Calling all Chiefs who Choose Their Hard

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DoubleMum Fri 01-Mar-13 18:13:06
DoubleMum Fri 01-Mar-13 18:15:08

Sorry I didn't have a clue what to call this one, but the last one was 2 posts away from closing so thought I'd better start this. I expect we can change the title if everyone hates it!

BsshBossh Fri 01-Mar-13 19:22:01

Hurrah, logging in to say the dreaded "marking place" grin

BsshBossh Fri 01-Mar-13 19:22:25

grin grin fail

Yo Chiefs!

Looking forward to more big losers, tales of Jillian and the shred-bots, looser clothing, fasting, calorie counting and general sharing and supporting in the journey from Chief to hotty! Along with meals out, minor indiscretions, general boozing and tales of family life grin

Mmmmm. It's Friday night and I have Gin!

BsshBossh Fri 01-Mar-13 19:55:31

It's Friday night and I have a mug of hot Marmite drink hmm. Why? I may not be logging but even I can sense that after my Maccy D lunch it would be wise not to now reach for the crisps. Especially as the weekend's begun and this means two days of eating out and social eating.

DoubleMum Fri 01-Mar-13 20:11:12

It's Friday night and I have a glass of water ...
Brill that you're self-regulating now Bssh!

RandallPinkFloyd Fri 01-Mar-13 20:12:54

Lovely new thread Double!

And wise your birthday sounds perfect smile

dinkydoos Fri 01-Mar-13 20:17:12

Friday night... But fasting. Exceptionally dull! But didn't get chance to get the second one in this week!
Have sourdough bread all lined up though for some lovely toast in the morning grin
Think I am a bit more jealous of your drink tea than yours double and bssh !!

BsshBossh Fri 01-Mar-13 20:22:06

dinky grin

juneybean Fri 01-Mar-13 20:33:15

Tis a fab thread title grin

bleedingheart Fri 01-Mar-13 22:06:27

Fab title!
I'll join you with a glass of water Double!

SylviaDaisyPouncer Sat 02-Mar-13 00:08:11

Found you!

Great titlesmile

I forgot to weigh this morning (another long night with dd), so will have to do it tomorrow. Been to a birthday party this evening, it was lovely but too much to eat and drink.

Good news though, I can do up 2 of 3 pairs of jeans from before I had dd! They are still rather tight on the hips and bum but they DO UP!

I will read what's been going on with everyone in the morning, brain is a little cloudy (nothing to do with the drink I'm sure!)

DoubleMum Sat 02-Mar-13 08:50:07

Ooh well done Sylvia, that's fab (the jeans not the cloudy brain)!
Bleeding that's about the sum total of my friday nights, a glass of water. If I'm lucky it's chilled. If I really push the boat out I might have ice cubes.
Have had some baby bunny cuddles this morning but after feeding them we're supposed to leave them alone for the rest of the day to settle. DD has been promised she can get them out at 4pm and is counting down the time. They're so cute! A day of homework awaits.

WiseKneeHair Sat 02-Mar-13 09:14:42

Morning Chiefs.
Great thread title Double
I had a lovely birthday dinner last night, lovely, lovely food and drink and my handsome DH to spend it with grin
I've logged it all <shines halo> and reckon I'm only about 400 over for the day, so very pleased.
I would love to cuddle a baby bunny, sounds super cute.
Well done on doing up your trousers Sylvia
I'm not jealous of anyone's drinks as I had lots of wine last night and may not need any more for a little while now. I couldn't decide between a champagne cocktail or a G&T as an aperitif last night, but was saved as they did a champagne and gin cocktail grin
Back to reality and healthy eating today.

DoubleMum Sat 02-Mar-13 10:25:57


juneybean Sat 02-Mar-13 10:52:28

Going out for a friends birthday lunch today, so it might be a write off but will be more careful tomorrow!

Herecomesbod Sat 02-Mar-13 12:26:58

Afternoon all. Fab thread title Double, and loving the idea of baby bunny cuddles.

Sylvia great news about the jeans, you must be well chuffed.

Glad you had a great night Wise, cocktails sound luscious.

We're starting our veg bed this weekend. DH is busy doing some sort of complicated chart about what's being planted when. Am more bothered about whether anything will actually grow! Honestly I think we're starting to sound like Tom and Barbara <officially middle-aged>.

Have great weekends all.

Lizzylou Sat 02-Mar-13 12:37:58

Great thread title!

Sylvia, yay to jeans.
Double, am envy of baby bunny cuddles.
Wise, sounds a wonderful night out.

I have lost 2lbs! At bloody last I am 10lbs down. Only 18lbs to go!

Have a friend and her son (DS1's best mate) coming round for pizza and sleepover (with wine and gin for the adults) so need to clean and perhaps fit a shred in to gain some leeway.
Have swam with very competitive DS1 whilst lazy messer DS2 hung off the side during his lesson. DS1 is nearly 9 and is a way better swimmer than me envy

SylviaDaisyPouncer Sat 02-Mar-13 13:06:37

Dd slept last night! Okay she had a late night as we were out but a decent amount of sleep is fantastic for all of us!

Half a pound off for me but its a loss so going in the right direction.

Well done on the 2lbs lizzylou smile

bod we have been getting the veg garden organised. Just hoping for some sunshine later in the year, all the rain last year ruined a lot of our poor veggies. Perhaps I am getting old but get satisfaction from growing our own fruit and veg.

juney hope you had a lovely lunch.

Right back to the chores, my washing pile seems to be out of control!

Have a great Saturday everyone.

DoubleMum Sat 02-Mar-13 14:22:00

Well done Lizzy and Sylvia!
Herecomesbod last year was truly awful for fruit and veg, although I seem to recall raspberries and similar did well, and I think green beans. Potato blight was rife. I'm not a grower (yet) but am a regular on the Old Style boards on MSE which is why I noticed.

Herecomesbod Sat 02-Mar-13 15:43:41

* Sylvia* and Double we're treating this year's planting as an experiment, so anything that grows successfully will be a bonus. Hopefully we can get DD interested too as we've set aside a small patch for her to try sunflowers and a few other bits. Some sun would be nice this year...

DoubleMum Sat 02-Mar-13 16:01:50

Herecomesbod if you have time you might find it useful to have a nosey around this board

Lizzy and Sylvia brilliant stuff. Yey. Well done.

Lizzy sounds like a good night ... Pizza and wine. Yum.

Impressed with the Percy Throwers on the thread. I wish I was so inclined. I'm more of a slash and burn type gardener blush

I had a sneaky weigh in after missing Thursday's and I've stuck at the same weight again but quite happy with that as I'm now getting used to a non-linear loss. Hoping by next Thursday there will be another loss.

MrGeresHamster Sat 02-Mar-13 22:26:59

Loving all the gardening going on. I too am not green fingered nor do I have a garden in which to grow... but it sounds so satisfying to be able to grow your own food. For some reason I imagine that the food tastes better knowing that you nurtured it.

Feeling a bit poo. Having now lost 18 pounds I've realised that not one person has noticed. This means that I am chubster enough for this to just be a drop in the ocean. Pointed this out to DH who said that he's noticed, somehow doesn't seem the same to have to prompt it out of him... sad

I'm doing this for myself though so it shouldn't matter... but still. So my hard tonight is that it's hard to keep going when I'm not skinny after two months of dieting. I've never been skinny. I'd love to try it out.

MrGere, not necessarily. In my experience, I've lost almost 4 stone in the last three years, people will notice but don't want to be rude by commenting on it. So you might get some "you're looking well"s and "you look good"s but not much else. It's only in the last few weeks people are commenting on my weight loss - when I'm actually at the end of the journey - and that's only because I'm telling them I'm loosing and what I'm doing. They then respond with a you do look thinner type comment. People just don't want to offend. Particularly, if your previous "size" is due to a baby. Not sure if that's the case for you.

Don't take it to heart. If you want positive feedback be open about what you've achieved.

But can I just say I think you look fabulous. grin

DoubleMum Sun 03-Mar-13 07:41:28

MrGere you could be me, even down to level of weight loss. Mind you I have to say even I can't tell where it's come off from in the mirror, it's a bit of a mystery. Let's just keep going, and sooner or later it will become blindingly obvious.
Forced by my DD to get up early and feed the bunnies today "because it's light outside". She'd better not still be doing this in the summer when it gets light at 4.30 am.

MrGeresHamster Sun 03-Mar-13 10:47:13

Unfortunately not baby weight, I was somewhat lucky not to have put on much in pregnancy and lost it during breast feeding. I expect my body realised I had plenty in reserve.

I'm feeling better this morning, partly due to less gin in the system. At least I (and you) know I'm losing the weight. ...and its my health which is important rather than vanity. I bought a pair of jeans in the early bloating stages of pregnancy which have been grown out of and my pre pregnancy jeans are getting decidedly more baggy.

Early morning bunny feeding sounds fun, but you're right small doses, you don't want to do it every morning.

Herecomesbod Sun 03-Mar-13 10:48:19

Double many thanks for the link, lots of threads to get sucked into ponder.

MrGere if you've been losing weight slowly but steadily it might not have been obvious to those who don't see you regularly. I think people are generally a bit reticent to ask if you've lost weight, in case of causing offence. I'd be tempted to tell people!

Am so glad this thread's still going strong, it's really keeping me motivated smile

MrGeresHamster Sun 03-Mar-13 10:48:21

Oh and Thank you Tea, that made me smile grin

DoubleMum Sun 03-Mar-13 11:01:08

I'm not going to tell people I'm losing weight until I've lost loads and it should be blooming obvious!

RandallPinkFloyd Sun 03-Mar-13 11:49:03

Don't worry about it MrsGere I've lamented about the same thing on here many times. I've now lost 25lb since this thread was started 7 weeks ago and not one fucker has noticed angry

I tell myself it's because I was so good at hiding how fat I'd got rather than the fact that I look no sodding different!

I'm going to stay with a friend from wed to sat this week so am going to try a sort of 5:2 type thing again so I don't have to worry about calorie counting whilst I'm there. I don't see her very often so there's no way I'm wasting what little time I have there by obsessing about dieting. The booze he food shall flow freely, I'll deal with the consequences when I get back.

RandallPinkFloyd Sun 03-Mar-13 11:50:11

(I should add, in defence of my friends, that I haven't mentioned a thing about dieting to a singe soul!)

SylviaDaisyPouncer Sun 03-Mar-13 17:50:40

MrsGere like the others said I think people don't like to say anything incase they cause offence. Saying that, I have said to a couple of people recently they look great and have lost some weight. Both were pleased someone had noticed. Just think how fantastic we will all be when we reach our goals!

I have had a few negative comments about losing weight, like "oh you won't ever get back to pre baby shape" and "you are older now so it's going to be hard." That's why I'm so glad I found you Chiefs, your support is fan-blooming-tastic!

Had a good couple of days, going to be a little meagre with the calories tomorrow as its ds birthday Tuesday so we will be out for a meal and of course, having birthday cake!

Randall have a lovely few days away, sounds like you will have a great time.

Off to do all the usual Sunday bits before work and School tomorrow. Enjoy the rest of the day everyonesmile

Lizzylou Sun 03-Mar-13 18:25:39

Lovely night last night, was very controlled with the pizza, not so much on the wine blush

DH has come home with worst case of manflu ever.

