Cutting down on Crisps and Chocolate

(54 Posts)
Octopus37 Sun 21-Apr-13 17:10:04

Well I have decided that for this week (day 1 being today) that I am not going to eat any crisps and that I am only allowed one serving of cake or chocolate a day. By serving I mean a small cake or normal size chocolate bar. I am very aware that to most people this probably sounds like overeating rather than dieting, but for me this is as good as it is going to get. I'm not overweight, but I want to drop a few pounds to look my best. I am one of those people who is small boned and not that tall (5ft5) so cannot get away with very much. Hoping that by posting on this thread, I will make myself stick to it, although to most people isn't hard, but I am a glutton and eat loads.
Today I have eaten:
1 pack of belivita biscuits
1 greek yoghurt
2 pieces of cheese on tast (not much cheese)
Some tinned pineapple
A twirl bar
Am planning to eat a tuna and sweetcorn quaesdilla for tea and that will be it. Drinks wise I have just had (as is usually the case) black tea and water). Who's with me as could do with a buddy.

Thumbtack Mon 22-Apr-13 08:10:05

hmm . . you sound like me! I'm also small, but i'm carrying some excess weight after baby - not too much, its doable, but i keep forgetting about healthy eating until after ive eaten!

I am also a glutton - and i live over a pub kitchen so i have chips, crisps, coke and pub meals within an arms reach! Theoretically this also means access to lots of lovely salad - but thats not what i automatically go for.

Today is a new day though so im planning on proper meals and no snacking. Sooo today i'll have toast x2 with butter and a chicken salad for lunch, havent worked out dinner yet . . .

must not drink coke, must not drink coke, must not drink coke . .

Octopus37 Mon 22-Apr-13 12:18:39

Good to know I'm not alone.
So far (realise this doesn't sound good, but trust me I could have eaten more).
A chocolate twist (DH bought it for me)
2 pieces of cheese no toast
3 cups of black tea

Aim is to try not to eat anything else chocolatey/cake like today and no crisps. Also going to walk the mile to get my DS from nursery shortly, do lots of walking which is one good thing.
I really wouldn't worry about the coke, would just make it diet coke, we have to deprive ourselves of enough as it is.

Thumbtack Mon 22-Apr-13 12:25:02

Ive gone and eaten an onion Bahji and mango pitta bread thing - this is what I mean about forgetting! Good luck with the no more chocolate, I can't do one sodding day!

Octopus37 Mon 22-Apr-13 19:38:16

That doesn't sound too bad. I meant limiting myself to one chocolately type thing a day (today's was my croissant twist thing), that is the best I can do. In addition to the above, have eaten:

10 salted almonds
5 pieces of vegetable sausage
Bowl of pasta with sweetcorn, veg sausage and red pesto.
Not too bad for me, but probably awful for anybody else.

Octopus37 Tue 23-Apr-13 17:09:26

Also ate a greek youghurt last night, was really hungry.

Today:
1 pack of belvita biscuits
Piece of melon
Cheese & Onion pasty (massive time famine due to project)
1 cadbury's spoonful egg
Planning on soya meatballs with a tomato sauce and pasta fo tea
Again anybody else would say not very good, but for me not too bad.
Planning to weigh in on Friday to see if I've lost anything

Thumbtack Tue 23-Apr-13 19:11:57

Your doing better than me!

ProfessorDent Tue 23-Apr-13 20:29:59

This diet doesn't sound too great really! Like you're depriving yourselves. If you're veggies it's hard though, I concede.

Crisps lead to chocolate, it's the salt needing sugar to balance it out, a kind of boom and bust of the food world. Drink a pint of water before you really feel you need to eat chocolate. Those Freddy choc bars for 20p are good imo, not too much and the chocolate seems good quality. Most choccie bars are really just pure refined sugar, utter rubbish but highly addictive.

Octopus37 Tue 23-Apr-13 20:34:12

I know its not ideal nutritionally and I know I'm addicted to sugar, but have stopped eating crisps. Drinking lots of water, partly due to the heat and it does make a difference. Problem is if I cut my food intake too much and don't eat any sugar at all, I feel as if I have no energy and as I'm sure is the case for most mumsnetters, life is pretty busy and I normally do quite a lot of walking.

