Please don't promote blogs that aren't in the Mumsnet Bloggers Network. Join the network

I can't find the original thread...but what *is* this section meant to be about...

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Tee2072 Tue 26-Mar-13 20:50:27

the conversation sort of died, the thread is way down the list somewhere, and we never really got an answer from HQ.

Anyone still interested in the answer?

Tee2072 Sat 30-Mar-13 21:38:13

Ah well, guess we've lost the will to do this. It was worth a shot.

Bumping as I'm still interested (sorry, back to old name for a bit - was my original thread)

Must admit though, haven't been around here in a while. Though have dusted off my old name this weekend and dove back into the the rest of the site (though regretted it a little)

racheyp Fri 05-Apr-13 19:01:37

Message deleted by Mumsnet for breaking our Talk Guidelines. Replies may also be deleted.

I doubt it rachey

Tee2072 Fri 05-Apr-13 20:50:00

Oh, sorry, didn't realize anyone had replied.

So...are we still interested? Is MNHQ still interested?

MmeLindor Sat 06-Apr-13 10:24:26

Marking place

I think we very much need a blogger positive spin doc on MN

Tee2072 Sat 06-Apr-13 11:02:51

I think before we get that, MMeL, we need HQ to tell us the bloggers what they are hoping to accomplish, other than constant guest blogs. What are they doing to help the members of the network?

I'm actually about to change the focus of my blog (drum roll please!) and the design and everything and not sure I will actually still be a part of the network anyway. And I'm not sure being a part of it has accomplished anything, to be honest.

MmeLindor Sat 06-Apr-13 11:23:02

I hardly get any hits from MN unless someone links to my blog so, can't say being part of the network helps in that way

MmeLindor Sat 06-Apr-13 11:31:51

Which sounds rude. Being part of the MN Blogger Network has been beneficial for me, and I love the contacts that I've made through it.

I like the guest posts idea, with talk thread attached - not so keen on the Sleb guest blog but can see that it would boost viewers than if an 'ordinary' blogger would guest.

peekyboo Sat 06-Apr-13 20:33:21

I gained quite a lot of new followers from being a featured blogger, so that has definitely helped. Ad some advice on this forum, of course. Otherwise, it seems to come down to the odd mention and taking part in surveys.

I can't do the product test thing with my blog as it just isn't that kind of blog, so that side of Mumsnet involvement is lost for me.

I'm sure there are simple things that can be done to open us up to a bigger audience, especially as MNHQ must be a lot more media savvy than most of us bloggers (no offence to any wonderfully media savvy bloggers out there!)

KateMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 08-Apr-13 14:44:49

Hello all - thanks for this, and huge apols for the delay in responding.

We have been giving this lots of thought - honest. These things can take <ahem> a little while, but we've now got some changes underway which we really hope will make a big difference.

Firstly, we're going to be redesigning homepage to make it much more engaging, and give us extra space promote more of your blogs.

We've also designed a 'blog of the day' block, which will soon be appearing on most Mumsnet Talk pages. We hope this will raise the profile of the Bloggers Network, and integrate it much more effectively with the rest of the site - as well as bringing lots of traffic to those blogs.

And we're also going to have a 'latest blogs' box on key Talk topics pages, which will link out to some recent, related blogs. We think this will be a great way to introduce interested MNers to blogs that will interest them, and which they mightn't otherwise see.

We're also exploring ways of encouraging more MNers to blog - we'd really like it to be seen as equivalent to MN-ing, but longform wink

Finally, we're going to experiment with allowing MN Bloggers to link to their blogs on all Talk topics, and not just this one, as currently. We're working on the guidelines for this - as you know there can be some <cough> resistance on the boards, so we want to be clear to bloggers and non-bloggers alike about when it's fine to do this, and when it's not. But this will be happening sooner rather than later.

With our guest blogs, we've had several brill ones recently from MN Bloggers: Lowden Clear on disability hate crime, Stephanie Pomfrett on the rise of one-child families, Chiller on the Daily Mail's Philpott front page, Pint-sized Rants on Eddie Mair's grilling of Boris, and Glosswitch on press regulation for bloggers. They were all great - and the plan is to continue with a mix of guest posts from MN bloggers, and public figures/experts.

