Week 1 - Summer Low Carb Bootcamp starts here!

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BIWI Mon 29-Apr-13 10:34:01

Morning all! There are over 150 of us signed up for Bootcamp, so it’s going to be busy I think. If you haven’t already put your name on the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness, here is the link so that you can add yourself:

Just add yourself to the bottom of the list and the lovely WillieWaggleDagger, our SpreadsheetMeister, will ensure that it is re-sorted to remain alphabetised. Don’t touch any of the blue columns!
We work in pounds, but if you are a metric person, there’s a tab at the bottom of the spreadsheet that says ‘conversion’ which will recalculate from metric to imperial.

It’s up to you whether you choose to enter your actual weight or to index it, i.e. you start today at 100, and for every pound you lose you drop by 1.

You will also see on the tabs on the spreadsheet the rules for Bootcamp, as well as rules for those of you who are vegetarian, and rules for Bootcamp Light, which you can move on to after two weeks of Bootcamp.

There are only 10 rules, and the thinking behind Bootcamp is that it should be as straightforward as possible to follow. If you follow the rules (yes, all of them – and especially no 7!), you will lose weight.

The idea behind Bootcamp is that we have a strict fortnight of low carbing, to break the addiction that we have to carbs and sweet things. You are making sure that you are switching your body from burning carbs to burning fat, and you will go into what is called ketosis in these first two weeks.

All that this means is that you are fat-burning.

In the first few days of low carbing, especially if you haven’t done it before, you may feel a bit rubbish – you may have headaches or just feel generally tired and achey. This is known as ‘carb flu’ – and it means that you are withdrawing from carbohydrates. Sugar (which is essentially how the body views and uses carbs) is highly addictive, and your body will be craving it. Don’t give in! After a couple of days you will feel much better.

If you are feeling odd or ill, make sure that you are getting plenty of sodium, potassium and magnesium. Add salt to your food and cook with salt. Try making a drink from Marmite/Bovril. Good foods to include in your diet are spinach, salmon and avocado. Drink plenty of water and make sure that you really are keeping your fat levels up. Take some paracetamol if you have a headache (not aspirin or ibuprofen as these drugs can impede weight loss).

BIWI Mon 29-Apr-13 10:34:28

Oh buggeration - an invisible link again!

Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

BIWI Mon 29-Apr-13 10:38:32

A couple of very important caveats:

1) I am not a doctor, a scientist, a nutritionist nor a dietician. I have, however, done a lot of reading about low carbing over the years, and I have also low carbed myself. I am currently maintaining (just about!) a 2 stone loss. All advice I give here is based on what I have read and my own understanding of how low carb works.

2) If you are on any kind of medication, especially medication for blood pressure and/or diabetes, please consult with your GP before you start low carbing. If you have any concerns generally about your health, this would also be a wise thing to do (although you should also be prepared for your GP to rubbish low carbing, given that this is the conventional view!)

LackaDAISYcal Mon 29-Apr-13 10:45:55

Morning. <Caffeine free> brew

rubybricks Mon 29-Apr-13 10:56:51

have logged start weight on the spreadsheet, am heading to tesco later to stock up, but started the day with two cuppas with milk, is it ok to take coffee black?
good morning fellow bootcampers, good luck with day 1!

dontmeanto Mon 29-Apr-13 10:57:56

Morning! Weighed myself...bluergh. Apparently I felt the need to gain 3 stone in this last pregnancy! But hey ho, its coming off starting today!

BIWI Mon 29-Apr-13 10:58:55

Coffee black is great, because you aren't having the carbs in the milk.

However, some low carb experts think that coffee can cause an insulin response, so it's not always advised. Personally I think it's up to you. If you're losing weight and still drinking the coffee, then no need to give it up.

All done smile

Need this so badly! Hoping I adjust fairly quickly...

dawnpreview Mon 29-Apr-13 11:01:23

Think I have added my weight.
I don't usually eat breakfast, but forced myself to have some scrambled eggs today. Going to dring plenty of water and try not to think of chocolate!

sammisatt Mon 29-Apr-13 11:11:29

Morning! I've been lurking on this thread for months and have been low carbing it since October. I have pretty much stuck at it and love this way of eating however there has been a bit of carb creep of late (nuts and berries mainly) and i have gained a couple of pounds and I am about ten pounds off target and I've been trying to lose this ten pounds for months but it won't shift.

I turn forty next month and really want to have lost a bit more by then so need a bit of a kick up the backside ie a couple of strict weeks.

cathyandclaire Mon 29-Apr-13 11:13:27

Morning all. smile just off to make leek and bacon mini frittatas to stick in the fridge for lunch and snack emergencies, determined to lose the extra 4lb that have found their way onto my midriff since last bootcamp!

barleywood Mon 29-Apr-13 11:15:36

And I'm in grin

Mainly for maintenance and accountability since I'm currently lighter than I have been since my teens....a very long time ago.

Not a great time to be starting with a holiday weekend coming up but in for a penny in for a few lost pounds

AngieAir Mon 29-Apr-13 11:16:48

I faced the scales this morning after a farewell Portguese custard tart yesterday. Not as bad as it could have been and I'm feeling very positive about bootcamp.

Now I have very little desire for bread, pasta, rice, crisps, pizza etc but why is it so difficult for me to resist pastry, sweet or savoury?

Any tips re managing pastry cravings? I suspect I shall spend a lot of time at the supermarket, staring forlornly at pork pies, empanadas, borek, cinnamon whirls and apple turnovers.

CrystalTits Mon 29-Apr-13 11:17:12

Looking forward to the challenge and to supporting one another. This is my first foray into LCing. <has small mental wobble at the mention of the 'c' word before noon on the first day, thanks dawnpreview wink>

toomuchtoask Mon 29-Apr-13 11:18:04

Morning. I have weighed myself and plan to have stir fry veg and chicken for lunch. Tuna and veg for tea.

Any ideas for snacks when low carbing? I don't like cheese. I guess veg sticks or cucumber sticks/celery would be good? I don't nuts (yes I've tried them all!). Grateful for ideas. Would yoghurt be ok?

toomuchtoask Mon 29-Apr-13 11:21:24

Sorry I've just read the spreadsheet properly and that clears up the snack question. Thank you for the detail. You've put a lot of effort in.

MummyAisha Mon 29-Apr-13 11:23:30


Have weighed in and started the day with a mushroom omelette. Not quite sure whats for lunch or dinner just yet though

ZimboMum Mon 29-Apr-13 11:24:11

Have added weight. Let's do this!

B: two fried eggs in butter with some mince that needed eating fried in olive oil with salt and pepper.
Looking forward to lunch already so will post that now:
L: little gem lettuce with half a spring onion, prawns, avocado and homemade vinaigrette.

mummy2evie Mon 29-Apr-13 11:25:29

Hi, I'm in. Just had a lovely early lunch of fried (in butter) courgettes, mushrooms and 3 eggs, washed down with a pint of watersmile

middleagedspread Mon 29-Apr-13 11:26:08

Im in. Just had Total full fat yoghurt with mixed berries & a sprinkling of ground roasted nuts.
It seems odd that puree celeriac is allowed, it tastes very carby.

snowballinashoebox Mon 29-Apr-13 11:30:18

I never did get the hang of spreadsheets 101. Help! and no caffeine and... and I weigh 174 how did that happen.

Half way through my first litre of water and lovely breakfast so am so determined that i am going to do this.

HappyHippyChick Mon 29-Apr-13 11:31:17

Right, added my weight to the spreadsheet. I was tempted not to put my actual weight, but think seeing myself as the fattest mnetter will help keep me on track! blush. I am not starting properly until next Monday as it's my brothers wedding and we are away for the weekend, but will try and cut down carbs as much as I can...

Yay - signing in

I really need to stick to this WOE this time - I'm off on family holiday in August & want to be slim for the first time in years! I also have a girls weekend in the sun booked for September & want to look hot - and not in a sweaty way grin

Will add my weight in a second. My scales are busted (calibration I think confused) and give a consistent reading but add quite a lot on (unless I gained 3 stones overnight shock)

Working away today & tomorrow so am hoping there is plenty of protein available for the lunches that are being provided. I may email ahead & claim special dietary requirements. Dinners should hopefully be easier from room service/hotel restaurant.

PennyHofstadter Mon 29-Apr-13 11:55:29

TMI... I've now drank 1.5ltrs of water this morning plus a couple of black coffees. I'm off for my third wee in a hour! It's lucky I don't get my loo breaks monitored!

geologygirl Mon 29-Apr-13 12:00:38

Morning all! Hope things have started off well for you all.

I've added my starting weight to the spreadie and had a mushroom omlette this morning for breakie. Not sure about lunch but Im going to nip out and get some salad stuff to go with some fish I have in the fridge.

Need to start necking some more water now wink

BobblyGussets Mon 29-Apr-13 12:05:15

Hi, I haven't signed in yet, or dared weigh myself, but I have been having a look at the spreadsheet and can't see the "Allowed foods list". I can see everything else. Any ideas please confused

BIWI Mon 29-Apr-13 12:12:48


cathyandclaire those mini frittata's sound amazing...is there a recipe?

barleywood Mon 29-Apr-13 12:18:11

Uh oh.....BIWI's using uppercase grin

LavenderBriggs Mon 29-Apr-13 12:27:21

I'm here for maintenance - I lost 10lbs in last bootcamp and want to drop another couple.

I had a major binge over the weekend (mango!, pomegranate in my celeriac cous cous!) and now I'm ready to jump back into line.

Good luck to all of the new starters thanks

Morning all. Have added myself with today's weight which is 4lbs less than I was on Wednesday!

I can't get the list of allowed foods either - it's there but no info on it.

And can I ask what ubercamp is?

Breakfast was some ham (I checked and it hasn't got sugar), some smoked salmon and cream cheese and a dollop of egg mayonnaise. Lunch will be a pile of rocket, Parma ham and mozarrella and avocado and some dressing. Is balsamic a real no-no? I love it. And am sure I used it when doing Atkins before.

Dinner will be BBQ - steak and salad.

I have noticed my appetite has decreased. Had to leave lots of last nights dinner.

I'm eating quite a lot of cheese but do I remember seeing somewhere that I shouldn't eat too much of it?

ChocolatePiglet Mon 29-Apr-13 12:31:01

I've been so excited and apprehensive about starting Bootcamp.
I've got to make this work, so fed up of diets falling by the wayside after a couple of weeks (due to my own lack of willpower, obviously!) Really looking forward to having some support from all the fellow Bootcampers!

Peppermint tea and 1.5l water drunk so far.
B Omelette with mushrooms
L Tuna mayo salad
D Think it'll be Chicken wrapped in parma ham with green veg with butter
Actually sounds quite yummy.....Can't believe this will help me lose weight!

Hello all! So pleased to be on this bootcamp as I really enjoyed the last one. Have been busy busy this morning until now so have just sat down to check in and have a coffee!

Havent been able to enter my weight yet as still need a set of scales, should hopefully have some later so will weigh tomorrow...

Having a good day so far - shred dvd, lots of walking, eggs for breakfast and prawn salad for lunch. Fish and veg for tea tonight.

Yay bootcamp! grin

middleagedspread Mon 29-Apr-13 12:46:50

Eeek, I've had my first telling off.
Berries AND nuts.
Sorry Miss, I didn't do my homework blush

DramaAndCrisis Mon 29-Apr-13 12:53:55

Afternoon all. Started this morning with yoghurt for breakfast and gallons of water. Also cutting back on the caffeine (hello headache) and looking forward to chilli in lettuce wraps for lunch. Scales already moving in the right direction after pulling bread / grains out of my diet from Saturday and moving away from the 'fuelled by caffeine and sugar' paradigm.

This time it will work! [but I miss cake. Sob].

warzonemummy Mon 29-Apr-13 12:55:14

I started low carbing two days ago so I am on day 3 (first two days had a little lapse each day - cereal he first day and tiny bits of potato in my curry the second). I see today as my real start day. I had:

B: 2 boiled eggs with salad - I know no fat sad
L: Tuna mayo with feta cheese and salad
D: is going to be grilled chicken with carrots and asparagus

I have had almost 2 liters of water and a cup of plain green tea so far. Oh and a Babybell cheese.

I am feeling quite light headed and weak. I think I am already missing carbs - visit to the supermarket did not help at all.

BTW, I want to get into a gorgeous dress for my BIL's wedding which is on the 27th June.

Tigglette Mon 29-Apr-13 12:55:47

I've entered my weight - I mean added my 100, I'm not quite ready to own up to my actual weight. So, meals for today:-
B: Greek yoghurt and a small piece of cheese
L: ham and eggs (I will avoid processed stuff but this was the best thing on the pub menu)
D: chicken in a creamy tarragon sauce with green veggies

So far been drinking endless water and ginger tea. Good luck everyone!

Spamspamspam Mon 29-Apr-13 12:56:38

I am in, lost 7 lbs on my own a few weeks ago but managed to put most of that back on after 2 weeks in America and not following anything since I got back.

Not a great breakfast as had too much processed meat but starting from now properly.

Francois Mon 29-Apr-13 13:00:25

I can't work out how to add my weight to sheet (on tablet not laptop not sure if that's why)
At 149 today, have put 9lbs on since February. =(

B - some pieces of chicken
L - mushroom and cheese omelette
D - roast chicken with spinach, cabbage and mushrooms

PiHigh Mon 29-Apr-13 13:08:18

I've added my weight to the spreadsheet. Dh is doing Bootcamp with me and bringing his sceptical grumpiness along for the ride

Breakfast was sliced courgettes fried in butter with scrambled egg on top. Lunch was skin-on chicken with salad and I had a bit of coleslaw too (I think it was ok to have that) <fears BIWI's Caps Lock> grin

I then realised I'd messed our evening meal up because I forgot to take stuff out of the freezer last night, so I've had to do a last minute switch round of meals. We're either having chicken with creamed leeks and veg or bolognese served on fried mushrooms.

LackaDAISYcal Mon 29-Apr-13 13:09:47

Failed at the first hurdle blush

Graze box came today and I'm feeling rubbish and spotty and itchy and and and...

No excuse really blushblush

Graze ceremoniously cancelled for the time being.

CrystalTits Mon 29-Apr-13 13:10:12

Meals for today:
B - ham rolled with full fat Philadelphia (3 slices)
L - homemade vegetable soup, feta and olives
D - roast chicken with buttered veg

Green tea, black coffee and 1/2 litre water so far...

CarolBornAMan Mon 29-Apr-13 13:10:34

So first 5 hours gone OK even if not lost weight yet! I am trying to think over some options for breakfast that are not all egg based and I do like greek yoghurt but usually with nuts, berries and a bit of oats! Anyone any ideas what we can put on it during bootcamp - not sure chopped aubergine going to be quite right!