ProfessorDent Tue 23-Apr-13 20:43:07

Yeah, fair enough. It's addictive because it's not satisfying, you always need more. Almonds are a good substitute for chocolate, I personally recommend chronium piccolate from Solgar to beat sugar cravings, along with Wassen's Magnesium for chocolate in particular. Bananas are good for a bit of sweetness and energy boosting. Walking is very good for getting the pounds off, better than running imo.

Thumbtack Wed 24-Apr-13 08:31:12

Thanks for the advice Professor - the water is a good one, trouble is, like i said earlier, i always forget that im trying to change my eating habits until after ive scoffed something - i too am addicted to sugar

Octopus37 Wed 24-Apr-13 16:06:21

Today I have eaten:
1 pack of Belvita biscuits
I and a half apples
Asda post of roast veg cous cous salad
The crust off a Warbutons seeded batch loaf
A twirl bar
Aiming to eat a tuna and sweetcorn quaesdilla and leave it at that.
Weighed in today, two pounds down, but prob just fluctuation, will weight again next Wednesday.

Octopus37 Wed 24-Apr-13 19:56:26

Have also just eaten a Muller Corner, just feeling a bit cranky and hungry tonight.

Octopus37 Thu 25-Apr-13 15:01:37

Todays:
1 pack of Belvita biscuits
1 muller corner yoghurt (out of multi pack so a bit smaller)
1 pot of Asda roast veg cous cous (depressingly found out that this contains over 400 cals, but not going to count cals as it makes me more hungry and depressed.
Now eating a Wispa bar
Tuna pasta for tea
So, so just cranky with less energy but know I am eating abit less than normal. No crisps since Saturday, quite pleased with that

ProfessorDent Fri 26-Apr-13 14:27:04

Tuna pasta aint great y'know, I tried that 20 years ago and wondered why I didn't lose weight. Pasta we know about but tuna is not the healthiest fish, mackeral is better or anything else.

Octopus37 Fri 26-Apr-13 18:57:22

Problem is my kids wouldn't eat mackrel. Admit I have fallen off the wagon today, but am back on it tomorrow. Today have eaten

1 pack of Belvita biscuits
1 muller corner
1 highlights hot chocolate
2 pieces of toast with lemon and corainder humus (reduced fat)
Some vice versas and aero bubbles
Went to Weatherspoons and had their Superfood past, some onion rings (about 6), 2 chips and a pint of Strongbow.
Have just got home and eaten more vice versas, aero bubbles and easter egg.
Know this sounds awful but determined not to feel guilty and also think that surely I am allowed once a week or so to eat what I want.
Tomorrow will be back on track, think writing down what I am eating is helping me keep perspective

FiftyShadesofGreyMatter Sat 27-Apr-13 22:04:26

Have you tried using My Fitness Pal? It's great for tracking what you are eating, even if you are not "dieting". Makes you aware of calorie values and might make better choices.

Octopus37 Sun 28-Apr-13 07:45:12

Would try myfitness pal, but dont have a smart phone and also I find that the whole calorie thing depresses me and makes me more obsessed. Also I know it would probably tell me I was only allowed about 1000 cals a day to lose weight. Yesterday ate:
1 pack of Belvita biscuits
1 tuna 6 inch sub with Italian bread salad and bbq sauce (no cheese)
Some icing off my DS's cupcake
3 wraps from a Regae Regae meal kit, which included Asda version of quorn, peppers and onions.
A small piece of choc cake when I got home.
Think the biggest thing for me is that I have stopped the mindless picking at crisps and I am actually tracking what I am eating.

teaandthorazine Sun 28-Apr-13 09:59:41

Octopus, I've been following your thread and have wondered whether or not to post. What really strikes me about your food is that there is an awful lot of very processed stuff in there. I think it's brilliant that you are trying to cut down on crisps and chocolate, but Belvita biscuits, meal kits, twirls, pasties, muller corners, cake, pasta... They are still packed full of sugar and artificial stuff which will still be stimulating your hunger and making it really difficult not to pick and snack.

You're veggie, yes? Can you get more actual veg into your diet? I can see sweet corn, peppers and onion in your meals this week but that's about it. You dont actually seem to be eating much either. You need to fill yourself up! Do you eat eggs? Eggs, fish, more veg. What about Greek yoghurt and banana for breakfast rather than Belvita biscuits (which despite what the ads say will not keep you full until lunch!) A big salad with some protein and fat (eggs, avocado, fish) for lunch? Nuts as a snack?