Had a lovely lunch for DS's birthday tomorrow, seafood risotto and birthday cake. We are all stuffed.

You are all doing amazingly well, truly.

DoubleMum Sun 03-Mar-13 18:48:17

Just had a lovely steak and (oven) chips, and ate too much really, I can feel it. Which is progress I guess.
Randall have a lovely time away.

DoubleMum Mon 04-Mar-13 10:05:24

Morning Chiefs! My DCs have left a box of turkish delight on the counter and it's calling to me. Must resist. Especially since one measly piece seems to be about 70 cals.

Tabbykat Mon 04-Mar-13 11:10:19

Step away from the Turkish delight! Am trying to be good this week as DDs will prob make some kind of cake and/or chocs next weekend for Mother's Day and would be rude not to at least try it!
Luckily a bit quieter with work this week which is good - I work at home and when deadlines are manic tend to reach for the biscuits.

DoubleMum Mon 04-Mar-13 11:24:22

Tabby I need to make a cake tomorrow, but it's for DH's work's 'Cake Wednesday' so I can't eat any of it.
I think the Turkish Delight is safe from me. I don't seem to eat before lunchtime anyway now, I'm not hungry.

Morning Chiefs.

I'm on cake duty today as DS2 is 11 tomorrow and I'm doing him a selection of cupcakes on a stand. And as Tabby says it would be rude not too grin

Fasting again today <sigh>

Hope you had fun Randall

Mmmmmm seafood risotto - sounds delish.

Today, as I reached a certain birthday milestone last year, I have been for a health check to see whether I'm likely to have a heart attack, kidney disease, stroke or diabetes. All the results, so far, look healthy - going to get others next week. So thanks Chiefs. My results are much, much better than they would have been in December. Interestingly I'm an inch taller than I have ever been before confused. Not sure whether all the exercise has loosened off my muscles so I'm taller but it is very odd. I will need to recalculate my goals/BMI as a result.

I think loosing weight is a strange thing, WRT other's people's comments, I'm being open about what I'm doing this time (I wasn't on the last slog as I was so embarrassed at my size) and I'm getting a lot of "be careful" and "don't waste away to nothing" when actually I could still lose another 1.5 stone and be classified as healthy for my height. I think part of it is, based on how I have felt when others have lost weight, is that when someone else is making the effort and getting results it really makes you question your own position so there can be a bit of defensiveness in other's responses. I also hid behind the same clothes for three stone and it wasn't until I invested in new clothes that people saw the new me ....

I have had a bra intervention and I'm a little shocked! By their calculations I'm a 30E .... I think I'm a 34C .... so I am going to do some trying on of new bras. I will be reporting back as to whether it makes me look thinner (after all it all helps wink)

DoubleMum Mon 04-Mar-13 11:43:36

Tea what is a bra intervention? I dread to think actually, given the age and state of some of my bras.

A group of MNtters who are trying to make sure that we wear the right sized bras.

It's Really Interesting

And, along with many others, I am wearing the wrong size. I'm off to check out the new sizing later today.

RandallPinkFloyd Mon 04-Mar-13 12:35:34

I think my chest flaps are beyond intervention!

Well done on getting so healthy Tea, that's the important bit isn't it. I mean wee all go on about how we look but it's health that matters. I need to tell myself that a lot more often.

Randall feck that, it's all about how big my ass looks in a pair of jeans and whether I have rolls of stomach! Health appears to be an added benefit. <weeps at the idea of being skinny and tall>

RandallPinkFloyd Mon 04-Mar-13 12:52:47


DoubleMum Mon 04-Mar-13 13:28:11

OMG do we have to change height as well?! What I would give for a few inches of height. At least half my boob size for a start. I shall have a look at that thread Tea but it doesn't make much difference when I inevitably find I'm wearing the wrong size as I can't afford to buy clothes until I absolutely have to which is hopefully because I've lost at least 3 dress sizes.

Lizzylou Mon 04-Mar-13 19:42:55

Tea, that is fab re: health tests. And extra inch of height.
I had my bra intervention 2 yrs ago, mainly due to mn. Went in thinking I was 38dd, came out 34gg. Makes you look slimmer though, better fitting bra.

Dh very not well this eve. Went to work but has come home and thrown up. Can't be my cooking. Oh no.

MrGeresHamster Mon 04-Mar-13 19:44:23

Oh I'd happily take an inch or two in height!

I'm with you DoubleMum on the clothes front. No buying till I'm properly skinny (or at least way on the way there).

DoubleMum Mon 04-Mar-13 21:09:56

I'm only 5"2 so if any of you who don't actually need this extra height could donate it to me I'd be very grateful. Imagine being 10 stone lighter and 4 inches taller, LOL!

dinkydoos Tue 05-Mar-13 13:54:33

Hello chiefs!
Still here, still 5:2 ing. Weight so fluctuates on that though, so haven't really been logging it on mfp.
But this is my 4 th week I have just started and i think I am around 4 lb down. I really don't mind doing it tbh, it's just so nice not to have to continually worry about calorie counting! Hope you all don't mind me extolling virtues of 5:2 on this thread, but really can't be arsed to join a new thread, and some of that thread can get a bit scary militant.... grin
Am on holiday in 4 weeks and really fancy some new summery clothes ( will be hot). Advice wise chiefs? You know, clothes that will make me look like Ella McPherson style mum, not haggard old mum....

RandallPinkFloyd Tue 05-Mar-13 15:43:39

Well, another 2.6lb off. If I can do the same this week that would be my second stone. However, seeing as I'm spending the rest of the week with my friend in Scotland (where we all know the diet consists of pie, deep fried stuff, and turnip) I think it's more likely to take another couple of weeks grin

Dinky it sounds like you're doing great. I'd log it if I were you, it may fluctuate but it would be nice for you to see the downward trend.

I'm too tall to add an extra 2 inches, I'd look like Guliver!

Herecomesbod Tue 05-Mar-13 16:00:08

Hello all. Weighed myself yesterday and have lost a stone since starting this in Jan, and 2 stone since DS was born in Oct. Must remember that when I start beating myself up about not losing the mum tum!

Dinky sounds like a good loss on the 5:2. I am fascinated by the idea of it but think it might not be for me while I'm still bfing. Maybe when I go back to work?

Randall 25 lbs in 7 weeks is amazing, you are doing so well. I know what you mean about the diet choices in Scotland. I spent 2 v. happy years working in Glasgow and basically living in a hotel . Sounds glamourous but actually I couldn't wait for a visit home to eat salad for a change grin

RandallPinkFloyd Tue 05-Mar-13 16:10:31

Well done here, 2 stone is fab, if when I get to that I'll be over the moon!

RandallPinkFloyd Tue 05-Mar-13 16:15:32

27.6lb in 8 wks now if you don't mind akshewally wink

DoubleMum Tue 05-Mar-13 17:16:51

LOL at the idea of me giving anyone clothes advice! I might fast today, given I've just realised I've only eaten a plum and a tbsp of choc cake mix today.

RandallPinkFloyd Tue 05-Mar-13 17:34:36

Blimey Double this 5:2 thing is really suiting you isn't it. Are you enjoying it?

Well enjoying is probably the wrong word but you know what I mean!

Yo Chiefs. Checking in.

Cor Dinky that's good work.

I know what you mean about the fluctuations. I'm finding it very confusing but as I'm measuring on Thursdays and record when there is a loss I think it's working out about the same as you're suggesting. Though it seems to come in fits and starts. I'm finding it a much better way to watch what I eat for me than calorie counting - I just don't have the willpower or lifestyle to stick with less than 1200 each day - which is what always seems to come back for me.

Ahhh. I had a new holiday wardrobe (if a bikini, skirt and dress count as such) last year for holidays and because I was thinner than I'd been for a while I felt super glam - right to the point the boys got to the pool. I spent most of the holiday hiding behind large sunnies pretending they were nothing to do with me (quite hard with them hanging off me) and shouting like a fish wife to leave each other alone. I notice that M&S and Debenhams have cruise wardrobes in at the moment - not much else going on for hot locations at the moment. I'm going to St Maarten for four days in a couple of weeks for a wedding so am having a similar problem trying to find something to wear. I will post links as I find things.

Here well done. That's really good going. And your baby isn't even five months - I didn't realise. Can you pass him over for me to sniff?

Randall you're a super loser. That really is impressive. Not far to go to get to 2 stone for you. Wow.

BsshBossh Tue 05-Mar-13 18:20:40

Just popping in to get you all on my Threads I'm On again and to say congrats on the losses Randall and Here. And welcome MrGere.

I'm still fasting (though doing 16 hr fasts each working day instead of 24 hrs twice a week); really enjoying it and the longish fasting period is melting my tummy fat like nothing else! I guess the body has no other fuel but fat to burn when you go without food for 12 or more hours. Not logging again though.

Deadlines coming and going so hopefully will be able to join in more here soon.

DoubleMum Tue 05-Mar-13 18:21:57

Randall I'm not actually doing 5:2 at the moment, I figured I'd lose more quickly just by calorie counting and that's what matters to me at the moment, but I do think it has affected my appetite (which can only be a good thing). Once I start eating though, I'm ravenous. And today has been rather a crap day which meant I hadn't planned dinner and have ended up making naan bread pizzas on the hop so not a fast day today after all.
Ooh St Maarten Tea!

dinkydoos Tue 05-Mar-13 19:29:04

randall you star! That is massively impressive! And you here!
Springtime skinnies a go go!
ooh tea wedding shopping, that's quite fun! Tell us all about what you want and we can play at being a style and beauty threadgrin

Herecomesbod Tue 05-Mar-13 19:58:14

Tea yep, he's 5 months tomorrow. You're very welcome to sniff him anytime you like! He's yummy (except when he smells of sour breast milk - mmm cheesy).

Your wedding trip to St Maarten sounds very glam, hope you find something super stylish to wear.

Bssh your 16 hr fasts sound like they're really working for you, especially melting the tummy fat <stares meaningfully at own muffin top>

Know what you mean about appetite/calorie counting Double. I figure I know this is working so will stick with it although have had some spectacular falls off the wagon. The bit I'm dreading is going back to work where I'm mainly at a desk or on the road and temptation is everywhere. I probably need some strategies to avoid being pulled the wrong way.

SylviaDaisyPouncer Tue 05-Mar-13 20:02:25


Well done on the losses everyonesmile

Ds birthday today, last year before he becomes a teenager! Was expecting to be well over calories yesterday and today but have done well. Today I only ate dinner as its been hectic getting everything ready for the birthday tea (and fantastic double choc and mint cake). Only had a small taste of the buttercream putting it on the cake! Feeling v bloated now.

Have been reading up on Couch 2 5k. Sounds very realistic over a 9 week period and not too frightening! Watch this space..

After reading earlier in the thread about bra sizes I am shocked to discover I am only a B cup! I always thought I was bigger so will be getting some nice new bras in the hope they make me look fabgrin

WiseKneeHair Tue 05-Mar-13 21:03:18

Evening all. I really need to post more often as I lost you all again.
Going to go and rip now, but will be back later to catch up.

RandallPinkFloyd Tue 05-Mar-13 21:10:47

Love the idea of the melting belly fat Bssh, my muffin top is more like a victoria sponge!

Very jealous of the holidays, and those naan bread pizzas look lovely.

(Can't think about double chocolate mint cake so I'm pretending I didn't read that.)