BIWI - I am not quite clear on dairy - do we just avoid it for the first 2 weeks or can we have something like cottage cheese now? Am guessing hard cheese is out? THANK YOU!!

lapetitedame Mon 29-Apr-13 13:30:10

Signing in....moved position of the scales on the floor before I weighed in this am - and it weighed me 4lbs heavier than any day last week - couldn't believe it!! sad So ham and eggs for breakfast + 2 coffees & cream. Lunch was tuna mayo in lettuce leaves with slice of cheddar. 1.5 litres of water so far. Have an event in a few weeks and would like my dress not to be 'snug' BUT also have a meal in v.posh restaurant at weekend - will have to Bootcamp light for the night and get back to it next morning. Good luck everyone!

caramelwaffle Mon 29-Apr-13 13:31:47

Signing in - Good afternoon all and good luck.

MaryBeardfanclub Mon 29-Apr-13 13:35:38

whoops, haven't weighed myself for a month or so - am 2.25 lbs heavier than I thought I was. Thank goodness bootcamp starts today...counting down to bikinigate, 51 days to go [gulp]

Cut out sweetener in my tea over the weekend - drank a lot less tea. It was bearable if not enjoyable. My main aim over this bootcamp is to cut out sweetener in my tea for good. And lose a few pounds. DP has joined me hooray! but doesnt want to go on the spreadsheet.

B: 2 HB eggs mashed with butter
L: roast chicken, cauliflower cheese, buttered broccoli, roast celeriac
D: bolognaise sauce on buttered cabbage with sour cream

halfthesize Mon 29-Apr-13 13:36:42

Morning all, carol you do not need to avoid dairy as long as it is low carb. Though sometimes too much can hinder weight loss just depends on your body.
cathyandclaire those frittata's are a fab idea off to make some now smile

So I have weighed in and need to loose 9lb on bootcamp followed by a further 4 and have aprox 4 weeks to achieve. Am doing daily exercise running/ squats and other things so fingers crossed it all works.

B- scrambled eggs
L- home made burger and green leaf salad
4 pints of water down so far....

PiHigh always check carb content on brought coleslaw. It can be quite high in carbs, home made is better. smile

Tortington Mon 29-Apr-13 13:39:32

bikini gate is here this week for me <huge gulp>

muchly regretting the THREE pastries and takeaway curry with rice, naan and popudoms on Friday

Gym this am
will be going Gym again this PM

6 mini tomatos, lettuce and oodles of mayo for the fat for my dinner

<prays> please god let me lose three lbs tomorrow

Tortington Mon 29-Apr-13 13:40:57

B coffee
L toms, leaves and mayo
D will be chicken with something yet undecided

carbalanche Mon 29-Apr-13 13:45:15

Right here I go again. Starting off at 180 pounds/12st 12. Would like to lose a stone and a half which is going some. I usually am strict in the first week and don't allow myself any dairy apart from butter but I can't this time - I just can't!!

B: scrambled egg, 2 mini-babybels
L: 2 slices of ham, 2 boiled eggs and Delouis mayo
D: Pork belly slices, mushroom, fennel in creme fraiche sauce

I didn't pay much heed to the amounts of water I drank last time so might try and be more vigilant this time. I'm not looking forward to drinking 3 litres of water a day. I've already had a litre of herbal tea - does that not count? (she asks hopefully!)

Attackofthefiftyfootwoman Mon 29-Apr-13 13:47:30

B two boiled eggs
L tuna and mayo in a lettuce wrap
D chicken, tomatoes and spinach in slow cooker - smelling lush!
snacks - carrot sticks.

I am HUNGRY!! I am carb fiend so this is hard for me. I also work from home so am resisting the pull of brown toast with hoeny at the moment. But I am determined to get through the first week just to prove to myself how much I can lose when I put my mind to it.

Drinking lots of water and herbal teas.

hope I can stay on the straight and narrow. I am hoping the first few days are the worst

CarolBornAMan Mon 29-Apr-13 13:47:55

Thanks HalftheSize - hoping to steal your NN from you at the end of this!

toomuchtoask Mon 29-Apr-13 13:48:56

I am hungry too Attackofthefiftyfootwoman.

halfthesize Mon 29-Apr-13 13:52:00

Custardo tomatoes are very carby! Attack you should notbe hungry, eat something perhaps a boiled egg.

halfthesize Mon 29-Apr-13 13:54:03

carol I used to be mummyduff but changed after bootcamp this time last year grin

newlark Mon 29-Apr-13 13:57:33

I've put in my actual starting weight from Thursday as I have actually managed to stick to the rules (veggie version) for the last 4 days and want to include the 4lbs I have lost so far in my total as a motivator!

Yoghurty Mon 29-Apr-13 13:58:24


Have added my weight to the spreadsheet and am ready.

I'd said on the other thread that I've been LC-ing since January, but more bootcamp light (dark choc/nuts/ground almond baking)

I'm aiming to lose another 14lbs on this bootcamp - as I am 4lbs off 2 stone already.

I'm fortunate that coffee and dairy don't stall me but I'm going to take the hit and stop drinking my daily soya latte for the next 2 weeks to see if that gives me a nice 'boost' to restart me grin

dawnpreview Mon 29-Apr-13 14:00:36

Had tuna with some baby leaf spinach and a bit of feta for lunch. Really want something sweet right now sad
I feel a bit headachy, but not particularly hungry.

cathyandclaire Mon 29-Apr-13 14:02:13

For whoever asked about mini Frittatas...Fry leeks in olive oil, chop in bits of ham (or fry up some bacon) and mix together with grated cheddar add beaten seasoned eggs (quantities really don't matter) and pour into fairy cake/tart/muffin tray and bake in hot oven until brown and risen.
Also fab with sausage and mushroom, asparagus and parmesan etc etc...good cold for packed lunches.

Kahlua4me Mon 29-Apr-13 14:13:45

Just added my weight to the spreadsheet. I am so shocked by how much I weigh that knowing that makes me feel ill and off food that hopefully that will help with sticking to the plan!

Off to supermarket now to stock up

cathyandclaire it was me - thanks smile thanks

They sound like a nice breakfast

MsRinky Mon 29-Apr-13 14:23:09

Morning all. Just checking in. Have been off-piste for the last month or so, and have weighed in this morning. Have been duly punished for my transgressions, as have gained about 7lbs back, which I now have to lose before I feel like I've made any actual progress. Stupid. And I have to go to my in-laws at the weekend, and tomorrow is my last day in my old job and there will be fizz and cake at my send off. Damn life getting in the way of bootcamp.

However, 8 weeks tomorrow I am off to Glastonbury and it is going to be hot and sunny, so I am resolute.

timidviper Mon 29-Apr-13 14:38:44

I've added myself to the spreadsheet. if I had lost all the weight I have over the years linearly without regaining and so losing the same weight over and over again, I'd be at goal by now. As it is I still have well over 5 stone to go but I am over 2 stone lighter than when I started this way of eating so onwards and downwards as we say!

I cooked a pork joint in coconut milk in the slow cooker over the weekend. I had a bit of that with spring onion and 2 duck eggs for breakfast. Will have a prawn salad in a minute as I am not hungry but know I won't last till tea time and will have turkey escalopes, creamed leeks and asparagus for tea.

twinklestar2 Mon 29-Apr-13 14:45:05

Hey all,

Have signed up and am raring to go.

Today’s menu:

B: 2-egg omelette fried in olive oil
L: chicken, salad leaves, cucumber and anti pasti from the salad bar in Tesco: olives, mini peppers, sliced peppers – hope that’s ok?
D: some sort of meat and veg – probably more chicken!

2 questions:

Firstly, would this recipe: www.foodnetwork.com/food/cda/recipe_print/0,1946,FOOD_9936_206732_RECIPE-PRINT-FULL-PAGE-FORMATTER,00.html without the potatoes be ok on Bootcamp?
Secondly, how many carbs per 100g is an acceptable amount?

prettybird Mon 29-Apr-13 14:46:49

Signing in. I think I'm 11 stone but our scales have finally given up the ghost; after being frustrated that after 3 days of ubercamp last week and not seeing any change (hovering around 11stone/11 stone 2lb), yesterday they tried to tell me I was 9 stone shockshock. Tried again and they were then saying 9stone 10lb confused. My ultimate objective is 9stone 13lb and having lost 2 stone 2lb (I think) since I started Boot Camp on 7 January, I dont think I have finally and magically achieved my objecitve grin

So I'm off to Sainsbury's today to double up my Nectar points and buy new scales.

Anyway, the ubercamp did achieve its objective: I was able to fit in to my old Nicole Farhi dress for the rugby club ball on Saturday night smilewinesmile It was still very tight and one button in particular was gaping ever so slightly - but dh tells me I was the only person aware of it. And I was still able to eat! I've loaded a picture on to my profile smile

In fact, I managed to still stay pretty much on the WoE even at the Ball - minus the roll and the potato, thefirst two courses were pretty much LC/HF and the dessert was chocolate mouse with a berry compote. What's more I only have about 4 wine over the whole evening (2 and a half glasses of bubbly and 1 and half glasses of dry white wine) and lots and lots of water.

I allowed myself yesterday off - had a few mini eggs that ds has been nagging me to open since Easter and a couple of chocolate chip cookies and pieces of tablet that I made for the cake stall that we were running yesterday for the kids at the rugby club plus a small rice crispie cake that fell on the floor - but I'm back in the zone today smile

PennyHofstadter Mon 29-Apr-13 14:46:59

MsRinky, I too have been off piste and gained about 6-7lb back. I too have a team lunch tomorrow as one of the team is leaving (its not you is it?!) so I sympathise with life getting in the way.

EwanHoozami Mon 29-Apr-13 14:47:06

I'm in. I've maintained pretty well from the last bootcamp, only 3lb on. And they shall begone!

B: Lidl yog
L: Chicken thigh and leftover braised cabbage
D: Chicken liver salad

Now I'm bouncing around near maintenance I'm going to be more mindful of things like portion size, cutting out the milky coffees that had crept back in and keeping a watchful eye on cheese intake. Just some tweaks, really.

If you're new to this - welcome! Don't be shy to ask questions, share your recipe successes and shopping finds and to shout if you feel like you need a bit of support.

timidviper Mon 29-Apr-13 15:01:33

Can I just say, as a piece of advice to newbies from one who has done this before, that I think one of the keys to making this easy for yourself is to follow ALL the rules of bootcamp as strictly as you can for the first two weeks. I find it works much better for me if I stick to this as much as possible as it seems to give me the kick in the pants I need to move forward.

frenchfries22 Mon 29-Apr-13 15:24:39

Day one completed for me!
Breakfast omlette
Snack cucumber and Philadelphia
Lunch big salad with mayo
Dinner home made veg soup and salad
Need to try harder on the water front tomorrow
Those frittatas are on my list for tomorrow would be great as a work snack

Doshusallie Mon 29-Apr-13 15:33:53

twinkle - I think the recipe is okaaaaaaaaaaaay, but tomatoes are quite carby. We aim for below 3-4g per 100g.

Lidl yog for breakfast.
smoked sausage with lettuce, celery, mayo and two HB eggs for lunch.

1.5 litres of water so far today, 1 decaf tea and 2 decaf coffees.

<sneaks in quietly >

<sneaks out>

Doshusallie Mon 29-Apr-13 15:46:50

[crackle of radio] Red 10, Red 10, this Red 9, Justasmallgless spotted on MN, I repeat, Justasmallgless has posted on MN, over....

halfthesize Mon 29-Apr-13 15:56:55

Waves to Gless

Just having a snack of celery and soft chilli cheese, yummy...

prettybird Mon 29-Apr-13 15:57:06

Tonight's meal is not going to be terribly Boot Camp-ish blush: ds has been desperate for me to make chili and I've refused as I was still following Boot Camp rules (and even doing ubercamp) in my desperation to get in to my dress.

I ended up promising him I'd make it for him after the Ball - and I thought if I got it out the way early on, it would do less damage grin. Dh and he can get it with rice - while I will try to minimise the amount of kidney beans in my portion!

ecuse Mon 29-Apr-13 15:58:09

Hello all

Haven't logged in for a couple of weeks, but thought I'd see how everyone was doing.

Have been not-quite-bootcamp-but-reasonably-strictly doing low carb/primal type eating for about two months and have lost a stone so far without really feeling like I'm on a diet. My partner has lost about half a stone in the last month doing it (slightly more obsessively than me - he's closer to Atkins than primal). We've both visibly changed shape as well, so we look like we have lost more than we physically have. I read somewhere that traditional calorie-restricting diets make you lose muscle before fat, wheras LCing means you lose fat first but retain muscle bulk (and therefore don't necessarily get lighter as quickly). This certainly seems to be the case with us. Anyway, I've done it more for long term health reasons than to get slimmer but it turns out I am really loving being slimmer!

We're off to spain on holiday for a week this weekend, and then moving house gradually over the next fortnight, so expect there'll be a few slips off the wagon, but I feel like I genuinely could do this forever. It feels really right.

DP and I had some of our 2yos birthday cake at the weekend, and we both reallly noticed how the carbs lead to another carb craving straight after. Neither of us has ever been very 'in tune with our bodies' before, so to eat this way and actually physically notice what food is doing to us is a revalation.

Have added myself to the spreadsheet!

Shh for Gods sake you'll have the klaxons going Doshie!!

For those newbies who are wondering whether LC is the way for them I can honestly say it is the best thing that ever happened to me.
I lost 2 stone last year on first Bootcamp and have maintained since then mainly through alcohol!!
However my mental health as well as rosacea has improved dramatically and I'm back to being me again.

Keep posting daily and we WILL get you through

Ps has anyone linked to the wonderful recipe section on MN yet?

ecuse Mon 29-Apr-13 15:59:39

prettybird I am really into eating chilli on a bed of shredded iceberg lettuce. It's really fresh and crunchy and satisfying. Especially with lots of grated cheese on top smile

ecuse Mon 29-Apr-13 16:02:07

Oh yes:
B: greek yog, vanilla extract and a handful of blueberries
L: Pret chicken salad (8.1g carbs - a good choice if you're too disorganised to make lunch at home and bring it to work!)
D: moroccan spiced pork mince stuffed in courgette 'boats'

BIWI Mon 29-Apr-13 16:14:26

Afternoon all.

Here is the wonderful recipe thread

There are loads of recipes here that will hopefully inspire you. Please feel free to add to it, if there's something you love to cook or something that you discover that is low carb.

twinklestar2 even without the potatoes, I think the tomatoes in that recipe would make it too high in carbs

I'm going to set up a separate thread for questions, as there are so many to deal with. Hang on ...

BIWI Mon 29-Apr-13 16:19:06
BerylStreep Mon 29-Apr-13 16:53:55

I have ketones! I have been bootcamp / bootcamp light for the last 5 weeks. Looking forward to Bootcamp proper. smile

Laubea Mon 29-Apr-13 17:03:28

I am all signed up and looking forward to it! Been losing and regaining the same 10 1b for the last 3 years. The only fly in the ointment is that in 3 weeks I go on holiday and it's going to be a bit of a challenge to say the least.....