I know it's tough and please don't take this as a criticism. Trying to make changes is hard. Good luck!

Octopus37 Sun 28-Apr-13 12:29:43

Hi, thanks for your post, don't think your criticising at all. I know a lot of what I eat is quite processed, tbh its convenience and a complete time famine (which I know sounds like a poor excuse when it is probably the case for everyone else on mumset). I eat fish, but really don't like eggs or bananas. Nuts as a snack are a good idea, have got some almonds. Unfortunately really don't have time to make salad at lunchtime, but a friend of mine has suggested the pots of fresh soup that you can buy in the supermarket, only 3 mins in the microwave, could also be a way of getting more vegis I guess. Don't get me wrong I can and occasionally do make soup, its just that with kids, work everything else, I really don't have time that often.

Today have eaten
1 pack of belvita biscuits
1 small pack of dried apricots
1 highlights hot choc (fudge flavour)
2 pieces of toast (Warbutons seeded batch) with reduced fat lemon and coriander humus
5 salted almonds
Not sure how I will do this afternoon, but planning to cook a stirfry with rice, vegi mince and tomatos.

Octopus37 Sun 28-Apr-13 17:04:55

Also just eaten half a teaser bar and a Cadburys' egg and spoon (obviously not the spoon), prob about 300 calls in total.

teaandthorazine Sun 28-Apr-13 18:55:05

It is tough when time's limited. I WOTH full time, have kids, limited budget. There are days ( sometimes whole weekends!) when it's just easier to fall face down into crap, convenience food. Tbh, this weekend has been one of those, so please don't think I'm preaching at you.

But...the thing that I've tried to get my head around is how incredibly important it is to not feed yourself utter shite all the time. Not so you'll lose weight, or get into a bikini or any short-term media-led bollocks like that. But because actually that's what you owe yourself, and your body. Don't feed yourself processed crap all the time, because it's not what you deserve. It's not what your body wants, or needs. It's definitely not what your body functions best on.

You don't feel better after eating a Cadburys egg and spoon, do you? I mean, come on! It's not food, it's a marketing toy! Not only that, but the sugar will make you want more, and more, and more. It is addictive. That's why 'cutting down' is so hard, because with sugar, it's kind of all or nothing...

Don't worry about counting calories (that way madness, and bad food choices, lies IMO). Try to focus on eating real food. If it's advertised on tv, you don't need it, that's a pretty good rule of thumb... Though your fresh soup idea sounds good. The fewer ingredients, the better. You will lose weight, and more importantly you will feel loads better.

God, sorry. I'll stop lecturing now smile

Octopus37 Sun 28-Apr-13 20:57:18

iI know you're right, just difficult to put into practice. Really admire you if you find time to cook properly all the time, whilst balancing everything else, know I sound lazy. Its true about marketing, just that to be honest I cannot get past seeing chocolate etc as nice food and as a treat. For me, a big part of it is getting past comfort eating cause I am tired and wound up which I am doing my best to do. Onwards and downwards.
Ate my rice and vegi mince stir fry for lunch and some pineapple afterwards.

DeckSwabber Sun 28-Apr-13 22:03:38

Hi Octupus. I appreciate it is hard with a young child and work. Been there etc. When you are tired it is easy to reach for the sugary snacks. I try not to keep chocolate, biscuits, crisps or sweets in the house. My kids can have ice cream which I can usually resist as it comes out after dinner when I'm not hungry. I work FT now with three teens and I get by with careful menu planning and occasional cook-ups to stock the freezer.

Have you thought about fasting to break the cravings? I wouldn't have believed this until I tried it myself but I fasted twice last week (trying the 5:2 diet) and can't believe how it has disrupted the bad food habits. Its like resetting your body. On my non fast days I haven't felt hungry and haven't craved sweet things - its like my body is telling me what I need and for once I can hear it.

Octopus37 Mon 29-Apr-13 07:21:28

Have thought about the 5:2 diet, but I feel awful if I don't eat and also think that I would eat loads on non fast days and convince myself that I could eat whatever I wanted to compensate. Think that answer is just to carry on with cutting back, but do more cooking from scratch. I know my food diary doesn'tlook too great, but I know I have been eating less than usual and also have managed to stay off the crisps which hasn't been too difficult.

