it. Unless its mastitis again which it might be as right up in my armpit is a bit sore but then it could be just part of the virus, will see how I go. If I don't return it's been nice knowing you.....................!
<melodramatic smiley>

Ameybee Mon 10-Dec-12 23:07:52

There are times when I wish DH had boobs and tonight is one of them! DS has changed his mind and refused e earlier confused I'm so knackered I came to bed at 9 and he's just woke up - transfer fail, I need zzz! DH is sleeping already - I have never heard anyone breathe so loudly! I'm jealous of him getting 7 hours sleep in a row! I want some!! X

Ameybee Mon 10-Dec-12 23:08:26

Refused ebm that's meant to say! X

Ameybee Mon 10-Dec-12 23:10:41

small hope you feel better soon & its not mastitis! DH has been moping about like a wet lettuce with his cold all day confused, if i wasn't so tired I'd be more sympathetic towards him ;) x

MissingMyBaubles Mon 10-Dec-12 23:35:01

I'm on the SECOND feed of the night already hmm seemingly we are back to less than 2 hourssad Please let this just be a top up before an 8 hour stretchhmm <wishful thinking smiley>
Last night was 2-3 hourly but then we had a wee leak and singing and dancing at 6.39 this morning so I brought her in with me and we slept til 9 &#128564;(DD1 off again today but will be back tomorrow)

Susieloo Tue 11-Dec-12 00:11:31

First feed since relatively easy bed at 6, he does seem very awake though and is talking to the man in the moon which went on for over an hour last night, sorry to hear of all the poorliness. I am on a kit day tomorrow and will be heading straight to m and sgrin

HeffalumpsAndWoozles Tue 11-Dec-12 00:41:43

Oh no small hope you're feeling better soon & its not mastitis again sad

We've just got home, journey not too bad after a dodgy start (spectacular vom-a-thon from babylump necessitating full change of clothes half way up the A30) DD1 has gone straight back to sleep upstairs but babylump is wide awake, although she was a really good girl and slept for the whole drive back (unlike DD1 who spent the first half yelling "mummy booobs, booooobs muummmyyy!!" [by boobs she means boots, as in the welly boots I had taken off her when she refused to stop chewing them... hmm ]).

How are all the babies behaving tonight? mrsn hooray for your lovely long stretch last night smile

Twobuttonsaway Tue 11-Dec-12 02:39:21

First feed since 7:30 here, thread is quiet so hoping lots of sleeping going on. Hoping for swift transfer as he appears to be drinking milk in his sleep!smile

funchum8am Tue 11-Dec-12 02:44:34

amey and missing - lots of sympathy!

Susie best of luck for your kit day smile

babyfunch slept through from 6:30 to 2:30 shock ...second night in a row of dropping the 10:30 feed. But I am not allowing myself to get excited, it is not going to last will be devastated if it doesn't now

funchum8am Tue 11-Dec-12 02:45:34

small I have my fingers crossed for you that it is not mastitis and you feel better very soon sad sad

Ameybee Tue 11-Dec-12 03:04:38

Crap night here confused 3rd time up, although I knew he hadn't fed well last time but I daren't play nappy roulette after what happened last time shock!
heff car vomathon must've have been confused - grin at mummy boobies tho! My DD keeps telling me she's feeding her baby twins?!? Adventurous bf twins love!! X stingy eyes!

Smallgreenone Tue 11-Dec-12 03:26:57

Well I'm still alive! First feed since 11. Am feeding from the sore side just in case it is the dreaded M...............
Actually don't feel any worse so that's good I suppose.
Cold tonight here if he wakes again he'll have to come into bed, too cold to get up again.
I'm absolutely starving tonight perhaps I need to brave the cold and venture downstairs for another profiterole grin

Susieloo Tue 11-Dec-12 03:39:43

Eyes stinging and shutting on their own.

MissingMyBaubles Tue 11-Dec-12 03:48:42

Stinging eyes is right!! I have one closed!

I typed the above and then a combined cough/burp/fart resulted in a vim argon do we've just had a full strip down and are now wide awake. Both of ussad

Hope it's not mastitis Small

Sounds like you've just about cracked this sleeping lark Susie. We make one step forward then ten backwardssad

And good work, babies Funch and Buttonssmile

I'm with you in the DH feeding front, Amey; although I wouldn't want DH to have proper moobs. I think that would freak me out slightlygrin

grin @ your DD Heff.

Attempting transfer. I repeat, attempting transfer. Over and out.

MissingMyBaubles Tue 11-Dec-12 03:50:00

Vomathon was autocorrected to vim argon hmm....

MissingMyBaubles Tue 11-Dec-12 03:58:22

Bollocks! Pardon the language. It appeared we had successful self settling going on, but I though I heard vomiting so came in to check. No vomiting but disturbed Missmarbles, which I think constitutes a transfer fail hmm

sad x-posts with Susie, (because it did take me that long to finish postgrin), hope you get back to sleep soon.

Trying again.......

funchum8am Tue 11-Dec-12 04:06:41

Feeding again here after the usual transfer followed by 20 mins sleep followed by reflux waking her up again sad. I really need that to stop happening, as it means I am effectively up from the 2/3am feed onwards sad. Might see gp about getting some gaviscon.

MrsNPattz Tue 11-Dec-12 05:19:41

First feed here since 10:30! I woke at 3:30 though with a dripping nose sad feel awful, I have swollen glands too so it's definitely not the mastitis. small you poor thing - I really hope it's not! Hope you feel better this morning. I'm sure little man is going to catch my cold, how could he not when I'm breathing all over him!

Lol heff, thanks - hope you got to sleep eventually! And everyone else has too!

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Tue 11-Dec-12 05:27:06

Second feed of night! A record I think. If you don't count the I'm-so-starving wails at 2:30, then when I tried to feed him, the what-on-earth-are-you-doing look hmm
I am knackered after a day of packing up my old house ready for completion on Thursday. Will read and respond in the morning! 5:30 def does not count as morningl)
See you later...

Well. DD had a crappy evening of inconsolable crying. Eventually calmed, fed and settled at 2230. Convinced myself it was going to be a crappy night but no! This is first feed! 7 hours! I obviously didn't sleep and my boobs were killing me, but still! WOHOOO grin
Hope everyone else had good nights too

Twobuttonsaway Tue 11-Dec-12 07:20:45

Mixed nights it seems, baby buttons did 7:30pm then 2am and then went through to 6:30am - oh please let this be a habit... And one which you can all catch as easily as a cold!

Sorry for being rubbish at name checking -app makes it hard and brain has dried up! Hope mastitis fears are unfounded, colds go quickly and babies are smiley and happy today. wink

Smallgreenone Tue 11-Dec-12 07:54:04

It is mastitis sad big red patch on boob. Will go to the dr for some antibiotics today. Bollocks.
Quite a good night by baby small though with just one wake up.

Ameybee Tue 11-Dec-12 09:26:55

Sorry its mastitis small sad I hope you feel much better soon! X

HeffalumpsAndWoozles Tue 11-Dec-12 10:06:14

Oh no small , bollocks indeed sad hope it clears up ASAP.

We slept 1.30 to 6 which isn't half bad, then once DD1 was up dressed and out the door on way to childminder we got another couple if hours until 9 so I'm feeling ok this morning. Going for NCT coffee in a minute so hopefully the caffeine will finish the job of waking me up.

Just been weed on... hmm best go change. See you all later, lovely days all round. xx

MrsNPattz Tue 11-Dec-12 11:47:03

Oh no small really sorry! Do you think if you have had it before you are more susceptible to it? Hope you feel better very soon!

Just had a good chat with my health visitor and feel a bit better about things. Think I'm going to see my GP in the next few weeks too to see if my medication needs upping!

Hope you all have good days everyone, we are in for the day now and just going to snuggle!

blonderthanred Tue 11-Dec-12 13:33:00

Hello, sorry I haven't posted for a while, been feeling a bit overwhelmed with it all. Also phone is on DH's side of the bed as I have a cot on mine (they need to include in-built bedside tables for specs/phone etc, I may write to the Bednest people) so even when I've wanted to post it's been difficult without disturbing him.

Sorry to hear about the issues with mastitis and family sickness. It must be so difficult to juggle.

We've had a couple of quite good nights with patterns of 4 hrs + 2 hrs of sleeping in cot, combined with DH taking him for an hr or two in the morning, meant I've had the chance to sleep too. Unfortunately also had some incredibly wakeful nights - no distress or reason for it, just wide open eyes and wriggling out of bedclothes. Wouldn't even sleep on my chest. Much better than the colicky windy screaming all night, but still impossible to put down and get some sleep!

Anyway just to say I am thinking of the night crew and hoping you are all having sleepy babies and successful transfers each night.

Ameybee Tue 11-Dec-12 14:12:37

Zzzzz I'm tired this afternoon sad. Been doing a bit of Xmas shopping in Costco (avoided food aisle). Done a few bits online this afternoon.
Feel very fat today, I stayed the same on ww for 2 weeks but I haven't been very good - so difficult when I've been so knackered! I only have one pair of jeans that fit me which is quite difficult when I need to wash them! I read an article about bf and in it says that the biggest fat burning of bf is between 3-6 months so let's hope I get skinny then grin x

MrsNPattz Tue 11-Dec-12 16:33:26

Wow amey I hope that's true grin I can never resist Costco choc shortbread! In fact we are going at the weekend as I love their homemade Christmas present labels so will be stocking up grin

Smallgreenone Tue 11-Dec-12 18:15:36

Not sure mrsn its the other boob thus time so probably unrelated. Feeling very sorry for myself and waiting for the antibiotics to kick in. Ive fed him from it all day but i swear its got worse not better.
Going straight to bed after this feed. Hopefully I'll be a bit better after some rest. It's times like these I really wish we lived nearer home, could really do with my mum to have come today and helped. MIL lives round the corner but wasn't available to help out today- typical!!
Will be back later with a more positive post!!

Ameybee Tue 11-Dec-12 19:10:27

Virtual hug small hope some rest helps!
Baby bee is now refusing ebm confused he has got himself into a right state over it sad. I don't really know what time of night is best to try it with him, we've just tried post bath with no joy. I'm sure some of the babies on this thread have ebm - what time do you do it? mrsn have you tried your LO with a bottle at all? And yes the choc shortbread is amazing! I could eat an entire box! Hence my fat arse! Really wish our evenings were a bit more settled, I miss just chilling on the sofa for an hour or two.
Had to take DS to gp tonight as he has a very sore looking winky since Friday blush he has some cream now bless him! Xx

MrsNPattz Tue 11-Dec-12 20:24:29

I have only tried it a couple of times amey - the first time he took it fine but it have him terrible wind, so we changed bottles then the last 2 times he only took a tiny amount as he wasn't hungry. I am out on Thursday lunch time so will have to leave some for MIL so will see how it goes. I'm dreading leaving him sad but I know I need to do it for myself. I know what you mean about evenings, I miss snuggling up with hubby! Hopefully we will get them back soon!

small sending my sympathies! Did you get antibiotics? I know what you mean about wanting your mum closer, it's rubbish!

I was sorting some things out for little mans memory box before and got really emotional - looking at the things from the hospital and stuff, blub blub lol

MrsNPattz Tue 11-Dec-12 21:25:04

susie please could you tell me where you got your light projector from? Do the lights move on the ceiling or stay still? I have just bought one and I'm a bit disappointed - it's lovely but it just flicks between two different images on the ceiling and I'm not sure what good that's going to do. Thanks!

Evening all grin first feed of the night so thought of check in. Would lurve another night like last night but without me checking DD is breathing
Has a positive day today with the BFing, started to feel comfortable with it finally. now if I could just figure out how to not walk around with my boobs flopped out
Sorry about the mastitis and difficulty with expressed feeding, no advice but am watching closely. grin
Here's to a sleepy night...

