Exclusively expressing - week 5 and supply is dwindling :(

(37 Posts)
RiotBecky Wed 13-Nov-13 22:10:16

My pumping habits haven't been great, we've been combination feeding since day 1 as it took a while to build my supply up enough to give him a whole feed. I've been pumping 5ish times a day and last week I was pumping a good 600-650ml a day.
So far this week I've been lucky if I've reached 520, and today I've hit an all time low sad I'm eating porridge for breakfast and trying to drink more water, but what else can I do?? I've read online not to wake up just to pump as rest is very important, and during the night when I'm up to feed him I'm just too tired to stay up an extra 20 minutes to pump. Am I just being selfish and lazy??

stargirl1701 Wed 13-Nov-13 22:14:54

No advice but I found information here:

kellymom.com/bf/pumpingmoms/pumping/exclusive-pumping/

Jims Wed 13-Nov-13 22:18:20

Have you tried a hospital grade pump? Medela rent them on a next day delivery service and they are a lot more effective than shop bought ones

tiktok Wed 13-Nov-13 22:20:26

sad Becky , expressing longer term is never a picnic.

The biology of it is this: you build up and maintain supply only by expressing frequently day and night..at a minimum, 8 x in 24 hours. If the baby is feeding effectively on any occasion, then you can reduce.

Porridge and water make no real difference - honestly. They may have marginal effects at most.

The main impact will always be from frequency of effective removal - by a pump or by bf direct.

Long gaps between expressings/feeds reduce supply.

You can rescue things now by increasing the frequency - up to you to work out when you can do this.

I dont see anything selfish or lazy in your post, BTW!

RiotBecky Wed 13-Nov-13 22:21:03

Ive got a Lansinoh double electric which is ace, I haven't played around with the settings much though as I was getting plenty last week when I used it. Just hoping I haven't fucked up my supply completely as it's meant to increase every week, not decrease sad

RiotBecky Wed 13-Nov-13 22:24:44

Aaah tiktok, I've read so much of your advice on other people's posts you are lovely <3 Thank you for reassuring me that I'm not being a selfish knob. I tried out a power pump this evening, still got the same amount as if I had pumped for 20 mins so I'm not sure what they're meant to achieve? I will try and get in an extra 2 pumps a day, I've been manic at the moment and DS has had colic so I've barely been able to get the 6 that I have been as the only way he's settled has been in my arms.

Wish I could just be a recluse for a couple of weeks so I could get everything on track!

stargirl1701 Wed 13-Nov-13 22:29:00

I rewarded myself for pumping when I relactated. I counted out 12 chocolate raisins at 8am and I got to eat one every time I pumped over the next 24 hours. Incentive grin

Aquariusgirl86 Wed 13-Nov-13 22:34:55

Whenever this happened to me I pumped every 1.5/2 hours day AND night to get my supply back, it works. I exclusively pumped for 5 months and had a freezer full too. The night pumps are very important grin

RiotBecky Wed 13-Nov-13 22:40:22

Incentives are a good idea. I find it pretty hard to stay up and pump after a night feed when all I want to do is crawl back under the covers and try as get much sleep as possible til he's up again. Think I need to start dragging myself to bed a bit earlier :/

r3dsquirrel Wed 13-Nov-13 22:40:54

Pumping at night does make a huge difference, even if its just for 10 mins. I found that it was the frequency of pumping rather than the length of each pump that was most important. I very rarely pumped for more than 10 mins but I tried to pump every 3 hours with at least one overnight In the early days. Once my supply was well established I cut down to every 4 hours and eventually dropped the nightpump. If i ever needed to up my supply quickly id bring the night pump back.

Good luck. Exclusive expressing is hard work and youve done amazingly well to get this far.

RiotBecky Wed 13-Nov-13 22:41:53

Lawdy I'd love a freezer full!!! I'd love him to just be completely booby-milk fed tbh. How did you drag yourself out of bed every 2 hours?? Especially combined with looking after a baby??

RiotBecky Wed 13-Nov-13 22:43:14

So it doesn't matter how long I do it for??? So at night I could do a quick 10 minute one? That sounds a lot better than dragging out a 20 minute pump. Be nice if someone could just attach it to me whilst I'm sleeping lol

RiotBecky Thu 14-Nov-13 09:35:12

Persuaded myself to pump at midnight, 3am and 6am last night, wasn't as horrific as I expected :D

tiktok Thu 14-Nov-13 09:57:40

Becky - yes, it's frequency that counts rather than time pumping. One good tip is to pump until spurts become trickles, then swap sides, and do the same on the other side. You can swap back and back again when you have more time, but a few minutes getting each side to trickle stage once is a good compromise in the middle of the night.

Good luck smile

RiotBecky Thu 14-Nov-13 10:32:13

It's a double pump so no side swapping required. it does have a let-down mode but ive never known when or how to use it?

tiktok Thu 14-Nov-13 10:32:58

Dunno about let-down mode, sorry.

Double pump is fab - a time saver smile

MrsMarigold Thu 14-Nov-13 10:36:47

Can you try breast feeding or is it impossible, I've pumped with my son and then bf my daughter and I actually ended up enjoying breastfeeding. Pumping is so tiring. Good luck and I had the odd fenugreek supplement to boost supply.

RiotBecky Thu 14-Nov-13 10:41:33

I have flat nipples and he just won't latch and ends up getting stressed and windy, just gets us both anxious and worked up, and I love the convenience of pumping in all honesty.

MrsSpencerReid Thu 14-Nov-13 10:45:58

When I was expressing my partner would feed DS at night whilst I pumped, is this an option? It certainly made things easier as feeding/pumping took about the same length of time and he could poke me when I fell asleep!!

RiotBecky Thu 14-Nov-13 11:09:21

DP works full time so he doesn't get up for night feeds, alright for some!

MrsSpencerReid Thu 14-Nov-13 13:11:14

He didn't do it every night, just when he was on a late the next day, and only for the first 6/8 weeks smile

Aquariusgirl86 Thu 14-Nov-13 13:12:08

Sorry just caught up with this, I set an alarm for every 2-3 hours then eventually dropped it to 4 hours if supply started lowering if reduce the gaps. Don't know, I just got used to sleep deprivation :-P still haven't had a full night sleep in 2.5 years!
Good luck it's a great thing you are doing grin

KatAndKit Thu 14-Nov-13 15:10:00

Remember you are also working full time!

fanjobiscuits Thu 14-Nov-13 15:12:52

Could you use a sling then pump with it in? My baby bjorn one would sling low enough to do this. That way you might have happy baby + pumping option?

fanjobiscuits Thu 14-Nov-13 15:14:37

Or would brief feed work to help build supply without too much stress? As mouth gets bigger might help bf poss be a bit easier for both of you?!?

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