AuntieMaggie Mon 29-Apr-13 17:06:32

Hello ladies smile

Still in a shitty mood and today its led to me getting cross about how easy it is to eat of you don't have to watch your weight and eat carbs and how much easier it would be for me when I work away if I could just eat fast food like other colleagues do.

However picked up mussels from the supermarket for dinner - yummy!

Yogurt and berries for breakfast, cheese, pate and salad for lunch. So far so good smile

Good luck ladies smile

AuntieMaggie Mon 29-Apr-13 17:10:27

Argh can't enter my weight on the spreadsheet for some reason - can someone please enter 100 for me? TIA

Hi everyone - on a train at the moment and the spreadsheet is a PiTA on an iPhone (sorry about that) so I am just marking my place for any spreadsheet queries up thread for when I get home

cnicholls Mon 29-Apr-13 17:19:53

Good luck everyone. I started my day with a hard boiled egg and mayo. I must drink more though.

I have unsweetened soya milk in me tea, I take it this is ok as it's not very carby.

twinklestar2 Mon 29-Apr-13 17:26:50

Thanks for the answers to my questions :D

Perhaps I could have that Jamie dinner with other veg rather than the tomatoes.

twinklestar2 Mon 29-Apr-13 17:28:39

mmmm this would be nice and ok if you didnt have the spuds? www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/pork_chops_with_creamy_89768

BIWI Mon 29-Apr-13 17:33:22

Incidentally, if you don't know much about low carbing it is really worth getting your head around the thinking behind it.

As a starter, have a read of some of the stuff I wrote here

BIWI Mon 29-Apr-13 17:34:44

twinklestar2, that recipe is perfect. Why not try using celeriac instead of potato? I think that would work really well.

sybilfaulty Mon 29-Apr-13 17:48:22

Adding myself to the thread. Will add weight to spreadsheet once on pc later on. Half a atone on. Yuck! That'll teach me!

EwanHoozami Mon 29-Apr-13 18:09:53

And twinkle if you like the cream and cabbage combo you'd love the much-trumpeted braised cabbage recipe. It's in the Resources tab on the spreadsheet. Oh, it is heaven

PS upthread I said that I was cutting down on cheese confused Clearly that is crazytalk, I meant to say tomatoes. Cheese is my friend.

Phew EwanHoozami - was worried there for a minute!
Although tbh I could do with cutting down a bit.

B- Greek yoghurt
L lettuce cucumber and peppers with cheese and chive dip plus chicken tikka.
D- out for our anniversary but will have mushrooms to start and a yummy steak with green beans

There may be wine but then that's me

Laurelandhearty Mon 29-Apr-13 18:14:54

Please could someone add my starting weight, 134lbs, my technical skills have failed me. Thank you.

I have a headache from hell already, my body is aching for carbs sad

rubybricks Mon 29-Apr-13 18:31:50

justasmallgless thank you, that's just so inspiring! well done, it just makes me more determined to really try this and stick to it - thanks again, and of course to BIWI for doing this and all the other long-term LCers for being so positive - it just seems so...<whispers> wrong to be frying stuff when you want to lose weight...

off to the questions thread now with my many questions...

rubybricks Mon 29-Apr-13 18:33:09

(your post at 15:59 i mean) justasmallgless

sammisatt Mon 29-Apr-13 18:36:16

Checking in.

B: 2 black farmer sausages 1 egg fried in coconut oil
L: half an avocado, 2 hard boiled eggs, slice of ham, watercress, mayo
Snack: pâté and olives
D: 2 chicken thighs, braised cabbage

Over and out.

Ruby bricks, I'm rushing tonight but will post properly tomorrow but I meant to say I have another stone to lose but have maintained rather than lost due to continuing to drink alcohol!

Laurelandhearty, take some paracetamol and drink water

PiHigh Mon 29-Apr-13 18:47:13

Argh, I am so fecking stupid. Firstly I forgot to take stuff out of the freezer so had to change meals around (I meal planned for the shopping). Then I realised I'd forgotten to order the frozen cauli for the curried cauli soup for tomorrow and Weds lunches. So instead I've made a batch of veg soup but chucked in some frozen veg I had too and then realised it was higher in carbs than I thought. sadangry

And it's all just making me crave a huge stick of crusty bread with tons of butter blush

Yama Mon 29-Apr-13 18:53:43

I'm in. Starting point this time is 9 stone 10 and a half lbs.

B - Scrambled eggs with parma ham and goose fat.
S - Greek yoghurt with milled flaxseed
L - Salad with roast beef, mayo and ev olive oil.
D - Spicy choritzo and courgette dish with red cabbage.

PennyHofstadter Mon 29-Apr-13 19:01:04

B - 3 egg omelette with cheese cooked in butter
L - tuna mayo with green leaf salad and oily dressing
S - celery and Philly (25g)
D - turkey burgers (turkey mince, shallots, red chilli, salt, pepper, egg white) with large flat mushrooms

Have drank 2.5 ltrs of water so far, plus black coffee. Oh and I've just got in from body combat. Hopefully not a bad start to the week.

Ilisten2theradio Mon 29-Apr-13 19:12:39

Waves hello to everyone and marks place...

TreeLuLa Mon 29-Apr-13 19:18:39

Ok, day 1 completed.

I even drank my water.

Shopping about to arrive - have to try to get some packed lunchy things sorted - have a 2 day school trip coming up on Weds and Thurs. - any ideas?

Laurelandhearty Mon 29-Apr-13 19:27:44

Thanks Just, that's clearly where I've gone wrong. I drank lots of water this morning but didn't keep it up this afternoon and the headache kicked in.

Ilovemyteddy Mon 29-Apr-13 19:39:25

Signing in! I was a bit blush when I realised that I've put on 8lbs since bloody March, but I'm not surprised because I have been eating far too many carbs. Still trying to get down to the target I set myself in Jan 2012 of 147lbs, but have no one to blame but myself for not eating properly.

I have a holiday in 6 weeks so that's what I'm focussing on.

For newbies my two pieces of advice would be to get organised so that you don't find yourself having to buy something carby at lunchtime if you are away from home, and drink plenty of water because it makes a massive difference to weightloss on this WOE.

Ruprekt Mon 29-Apr-13 19:55:20

Ahhhhh, all is good again.......bootcamp and BIWI are back!

<<awaits hair stroking>>

B 3 sausages, cauli cheese, broccoli and celeriac chips

L. Ham and salad

D. Celeriac soup. (Homemade.......preenssmilesmilesmile)
Belly pork with creamy leeks
Fizzy water

justpoppy Mon 29-Apr-13 20:28:48

Not added my weight to spreadsheet yet - will do that tomorrow from work as on iPhone now. Anyway today has been ok

B 3 hard boiled eggs, two sausages chopped & mayo
L Really wasn't hungry but had a small salad w tuna
D steak & buttered veg.

Massive massive sugar cravings this evening. I find I can do the days no problem but as soon as I get home and ds is in bed I just want to graze. Holiday in 4 weeks tho so have to be strong. I've gained well over a stone since Xmas.


Started bootcamp lower than expected which is good after a good week last week.

B - none, disorganised before work, oops.
L - Prawns and avocado salad
D - left over roast lamb stir fry

Does anyone want adding to the spreadsheet? Just shout and I'll pop you on with your starting weight...

Doshusallie Mon 29-Apr-13 20:41:23

Evening all.

Tea was 3 pork belly strips and a big bowl of broccoli, cauliflower, leek and cabbage soup.

Snacks have been a pkt of pork scratchings.

NoCarbsBeforeBarbs Mon 29-Apr-13 20:43:34

Ok, feeling strangely excited (LC virgin!)

I half expected to be irritable and snappy, witha headache but I feel good!
B-nothing, was really not hungry.
L-scrambled egg made with butter,salt and pepper.
D-Home made meatballs with home made coleslaw.
S-carrot sticks and greek yoghurt/full fat cheese

2 coffees/milk/cream
2 green teas
Lots of water

GetOrfMoiLand Mon 29-Apr-13 20:50:38

I am going to join in this bootcamp - I was on one of the original bootcamp threads last year, but came off because I became I'll.

I am going on my hols in July and would like to get down to 9 stone 8 so would be an 11 pound weight loss.

I LOVE these threads because they really help with the way of life eating mentality. I do generally eat low carb, I don't eat any bread, pasta, rice, processed shit in the week and on,y have it sparingly at weekends. I used to eat a lt of pasta, now I just view it as a treat.

Anyway I want to kick start myself into bootcamp mode and pick up the tips and recipes!

NellVarnish Mon 29-Apr-13 21:01:05

Bloody buggery ten POUNDS on since the last Bootcamp. I am traumatised. But it serves me right.

Back on the wagon today ...

B: too shocked to eat after Scale Scare
L: tuna in oil with mayo, lettuce and celery
D: salmon in butter, roasted broccoli (sesame oil)
S: Lidl yoghurt (yum)

Good luck to everyone old and new, and thanks again to BIWI and Willie for starting it up all over again. thanks

HalfSpamHalfBrisket Mon 29-Apr-13 21:05:23

B: protein shake
L: Cheese stuffed mushroom with large salad
D: Salmon with asparagus and broccoli

Snack: mini cheese thing

I forgot about the 'no caffeine' rule though - off to re-read the rules. And drink some water.

GetOrfMoiLand Mon 29-Apr-13 21:08:51

And bloody hell biwi and willie you have put a shed load of work and thought into everything, thanks very much!

GetOrfMoiLand Mon 29-Apr-13 21:11:15

I can't do my sums. I am currently 10 stone 6 so need to lose 10 lbs.

This woe really works. At the beginning of 2012 I was 12 stone 3 and from low carbing on and off got down to 9 stone 13 just before Christmas just gone. I have out a few lbs on since but not a huge amount really. This woe reAlly, really works.

getorf from your acorn spreadsheet... you started it off, so thanks!

CarolBornAMan Mon 29-Apr-13 21:19:07

who ever suggested sumac on eggs - THANKS! I had this treat this morning with spinach fried in butter - very very lovely..

chicken salad for lunch

Spagless bol for dinner..

feeling quite weird - am a compulsive eater without the need to eat .. very strange..

BIWI Mon 29-Apr-13 21:21:18

NoCarbsBeforeBarbs (great name!) - you really do need to eat breakfast during Bootcamp. We are trying to make sure that you are keeping your blood sugar levels stable, and it's important that you eat regularly to achieve this.

Also, not much veg in your menu today. Whilst we're looking to keep our carbs low, you do need to make sure that you eat a little more veg/salad than you have.

hazchem Mon 29-Apr-13 21:27:57

well yesterday went well, mostly!
B Eggs
L corned beef, cheese, avocado, mayo, lettuce
S Corned beef
D Chicken in toms with olives and mushrooms
but then I accidentally ate a bar of dark chocolate and a date! My only saving grace was that it was only a 40g bar and it was 85% but still a poor effort.

JaxTellerIsAllMine Mon 29-Apr-13 21:33:54

hi, well today started off really well. I drank water, black coffee, had salad, chicken and a splosh of lemon mayo at lunch... then I had to go and stock up on stuff at Costco, and they have started selling Churros there, so I had to try one.

I have walked miles today so hoping it doesnt affect too much.

Promise to do better tomorrow. <dodges BIWIs stick>

BeattieBow Mon 29-Apr-13 21:35:12

Hello! I'm in too - was on the last one under a different name - probably am about 2/3lb heavier than I finished mainly due to easter egg consumption.

did well today.

do i just add myself to the bottom of the spreadsheet? Not sure how to insert myself in alphabetical order?

Ruprekt Mon 29-Apr-13 21:37:17

JAX!!angryangry It is DAY 1 !!!

No more churros!

Beattie, just add yourself at the bottom and it will all be sorted out like magic by Willie later!

BeattieBow Mon 29-Apr-13 21:41:09

so I added myself to the bottom. Couldn't work out how to put in my old weight - I started on the 7th Jan at 11lb heavier than I am now and lost a stone. gained 3lb since.

back on wagon now. Am adding in exercise this time as am lighter than I was but flabbier.

JaxTellerIsAllMine Mon 29-Apr-13 21:42:40

Ive never had one before blush and wanted to try them for years...

But I am ok now, it wont happen again. pinky promise. grin

WhyIRayLiotta Mon 29-Apr-13 21:43:35

hello * waves around *

Have added my weight into the spreadsheet (it really is fabulous!)
I have been low carbing for just over a month and have already lost 13 lbs.
B - Cooked ham and a baby bel.
L - leftover low carb chilli on cabbage and leeks with cheddar
D - Cheddar cheese square (I'm working late and that's all I've got!)

I've not been hungry and I am drinking water like it's running out.

BIWI Mon 29-Apr-13 21:43:39

<twitches big stick>

rubybricks Mon 29-Apr-13 22:02:43

day 1 over and no chocolate - tis a miracle!!
B: 2 x cups tea with milk, 2 eggs and 2 bacon fried in butter (i know bacon's not allowed but mumsnet was down and i forgot)
L: 1/2 tin tuna, 1/2 green pepper, some chopped cucumber, mayonnaise, good portion chopped feta
D: pan fried salmon steak, boiled then fried cauliflower with bit of cream poured over and sprinkled with parmesan <clueless>
also had coffee black and coffee with cream
and about 3 litres water, still and sparkling

wasn't at all hungry in between, but not sure if i'm doing this right and can't quite believe i will lose weight eating like this - what if my portions are too massive? need to study recipe thread, goodnight all!

savoirfaire Mon 29-Apr-13 22:16:12

Evening all <waves>

I just know I'm not going to be able to keep up with the thread this time round - so apologies in advance for what will look like a post and run. I will try and keep an eye on things when I can.

Day 1 ok here. Quite stressful for various reasons but food wise ok.
B: 1.5 eggs
L: spinach and celeriac soup
D: meatballs (processed - I know) and courgettes in a tomato sauce.

Off to go and drink my final half litre of water (and be up peeing all night!).

savoirfaire Mon 29-Apr-13 22:16:34

oh. And I had quite a bit of goats cheese as a snack blush

BIWI Mon 29-Apr-13 22:18:18

ruby - bacon is allowed, just don't have it at every meal/every day!

Twit Mon 29-Apr-13 22:57:39

Hi all, as you know I'm not going to weigh myself this time, just measure my tum and count the days til I feel better in myself.
Feel oddly depressed which is making me feel like chomping on the bad stuff.
Today I had;
Scrambled eggs with butter
Mixed seafood and mayonnaise with stir fried spring greens in butter
Chicken with spinach cooked with butter (again lol )
As snacks (I need snacks, it's just how I am) I melted cheese in the microwave which was surprisingly nice confused
And a lot of water.

If anyone's got any snack ideas they would be gratefully received. I have some hard boiled eggs, and I might find the black farmer sausages and cook them up to have cold. Bear in mind I live in the arse end of nowhere and am lacking in cooking skills as well as cash.

WandOfElderNeverProsper Mon 29-Apr-13 23:23:10

I can't do the spreadsheet on my phone! But start weight 147 <hangs head in shame>

So today I had a latte and cinnamon roll, then sandwiches for lunch, and fish supper/ice cream for tea.