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Tue 11-Dec-12 21:44:53

mrsn I have a Winnie-the-pooh light projector. It has music as well as lights, the lights are great but unfortunately you can't turn the sound off! Still Kid seems to love it and the pictures kind of go in circles.
small so sorry about the mastitis. I hope it clears up soon, and that LO helps heal it by feeding well!
amey I wouldn't be any use about em, Kid would always suck on anything, any time hmm I always swore we would not use a dummy, but he had other ideas. Seems to be weaning himself off it, though!
blonder I hope the good nights are increasing! Four hours sounds lovely...
baubles your vim argon made me grin There was something Reminiscent in the phrase of an epic Greek tragedy!
heff I enjoyed reading about your Cornish escapades, sounds I've you all had a great time. Must have also strengthened your desire to move down there?
funch and susie fingers crossed and thumbs pressed for tonight.
elvis and two do get your babies to prewd the good night germs! I hope they travel well!
Hello to everyone else I have missed. Finishing moving house today and am now shattered. Hooray for a wonderful MIL who came and spirited Kid off to look after him while I finished things up.

blonderthanred Tue 11-Dec-12 22:05:18

Goat if only it happened every night! Moving house must have been a stress but glad you had help.

Amey the choc shortbread sounds fab. I'm delighted to hear the bf weight loss isn't due till 12 weeks as I can kid myself that's why I'm still getting fatter for the next few weeks (and not the 'chocolate biscuits two ways' DH presented me with during MasterChef).

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Tue 11-Dec-12 22:22:18

Chocolate biscuits two ways??? What is this divineness of which you speak?...

blonderthanred Tue 11-Dec-12 22:25:21

It was some chocolate fingers sandwiched between two chocolate digestives. A classic dish, perfectly executed.

Susieloo Tue 11-Dec-12 22:32:07

Evening all, disappointed to be here so early in the evening but lovely to see you all. I am as always when reading this thread now hungry, popped into m and s to pick up some salted caramel profiteroles and they had sold out!!

mrsn the projector I have is called a homedic lullaby sound machine with projection or something similar, I got it from amazon after posting a thread on here asking for recommendations. The sound and projection can be used together or separately which was a major point for me because sometimes the noise of baby things drives me bonkers!! The projection moves in a circle above the cot and can be really big depending on the angle you set it at, I'm watching it at the moment and it covers a least half the cot if not more. It comes with three projection discs, a night scene and two other scenes all animals but I've only ever put the night scene on. Some of the reviews on amazon have complained that the projection disc revolving is too loud (the discs are the size of a 50p) but I haven't found this. Babyloo loves it and I use both sound and light functions on it. It was quite pricey but I remember it was the only one that came with a projection only function on it and variable sounds.

Hope that helps!!

Attempting transfer..........

MrsNPattz Tue 11-Dec-12 22:32:14

Thanks for the recommendation goat!

blonder lol! Yum!

Susieloo Tue 11-Dec-12 22:33:33

small hope the antibiotics are kicking in for you and you start to feel better soon.

MrsNPattz Tue 11-Dec-12 22:33:51

susie that sounds to have a nosy! Thanks smile

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Tue 11-Dec-12 22:41:10

Only 10:30 and already we have had a nappy leak (change one) and a vomathon (change two) and now Kid is lying here talking to the door handle hmm

funchum8am Tue 11-Dec-12 23:27:09

Hi all, I have had a lovely treat - a friend got me a ticket for the all-female production of Julius Caesar in London and DH agreed to have babyfunch so I have been to that. It was fab smile

Ebm - I was/am absolutely determined not to be unable to have time away from babyfunch plus am going back to work before she is 5 months so we have persevered! it can take weeks but that is normal, I think you just have to keep trying every day or two. I have tried to leave bottle stuff entirely to DH as I don't need to use them, obviously, and he has been very good at getting to grips with storing and sterilising etc. He tries to give her an early morning bottle but she often refuses, but will take one at other times of day from him, DM, childminder or me (when she refuses one and it goes back in the fridge I try to give it her later as cannot bear the waste!). I think you have to catch them when they are hungry but still calm and stay confident that they will not starve themselves! Some say that mum needs to go out really as baby will otherwise know she is there with the alternative! Or book them in to a childminder for a few hours...that is what worked for us and gave us confidence to persevere, as she had only taken a few bottles before but takes them most of the time now. good luck!

small SO sorry to hear it is mastitis....lots if sympathy coming your way from here sad

goat glad to hear you got the house sorted!

waves to everyone!

blonderthanred Tue 11-Dec-12 23:48:44

funch that production sounds amazing. Would love to get to it but we are nowhere near that stage yet! Very good to hear the advice about expressing, I keep giving it a go and getting very disheartened about how little I get out but need to persevere I think. Glad you are having some success with it.

Susieloo Wed 12-Dec-12 00:35:57

Up again a whole two hours since last feed, it's my work team meeting and Xmas lunch tomorrow so leaving at 8 and not home till 3 ish so it will be the longest I've ever left him, really looking forward to my first Christmas dinner of the year but not looking forward to the getting up and out for 8 bit!!

Ameybee Wed 12-Dec-12 00:48:07

blonder your DH sounds like a master chef! I fancy that now! DH bought me some flake cakes from shop - they are very tasty grin 3 pro points!!

funch thanks for expressing info, will have to persevere, think we are trying when he's too starving and irrational tho!

goat that was an amazing name check, I am generally pretty rubbish at name checks!

First feed since 9 here but its our usual sleepy one so ill prob be back by 2 confusedconfused!

Smallgreenone Wed 12-Dec-12 03:14:49

Hi all and thanks for all sympathies. I have stopped shivering so perhaps antibiotics are starting to work. Baby small hasa big job to do but has unfortunately fallen asleep on the job hmm
Oh no susie how awful to be sold out of the profiteroles. Am sure they'll have more in soon.
We have a projector too but it doesn't send baby small to sleep he just watches it happily and then cries when it ends.
Right going for transfer and back to bed although expect to be back later as he's only had a tiny feed.
Oh meant to say well done on packing goat are you moving somewhere nice?

MrsNPattz Wed 12-Dec-12 03:46:25

First feed here so not as good as previous nights but still a 4.5 stretch for him.

Little man has his next injections today, boooo hmm hubby is off so that's good - they are early at ten past 9 so we have to be ready quickly in the morning.

susie do you feel ok about leaving little one? I have my works Christmas lunch tomorrow and am sad about leaving him with MIL. Not going to back out though.

I hope they have these profiteroles when I go tomorrow!

Ameybee Wed 12-Dec-12 03:48:05

angry I'm being used as a human dummy tonight and its doing my head in!!! FFS just take a proper feed and go to sleep!!!!!!

Ameybee Wed 12-Dec-12 04:19:06

mrsn babybee has his jabs today! Ours are at 1230, I am contemplating the breastfeeding support group in the morning but don't think I can bear to go asking the same advice about sleeping. Just fed up of him taking tiny feeds at night & getting no sleep. sad X

StuntNun Wed 12-Dec-12 05:01:07

I'm checking in but too tired to write much. Oh for four hours straight sleep. Or a daytime nap, remember those? Tomorrow I'll try to cover up the bags under my eyes.

MissingMyBaubles Wed 12-Dec-12 05:15:28

Bed at 7. Fed at 10, 12.30, 4.30 (woop a 4 hour stretch). I was starving so nipped downstairs for a cup of tea and a digestive came back up to discover a transfer failure, have changed a very full nappy and now have a very chatty Missmarbles on by hands confused

MissingMyBaubles Wed 12-Dec-12 05:39:27

Transfer FAILsad Back in chair with baby on shoulder, who is fast asleep. Until I put her in the cot and its like someone flicks a switch.
Must. Not. Fall. Asleep.

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Wed 12-Dec-12 05:39:35

Ooh stunt daytime naps... <misty-eyed emoticon>

If kid does not go back to sleep after this feed, I will be selling him, if anyone would like to make a matching pair?

Susieloo Wed 12-Dec-12 05:42:52

Longest stretch of the night from 12.30 until now, he's chatting away to the pretty pictures and not sure if this is us done or not now, my alarm is due to go off in an hour anyway.

mrsn I feel ok about leaving him, much better than I used too!!

MissingMyBaubles Wed 12-Dec-12 06:13:05

Transfer fail after fail after fail. And now I'm really pissed off because she's in bed with us and chatting and opportunity for sleep is diminishing, whereas if I'd brought her in here an hour and a half ago.....

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Wed 12-Dec-12 06:17:54

I've changed my mind about selling him. You can have him FREE.

Smallgreenone Wed 12-Dec-12 07:18:22

Giggling at goats offer of a free kid!!! I took baby small into bed again, nasty little habit I'm getting into but he sleeps so much better so if we get a transfer fail like we always do I just bring him in here. Feeling much more human this morning so now just got to work on clearing the blockage which is still very sore.
amey I took baby small last week to a breastfeeding group about his two hourly sleep and they all said it was totally normal and milk was better at night blah blah blah. Anyway it was actually his 3 month growth spurt ad he stopped and went back to 'normal' feeding - took until 14 weeks. I felt like a human dummy too but I think that's them increasing your milk supply. There's another one at 16 weeks apparently so not looking forward to that!

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Wed 12-Dec-12 07:30:44

STILL talking to that door handle. I have a feeling it disagreed with him at one point, because he got a bit cross. we are, however, obviously back to more conversational matters.

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Wed 12-Dec-12 07:31:10

And now it has told a joke!

MrsNPattz Wed 12-Dec-12 07:40:01

Second feed here and up for the day. I can't stop coughing - coughs are disastrous when you have a baby aren't they! I have tried to keep it down but it's the tickly throat kind so nigh on impossible!

amey aw good luck - will be thinking of you! I think going to the support group might be really beneficial for you!

susie so it does get easier then! It's obviously on my mind as all my dreams last night were about me going for a meal (pizza hut!! Lol) but me running late so I had to bring him with me blush

goat I love your posts - although I am sorry you had a rotten night! marbles same to you!

Waves to stunt

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Wed 12-Dec-12 08:58:10

17:16 after several attempts at victory through weaponry of various sorts, Kid trundles out the big guns - the largest smile ever, and a series of cute coos and gurgles.

17:17 mummy waves white flag of surrender.

Smallgreenone Wed 12-Dec-12 09:03:05

Such a clever door handle! Every home should have one!

funchum8am Wed 12-Dec-12 09:13:49

Oh goat your posts do make me giggle!

Small, glad to hear there is some improvement, fingers crossed it continues apace.

Amey you sound just like me, I get really frustrated at constant night wakings.

Last night was pretty bad - I couldn't get to sleep til after midnight having woken babyfunch for a feed about 12 in an attempt to get her to sleep past 2am. However the reflux kicked in early so I didn't get any stretch longer than about 2 hrs. Took her into bed and kicked dh out at ten to four and she fed lying down til 7am on and off, but at least i got a bit of sleep that way, though every time she lost latch she cried so i would wake up and put her back on. Payback for escaping to the theatre I suppose! She is now having a nap but I can hear gurgling so suspect it is only a ten minute job sad

On the plus side I am going to be near an M&S today so may find some dessert items just fall into my basket....if they have sold out I might cry though!!

HeffalumpsAndWoozles Wed 12-Dec-12 09:33:13

Morning all smile

We had a good night again from half 1 to now. If only she could shift it forward a little so we weren't up so late every night, but I'm not going to complain too much as she is at least sleeping well once I finally get her down. We had a difficult evening, she got so over tired and just yelled the house down for hours until finally dropping off properly.