Some of these changes will happen soon, others (eg the homepage redesign) will inevitably take a lot bit longer - but we hope they'll make a big difference and we're v excited. Do let us know what you think?

peekyboo Mon 08-Apr-13 16:13:53

Sounds brill! I like the thought of a blog of the day on the homepage and really like the idea of blogs appearing next to the relevant talk pages - I think this will really bring in longer-term readers to our blogs.
I'm not sure how clear you'll have to be re linking to blogs in the signature as it could be confusing to both bloggers and other posters, so some topics might be waylaid by people becoming distracted over whether or not it's acceptable to link to a blog.
Also, just to be awkward, how could people tell the difference between a genuine blogger and their link or someone posting a link in their sig which claims to be a blog but is just an ad or link to a profit-making site?

KateMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 08-Apr-13 16:18:45

I think, peekyboo, that we probably won't allow links in signatures (which aren't very common on the Talk boards anyway). We'll more likely say that the link has to be in the body of the post, as an addition to the point that the blogger is making as part of her contribution to the thread itself - does that make sense, or have I got the wrong end of the stick?

peekyboo Mon 08-Apr-13 16:26:37

It does make sense, I'm just wondering how it might be open to abuse - it may attract bad behaviour as it would be the only way to have a valid link in your post. I'm not arguing with it, you understand, just looking for any problems before the event, so that it isn't de-railed before it's had a chance to become useful.

(PS Synchronicity at work, but my blog post today is about getting the wrong end of the stick lol)

Tee2072 Mon 08-Apr-13 19:27:34

The only thing I have to question Kate is encouraging more bloggers. There's a zillion so there's no way to keep up and no way for HQ to promote evenly.

I would also like the concern addressed that some people have a badge but have no idea what MN is about. See recently deleted Talk thread as reference...she was a MNBN member who didn't know what AIBU was...surely if you're going to blog with the help of MNBN, you should be an active member of the site?

The rest sounds good!

KateMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 08-Apr-13 22:41:52

Good points Peekyboo. And we're pondering whether it would be best if everyone could see at a glance that a poster was a boney fidey MN blogger - will keep you updated, but would love to hear what you think?

Tee, actually there aren't currently that many in comparison to other networks. And of course no network could promote everyone, once you get beyond (say) a hundred bloggers. What we can do is enable our bloggers to promote each other, and that's our next must-do. We'd really appreciate everyone's input on this.

On your second point Tee, about MN bloggers not necessarily 'getting' MN as a whole - I think that's something we can signpost on our 'join us' pages. Thanks - we hadn't thought of that.

MmeLindor Tue 09-Apr-13 14:21:05

That all sounds good, Kate.

I'm like the idea of being able to post links on threads, but worry that it might create a backlash if abused by those who really don't understand the site. And a resulting 'MN are all horrible nasty bullies' BN flounce blog post.

An advert for MN BN (converting Mnetters) could go along the lines of

'AIBU to think that I have too many opinions for one website?' - Got more to say? Start a blog.


I really like it when the MN Local team use MN terminology in their adverts. It creates a feeling of being part of the site, not a separate entity.

I like the idea of linking to blogs around the website, not just on the MNBN page, and think it should be strongly worded as 'this is what our MN blogger thinks' and 'read what our MmeL has to say on this issue'

MmeLindor Tue 09-Apr-13 14:22:15

And yes. It would be good if people could see at a glance that the blogger was a MN Blogger.

Perhaps a badge on our profiles, that were added when we join the network? So that people can check before they complain.

PetiteRaleuse Tue 09-Apr-13 14:32:55

Hmm, not sure how much non bloggers would appreciate us linking to our blogs in posts elsewhere on the site. Certainly those that spam the pages will be flamed (I remember someone signed off every post with his blog for a while) but even so, there is a fair amount of negativity about bloggers on MN in general.

Tee2072 Tue 09-Apr-13 14:40:45

That's one of things we're hoping to address Petite.

PetiteRaleuse Tue 09-Apr-13 14:53:41

The negativity?

Tee2072 Tue 09-Apr-13 14:55:08

Yes, the bad attitude toward bloggers because they blog.