Kidding! <hides from BIWI>

Eggs/ butter for breakfast
spicy curried courgette spinach and peppers and 2 chicken drumsticks for lunch
More eggs with homemade spinach pesto for tea. Salad too.

I eat a LOT of eggs/tuna, compared to any other protein source, mainly due to my budget!

Valdeeves Mon 29-Apr-13 23:27:52

Signing in as well - got a holiday after Bootcamp and a mum tum that needs shifting!
Breakfast; feta/ butter scrambled eggs.
Lunch: asparagus soup
Tea: Chicken roasted in spices, Parmesan swede chips (whichever angel posted them - they are frickin amazing!!)

Drank 2 1/2 litres of water today. Got to go to sleep - my eyes are crossing as the baby still isn't sleeping through.
Good luck with the low carbing tomorrow - step away from the biscuits!!!

Lavenderhoney Tue 30-Apr-13 05:05:38

Eeek- just went to the laptop to put in my weight and the thing is all dark and won't fire up!


B - eggs and bacon
L- stir fried lamb in butter with peas ( leftovers)
D- pan fried salmon, green beans, broccoli

2 litres of water.

Dh-I will add his weight when laptop working - but he had 3 litre of water, and followed the lc, and has already reported a headache, and a bit of an upset tummy.

I don't think he has had an expresso without sugar for YEARS so its a big thing for himsmile

changeforthebetter Tue 30-Apr-13 05:59:53

Day one fine. Not at all hungry. My bloody period started which did not help my energy levels. By last night I was exhausted though. I think I need to up my water and salt. I am a bit worried about the fatigue. I'm a teacher so exhaustion isn't really a great idea. Will try eggs for breakfast. I had yoghurt yesterday (full fat, promise smile)

robino Tue 30-Apr-13 06:30:13

A great big failure yeterday inspired by attending the pub quiz- there's only one a month here. So starting today having made the discovery that DH has thrown out my homenade soup... Will add 172 to the soreadsheet soon

WestleyAndButtockUp Tue 30-Apr-13 06:36:17

Day 1 yesterday was fine, but woke up achey this morning.

B - Almonds (didn't know it was verboten)
L - Essentially a chicken Caesar salad, with roquefort
D - scrambled eggs w chive and cheese, lettuce w creamy dressing

RaspberrySchnapps Tue 30-Apr-13 07:18:56

checking in. no raspberrys or schnapps till all the jiggly stuff is gone.

halfthesize Tue 30-Apr-13 07:21:06

brew good morning all, I had roast belly of pork smothered in chilli cheese sauce and served with buttery mashed Swede was yummy.
I have decided to not weigh daily this time. Hope everyone had a good first day, remember preparation is key and hard boiled eggs in the fridge are a god send for first few days wink

thekitchenfairy Tue 30-Apr-13 07:25:07

Hello everyone...

Not sure I've had any luck on the SS but will sneak back in my lunch hour!

Can't believe I haven't put on since last BC... Truly think this is a way of life for me now and I am looking forward to another downward journey!

Welco,me all newbies, looking forward to many fab recipe ideas, stories of inspiration and Big Changes...<ponders what the braised cabbage of summer BC will be... May I suggest a delicious celeriac remoulade>

Hellooo there BlackAffronted... Have you seen the OFM food photographer awards open to amateur foodies. I saw it and thought of you grin

Ruprekt Tue 30-Apr-13 07:47:26

With parmesan swede chips, Val, do you just sprinkle over parmesan before roasting?smilesmile

EwanHoozami Tue 30-Apr-13 07:56:10

thekitchenfairy I'm looking forward to getting busy with salad recipes now the sun is poking out of the clouds. Roast broccoli, rocket and goats cheese salad is on this week's plan, with loads of lovely olive oil. Mmmmm.

Can I chime in with a couple of supplement recommendations? Absolutely not prescriptive but these helped me, especially in the first couple of weeks.

Chromium can improve the way that your body uses insulin thus leveling blood sugar levels. This can help with sugar cravings. Good multivits have some in anyway.

A good vitamin B supplement will help metabolism, energy levels and cell renewal so great for skin and hair etc.

Doshusallie Tue 30-Apr-13 08:05:17

wtf is a churro? confused

like a mexican doughnut dosh

RaspberrySchnapps Tue 30-Apr-13 08:19:18

Hi All. I have added my name to the spreadsheet and just had scrambled egg with a bit of Parma ham on the top and black decaf tea. quite nervous about doing this but have to lose the weight.

sybilfaulty Tue 30-Apr-13 08:22:59

Don't be nervous raspberry. There is a whole world if fab food out there for us and you soon come to realise that the bread etc isn't worth having. It's the butter which is tasty! I used to eat tonnes of pasta and do t miss it at all.

The smaller jeans and flatter tummy also help.

BIWI Tue 30-Apr-13 08:30:01

1/2 pound down for me already so 9 stone 7.

I'm a daily weigher as it keeps me on track.

On a long train journey and just about to tuck into a massive fry up for breakfast. I shall forego the rosti however.

ZimboMum Tue 30-Apr-13 08:31:15

Morning all. Yesterday was fine but have woken up with a headache so have taken some paracetamol with a pint of water just to try stave it off.

Yesterday's tea was yummy: tandoori style chicken with salad and loads of vinaigrette. Had to put up with DH moaning that he was hungry all evening whilst fighting off chocolate cravings but I did it! Have also done nearly 48hours cold turkey from coke zero which I used to drink far too much of. that's probably what the headache is all about.

B today: 2 egg omelette with bacon cheese and herbs in butter. With water.

Tigglette Tue 30-Apr-13 08:35:14

Good morning everyone, the sun's shining here - the thought of getting my post winter legs out is enough to make me weep, more incentive to keep to the rules I suppose.

The plan for today is
B: Greek yoghurt and some ginger tea
L: chicken in a creamy peppercorn sauce and salad
D: home made chilli scooped into little gem "wraps" with cheese and sour cream

I've got some celery sticks for munching on. Just realised how dairy heavy my meals are today - will need to keep an eye on it...

snowballinashoebox Tue 30-Apr-13 08:37:47

Morning everyonesmile
Just had a lovely breakfast scrambled eggs with baby spinach and chives.
I have never lc before and do feel a bit headachey etc but I think it's the coffee withdrawal. I can't believe I can feel this upbeat without it actually.

PennyHofstadter Tue 30-Apr-13 08:47:32

Morning all. I think my scales my have been wrong as I weighed in at 179.25 yesterday and 175.5 this morning. Now I know this WOE is good but I'm not sure you can drop 3.75lb in one day!

B - 2 hard boiled eggs, avocado
L - out for a team lunch at... Frankie and Benny's. Will probably have a bunless burger with a salad instead of chips
D - Pan fried salmon and salad or veg
S - I've got some cucumber and celery sticks and soft cheese

RaspberrySchnapps Tue 30-Apr-13 08:52:09

thanks SybilFaulty smile

I've got so much weight to lose it is an intimidating goal. How did I let myself get so hefty?

milliemoomay Tue 30-Apr-13 08:56:53

Signed in a day late as I was indisposed yesterday - a post-pub 'flu hangovery thing. So starting in earnest today.

Love some of the food ideas - I'm a rubbish cook so hopefully this will improve my cooking skills too <fingers crossed> Any recommendations for a low-carb recipe book or website?

Onwards and upwards ...or downwards with the weight loss. I'm excited...

changeforgood another teacher here. I find this woe so much better for me with work. I don't get the dips and tiredness during the day. You have to eat plenty of fat, have lots of snacks in the early days and plenty of water.

Anyone feeling tired is possibly due to not eating enough, not enough fat or not enough water or salt/electrolytes. Seriously add salt and butter to everything! Sea salt crystal butter is the best and you can eat it straight

millie this WOE has seriously improved my cooking skills, especially as i find i make more of an effort with the vegetables, and often create proper side dishes rather than just dump boiled veg on the plate (though steamed/boiled green veg with butter is still heavenly)

the bootcamp recipe thread has lots of fab ideas and links

i like the low carb gourmet book by karen barnaby, and the india knight and neris thomas idiot-proof diet cookbook is another good one (the cookbook that accompanies the diet book) - the IPD one is especially good because it has UK measurements and ingredients. there are quite a few low carb recipes and sites on the internet but i find it annoying having to navigate US measurements and products

this creamy braised cabbage is especially popular on here

Doshusallie Tue 30-Apr-13 09:14:09

ZimboMum - check the carb content of your vinegaraitte. (sp) some are really sugary.

B - Lidl yoghurt.
L - will be homemade vegetable soup
Tea - will be tescos ready meal (lazy) - chicken breasts wrapped in cheese and bacon, very low carb, will have with courgettes.

Weighed in on target this morning (9 2) so very pleased with that - although am going to use Bootcamp to try and lose 2 pounds by 11th as have a VERY unforgiving dress to wear that night.

LackaDAISYcal Tue 30-Apr-13 09:23:34

Morning! Still feeling crap and itchy; think it's an allergy to something, but what, I just don't know confused

Buuut, in a better frame of mind this morning. Bacon and eggs and a few cherry tomatoes for breakfast; yum yum smile

toomuchtoask Tue 30-Apr-13 09:24:22

I have a weird day workwise with meetings from 12 till 6. I have decided to have brunch instead of breakfast as I won't get time for lunch.

Brunch - bacon omelate and veg.
Tea - Stir fry veg and chicken.

I must buy some yoghurts. Am I allowed fruit flavoured yogs as long as they are full fat?

EwanHoozami Tue 30-Apr-13 09:26:34

B - Lidl yog
L - Spinach omelette
D - Five spice marinaded salmon with pak choi and cauliflower 'rice'

Attackofthefiftyfootwoman Tue 30-Apr-13 09:43:37

ok ...... smile deep breath.... i think i am going to find this harder than I thought at first.
I did not realise how addicted to sugar I am hmm by about 4pm yesterday I was craving something sugary.
Does anyone know how long the sugar craving lasts?
I drank 2 litres of water though and some herbal teas.

b 2 boiled eggs
l chicken breast and spinach (left over from last night)
d salmon courgette salad

PiHigh Tue 30-Apr-13 09:46:53

Can I ask what teas we can drink? Are fruit flavoured teas ok or not? What about things like peppermint?

What do people do about eating out? We have a free train travel weekend coming up. We've planned a packed lunch for one day but the others we'll probably have to eat out for lunch. Do you usually stick to salads?

PiHigh Tue 30-Apr-13 09:48:53

Attackofthefiftyfootwoman I think I must be odd because I never miss the real sugary treat stuff. I did WW last year and never missed chocolate or cakes or anything. I always miss the bread. Like you I was craving bread all evening yesterday but I'm not bothered about it today. I think I tend to find by Day 3 or 4 the cravings have all stopped (that's what I found with WW anyway)

justpoppy Tue 30-Apr-13 09:51:59

Morning all. Have added weight to the spreadsheet 168lbs. shock and blush as this is the absolute heaviest I've ever been (other than when I was pg but that doesn't count). At least a stone of this has gone on since the end of January - I had a medical then and was weighed by the doc so I know its since then.

Just had breakfast, 3 hard boiled eggs, two sausages and mayo - then read spreadsheet and realised that sausages are no go (I had them yesterday too). Will be checking the recipe thread for these fritata thingys and other ideas of big, filling breakfasts I can make the night before and bring to work with me.

Also, which Lidl yogurt is it that we can eat? Is it the full fat one that comes in the big blue bucket? Hope so as its yum!

cathyandclaire Tue 30-Apr-13 10:08:55

Hi Justpoppy I think lower carb sausages (Black Farmer or Debbie and someone Harrogate sausages) are OK, although they are processed so not every day.
0.2lb down for me (although that could be because I trimmed my fringe this morning grin) but very indigestion-y so just managed FF total greek yoghurt for breakfast. Chicken mayo salad planned for lunch and meatballs on creamy leeks cut spaghetti style for tea (kids and DH will have proper spaghetti meatballs)
It all seems so much easier with the sun out!

justpoppy Tue 30-Apr-13 10:16:10

Thanks Cathy. Just googled and it looks like Debbie & Andrews sausages. Will have to keep an eye out for those and the Black Farmer ones next time I'm in Sainsbos. I ususally shop at Lidls so no funky brands there!

WandOfElderNeverProsper Tue 30-Apr-13 10:49:48

FINALLY! Weighed in this morning and about 3lb down! Really pleased smile

lapetitedame Tue 30-Apr-13 11:02:38

PennyHoftstader ...try those fritatas for snacks - a muffin tray full kept in the fridge are great for breakfast, lunches or a go to snack....and simple to cook.

Biwi think I will weigh in daily too - after yesterday's shock weigh in where I seemed to be up by 5lbs from last week - this morning those 5lbs were gone again! A daily monitor with a downward trend will suit me .... of to change spread sheet weight.

B - 2 eggs and butter, coffee & cream
L - Mushroom soup, 1/2 avocado with ham & mayo
D - Pork chop with celeriac chips and green beans
S - couple fritatas

lapetitedame Tue 30-Apr-13 11:04:08

Oops - it might have been Twit who was looking for snacks - and PennyHoftstader who had the dodgy scales like me - sorry

Twit Tue 30-Apr-13 11:10:07

Morning all, ope you're all doing well. Went to our local supermarket and they don't even have Boursin or any other full fat soft cheese anymore so arrggghhh! I wish I'd bought a cabbage and some cream to do the roast cabbage thing mentioned with a couple of the sausages. I don't eat much sausage or bacon but I remember from last time I felt I needed a full English type breakfast or I would drop. A I said, I am a snacker rather than big meals type of person as big meals make my tummy feel uncomfortable.
Startling to feel like I'm sloshing around a bit now grin

WhyIRayLiotta Tue 30-Apr-13 12:29:30

I have put one lb on! Grrrr I think it's a throwover from the weekend... I did go a bit mad as I knew I was going to be strict this week.

I am going to the gym on my lunchbreak and that lb will be gone by tomorrow!

Doshusallie Tue 30-Apr-13 12:41:44

can't remember who asked the questions but:

no to full fat fruit yoghurt - plain or natural or greek only
yes it's the big blue full fat greek yoghurt in Lidl, yummy
picnics/eating out - I take a lunch box to work full of smoked sausage/tuna/ham, lettuce, cucumber, celery/mushrooms and mayo with two HB eggs. I put a layer of salad in then the mayo then anoher layer of salad so the mayp doesn't stick to the lid!

Doshusallie Tue 30-Apr-13 12:42:32


LackaDAISYcal Tue 30-Apr-13 12:45:03

justpoppy, the nuremberg sausages from lidl (little ones in a vac pack) are gluten free and lower carb than your usual rusk padded sausage. They are also bloody delicious.

Watch out though as they have normal and low fat ones in the same box, so make sure you avoid the low fat ones.

Yum yum yum. I just had lamb chops, pan fried in butter with some curry spices and a generous handful of spinach thrown in to wilt towards the end. I'd forgotten how good this WOE actually is.