<sniffs baby*here*>


<gets broody>
<tells self not to be so silly>

I've had my expectations firmly set by DH that it won't be as glamorous as I'm imagining. I've never been anywhere like St Maarten on account of hating beaches, not having that sort of money and mostly coming from a long line of Celts I glow with whiteness! It's a fly in, watch wedding, fly out job. Dinks I like quirky and to be of the season. I want something that covers my corn beef and veiny legs but think it will be too hot for tights and spanx. I get sweaty armpits so silky is out of the question. I'm very pale with dark hair. And whilst I have grown an inch, I'm a foot shorter than my husband. And with all of those pieces of information i sound like a middle aged lady who should be dressing for comfort but is fighting it I have no fecking clue what to wearshock <sigh> I can't even work out what the local dress code is for weddings - it's family who live there.

Welcome back Wise, hope works going well

Sylvia one of my DS's was 11 today. Snap. grin Happy Birthday to him

BsshBossh Tue 05-Mar-13 22:34:36

Awww, happy birthday to the pre-teens smile

Sylvia I'm doing Couch to 5 k - up to week 4 now. I'm doing it on a treadmill because I have weak knees and I know it's harder to run outside (so the purists like my DH say, though he conveniently forgets that he started running on a treadmill - 6 months - before venturing outside!) but I'm really enjoying it. Dreading the big 20 minute run at the end of week 5 but think I may build up to that more slowly than C25K allows.

saintmerryweather Tue 05-Mar-13 22:36:34

I well done all of you who have lost weight, randall thats amazing!

I chose my hard, i chose to continue being fat sad i have GOT to do something about it though, i am now scared to find out how many lbs...4lb as of now. i need to lose 2 stone by my birthday in june so im back here now. i start every day with 2 weetabix and by dinnertime have scarfed down biscuits and maltesers. its just depressing to think.if id stuck with it i could be 25lbs down too!

RandallPinkFloyd Tue 05-Mar-13 22:51:00

Oh I've got a lot more than 2stone to lose saint!

I've still got another 18lb to go just to get into my healthy BMI. Plus I gained all my excess weight over the last year so I do think that the quicker and more recently it was gained the quicker it is to lose iyswim.

Get back on that bus, tomorrow's another day!

SylviaDaisyPouncer Tue 05-Mar-13 23:23:19

Tea happy Birthday to your ds too!

Can't believe it was 12 years ago I was in the ambulance being told not to push and hang on until we got to hospital!

Bssh I'm going to brave the streets for the C25k! But I live in a village so not many people will see me. I'm going to read through it all and hopefully start next week (need to gear myself up mentally)smile

saint you can do it! You want to do it and you have a goal to aim for. I'm new to the group so just starting this journey, but I do find logging my calories and having everyone on mfp so supportive. Don't be too down on yourself, new start tomorrow!

Lizzylou Wed 06-Mar-13 04:25:54

Hope all the DS's had a lovely birthday. Birthday season here too, DS2's Monday, DS1's next week. Lovely Spring babies.

St Maarten? Wow. I am the only one who had to google, right? Keycamp don't go there so I was a tad nonplussed blush

Did the first 30mins of Extreme Shred and shed last night (I can't see me getting to do whole 60mins often to be honest).
Erm, was a bit weird! No aches today and just a bit different format. Still worth doing though.

Wore pair of trousers that couldn't get into in January to work yesterday and had lots of compliments. Felt v good.

Everyone is doing so well, keep on loosing!

RandallPinkFloyd Wed 06-Mar-13 07:36:05

Yay to skinny trousers you fitness fiend you!

I'm signing off or the ret of the week now. Will try and log on MFP as accurately as I can.

Onwards and downwards chiefs!

DoubleMum Wed 06-Mar-13 07:48:19

My DS was 11 just recently too. Strangely he seems to be much nicer now he's a pre-teen!
Yesterday was a strange day, and I fell prey to the giant chocolate buttons I used to make DH's Cake Wednesday cake. I had plenty of cals left so it wasn't a disaster, but it also wasn't necessary and wouldn't have happened if they hadn't been there in front of me so a lesson to be learned I think. Also I know full well I can't just have 1, once you get the taste in your mouth that's it.

Lizzy Extreme Shred! Wow, that's very impressive. And skinny trousers grin - well done <whispers> you've just inspired me to google it - I now know where I'm going blush

So many spring birthdays. Lovely.

Saint welcome back. What's your handle on MFP? You can do it. Honestly I've got the willpower of a goldfish and by taking the long term view (weekly calories and 2:5ing) I've lost a stone. You can too. Just start logging for a couple of days to get your head back in the zone and see what happens.

Hurrah for Cto5k. I wish there was one to get me from 3to10km. I sort of feel to get the last half stone off I'm going to have to take up longer distance running as it's getting to the point where I'm starting to see little weight loss sad <crosses fingers that this week will be the one where I lose again.

Enjoy bonnie Scotland Randall

PS Double it doesn't last that long 12 YO DSS has started having 'moments' of what can only be described as tantrums. I have to admit I watched Child of Our Time gobsmacked at so many lovely youngsters being able to articulate themselves so well, hoping to pick up some tips.

SylviaDaisyPouncer Wed 06-Mar-13 11:17:38

Agree with the pre teen tantrums! Also have toddler tantrums from dd. and when they both have "moments" at the same time.....well it's just something else. They are either fantastic or dreadful, no middle ground.

Have been good so far, there is a huge chocolate cake in the kitchen and I have ignored it (I can smell it though). I don't need it and will resist. I don't actually want it which is a miracle for me. I'm not polishing my halo yet but may well be if I get to the end of the day with no picking!

It's ok to go up and take a sniff of it though isn't it? No calories in thatgrin

DoubleMum Wed 06-Mar-13 11:29:45

I missed the skinny trousers, that IS impressive. <faints at the thought of ever being described as skinny in the next 20 years>
Tea yes I had better make the most of this nice stage while it lasts!
Saint you can do it - friend us all on MFP and we'll hassle help you.

DoubleMum Wed 06-Mar-13 11:32:11

Sylvia I had a sniff of the choccy cake this morning. Luckily DH has taken it to work with him now - should have made him take the leftover chocolate & buttons too.
I don't want to hear about tantrumming teenagers <blocks ears>, I had DS (11) in floods of tears this morning as DD (7!!) had kicked him in the ear for being annoying. Difficult for her to get ready for school on the naughty step.

SylviaDaisyPouncer Wed 06-Mar-13 12:00:37

double poor ds that sounds painful.

Must be something about ears, I caught dd on ds back pulling his ears! Ds won't do anything to stop her incase he hurts her so it all gets a bit shouty here sometimes.

Ok must get lunch ready which means <whispers> going in the kitchen where that cake is. Will think of you all and resist temptation!

Lizzylou Wed 06-Mar-13 13:14:26

We still have cake left over from DS1's on Monday.
Have packaged it up and hidden it.

Today I am in a pencil skirt suit that I couldn't get into in January (sales purchase). Can get in it fine, looks OK (ish, with heels on). BUT

I just can't get up and down stairs in the damn thing! More work on my thighs is needed grin I am waddling like I have pooed myself blush

DoubleMum Wed 06-Mar-13 14:15:27

What an image Lizzy.
Have had a rather nice smoked mackerel salad, although I didn't realise quite how calorific it is. Must be all those good omega 3 oils.
An afternoon/evening of taxi-ing awaits. Wish it meant I actually had a social life but sadly not.


You're not meant to be able to walk in a pencil skirt except with very small steps - think that's why they're sexy because one waddles slinks about in them.

<snorts again because it is a waddle like you've pooed!>

Well done Lizzy

Fasting today ..... boooooo!

saintmerryweather Wed 06-Mar-13 16:17:09

Ive got you on mfp doublemum my name on there is gemin1eye. ive got 300 cals left for today but ill walk the dogs seperately tonight to.burn some off! Sticking with it this time, might buy a skirt ive got my eye on in a size 10 for motivation...deffo not a pencil skirt like lizzys!

DoubleMum Thu 07-Mar-13 07:31:13

Morning chiefs, my goal is to eat more veg today, have been a bit remiss lately.
On the plus side, I am wearing a pair of size smaller trousers! They even do up and everything! Might not be able to eat much though ...

kalidanger Thu 07-Mar-13 07:48:29

Bleurgh. Met a friend for drinky-winks (!) last night and threw 1000+ calories down my gullet. Beer AND wine, then chips (there's a couple on the carpet) with coleslaw apparently. Was so proud of getting a handle on my calorie intake but basically I'm a chaotic dickhead with a drink in my paw <wails> I'm telling myself it's OK to have blips but can't really believe it or I'll give myself permission sad

Sorry, not read any other posts because I'm selfish as well sad

kalidanger Thu 07-Mar-13 08:05:59

Oh, and pittas sad Adds up to 1300+ which is my daily allowance in one 'meal' grin

Well done on the trousers, DoubleMum

Oh Kali .... It'll be fine. I like to have a little blow out every now and again and I'm still losing. I've had at leat three 3000+ calorie days in the last eight weeks. Today is a new day so just think of yesterday as gone. This week keep an eye on your weekly total.

If you feel bad about it - despite there being no need - substitute beer for vodka or Gin. That's what I've had to do. I love smelly, warm real ale. I now savour it on a Sunday afternoon and choose Gin for evenings. The calorie difference is about 260 for beer and 56 for gin and slimline tonic. The other thing I do, because I feel bad about it too, is burn some calories on days that I now are going to go to bedlam.

Keep going Chief.

Ooooooo. Double you look good in those trousers grin

kalidanger Thu 07-Mar-13 08:57:41

Aww, thanks Tea You're quite right with spirits vs. ale thing. I did spend last Saturday night adding vodka and tonic after vodka and tonic to my app and being the classic evangelical nightmare about it all grin

Givvus a twirl, Double!

Lizzylou Thu 07-Mar-13 09:00:35

Oh Kali. It happened, move on.
I still like a boozy night here and there and do what Tea says, just up your exercise that day or the days round it and try not to give in to hangover food!!

Double, go you! It is so fab when waistbands are looser or you get into clothes you couldn't have before.

Did the spinning last night, I am quite addicted now, wish I could make another class really but clashes with other stuff.

Will try Level 2 of Extreme Shed and Shred tonight.

WiseKneeHair Thu 07-Mar-13 09:31:40

Well, that didn't work! Didn't make it back on here the other night as DS3 (4yo) work screaming and shaking mid RI30! Horrible Mum that I am, I let DH deal with him whilst I finished my workout. grin I did go and comfort him after I finished though.
I've read through the thread and can I just say, that we rock! Everyone is doing so well.
Double looking good.
Sylvia I've just finished week three of C25K and I am loving it. This is the person who has hated running since been forced to do cross country at secondary school and always coming in second to last. although stopping off for a fag may have hindered my progress I actually prefer to run outside as I seem to get a better rhythm going than on a treadmill. Bssh I've also been looking slightly nervously at that 20 minute run in week 5.
Can I just say how jealous I am of you with nice 11 yos. My DS, 11 is being a bit of a nightmare at the moment and has to argue about everything. He's always been argumentative (once caught him aged 2.5 arguing that day was night!), but he seems to have got worse recently.
Lizzy I agree extreme S&S is odd. Doing lvl 1 and 2 is quite doable as its not as high intensity as her others, but it does take quite a long time. I've just ordered no more trouble zones, so we'll see what that one is like.
Kali don't beat yourself up too much. I hope you enjoyed it. Today's another day, so forget about it and get back on track.
Saint I'll add you on MFP, but welcome.