PetiteRaleuse Tue 09-Apr-13 15:03:42

How many of us are there now?

KateMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 09-Apr-13 15:29:49

That, my dear MmeL, is a blardy BRILL idea for an ad!

PetiteRaleuse, there are 2700 and rising shock - though it's probably fair to say that a fair chunk of those post very irregularly.

On the negativity issue - I think we will just have to give it a bash, and be prepared to rethink if it all goes belly up. We'll probably start a thread to let MNers know that we're trialling it - with luck, that will prepare the ground, and allow us to disseminate the excellent comparison with magazines, made by landofmakebelieve on the other thread.

Though I expect there will be a <coughs> period of adjustment. And we'll need some watertight 'Them's the rules' criteria for when it's okay to link.

Tee2072 Tue 09-Apr-13 15:31:40

I'm her agent, Kate. She get's £1m for the idea and I get 10%...

MmeLindor Tue 09-Apr-13 15:33:16

I am readying my hard hat in anticipation.

Should have stayed in Geneva. That bunker is looking good right now.

Can I make another suggestion - if you would let us know before you start the thread so that we can get a few blogger friendly people ready. I find that the first 10 or 20 posts on a thread decide how the thread is going to go. If we can get a positive start, then it might go ok.

Can I have a [quakes] emoticon please, Bob.

MmeLindor Tue 09-Apr-13 15:33:36

HA Tee.

You are so HIRED

PetiteRaleuse Tue 09-Apr-13 15:36:09

So the rules will be something like linking to a post you have done on a particular subject on a thread about that particular subject would be OK have to admit I have done that on two occasions when I cba to write it all out again ?

By the way I really enjoyed writing the guest post a couple of weeks ago. It was a shame the discussion didn't get very far - the guest post-linked discussions seem to be a bit hit and miss enthusiasm wise. Is that why some of the latest ones have been on the same thread, ie the post is at the top of the thread, rather than being on a separate page - sure I saw that this week, though might be going mad?

KateMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 09-Apr-13 15:37:16

Arf tee.

Yes, we were definitely planning to do that - and completely agree re the first 10 or 20 posts. How's best to do so - Twitter? Here? Newsletter?

PetiteRaleuse Tue 09-Apr-13 15:37:38

Good idea re getting the post off to a positive start.

Tee2072 Tue 09-Apr-13 15:37:57

I noticed that too, Petite. I think it's made a real difference in people reading and responding.

Stick with me MmeL, we'll go far... grin

MmeLindor Tue 09-Apr-13 15:50:24

Yes, think that is good for getting discussion going.

It would be great if we could do a planned guest post once a month or so - that we agree to all post on a particular subject and do a mega link up. They are always quite good.

KateMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 09-Apr-13 15:58:00

Sorry - my last about letting you all know in advance was to MmeL. And good idea about monthly linkies too.

PetiteRaleuse that's exactly right - we're putting the guest posts in the OP of the thread to make it easier for others to comment without having to go back and forth between pages (and thank you again).

Re 'the rules' - hmm, I think we might have to let people know that they shouldn't post their URL as their only contribution to a particular thread. Might be perceived as being a bit like thrusting a pamphlet into someone's hands in RL, then scarpering?

PetiteRaleuse Tue 09-Apr-13 16:01:25

Yeah of course.

Even in the bloggers section I have pretty much given up on the weekly link thread. It used to be a fun thread with lots of discussion but now it is a post and run and just not the same.

KateMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 09-Apr-13 16:08:53

Would it be an idea if MNB HQ started those threads, with encouragement not to just post a bald URL, and an invitation to stay and chat?

PetiteRaleuse Tue 09-Apr-13 16:17:48

I don't know. It would be an extra thing for you to have to think about and people might not change anyway. I haven't been on them for a while so not sure if what I am whining about saying is still relevant.

KateMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 09-Apr-13 16:26:10

Gotcha - we'll leave as is for now.

We're also mulling a 'your best post of the month' linky - might be a good way of helping MN bloggers to promote their posts more widely?

PetiteRaleuse Tue 09-Apr-13 16:28:21

I like that idea.

Linkies are always a good way to read new things.