We went to get weighed yesterday, babylump truly is a lump at 14lb 14oz now! I felt all proud thinking "I've done that", I find it so amazing that we are able to provide so perfectly for our babies. Obviously all the cakes are helping... wink

funch that show sounds fab, so glad you got some time to yourself. On an unrelated note are you going to the sling library on Monday?

goat no one can resist the power of a massive baby grin, you had no choice but to surrender! Kid's antics are giving me a good chuckle grin

Hope you start to feel better small

Also hope all the babies who have had their jabs are soon feeling back to normal.

Ameybee Wed 12-Dec-12 13:48:56

We had all out wailing after jabs sad poor sausage! How did your little man do mrsn?
I went to the bf group, was quite helpful & lots of people with babies who don't sleep either which is reassuring! She's told me to keep trying to bottle between the 7pm-9pm fussiness, by distracting him too, seeing as he likes hair dryer lots might try it during drying DD's hair agree bath! Will be giving a dose of calpol as soon as he wakes up & fingers crossed for a peaceful afternoon! X

MrsNPattz Wed 12-Dec-12 14:32:33

Sat on the sofa like Daisy the cow expressing for tomorrow - aaahhhh I'm really dreading it, every time I think of leaving him my stomach sinks and I want to cry/do cry - is this normal? Or am I just an emotional freak? Lol

Little mans jabs were ok - he cried, obviously, but not for very long. I cried too but not as much as last time. He's sleeping lots since though but other than that fingers crossed seems ok.

I breast fed in public for the first time today blush, at Frankie and Benny's. it was quiet and we asked to sit in a corner in case I did need to feed him, but it was pretty successful. I had chocolate honeycomb waffles for pudding - yum yum yum! Made up for every single pudding I couldn't have when pregnant due to gestational diabetes!

MrsNPattz Wed 12-Dec-12 14:33:33

Really glad you got to the group amey and it helped a little smile

Ameybee Wed 12-Dec-12 14:59:26

God no mrsn totally normal not to want to leave him! I was exactly same first time I left DD & I still miss her terribly now if she stays at grandmas! DS is also asleep .. But on me! Very comfortable and snuggly but I'm not getting much done or getting any sleep myself! X

MrsNPattz Wed 12-Dec-12 17:25:46

amey we just managed to have a sleep snuggled up together - bliss! Hope your little one is still doing ok!

Smallgreenone Wed 12-Dec-12 18:15:16

Oh poor little ones having jabs. Baby small has his on Tuesday but they will be his last ones until he's a year old so hoorah for that! Bedtime for him now as his lunchtime nap went wrong and he has been grumpy ever since. Although did manage a late afternoon snuggly catnap with him which was bliss just wish it could have been longer...............
I've nearly completed my Christmas shopping just a couple more pressies to go and we are done. Phew. Wondering if I should get baby small a swing- anyone got one and does it put them to sleep?!

funchum8am Wed 12-Dec-12 18:47:01

I feel bad that I don't feel like crying when I leave babyfunch with others - it is certainly the expected response! Definitely normal mrsn. I on the other hand am a stony hearted career womangrin It is a good job DH is very motherly, bless him!

babyfunch has been grizzly again today. might be because I have laid off the infacol so need to get back on that. We spent the afternoon in bed as I was desperate for a nap and it was lovely and snuggly smile. We never made it to m&s thoughsad

about to put her to bed which is usually easy but we will see if the grizzle monster gets us!

MrsNPattz Wed 12-Dec-12 19:21:31

small we have a swing chair and our little man loves it! Puts him to sleep too smile

funch just shows how different we all are - good on ya career lady grin I think it's because it's the first time I'm leaving him with MIL too - I don't think I would feel so bad if it was my mum!

MissingMyBaubles Wed 12-Dec-12 22:15:22

It was DD1's Christmas performance tonight - they were brill, bless them smile

Missmarbles fed just before they started (it was a 6.30 start = bedtime) and slept all the way through to the clapping at the end. She looked wrecked but then by the time we got home was bouncing off the ceiling (very funny but not great for bedtime) so she then didn't go down til 9.15shock Really hope that it means she will sleep til 4 or maybe even 5, wouldn't that be lovelyhmm

Can't wait for Christmas and going to my mum and dad's. I am really missing them at the moment.

envy at the daytime naps.

Hope the injected babies get over them quickly, and sleep them off wink

MissingMyBaubles Wed 12-Dec-12 22:41:55

And she's been up another two times since last post...

MissingMyBaubles Wed 12-Dec-12 22:43:44

Yes that's less than half an hour and only an hour before that. Think I'm in for a rough nightsad....

HeffalumpsAndWoozles Wed 12-Dec-12 23:49:20

small we've got a swing, a lovely friend bought it for us when DD1 was born and its been very well used for both DDs. DD1 was a very clingy baby and it was the only thing I could put her down in for more than two minutes. DD2, who is a more relaxed baby anyway, will happily swing away in it for 15 minutes some days and often she does fall asleep for a lot longer. Definitely worth it I'd say.

We're having another shouty night, she's over tired and letting me know in no uncertain terms that it is my fault!

Did the dreaded office visit today, it was quite awkward as expected but the girls were all really happy to see us and I just tried not to hang around too long, especially once she started showing off her impressive lung capacity. Glad it's done now, I've been avoiding it for weeks!

For tonight's food porn I have some totally scrummy mulled spiced Cornish cyder, mince pies and a sausage sandwich fresh from the oven grin As you can tell, the diet hasn't started yet!

How is everyone today?

funchum8am Thu 13-Dec-12 00:15:26

Ooh I could murder a sausage sandwich! First feed here, she has stopped going through to 3am sad. I hope she goes back to sleep after this feed rather than doing the reflux transfer hokey cokey this early...

heff glad you got work visit sorted. it is always great to tick annoying chores off the to do list!
We are off to my parents for Xmas this year and I can't wait, I miss mine too. Apparently being a grandad twice over is making my dad all mellow and philosophical and he keeps coming out with all these deep statements about love and family, bless him! grin

funchum8am Thu 13-Dec-12 00:16:32

hope you have managed to get baby marbles to sleep now marbles!

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Thu 13-Dec-12 01:34:17

Mm... Mulled cyder... How perfect with a sausage sammie! We had sausage pie here courtesy of DH, would be great with that too smile
Just gone 4 hours, not bad after a rocky start due to visitors. BG was not best pleased to find so many people in his space when he was so tired, so I brought him up to bed, cue total meltdown. He had been so good all day, especially during lunch in pizza express when he slept gently in hs car set for almost the whole time. I must admit that I took the opportunity tonight of grabbing some sleep for myself as he finally settled as long as I was here! (they were DH's work mates so I wasn't missed!)
Hoping for another four hours...

MrsNPattz Thu 13-Dec-12 01:37:32

First feed here after he went down at half 9 - hoping it's a quick one but after today's jabs who knows, although he seems ok.

marbles hope you are now sleeping soundly for a good long stretch! I still call you marbles automatically even though you are now baubles grin

We are having Christmas here this year, my first one since moving 4 years ago so it's only fair but I'm sad about it! However we are going to my mum and dads on the 27th for 9 days so smile do you guys have brothers and sisters? I have one brother who is 21, there are 6 years between us.

funchum8am Thu 13-Dec-12 01:43:13

Gah three transfer fails in an hour...definitely a record! DH has been sent to the sofa so I can get her in with me and feed lying down. I am one cross mummy!

MrsNPattz Thu 13-Dec-12 01:46:32

susie little man is wearing one of his wadded sleep suits for the first time tonight, they are brilliant smile

Susieloo Thu 13-Dec-12 02:36:10

Yay mrsn, so pleased you are getting some use out of them.

I am on second feed of the night since bed at six so hoping for a lovely stretch through until morning!!

Funnily enough I spoke to my one brother tonight, his marriage is going through a rough patch and he was in a hotel room on his own talking about how much he wants to move home (he lives 5 hours away now). He was getting quite tearful so it was a bit horrible. The other brother goes back to Afghanistan tomorrowhmm they are both older than me.

Totally loving the sausage and cider combo, I have my shopping being delivered tomorrow so good excuse to stay at home in the warm and maybe make some stuff to freeze.

My kit day and Xmas lunch was really lovely although I did not think through my boobs and by 3pm the one had swelled up into a comedy boob and was agony, babyloo fed for an hour when I saw him though thank goodness.

small how are you feeling?

Attempting transfer........

Smallgreenone Thu 13-Dec-12 02:37:57

1st feed since 6!! He must have been so tired unfortunately though means we'll probably be up twice more as he always goes a bit weird with a 2 o clock feed confused
Sausage sandwich and mulled cyder sound scrummy.
I've been investigating swings after seeing a lovely sleeping baby in one but they are pricey so didnt want to buy incase it didn't work on baby small. If you ladies say they work though I trust you.
DH is upstairs again tonight so I can have baby small in bed if needed. The room he's in is above the nursery- I can hear him snoring through the ceiling shock!!!
No food porn here. Trying desperately to shift some weight after my profiterole feast! I am determined to be my pre preg weight by Xmas and have the last couple of stubborn lbs to go, not helped that because I think oh well I'm doing so well I'll just eat this or il make this piece of cake my extra breast feeding calories!!!

Smallgreenone Thu 13-Dec-12 02:44:33

Cross post susie I am MUCH better thank you. Still have soreness but baby small is working on it!
Its a shame about your brother. Must be hard hearing him upset and not being near to offer comfort. I have two brothers who I'm very close to and who I adore and who drive me nuts equally! My older brother was nearly killed in a cycling accident last year and it was a real wake up call so now I'm very soppy about them both!! And baby small will never ride a bike to school! susieloo you're brother is incredibly brave being in Afghanistan, presume he is forces? Wishing him well.

JRsandCoffee Thu 13-Dec-12 03:46:07

Hello, can I join you? I'm horrified and terrified that I've just galled asleep while feeding my 4 week-old DD. She woke up at 2, started feeding her and next thing I know it is 3 and we're still in exactly the same position.....but back in Dyson mode....horrified, horrified, horrified, feel like the worst and most unworthy mother on the planet. How the hell do I keep myself properly awake????

Ameybee Thu 13-Dec-12 03:48:37

First feed since 11 here - miracle! We had a lovely 3 hours awake before bed - nice for DH to have some time with him! We found something DS loves - DD's tigger! He was chatting away to it! Then when I walked it towards him he proper giggled! It was the cutest thing ever!!

Hmm cyder sounds lush!!

mrsn hope you are not having any jab repercussions! We seem fine touch wood! I have 2 older brothers - I'm 29, they are 31 and 34! We had a ball growing up together although things have changed a bit as we've got older and all had kids! My parents have 5 grandchildren now!! Being 1 of 3 has always made me want 3, although having 2 I wonder how on earth my mum coped (and I often ask her!).

We've decided DD has been such a good girl whilst we've had this difficult week with DS and feeding etc, we want to do something really special with her on Sunday, just trying to think, if I ask her I know she'll say 'do a jigsaw!' Suggestions welcome! She's scared of santa unfortunately so that's a no go!

Glad you feel a bit better 'small'. Sleepy dust to all x attempting transfer confused

Ameybee Thu 13-Dec-12 03:51:21

Ps that's so sweet of your dad 'heff*

small I sorted out my huge pile of pre pregnancy clothes today - I found 3 items that fit snugly one denim skirt and 2 pairs of leggings. It was depressing and DH can't understand why there are still 3 space bags full of clothes!! X

MissingMyBaubles Thu 13-Dec-12 03:52:09

Well, we've been asleep since my earlier moaning - yaygrin That's 5 hours and the longest stretch in weeks! Long may it continue, and hopefully we'll get to morning now, although I am just listening to a little bit of chuntering over the monitor. Hope it's not a transfer fail....

