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How long will I have no life??

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amijee · 14/08/2006 14:15

I've just joined after having a baby boy nearly 3 weeks ago. I'm breastfeeding and having no probs with it except I'm not sure how long things continue in this way. His feeds roughly every 2 hours but sometimes it can be as little as an hour between the start of one and the next. He can take up to an hour to complete a feed ( with winding, changing and resting) so I feel like he is permanantly attached to me. He is putting on weight just fine and I put his frequent feeding down to being a small baby and arriving 10 days early.

I just need to be reassured that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. I'm due to go back to work in 3 mths and I'm already worrying about whether I will be able to leave him. I have started expressing to build up frozen stores and getting him used to the bottle which he takes well.

Is this everyone's experience in the first few weeks or should I be doing anything different? I'm terribly keen for him to settle into a 3-4 hourly routine but am reluctant to change from demand feeding at this stage.

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Jasnem · 14/08/2006 14:19

Hello, and congratulations!

It sounds like you are doing fine. 3 weeks is very tiny still, and I'd try and just keep on with what you are doing. My ds fell into a vague 3 hourly pattern on his ownby 3 months.

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Jasnem · 14/08/2006 14:19

Hello, and congratulations!

It sounds like you are doing fine. 3 weeks is very tiny still, and I'd try and just keep on with what you are doing. My ds fell into a vague 3 hourly pattern on his ownby 3 months.

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Quootiepie · 14/08/2006 14:19

about 12 weeks things settles down for me... btw i think you can only freeze milk for 3 months, but your work should allow you a place to express at work. Avent do an out and about pack I think for this.

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oops · 14/08/2006 14:23

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Eulalia · 14/08/2006 14:25

I found the following ... I think it depends on what type of freezer you have according to the length of storage time.

Storing Expressed Milk

Where to store? What container? How long?
How Much? Which should I use first?


Storage Choices- where to store
Breast Milk is a wonderful substance which is surprisingly easy to store. Because breast milk is a living fluid, storage does affect its properties. The 'order of preference' for using breast milk is:

1 .... Straight from the breast - Just the right temperature and always just right for baby!
2 .... Stored at room temperature - None of the active ingredients of breast milk, which protect against disease, are destroyed as no heating is required.
3 .... Stored in the fridge - None of the active ingredients are destroyed by storing it in the fridge, but care should be taken when reheating breast milk. Never microwave and do not heat above body temperature as this starts to break down that valuable protection. Breastmilk is safe to be stored in any fridge; there is not risk of it 'contaminating' normal food; this means that it is safe to store breast milk, appropriately labeled, in a fridge at work or at child care.
4 .... Stored in the freezer - the protection against disease offered by breast milk is destroyed by storing it in the freezer; however, it is still safer to use than formula milk, and much tastier for baby too!

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What Container?
You can store breast milk in any clean, sterilised sealed container. Many mums store their milk in the collection container(s) that are supplied with their pump, especially if the milk is going to be used fresh from the fridge. Other options include storing it in a feeding bottle, and storing it in plastic bags which are specially designed for breast milk (normal plastic bags may leach chemicals into the unfrozen milk).

Another option is to pour the expressed milk into a sterilised ice cube tray and store the milk cubes in a freezer bag.

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How long can breast milk be kept?
Breast milk is a complex substance, and the guidelines for storage are just that. When breast milk goes off, it smells, in much the same way as off cows milk smells.

Unrefridgerated: Breast milk should be fine at normal room temperature for 8 or more hours, in fact breast milk at room temperature may contain fewer bacteria after a couple of hours at room temperature than when it was first expressed.

Cool bag/boxThe length of time that breast milk can be stored in a cool bag depends on how cool it is; breast milk can be stored for 24 hours at an average temperature of 15 degrees C.

In the fridgeWhen storing breast milk in the fridge, keep it as far back as possible, away from the door. Fresh breast milk can be kept in the fridge for up to 8 days. If refridgerating milk prior to freezing, the breast milk can be kept in the fridge for up to 24 hours before being put into the freezer. Don't mix warm and cooled milk - you can add milk expressed later to earlier expressed milk, but the newer milk should be cooled down in the fridge first. The milk will keep as long as the oldest milk in the container.

In the Freezer Breast milk will keep for 3 to 6 months in freezer. To thaw, move to the fridge or to room temperature. Milk thawed in the fridge can be stored there for 24 hours after coming out of the freezer.

