Listen to MNers talking about sleep, stress and energy on the Boots Feel Good Forum and tell us what you think - voucher to be won

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TheOtherHelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Fri 12-Apr-13 10:39:39

We hope lots of you tuned in to the Boots Feel Good Forum about sleep, stress and energy, but if you missed it, please listen to the podcast. The show discusses ways to improve sleep, cope with stress and feel more energised. MNers have been posting about this - please see their comments below.

The show features Sleep Expert Professor Colin Espie, Behavioural Psychologist Emma Kenny and Registered Nutritionist Sarah Bernard. Professor Espie and Sarah have also answered some MNers' Qs that they didn't have time to cover on the show on this thread so please have a read of those below.

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lottietiger Tue 16-Apr-13 12:54:33

I have a 12 week old baby and i am going back to work in 7 weeks time as im sharing maternity leave with my partner. Im getting stressed about returning and starting to wake and not be able to get back to sleep at night. Every new day just seems like a countdown til i return to work. Any tips please.. i dont want to feel like im wasting the time worrying.

OhHullitsOnlyMeYoni Tue 16-Apr-13 13:26:11

I have a Q about sleep; when I sleep I get really hot. I don't feel hot (only sweated at night in pg) but apparently I burn up. I have noticed that DD is sweaty when she co-sleeps with me (presumably because she insists on lying on me and gets too hot!) and wondered if there is a reason behind it or if I should be concerned? I usually feel the cold a lot in the day.

thereonthestair Tue 16-Apr-13 16:05:53

I struggle to get enough sleep as I always seem to have a cough which lasts weeks and weeks with any cold. My GPs say there is nothing they can do about it and I just need to be less stressed so I get fewer colds. What they can't suggest is how to be less stressed (I have a child with SN and also work). Is there anything I can do which stops me coughing and therefore stops me sleeping all night?

CountryBelle Tue 16-Apr-13 18:43:37

How can I calm myself down during my extremely busy day? If I try deep breathing I only manage about 3 breaths then I realise I've got about a million other jobs to get done, so best get on with them!!

Energy levels always though, motivation zero, stress and anxiety levels through the roof.


Only 26 and feel like I can't face a life of this.

2712 Tue 16-Apr-13 19:55:17

I feel completely worn out all day long as I cannot seem to sleep for long periods at night. I seem to be waking up practically every hour and tossing and turning all the time.
Am going through first stages of menopause so am having hot flushes which mean I tend to get into bed and throw the cover off immediately even when it's freezing outside.
The only good nights sleep I have had in the last few months was when I persuaded our GP to give me some sleeping pills was heaven as for two whole weeks I slept like a log and woke feeling refreshed and ready for the day. Of course when the 2 weeks was up I immediately went back to sleeping badly again.
Really tired .....any advice?

rachel19784 Wed 17-Apr-13 12:56:44

I suffer from M.E so I really do need my rest, yet find myself still wide awake at 2am paying bills on line, writing my blog, unloading the dishwasher ect and i have to be up at 6am for the kids for school.I need help and advice please.

rachel19784 Wed 17-Apr-13 12:58:41

I suppose the best tip would be to stop using your computers, mobile devices ect and let yourself unwind before bed, hard though when the evening is the only chance you get to catch up on things.

CarrieDon Wed 17-Apr-13 14:09:17

GP said last week that most of the population is probably deficient in Vit D especially after this long winter we've had. DC has been recommended to take a Vit D supplement to try to boost her energy levels.

I do wonder about whether the router being on affects the quality of our sleep - difficult to know. Having black out blinds in the bedroom has helped.

worldgonecrazy Wed 17-Apr-13 18:16:01

Best advce I had was "An hour before midnight is worth two after."

zzzexhaustedzzz Wed 17-Apr-13 19:33:31

Sleep: Celestial Seasonings 'sleepytime' tea. Lavender, if you like the smell. If you can't sleep stick the world service on or read a book for a bit. Meditation/ breathing exercises.
Energy: berocca. Big breakfasts. (Porridge or the full English even!)
Exercise and fresh air obviously help both.
Obvious things but sometimes, when stressed and or busy with children it is hard to remember to do anything!

PavlovtheCat Wed 17-Apr-13 22:22:03

I am bookmarking this, not so much to give some tips, but to read the tips given! I suffer from tirednes and sleep problems so I am going to read some fab tips I am sure. In particular looking for tips on how to wake up with energy as I struggle to get up in the mornings, due to feeling groggy.

One though quickly. I cannot live without berrocca. Or rather, boots own much cheaper version (identical). Not sure if it's placebo affect or what, but it lifts me a little. Also cut out caffeine. You will notice a dip in energy to start with, but soon that will fade (or cut down if you're a caffeine addict like me!). My skin is soooooo much clearer, the bags less obvious. Still exhausted, but feel less so.