I have one younger brother, who, like Small, I adore and drives me nuts in equal measuregrin Glad your feeling better, Smallsmile

It's funny, I take recommendations from here too. Susie's walk in sleepers were the last thing I got. They're great but Missmarbles is in an ordinary sleeping bag tonight since both sleepers are in the wash. One was puked on last night and the other was weed in the night beforehmm

Sausage sarnie and mulled cider, you say? Mmmmmmm. DH made sausage risotto for tea tonight, so good <said in Gloria from film Madagascar stylee> Think I'm going to add mince pies to my delivery this week. I usually do my own baking and stuff but can't be bothered this year. Have done my cake for after Christmas, as we will be away for Christmas. My diet is waiting til Missmarbles is 6 months and weaning is well established. I dont have that much to lose, but I feel very fat sometimes, but so hungry most of the timehmm

Ok, chuntering stopped. Going to kip hopefully til morning

Twobuttonsaway Thu 13-Dec-12 04:12:57

Welcome JR and don't worry I am sure you are not the first to nod off (as I have done it too) and won't be the last!! Co-sleeping is an option, my HV says you mummy instincts mean you won't roll on or drop baby apparently!

Am very excited tonight as baby buttons conked out at about 9pm and slept until 4am! Wow a massive record for him! smile

McBaby Thu 13-Dec-12 04:38:54

Can I join not quite the same but have to express every 3 hours to help clear mastitis! Gutted as she has started sleeping after 3 weeks of waking every 3 hours.

Currently sat in spare room with a hot wet nappy on my breast!

MrsNPattz Thu 13-Dec-12 04:45:20

Second feed here, not had 2 wake ups for a long time! Zzzzzzz just in time for my works Christmas lunch tomorrow lol

Lots of brothers here then! susie really sorry your brother is having a hard time sad I would have loved older brothers so am really glad we got a boy first, but what are the chances of me having a girl next time (if there is a next time!!) haha

Also lots of sausages tonight grin I had cereal for tea after my big lunch! Going to be another big lunch today too although I was so sleep deprived when I got the menu that I can't remember what I ordered!

Glad you are feeling better small

amey there don't seem to be any repercussions other than more night wakings!

MissingMyBaubles Thu 13-Dec-12 04:47:57

An hour?? Seriously?? Come on!!

MrsNPattz Thu 13-Dec-12 05:12:49

I have had an update for this app but it's still rubbish and now the stars don't work to make things bold - is yours the same susie?

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Thu 13-Dec-12 05:52:32

Second feed of night here. Back to pre-illness routines?? she says hopefully and probably fatefully wrongly
Welcome jr and mcBaby jrdont beat yourself up that you fell asleep, it happens more than you would think, and babies are ok!this threads great for keeping awake, maybe also feed lying down? mcBaby ouch on the mastitis, hope it clears up soon.
I am going to buck the trend here, as I have two older sisters! They are both in our home country. I am close to one, and the other prefers communication on her terms - and as she is not best pleased by the arrival of Kid, I have not heard from her since July. The other, however, is a lovely auntie!

Ameybee Thu 13-Dec-12 05:54:29

mcbaby sorry to hear of the mastitis! How old Is LO?

j I have fallen asleep several times and always wake up in a tizz! So do not worry! If you are worried you could always feed sat upright. Or post on here to stay awake! I have to use my phone otherwise I would def nod off!

Susieloo Thu 13-Dec-12 06:49:26

Yesmrsn the stars are not working on the new app, when you click on the little i symbol which normally tells you how to bold etc there is nothing there.

Morning poonami is signalling our morning wake up at 05.40-feel knackered!!

Welcome JR and mcbabysmile

Glad the walk in sleepers are a success, babyloo is back in blankets because he is too chunky for me to get a babygro underneath and its too cold without one, hoping to put him back in them when he gets more streamlined!!

Do you think they will ever sleep through marbles?

Have a good day everyonesmile

McBaby Thu 13-Dec-12 07:16:37

My LO is four months today. So we have just got through the 16 week growth spurt of hourly wakeniings and a few weeks of three hourly and have had three nights this week with 6/8 hours bue I have been up every 3. Mastitis is exhausting enough without this.

Hoping all your Los woke less in the night.

Smallgreenone Thu 13-Dec-12 07:44:25

Hello jr and mcbaby
mcbaby I have mastitis too so feel your pain. I don't have to wake baby small though as unfortunately he wakes regularly himself!! He is 16 weeks on Sunday so guess we have hourly wakings coming up but hopefully maybe then some longer stretches? Please!!!
We have a Xmas party to go to today. Woo hoo! Baby smalls first Xmas outing!

MrsNPattz Thu 13-Dec-12 10:14:23

Welcome jr and mcbaby

It's annoying isn't it susie

Getting ready to leave little man in 15 mins for my work Christmas lunch sad I am a brave, strong, grown up women, I am a brave, strong, grown up

MissingMyBaubles Thu 13-Dec-12 11:30:54

We were up again another hour after I posted, so into our bed she came and lo and behold, slept for 3 hours confused

I do wonder, Susie, if she will ever sleep through. I thought we were getting into a nice little sensible routine and we have gone back to newborn status and I don't know what to do to reverse the regression (is that a double negative? Can you reverse a regression???).

Enjoy your Christmas lunch, MrsN. I still don't like the idea of leaving Missmarbles for any length of time, and she's my secondblush I think you're supposed to be tougher on the second, aren't you?

Hi to JR and McBaby smile

Missmarbles has just woken from normal morning nap, so that's my cue to get going.


MrsNPattz Thu 13-Dec-12 17:31:14


Well I survived! A shed a few tears when I drove away, but had a nice time and little man was ok except he wouldn't take a bottle so was starving when I got in! Not sure why as he had taken one before, I'm really not wanting to be expressing all the time so he gets used to it but maybe I will have to.

marbles I would be the same with a second! Do you feel ok leaving DD1?

Ameybee Thu 13-Dec-12 17:38:01

Well done mrsn! We are having the same bottle battle after he look it so easily last Friday! We managed to pipette an oz into him last night! Bf counsellor told us just to keep trying with an oz or so every evening but he's not keen at all - which terrifies me because if the HV tells me next wed after he's weighed that he needs formula how the hell will I get him to have one bottle per day?!?

We've just had a screaming fit over nothing really confused & he's now conked out in my arms. Tears and everything tho!

He had his first trip to meadowhall today grin he liked it but only if he was viewing from my arms not the pram! Good job I met MIL so she could help!

Really hoping for a good night today - for me and everyone else! X

Smallgreenone Thu 13-Dec-12 18:33:40

Evening all. Glad your lunch went well mrsn
Baby small enjoyed himself at his Christmas party drank a lot and then poonami'd and fell asleep so not too dissimilar or how his dad can sometimes behave at parties grin!! Without the poonami obviously!
Have decided that once this episode of mastitis clears up we're going onto bottles. Baby small will happily take a bottle and I'll try and still do bedtime feeds if my supply lets me. Just can't cope with another mastitis attack and by the time he's used up my freezer stash he'll be 4 months so not too bad. I've been ummming and ahhing over doing it for a while so finally have decided. Do feel a bit guilty about it so definitely want to try and keep the night feeds (although would prefer to be asleep!) if he needs them as he gets so much comfort from boobs and I love our special bond that its given us. DH is thrilled as he's been rather jealous of baby small I think and can now get more involved with feeding.

Twobuttonsaway Thu 13-Dec-12 19:05:26

small four months is fantastic, you shouldn't feel guilty at all, congrats on fab job smile

Ameybee Thu 13-Dec-12 19:10:26

small we are having the same debate in our house (minus the mastitis - so you've done amazing!)! I feel really guilty about it but I feel like we are not getting into any kind of routine at all sad I want to think it will get better but at the mo is still so mixed. I also feel like his poor weight gain is a bit of a sign that its not working out x

McBaby Thu 13-Dec-12 19:20:08

Small amazed you have made it to a party with mastitis! Seriously struggling I haven't left the house for 3 days!

I have been trying to give my LO a bottle for 10 weeks and she will only take an oz or two here and there! After this mastitis and 3 tongue tie revisions I'm done with feeding as soon as I can be......

MrsNPattz Thu 13-Dec-12 19:47:05

small yes you have done a great job! Do you have the NCT leaflet 'reasons to be proud'? It gives you the benefits of feeding to certain time scales. Really hope you are starting to feel better and that things go smoothly transferring to bottle smile

MissingMyBaubles Thu 13-Dec-12 19:49:30

MrsN - I hated leaving DD1 as a baby. I went back to work on nights after having her so that if she woke it was only one feed she missed and invariably she did wake and refused a bottle and DH had to just comfort her til she went back to sleep. I hate still leaving her at school. I don't mind her doing her own thing for a day with a friend or whatever. I don't like leaving her with a babysitter very much but am always glad of date night with DH. I don't mind leaving her with my parents, and she has just started having the odd week there at half term or whatever, now that we live so far away from them, but I miss her like crazy. I'm trying to get a night rotation again when I go back this time too. At least Missmarbles will be nearly 9 months and will hopefully be sleeping through, unlike DD1 who was only just 7 months actual and corrected to 4 1/2 sad

Missmarbles in bed for over an hour already, hopefully we are getting back to normal. Just going to put DD1 to bed now. Catch you all later smile

Susieloo Thu 13-Dec-12 19:59:55

Glad your day went ok mrsn, I hate leaving babyloo although I would happily give him away tonightgrin we had usual bath and bed early due to lack of any significant napping so asleep at six and then awake after 40 mins and we have had transfer fail x ten million and all he wants to do is feed, I am still feeding him an hour and twenty minutes after he woke up. I really need some sleep tonight and would hope that this mammoth feed means a good night but I'm not hopeful. Good luck everyonesmile

Ameybee Thu 13-Dec-12 22:02:02

Babybee has been feeding like mad since 6pm and feeding properly for once so I'm assuming we've hit the 12 week growth spurt.

Had some bad news tonight, my eldest brother just found out he has skin cancer. He has to go for a second operation & skin graft on his foot to see if it has spread. We lost our cousin (DD's godmother - we were very close) last April to malignant melanoma and we were all there when she was very poorly & passed away so its still very raw and painful & hard not to let your mind runaway thinking the worst when its happened to someone in your family. I feel really bad because he called me & for the first 15 mins I was rambling on about breastfeeding and jabs etc before he got a word in edge ways to tell me sad x

Smallgreenone Thu 13-Dec-12 22:26:17

Oh amey that really is bad news. I hope it isn't malignant melanoma. Must be incredibly worrying for you especially with recent events. Does put breastfeeding woes into perspective. sad
I haven't got that leaflet mrsn but I reckon he's had plenty of the good stuff and happy mummy will mean happy baby in the long run. Although I think he'll miss his boobs initially!
DH is settling him now. How is it last night he slept 6 til 2 and tonight can only manage 7 until now confused

funchum8am Thu 13-Dec-12 22:45:29

small babyfunch is only 10 weeks and I am thinking of doing kind of a mirror image of what you are planning, ie introducing a bedtime bottle of formula but bfing all other feeds. it would mean I could express when she has the formula and so build a stash for when I go back to work, or go to bed early (shame supply would probably dry up if I just did the early bedtime every night!) Four months of ebf is fantastic, hats off to you! I hope the mastitis is improving and also yours jr

Welcome to the new ladies!