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How much breast milk should I store?
How much breast milk you need to store depends on how you are planning to use it. For the occasional night out, you may need as little as 4 oz for a 4 hour period, assuming that you feed just before going out; for a 10 hour working day including traveling you may need much more.

If baby is having expressed milk regularly then you will soon find out how much baby needs, but a rough guide would be 5 to 7 ounces every 3 hours for babies over 3 months.

It is best to store your milk in 2 to 4 oz quantities, so that only the amount that baby needs is warmed, as it can not be kept if baby doesn't finish it all. There is nothing more disheartening then finding that the whole 8 ounces which you had worked so hard to express were heated when baby only wanted a quick 3 ounces.

For women returning to work, it is a good idea to start expressing to build up a freezer stock from about 6 weeks. You may also find that you don't express all the milk that you baby needs while you are at work. This is perfectly normal as expressing milk is less efficient than baby at removing milk from the breast. Mums it that situation often find that adding an extra expression session at home and/or expressing at weekends lets them make up the difference.

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Which should I use first?
Use fresh breast milk first, then milk stored in the fridge, as both of these have valuable protection against disease. If you have neither of these, then use frozen breastmilk. Use the oldest milk of each type first.

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How should I heat it?
Breastmilk preferably should not be heated above body temperature. If the breast milk is already at room temperatrue, then your baby may very well happliy take it with out any heating at all.

The recommended way to heat breastmilk is to put it (in it's conatiner of course) in a jug of warm (not boiling) water.

There are several advantages to serving the milk at room temperature, or just above. There is less damage to the various active constituents of the milk. Milk at room temperature cools much slower than milk above body temperature, which means that the milk wont need reheating during a lengthy feed

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Jackstini · 14/08/2006 14:26

Well done Amijee for getting this far - the first few weeks are hardcore feeding aren't they but it is so worth it. There is light at the end of the tunnel I am sure. My dd started to go for 2 hours between at around 5-6 weeks then about 3 hours between at 9-10 weeks so you may find things are more sorted by the time you have to go back to work.
The fact you are feeding on demand AND managing to express AND getting ds used to a bottle is to be highly commended!
Here are the storage guidelines for you just in case milk storage

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amijee · 14/08/2006 14:44

thanks to everyone for making me feel better. It's very reassuring to know everthing is ok. I think I am going to find this site invaluable!

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MumofIsaac · 15/08/2006 10:00

Amijee

Congratulations! Believe me it does get easier. And as Jasnem said, 3 weeks is very very young. I had my first baby in December and my God it was hard! No-one can prepare you for what's in store. I had to call out a midwife on Christmas day because my boobs were so engorged, I could get DS to latch on and we were both in tears!! But by 12 weeks, we were definately settling into to a feeding pattern and it was the best thing ever. I get quite emotional just thinking about it all! Good luck!!

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rodillagrande · 15/08/2006 13:07

Oh I remember those early weeks. Constant cluster feeding - watch out for those growth spurts! Isn't there one around 3 weeks? It changes. Honest. It changes every week And it changes for the easier, really!

This may sound odd but try to make the most of the early feeding madness. Make yourself a nest somewhere that has all the amenities you want (tv, radio, magazines, comfy chair, flask of hot/cold drinks) and enjoy being so close to your baby.

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katyjo · 16/08/2006 11:24

I found those first few weeks really hard, I remember crying in the middle of the night telling my husband I was giving up b/f, I felt totally drained and it felt never ending. Hamish is now 4 months old, and he feeds about every 4 hours, he fed every 2 hours until about 4\5 weeks, you are through the hardest point it will only get easier from now on, b/f is hard but in a few weeks you won't it any other way!!

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UniSarah · 16/08/2006 21:30

Light at teh end of teh tunnel. You can get your life back in time.
I went out three evenings and one morning last week without boy. hes 5 months old, when he was 3 wks old he was like your LO.

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MissyCocker · 16/08/2006 21:37

Amijee, you're still in the hardest bit! It sounds like you're both doing really well though. I felt chained to the sofa with dd1, and envied people who had 3 or 4 hour gaps between feeds, but it settled down eventually. In a few weeks you'll be wondering where your newborn has gone, so try and enjoy your cuddles.

BTW if your feeling a bit used up, it might be an idea to stop expressing for a while until you feel you have a bit more time.

Congratulations!!

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