Feeling really headachy and woozy though; not sure of it's carb withdrawals or this blasted rash. I think I might need to go back to the docs.

ToomuchIsBackOnBootcamp Tue 30-Apr-13 12:45:41

Hello everyone!! Do you like the name change this time round, not very imaginative but I'm working on the power of positive association!

Waving madly to all old chums from the Oct bootcamp and hello to all you lovely brave newbies! I would agree with the advice posted already for you:
Stick to bootcamp rules. Really stick. No "little slips" or you won't break the sugar cycle and it will all take much longer to work.
Be organised, plan ahead, have snacks to hand at home and to take with you out and about. It's hard to find LC snacks on the go so best to take your own!
Drink the water. Yep, you will pee like an incontinent carthorse for the first week (if you are anything like me, and were very dehydrated without realising it, anyway) but after a while your body learns that the water keeps coming and the toxins are flushing out and so voila fab skin, hair, shiny eyes, flat tummies.

This WOE really changed my life, for the better. Not just the 20lb weight loss but more energy, less mood swings, reduced PMT etc. hope you all stick with it!

Doshusallie Tue 30-Apr-13 12:49:10

eating out in restaurants is amazingly easy on this WOE. most (all?) eateries will be perfectly happy for you to swap potatoes in a meal for another available veg. and cheese board for pudding!

AuntieMaggie Tue 30-Apr-13 12:59:23

Aldi sausaged in the black packet and bratwurst are low carb.

berryfreeze Tue 30-Apr-13 13:08:41

hi have just signed in, hopefully will lose 20lb before the summer, sclaes i have are not brilliant , but will be happy if i am hoovering around the 9 and half on them

Collywibbles Tue 30-Apr-13 13:31:55

Added myself to the spreadsheet.

M&S & Sainsburys both do 97% pork sausages which are low carb. They always seem to be on some sort of special offer as well ....

Artyjools Tue 30-Apr-13 13:37:03

I've added myself to the spreadsheet. Can't bear the thought of being this big on the beach!!!

ZimboMum Tue 30-Apr-13 13:37:44

Thanks dosh the vinaigrette was homemade so just olive oil, White wine vinegar, lemon juice and Dijon mustard.

Lunch: lamb chops with salad leaves, mozzarella and avocado. And water.

Whoever said that we might feel like incontinent cart horses for a week or so sure wasn't wrong!

halfthesize Tue 30-Apr-13 13:42:54

Hi All Attack the suger cravings etc get much better as time goes on and by 2 weeks have gone as long as you dont cheat....

Had a lovely breakfast of bacon and egg fried in butter.
Lunch was homemade broccoli and stilton soup. Need to sort something for dinner. Lots of water drank, run completed and squats to do. smile

Attackofthefiftyfootwoman Tue 30-Apr-13 13:53:01

trying the cauliflower rice tonight as an experiment ... quite excited about that grin

day 2 sugar cravings don't seem as bad today I am being very strict so hopefully they will go soon x

regarding cravings, one thought process that has helped quite a few people including me, is when presented with that irresistible chocolate brownie (or whatever) ask yourself:

do I know what this tastes like?
is it my first and last opportunity EVER to try this

in 99.99999999% of cases the answer to the first will be 'yes' and the second will be 'no'. you will almost certainly have tried a <chocolate brownie or whatever> before, and i seriously doubt that there is an imminent chocolate brownie shortage in your part of the world. there will be plenty of other opportunities to eat this another time in your life, so you don't need to have it NOW.

Hi all.

I actually started last Wednesday and as of this morning have lost 5 lbs. Very pleased.

Still finding it fairly easy although I did get a bit constipated (sorry if tmi but it is a risk with this WOE!). I think I'm not drinking enough water so that's my challenge over next few days.

Wand - that's brilliant! I bet you feel much more encouraged.

B - smoked salmon and cream cheese roulades from sainsbos and egg mayo also sainsbos. Both under 0.5 sugars per 100g so I hope they are ok.
L - salad leaves, Parma ham, cherry toms, avocado, mozzarella and oil and balsamic. I know balsamic is not allowed but that particular salad needs it! I won't have any tomorrow! I also know I lost weight doing Atkins before and using balsamic.
D - steak with asparagus and hollandaise sauce and some other veg I think.

Also walked for about an hour today. And DH is planning on me gardening later.

GetOrfMoiLand Tue 30-Apr-13 14:05:55

I think eating out is really easy on this woe.

Starters,a pâté eaten with salad, or smoked salmon.

Main, salad nicotine,steak with mushrooms, burger without the bun, fish with salad or steamed veg

Never have a pudding anyway, but you could substitute some cheese.

I haven't eaten at all today (sometimes get like that at work) so will have something when I get in later. Thinking pork chops and cauliflower cheese (I make that with a spoonful of full fat Philadelphia, and then loads of grated cheddar on top)

I weighed myself this morning, 10 stone 5 so a pound off already (I am also a daily weighter, it does fluctuate but I think it gives a clearer picture of weight loss)

GetOrfMoiLand Tue 30-Apr-13 14:07:03

Salad nicotine! Lovely. I meant salad nicoise

twinklestar2 Tue 30-Apr-13 14:20:47

My menu today:

Scrambled eggs
Beef noodle soup from wagamama without the noodles
Fajita-style Chicken, home made guacamole, salad.

BIWI Tue 30-Apr-13 14:25:47

Wand Fantastic! flowers

frenchfries22 Tue 30-Apr-13 14:39:09

Whoever it was with the mini frittata idea thank you they are amazing turned out like Yorkshire puddings!!
B omlette
L salad
S celery cucumber with soft cheese
D veg soup salad and frittata
I resisted birthday cake!

WandOfElderNeverProsper Tue 30-Apr-13 14:55:54

Tah cider and biwi grin

Bad news is I have somewhat of a tummy bug today, trying to eat through it but everything makes me feel boaky. forced down some pan fried chicken n veg with plenty of oil and salt to keep me going. Restricting water to only a couple of litres in sips as chugging is setting it all off. All I want is a piece of toast and a drink of milk sad

BIWI Tue 30-Apr-13 15:00:55

Oh no - sorry to hear that sad

captainmummy Tue 30-Apr-13 15:04:03

Those of you with sugar cravings - there has been a lot of press recently about sugar 'addiction' - and it is a real thing! Lots of journos are waking up to the fact that we 'cannot' do without sugar in one form or another, it is in ready meals, sauces, tins, added to almost everything you buy ready made, including bread. This is why you must crack the addiction first - by doing Bootcamp. Strictly.

This is why this WOE is so good for you - not only do you eat proper, homemade food but you know exactly what goes into it.

And fat doesn't make you fat. Sugar does.

justpoppy Tue 30-Apr-13 15:35:18

Thanks LackaDAISYcal I've added the nuremberg sausages to my Lidl list.

Bit disheartened as I weighed myself at lunch time at the gym and somehow I've gained over a lb since the same time yesterday. I'm hoping its all the water I've been drinking this morning.

PennyHofstadter Tue 30-Apr-13 15:37:33

Well I survived the lunch time meal out to F&B's by having a cheese burger without the bun/tomato/onion and having a plain salad. The next challenge is avoiding the two boxes of Krispy Kreme donuts that are sat on the table facing me!

GetOrfMoiLand Tue 30-Apr-13 15:39:24

Nuremberg sausages are wonderful.

LIdl also used to do a premium mayonnaise which was as good as that delouis fils stuff they sell but at a quarter of the price. But they seem to have stopped selling it now, damn them.

justpoppy if you've eaten/drunk anything before weighing (since waking up) then the scales will reflect that - a litre of water weighs 1kg / 2.2lb

i weigh nekkid first thing after a wee. i am daft though and won't even put deodorant on beforehand and take off my ring (as if it makes any difference!)

justpoppy Tue 30-Apr-13 15:58:08

Every ounce counts tho Willie! grin

BIWI Tue 30-Apr-13 15:58:52

Justpoppy - only weigh yourself first thing in the morning, naked and (ideally) after you have been to the loo! Otherwise all you are doing is weighing the food and drink that you have consumed

sybilfaulty Tue 30-Apr-13 16:06:29

Am loving salad nicotine! Genius!

NigellasGuest Tue 30-Apr-13 16:12:06

well here I am, as well!
Yesterday was easy because I happened to feel a bit off colour anyway, and slept all afternoon which is when I'm normally feeling a bit snack-ish. And didn't feel like drinking any wine in the evening either.

Today I've had 2 eggs scrambled with cream and diced courgette, with a dollop of Philly. Nothing else - just don't feel hungry!

justpoppy Tue 30-Apr-13 16:22:53

Thanks BIWI. I've been weighing myself at the gym because my scales at home are a bit rubbish. Time to invest in some new scales I think.

GetOrfMoiLand Tue 30-Apr-13 16:29:56

Yes, I have to weigh in the morning after a wee. I won't do it after the shower as I worry the wet hair would add unwAnted ounces <mad>

OliviaMMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 30-Apr-13 16:34:19

Oh geez are you shouting again BIWI?

BIWI Tue 30-Apr-13 16:36:22

Given half the chance, Oliviagrin

EwanHoozami Tue 30-Apr-13 17:01:11

grin GetOrf I once found myself wondering how much to subtract for a mooncup

ecuse Tue 30-Apr-13 17:09:30

Ocado Pork & Herb chipolatas are very low carb - less than 1g in 2 sausages. Watch out you get the right ones, though, as ocado sausages do vary quite widely!

B - scrambled egg, avocado and 2x sausages
L - couple of squares of cheese and some brazil nuts
D - ROast chicken breasts (with the skin on and some butter tucked underneath it!), courgettes cooked in butter and garlic and cauliflower mash

AuntieMaggie Tue 30-Apr-13 17:20:17

ecuse are you doing bootcamp? If so no nuts!!!

Struggling to drink my water allowance today though I only had tea and a glass of water and no cake/brownie in the cage this morning.

I am craving harvester blue cheese sauce though!

AuntieMaggie Tue 30-Apr-13 17:32:14

Zimbo i don't think lemon juice is allowed...

GetOrf - I did the same! Wet hair must weigh more surely!

EwanHoozami - full or empty? grin

AuntieMaggie Tue 30-Apr-13 17:35:55

*cafe... they don't really put me in a cage at work grin

Tip for newbies - really stick to the rules and you'll find the sweet cravings go and will have more energy.

Also Morrison sells packs of crackling for snacks.

ecuse Tue 30-Apr-13 17:40:06

AuntMaggie <ahem> oops. Quite right. I am sort of bootcamp-lite grin

WandOfElderNeverProsper Tue 30-Apr-13 17:51:01

I know BIWI I need sympathy.

But OTOH, if I haven't lost at least another pound after the day I've had, I'm demanding a refund!

Goal Tue 30-Apr-13 18:04:06

Hello. Having lost a couple of stone last year on this WOE and found bootcamp v supportive(have nchanged since then) I would love to join you all. Still a couple of stone overweight in reality and want to drop those pronto as DH and I are poss thinking about TTC and want to be in shape for that ( not the TTC! The pregnancy). Hope you will let me join you as a latecomer. Will weigh tomorrow am and add to spreadsheet

HeirToTheIronThrone Tue 30-Apr-13 18:32:54

I'm back! A fabulous break in France with TOO MUCH to eat - bread, frites, chocolate pudding, far breton, crisps, you name it... So bootcamp has returned at a good time! I'm still 9lbs down from the first one, so not too bad - would like to hit 11st 7 this time round.

Today has been good - no breakfast, then a big salad at lunch (in the pub) with chicken and avocado. Pork scratchings and fizzy water at the cinema this afternoon, and dinner will be pan fried pork chops with braised red cabbage and broccoli. Plus a gym session and a swim.

Well done everyone so far!

AuntieMaggie- glad you clarified was worried then!

All good so far today
B hard boiled eggs and mayo
L tuna mayo and salad
D bolognaise and courgette pasta with Parmesan

What's not to love on this woe?

Eating out really easy in most restaurants
We went out for our anniversary last night. I had meatballs as a starter and rib eye steak with mushrooms and green beans for main. Was stuffed

Twit - I note you saying you are more of a snacker but as your body changes into fat burning you will go longer in between meals. I had boiled eggs at 6.20 and didn't eat lunch until 2-15 and wasn't hungry in between at all.

That's normal for me now. I used to pick ALL day before this WOE. around an hour after a meal I would have fruit /snack and continue all day

BIWI Tue 30-Apr-13 19:14:46

Carb counts for lemon/lime juice:

100ml lime juice 8.77g
100ml lemon juice 8.9g carbs

However, if you're using a tablespoon of juice, that's only 15ml, which would make it just over 1g carb.

Yama Tue 30-Apr-13 19:29:32

Well, well, well - I''m down 1.5lbs. However, I reckon yesterday's starting point was inflated because of a carby weekend.

I even had some mixed nuts last night. Don't worry, I've had a word with myself.


B - Scrambled eggs with parma had and chicken fat
S - Greek yoghurt with milled flaxseed
L - Roast beef and param ham salad
D - Lamb chops and choritse/brocolli stew

WandOfElderNeverProsper Tue 30-Apr-13 20:03:17

I'm not sure what to do today tbh, my body is <book> at the mere thought of meat or veg or cheese or fat. But its finally getting an appetite for some cereal or something. Should I give in due to illness or take the day off tomorrow hoping I'll be able to eat/get some strength up? I can't even change DDs nappy without getting dizzy, but I don't want to fuck everything up!

WandOfElderNeverProsper Tue 30-Apr-13 20:08:20

Ooh I do have some "plain" soy yogurt in, added sugar but only 2.1g carbs per 100g - would that be OK? I feel I could manage that x

Can you not manage a scrambled egg?
Tbh if you are ill with a bug and its defo not carb flu we are only on day 2 so I would eat what you can manage.

There have been people who had similar symptoms though as their body purged of carbs

I would go for the yogurt if you can stomach that

Valdeeves Tue 30-Apr-13 20:14:24

Usually I don't feel like this but I'm starving - haven't eaten enough today:

Breakfast : cheesy scrambled eggs
Lunch: asparagus soup with butter
Dinner: hopefully homemade cheeseburgers - obviously no bun.

The kids won't go to bed so its going to be a late meal - I think the rumbling of my tummy is keeping them awake. For newcomers - you should never feel hungry on this diet - if you are you are usually not eating enough fat - that's me today!

WandOfElderNeverProsper Tue 30-Apr-13 20:15:25

just no, its a d+v bug sad I've been on low carb nearly 3 weeks now I think n this is nothing like carb-flu unfortunately. Had to leave work early, which I never do, as the stomach pains were making me cry n I was stuck in the loo (on paid time which they weren't impressed with) for ages sad

geologygirl Tue 30-Apr-13 20:15:31

Hi all! Nice to see everyone doing so well

I felt a bit headachey earlier so had an extra coffee. Feeling good and no cravings so far ..today I had --

B - scrambled egg and spinach
L- Avocado salad
D- beef casserole and veg. All homemade and no flour to thicken etc
S - some bits of chicken breast

2 coffees and loads of water

halfthesize Tue 30-Apr-13 20:19:00

Hope you feel better soon wand

I have just had lovely dinner of chicken and mushrooms cooked in chilli garlic and cayenne and finished off with double cream, served with green beans it was yummysmile

timidviper Tue 30-Apr-13 20:27:02

I've had such a busy day at work. I wish people would stop being ill quite so often and give me and the NHS a break! I haven't managed my full amount of water as I've barely had time to breathe but that is because I am larger and should drink more than most, I've had a couple of litres.