MmeLindor Tue 09-Apr-13 16:44:11

There isn't much chat now on the dump and run thread, but there could be if we all just decided to do it.

I don't really think it brings a lot of hits cause it is v insular. It is just us reading each others blogs, rather than normal MNetters reading them.

I like the idea of a 'Roundup'

PetiteRaleuse Tue 09-Apr-13 16:46:54

That's true, it doesn't bring many hits but I felt more pat of a community when we all chatted though. But there were fewer of us then too.

Tee2072 Tue 09-Apr-13 17:54:42

I still think HQ should stop looking for new bloggers. I understand the want for a lot on other networks, but I think it could be unique to MH to have bloggers who:

Are actually part of the wider MN community and post on at least the MNBN board

Actually update their blogs!

Don't slag MN off on Twitter or elsewhere but expect support from MNBN


KateMumsnet (MNHQ) Wed 10-Apr-13 11:51:40

Take your point, Tee. I think it's hard to argue against growth per se - but agree that we certainly be looking to encourage existing MNers to blog (and help them 'get' blogging) rather than looking externally.

MmeLindor Wed 10-Apr-13 13:00:10

the point was just made on the other thread about the kind of bloggers we accept. I don't mind new blogs - in fact I just discovered a great one today via your latest newsletter.

I think that blogs whose sole existence is to promote or sell a product, or to blag products, really shouldn't be on MN.

KateMumsnet (MNHQ) Wed 10-Apr-13 21:42:28

MmeLindor - agreed. We don't welcome blogs which don't offer any real content other than that designed to sell their products - nor those which (when they register and we have a look at them) consist mainly of reviews or sponsored posts.

We don't only want to be open to blogs which are beautifully written/topical/display expertise, because that would be a bit elitist, and not in the spirit of MN - so we do sometimes give the benefit of the doubt. But we really don't want promoblogs in the network.

KateMumsnet (MNHQ) Wed 10-Apr-13 21:47:18

Interesting suggestion over here - what do you lot reckon?

fuzzypicklehead Thu 11-Apr-13 15:00:08

This is probably a really stupid point, but because I do sometimes view my blogposts as MN posts in long form I get annoyed that I can't use the emoticons when I'm blogging.

At some point after joining mumsnet, the posting style here permeated my brain and now I find myself thinking hmm or biscuit in real life. Fair enough, in face-to-face conversations I can contort my expression accordingly or shove a biscuit into some big stupidhead's face but it just doesn't work in the blog.

Are there gifs of the mumsnet smileys floating around somewhere that we could use in posts where we're "speaking Mumsnet"?

KateMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 11-Apr-13 15:18:03

I will enquire of our technological team, fuzzypicklehead. And lol at shoving biscuits: "Here - have THIS" then turning tail and marching off.

MmeLindor Thu 11-Apr-13 18:14:29

I like the idea of wandering around with a packet of Jammy Dodgers, ready to stuff one in the mouth of some nitwit.

Can you organise that too, Kate?

fuzzypicklehead Thu 11-Apr-13 20:24:11

I'm already on it. as my husband would confirm if his mouth wasn't full

Tee2072 Mon 15-Apr-13 14:13:35

I actually once 'stole' the code link for MN smilies but I figured I'd get in trouble if I used them some place other than MN.

I can't remember how I figured it out or what I did with it though...

::shoves choc digestive in preschoolers mouth for 5 minutes peace::


Tee2072 Mon 29-Apr-13 19:32:26

Okay, so the announcement was posted.

Has anyone linked to their blogs from the main boards?

Have you had any feedback on doing that?

Hi all,

Read this thread will interest. I have been a little light on my mumsnet trips recently, but that's due to starting working full time and having no time for anything! I used to love sharing posts in the weekly posts thread, and visited it, and the associated blogs linked there, in a weekly glug of blog reading. It was nice to share, comment, and be able to ask other bloggers their thoughts specifically as peers. It's a shame it's use has died down

I have posted a discussion thread elsewhere in Talk today and, even though I knew the rules say I could link to my post this week on the same subject, I didn't. I felt nervous I'd be shouted out of the room for daring to link.

Hoping the new rules will find their feet though, and that both blogging and non-blogging mums-netters can find a comfortable balance on the boards.

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