DeckSwabber Mon 29-Apr-13 17:37:45

Weirdly, I haven't wanted to eat more food on non-fast days. I wasn't expecting that - I was expecting to want to stuff myself!

Octopus37 Mon 29-Apr-13 18:12:36

Today have eaten:
1 pack of belvita biscuits
1 muller corner
Carton of Asda fresh Carrot, ginger & Orange soup
5 almonds
2 oreo cookies
1 creme egg
Pasta with quorn frankfurters, sweetcorn and red pesto

Not great I know. Was a bit worried about posting as I know it seems as if I'm not helping my own case but I am finding that writing down what I eat helps me to keep perspective and feel in control. Haven't given up on trying to make changes, still off the crisps - will weigh in on Wednesday and see if I have lost anything

DeckSwabber Tue 30-Apr-13 08:17:25

Good luck today, *Octopus.

ExcuseTypos Tue 30-Apr-13 08:38:46

Octopus do keep posting your food diary, it is obviously helping you so don't be put off. It's hard to change everything overnight, so if this works for you then keep going.

I think you're doing great to have cut out crisps. I used to be a crisp fiend- they are my favourite "treat" and I managed to weaned myself off them, so I know how hard it is- well done.

I think if you could think about a different breakfast, at some point, that would make a huge difference to sugar cravings in the mornings. I think a bit of protein is meant to be very good for keeping away sugar cravings, so if you don't like eggs- maybe a plain yoghurt and a slice of toast, or yoghurt and fruit. I've had slices of cheese some mornings, with some fruit. It really does fill you up.

Anyway keep going! Lots of people know they need to change eating habits and do nothing, so well done to you for actually doing somethingthanks.

Octopus37 Tue 30-Apr-13 12:40:57

Thank you for the encouragement, I am definately not giving up.

Think you are right about a different breakfast, was thinking two pieces of toast (I like the Warnbutons Seeded) with a cheese slice (was going to try and get some lerjamber lights). Know thats processed but it will enable me to control how much cheese easily, also quick to make and this is something I have always found to be a satisfying lunch.

Weighed in at Boots today, unfortunately up a pound so 1 pound lost in total, five pounds to go till my goal weight. Have eaten:

1 pack of belvita biscuits
Muller corner
Container of Asda mediterranean veg soup, absolutely gorgeous and only 186 cals for the lot
5 salted almonds

Realistically will probably eat some chocolate on teh school run. Planning on pasta with tuna for tea and intend to leave it at that.

FiftyshadesofYoni Tue 30-Apr-13 12:44:38

Just wanted to say well done on the crisps, I take my hat to you, and also keep posting , sounds like its helping you and thats what matters

Octopus37 Tue 30-Apr-13 20:14:16

Ate 7 Yorkie man sized chocolate buttons on teh school run (about 200 cals) and pasta with tuna for lunch. Have also just eaten two activia snack pots which I shouldn't have done. Might give the 5:2 diet a go next week.

PinkCustard Tue 30-Apr-13 21:17:40

Well done Octopus. I'm really struggling with my bad eating habits at the moment too and you've inspired me to make a change as of tomorrow. My aim is for 3 balanced meals and to save one treat until the evening if I need it - as opposed to eating sweet snacks and biscuits throughout the day like I usually do.

Have also given up alcohol, initially for a month, so that will help me with unhealthy snacking too.

Keep going, and well done so far x

Octopus37 Wed 01-May-13 12:40:14

Today, have eaten:
Cheese sandwhich, comprising two slices of Warbutons granary bread and 1 slice of lerjammer light cheese
Carton of Tesco Tomato and Chilli soup
10 almonds

Octopus37 Wed 01-May-13 17:51:39

Have also eaten:

1 ice cream Mars bar
A Tescos feta and olive slice with some potato wedges
An Activia snack pot yoghurt

Know my weight loss has only been a pound and know it will be slow as I'm not looking to lose loads, but for the first time today feel a bit trimmer

Octopus37 Wed 01-May-13 20:45:02

Have also just eaten some olives (prob about 12), but they weren't in oil.

