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Louise Mensch MP talks Twitter, trolls and motherhood

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ElenMumsnetBloggers (MNHQ) Mon 02-Jul-12 09:52:20

This week, Mumsnet Bloggers Network is one year old. To celebrate, we're hosting a week of blogging activities - which kicks off today with MP Louise Mensch's guest blog. She explains why she ran for MP, how she juggles parenting with politics and why Conservative HQ was alarmed by her tweets. Read it here and leave comments on this thread - about blogging, about Louise's new venture Menshn, or about what she's said.

nethunsreject Mon 02-Jul-12 10:13:13

shock Really? Louise Mensch? She's brave!

weenwee Mon 02-Jul-12 10:16:07

She not put off by internet trolls? Funny, I actually consider her one...

strangerwithmyface Mon 02-Jul-12 10:28:46

I think there's a lot of misogyny on the internet - men hiding behind the anonymity of the web - but I agree with Louise that it's a great leveller. TV and radio may still be very masculine domains but woman can create gender neutral or female-friendly spaces online. Every new site we set up (in the right spirit) is another corner of the web we've colonised.

Wordsmith Mon 02-Jul-12 10:32:13

That's not a blog, it's a plug!

LynnCSchreiber Mon 02-Jul-12 10:52:53

Mumsnet. I love you. I love the bloggers network and have great admiration for the women who run it.

But this was a bad idea.

Her post is not about her life juggling a career and family. It was a bare faced advert for her controversial new venture.

There are thousands of women who could have written a better post.

Will be good publicity though.

anytimefrances Mon 02-Jul-12 11:05:25

I Agree with much of what Louise says, particularly about bringing new fresh life to politics and particularly about making it a more level playing field. Also others 'ganging up' and giving one a bad time which I can't stand at all. I disagree with some of her opinions and passions but that's what make for lively debate on the net.

pinkpyjamas Mon 02-Jul-12 11:58:18

Elen, how long does the review procedure usually take re adding a blog to the MN Network, please?

I applied in the first week of June but have not had a response yet.

fireice Mon 02-Jul-12 12:27:00

I agree with the troll comment. Why do you think we want to know anything more about this woman than we already do.
And I dont know what her website is meant to be for, looks a lot like twitter.

JoanneMallon Mon 02-Jul-12 13:13:52

I don't understand why you're celebrating the blog network with a post by someone saying that they've stopped blogging.

JustineMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 02-Jul-12 15:24:30

JoanneMallon

I don't understand why you're celebrating the blog network with a post by someone saying that they've stopped blogging.

Well we've got a guest blog from Louise because she's interesting - much written about, much in the news what with Hackgate, Levenson, internet trolls, her use of social media. So we thought it was an interesting person to do a guest blog for us and clearly she's given her new network a bit of a plug, but I think in similar circs w'ed all do the same, don't you grin?

SheIsTheCatsMother Mon 02-Jul-12 15:51:06

"celebration" and "Louise Mensch" are mutually exclusive, surely?

ElenMumsnetBloggers (MNHQ) Mon 02-Jul-12 15:57:22

Hi Pinkpyjamas,

What's your blog called? We'll have a look for your application now.... <hunts down blog through email trails>

pinkpyjamas Mon 02-Jul-12 16:19:34

Thanks, Elen.
I've sent you a PM smile

Viviennemary Mon 02-Jul-12 16:43:37

I saw her on Question Time once not long ago. And didn't agree with very much she said. Can't think why she of all people has been chosen to be promoted by Mumsnet. confused

She's fabulous! Agree with almost nothing politically, you gotta hand it to her during the episode when Rupert Murdoch was attacked, she was the only MP who got up as the rest were in a state of shock.

JoanneMallon Mon 02-Jul-12 17:22:16

I get that she's interesting, but the world is full of interesting people. Some of them aren't even plugging anything. It still seems odd to mark a celebration of your blogging network by showcasing someone who doesn't blog, and in fact makes a point of saying that she used to, but stopped. It's hardly bigging up the blogging massive, is it?

I gave up blogging once.

Worst week of my life.

PS My book is available from all good Amazons for £7.99. Social network not included.

PPS I leave you with some thoughts from my favourite tweeter, Drunk George Osborne AKA @OsborneDrunk:

"I've founded a new media start-up company called Osbrn. It's not named after me! Osbrn let's you discuss stuff with other people. In many ways it's a lot like the rest of the Internet, and we all know how popular that is."

LynnCSchreiber Mon 02-Jul-12 17:24:48

If we are plugging our blogs, am I allowed to mention mine (name on profile) and that I started a pre-teen blog called Jump Mag for girls.

grin

fireice Mon 02-Jul-12 17:27:10

She is interesting, but its not in a good way is it.

UnChartered Mon 02-Jul-12 17:52:53

there are lots of us who have an idea as to why Ms Mensch went into politics...i doubt she's mentioned those in her blog hmm and it sure ain't what the locals want in an MP either

Xenia Mon 02-Jul-12 18:12:24

I looked at the Menschn thing and you can only write 180 characters. That is no good and particularly not for those of us who like to write huge chunks of text.

