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Back from bottle to breast - possible?

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Emmie412 · 13/04/2014 09:26

My little DD2 is week old now. She developed jaundice after birth and although breastfeeding started off ok (well, with some faffing with latching and positioning at the beginning of each feed which I thought was just us trying to get used to things, I ended up with sore cracked nipples while trying to get used to being suckled on almost constantly). However, once she got jaundiced she was very sleepy and reluctant to feed at all - and I ended up massively engorged as she had been a complete boob monster before.

I ordered a hospital grade double pump and tried to hand express in the meantime. We ended up giving her two formula feeds as it was important to keep her well hydrated.

I've got plenty of milk - I am currently exclusively pumping (basically timing them when she eats and once at night, missing one night feed as too tired) and getting ridiculous amounts, generally twice as much as she needs, we're currently about 8 feeds ahead of her needs so have started freezing some too.

I would like to get her back on the boob as the pumping is such a pain but don't know how to go about it. Midwife has assessed my feeding position lying down and said the position is all fine, noted that baby didn't want her head or neck touched in order to get her on the breast (which is quite essential with her wobbly newborn head popping about).

Attempts to feed her from the breast currently go as follows:

  • often screaming as soon as she has been put to the feeding position
  • sometimes entertains the thought of attempting to feed with nipple shield but only sucks on the teat end as does not open mouth wide open enough (last night suckled on for 30mins and seemed to be latched on okayish but was then inconsolable afterwards and went to take on a good 60mls from the bottle afterwards)
  • tends to refuse the nipple entirely


Does anyone have any words of advice or encouragement? Am I stuck with pumping or is there a way we could get this to work? I have a 4-year old DD as well so being stuck on double pump for 20mins every 3 hours or so is limiting our outings, especially it being half term now. I had similar issues feeding DD1 and ended up pumping, topping up and combination feeding and finally giving in to FF by week five as it was beginning to affect my mental health. I am nowhere near as emotional or stressed this time around and really would like this to work.

I am being referred to a one-to-one session with a lactation consultant and hopefully get an appointment next week, in the meantime keeping up the pumping to keep the milk flowing (and to stop me from being massively in pain from full breasts). I suspect she is completely nipple confused because of bottle, nipple shield, dummy and the poor rejected nipple...
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reubensfriend · 13/04/2014 09:51

I don't have any advice on how to go about getting your baby to latch on and feed successfully but I do know is possible as my sil did this successfully and got baby to ebf by the time she was 5 weeks old so don't give up, it can be done Smile Good luck.

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ChocolateHelps · 13/04/2014 10:13

Just did huge post but didn't upload. Will go to computer and try again.

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Emmie412 · 15/04/2014 08:27

Thought I'd update in case someone has any advice. It's now day 10 and my milk is mysteriously drying up on the left boob. It used to produce almost twice as much as the right one, e.g. nearly 70mls per go but now I am lucky to get a mere 20mls. I still pump as often as the baby feeds, including nights. My boobs and nipples are painful and I'm not entirely sure what to do anymore. Lactation consultant appointment is yet to come through but a midwife should visit today. Why does this always have to be so hard?!

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atthestrokeoftwelve · 15/04/2014 08:34

Please speak to la Leche League. This situation is fixable, you don't need to wait for the lactation appt. LLL helplines are open 24/7.

You do need some help with this, and getting your baby back on the nipple will mean you don't have to do all that pumping.
You may possibly have to ditch the bottle and dummy and cup or syringe feed to get baby back to breastfeeding. A LLL counsellor will help.

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soupmaker · 15/04/2014 10:15

I have a different experience but I managed to express and bottle feed my DD2 for over a week as she was unable to latch properly due to tongue tie and she went back onto boob and is still at it at 8 months and won't take a bottle!

So yes, it can be done.

But, I agree you need support and help ASAP. See if you can get someone to come round to help you from LLL. Call the national breastfeeding helpline too. Can you get support with your older DC? A lot of skin-to-skin is probably going to be needed and feeding lying down was critical to our success as we were both able to relax.

Good luck.

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ChocolateHelps · 15/04/2014 13:41

Google breast refusal on Kelly mom. Lots of skin to skin that isn't about feeding

Keep baby fed
Keep your milk up
Keep baby close

With patience and determination it can be done. Best to contact a local LLL breastfeeding counsellor who can help you thru the journey. Try going to meetings too. It's totally ok to go when expressing or mixed feeding to meet other mums who have other breastfeeding challenges but just being in a room of bf mums can be a real boost to your morale

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dannydyerismydad · 15/04/2014 13:49

La Leche League, NCT and BfN all have helplines and drop ins that you can access for free. Depending on your area, they may be able to send someone to your home.

Have a look at biological nurturing, or laid back breastfeeding - you lean back and baby's weight is supported by your body - it also helps baby control the flow.

You may want to look into cranial osteopathy too - if baby hates having head or neck touched, it could have some discomfort from the birth.

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