Eventually did get some sleep last night but found it very hard not to end up in tears, I so needed some sleep. I was having thoughts about just handing babyfunch over to DH and leaving but hopefully that was just a one off low. Feeding lying down in bed turned out to let me get a sensible amount of sleep, thank god.

Babyfunch has been really grizzly for 3 days, is there a 9 or 10 week growth spurt? she doesn't appear to be ill or anything. It is a bit wearing though sad

Good luck for lovely long sleeps everyone!smile

funchum8am Thu 13-Dec-12 22:46:47

amey so sorry to hear about your brother sad. I have everything crossed. I have a little bro (6 foot 2 and 32 years old type little!).

amey sorry about your brother. I hope you are all ok and sticking together.
mrsn glad your day away went well grin
Sorry to hear of mastitis woe and I think I'd probably stop if I kept getting it. Four months is amazing.
Last few nights have been great with LO sleeping for 6 hours. Tonight is going to be different though as we've already had one transfer fail and looking like number two has also failed hmm. Doesn't help that I've got a cold and just want to sleeeep. Please, baby, go to sleep. She looks exhausted but refuses to let herself go! Gah!

MissingMyBaubles Thu 13-Dec-12 23:46:24

Oh Amey, sad prayers for you and your family at the moment.

Well done on bf for four months, Small. I think we should all be proud of our perseverancesmile

Missmarbles has bed Miss Monkey tonight. Woke at 9.50 for a feed then led me a merry dance til 11.15 hmm Sleeping now but hopefully will stay do for a good 5 hours a la last night. DH on the other hand is keeping me awake with his snoring. Feel a bit sorry for him though as he really isn't very well.

MissingMyBaubles Thu 13-Dec-12 23:47:36

Missmarbles has been Miss Monkey! Blinking phone!

JRsandCoffee Fri 14-Dec-12 00:16:02

Evening, back again, this time with added sore throat! Thank you for being so kind about my falling asleep, still am appalled at myself!

Amey fingers crossed for your brother, what a terrible thing to have to cope with, sending positive thoughts x

Right, we fed at 8.30 or so until about 9.30, now feeding again. In two minds whether to set alarm for 3.30 or just respond when she wakes. Suspect will do the alarm, she is still very tiny, four weeks old but five weeks premature. She is now over 6 1/2 lbs and a total milk monster but wouldn't want to push my luck. Anyone else feeding or got experience of feeding one similar?

Right, she's shifted so need both hands to amend latch....oweeeeee

MrsNPattz Fri 14-Dec-12 00:52:38

First feed here, too early baby, too early blush

amey so sorry to hear about your brother. Thinking of you and your family, I hope you can all stay strong.

marbles I was talking to my friend from work at lunch and she says she still misses her son and he's 18, so I guess it never goes away!

susie little man has the bear sleep suit on tonight and hubby says he looks inflatable cause its a bit big hehe grin

funchum8am Fri 14-Dec-12 02:13:49

second feed here. she cannot be hungry this often! Damn reflux. DH is changing her bless him. If she doesn't sleep for a bit now he has offered to take her out in the car and I am that desperate I am thinking of saying yes!

Sorry to hear of other transfer is so hard in the wee small hours sad

JRsandCoffee Fri 14-Dec-12 03:15:27

Oh dear fun that sounds very low on fun factor to me, hope she settles without needing to take to the road. Well my dream of a nice 3 hour sleep has in reality been 2.5 and she is hungry poor wee thing, and I suspect cold not helping. Picked her up in her swaddle and she's hoovering away, usually likes to wave arms about!!

MissingMyBaubles Fri 14-Dec-12 03:34:06

Haha 5 hours! What was I thinking?? Just shy of 3! She is a snot monster so struggling when lying down flat initially, but we've already had one transfer fail and I need some sleeeeeep <desperate emoticon>

MrsNPattz Fri 14-Dec-12 04:04:01

Second feed here, I'm wondering if its a growth spurt is causing more night wakings, I hope so.

It sounds wild outside, we don't have anything planned tomorrow unless my click and collect at Asda arrives. It's an outfit for SILs wedding in Feb - dreading trying it on cause I feel so fat at the moment but can't stop eating!!

Hope there have been some successful transfers!

JRsandCoffee Fri 14-Dec-12 04:21:52

Transfer success here although we're a bit cross re being swaddled and tucked in against the cold..... Just waiting for the smuggling and grunting to settle.....

Returned to bed after nappy change 1 to find Jack Russell keeping my side warm, under the duvet, the optimist! evicted him (he's so was almost tempting to pretend I hadn't noticed my furry foot warmer)... returned after nappy 2 (poonami) and he's worked his way between the duvet and the extra fleece blanket on the top, haven't heart to evict him and he's lovely and warm against my back...

Susieloo Fri 14-Dec-12 04:46:10

2nd feed of the night here so we are doing roughly three hours again, waking up and not feeling like I've been asleep which is horrid.

Sorry to hear about your brother amey, how worrying for you.

I had am email from the boots parenting club that made some reference to how I must be feeling less like a zombie now my baby was 5 months because I was getting more sleep hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Attempting transfer........

Ameybee Fri 14-Dec-12 05:07:46

Thanks for the support everyone. Hopefully it won't be too long before the second op, he is fortunate that work have provided him with private healthcare which makes things slightly easier for him in terms of waiting.

This is 3rd feed here mrsn pretty sure we are at growth spurt as normally he just feeds a bit & he's properly going for it, can hear him gluggling away. Maybe next week he will sleep through.... I'm funny aren't I?! X

Ameybee Fri 14-Dec-12 05:07:52

Thanks for the support everyone. Hopefully it won't be too long before the second op, he is fortunate that work have provided him with private healthcare which makes things slightly easier for him in terms of waiting.

This is 3rd feed here mrsn pretty sure we are at growth spurt as normally he just feeds a bit & he's properly going for it, can hear him gluggling away. Maybe next week he will sleep through.... I'm funny aren't I?! X

StuntNun Fri 14-Dec-12 05:45:25

I'm just checking in. I have been reading all your posts but am too tired to formulate a coherent message.

MissingMyBaubles Fri 14-Dec-12 06:13:46

I got that email too, Susie! I'm on third feed, although I did Missmarbles a disservice last post - she woke me just before 3 rather than just after 2 which meant just over 3 1/2 hours not just shy of 3. Since getting back to bed at 3.45ish, DD1 came in with earache, the fan heater in Missmarbles room kicked in and didn't seem to be going off so I got up to sort that only for it to go off as I got to it. I got back into bed and Missmarbles cried, so I got up to feed her, but she was asleep and then she woke me for real at 5.50ish but in the last 2 hours I've had precisely no valuable sleepsad

I think Missmarbles has yet another cold, and if DD1's earache is still present when she wakes up, it will likely be yet another day off school for hersad On the plus side, if that's the case, we will keep the doors locked and stay all snuggly for the daysmile

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Fri 14-Dec-12 06:26:49

amey so sorry to hear about your brother, really tough for you all. My thoughts are with you.
small four months is indeed fantastic. We managed just under that. And you know, we may be on bottles, but Kid is still healthy and growing and happy and smiley and doing daft things that make me laugh! And he looks at me the whole time he feeds (which he doesn't do even with DH) so I think the bond remains.
mrsn glad you had a nice time at your lunch!
funch did you gt some sleep in the end? Crossing my fingers here!
baubles sad for more illness, but hope you enjoy snuggles if you must!
<Waves to everyone else, apologies for not name checking others, and staggers back to bed in the hope of another hour>

JRsandCoffee Fri 14-Dec-12 07:09:01

Hope everyone managed a bit more sleep, sounds really tough doind three and more feeds and I'm sure I have it to come!! We managed until just a few moments ago, hurrah!! Feel vaguely human and DH on Christmas hold now, shame it's blowing a hoolie outside, very glad tho that I can delegate morning dog walk smile

Hope you all have good days when you get to them!

Smallgreenone Fri 14-Dec-12 08:16:37

Possibly our worst night ever. Am sure I had precisely no sleep until DH got up at 5.30 and took charge so I got.........1hr15 mins and those 15mins mean a lot !! Lord only knows what was up with him- teeth? Too young for teeth? Can't see any or feel any. Anyway he was a monster and not even the old failsafe of co sleeping helped.
goat thanks for your reassurance on bonding and bottles. We start today after this feed! Just need to check Kelly mom sight for advice on how much he needs and defrost the required amount.
Blowing a hoolie (love that expression) here too so will be staying close to home too. jr you're little dog sounds v sweet. We have a beagle who I rarely allow on the bed but when he is allowed, usually when DH is away he sleeps with his head on a pillow on dh's side, I swear he thinks he is a person!

StuntNun Fri 14-Dec-12 09:10:09

Sorry to hear you had a tough night Small, any chance of a catch up nap during the day?

MrsNPattz Fri 14-Dec-12 10:05:41

Well we got another 4 hours so can't really complain but I will haha my right boobie was full and sore again so hoping it just needed draining blush

Sorry for your horrible night small sad

jr lol at your little doggie!

amey it seems our little ones are on par!

Ameybee Fri 14-Dec-12 10:26:38

Well we are housebound. Just attempted taking DD to nursery (left DS with DH thank god) and slid all way down drive with DD in my arms wailing her head off, she was terrified! It was like a proper Ice rink! Scary! I'm meant to be driving to my mums in Nottingham today but will have to see what the weather is like.

Can't say I slept amazingly well between feeds for thinking about my brother. My mum is really upset so hoping the kids help take her mind off stuff.

Let us know how you get on with the bottles small.

DS has the cutest Xmas outfit on, stripy red leggings from next & a robin Xmas top and socks! So cute! X

MrsNPattz Fri 14-Dec-12 12:28:17

Aw amey I really feel for you all - sending lots of positive thoughts!
I can't decide when to put Christmas outfits on but if you have then maybe I can start too grin

Haven't heard from heff for a while, hope you are ok!

funchum8am Fri 14-Dec-12 14:17:23

We coslept instead of taking her out in the car and again it worked well. Looks like the way forward but I wish DH would get the sofa bed out instead of sleeping on the sofa, he would get more sleep for work. I made it to a knitting group at 10am and got really good help with a baby cardi I started in 2011 which was for my niece. Now it may be finished in time for any younger sibling babyfunch may end up having! She was all cute and smily so is forgiven for the nighttime waking for now smile

Sorry to hear of your bad night small, I totally sympathise.

heff are you out there? I am hoping to get to the sling meet on Monday so maybe see you there?

MrsNPattz Fri 14-Dec-12 18:40:41

On my own tonight, hubby is off to his work Christmas party. I decided not to go as a) I can't drink and b) I can't wear eye make up and I feel as though I need both of these things for nights like that - Dutch courage and war paint haha so instead it's just me and little dude and a box of M&S salted caramel profiteroles - really yummy by the way! I really must go back to weight watchers after Christmas, a body control suit I ordered for SILs wedding in Feb came today and the medium won't even go over my thighs!! How are you getting on with it amey? Although you probably aren't thinking about that right now.

Please tell me if I'm being too forward but does anyone fancy linking up on Facebook?

MrsNPattz Fri 14-Dec-12 18:41:08

And how are you feeling small?

HeffalumpsAndWoozles Fri 14-Dec-12 19:42:35

Evening all, here I am <waves> I've been trying to keep up but I wrote a massive post yesterday only for it to get chewed up by the wifi goblins and by the time I noticed both DDs were demanding attention (how dare they, don't they know MNing is serious business... wink )

Have had a busy couple of days, yesterday was my birthday, I have reached the grand old age of 27 grin and am now coming to you via the medium of my brand new shiny iPad for which DH has earnt many brownie points! My mum babysat for an hour last night so DH & I could pop out for a drink which was lovely although I was falling asleep in my wine a bit.