Octopus37 Thu 02-May-13 19:14:18

Today:
1 pack of Belvita biscuits
1 Activia snackpot
1 sandwhich made with two slice of warbutons seeded and 1 slice of lerjhammer cheese light
10 almonds
A Teaser bar
pasta with a tomato and chilli sauce and vegi meatballs

Octopus37 Thu 02-May-13 20:08:44

Have just eaten 9 aero bubbles (145 cals). Will take a will of iron not to eat them all. Onwards and downwards.

Octopus37 Fri 03-May-13 18:42:24

Today:
1 pack of Belvita biscuits
1 Activia snackpot
Salt & Vinegar squares crisps (about 100 cals worth)
Cheese sandwich, made with two slices of Warbutons seeded and a slice of lerjammer light
1 Kelloggs caramel rice crispies square
A Tescos Moroccan crisp bake and some McCain Caribbean wedges, a couple of curly fries
Aim to not eat any more today, but feeling very tired, drained and wound up due to kids tbh. Onwards and downwards, plan to weigh in on Tuesday to see if I have lost anythng.

Octopus37 Fri 03-May-13 20:25:54

Just having a cadburys highlights hot chocolate, just want to eat and eat today, but really trying to fight it.

DeckSwabber Sat 04-May-13 09:28:12

Octopus, can you eat eggs? I wonder if you are getting enough protein.. Also if you are vegetarian you might not be getting enough iron, hence the tiredness. Leafy green veg?

specialsubject Sat 04-May-13 13:57:02

has anyone said how terrible this food intake is? OP, if you have an eating disorder please get help. If you don't:

you say you are a veggie. I can't see any decent veg in this.
you are eating a lot of sugary rubbish; the Activia yogurt, the biscuits, the cakes, the fatty fries, the ready meal (sugar and fat), the sugary 'breakfast biscuits', the sugary low-fat cheese.

almost no decent carbs: two slices of wholemeal bread, that's it.

if you always eat like this you are lacking most basic nutrients. No wonder you feel like death warmed up.

please, please throw away all diet food, it is ALL a con. Low fat means high sugar. Yogurt does have calcium but most brands are high in sugar.

and please, please eat some veg, some protein, some complex carbs, something fresh. Don't do faddy diets (5:2, Atkins, anything that involves paying out money. Do this:

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Goodfood/Pages/eatwell-plate.aspx

2000 calories a day, 40% good carbs.

move for half an hour a day and then you can have sweets or cakes. If you eat more sweets or cakes, move more.

please think of your kids.

good luck.

Octopus37 Sat 04-May-13 14:34:05

I appreciate the advice and what you are saying. No I don't have an eating disorder, I did have nearly 20 years ago and cause of that I will always have to fight binging a bit which I manage to do. Maybe it doesn't seem like it to everybody, but in view of a busy lifestyle (not saying I am a special case btw), I am doing my best.

Today I have eaten:
1 pack of Belvita biscuits
1 Activia yoghurt
1 Greggs Bombay veg roll (250 cals, they are new)
10 Almonds
I'm going out to a friend's house later, so will prob have a bit of a treat.
I've decided against doing the 5:2 diet for now as I think it will make me feel rough cause I do do a lot of walking, mainly out of necessity as I don't drive.
My weight loss has been 3 pounds so far, taking me down to 8st3, want to lose 3 more pounds then stabilise. I know if I go below 8st I look too old, people have told me this before, which is not great when I am heading towards 40.

Mrsrobertduvall Sat 04-May-13 14:52:39

Agree with special subject, that is really poor eating.
Processed crap, lack of fruit and veg.
You only weigh 8 st so unless you are two feet tall cannot be huge.

I am doing 2 day diet but not the fasting one....I've lost 5 ibs in 3 weeks and am not hungry at all.

teaandthorazine Sat 04-May-13 16:05:06

Hang on, have just re-read this. You're 5'5" and want to weigh 8 stone? Why?

I have a busy lifestyle. 99% of us on here do. You are trying to suggest you're a special case, actually. We're all juggling work, kids, money, home, partners. We all find eating properly tough, making sensible choices, finding the time to cook, etc. Sometimes we manage it, sometimes we don't. But you are making an awful lot of excuses.

I'm going to try and be kind and suggest that maybe you have fallen into the trap of 'as long as it's not meat, it's ok'. I think that can happen when you eat veggie. But you're a veggie who doesn't even eat veggies! I really hope you have strong ethical reasons for being veggie, and not health reasons because...well...I think you can see where I might go with that one...