So I had an omelette with the last of the pulled pork for breakfast, homemade courgette soup with avocado and prawns in mayo for lunch then a chicken and vegetable curry with cauliflower rice for tea.

GetOrfMoiLand Tue 30-Apr-13 20:29:10

Christ at the lime and lemon carb count, I use an awful lot of it and just assumed it was negligible.

Hi everyone.

L - prawn and avocado salad
D - - home made cheeseburgers with salad
Greek yog and vanilla powder.

WandOfElderNeverProsper Tue 30-Apr-13 20:36:06

Thank you halfthesize

getorf I know, right? And I think I read somewhere garlic is 1g carb per clove, I can easily do a whole bulb in a sitting! Sneaky carb buggers!

AngieAir Tue 30-Apr-13 20:39:31

Today's food

B: egg & bacon fried in lard, coffee & cream
L: mozzarella with salad leaves & 1 teensy tiny tomato, posh olive oil & red wine vinegar
D: duck breast with skin on, cauliflower cheese
Random snack: some mince

Lots of water.

But my friends keep texting me about cake!

CrystalTits Tue 30-Apr-13 20:44:57

Busy day at work here too today but I've managed to stuff down:

B: small cube feta, 5 feta stuffed olives, spoonful FF Total greek yog
L: poached salmon and avocado with salad leaves and mayo
D: bolognese mince in lettuce boats with grated cheese

3 coffees (1 with cream), 2 litres water

Been LCing since Thurs and today my skin looks less dry, puffy and pale or it may just be extra makeup

Wand- oh no hope you feel better soon.
I might steer clear of dairy if its a d and v bug. Maybe just something you can keep down. Once you have been low carbing a while it doesn't take as long to get back in ketosis

newlark Tue 30-Apr-13 21:03:49

Waitrose have some useful low carb snacks - not exactly cheap but I found mini pots of olives with manchego and they also had pots of mini chorizo (didn't look at the carb count as I'm veggie). M&S do a seed & nut mix flavoured with Soy sauce 6.1g carbs per 100g - not too bad in moderation if you are veggie. I've also been taking mini baby bel out as snacks.

Pork scratchings are good low carb quick snack

Doshusallie Tue 30-Apr-13 21:33:47

I have a pkt of pork scratchings every day I love 'em. Sainsbos do the hog roast pork cracklings ones they are lush.

decaffwithcream Tue 30-Apr-13 21:34:22

I know it's a bit processed but for an instant snack I put one babybel in the microwave to make a large cheese crisp.

(didn't work with the purple ones, only the red).

I started low-carbing a week ago and was v surprised to realise i had had no PMT this week. Does avoiding the sugar swings with this WOE help with PMT?

thekitchenfairy Tue 30-Apr-13 21:49:48

Hope you feel better soon wand

ewan do you take a particular supplement? Intrigued by chromium as my sugar addiction is still not banished... And I like the idea of a salad ideas swap, i am struggling for lunches as colleagues v grumpy about my near daily choice of smelly egg mayo grin

Made a fab supper tonight... An omelette with spinach, leek, shallot, feta and finished off with a good topping of cheddar... Sort of spanikoppita with no pastry! Enough left for lunch tomorrow... Double yum!

GetOrfMoiLand Tue 30-Apr-13 21:50:39

I managed to find some low carb snacks at Paddington station (always a weak point) - M&S do these little snack packs of prawns with dip and chicken with some dip. I bought those and 3 snack sizes of cheese. Cost a bloody FORTUNE but staved off the hunger.

That's all I have eaten all bloody day, just got in and can't be arsed to cook chops.

GetOrfMoiLand Tue 30-Apr-13 21:51:35

Macadamia nuts are the best snack ever, but they cost a lot of money for what you get. Sainsburys used to sell snack packs for a quid but now just sell larger packs.

BIWI Tue 30-Apr-13 22:02:24

decaff - lots of people do report that low carbing helps with PMT! Just one of the other benefits ... smile

angieair best random snack ever!

decafwithcream YES to this woe banishing my PMT - it is fab!

thekitchenfairy salad ideas: egg mayo, tuna mayo, some salami torn up, cheeses, olives, any leftover meat (with mayo if dry), salmon, smoked salmon trimmings (cheaper and already torn up!), prawn and avocado, grilled goats cheese with roasted pine nuts (my favourite). I always have lettuce (but different types), cucumber as my base. I make a little dressing with olive oil and cider vinegar.

Ruprekt Tue 30-Apr-13 22:06:37

Good day today. smilesmile

B 2 eggs, bacon and mushrooms

L celeriac soup

D pan fried pork fillet with sauteed spinach

S babybel

Water, coffee, tea, peppermint tea

GetOrfMoiLand Tue 30-Apr-13 22:07:16

Espresso con panna in Caffe Nero is a great treat - you get half a tonne of whipped cream. It's great.

That spanikoppita sounds wonderful.

GetOrfMoiLand Tue 30-Apr-13 22:08:03

I have forgotten about the guilty joy of goat cheese minibaby bels and marmite cheeses. Need to get some tomorrow.

For salads I can't recommend this enough. You can get them from lots of places, in different colours or clear. It has a ice bl

Block that goes in the top, knife and fork and a little
Pot for your dressing!

GetOrfMoiLand Tue 30-Apr-13 22:10:31

What a brilliant idea hercule.

sammisatt Tue 30-Apr-13 23:12:34

Day 2 check in:

B: mushrooms, bacon, 2 eggs
L: roast lamb, left over braised cabbage
S: pâté and olives
D: invited to a birthday party so ate pork scratchings and ham beforehand then picked on olives, chorizo, a small piece of cheese and then... One and a half glasses of red wine. Not ideal and will probably delay ketosis.

sammisatt Tue 30-Apr-13 23:13:25

I love the salad box!

Bessie123 Wed 01-May-13 00:13:12

Just popping in so the thread is in active convos. Hoping to lose a whole stone on bootcamp so no stuffing my face with chocolate this time round

BIWI you are an angel, thankyou for starting this up again

middleagedspread Wed 01-May-13 06:05:38

Morning all.
I have, ahem, an embarrassing side effect...
I think it's all those eggs & much less fibre than I'm used to.
Don't suppose I could have some stewed prunes or rhubarb?

thekitchenfairy Wed 01-May-13 06:21:02

Love the salad box, thanks for ideas mrshercule today will be something with mozzarella and gammon...

It will pass middleaged drink as much water as you can today... And a mug of water as hot as you can bear it, it might take a few days to adjust, it's just your body getting use to fuelling itself more efficiently ie not so much waste!

ohforfoxsake Wed 01-May-13 06:22:06

OK I'm jumping back on this wagon.

sybilfaulty Wed 01-May-13 06:26:52

Middleaged, poor you. I suffer with that as well and I know that it's miserable. I agree that the hot cup of coffee can help, but also keep up with the water and make sure you are getting plenty of vegetables. It#s easy to have lots of fat and protein but don't forget the veg! Some buttered spinach or cabbage would really help to boost your fibre and get your system back to normal.

I can't remember the carbs of rhubarb except that they are low but obviously you need lots of sweetener as it's so sharp! We are trying to steer clear of artificial things so that wouldn't really work. Plums are very carby as they are so sweet. Both best avoided.

Some of us take psyllium husk (from Holland and barrett) at the beginning to bulk out our poo. Plenty of water should help here too.

Sympathies, as it's horrid. Take care.

HoopaPoop Wed 01-May-13 06:36:09

Is rhubarb ok if it's not sweetened?

rubyrubyruby Wed 01-May-13 06:50:07

I need to lose a few pounds before my holiday so I have room to put them back on
......... can't start just yet though. Is it possible to jump in next week?

JaxTellerIsAllMine Wed 01-May-13 06:52:21

woohoo! I was so good yesterday despite being taken out for lunch and being a model in hairdressers for 5 hours! DH brought my dinner in for me.

B - 2 scrambled eggs with lots butter
L - Chicken and Chorizo Salad with pesto dressing
D - Roast lamb, celeriac chips and roast peppers.

Lots of water, and lots of coffee.

halfthesize Wed 01-May-13 07:02:02

morning ladies, ok need some food ideas. l am running an election office tomorrow that has no microwave or cooker just instant hot water.....shock
I'm feeling very bloated and sluggish today but remember that happening before, so will up water intake today.

Hoopa not in bootcamp but in theory on bootcamp light. It is very tart though

Middleagedspread are you sure it's constipation or just not going as often as you're used to? If definitely constipation, another tactic is to take some magnesium

Attackofthefiftyfootwoman Wed 01-May-13 07:29:50

I have lost 3lb!!!! Need daily motivation so I weigh myself almost daily well happy about that.whoop!!

Chipsbigbowl Wed 01-May-13 07:54:09

Half the size-

A lunchbox with a few boiled eggs, cheese sticks/slices, spinach leaves and M and S do some yummy deli chicken breasts with skin on (they are plain, not in sugar or sauce etc) so low carb and I slice one up and put that in lunch box. Keeps me going!

EwanHoozami Wed 01-May-13 07:55:53

Excellent work, Attack smile

thekitchenfairy I took chromium picolinate from H&B for a while as a separate supplement, now I just make sure my multivit has chromium in.

halfthesize Wed 01-May-13 07:56:22

thanks chips am off to m&s this morning. problem is I start at 5:30 and don't finish till around 11...confused

Ruprekt Wed 01-May-13 07:57:44

I was laughing out loud at the poster who could not get her mindset round eating chicken skin!!

I was exactly the same in January smilesmile but now I eat it with glee and gobble it up! Same with pork crackling as dh does not like it sonI get it all!!

Just wait.....you will soon be chomping it down! smilesmilesmilesmile

middleagedspread Wed 01-May-13 07:59:56

WW, I think it's a combination of both. I've had piping hot coffee & will have spinach omelette for brekkie. Glad it's not just me.
I'm loving this thread, thanks all.

ruprekt i was the same - totally fat-phobic, hated the taste of butter, but i love it now

Chipsbigbowl Wed 01-May-13 08:08:28

Maybe quite a few boiled eggs then !!! smile

frenchfries22 Wed 01-May-13 08:09:29

Day three and I am sure carb flu I feel horrible and so so exhausted no appetite but forced an omelette down managed to take dd swimming this morning but been on the sofa all afternoon, I take it just tons of water? Have dinner out tonight and worried I will have a wobble as feel so rubbish -how long will this last?

prettybird Wed 01-May-13 08:15:13

Had a lovely chicken dish last night using a recipe from Smitten Kitchen. It involved marinating 6-8 chicken thighs or legs in buttermilk (although I used yoghurt and milk and a squoosh of lemon juice), 5 cloves of garlic, paprika , a tablespoon of salt and a tablespoon of sugar (don't worry - it gets wiped off anyway or you can leave it out) for 6 to 48 hours, removing from the marinade, drizzling in olive oil, a wee bit more paprika and some sea salt and roasting at 425F for 30 minutes. Yummy smile

I'll link to it when I'm back on the pc.

sorry you're feeling rotten frenchfries. it shouldn't last longer than a few days, and it does go to show how physical the desire to eat carbs is

do keep up with the water, and make sure you eat enough too because it's when you're both hungry AND craving carbs that you risk wagon-toppling. make sure your salt levels aren't too low - salmon, avocado etc are good for that, and add a bit of salt to your food as you're drinking lots of water

frenchfries22 Wed 01-May-13 08:18:52

Thanks Willie salts a good idea will make a marmite drink now

BIWI Wed 01-May-13 08:33:34

.... and eat plenty of fat, frenchfries.

It will soon pass, we promise smile

PennyHofstadter Wed 01-May-13 08:46:29

Morning all, weighed myself this morning and it appears I've dropped another 1.75lb since yesterday. I am v. chuffed and it's a great motivator for me however I know just how much weight can fluctuate.
I will wait and see what the official weigh in on Monday morning brings.

TMI but TOTM has arrived with a vengence this morning and I normally hold onto water and bloat like a balloon so tomorrows foray onto the scales might not be so successful...

Breakfast - 2 hard boiled eggs, avocado
Lunch - tuna mayo with cucumber, green leaf and red cabbage salad
Snack - celery sticks, philly soft cheese
Dinner - not decided yet, maybe some steak with vegetables

BIWI Wed 01-May-13 08:55:50

This has been posted before (and is also on the Spreadsheet in the resources section) but for those of you who are new to low carbing, this is really worth watching

It's long at 54 minutes. Just watch the first 10 minutes if you haven't got the time to see the whole thing. To see how obesity rates spread across the USA once people were advised to eat low fat foods is absolutely shocking.

OMG I am officially rubbish. I sabotaged myself on Monday & Tuesday so am determined to stay on plan now. What a muppet sad

On the other hand I've just had the most amazing 2 egg omelette with ham, cheese & mushrooms. It was gorgeous

Tuna mayo & celery for lunch then a thai chicken curry with broccoli for dinner.

Already had a pint of water too

ZimboMum Wed 01-May-13 09:09:45

Morning all! 3lbs down from Monday - woohoo!

Thanks for the carb counts for lemon and lime Biwi- glad to see that the squeeze of lemon in the vinaigrette has a negligible level of carbs.

Dinner last night was pork fillet topped with blitzes rosemary, parsley garlic and olive oil roasted in foil parcels in the oven with sautéed courgettes, leeks and butter. Meat was a bit tough so would prob fry it next time with lots of basting.

B: omelette with herbs, cheese and a bit of bacon that needed eating. Fennel and nettle tea. And water.

letsseeificandothis Wed 01-May-13 09:15:05

.... and eat plenty of fat, frenchfries.

When I clicked on the thread just now, this was the top line on my screen. And I thought - wow, I'm allowed chips, I didn't realise!

As you were. blush

BIWI Wed 01-May-13 09:17:35


Sorry to get you all excited there, letsseeificandothis!

Ooooh, and a salad idea as I saw someone ask for them up thread when I skim read it a minute ago. This is a sort of staple salad in the restaurants in a town we go to in Bulgaria, it's V yum & filling. Similar to Greek salad I suppose

Chopped cucumber (often peeled) - pieces about 2cm ish
Quartered tomatoes
Thinly sliced green pepper
Grated goats cheese

It's nice with a few black olives thrown in & also a bit of fresh parsley/dried oregano

I love it as there's no salad dressing involved - a pet hate of mine!

BIWI Wed 01-May-13 09:20:02

That sounds lovely, but easy on the tomatoes - and add some olive oil too, for extra fat - otherwise you're not really eating much by way of fat here.