Yesterday we went to a Christmas food market at Waddesdon Manor, I thought of you all as the food & drink really was pornographic! We had duck burgers with plum sauce, salmon & broccoli pie, handmade chilli chocolate, baklava, all manor of homemade Christmas puddings, award winning champagne, sausages in all shapes & sizes and of course mulled wine <goes pop>.

We've been to Wisley Gardens today in our waterproofs and spent about 4 hours jumping in puddles, I'm exhausted but somehow DD1 is still full of beans and babylump, who was an angel & slept all day, is now wide awake ready for the night shift!

amey I'm so sorry to read about your brother, what devastating news my thoughts are with you and your family and I hope he is able to get treatment very soon.

funch I've got a ring sling I'm meant to be returning on Monday but I'm considering just messaging them and paying or another month as I've not got the hang of it yet. Can't make my mind up!

mrsn I'll happily link up on Facebook (but you have to promise not to laugh at my dodgy photos!) pm me how to find you smile

Smallgreenone Fri 14-Dec-12 19:53:13

Happy birthday heff market sounds lush. Gosh haven't used the word lush in a while! I'm hoping for an iPad for Christmas have mentioned it many times to DH but he does sometimes miss my cues!
Baby small is currently sleeping and I'm wondering whether to start Xmas wrapping or go to bed.............
I'm on my own tonight too mrsn. DH is at his works do too and he is staying over and no doubt getting quite drunk so am probably better off on my own! I miss him though especially if baby small is going to play games like he did last night.
I'm happy to be on Facebook too.
amey hope you're ok, when will you get the results back? Am keeping fingers and toes crossed for good news for you.

Smallgreenone Fri 14-Dec-12 19:54:24

Oh and we're in Christmas outfits here! Baby small was a snowman yesterday and an elf today!!

MrsNPattz Fri 14-Dec-12 20:17:10

<waves> back to heff happy birthday for yesterday! Sounds like you have had an amazing time and all that food sounds gorgeous!! You are the same age as me, I was 27 in September! Ok I will PM you both but you can't laugh at mine either haha just thought it would be nice to put a face to the name be nosy grin

Ameybee Fri 14-Dec-12 20:47:32

Evening all! We are at my mums and babybee is asleep - on boob! He has fed so much today - my boobs have felt like rocks and are rather pammy like!
small he's seeing plastics on Thursday, so op will be after that then I guess a week or so, its a shame its over Xmas. I know loads about skin cancer after my cousin, but wish I didn't. Just keep hoping its not spread.

mrsn I've lost about 4lbs in 3 weeks on ww, its ok but I do find tracking a bit tedious, even on iPhone, the extra points for bf are handy when you just want fish fingers and chips for tea, cos we don't have loads of time to make wonderful healthy meals. Its designed to only lose 1lb per week tho - bit long for me!

I'm happy to Facebook too! Will pm you! X

Susieloo Fri 14-Dec-12 21:07:29

Evening all, too tired to post but yes yes to fb, how do we do it? Night nightsmile

MrsNPattz Fri 14-Dec-12 21:32:44

Susie I have added amey, if we start adding each other we all add each other eventually lol will PM you

MrsNPattz Fri 14-Dec-12 23:02:56

Transfer fail here, it's absolutely wild outside and I think that's what woke him! The windows in the nursery aren't very good, they make a funny noise when it's windy so will have to get that sorted. He has fallen asleep on me again so hoping I won't have another transfer fail!

Tooodlepip Fri 14-Dec-12 23:37:10

Hi everyone

I was here in sep gots loads of support during a tough time no one probably remembers me grin anyway from this thread I ordered an Euan the dream sheep from amazon it was a waste of my £26 anyway it was used once literally does anyone want it?? I threw away the box so planning on just stuffing him in an envelope wink but he is brand new. Anyway the offers there

Hope everyone getting more sleep now, my wee one had reflux which was why he was crying so much

funchum8am Fri 14-Dec-12 23:57:58

Hi all, yes to Facebook, do I pm you mrsn?

First feed over, it is getting earlier each night not later!sad

Glad you going out the problem toodlepip have you managed to solve the reflux and if so, how??

I went to m&s but couldn't find the profiteroles sad. but found salted caramel cheesecakes instead so they are in the fridge grin

The lady next door popped by today to point out I had left my keys in the door shock. and also to say she was having signs of going into labour (she is 2 days overdue). All v exciting, babyfunch will soon have a friend to play with!

Also the hospital have written back to acknowledge my complaint about my induction being badly handled and were very apologetic. They offered a meeting in Jan so I can discuss it with them...should be 'interesting'! --hope the manager I see has earplugs in case I get cross--grin

Susieloo Fri 14-Dec-12 23:58:02

Hi toodle, nice to hear from you, hope your lo is sleeping better for you. Love the idea of ewan in an envelope!! I've got a projector thing that I use but I'm sure someone will snap him upsmile

This is second feed of the night really after I woke him up trying to see if he was cold!!

Mrsn I've sent you a message!

Hope everyone fast asleep, attempting transfer.......

MissingMyBaubles Sat 15-Dec-12 00:05:54

Second feed already hmm

MissingMyBaubles Sat 15-Dec-12 00:10:58

Oops! Posted slightly too soon. Eyes stinging already so sorry for not name checking this time.

Ameybee Sat 15-Dec-12 00:11:33

First feed here - why do they wait till you're in a proper deep sleep to wake up?!? I hope he sleeps ok in the travel cot! He laughed at his grandads singing tonight which was hilarious! Bless him, he cried twice when I took him off my dad!

Really hope he goes down soon for a few hours, I never realise quite how tired I am till I nod off for half an hour!

Ameybee Sat 15-Dec-12 00:13:58

toodle I was going to buy a ewan for Xmas for baby bee so I would happily adopt him if he's looking for a new home still? Xx

Tooodlepip Sat 15-Dec-12 00:26:21

Yes of course Amy I just wish I had kept the box now ok pm me your adress and I shall post him Monday smile

Tooodlepip Sat 15-Dec-12 00:31:14

Funchum he has been crying quite a bit since he was born they gave him ranitidine I think it's helping he is much more smiley these days and the dreaded bed time settling seems much shorter [ grin] I could always hear fizzing in his throat and he would bring up a lot of sick and then water also. It's been tough I'm on my own dh works abroad but I can see things picking up now I can't believe he is 14 weeks this week.

Thanks for asking I'm off to bed now hope everyone else is smile

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Sat 15-Dec-12 01:01:26

Greetings all! Yes to fb, though I don't actually think there is a picture of me on it, only Kid! (He definitely did not get his photogenic-ness from me!)
Happy birthday, heff! Sounds like you had a lovely day. The Christmas market sounds AMAZING. Mmmmmm...
We tried to go out today, but the trains wouldn't let us angry spent ages on a cold and windy platform waiting for a suspended train, trying to shield Kid from being elbowed in the face by people stampeding for said nonexistent train hmm. Finally managed to get back home without having got where we were going. I think we are both slightly getting cabin fever after two weeks of not going anywhere much thanks to Kid's horrible cold. We are going to Kent for the day tomorrow and I am ridiculously excited. Also probably plain ridiculous, for the mountain of stuff I am taking for Kid just for the day!

Susieloo Sat 15-Dec-12 02:53:35

Third feed of the night, v tired so waving at everyone, have booked my parents to have babyloo next Friday day time so I can stay in bed and catch up on some sleep, too tired to post eyes won't stay open, really really want him to start sleeping longer!!

funchum8am Sat 15-Dec-12 02:57:42

Thanks for the info toodlepip we think babyfunch has reflux and it sounds similar to your experience but doc wanted to try a few things before isn't working though sad Really glad your LO is improving!

I am boiling, DH has gone and left the heating on. He is normally really tight about it so I am in a big nightie and am far too hot!

This is the feed where babyfunch refuses to settle so I may well be kicking DH out soon so he can switch the heating off then....I love it when a plan comes together!

goat angry. to elbowy train crowd people, I know what you mean!

Smallgreenone Sat 15-Dec-12 03:33:37

I've added you on FB mrsn.
First feed since 10 for baby small which is brilliant. I heard him shout at 1 but ignored him and he went back to sleep until now. Yay! I've bought him in bed now anyway because I'm lazy and DH isn't here anyway so I may as well have some company on enormous bed.
Hope you're all getting some sleep.

Ameybee Sat 15-Dec-12 04:05:22

Stingy eye club &#128563;! He has gone from 1 until now tho which is pretty good & he's feeding properly at mo (thank god, exploding boobs). DD was screaming an hour ago as she fell off the chair bed! DM sorted her out!
I hope DH has whipped the Hoover round by the time we get back tomorrow.... You could feed a Pygmy tribe off the living room carpet at the moment!
Hoping my next transfer is successful & we get through to 7 at least.... Pretty please?

Ameybee Sat 15-Dec-12 04:06:19

Ooh - that weird number thing was me using emojis on iPhone - they don't work for future reference!!! X

MrsNPattz Sat 15-Dec-12 04:30:18

First feed here, so nearly 5 hours since he eventually went down! I think hubby coming home woke us both angry

Hi toodle nice to 'meet' you grin

funch and goat I will PM you!

Ameybee Sat 15-Dec-12 04:37:58

Epic transfer fail - groan. This may be the night he learns to self settle because its cold & a long way to bend down into travel cot....

JRsandCoffee Sat 15-Dec-12 04:40:16

Trf no 1.under way here....11pm feed was a bit screamy, fed for 40 mins, needed changed, cried, posseted during change, changed clothes, grumbled, refused bed and eventually stupid mother offered the other boob, had that an conked out reasonably quickly (memory of DH doing some shushing....) until 4.05......fingers crossed she finishes and lets us have another 3 + hrs....

Fingers crossed everyone's nights involve a peaceful stretch until morning! How old? are everyone's babies? X

MrsNPattz Sat 15-Dec-12 04:48:33

JR my little man is 13 weeks old tomorrow! How old is yours?

funchum8am Sat 15-Dec-12 05:07:40

babyfunch is 10

Susieloo Sat 15-Dec-12 05:10:34

We seem to have gone back months tonight with the two hourly waking again.

Mrsn we are now friends on fb but I don't know how to add anyone else, can't see who you are friends with recently on the iPhone app, will go on the desktop site tomorrow.

Jr babyloo is 5 months and a week old I think!!

Really hoping for another couple of hours, not sure I want this to be morning!!

funchum8am Sat 15-Dec-12 05:12:02

doh posted too soon! she is 10 weeks 2 days. DH is about to take her for a drive as reflux has woken her ans she is wide awake. I have been awake since 3 and can't seem to drop off sad

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Sat 15-Dec-12 05:13:46

We. Are. Awake.
Did I mention the word awake? Is there another word that ramps that up a bit?? hmm

Have found you, mrsn or I hope I have or someone will be very bemused!

amey grin at your Pygmy tribe!

funch were you at NP hospital? I know scary numbers of people complaining there. sad

jr Kid is 5 months on Tuesday but was prem so 3 months adjusted tomorrow! Where does the time go?... oh that's right, in sleep deprived nights

Ameybee Sat 15-Dec-12 05:16:28

Babybee is 12 weeks... And still awake!!!! Argh been up since 355 now! He's still tired but chatting away and won't give in! I've given in & given him the full boob as I hope this will result in milk drunkness & sleep! If I'd of been at home I prob would've left him to self settle as he wasn't crying but I was scared his ramblings would wake everyone up! Why does everything seem louder than in your own house?! I swear I heard my dad snoring 2 rooms away earlier! Deciding whether to leave him on bed with me or attempt transfer now. Sleep.... I miss you! X

Ameybee Sat 15-Dec-12 05:21:30

goat we are with you on Awake! I hate being up between 3 & 6am its the worst time and its freezing! susie I've added you through mrsn on fb. I'm easy to find with my random spelled name so anyone else feel free to add me through mrsn x

Smallgreenone Sat 15-Dec-12 06:37:08

I've added you amey couldn't see you susie will try again when I can actually see perhaps!
I think I'm up now but the night really wasn't so bad. I'm too excited to sleep anyway because today is tree day!!! We currently have a tiny tree in a pot in the dining room but today I am off to the shops with baby small for an enormous 7ft fir for the sitting room. I LOVE the Christmas tree! Takes me hours to choose and decorate. I have named the tree already, he will be Fritz the Fir this year!