Out to dinner for a work thing tonight, it's an Italian restaurant and I know that you only get two or three choices and as it is a set price, I suspect pudding is included. So, will try and make as good a choice as I can and avoid pudding but I'm not going to beat myself up too much when if I go over. Will actually get off my fat arse in a minute and do some exercise to mitigate the damage.
Keep choosing your hard, Chiefs.

WiseKneeHair Thu 07-Mar-13 09:33:54

Er, sorry Saint just seen your MFP name and realised we are already friends grin. I'm easily confused!

kalidanger Thu 07-Mar-13 10:47:48

Ta chiefs. Hangover lifting and planning to get back on track smile

Good going on the exercise front, you lot. I'm down as 'sedentary' and have to brave the judgey-pants brigade (and sort out bikini line) for swimming at some point soon hmm

DoubleMum Thu 07-Mar-13 11:57:49

Kali, it's done, enjoyed, forgotten, now straight back to choosing your hard!

I'd like to report that although no eating has been done yet I have drunk 3 cups of tea and chased after baby bunnies in these trousers and they are still done up! Unfortunately I have another couple of pairs of trousers in this size and they DON'T fit so not too much jumping for joy just yet.

Have a nice Italian tonight Wise. And my 11 yr old definitely has his argumentative moments too - he's gone as James Bond to school for World Book Day this morning so there was a nice argument about taking a (toy) gun to school to start off the day.

BsshBossh Thu 07-Mar-13 13:20:42

Hello all. Very envy of your pencil skirt Lizzy and Double smile and wine at getting into a smaller size. Hurrah! Kali remember the mantra "tomorrow is another day" - we all have days like that but we keep chugging away and eventually lose those pesky pounds.

I have a tendency to snack on junk - crisps, chocolate, sweets... So last week I told myself that I must reach for something healthy whenever I feel peckish and only after I've eaten it can I eat a bit of junk. So far it's been working for me. It meant I am reaching for the same food I give to DD - things like carrots and peppers dunked in tzatiki or humous, or Ryvita seeded thins and a bit of almond butter, or some unsalted nuts and these are so filling that I'm finding I can't be bothered with crisps etc. Hoping this will stick...

Weigh in tomorrow. Have been contentedly fasting away and eating well but not logging at all sodoubt I'll lose anything. Because I've not been my current size in over 10 years I'm actually enjoying staying the same - it's quite a novelty so happy to stall maintain for a bit longer. My deadline to lose the rest of my weight (approx 10 lbs) is the summer hols so no rush.

DoubleMum Thu 07-Mar-13 14:10:06

Bssh lovely position to be in to just sit back and survey your surroundings for a while.

Afternoon. Weighed in today for a 2 lb loss over two weeks.

Enjoy your Italian Wise

Bssh That's a really good idea. I still remember Maureen's advice if you can't be arse to peel a carrot you're not that hungry. Unfortunately I'm not so good at heeding it.

Only got 1 lb now to get to the target I set in January. I've not been this light since I got married at 23 when, after the wedding, I comfort ate for 10 years because I was so very miserable [I married an arsehole first time round emoticon]. Hoping to get to target in two weeks. So I'm feeling quite proud of myself - I don't normally have this level of willpower or dedication.

I will then, after trip to wedding, set a new target to lose what I've put on again blush and another 4 lbs to get down to a weight that allows my body to fluctuate and me not get grumpy about it.

Kali I'm considering getting out the garden strimmer before I go away - swimming's a great idea right until the point you realise you're hairy and have got to walk around in what is essentially your underwear!

DoubleMum Thu 07-Mar-13 17:19:33

Yay Tea!

MrGeresHamster Thu 07-Mar-13 18:31:58

Yay Tea!

DS (6mo) has been a dream today. He's had an on off cold since Xmas and I think he may almost be clear. We've had a lot of fun. Can't wait for the end of cold season.

We are trying weaning at the moment and he's hating food, definitely doesn't get that from me. I'm enjoying though spending some time thinking about our lunch. We both sit and eat together so I'm putting an effort in eating similar to him or at least not scoffing on bad stuff. It's really nice actually to be eating lots if raw fruit/veg. And as I'm helping him out I don't have time to wolf down my food. It really feels like habits could be changed here...

Kali, life is for living. You need to have a blow out every now and again. I hope it was fab. I have two blow outs planned, one for my first ever Mother's Day being a mum and second for my birthday at the end of the month. Having them planned is encouraging me not to splurge out beforehand!

BsshBossh Thu 07-Mar-13 19:27:44

Fantastic Tea! Do you think you'll keep fasting (eg 6:1) when you reach your ultimate goal? I think I might (or variation thereof).

kalidanger Thu 07-Mar-13 22:01:35

Thanks again for support thanks

Now I've got a question (that might have been covered before, soz, as I'm new to this);

Say, for the sake of argument,  I used to eat far too many calories (unbelievable, I know), something like 3000 a day. Now, with MFP, I am eating around 1300. When I 'complete my entry' and it says 'if every day were like today you'd weigh X in five weeks' that's not strictly accurate, is it? As, while I may have gone over 1300, I am eating nowhere near 3000...? I'll be losing as long as I stay under 3000...? That sad implication that 'you'll be fat forever!' can be ignored... kind of thing hmm

It assumes that every day in the next five weeks is just like the one you've had .... so unless you are eating 3000 calories a day for the next 35 days then it is a complete load of bollaaarks.

I do like to laugh at the ones when I've been fasting because I'm pretty certain my left thigh alone weighs more than the projection.

Bssh Yes I will keep fasting. I like it. confused WTF happened to me?!!! DH is already on 6:1 <grumps off>

kalidanger Fri 08-Mar-13 10:16:57



BsshBossh Fri 08-Mar-13 11:46:51

I posted this on the 5:2 thread cause I'm also a regular there (so apologies if you've already seen this):

Another lb down this morning after last week's maintain. I'm doing 16:8 fasting (eat what I like but within 8 hour window, no logging, fasting 16 hours) rather than 5:2 now, and just weekdays. On the weekend, anything goes grin. So now my stats look like this:

Eating at 10-15% cut of TDEE:
1 Feb 12 - 210lbs
2 June 12 - 196
13 July 12 - 178
7 Sept 12 - 168
10 Jan 13 - 166
25 Jan 13 - 164
Start fasting:
1 Feb 13 - 163
8 Feb13 - 159
15 Feb 13 - 158
22 Feb 13 - 156
1 Mar 13 -156
8 Mar 13 - 155

BsshBossh Fri 08-Mar-13 11:49:31

kali MFP has never told me I'll lose, always gain, because over the past year I've consistently eaten at least 600 calories over their recommendation grin.

kalidanger Fri 08-Mar-13 12:45:39

But... but...*bsssh*!! shock I must obey them! I MUST!

BsshBossh Fri 08-Mar-13 12:50:00

kali grin

juneybean Fri 08-Mar-13 16:57:49

Bloody hell Bssh that's amazing seeing it like that!

I might eventually get down to your starting point if I'm lucky wink

Well done on all the losses this week chiefs!

MrGeresHamster Fri 08-Mar-13 17:39:56

Bssh that is amazing and a great way to see it. grin

BsshBossh Fri 08-Mar-13 17:59:11

Yes, it's instructive for me seeing it too. Reminds me that what's helped me lose the weight is consistency - just to keep on plugging away, even when I stopped dieting for weeks or months and fell back to old ways, eventually I picked up where I last left off. Chug chug chug away Chiefs! Also that weight loss isn't guaranteed - I didn't record any of my stalls or gains until recently but believe me there were many gains in there to - particularly last Autumn <need to remind myself of this too>

DoubleMum Fri 08-Mar-13 20:41:15

I need to lose as much as you've lost to get to your starting point Bssh. Sobering thought, especially having just eaten a piece of chocolate cake.

BsshBossh Fri 08-Mar-13 20:58:30

You can eat cake, Double, just adjust for it in your weekly calories. But you know this smile Just take weight loss lb by lb and eventually we'll get to goal (even with all the detours and binges).

MrGere I hope your DS is through with the cold. And may there be many delightful days ahead. I was impressed this year that I was cold free by February however the last couple of days I have been producing the sort of purest green that would have Percy calling Blackadder over to his house. Damn the snotty little blighters.

Bssh it is very interesting to see a long time loss and how it comes in fits and starts. I'm also interested in your fast. I may play with something similar once I'm back in the world of gainful employment.

I really like cake. DS wanted vanilla cupcakes for his birthday so I'm missing lovely chocolate cake. <leans over for a sniff of Double's cake>

dinkydoos Fri 08-Mar-13 23:10:15

tea 'I really like cake' . That must be quote of the week grin
Had to fast today as went to the pub Wednesday night for a couple with DP and the plan was to eat out afterwards... Ended up just staying in pub. Result was a poorly head inthe morning and bacon sarnies etc yesterday instead of planned fast!
May weigh tomorrow, wish me luck

Lizzylou Sat 09-Mar-13 08:09:46

Morning. It is raining and gloomy and I am about to go do a parkrun.
I really don't fancy it today!
Happy Saturday.

dinkydoos Sat 09-Mar-13 08:17:15

Good luck lizzylou !
You will feel awesome afterwards

Dinky weighed in today after around 3 weeks and has lost 3lb, so pretty happy with that on 5:2

Toast time now!

SylviaDaisyPouncer Sat 09-Mar-13 09:23:13


dinky well done on the 3lbssmile

lizzy hope the run was good and you feel fab from getting out there.

tea grin at "purest green". Me and my brother still bring it up when we (or kids) have really snotty colds. Glad we aren't the only ones!

Going to try to get out in the garden in a minute. It has been really bright but big black clouds on the way. Really must get it tidy ready to plant.

Pound and a half off this week. Really pleased. Saw sil yesterday and she said I have lost weight. Was lovely to hear, but a long way to go yet. However feeling v motivated and determined this time I am finally going to beat this weight problem.

Have a great weekend Chiefs!

DoubleMum Sat 09-Mar-13 13:17:39

Well done Sylvia and Dinky!
LOL on your nugget of Purest Green Tea. I used to be able to quote entire episodes of Blackadder off by heart, can't wait to enjoy them with the DCs. There's still more cake, come round and help yourself. Unfortunately the cake has helped me fall off the wagon big time and I've been to the cinema this morning and succumbed to minstrels, maltesers and toffee popcorn. Not a clue what the damage is, but it isn't good. Obviously it's all part of a cunning plan to trick my body into losing more weight. <convinces herself>

Lizzylou Sat 09-Mar-13 17:54:05

Well done Dinky and Sylvia!!!!

Missed the Blackadder snot grin

Did the run, wasn't so bad. Glad I did it anyway can drink wine tonight now
My Brother, SIL and 2 nieces and nephew came for the day. Two youngest are 2 and 1, had forgotten what running round after such littlies was like! Our house is a minefield of non-toddler friendly stuff now. Lovely day though, lots of snuggles.
Double, I was like that yesterday, could have eaten and eaten. Weird isn't it? Sometimes you could just scoff forever, other days you struggle to get your calories up so MFP doesn't bollock you.