I agree with everything special subject says. And, you know, everything everyone else has said. Dump the low-fat, sugar-laden SHITE and the sodding breakfast biscuits. Please. Eat some vegetables, and some fruit. Get some protein. No one is suggesting you have to start getting up at 4 am and baking your own bread or get 3 home-cooked meals on the table day after day but, for the sake of your health (mental and physical), eat some actual FOOD.

worried90 Sat 04-May-13 20:49:12

Still under NC but I don't know if this will help. I had a chocolate/cake problem. Could eat far too much in one go, was constantly hungry and had low blood sugar so would eat to feel less shaky (vicious circle)
I dumped all sugar and pretty much all carbs. Yes, the first 3 days weren't good but I stuck with it
My entire body shape has changed, I lost 9kg and continuing. Inches off my waist
A typical day for me (and my PT tells me I still don't eat enough)
Scrambled eggs or omelette for breakfast (with butter and spring onions/cheese)
Salad and feta for lunch or soup
Protein shake after work out
Nuts as a snack
Stew/casserole/fish/other protein for tea with sweet potato (mashed with butter) and more veg
I had to spit out dark chocolate because it tasted vile shock and strawberries are like pure nectar to me now. My energy soared, I can train harder in the gym, my blood sugar is stable. I eat virtually no processed food. Also drink 3L water a day
Once a week I have ONE treat meal of whatever I want (pizza, syrup sponge) grin I pay for it the next day with a horrendous stomach and go straight back on the wagon

worried90 Sat 04-May-13 20:51:02

Forgot to add I also have tendency to binge eat. Start by taking a decent multi vitamin everyday and its nearly summer so look at some fruit for a sugar hit if you want, melon, strawberries, raspberries

Octopus37 Sat 04-May-13 21:33:28

To be honest, I have decided thats its probably for the best that I don't post on this thread anymore. I appreciate and I am taking on board some of the advice that has been given, for example more protein etc. I know I am not perfect, but I am trying to work with what is sustainable for me without getting in the diet mode and getting too obsessive. I'm sure lots of people could do far better, but lets face it if everyone was completley sorted about food, weight etc, there would be no need for this board. I'm also reaslistic about my weight, the reason I need to be quite low is cause I am small boned and extra weight shows very easily. I cannot help feeling that people aren't as hard on people on this board who have far worse eating/lifestyle habits than me and who are considerably more unhealthy. All in all, think its better that I walk away now, but I am not going to be discouraged from trying to improve.

worried90 Sat 04-May-13 21:56:06

Definitely don't be discouraged. Even if you only make one change a week and keep it up. I work full time and find prep is the biggest thing, and making sure to have easy to grab things in as well as stuff like fresh soup/batch cook that you can just heat and eat
Good luck

forevergreek Sat 04-May-13 22:12:16

All it sounds like is advice has been given here

Where do you get all the chocolate from? Can't you just not buy it to not tempt yourself?
I'm sorry but it's not healthy at all, and def won't help loose or maintain weight. You feel hungry because there is t much to each meal in the day, from your listing I can't even see meals some days just snacks

Biscuits for breakfast- just have any other normal breakfast will be better! Something like weetabix take 2 mins to eat. Scrambled egg in a mug, 2 mins in microwave.

Fat free yogurt - is a joke. They take the natural fat out and replace with extra sugar or aspartame . Just each natural /Greek yogurt full fat

Gregge/ pastrys/ toast for lunch- really? That's just sugar in disguise or plain carbs - almost anything is better. What about a houmous/ tuna/ salad sandwich? Or some soup? Ready made salad? Combo

Highlights hot choc= sugar and water. At least just buy some decent cocoa if you are going to drink it

All the sugary/ refined choc- that is a huge amount. If you really really can't go a day without then try darker chocolate. Generally the higher the cocoa content the less sugar

Veg and fruit needed as barely there. I would look online at all the types of food you can eat that are easy/ quick with high protein etc to keep you away from sugar.