EwanHoozami Wed 01-May-13 09:20:16

I have to admit to never really adjusting to chicken skin and any visible animal fat that isn't nuked to a crisp. I just can't abide the texture.

BUT as fat is the most important nutrient to eat more of you can make sure you incorporate it in other ways...

- generous slooshes of olive oil over salads and veg
- cooking as much as possible in loads of butter. Melting it into soups.
- cooking with coconut oil and adding it to herbal teas
- eating foods like fatty salmon and avocado
- a splash of double cream here and there
- learn to make a kick-ass hollandaise sauce and apply liberally

oh 'tis such a hardship grin

Will do grin

PiHigh Wed 01-May-13 09:28:13

Dh and I are bowing out blush. I think the carb/sugar/caffeine withdrawl was triggering my anxiety. I'm planning on going back to WW (which I did well on last year) to lose some weight and cut out the snacking then might come back to this in a few months with the hope that it'll be easier as I'm essentially doing 2 smaller cutbacks of carbs if that makes sense?

Good luck to all of you smile

rubybricks Wed 01-May-13 09:35:58

Day 3? Day 3!! i NEVER make it to day 3 of anything!!
just trying to keep up with the thread - ruprekt that was me that can't eat chicken skin - years of conditioning there - and have just ignored references to crackling for the same reason...smile but will let you know when i break through!

D: pan fried salmon, overwilted spinach, crushed swede with cream & butter - all very filling

B: 2 eggs & mushroom, fried - big glass water, cuppa tea

haven't been hungry at all which is a first for me, also haven't weighed self yet so don't know if i'm doing everything right (and i know i'm not - have cut down on tea and coffee drastically but still a way to go)

going to go shopping again today and see if i can get more exciting things to eat for the rest of the week, am enjoying seeing what everyone else is having...

Convert Wed 01-May-13 09:40:00

Morning everyone, I added myself to the sign up thread but have only started today, I've had a bloody horrible cold and couldn't face it! Feeling much better this morning so I've been on the cross trainer and in going to make scrambled eggs, bacon and mushrooms for breakfast. grin

CarolBornAMan Wed 01-May-13 09:42:07

I am really enjoying it so far - and I have lost a couple of lb already! I am going to weigh daily to keep my motivation up. I am a compulsive grazer but do find this kills any needs I have to eat - I noticed I was picking recently more out of unconscious habit than actual need and so stopped it quite quickly.. just feel so full all the time!

I am going to try a C25K run later today - have noticed I do feel a little more tired so going to take it easier and maybe switch to swimming for the first 2 weeks and then go back to the harder cardio when I can eat berries and stuff to create some quick energy ...

Dinner tonight is sausages with the cabbage recipe that I am looking forward to - might throw some crisp bacon over it to entice the kids in!

twinklestar2 Wed 01-May-13 09:43:07


Chicken salad
Chicken and veg

How bad is it if I'm still having half a sugar here and there in my tea/coffee?

BIWI Wed 01-May-13 09:52:25

PiHigh - I'm sorry to hear that sad. It's a shame as by now you should be through the worst of the withdrawal. Could you manage another day? Possibly increase your carbs a little and see if that helps? Why not try snacking on some nuts and adding a few berries into what you're eating today?

But quite understand if it's not helping your anxiety. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

Carol - take it easy with your exercise over the next couple of weeks, as in the transition from carb-burning to fat burning you are likely to feel more tired/feel the exercise is harder.

twinklestar - it's very bad. Really. For a start, you aren't breaking the hold that sweet stuff has over you. And second, every time you have the sugar, your body is releasing insulin to deal with it. So your blood sugar levels won't be stabilising.

justpoppy Wed 01-May-13 09:54:22

for those of you who are a little constipated I can recommend these I've used them on and off for a few years now (especially when LCing).

BIWI Wed 01-May-13 09:59:14

Let's say that you have 2 cups of coffee and 2 cups of tea a day, each with half a teaspoon of sugar. Half a teaspoon of sugar has 4.2g carbs. Therefore, before you have even eaten anything, you will have consumed 16.8g carbs.

On top of that, I assume you're drinking milk in your tea and coffee? So there will be carbs in that.

And then there's your food ...

You can eat a lot of veg/salad for those 16.8g carbs!

(And remember that if you were doing Atkins Induction, you would only be allowed 20g carbs per day)

Newlook Wed 01-May-13 10:03:45

Thanks BIFI, spreadsheet link not showing at the mo, perhaps it's being updated. I am 186.5 pounds, started on Monday. I am happy for you to add me on if that's ok. Is it ok to join you if I am using EXANTE to get me started? I understand if not smile, it's just that I feel it will help me succeed as I have struggled to withdraw from carbs/sugar in the past.

newlook you're already in there including your weight, so i think you must have added yourself? the link is showing in BIWI's second post on the thread - MN had a bit of a tantrum on monday!

Newlook Wed 01-May-13 10:13:29

Thank you WWD! I did add my details but couldn't see how to upload so there you go, I am a technical wizard after all...?! Thanks for letting me know.

twinklestar2 Wed 01-May-13 10:18:30

BIWI - ok I've just made a tea without sugar but with a bit of milk. Is that ok? I'm not sure I can drop both milk and sugar at the same time!

Should I get some cream instead?

slatternlymother Wed 01-May-13 10:23:50

Just checking in! Seem to have slid back into it all fairly easily, not getting any major cravings just yet, but I don't know if it's because this is my second time doing the Bootcamp and I know any cravings are all in my head.

BIWI I have combined this diet with 5:2. Is this ok? I feel fine (fast day yesterday) and actually really clean. I feel like it's helped overall. But am I setting myself up to fail?

prettybird Wed 01-May-13 10:43:17

twinklestar Shhhhh, don't tell BIWI 'cos I'm afraid of her big stick but I changed my milk back to full fat (yes, it felt strange doing so), which means you use less of it in your tea and I have more than two cups of tea a day winkblush

In my defence, I did still manage to lose 29lb on the last Boot Camp! grin and was the joint biggest loser weight wise and the biggest loser percentage wise smilesmile - but I must be one of those fortunate ones that doesn't get stalled by dairy.

VikingLady Wed 01-May-13 10:47:56

Well, it was all going well for my first ever boot camp - until hospitality got the better of me! A friend came round yesterday and I had to buy cake to offer her, so I ate half a chocolate cake.... Then DH bought me a dairy milk and that went too...

Back on track for today!

I'm a bit confused though. Am I allowed things in a tomato sauce? Specifically chili?

Convert Wed 01-May-13 10:52:50

I'm just wondering, as I really really hate water, if I drink very weak no added sugar squash instead is that ok? It says that 100ml contains 2.9 g of carbs (that's undiluted)

twinklestar2 Wed 01-May-13 11:00:11

Thanks prettybird smile

I think I'll try and drink more green tea and cut back on normal tea and coffee with milk.

anchovies Wed 01-May-13 11:07:27

Am just going to post my entire day foodwise yesterday blush and just wondering if someone could see if the quantity I am eating (or how much dairy) is going to impact how much I lose?

b - yoghurt, total 0% (bought full fat yesterday, that was all I had!)
l - brocolli and blue cheese soup (homemade; stock, brocolli, onion, garlic, little bit of blue cheese)
d - celariac dauphinoise (celariac, butter, cream, milk, cheese) pork (a ridiculous amount), broccolli and green beans
s - 3 little packets of full fat boursin, piece of mackerel, 2 coffees with milk

ToomuchIsBackOnBootcamp Wed 01-May-13 11:12:16

Morning all. Hope everyone is doing ok, and newbies remember "carb flu" will pass in a few days (or you may be lucky and not suffer at all.)

Long walk with dog this morning after school drop off then back to scrambled eggs made with butter and double cream and a couple of leftover cold sausages. Yum.

Ipad is not being cooperative at all, could someone with a more friendly bit of kit please add my weight to the s/sheet at 154. I am Toomuchwaternotwine on there but happy for you to change my name to this bootcamp name now too smile

Despite me just asking a question there, remember you are more likely to get specific questions answered on the questions thread as this chatty thread moves so fast. Will link in a sec.

ToomuchIsBackOnBootcamp Wed 01-May-13 11:13:50

twinkle I have a drop of double cream in my coffee instead of milk, it's lush, and I find the taste of milk in coffee not satisfying enough now! Don't drink tea so can't help you there.

ToomuchIsBackOnBootcamp Wed 01-May-13 11:15:40
twinklestar2 Wed 01-May-13 11:17:18

Oops sorry I forgot about the questions thread smile

all sorted toomuch smile

vikinglady you can have things in tomato sauce - that is, homemade using a tin or carton of chopped tomatoes (avoid tomato sauce in a jar, which will almost certainly have tons of sugar added as well as other crap). BIWI has found that sainsbury's basics cartons of chopped tomatoes are relatively low carb compared to other brands

i tend to use a lot less though as the tomatoes can add a reasonably amount of carbs if you're not careful. so where before i might have used two or three cartons, i just use one and top up with a bit of water. if it needs to thicken, i reduce it like the devil as you would normally

anchovies Wed 01-May-13 11:23:05

Sorry forgot about the questions thread too blush

BIWI Wed 01-May-13 11:24:55

Convert - squash is a big no no, I'm afraid. As well as the carbs, it is horribly artificial, and we're really trying to avoid artificial sweeteners.

What about fruit teas?

anchovies it is possible that the amount of dairy might affect you considering your menu yesterday - you had dairy for every meal plus snacks. as guidance, i think atkins suggests no more than 100g of cheese per day (which is a reasonable amount I think)

however, it may be that dairy doesn't affect you at all, and it's difficult to know at this early stage. the most important thing for the first few days of bootcamp is to cut down the carbs, and if the cheese is helping you do that then so be it. the only thing 'wrong' with your menu is the 0% yoghurt, but you know that grin, and i would possibly eliminate the milk from the celeriac dauphinoise as i don't think it's necessary for the recipe really and just adds more carbs

BIWI Wed 01-May-13 11:26:01

anchovies - your menu (now you've got full fat yoghurt wink) looks find - but there's a lot of dairy in there. You may be OK with it, but if you find you're not losing weight, that's the first thing to cut down on.

BIWI Wed 01-May-13 11:26:54

slatternly - I think if you have become ketogenically-adapted through longer-term low carbing, then the whole 5:2/intermittent fasting is probably fine. Just make sure you don't end up starving hungry and then eating something you shouldn't do. I routinely miss breakfast these days - unless I'm hungry.

BIWI Wed 01-May-13 11:27:55

VikingLady - you need to snap out of that perspective if you're going to make low carbing work for you! Get back on the Bootcamp wagon and make sure you drink plenty of water.

anchovies Wed 01-May-13 11:30:26

Makes sense, thank you both. It's almost harder doing this because it's like an anti diet! Will keep an eye on the dairy for the next couple of days smile

EwanHoozami Wed 01-May-13 11:36:27

Convert you could try putting a few slices of cucumber in a jug of water instead. It totally masks the tapwater taste and is really refreshing.

twinklestar2 Wed 01-May-13 11:38:27

Biwi and some of the regular low carbers, could you post your menu to give us newbies an idea of what you're eating?

EwanHoozami Wed 01-May-13 11:38:58

B - Lidl yog
L - boiled egg and bresaola salad
D - stilton and broccoli soup with paté on celery sticks

EwanHoozami Wed 01-May-13 11:43:47

If it would help, my meal plan for this week has also included...

chicken thigh, roast swede and halloumi Moroccan traybake
five spice marinaded salmon with pak choi and cauli rice
chicken liver salad
shepherds pie (made with celeriac mash)
smoked mackerel asian (konnyaku) noodle salad
pork chops and braised cabbage
naice ham, egg and celeriac chips

snowballinashoebox Wed 01-May-13 11:45:30

Firstly I would just like to say thank you to BIWI and everyone for all the effort and support on these threads.

Secondly I have lost 4.2lbs - is that too fast?
I am over the moon because yesterday I felt so truly crap by the afternoon, bloated, headachey and dizzy. I think maybe a lot of this is coffee withdrawal. So this morning I had the smallest coffee and a minute amount of milk and feel a bit better today, interestingly didn't enjoy it!
b mushroom omelete with chives
l avocado salad
d spag bol without the spag

cathyandclaire Wed 01-May-13 11:46:02

1lb down for me smile
B- bacon, egg and mushrooms
L- Grilled haloumi cheese salad
D- Chicken in boursin cream sauce (has a small splash of white wine in but not much) with fried white cabbage.


yesterday's menu:

B: 2 eggs scrambled with butter
L: tuna mayonnaise (the tuna was tinned with olive oil; hellman's full fat mayo)
D: cold roast chicken with avocado and lettuce with vinaigrette

today's menu:

B: tuna mayonnaise (leftover from yesterday) with lettuce
L: cold roast chicken with mayonnaise and raw spinach
D: homemade beef burgers (i just use fatty mince mixed with salt, pepper and a dash of worcestershire sauce, made into patties and fried) with cauliflower steak and curly kale (i know this seems a weird combination, but it's what i've got left before i do the weekly shop)

ooh, yesterday's breakfast included wilted spinach, and at lunchtime i had cucumber with the tuna mayo

BIWI Wed 01-May-13 12:02:36

A typical Bootcamp day for me:

Breakfast - one or two boiled eggs, or some Total ff yoghurt with vanilla extract (a non-sugar one that Waitrose sells)

Lunch - some kind of protein with salad, with an oily dressing and mayo (I often have leftovers from the previous night's dinner if there are any)

Dinner - tonight we will be having roast pork, with crackling, with broccoli (which I will parboil and then fry in butter/oil, with sliced shallots and chilli flakes), swede mash (made with lots of butter) and salad with a garlicky vinaigrette. I won't do potatoes for DH/DS2, we will all eat the same

middleagedspread Wed 01-May-13 12:13:40

I'm beginning to understand the rules.
I think I've been indoctrinated to think 'high fibre, low fat' for so many years & to reduce portion size that it's taking some getting used to.
Eating a chunk of parmesan, a handful of olives then a big meal & expecting to lose weight feels very strange.

GetOrfMoiLand Wed 01-May-13 12:18:47

I am amazed that swede is low carb. It tastes so carby. I bloody love swede as well. I will get some for later. I will have to prevent myself from eating the whole lot with a wooden spoon straight from the saucepan whilst reading the paper.

My usual thing

Breakfast - never bother

Lunch - salad wraps (little gems with chicken or tuna mayo, or pate)
Coronation chicken (homemade)
Cheese (I know this can effect some people's weight loss but I have always been fine with cheese)
Smoked mackerel
Smoked salmon (those off cut packets are great for about a quid, perfect for salad)
Boiled eggs with mayo

If I am out a salad from somewhere or packets of mini chicken fillets or a quarterpouder from macdonalds <slob>


Rotisserie chickens (WHY are these so delicious).
Steak, mushrooms and tomatoes (those little ones on a vine, not too many).
Huevos rancheros (baked eggs, tomatoes, peppers and chilli - bit carby but a treat).
Eggs florentine (spinach with eggs baked in, then covered in hollandaise if I can be bother or cheese if not).
Cauliflower cheese - I could eat this every day I love it so much
Cabbage or Kale - I love greens so could eat just a bowl of that, or have it with bolognese sauce or chilli
Laziness - Sainsburys Just Cook ready meals - chicken breasts or meatballs or whatever which you just hurl in the oven for 30 mins.
Fajitas - using mini gems instead of tortillas. A bit carby because of the tomato and pepper.