MrGeresHamster Sat 09-Mar-13 18:33:31

Lizzylou... does mfp bollock you then if you eat too FEW calories? Unfortunately never happened to me.

Lizzylou Sat 09-Mar-13 19:21:42

It does MrGeresHamster, it does.

I have just been watching your friend in Yanks. Gets me everytime. He was/is such a sexbomb. Cheekbones do it for me. Think it is because I have a dough face, like a cabbage patch doll.

BsshBossh Sat 09-Mar-13 19:23:39

MrGere MFP bollocks me on my 500 calorie fasting days.

Dinky, Sylvia well done!

Double I've had (still having) one of those days when I could eat and eat and eat.

Well done Lizzy. Respect.

Dinky and Sylvia ... fantastic and on a Saturday too, I think Fridays are such that I could never report a loss on a Saturday so I think it counts as double.

Double it'll be ok. Today is just a blip. I'm hoping that tomorrow will be a blip of a similar type tomorrow for me. Hoping to get a run in before lunch to help manage the impact of roast potatoes, Yorkshire puds, blueberry bakewells and wine. I've spent the day not eating any of the baking I'm doing which is a particularly mean type of torture sad

Double what age do you think you'll be getting Blackadder out for your kids? I can't wait to watch with them - the oldest two (12 and 11) are starting to get jokes in things like outnumbered (it is our life though) and miranda (she could sometimes be me though), I feel like I'm just counting down time to put the Life of Brian and Blackadder in front of them.

Lizzylou Sat 09-Mar-13 19:54:54

Tea, I have lost count of the people who say to me "Oh My GOD, you ARE Miranda!".

Perhaps we are twins?? smile

I love Miranda but don't want to look like her

Such fun!

When I used to babysit my younger brothers, they were pretty much entertained by The Young Ones videos all the time. I now think BLIMEY! Wouldn't show my boys that, not just yet anyway. And we have no video player anymore.

Actually LOLing at the difference at being a big sister versus a mother. Me too Lizzy, I would never let my boys watch what I let my DB watch at the age of 8

Perhaps we are identical, obvs

Lizzylou Sat 09-Mar-13 20:11:09

They were about 8 and 10 (mine are 7 and almost 9). They are my half brothers and used to come and stay with me, we all loved it. But I ran out of things to do with them before the days of DS's and tablets. Seemed OK in my early 20s. Now I am all parental controls and uptightness.

Tea, we could be twins, just don't be funnier than me, OK? --Too late--Pah!

DoubleMum Sat 09-Mar-13 20:33:39

We actually watched an episode of Blackadder II tonight - the Lord High Executioner one. Apart from the bit where Lady Farrow is about to give him a BJ, which will have completely gone over their heads, it was fine. He did call Baldrick a complete and utter bastard but DS kind of gave me a cheeky grin and thought that was funny. DD didn't really like it, whether because she didn't get it or because she is a bit poorly I don't know. Possibly both.
Today got worse as we had a Chinese takeaway, which wasn't completely my fault, but I'd eaten nothing else but chocolate and was quite controlled, so I've just about come in under cals I think unless I've hideously under-logged.

Me too Lizzy, I feel like it's my life mission. I even have parental controls on the fecking telly. I can't remember all the codes I use so most of the time it acts as a control for me watching age appropriate material too. Perhaps I should pop around my wee brother's house and make up for lost time and start loading netnanny onto his computer he's 32 now My DB is a lot younger than me too - he used to come and visit me at uni when he was 9. Oh. I've just remembered that when DB was 9 he came to visit me in Halls at uni. Oh. I was a bad big sister blush

Oh ok. Double I might try one episode with them - I suppose it's a one way of finding out whether they know what a BJ is or not! Not sure if I'll get past DH though, our current "discussion" is whether Adrian Mole is age appropriate for 12 YO .. on account of the norwegian fishing chart.

And bloody good on you coming in on a day when you've had a variety of different chocolates and chinese. Your are a CalorieCountingUberMiester. I doff my cap to you.

DoubleMum Sun 10-Mar-13 07:56:08

<collapses on the floor in laughter at being a CalorieCountingUberMiester>

OK another night of being up with DD during every hour of the night and I'm not exactly feeling at my best for Mother's Day. On the other hand I've had a handmade card and a cuddly duck-billed platypus so who could ask for more?

Unfortunately when asked what I wanted for lunch today I specified something low-maintenance and low-calorie. DH actually got a Chinese feast for 4 with extra crispy duck and pancakes from Tesco, so I'm guessing he didn't actually listen.

RandallPinkFloyd Sun 10-Mar-13 10:50:27

Coming home today, time to start paying my penance!

Ate junk and drank far too much booze this week but don't give a stuff. (That's bad isn't it blush ) I had a fab time with my fab friends, that's worth putting a couple of pounds on for my book.

I fasted for 2 days before I went and will do the same today and tomorrow so that will have to do!

Mother's Day sucks so fasting today will not be fun but I shall resist. grin

DoubleMum Sun 10-Mar-13 11:24:44

Glad you had a good time Randall

BsshBossh Sun 10-Mar-13 12:59:54

Happy Mother's Day Chiefs! I completely ate my body weight in ice cream yesterday and in roasted almonds & wasabi peas this morning... then TOM arrived. So nice to have an excuse, for once grin.

Enjoy your Chinese meal CalorieCountingUberMiester and hope tonight is better for you and DD.

Welcome back Randall. You're such an inspiration for the way you enjoy your weekends away with all that eating, then cut back, then lose weight. Terrific work!

Lizzylou Sun 10-Mar-13 19:55:45

Good evening chiefs
I have had a lovely day of being spoilt, including so much food when we went to lunch. I had a platter, which included Italian antipasti (not bad) and a fuck off cheese fondue with bread to dip in which was just pure sex in food form. I shared it out with DS2 in order to outweigh the damage (too cheesy for DH and DS1, how on earth can anything be too cheesy?!) and have done a run this evening as well as Kettlecise this morning.
Well bloody worth it though.

I hope that everyone has had lovely days smile

DoubleMum Mon 11-Mar-13 10:30:23

Both DCs off school today with this horrible sore throat, and I have really strong snacking urges today. No idea why. So far I have confined it to a nectarine, and orange and some ham but the single piece of choc cake left is calling my name. Must be strong!

Tabbykat Mon 11-Mar-13 12:20:19

Hope everyone had a nice weekend? Ate far too much yesterday and determined to do better this week so am planning to attempt the first stage of C25K this afternoon when I've dropped DD2 at pre-school. Hate running as really hurts my ginormous boobs and frankly think I'll struggle to get through it without collapsing but will give it a go. Still snowing a bit here so think I'll need to dig out a woolly hat!

DoubleMum Mon 11-Mar-13 12:21:23

Go for it Tabby, well done you especially in this weather.

BsshBossh Mon 11-Mar-13 12:49:19

Yes, go for it Tabby. And remember, you don't have to follow it three times a week... I have weakish knees so running has always been a problem for me. I did two sessions last week then replaced the third with 30 minutes speed walking; am missing it this week too (speed walking again) but plan on resuming next week. I'm happy to go at my own pace.

RandallPinkFloyd Mon 11-Mar-13 12:59:07

Wow, go for it Tabby, you can do it!

Double, if you really want the slice of cake have it. Don't make yourself miserable all day by depriving yourself, just allow for it in your daily calories. There's nothing wrong with allowing yourself a treat, just adjust your day to absorb it. Remember this is for the rest of our lives not just one day.

If I had homemade chocolate cake in the house damn right I'd be eating it grin

RandallPinkFloyd Mon 11-Mar-13 13:01:49

Oh and thank you for the compliment bssh, this week's damage remains to be seen though!

Lizzylou Mon 11-Mar-13 13:10:09

Go Tabby Go!

BsshBossh Mon 11-Mar-13 13:43:31

Totally agree with Randall", *Double - don't torture yourself over a slice of cake. Eat less dinner tonight, or skip a meal tomorrow. As long as it balances out at the end of the week, it will be fine.

Tabbykat Mon 11-Mar-13 14:04:08

I did it! Quite frankly astonished I got round as was really sure I'd struggle. Can't say it was great fun but will hopefully manage to do it again in a day or so. Got covered in mud in the park and totally frozen (my ears!) despite pinching DD1's bobble hat. Pretty sure I must've burnt a few extra calories in the snow though.....

Lizzylou Mon 11-Mar-13 14:16:34

Well done Tabby, that is fantastic!
Bet you feel fab.

MrGeresHamster Mon 11-Mar-13 15:01:26

Well done Tabby!

dinkydoos Mon 11-Mar-13 15:25:18

Hello all.
Well done on the run tabby!
lizzy , cheese fondue you say? Gawd, that sounds nice!
Hope everyone had good weekends, fast day here but ate for Britain over the weekend so best rein it in!

DoubleMum Mon 11-Mar-13 16:41:43

Am over the cake I think. I don't want to spend 500+ cals on it. Choosing my hard I guess. I had an M&S Fuller Longer tostada for lunch because I picked up some yellow sticker stuff yesterday and it was horrible. Won't make that mistake again. I hardly ever have ready meals anymore. Might follow RG Pargy's nutritionist eating plan though if she's lost 13 lbs in one week!

DoubleMum Mon 11-Mar-13 16:42:22

PS. That's great Tabby, well done, and in such nasty weather too.

Yo Chiefs.


Oh. My. Word. Well there's been much action for the Goddesses of Choosing Hard the last 24 hours. Running, cake avoiding, fasting. All great work.

And even better with the boozing, lovely mothers days and feasting grin

Nice to see such a variety of things being done.

I'm fasting today. It's too cold. So I didn't exercise so I feel bad. I'm a little sore from doing level 1-3 back to back of the shred. I could hardly stand by the end. So not a good chiefing day for me!

BambieO Mon 11-Mar-13 19:30:48

tea I can barely stand after level 1 never mind all three shock

To me you will forever more be Zenawarriorofthetea grin

BsshBossh Mon 11-Mar-13 19:37:43

Well done Tabby and Double.

I'm fasting today too - trying to get to 23 hours before I eat the day's 500 cals (a chicken, green olive, lemon & saffron tagine I made earlier and have been struggling to resist!) in compensation for a very indulgent weekend (Mother's Day & arrival of TOM). Then a few days of my usual 8-hour window eating. Then might try another 500 cal fast on Thursday. Honestly, it's amazing how much more I get done when I don't have to think about breaking for breakfast, lunch, snacks except tea. Today I got loads of work done at my desk.

RandallPinkFloyd Mon 11-Mar-13 20:26:32

Well done Double, that's definitely choosing your hard!

And well done Tabby, running in this weather? Hard core.

DoubleMum Mon 11-Mar-13 20:28:33

LOL, didn't have any apple crumble either Randall.
<Smug, moi?!> Fat, more like.

Ahh the apple crumble would have got me!

<tenses thunder thighs and leaps off to wave sword around>

Lizzylou Mon 11-Mar-13 20:50:48

Well done double for resisting temptation and tea, you shredding goddess!
Bssh, that tagine sounds lush.
I have just done a kettlecise class. I worked doubly hard as felt slightly Erm... windy and there are lots of squats and lunges. The shame.

RandallPinkFloyd Mon 11-Mar-13 20:57:50

Now apple crumble would have definitely defeated me. Mmm crumble......