marl Thu 18-Apr-13 11:52:36

I used to have lots of sleep and good sleep. Then I had 3 children and my whole sleep pattern was decimated as well as becoming cat-like so I wake if anyone even stirs. With DD3 now 3, I have just regained some of my old good sleep. These are my tips that I think are working:
- I sleep with ear defenders (yes really, the big ones kids wear at festivals). I am no longer bothered by DPs snoring or anything else. I am a new woman. If there is a crisis with the kids then DP wakes or wakes me...if it is just low level dream/shouting in sleep then I don't wake and don't need to. Definitely not sexy, but I like them!
- If I have time, a nice bath and hot chocolate mid evening.
Trying where poss not to drink if I'm just 'in' in the evening. If I can get downstairs after kids bedtime and have a soft drink and avoid alcohol until 8 then I'm generally less inclined to want it.
- I take rhodiola for 'calm' just before bed rather than in the morning with my multivit as before. This seems to help me but I've read for some people it has the opposite effect.
- I have had a surgical procedure to separate me from my iphone and now leave it downstairs when I go to bed. It takes this obsession away and also stops it flickering in the night if someone texts etc
All very very boring I know and I wouldn't fully admit to this level of obsession face to face, but I do feel a lot better and now hop out of bed early morning for a peaceful cuppa before anyone else is up. And most of the above don't count for the weekend of course.

inzidoodle Thu 18-Apr-13 12:15:40

- How to get a good night's sleep
- How to cope with stress - could be work or just general life stess!
- How to stay energised during the day

The magic answer (for me!) is simply fresh air and exercise!! I make sure at some point every day I walk between 1-3 miles no matter what the weather. I have a DD 5 and DS 2 and a dog and always find the time to go walking. My favourite time which really helps me unwind and relax is going out at 7pm just me and my dog and walking a brisk 3miles........I sleep much better, I unwind and I feel energised.

Belo Thu 18-Apr-13 14:58:02

My husband suffers from severe work related anxiety and finds it very difficult to switch off. Any suggestions on how he can affectively manage this? (and enable for us both to get a good nights sleep?)

BubblesAndBeans Thu 18-Apr-13 20:19:29

I have a 15 month old dd who has been teething badly for the last few months which has resulted in a lot of restless nights. I struggled in the beginning to keep my energy levels up, especially as my job is quite stressful. I have discovered that exercise on my lunch break and small, healthy but regular meals helps me to maintain my energy levels and has helped me to keep coughs and colds at bay, whereas before I was ill every other week.

leanneth Thu 18-Apr-13 22:06:57

I find that acupuncture helps with all three issues stated- sleep, stress and energy. A feeling of wellness and internal balance helps to improve all of it!

Hopezibah Thu 18-Apr-13 22:30:47

my top tip re: stress is not to pretend it is not happening but to face up to it and ask for help if you need it. I struggled throughout last year and only reached out for help recently when things began to totally overwhelm me and I'm so glad I did because everyone has been so understanding and supportive.

SetFiretotheRain Thu 18-Apr-13 22:56:29

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Dittle Fri 19-Apr-13 19:33:49

I find that if you get some fresh air during the day it really helps you de-stress and help a good night's sleep.

JedwardScissorhands Sat 20-Apr-13 15:46:36

I have been taking a magnesium supplement before bed and it has really helped. I now wake up refreshed in the morning and feeling like I have actually slept. Apparently it relaxes muscles / relieves tension etc

curbyourenthusiasm Sun 21-Apr-13 14:17:50

I am new mother of a now 3 month old baby . I often find i cannot get back to sleep after feeding her at 5am ( breast feeding at present) . As a result i would only fall back asleep at 7.30 am and this leave me tired for rest of day. Any tips?

fergieek Sun 21-Apr-13 18:16:28

Hello! I am really enjoying the forum, thanks. Could I ask Colin Espie please - do you think the psycho education of Cognitive Behavioural Therapy works well for people with insomnia? Does it make a difference whether the insomnia is primary or secondary for CBT to work well? I'd be really interested in your views/experience. Many thanks

hannahbeanie Sun 21-Apr-13 19:36:28

I have been getting mostly 2 hours sleep for 16 years since my 2nd son was born, I have tried every trick/pill in the book. Im getting really desperate for sleep, I don't think I can cope much longer this way. I kept a sleep diary and then was told not to clock watch. I cant do both. I have been to the doctors so often the receptionist know who I am before I tell them.

TheOtherHelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Sun 28-Apr-13 21:11:45

Thanks to everyone who posted a question about sleep, stress or energy on this thread - experts Professor Colin Espie and Registered Nutritionist Sarah Bernard have answered some of the questions they didn't have time to cover in the show here - please do have a read below.

Professor Colin Espie has been researching sleep and sleep problems for over 30 years, and is one of the world's leading experts on sleep. He co-founded, a clinically proven sleep improvement programme, to allow the widest population possible to benefit from his findings.

Alongside his role as Clinical and Scientific Director of Sleepio, Prof. Espie recently joined the Nuffield Department of Clinical Neurosciences / Sleep & Circadian Neuroscience Institute at the University of Oxford.

ProfessorColinEspie Sun 28-Apr-13 21:19:34


I often find myself wide awake in the early hours despite keeping window open, being tired, not needing to go to the loo. I just find my mind buzzing with what's gone on and what is to come the next day. I wouldn't necessarily say that I'm anxious, just seriously awake. Should I try and persevere with sleep or is it ok to get up and do something to occupy my mind?

Could you be a morning lark, at your best in the morning, preferring to be up early and to make the most of the early part of the day? If so, it is important to get to bed at a reasonable time each night to ensure you get enough sleep.

Ignoring your body clock and attempting to fight your mind from planning the day ahead is likely to leave you more frustrated and awake. These kinds of thoughts often require concentrated attention, which is why they are best dealt with during the day, when you are awake!

If you find yourself wide-awake, mind racing during the night, try getting up and out of bed and only return if you feel truly sleepy.

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