What Ms M can write about is (a) why she took her second husband's name despite its not being the name of her children and having established good will and reputation in her first name in 2012 and presumably a feminist - it was an appalling example

(b) what it is like to be married to a much older man who lives on a diffeernt continent - I bet he doesn't spend too many hours reading stories to and ferrying his step children around so I cannot see how it can be an acceptable marriage in feminist terms. (Someone will now correct me by saying he babysits 3 nights a week and spends hours with them I suppose....)

Losingitall Mon 02-Jul-12 18:14:02

I'd rather suck Boris Johnson's balls sad

pinkpyjamas Mon 02-Jul-12 18:23:16

Xenia, I think the 180 characters is so that the site is like a sort of Twitter Plus (you get 140 on Twitter).

Xenia Mon 02-Jul-12 18:30:12

Yes, that is what puts me off. I do tweet but follow no one and only tweet about my work area - no "Xenia emerges from her bath with photograph".

However if I have anything to say I always have loads to say about it and being limited to a few lines is no good at all.

Crumblemum Mon 02-Jul-12 19:01:55

I don't think there's much I agree with Louise M on politically, but I think she's by far one of the most interesting politicians around. Her [[ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14342674 statement]] after being questioned about taking drugs was a brilliant example of politicians being honest and talking to voters, not over analysing what the media will think.

Going is the era of politicians who try to command and control the media (god-willing) and three cheers for those who try to do something differently. I liked reading her blog (although not as much as above statement) and would like to see MN bloggers having more guests. I'm not a blogger, but have read some interesting blogs over on the network. Trouble is I always forget to go there, so something that grabs my eye is a good thing (and hopefully a good thing for other bloggers).

Crumblemum Mon 02-Jul-12 19:05:42

Here is the link I hope www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14342674

GetOrfMoiiLand Mon 02-Jul-12 19:37:34

I want to like her. Her life story is certainly amazingly interesting.

But whenever I have seen her speak in public she comes across as a ghastly female version of Jeffrey Archer.

Hitchingal Mon 02-Jul-12 20:19:35

I just object to her opening statement that people think social media is a massively male dominated arena. I work in marketing and have a real interest in digital channels, and actually the evidence suggests social media is either fairly gender neutral, or actually slightly female-biased. It does depend on the channel; LinkedIn has marginally more comment by males, whereas Pinterest is dominated by women.
So making that statement to look 'brave' and feminist is a bit ridiculous as there is no evidence that this is what people think. I believe that politics is that kind of arena, but definitely not social media!

121 Mon 02-Jul-12 20:38:12

I've got to admit I don't know anything about her personally, except for all that I can infer from her being a Tory MP but here's a good article that sprang to mind [http://m.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/29/chloe-smith-mouse-feminist-tory?cat=commentisfree&type=article]

121 Mon 02-Jul-12 20:39:27

(sorry, on phone, don't think link formatted correctly)

GeorgeEliot Mon 02-Jul-12 21:04:24

I was quite interested in reading this until I realised it was just a massive plug for her new venture.

Reinforcing my prejudice that all tory MPs are motivated purely by self-interest.

121 Tue 03-Jul-12 22:43:55
Greythorne Tue 03-Jul-12 22:56:34

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

MNHQ - you have got this one wrong.

This puff blog is ill-advised, blatantly commercial and, ahem, v. vacuous.

Please give us a bit more credit.

Louise Mensch - talking about how articulate MNers are is not quite enough to win us over. One of the worst blog posts I've seen for a good while.

Viviennemary Tue 03-Jul-12 23:03:56

What is the point of all this. Am I missing something?

JustineMumsnet (MNHQ) Wed 04-Jul-12 09:39:38

Viviennemary

What is the point of all this. Am I missing something?

The point is/was twofold - to promote the Bloggers Network (on its first birthday) and to host an interesting blog from an interesting person.

Sorry if you didn't like it.

Xenia Wed 04-Jul-12 14:25:06

Never apologise. Never explain.

Viviennemary Wed 04-Jul-12 15:27:56

I wasn't keen on it being Louise Mensch. I shouldn't have posted that. I'm sorry. It was quite late and normally I wouldn't have posted such a cross sounding negative post.

Greythorne Wed 04-Jul-12 15:31:40

Well, sadly, as "interesting" as Mensch is, her blog post was crap.

Hth.

UnimaginitiveDadThemedUsername Wed 04-Jul-12 15:32:44

I admire her stance against the media and internet trolls, but there's still something about her that I don't like.

She strikes me as the kind of person who'd eat her own children if she went without an Ocado delivery for a fortnight.

Xenia Wed 04-Jul-12 17:49:06

I'm certainly not against her, although as a feminist I'd like my questions above answered as they are at the heart of her credibility.

However I was absolutely appalled by her stance on internet trolls. We want robust strong people who have such strength they do not get at all fusssed with abuse. We wan women in the media who are prepared to put up with criticism, not fold over like some kind of weak Victorian flower. We needed Mrs Mensch to say - I do not care what people say - freedom of speech rules okay. We want women in particular to learn to be tough. Toughen up the nation. Tolerate adverse comment. Grow a skin. Rather than ah poor poor you did that nasty person line hurt your feelings; ah, nanny state will ban them.. ugh.

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