Lizzy you'll have a pelvic floor of steel!

Tabbykat Mon 11-Mar-13 21:01:36

Lizzy just think how toned you'll be holding it all in! Legs starting to ache now - hope it's at least done me some good.....

I really do like apple crumble perhaps more than cake.

Lizzy Just WOW! By level 3 my pelvic floor had given in and decided to stop doing its job. The shame of getting on.

DoubleMum Tue 12-Mar-13 07:56:36

LOL, even more reasons why I can't do Shred. My pelvic floor is already shredded.
Weighed in for a very happy 3.4 lb loss today taking me over a stone and a half.
I have two poorly DCs again though, coughing all over the place, and a nasty cough and sore head tonight. Plus I really need to do a quick food shop, for milk for a start or I might run out of PG Tips <the horror is too much>, but can't go to the shops now. And parents' evening tonight, bleurgh.

Lizzylou Tue 12-Mar-13 08:54:35

Yay Double, that is brilliant!

Well, I have 3 weeks until the dreaded 4-0 and scales didn't move last week, so am on it now. Upping exercise (pelvic floor notwithstanding) as I can see a big difference in tone etc, even if the scales aren't budging.

I will have to get some windeeze or something though confused

Double that is amazing. Can you feel the difference? I found walking a less sweaty and heavy breathing task when i got rid of my first stone and a half. But on to the most important bit. OMG. Tea emergency. That is serious!

Lizzy exciting birthday grin I bet you'll look amazing with all that exercise

kalidanger Tue 12-Mar-13 09:23:29

Wow, that's fantastic Double You're my inspiration blush

Thanks all for kind words on MFP for my 2lb loss! I do feel very slightly different already grin Possibly my imagination but it feels nice so I'm, uh, keeping it.

Question My daily goal went up by itself on Sunday - from 1,320 to 1,568 hmm I am sure I didn't change anything. Does it do it itself after a certain amount of time or something? hmm

BambieO Tue 12-Mar-13 09:26:34

Did it factor in your exercise output kalidanger?

kalidanger Tue 12-Mar-13 09:30:23

Exercise what? sad I'm not really doing any at the moment apart from 3.5mph to and from the tube station.

I think I've messed it up by 'quick adding' 4k calories on Sunday, as I had a massive blow out all day long with my family and couldn't have logged everything individually... But then I go to Goals on MFP and it still says 1,380 (not 1,320 but that was my error in prev post).

BambieO Tue 12-Mar-13 09:33:53

Sometimes if you log exercise it adds to the calories you can have in a day. If not it might just have recalculated for the quick add you did?

Has it gone back now?

DoubleMum Tue 12-Mar-13 10:00:28

Isn't windeeze what you use for cleaning windows Lizzy? I got a bit confused there reading your post. Doesn't take much, mind. Remember you've already made a huge difference before the big day.
You'll all be relieved to know that I've found some Sainsbury's Basics teabags in the garage (top tip, the poor man's PG Tips, they taste almost exactly the same) so the dreadful prospect of Tea Deprival Syndrome has been averted. Still haven't got any milk though which is problematic in terms of a good cuppa.
Tea I can't really say I feel any different, although perhaps I find going up the stairs a bit easier.
Kali did it only change on Sunday and back to normal now?

RandallPinkFloyd Tue 12-Mar-13 10:06:16

Wowzers Double 3.4lb, that's amazing!

And well done Kali too, 2lb is a great loss.

Lizzy, with all tha exercise you're doing you must be really changing your shape, wish I was as motivated as you are.

Lizzylou Tue 12-Mar-13 10:08:27

Oh Double, I am not sure! I was thinking of Wind-eze That extra e could explain a lot!
Hurrah for tea! I am the same with coffee, cannot function without it.

Kali, just keep to normal calories and hope it re-adjusts in a few days?

RandallPinkFloyd Tue 12-Mar-13 10:27:06

Well, I've somehow managed to drop half a pound!

More than happy with that are the week I had and most importantly it takes me over the 2 stone mark.

Back to the grindstone this week grin

DoubleMum Tue 12-Mar-13 10:43:32

Yay! Randall, fantastic! And that's with a munchy holiday too!

saintmerryweather Tue 12-Mar-13 11:17:16

Well done everyone! I have been ill over the weekend so havent eaten much which means im now 11 st 12 1/2 whereas last weds i was 12 st 3. I expect itll go back on when i start eating normally again but im hoping itll have given me the kickstart i need to get going

kalidanger Tue 12-Mar-13 11:24:48

Thanks, chiefs. I'll have a fiddle with it and see if it re-sets. I'm quite happy at 1380 so far, except for a weekly blow out hmm I am was so fat crap at managing myself that merely eating sane amounts will hopefully make a big difference to start with. That's what I've convinced myself of anyway.

Sadly, I'm working from home today which is so much harder to keep to set meal times but I choose to stay out if the fridge.

saintm being ill is great sometimes innit grin

DoubleMum Tue 12-Mar-13 11:30:56

Kali I work from home all the time, it's definitely more difficult to be disciplined. I just try to be more mindful of everything that goes in my mouth.

BambieO Tue 12-Mar-13 11:37:00

Well done everyone. I had a sneaky mid week weigh and I am 10lbs down since I started on 03rd so I am definitely going to keep going. I want to see that stone before the month is out.

Being at home is the worst, there is so much temptation. I, like double, have to be extra careful what I eat now when I am here

MrGeresHamster Tue 12-Mar-13 11:42:54

Darn it 1.5lb on this week, probably due to huge boobs as breast feeding has now finished. Feel like they are going to pop! Might try out the Savoy cabbage idea. Really hoping this is the reason for the gain. I've been going steadily down since January and don't want to lose the stride...

Working from home is a huge killer but on the plus side you have more opportunity to be surrounded by good snacks.

RandallPinkFloyd Tue 12-Mar-13 13:22:47

Wow Bambi, 10lb since the 3rd of March shock bloody hell!

BsshBossh Tue 12-Mar-13 14:20:34

Great losses Chiefs!

Lizzy I bet you're gaining muscle which retains water as it repairs, which is why you might not be seeing much movement on the scales at the moment. Keep at it cause we all know that muscle burns more calories at rest than fat. Hurrah!

BambieO Tue 12-Mar-13 15:03:11

randall it's just hard work and nothing to do with the fact I ate like a pig, had two or three takeaways a week, half a bottle of wine every night and a share bag if chocolates which has all been cut out grin

It will slow down now, probably a shock to my system being junk free haha

BambieO Tue 12-Mar-13 15:17:13

I also did zero exercise and am doing the shred everyday which is making a big difference

DoubleMum Tue 12-Mar-13 15:26:55

I'm thinking of starting some kind of weight training as I could do that if it didn't involve squats/lunges. Can't afford gym and much too fat to contemplate going to one for a long time yet but am having difficulty finding something I can do at home. I'm sure at first I should be able to use just tins, yes?

BambieO Tue 12-Mar-13 15:38:04

Yes definitely go with tins, I find the arm exercises hard with weights and I am only using 1.5kg I couldn't physically cope with more!! blush

Bambi Cor blimey. Well done.

saint great start - I'm sorry you had to be ill though.

Double Tins or water bottles - I use both to shred. Tis vair glam. I look just like Jillian not. I think most routines on the internet will involving lunging and squatting unfortunately - I've just had a quick look for you.

There are a number of options:
1. you could do is miss out those lunging and squatting "sets" and just go for it - the only thing to watch for is if you're lifting weights on some muscles but not exercising others you could be prone to injury - but I think you could probably get away with a short period of time of getting your body going this way
2. a trip to your doctors might be an option ... I don't know whether you're as old as me but I've just had a health check and one of the discussions I had with my practice nurse is whether I qualified for a free 12 week membership of a gym - though you might want to do that a bit later. There are also community health champions in my area who run activities for people to take place in that aren't in the gym and are low impact. You could get referred to them.
3. Asking your local college or gym whether they've got someone doing an apprenticeship or training to be a trainer. They have to do assessments of people and pull together a programme that's suitable for them. My neighbour did mine for free a couple of years ago when she was training and it was really useful at the point I was very a bit blush to have my arse blocking the sun wobbling in a gym.

Incidentally, a lot of weight training can be done at home without "weights" but using your own body for resistance training. Silly little things like jumping up and down on the spot. Stepping up on the stairs. Doing the plank. Push ups. They all burn calories. The thing is to remember to start with two of each and then build up one day at a time.

I've got hockey this evening but it's so cold I can hardly move my fingers to type.

BambieO Tue 12-Mar-13 16:03:43

Hockey must be fabulous exercise zena tea, I wish I could do something like that.

I would love to start swimming but I'm so conscious of my mummy tummy at the moment sad hopefully by summer I will have blitzed most of it.

DoubleMum Tue 12-Mar-13 16:16:40

Thanks both. I think I'd definitely like to lose (a lot) more weight before going to a gym. I can't do anything that involves getting on the floor etc as I can't bend my knees enough to get down or up. I'd love that to change as I lose weight but I don't know if it will, generally the surgeon says wherever your knees are a year after the replacement, that's where they stay, but I know that my knees have improved after that year.
The Dcs are getting the Wii Fit out now for me!

BambieO Tue 12-Mar-13 16:23:57

It's very hard when you have the motivation but you can't physically do some things sad have you thought about swimming at all?

DoubleMum Tue 12-Mar-13 16:30:40

Swimming involves being half naked in public!! <faints>
Also <ahem> I cannot really swim.
This sounds like I'm just making excuses, I am going to do something, honestly! Thwarted at this moment as one of the Wiimotes is missing and the other isn't making anything happen.

BambieO Tue 12-Mar-13 17:00:06

Haha that's exactly why I don't go swimming blush

dinkydoos Tue 12-Mar-13 19:19:03

Hello chiefs, some marvellous losses from you lot. randall was impressed you pulled that out of the bag even after your little holiday!
double you've done so well, would prob also recommend evil Jillian, but ignore the lunges etc as Tea suggests.
On paper I could put down 45 minutes tennis today followed by 45 minutes of swimming... However seeing as it was with a 5 and 7 year old it's more like 30 mins max of anything worthwhile!
Chicken roasting in oven along with butternut squash, parsnip and carrot, all roasted. With spring cabbage to tick the 'green' box. Have a glass of red, so all well with the world .. Until I fast tomorrow grin

kerala Tue 12-Mar-13 19:24:09

Nearly lost a stone! Trousers all bagging out though will have to go shopping...

I used to eat what I wanted but since Jan 12th have cut out snacks, porridge for breakfast, soup and ryvita for lunch, dinner on a smaller plate. And exercise most days. Seem stuck at my weight though.

DoubleMum Tue 12-Mar-13 19:31:55

Well done Kerala!

BambieO Tue 12-Mar-13 19:33:52

Well done! That's amazing, definitely an inspiration smile

Have you tried changing your exercise or maybe adding more/eating less calories?

Lizzylou Tue 12-Mar-13 19:55:22

Well done Bambie and Kerala! smile

Have done a Mega Abs blast class tonight. Speed situps and other torturous things.

Double, I have a 10minute solution toning DVD that you are very welcome to if you want to PM me your address? I love the 10min solution dvds, fab way to build up your fitness and stamina.

BsshBossh Tue 12-Mar-13 20:04:38

Well done kerala!