I know you say time is a factor, but it is for many. I have the same problems. However I can still prep and eat a healthy breakfast/ lunch in 5/10 mins if needed. It isnt gourmet but scrabbled egg/ beans are 2 mins in microwave, porridge 2 mins if soak overnight, cereal seconds to pour, etc. soup ready made is 2 mins, ready made salad, mix in tin fish, add an avocado are all mins to prep.

teaandthorazine Sun 05-May-13 09:13:52

Octopus, I think we've all just tried to offer advice. If it's sometimes come across a bit harshly then maybe that's because posters have been genuinely quite shocked by what you've posted. People don't tend to mince their words on anonymous Internet forums....

I completely understand that you don't want to get obsessive and go into 'diet mode'. That's totally fair enough. Things is, you're already very very slim and actually teetering on the brink of underweight, so probably 'dieting' shouldn't be on your radar at all. Your focus should, imo, be on eating better food. If you did this, not only would those last few pounds fall off naturally, but you would also Feel Better, which I'm tempted to suggest is at the root of this thread anyway.

You've said in many of your posts that you are exhausted, stressed, wound up etc. I promise you that a change in eating habits, a focus on fresh, real food instead of crappy processed snacks, would do a lot to help that. You say you eat loads and are always tempted to binge. That's partly because you eat foods that send your blood sugar crazy, which makes you crave crap and feel crap. It's a vicious circle.

You're absolutely right, we are none of us perfect. I'm sorry if you've been upset by this thread but I hope you will be able to take something useful from it.

Trenchcoat Sun 05-May-13 10:20:43

Op people here aren't having a go at you. Even though it probably doesn't feel like it people are actually trying help. I do think your tiredness Is down to your diet.

My food intake used to be very similar to yours. I put on extra weight over Christmas and was constantly feeling tired with no energy whatsoever. I used to go back to bed most days as I just couldn't function properly.
Also I was bloated a lot of the time and had problems with my stomach.

I knew I had to tackle my eating habits and try to get rid of the extra weight. Like you I am small in height and build and any extra shows straight away. Crisps and bread were my biggest downfall.

I didn't class it as a diet as I've never been able to stick to a diet ever, so I concentrated changing the way I eat. I loosely followed low carb.
I cut out bread, pasta, potatoes and rice completely. Cut down dramatically on high sugar foods like chocolate, cake, sweets, bisuits etc.
Also meant crisps were out as were anything like pasties and sausage rolls.
I eat lots of chicken, fish, salad, eggs, soup and veg. If I had a sweet craving I would have fruit or a yoghurt in the beginning. But now I don't really have sweet cravings at all. I haven't had crisps for a couple of months and I really don't miss them.
I lost the extra 7 lbs in no time at all.
I am no longer bloated or tired the amount of energy I have is fantastic (haven't felt this good in years!!) , Also my stomach problems have subsided.

The couple of times I did give in and had a takeaway or unhealthy meal out that included lots of carbs I found that I would be hungry a couple of hours later even though I couldn't possibly need any more food. Also I did indeed feel like crap the next day with a horrible pains in my stomach. Also anything high in salt really affects me as well.
I know now that when I am hungry I am genuinely hungry and its no longer a carb craving

I don't think I will ever go back to eating bread and rice (these affect me more)and If I do go back to Pasta and potatoes it will be very limited as they do make me want to eat more. I still have chocolate or cake every now and again

If you try and take on some of the advice that has already been given, you will honestly feel better.
It sounds like you know what you have to do but as i know making those changes isn't always easy. You have to get yourself in the right mind set and if you haven't got that you wont be successful.
You have already started off with small changes to your diet, keep that up and do one thing at a time, rather than cut everything out all at once. A healthier diet honestly will give you more energy.

But Good Luck with however you choose to do it.

DeckSwabber Mon 06-May-13 08:45:33

Octopus I am sorry you feel that people haven't been supportive.

It takes guts and determination to tackle lifestyle changes and I think people have been trying to help with a mixture of what works for them - a bit of encouragement, a bit of chivvying, and some advice. Most of us are on this Topic if we didn't want some support ourselves.

Good luck.

CoteDAzur Mon 06-May-13 09:28:42

OP - Your diet sounds like it is composed almost entirely of processed foods and biscuits/treats. Have you tried cooking your own meals at all? It doesn't have to take long and is guaranteed to pull you out of this vicious circle of sugar binging/hunger/sugar binging/hunger...

Could someone tell me what 'small boned' means?

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