JRsandCoffee Sat 15-Dec-12 07:22:27

Hi everyone, she woke up again at 7 so not too bad, hoping can snatch another hour after this feed before Sarurday kicks in!!

Amey big fan of milk drunkenness here.....

DD aka "The Puppy" is 4 weeks and two days old but arrived five weeks early do still not due. She had quite bad Jaundice but was just shy of 6lbs at birth and has (touch wood...) had no other problems so far. Finding it hard to judge when to go on her actual age and her adjusted age!!! Goat would be very interested in any words of wisdom!

Right, need to save right boob, she seems to imagine it is some kind of bungee for supported moshing practice....

Susieloo Sat 15-Dec-12 07:48:12

Our day started at about half six so not too bad, bit gutted about the two hourly waking though, I've started weaning and we were just on one meal at lunch time but I've just given him some breakfast so we will go up to two meals from now on in an attempt to help the sleepingsmile

Have good days everyonesmile

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Sat 15-Dec-12 07:58:57

Still awake. AWAKE. Awaaaaaaaaaaake, awakeawakeawakeawake, wakey wakey wakey...
jr congratulations on your little prem! We used to have quite a few on the thread, though some seem to have graduated. With the real/adjusted age, frankly I have decided to throw the book out the window. And stick my fingers in my ears and go lalalala when hvs try and talk about it. Kid is just writing the book himself - in some things he is behind adjusted age, in some ahead of real age, and everything in between. Probably the only thing I really take note of is adjusted age for feeding patterns, which have been pretty spot on. Though of course weaning is to real age... But he is now becoming a little Buddha at 12 lbs!
susie how is LO enjoying the weaning? smile

Ameybee Sat 15-Dec-12 08:31:35

Trying desperately to get another hour after being awake for 2 in night - grr!!! He's not looking keen. I'm feeling pretty jealous that DH is at home having had enormous amounts of sleep!
Think we are off to park or garden centre depending on weather.
My mum was so down yesterday sad she doesn't want any of the family to know until second op results are back but I think in doing that she's excluding a bit of her support network. Will try n chat to her today although DD has been surgically attached to her since we arrived!
Hope everyone has nice days! X

MrsNPattz Sat 15-Dec-12 08:39:37

Up time here, we came straight downstairs so as not to wake a probably very hungover daddy who came in at gone 4! Does anyone else have a hubby who can't say no? No, he says, I won't be going to town and the casino after the party, however as the party didn't last until 4 I'm presuming this is where he was!

We don't have much planned today, just a food shop delivery and then it depends what state he is in! It's really miserable out so might be nice to stay in anyway.

Loving seeing everyone's pictures on FB, glad I asked now smile

Hope everyone managed more sleep!

Susieloo Sat 15-Dec-12 08:48:41

Thinking of you amey, hope the chat with your mum helps.

Goat-like his mum babyloo loves his food so far, not only was he trying to eat the spoon this morning but he was after the bowl as well, he still wants me to feed him as well though so he's a very hungry baby!!

HeffalumpsAndWoozles Sat 15-Dec-12 09:20:45

Morning smile

We had a good night, down at midnight, feed at 4am then down again until half 8. DD1 woke just as I was putting babylump down after 4am feed so she came in with us and has only just woken up too. We're all snuggled up in bed watching cbeebies although DH is fast asleep after going out to play snooker and coming in at 1am envy

mrsn I've got you & amey now on fb, how do I find everyone else? Can you send me friend suggestions maybe?

Ameybee Sat 15-Dec-12 10:03:14

For some reason heff i can't find suggest friends for you. Maybe if I tag us all in a post then you can add them from my wall?

mrsn my DH has no idea about saying no!! And he's always on his 'last pint!' He's very skinny compared to his mates so he can't keep up! Under normal circumstances he can't keep up with me but I'm a fatty grin! Don't know about you but I've found that bf has helped very little with weightloss when I thought it would just fall off?!? I lost a stone in the first week or so (but think that happens naturally & I was horrified at number on scales) but now I've been more or less same for a month or so until ww but then that's not a huge loss. I need to exercise really, might get the Davina DVD's out, I'm sure baby bee would watch me wobbling about the lounge, or I could put him in sling for extra weight training!! X

MrsNPattz Sat 15-Dec-12 10:53:05

amey yea I'm totally the same, I naively thought the weight would fall off no matter what I ate (well that's what I was told!) and it hasn't shifted - except like you, a stone after he was born! I'm 2 stone heavier than when I got married, and although I don't want to get back to that, a stone would do! But my mind is just not in it right now. I loved WW when I was losing weight for my wedding so hopefully I can get that frame of mind back again!

StuntNun Sat 15-Dec-12 11:32:32

J went for his first four hour stretch last night (probably exhausted from all that crying over his sore tummy), it should have been great except I woke up after three hours with sore, full boobs! DH brought him up to change his nappy and found me sitting on the bed, showered, fully dressed and having already had my first cup of tea of the day! Poor DH got very little sleep last night so he's extra grumpy today.

HeffalumpsAndWoozles Sat 15-Dec-12 19:45:22

That's a good idea amey, I found you from mrsn's wall so that should work.

Hooray for baby stunt, hope it was the start of many more good nights!

We've been visiting DHs grandparents and auntie today which was nice, exchanging presents made me feel awful though as I'd got them one smallish pressy each and they gave us the most humongous sack of presents for us, hopefully mostly for the DDs but still made me feel bad for not putting more effort into theirs. I was a bit fed up that yet again I had to sort out DHs family as well as my own and it ended up being a bit of a rush, must be more organised next year and anticipate DH being a lazy sod not getting round to his shopping in time.

Ameybee Sat 15-Dec-12 19:49:38

Well, DD decided she wanted to stay at grandmas! So they are bringing her back Tomo! Me and DH have had Mexican for tea and I'm hopefully about to put DS down for night. Very strange watching strictly without DD - its her favourite!!
Tried talking to my mum in garden centre cafe when it was just me & her but she started crying and then went off to loo sad she said she can't talk to me about it all at the moment. Wish I could help, I just wanted her to think positively until we know any different. But its her son isn't it & we all know how it feels whether they are 3 months or 30 odd! She text me to say DD is taking her mind off things.

mrsn I'm just the same - well I'm actually 2.5stone heavier than wedding day blush my weight yo yo's frequently! But after I had DD I lost 2 stone in 6 months for our wedding by going to the gym 3-5 times per week (they had a crèche that I put DD in for an hour) but that isn't going to happen this time & the incentive of a wedding dress was a big one! I have to do something tho. Everyone told me (even the gp) that the weight would 'fall off' if I continued to bf - err I beg to differ!! Maybe its the snacking... But some days I'm ravenous!! Anyway, transfer time! Good luck tonight everyone! Xx

MrsNPattz Sat 15-Dec-12 20:39:51

amey your poor mum - yes having your own really makes you understand how our own must feel!

I was going to come on and moan about feeling fat, frumpy and ugly but it puts things into perspective what your family are going through!

We haven't done much, just had my friend from work come over - she has lost nearly 6 stone and looks amazing! I was glad of the company.

It's so so sad this shooting in Connecticut isn't it. Doesn't bare thinking about - but it's hard not to.

HeffalumpsAndWoozles Sat 15-Dec-12 21:10:34

Your poor mum amey, it must be so so awful for something like this to happen to one of your children however old they may be. <hugs> to you and your family.

mrsn I feel the same, weight size I've gone from a size 8 wedding dress in 2009 (pre children!) to a 14 in 2012. I used to be so fit, wish I'd appreciated it then as now I'm a jelly bellied lump! Must must must do something about getting back into shape soon. I'm trying to resist snacks but Christmas time really not the best time of year for cutting back is it!

The news has made me cry so much, I can't even start to imagine the horror of it all it is just such a tragedy. The world is a scary place, all we can do is try to bring our children up to be decent adults and hope that if enough others are doing the same that tragedies like this won't keep happening. sad

Ameybee Sat 15-Dec-12 22:43:18

God dont worry about moaning about weight mrsn its one of my hobbies! To be honest tho the problem with me is I just love food and I'm a pig, I love wine too & I hate exercise (aside from body combat at one gym where the instructor was seriously hot!). If I was let loose I'd be like one of those people on programmes who have to be craned out their houses wink! This is the fattest I have been for a while tho so something does need to be done.... Tomorrow! I've just eaten a portion of nachos, two fajita wraps and a melt in the middle choccy pudding blush eek! Best get DS out in the pram for a power walk Tomo!

I have several jobs to get done that all would be much easier without breastfeeding baby in tow - I need an eye test (desperately), a leg wax (even more desperate, I'd be warm in this weather with no trousers on), a temporary filling replacing with a permenant one (not so desperate - hate the injection) and last of all a haircut and colour! So basically I look like a tramp but as my eye sights bad and I don't have glasses I can't see myself too well in the mirror grin bonus!
Wondering whether to leave babybee with daddy + ebm and just hope for the best (one job at a time!)! mrsn did your LO scream when he didn't take the bottle the other day or was he ok? Xx

MissingMyBaubles Sat 15-Dec-12 23:17:16

Have no idea what kind if a night I'm in for. Missmarbles was very unsettled last night due to the snotmonster. Having been up to the third feed at midnight when she didn't settle well at all DH sat with her for a bit and she eventually went to sleep about oneish. He brought her to me about half two because he couldn't stop sneezing (he has man-flu) we then slept ok but DD1 woke up with earache yet again, poor love. So all in all a rubbish night all round. Missmarbles went down at 7.20 tonight, fed again at 8 and then 10, so it isn't boding well so farconfused

The news is awful, Goat. I am so thankful for my girls, I love them so much. My heart goes out to those poor families, and that community.

I really need to start Slimming World again too, Amey and MrsN, but as Goat says Christmas is the wrong timegrin anyway I always said I wasn't going to do anything about it for the first 6 months while I was exclusively bf. I have started weaning (she's 5 months) so after Christmas....

Susie, how is weaning going for you? Missmarbles did really well at first but seems to spit rather a lot out at the minutehmm She's definitely swallowing if though. She still spits up a fair but and to ight it was spinach stainedgrin Also, she is still pooing with breastfed frequency, ie quite rarely. I'm pretty sure she's not constipated, as she has had two dirty nappies (tmi: bm poo with bits in) in the last two weeks since starting solids, and she has had stewed apple too to make sure but we've had nothing for a weekconfused Should I be concerned by this? Other than lack of evidence, I don't have any other reason to be. Any thoughts?

MissingMyBaubles Sat 15-Dec-12 23:20:10

Beg your pardon Heff blush I've written Goat twice, purely on the basis of a long name and not concentrating, and I meant Heff. Sorry blush

Just sticking my head round the door, as marbles/baubles mentioned poo and solids (ooo that sounds yucky!) - DS's frequency also slowed right down, going from 3+ times a day to once every day or couple of days. I think it is still normal to go a few days without a poo, but of course the introduction of solids could be slowing everything down. DS was clearly straining quite a bit in the first week, and I realised I wasn't helping the situation by indulging his love of banana, so watch it with foods like that - apparently apple is the same? Good things to "flush it out", so to speak, are pear or dried prunes or apricots. I've also made a habit of getting him to drink a little water from his sippy cup after he has food.