Double I'd have thought walking at a brisk pace would be a good one. Is that possible for you? You only need to walk at a pace where you get a bit red in the face, a bit warm, can feel your heart beating a bit harder.

DoubleMum Tue 12-Mar-13 20:52:20

Lizzy that's very kind, am afraid I don't know how to send a PM though, have only replied to them! blush
Bssh yes I can -and should- do that. DS found the other Wiimote tonight so I will attempt a bit of that tomorrow.

GeekLove Tue 12-Mar-13 21:14:16

Hello fellow chiefs! Having lain low following weight gain I am now 1lb lighter and down to just below 65kg. I might make sub 10st by summer.
I am trying to build up though with NMTZ twice a week with the aim of completing at least 5 circuits. Have done it all On 5kg for the first time last week and managed to do the squat and press and the sumo squats on 8kg.
Having said that does anybody know anyone who sells metal dumbells -preferbl the ones with plates as I want a set that doesn't take up muc weight. I haven't anything between 5kg and 8kg and it's a bit of a PITA
BTW weightless isnst so fast but I certainly feel firmer even though it's only week2. In the meantime on the non NMTZ it's a mixuture of Shred and Killer with 3 days off.

Tabbykat Wed 13-Mar-13 08:49:31

Morning! Congrats to all those with losses/looser trews!

I have a quick MFP question about logging exercise. Some of you have entries that say X did 35 mins of y, including 10 mins of z - how do I do this? And does it then calculate calories according? Eg if I go for a 40 min walk, but do 15 mins running as part of it, do I write 25 mins walk and 15 mins run in the same entry?? And will MFP work out the increased calorie burn for that 15 mins of running or just count it as 40 mins walking? Does that even make sense??

Hope somebody more intelligent than me can help!!

BambieO Wed 13-Mar-13 09:06:30

I'm not sure tabby I am lazy and do one exercise at a time but someone will definitely know

I am on MFP feel free to add me username tinamcbeana

Lizzylou Wed 13-Mar-13 09:12:41

Tabby, yes, log all exercise individually, it will allow for increased burn.

So on Parkrun days I do 30 minutes running and 15 minutes walking (to get to and from start/finish line!), which I log individually and it gives me 350 cals for the run and say 75 cals for the walk (rough figures, but you know what I mean!).

Well done Geek!

Double, have pmed you smile

SylviaDaisyPouncer Wed 13-Mar-13 09:14:34

Morning everyone!

Don't think I've posted for a few days, been feeling under the weather and Asthma has been horrendous (bloomin cold weather) so not much exercise going on. Going to get well and start C25k as soon as I can.

tabby I would log walking and running separately but there are probably more experienced Chiefs on here who will be better help! When I log exercise eg walking pushing buggy for 30 mins it works the calories out. Just keep adding everything you do!

Well done everyone on their losses, some great work going ongrin

I resisted a binge yesterday, got all the yummy bits out of the fridge then put them back. I didn't want to go on mfp and show you all how bad I had been! Neither do I want to be fat anymore. As I survived the night without starving it just shows I didn't need it!

Don't think I have everyone on mfp. If anyone else wants to add me I'm SDPouncer.

Also have managed not to weigh mid week/ every morning. I am getting a little twitchy wondering if I have lost. Going to hold out until Friday and hope to have lost at least a pound, then I will have lost 10lb altogether.

Have a great day everyone!

BambieO Wed 13-Mar-13 09:17:50

Have just added you SDP

That's brilliant! I am sure you will have lost that pound.

And massive kudos on resisting the binge! It's so hard, you did really well smile

Tabbykat Wed 13-Mar-13 09:24:40

Cheers Lizzy and SPD! Will attempt 2nd time of C25K later and as there's running and walking I'll try to log it properly instead of all as quick walking like last time. Will plan route better as well as last time had got to end of the session as was nowhere near where I'd left the car to get back home and had to walk extra half km!

Morning Chiefs.

Geek fabulous.

SDP now that is impressive ... if it's out of the fridge I have to lick it at the very least!

Kerela - great stuff .... keep at it and you'll start moving again.

Double Phew that DS found the wandy-thing for the wii. I would agree with Bssh that just walking is fecking brilliant. My DH reached his target last week and he fasted and walked. He walked places he would normally drive - not even very fast - and the weight fell off him. Because he didn't start fasting until after he'd lost a stone I can also recommend calorie counting and walking. Basically, he was walking an hour a day - so lunchtime or to the station.

I'm fasting again today after a mere three hours sleep <sigh>

DoubleMum Wed 13-Mar-13 09:37:39

Well done on the binge-refusal Sylvia. Great work Choosing Your Hard!!

DoubleMum Wed 13-Mar-13 09:42:22

You had as good a night as me then Tea. DD much better and back to school but poor DS has been coughing constantly since 4am and is still going. I stopped off on the way back from the school run and bought some icecream for his poor throat. Now I just have to stop myself eating it.
So I still have lounging DCs blocking my Wii TV usage. And I can't go out for a walk. Tomorrow and Friday are chocka, and DD's birthday at the weekend, but at least it will keep me busy.
I have decided I'm much better if I can not eat until lunchtime. If I have breakfast, I get big munchies around 10-11. Peculiar.

SylviaDaisyPouncer Wed 13-Mar-13 10:38:51

double I find if I have breakfast early I'm the same mid morning. I try to eat around 9/10 am (ideal on a work day as I have a break at 10). At work I skip lunch (too busy as I work in a kitchen), but at home I'm trying to have a big lunch then small dinner. Will be having pasta bake tonight as ds has cooking at school.

My dh has annoyingly lost his weight v quickly. He had quite a belly going on but plays golf 3 or 4 times a week now and the weight has just vanished. I guess it's a lot of walking even if it is slow!

BsshBossh Wed 13-Mar-13 10:42:08

Me too Double, it's most peculiar. I never was a breakfast person until I fell for the "official" advice to eat it. When I ate it, I always wanted to snack midmorning but now I always skip it I'm usually not bothered about eating until 1 or 2pm. I do love breakfast foods though so will often eat breakfast at "lunch" iyswim or as a mini meal when DD has her dinner at 5pm.

RandallPinkFloyd Wed 13-Mar-13 10:50:05

Well done losers, and big congrats on the baggy trousers!

Sylvia big respect, the vey definition of choosing your hard, bloody well done you.

I've done another sneaky weigh-in today as yesterday was actually a day early. I'd had to weigh early last week due to going away so did the sme this week without thinking. Another half a pound off so that makes a pound off over the week in total. More than happy with that.

Well done to all the runners, that's truly impressive, just the thought of running absolutely terrifies me. My friend pinned something yesterday which made me laugh, it's funny and a bit inspirational at the same time.

I run. I'm slower than a herd of turtles stampeding through peanut butter, but I run.

DoubleMum Wed 13-Mar-13 11:24:27

Sylvia men always seem to lose weight much easier than women, there must be some biological reason. Gits.
<fantasises about running through peanut butter>

WiseKneeHair Wed 13-Mar-13 12:06:52

Morning Chiefs.
I've not been on here for ages
I've mostly been logging on MFP, but have been busy this weekend bloody work and beginning of this week.
I've posted on MFP I'm on a train to a conference today, until Friday. So, eating challenges ahead, but I suspect plenty of time to catch up.
Can I just say how absolutely bloody brilliant you are all doing. I must admit when the first thread started in January, I didn't think so many of us me most definitely included would preserve so long and do so well.
I seem to differ from a lot of you, I really, really need breakfast or I get too hungry and binge. However, not keen at eating at 6 in the morning, so I take my cold porridge to work and eat it as soon as I get in, usually about 8ish. Sometimes, I actually have to do some work first and then I get a bit twitchy that I'm not going to get chance to eat.
Some great exercise going on here. I wanted to do day 3 of week 4 of C25k last night, but just didn't get time bloody work, children and Sainsbury's this time. I had then planned on not exercising today and Friday and doing C25K on Thursday. That's now gone to pot, so I am hoping to run today and Friday. That does mean Friday's run may have to be early in the morning, the morning after a gala, yes, well, we'll see how that goes. hmm
Keep choosing your hard Chiefs. grin

BambieO Thu 14-Mar-13 08:00:20

Good luck with C25K wisekneehair

Lizzylou Thu 14-Mar-13 09:21:00

Good luck with c25k Wise!

I have lost the grand total of 1lb, though I may weigh again tomorrow for a sneaky update, feel the scales should be going further downwards!

Been very on track this week, though it is my DS1's birthday today so am on cake avoidance tonight.

kalidanger Thu 14-Mar-13 13:03:42

Hi there, chiefs. Fantastic going on the progress and exercise smile

I had a wobbly few days as I got totally confused about what my calorie goal had reset itself to, so I reset it then compulsively checked it and got further confused through gaining calories by exercising and... and... oh god, it all seemed awful for a sec but I'm OK now. Really had a mental moment thinking that if it's going to gift me an extra 200 cals a day then I'm going to fail for sure shockhmmgrinbiscuit

Aaaaand, now I have reverse body dysmorphia. Lost 2lbs and I'm all poncing around in a mini-skirt (with thick black leggings), thinking I look like something fab grin

BsshBossh Thu 14-Mar-13 13:27:44

Kali I'm sure you look fab smile Well done on the weight loss. You too Lizzy (and happy birthday to your DS1). Fasting day for me today. Going okay so far but the freezing cold makes it hard work sometimes. This is TOM week for me and yesterday I ate my calories almost entirely in chocolate. I kid you not, chocolate animal biscuits, creme egg, Lindt chilli chocolate, Ambrosia chocolate custard, several big spoons full of microwae chocolate sponge pudding my DH so thoughtfully hmm decided to make after dinner. Had a healthy eg curry and fruit in between and was under my TDEE calories for the day but really blush. Hey ho, good job I'm fasting today - my body needs a deep clean. Only liquorice tea and water all day then veg curry (dal and marrow with chickpeas curry) and rice for dinner.

BsshBossh Thu 14-Mar-13 13:29:08

*veg curry not eg curry
*microwave not microwae

"v" letter sticking on keypad.

DoubleMum Thu 14-Mar-13 13:57:28

Bleurgh. That is all.

kalidanger Thu 14-Mar-13 14:04:54

Nom Bssh Chocolate Day then veg curry. Sounds lovely. I picked up an Easter Egg the other day and put it straight back down again - it's a whole days allowance grin

S'up DoubleMum?

DoubleMum Thu 14-Mar-13 14:15:46

Just have the lurgy both DCs have had. It's a bit yuk.
<faints at the idea of a piddly little easter egg being a whole day's calories>
<wakes up>

kalidanger Thu 14-Mar-13 14:29:47

Is it a good-lurgy (not feeling hungry) or a bad-lurgy (feed a fever)? You poor thing sad

kalidanger Thu 14-Mar-13 14:37:39
BambieO Thu 14-Mar-13 15:12:02

OMG who would have known! That's incredible

BsshBossh Thu 14-Mar-13 15:15:48

<Bssh will eat only a single big Easter Egg and nothing else on Easter Sunday> fat chance

DoubleMum Thu 14-Mar-13 16:49:40

That is hideous. shock
Yesterday it was good-lurgy, today it's bad-lurgy. "Luckily" I have been kept very busy. Just got DD's birthday cake too, so more cake to be avoided.
Plus called in at MIL's sandwich shop on the way home from school and not only did she give the children baguettes (DD likes smoked salmon & prawn, can't think where she got her expensive tastes) she gave DH & I lovely quiche and a baguette. Dread to think how many calories they are, but she was only being lovely so I didn't have to cook. (Contrary to Mumsnet Folklore, my MIL is lovely.)

dinkydoos Thu 14-Mar-13 23:07:01

Cripes, did my first 'class' at gym today. Was sort of mixed dance thing, Zumba, flamenco, American twist, all sorts.
Things I learnt:
I look ancient in the big mirrors
I have no rhythm
I look ancient
I dance like a mum at a wedding disco

Sigh. However despite all that, I actually quite enjoyed it and far less dull than the treadmill!
Will be back....

dinkydoos Thu 14-Mar-13 23:07:36

Oh and did I say

I look ancient!

