this is funny...

[skerriesmum]

Sil's baby is formula fed and just turned one year old. Our phone conversation:

She: I'm just not sure about switching to cow's milk, I mean, it's for cows, you know...!
Me: But formula milk is made from cow's milk.
She: (stunned silence, and then...) Oh. I just never thought...

Honestly! She's using that brand that says "inspired by breastmilk" on the tin so she didn't know about lactose! Such clever advertising...

[whomovedmychocolate]

Well it's cow's breast milk isn't it?

ROFLMAO!

[Wallace]

[skerriesmum]

More seriously, does anyone know the difference between whey and casein? That would seem to be the difference between "first milk" and "follow-on milk"...
Still, what did she think it was made from?!

[DynamiteDaisy]

casein is a protein found in cow's milk. It is difficult to digest and as far as I understand, it's presence in second stage milks only serves to make bub's tummy feel fuller for longer. There is no difference, I believe, in the nutritional value/calorific value of first and secod stage milks.

I think the casein is removed from first stage milks.

[MerlinsBeard]

whey and casein are diff kinds of protein in milk aren't they?

whey is in first milks and casein in secnd/hungry baby milk as ittakes longer to digest

or i am completely wrong!

[jabuti]

skerrie, do you know if it was a misinformed decision of your sil to give formula? i was just curious.

[Pruners]

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[whomovedmychocolate]

Yeah Pruners - but it's a formula cow, not a dairy cow. The latter type can't do maths

[tiktok]

Good example of the lack of info even among an informed bunch of people!

Casein is not removed from first stage milk . But the proteins are modified so the proportion of casein is less than the proportion of whey, and yes, the milk is supposedly less difficult to digest. It's called whey dominant.

2nd stage and follow on are all casein dominant.

[DynamiteDaisy]

oooh tiktok....hence my "understand" "believe" and thinks"

also a good example of the lack of information on formula milks in general?

[skerriesmum]

Jabuti, she breastfed for 14 weeks and then just got tired of it, felt like she was feeding nonstop, wanted a break.

[skerriesmum]

But there's lactose in human milk too, right?

[jabuti]

skerrie, do you think she is upset now that she found it was cow's milk all along?

[tiktok]

Yep - lactose is present in all mammalian milks, and nothing you can do affects this. I get very irritated when mothers are told to omit lactose in their own diet in order to take out the lactose in breastmilk.

Daft.

[skerriesmum]

I don't think she's upset, just got the wrong end of the stick somehow. And she thinks babies shouldn't have dairy until one year in any form, I had to explain that it's OK to put it in cereal and give yogurt, cheese etc. just not to use in bottles as a main drink. When she was visiting a month ago she was mixing potato with formula to make mash (yuck!)
Tiktok, I've heard of babies being lactose-intolerant and mums having to put them on special allergy formula rather than continuing to breastfeed. I find it really hard to believe that babies can be allergic to their own mother's milk... is this possible?

[juuule]

According to this "Around two thirds of babies, either breast- or bottle-fed, will experience some degree of lactase deficiency in their early months without it causing them harm."
Interesting.

[jabuti]

poor woman. it must have given her food for thought.