DS is still having a terrible time with his teeth sad will it ever end? I could really really do with a decent night's sleep - I can't remember when I last had one now. I think we managed a couple of nights with a 4 hour gap a week or two ago, but I'd give anything for a 5 or 6 hour! DH is now on holiday so I think it is about time he did a bit of the night work grin Unfortunately if DS wakes screaming, and dentinox and the dummy won't settle him, I just feed him to get him to stop, even though I doubt he is really hungry - I just don't have anymore methods of settling him sad

<waves at everyone, and crawls back under sleep-deprived rock>

Smallgreenone Sun 16-Dec-12 00:59:15

Hi all, first feed since bed. DH normally does this one but arrived up to the bedroom saying baby small wont feed and is crying. Baby small had just fed fine for me. DH now buggered off to bed with instructions to me of dont be up too late confused!!! Because I deliberately stay up and have no sleep confused
tea DH starts his hols next week and we will definitely be sharing the nights, I can't wait!!! He's not back in until the 7th so I am hoping for a few blissful nights.
Attempting transfer

MrsNPattz Sun 16-Dec-12 00:59:49

First feed here, far too early - only 2 and a half hours after he went down. I hope it's not a 2 hourly night blush

amey I'm a pig too - I feel disgusting sometimes! I think I am going to join WW after Christmas - so still a few weeks to pig out eat a bit too much! I'm not sure re bottle, as it was MIL who offered it but she said he just wasn't interested! We tried him with a bottle in the car yesterday and he took some, but then just cried until he got boobie! Are you still having no joy? Haha my legs are exactly the same!! I was only thinking as I lay getting to sleep that I might try and get a waxing appointment before Christmas but whether there will be appointments left I don't know!

marbles sorry DD is still poorly! Hopefully she will be better for Santa coming grin

MrsNPattz Sun 16-Dec-12 01:01:05

Hi tea, lovely to hear from you!

Susieloo Sun 16-Dec-12 01:08:56

Too tired to read and post

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Sun 16-Dec-12 02:18:57

Zombie-like Goat crawls onto thread, waves feebly, and crawls off again in the vain hope that Kid will actually sleep after a long and knackering day and therefore she can too.
<hollow laugh>

funchum8am Sun 16-Dec-12 03:32:29

just a quick hello from only 2nd feed here smile here's to more good nights for us all!

Ameybee Sun 16-Dec-12 03:48:27

Second feed here! I still feel full and sick now! Ew!
mrsn decided if I can't get an appointment I'm going to give the veet roll on waxing thing a go at home. Need to do it by wed really as I have a follow up appointment for third degree tear and ill be seriously embarsssed anyway without the hairy legs blush!

Susieloo Sun 16-Dec-12 03:51:47

And we are up again so another night of two hourly waking, might need to rethink bedding and try a grobag tomorrow night, not sure that is the issue though, he does seem hungry.

Weaning is going really well marbles, need to find something to put him in because he is too good at rocking his chair so its getting very messy!! he can't really support his head yet so need something with a back to it. Can't wait until he can have 'proper food' rather than just vegetables and fruit and baby cereal.

He is now wide awake talking to the pretty pictures trying to pull his blankets over his head.

We were home most of yesterday so I was watching the news re the American shootings - indescribably awful.

Hope you are ok amey and goat hope you are now fast asleep.

Hi all. Had a good couple of nights so haven't been here. Couldn't last tho so I'm back and desperately trying not to sleep!
Another one feeling crappy about being a stone overweight! --and doing nothing about it--grin I wish I was one of those people who eat what they want and never put on weight. I just have to look at cake and put on 3lbs!!
What do everyone's babies sleep in? My DD is 8 weeks old and just has a blanket. When can they use the gro bag?

God! Baby is asleep and in wide awake. Am going to regret this in the morning

StuntNun Sun 16-Dec-12 05:45:35

Grobag from 8lb8oz Elvis. Hope you got to sleep again.

I have gas a better night despite feeds at 11, 2, 3.30 and 5.30. I'm a bit less tired so I have been able to respond faster and get J fed before he got too noisy. So DH has had a good night as, although he has been woken up, he hasn't had to attend to the baby at all. Hope he's less grumpy tomorrow as a result.

Susieloo Sun 16-Dec-12 06:15:59

Up again so a proper two hour waking night-dp is going Xmas shopping so he might have to take babyloo so I can get some sleep.

We are on blankets again after walk in sleepers but he does tend to play with them and pull them over his head!!

Think we are up for the dayhmm

MissingMyBaubles Sun 16-Dec-12 07:12:57

No idea if we were up at 12.30 or 1.30 or 12.30 through 1.30 until 2. Up again at 550, transfer fail and bringing her in with me hasn't worked either do we are still awake. Annoyed with DH for sleeping feeling like he was all helpful last night for once angry
Ooh get me! I don't mind getting up a zillion times to both DDs if required it just narks me that DH thinks he had the monopoly on tiredness sometimes. And it pisses me off more in the middle of the night. Yes 7 is the middle of the night since its dark and I've been awake since 5!

That us all. Rant over.

JRsandCoffee Sun 16-Dec-12 07:21:20

Morning all, hope sleep found you all....Some rough nights out there by the sound of it. We went out to a dinner party for a 40th last night. DD obligingly slept for most if it but on getting home decides that 2hrs of on off feeding, a bit of sick and a good explore of the volume on her lungs was the way to go....then slept until 4.30 and for another couple of hours to now....

Goat would Iove your opinion (and indeed anyone else with premie experience), we're letting her wake us rather than us waking her at night. Still waking her every three hours during the day but it just seems wrong at night. She's 4 weeks and a good weight and lively etc. Do you think it's too early? Last night she fed/ yelled from 11-01 and Then slept until 4.30, too long between feeds? Fret, fret....

MrsNPattz Sun 16-Dec-12 07:30:09

Well I needn't have worried about 2 hourly feeds - we just got 6 hours! Sorry for all of the bad nights - I hope you can nap today!

We don't have much planned apart from friends coming round. Probably see in laws at some point too but I'm leaving that for hubby to suggest.

amey I have never tried the veet, but I have just remembered I have a smear on Tuesday so I need to do something too or die of embarrassment as my bikini line is the same (sorry for TMI!)!

MrsNPattz Sun 16-Dec-12 07:31:14

elvis my little man sleeps in a vest, a baby grow and a gro bag or wadded sleep suit! He has been in a gro bag since 3 weeks.

Goatbongohohoandjinglejingle Sun 16-Dec-12 07:48:40

WANTED dead or alive!
Last seen approximately December 2011, wearing a slouch hat and sunglasses in an attempt at escaping in disguise. This seems to have been successful. Reward. Wanted by rather a lot of people.

jr we were told by NNU not to let Kid go longer than five hours because of dehydration, and not to do this too frequently - So 1-4:30 is fine. Only a couple of times near the beginning did he go that long anyway, he soon learnt to yell for food! (actually he is still quite a polite baby, he is more likely to chew his hand and look at me hopefully. This is not known to wake me up in the middle of the night hmm )

Ameybee Sun 16-Dec-12 08:17:50

I have paid for my pig out confused belly ache and now a very unhappy belly sad guess the bonus is I might lose some weight but it feels like I have a washing machine for insides confused! DH taken DS downstairs to leave me to die in peace.... Bleugh. Hope its not a bug x

JRsandCoffee Sun 16-Dec-12 09:42:08

Amey hope you feel better soon, that is such a horrid feeling sad fingers crosseed!

Goat poor sleep deprived you! Thank you for the advice, it is so hard to know what to do sometimes!! I'll keep an eye on it and if she goes and longer than four to four and a half start to start I'll start setting the alarm again (she decides to go all over again at 12.30 so counting from there for last night)....

Right, must focus on the milk monster....DH has gone out cycling, am jealous! I too am l

funchum8am Sun 16-Dec-12 09:49:08

Sorry to hear of such bad nights! We did ok til DH came up from sleeping on the sofa. I was in bed with babyfunch fast asleep on me and he kindly offered to let her sleep on him. Moving her woke her and she cried for what felt like aaaagessad She has been to and fro from him to me (for feeding) ever since so I have had some sleep but only short bursts. He is taking her out to a farmer's market now smile. Then we are off to friends for lunch; other friends who are coming too have an even younger baby!

babyfunch sleeps in long sleeved vest and grobag - tucking in blankets and change of temp to cold cot always meant transfer fail before the grobags!

JRsandCoffee Sun 16-Dec-12 09:49:17

Posted too soon.... Am also struggling with hunger and weight, can do my jeans up but would not be a happy experience, living in some forgiving skirts from the land of pre preg body and wondering if DH can put bike on turbo trainer in the garage or if I should wait until the six week point. In the interim I'll continue my obsession with those cranberry and White chocolate crispies, mince pies and any other foodstuff unfortunate enough to cross my path....

Smallgreenone Sun 16-Dec-12 10:19:04

Up three times last night but DH took baby small at 6 so I got some sleep so not feeling too bad. Off for lunch with friends today, can't wait. Gorgeously sunny too which makes a nice change from all the rain. Have a good day all.

StuntNun Sun 16-Dec-12 11:02:47

DH took J downstairs at 7 so I could get a bit more sleep whereupon J puked all over the Moses basket. AIBU to be just a little bit smug and feeling like DH deserved it after he went out for hours and hours yesterday?

MrsNPattz Sun 16-Dec-12 13:48:30

Blurgh, just had another fat moment - tried on a dress I bought for SIL's wedding and it looks horrendous!! Cue tears! Yet I'm still going to have a huge Costco shortbread with my afternoon cuppa............

MrsNPattz Sun 16-Dec-12 13:50:58

Then I just looked at my sleeping baby boy in my arms gave myself a shake - who cares about a spare tyre around my middle when I have a little boy so perfect smile

Smallgreenone Sun 16-Dec-12 18:29:53

Seems like 5 mins ago it was this morning and am now on bedtime feed. Whoosh! Had such a lovely day today but am quite exhausted from it now.
mrsn I have cried lots over clothes that look hideous now it's quite normal. I have actually lost all but 2lbs of my pregnancy weight but my body still isn't quite the same. It may never be I suppose but at least I have my amazing boy to show for it. They're worth it and there's plenty of time to hit the gym.
Anyone else really looking forward to sports personality of the year tonight? I'm recording in case I fall asleep before the end!

Susieloo Sun 16-Dec-12 19:02:45

Love sports personality and am v excited that duchess of Cambridge will be attending, we are recording it because there is no way I will be able to stay awake.

We are on second last feed before bed, babyloo is in his gro bag tonight to stop him getting over excited by his blankets but he still manages to get his gro bag in his mouth to have a good chew!!

I know lots of people mrsn that only lost weight when they stopped bf rather than whilst they were still feeding, I think sometimes your body hangs on to any available fat stores so you can keep making milk-you don't look like you need to lose any weight at all to me from your fb picturessmile

I managed to have two breakfasts this morning, I had a sausage sandwich at half six and then dp got up and made himself a mini full English so I had one too, I was born greedy and hungry and bf just makes it worse!

I had my first meal refusal from babyloo since weaning began, I made him some mashed potato as per Annabel Karmel and he really didn't want it, it was a bit cold though so tomorrow I'm going to add some apple purée and warm it all through.

Really hoping for an easy transfer I have a big glass of wine waiting for me.

Good luck tonight everyonesmile