GetOrfMoiLand Wed 01-May-13 12:22:20

BIWI - I was going to ask you (I am sorry you have probably answered this many times) - the polyol things in atkins bars and diabetic chocolate? The atkins wrappers say they are not counted as carbs as such. Do you think the body does count polyols as carbs or not?

twinklestar2 Wed 01-May-13 12:24:52

Thanks for menus!

GetOrfMoiLand Wed 01-May-13 12:25:15

Just had a look at the spreadsheet of fabulousnessness and can't believe that swede is only 2.3g per 100g. So realistically I could happily eat a kilo of swede made with half a packet of butter. <thrilled>

Bollocking pointless bean sprouts are 16g per 100. Madness!

WhyIRayLiotta Wed 01-May-13 12:26:55

I have lost the lb that Put on yesterday and another one too. delighted. I want to get into the 12st figures this week (I am now 13st 1lb.)

The meal plans sound great. I am going to steal some of the ideas!

Doshusallie Wed 01-May-13 12:28:57

lidl yoghurt (170g)

lettuce, cucumber, mushrooms, lidl full fat mayo, smoked sausage and 2 boiled eggs - work lunch box

something with chicken and courgettes

pkt pork scratchings.

at least 2 litres of water, 4-5 black decaf coffees (I do have sweetener as can't drink it without blush), 1 decaf tea with splash of milk

GetOrfMoiLand Wed 01-May-13 12:34:45

I had lost nowt this morning.

That's one thing which is really apparent with this - previously on cal counting diets the weight comes off steadily. This though is more like a series of steps - you lose a few pounds, then lose nothing for a week. Then -whumph- out of nowhere you lose another lot of weight, and then is stabilises again. It's a bit strange, and can be frustrating when you have 10 days or so of no weightloss when you have not cheated at all, but you have to see it as a long game.

i have no idea why the weightloss is like that, there must be some scientific reason. It is just very different from what is considered the norm imo.

BIWI Wed 01-May-13 12:38:17

GetOrf - I'm really not sure about polyols. Some interesting info here

They aren't advised on Bootcamp anyway, because they are artificial as well as being sweet, which we're trying to avoid.

And, they can have a dire effect on your digestion! Voice of bitter experience

Having said that, they can be useful to have as an emergency snack. I take them with me if I'm travelling anywhere (train or flying), so that I've always got something that is low carb to hand.

And occasionally some of them sneak into my cupboard blush and I can't say that they have had a negative impact on weight loss. In weeks where I've been keeping a food diary, and I have had them, they don't seem to interfere.

So I'd say - not for Bootcamp, but once we're on Bootcamp Light they can be useful.

BIWI Wed 01-May-13 12:39:16
GetOrfMoiLand Wed 01-May-13 12:39:47

No, I wasn't thinking about bootcamp. Just for a chocolate treat when in dire need (thinking also of diabetic chocolate and ice cream).

Thanks for that link.

GetOrfMoiLand Wed 01-May-13 12:44:20

Well that maltilol looks pointless - you may as well have sugar. How strange. I wonder what is in those atkins bars. <goes off to look>

GetOrfMoiLand Wed 01-May-13 12:47:21

Maltilose apparently. Mind you I have eaten them before and they didn;t have any ill effect. But probably if you had one or two a day it would slow the weightloss down.

Convert Wed 01-May-13 13:06:14

Thanks for the answers to my question. Will persevere with the water!

Doshusallie Wed 01-May-13 13:43:48

I had 3 thorntons sugar free chocolates last night - and had major runs this morning. blush

MaryBeardfanclub Wed 01-May-13 13:49:52

B: 2 hard boiled eggs with butter
L: bolognaise sauce with buttered cabbage, cheese on top
D: will be salmon with buttered spinach

My energy levels have really gone up massively - really noticed it yesterday as I've been feeling tired and headachy for 2 weeks previously. It could be AF has come and gone (1st one for 2.5 years) or maybe coming off caffeine. Anyhoo, it's great!


ecuse Wed 01-May-13 13:54:42

GetOrf not for bootcamp but for longer term general low carbing I believe dark chocolate is fine (I have been having a strip or two every night for the last two months, and have lost a stone)

85% Green & Blacks or Lindt chocolate has about 22g in the entire (cooking size 100g) bar so about 7g in a couple of strips

NigellasGuest Wed 01-May-13 14:08:56

you can beat some chocolate powder into double cream to create a syllabub type puddingy thing, if you're ok with dairy, and like cream! or add chocolate essence!
sorry for lots of !! .... I do get quite excited talking about cream and chocolate.... blush

BIWI Wed 01-May-13 15:29:06


BerylStreep Wed 01-May-13 16:36:26

I was on a course with work about 6 weeks ago, and to avoid the scones, had brought Brazil nuts with me.

As I was snacking on them, the girl beside me piped up (uninvited) that I should be eating cashews, as they were healthier for me, as she tucked into an Atkins bar.

I just smiled and said 'what a great idea, I'll think about that'. Numpty. I hate people:
a. commenting about what I eat
b. dispensing rubbish advice

Anyhow, I'm off to Amsterdam this weekend, so I will probably weigh myself tomorrow and enter it onto the spreadsheet early. Cutting down on diary, especially milk, seems to have helped the weight loss.

VikingLady Wed 01-May-13 16:51:16

We made our own ricotta yesterday! Low carbing is sooooo expensive that every little helps, and it is helping me maintain an interest in cooking. I am getting quite bored already...

Fried or roasted broccoli is gorgeous btw!

Finbar Wed 01-May-13 17:04:35

Oh hell - fallen off the wagon on day 3...what's that all about?

Did ok all day until I got home and craved bisuits and gave in. am gutted
Greek yogurt and blueberries
mini babybel snack
Piri piri chicken for lunch
Assorted nuts
lots of water...


Viking- Lidl or aldi are your friend when low carbing

CarolBornAMan Wed 01-May-13 17:17:20

Finbar - it happens, so learn from it, and get back on wagon! maybe get rid of biscuits until you are into the swing of the plan - I would just drink a load of water, review your goals that you had when you started the plan and get back into it - progress not perfection should be the mantra!

Finbar Wed 01-May-13 17:27:20

But I did so well before!
(thanks though!)

Off to drink drink drink

CarolBornAMan Wed 01-May-13 17:36:29

as long as it is not wine wine wine!!

dawnpreview Wed 01-May-13 17:37:32

Today I had nothing for breakfast (I know, I know!), for lunch I had 2 black farmers sausages, 2 hard boiled eggs and some salad.
Snack this afternoon was some feta and a couple of spoons of Greek yogurt. Does that sound ok?
Not sure what is for dinner yet. I have also drunk loads of water. I feel quite tired, but I did do 30 mins on my elliptical and swam for 30 mins this morning.
Thanks to BIWI and willie for all their hard work smile

dawnpreview Wed 01-May-13 17:38:51

Don't know what I miss most, wine or chocolate!

Well my official week one weigh in this morning gives me a 5lb loss since last Wednesday. Happy with that!

Still a bit bunged up and notice that whenever I eat anything my stomach gets a bit bloated. I assume that will sort itself out in time. Have bought magnesium. And Ducolax for a dire emergency!

Food today was:

B total yoghurt with flaxseed (how god are e full fat ones?? Much nicer than the 0% ones I had been having on weight watchers.
L - smoked salmon roulades, cherry peppers with ricotta, sliced turkey
Snack - babble
Dinner will be assorted meats on BBQ with salad.

DS made Eton Mess at school and brought it home............... I love Eton Mess. Tomorrow I am off to London for my Thai lunch with wine. I may put the Eton Mess in the fridge for tomorrow night when I get back and just accept tomorrow I am off plan. Was supposed to be staying in London tomorrow night but coming home now and was supposed to be at a friends on Friday but that is now cancelled so at least I can consolidate the badness into one day!

dawnpreview Wed 01-May-13 17:53:43

5lbs is great cider, well done!
I have been feeling a bit bloated after eating too, don't know if this is normal.

PennyHofstadter Wed 01-May-13 18:10:17

Quick question, does the creamy cabbage keep in the fridge for a couple of days?

HeirToTheIronThrone Wed 01-May-13 18:21:48

If anyone's looking for an amazing breakfast, this morning I fried leftover red cabbage and lardons in butter, and had it with a fried egg on top... DP and I are still on hols, so went to a new diner place for lunch - massive burger with cheese, bacon, avocado and watercress - minus the bun! And will have some bolognese sauce and broccoli later after hula hoop class. Also walked round 9 holes of golf in the sun with DP this morning so feeling ace!

RaspberrySchnapps Wed 01-May-13 18:28:33

It's going quite well, I haven't been on the scales yet but am really headache-y, and spent the morning going through recipes and the afternoon gardening so didn't notice how much water I got through (lots). feeling quite positive although the cravings are annoying even though I don't feel hungry. Salmon & spinach for tea. yum.

BIWI Wed 01-May-13 18:31:02

If you're bloating, sounds like you're not drinking enough water.

Finbar - why the blueberries! ignores reference to biscuits

Penny - can't see why not, as long as it was put in the fridge asap after cooking

dawn - why no breakfast? And not much veg in your meals so far!

Cider - great loss! Are you eating enough fat/drinking enough water? Have a great time.

Viking - how can you possibly be bored with all the lovely food that you can eat on this WOE?! Check out the recipe thread for inspiration.

Yama Wed 01-May-13 18:40:48

Evening all. Today:

B - scrambled eggs with parma ham and butter.
L - spinach salad with beef, pate and cheese.
D - Bolognaise with cauli rice and a smidge of grated cheese.

I am also having wine tonight after the all clear from a second mammogram and ultrasound due to a shadow on my first.

Finbar Wed 01-May-13 18:48:45

Blueberries to make it interesting, add vit C and fibre!
I though berries were the least awful carby fruits.

But good point..will have omelette tomorrow

dawnpreview Wed 01-May-13 19:06:11

Will try and drink more water. I am terrible for not eating breakfast, I am just not hungry until late morning/lunch time.
As for the veg- I did have a stir fry yesterday for dinner with lots of veg in it. I do love salad though, and could live on that every day!
I am not a very good cook, and am hoping by doing this I can learn to be more adventurous in the kitchen.

BIWI Wed 01-May-13 19:15:53


BIWI Wed 01-May-13 19:17:40

... and you will get enough fibre and vitamin C from veg/salad - honestly! As long as you are making sure that your carbs are coming from veg/salad, that will do the job.

dawn - when Bootcamp is over, you can start to miss breakfast, but it's important at this stage that you do eat so that you are keeping your blood sugar levels stable.

halfthesize Wed 01-May-13 19:19:56

Eve all, sorry to hear some are having some teething problems, trust us when we say as long as you stick to the rules this WOE is so easy to follow and so successful grin

Today's menu:

B - coffee and cream
L- chicken and green salad with mayo
D- Another salad with bacon and avocado
loads of water.

I have just prepared food for tomorrow have massive salad, hard boiled eggs, chicken, water, pork scratchings should keep me going.. smile

dawnpreview Wed 01-May-13 19:21:21

I will force myself to eat breakfast. Thanks BIWI, I do need a kick up the backside sometimes!

NellVarnish Wed 01-May-13 19:33:22

Wow, this thread moves fast!

dawn I don't often have breakfast during the week - at the weekends I normally have Lidl yoghurt which is delish, but during the week I have it about now (evening), as a sort of treat. Maybe I should try to have breakfast more often though.

Today I've had:

B: none
L: tuna mayo and salad and some curried cauliflower soup
D: 3 scrambled eggs with a bit of chopped up ham (naice, naturally)
S: Lidl yoghurt

Basically I am a bit of a lazy cook and cba really with fancynancy dishes so tend to make the same things over and over and then get bored. I need to up my game and make more of your lovely recipes. You are all soo good.

rubybricks Wed 01-May-13 19:39:10

that's great news Yama!

difficult day here - feeling decidedly spaced out, wonder if this is normal - and due to extra-curricular scheduling issues, have only managed to have dinner in the past half hour, so ate 2 pepperami as snacks this afternoon (after hearing them mentioned so often)

it was all i could do on my way round the supermarket not to grab a piece of fruit and tuck in, the whole thing took far longer than it usually would due to obsessively checking the small print on everything!

hope i haven't diverted from plan too much, lunch was salad leaves, mayo, half a tin of tuna, some smoked salmon and a soupcon of grated cheese on top for interest <rubbish chef>. then two pepperami and finally a plate of leftover mashed swede (didn't seem entirely cooked to me, is that just what swede is like?) with some leftover chopped gammon (more processed meat sad) and half an avocado. plus my bodyweight in water and just two cups of coffee (with cream) today.

still feeling positive about the plan, and now feeling lovely and full, but hope this lethargic/tired/fuzzy feeling goes away soon. going to hard boil some eggs now in readiness for tomorrow, hope everyone else has had a good day.

JaxTellerIsAllMine Wed 01-May-13 19:42:53

today has been a shit day, but eating wise think I have done ok.

Bf - nothing, well black coffee
L- bought a little pot of stuffed olives, stuffed spicy peppers and sundried tomatoes, only 4 peppers, few toms and 100g olives. Couldnt eat it all.
Dinner was brocolli salad with lamb from yesterday.

I am so tired today, but I know I havent had enough water but been on the go, actually waiting around for RAC (puncture) then to garage with car, you know how long everything takes when you want them to hurry up.

Tomorrow eve I am going out with friends, but am driving so wont be drinking alcohol and we are either eating Indian which I can scoff without rice/nan bread or Thai, in which case I have no clue what to eat! Everything comes with noodles or rice mixed in.

Yama Wed 01-May-13 19:52:43

Thanks Rubybricks - back on the water now. smile

Doshusallie Wed 01-May-13 19:53:10

Congratulations Yama, you must be very relieved. Xx

dawnpreview Wed 01-May-13 19:57:31

Missed Yamas post. That's great news, you definitely deserve a glass of wine.

BIWI Wed 01-May-13 19:58:32

The top 3 low carb problems and what to do about them!

WandOfElderNeverProsper Wed 01-May-13 20:17:46

Great news yama!

So I'm still super ill - lost nearly half a stone in two days. I'd say "yay" but bloody hell its not worth it! Work won't let me use annual leave either so I'm worrying too much to sleep as well. Doh!

I'll check back in properly in a few days when I'm back to normal, I've pretty much decided bugger it and I'll eat whatever takes my fancy cause I haven't had anything yet and its exhausting me!

PennyHofstadter Wed 01-May-13 20:18:05