BsshBossh Thu 14-Mar-13 23:25:35

grin dinky. I bet it was the flourescent lights that made you look old!

Tabbykat Fri 15-Mar-13 07:28:15

Dinky I bet it felt good to be giving it a go???

Due to do the third run in this c25k malarky today - pouring with rain and really don't fancy it but this weekend is manic and won't have any other time, so will just have to suck it up and get on with it. Gosh, I wish this weight loss was easier.....

BsshBossh Fri 15-Mar-13 07:29:23

2 lbs down in total this week, despite it being TOM week. So now my stats look like this:

Eating at 10-15% cut of TDEE:
1 Feb 12 - 210lbs
2 June 12 - 196
13 July 12 - 178
7 Sept 12 - 168
10 Jan 13 - 166
25 Jan 13 - 164
Start fasting:
1 Feb 13 - 163
8 Feb13 - 159
15 Feb 13 - 158
22 Feb 13 - 156
1 Mar 13 -156
8 Mar 13 - 155
15 Mar 13 - 153


DoubleMum Fri 15-Mar-13 07:40:15

Brilliant Bssh! How far away from goal now?
Dinky well done for going, face the other way!

BsshBossh Fri 15-Mar-13 07:55:28

Double 8 lbs to goal then I'll reassess to see whether I want to lose more (depends on how I look as I like my curves and I don't want to look gaunt).

BambieO Fri 15-Mar-13 07:59:11

Ladies I have hit my first stone! I am back in the 12 stones and back on a BMI of 24 I am thrilled. Must keep going!

Bssh that's AMAZING, you are all such inspirations smile

BsshBossh Fri 15-Mar-13 08:03:06

Well done Bambie smile

BambieO Fri 15-Mar-13 08:13:48

I am hoping to follow in your footsteps bssh, I ain't believe you have lost 60lbs! That's such a massive achievement flowers

BsshBossh Fri 15-Mar-13 08:30:22

Thank you. It's all down to consistency and keeping on going even if I don't lose for weeks, or puton weight (which happened lots last year). But also to keep getting support on forums like here and on MFP - it helps me be accountable smile

BambieO Fri 15-Mar-13 08:31:32

I agree, MFP has done wonders for me, I have never been this successful and stayed motivated before.

Lizzylou Fri 15-Mar-13 08:41:09

Well done Bssh and Bambie!! Fab work.

Bambie, how tall are you?

Dinky, well done on the mum dancing! I hate doing classes in front of a mirror, just hate it. If DH is back in time tonight I am going to body pump, in front of a mirror. Last time I was mortified. I do not look good when straining to pump weights!

DoubleMum Fri 15-Mar-13 08:53:46

Well done Bambie!

BambieO Fri 15-Mar-13 09:12:21

Lizzy I am 5ft 11ins , I was basically a tree trunk after pregnancy cakes grin

Lizzylou Fri 15-Mar-13 09:22:31

I thought you must be tall, Bambie! I am 5ft 9" so catching up wink
Bet you look fab!

BambieO Fri 15-Mar-13 09:29:52

We can be tall together grin what's your goal? 11stone seems so unrealistic for me at the moment sad

Bet you do too! I still have a way to go but am slowly getting my confidence back

Yey. You big losers from yesterday and today (sorry I'm on my phone so can't remember everyone there are so many) grin

I'm afraid I snorted at the looking ancient in the big mirrors. I know exactly what you mean. In my head I'm in my early 20s, last year I went to streetdance classes. It was a complete revelation to see my Mum in the mirror. And I really can't dance despite years of thinking I was still larging it like I did in the 90s.

I went over my target yesterday with a 2lbs loss. I've lost 71lbs in the last 3 years, 2 months and 9 days. I haven't been this light since I was at university. I just can't get my head around it at all. Apologies for the deluge of thoughts that's about to follow. And I hope I don't upset anyone. I have no idea what dress size I am. I feel a little overwhelmed by it because the reason for my weight gain in the first place was I was really unhappy in my 20s in a controlling relationship, i turned to comfort eating when I became isolated from friends and family, and stopped playing hockey because it was too much trouble. I've been plump or overweight ever since. I am now in the upper 50% of normal on the BMI scale and for body fat percentage. But will I be able to stay here? My weight tends to fluctuate by half a stone when I'm not doing this weight loss thing. So I think I need to go 4-6lbs lower so I have some wriggle room for that. I'm fasting today. My job hunting is starting to pick up and so I think I'll be getting interviews soon. They will assume I'm normal but i think I'll be working away a lot so how will I manage all that without creeping back up the scales? Like I say, overwhelmed. Sorry.

<slaps self>

bambi I was more of a privet bush than a tree trunk - one shaped into a round ball - being short is shite.

<goes off to look for the thread where people have weed in cat litter trays>

DoubleMum Fri 15-Mar-13 10:17:54

Tea it's a fantastic achievement and it's bound to take a while to get your head round it. Over-eating is almost entirely psychological to my mind. Take this morning, I was hungry so I thought instead of waiting till lunch I'd eat my lunch as a brunch. I've eaten a whole ham baguette, and now, despite (obviously) not being physically hungry, I am really craving more. I don't know how long it takes to change your mindset to one of a thin person who will eat, be sated and forget about food, if indeed you ever change. It would certainly be nice to change. It's a bit exhausting being so obsessed with food, not to mention a bit fattening.
The wee-ing in cat litter thread is vair funny. I once weed in a vase cos I lived on the top floor of student digs and the only bathroom was down 3 flights of stairs in the dark to the basement where the back door was. I'd just seen Silence of the Lambs. shock

BambieO Fri 15-Mar-13 10:34:06

Haha tea you are a privet bush no more!!!

DoubleMum Fri 15-Mar-13 11:53:01

So tired I could cry, from feeling bleurgh and a week of truly awful nights. Not going to worry too much about what I eat today.

Lizzylou Fri 15-Mar-13 13:58:41

Bambie, I honestly don't know. I always weigh heavier than I look iyswim so will know when I get there I think!

Tea, bloody, bloody good for you. You are very inspirational, you should feel very proud. As Double says I think there may be a gap between our bodies and minds. It will take a while for your mind to catch up with the fact that you are a slim person in control of her eating and weight iyswim? I think some people carry on with fasting just one day a week to maintain, does that sound feasible for you?

Hope you feel better Double, try not to worry about intake today, your body is telling you it needs energy to fight the lurgy I think.

I have just got back from a Client function where I had none of the gorgeous canapes or cakes and met an MP (v famous one) and the Turkish Ambassador. It's just how we roll in Lancashire wink

DoubleMum Fri 15-Mar-13 14:23:14

Get you Lizzy. You'll be too posh to talk to us soon. Super canape control!

BsshBossh Fri 15-Mar-13 14:54:58

Amazing achievement Tea! Absolutely inspirational. I think if you continue to play hockey and get fitter and stronger I think your eating habits will fall into line and you'll not default to emotional eating again. And if the scales creep up, then so be it. You now have the tools (MFP, fasting and fitness) to get back in control quickly. You've learned now how to lose weight smile

Tea I've lost 4 stones and still don't know my exact current dress either. I haven't had time to go shopping (and there's still a bit of fear there too) and my old clothes still fit because I wear quite loose fitting clothes. I'll wait until summer them brave the shops.

KettleCrunch Fri 15-Mar-13 18:00:40

Hi all, been pointed over here by BsshBossh having tried to lose weight through various fads methods in the past but failed. One such attempt involved the day I decided to try fasting and by 4pm was roaming the house picking fights with everyone, like a mad lioness. Not my most dignified hour.

Anyway I'm now on MFP again and I mean it this time, doing lots of exercise (even though I'm terrible, just terrible at gym classes) including C25k, and feeling motivated! Got about two and a half stone to lose.

Already feeling very inspired by some of the stories on this thread! I hope you don't mind another chief tagging along...

Tea it looks like you've had an amazing achievement. Do you think you might take up hockey again? I bet you'd have so much fun!

RandallPinkFloyd Fri 15-Mar-13 18:22:14

Welcome Kettle!

Bloody well done Tea that's bloody amazing 71lb shock, absolutely amazing. I can't imagine how good it must feel to be at your goal. You must be so proud of yourself.

Bssh you're flipping amazing too, half a stone to go!

I don't dance in front of people or mirrors, it's a rule I've made for everyone's benefit. 2 drinks and I think I'm Margot Fonteyne. I'm not. I'm chubby, ungainly and far from young enough to get away with it.

bambie you can join lizzy and I in the tall gal category. Soon we shall be willowy instead of Amazonian!

11 stone at 5'11 seems very low, although apparently I can be 5'8/9 and be 8 stone! I'd be ecstatic with 10 but that would mean a total loss of 5 stone, daunting to say the very least.

I find it very difficult to know what's the right weight for me as I think I must carry it all over, even at my biggest I was only a size 16. I'm now a 14 yet I've still got 17lb to go just to hit the top of healthy on the BMI chart.

Ah well, all that's a long way off so no point withering in about it now I suppose. Onwards and downwards.

KettleCrunch Fri 15-Mar-13 18:55:20

Ooh can I join the tall gal crew too? I'm 5ft 11. It is amazing how overweight you can be according to the BMI calculator when you're tall, but still fit into 16s and 14s... I suppose when you're tall there are just more places to stash it all!

I'd really like to be 11 stone, as that's a nice round figure midway through the 'healthy' BMI range for me, and I remember being that weight and being pretty happy with it. That was a good six years ago now though!!

SylviaDaisyPouncer Fri 15-Mar-13 19:01:03

Evening Chiefs!

I hope everyone is doing well? tea and bshh you really have done so amazingly well. Gives me so much determination to beat my weight problems once and for all.

Welcome kettle you have come to the right place for support and motivation. I'm still quite a new recruit and have never felt so positive about being in this for the long haul. My weight has gone up and down for years. The last time I lost a lot of weight I got pregnant with dd (after years of ttc) and the pounds piled on which led to stones and here I am now!

2 lb off this week and really happy. Going in the right direction and I know it's going to take a long time to get to my goal. 3 lb more and I will have lost a stone, that's my focus right now. Small steps and all that....

Booking flights this evening for our summer holiday. Dh parents live in Spain so it's ideal for us, a lovely break and dc get to see their grandparents.

I have to work part of the weekend so if I don't get back on, have a great weekendsmile

BsshBossh Fri 15-Mar-13 19:45:27

kettle hellllooooo! grin

Oh my word Chiefs have you seen this thread on the MFP boards full of incredibly inspiring before and after photos of successful dieters and exercisers. I am in awe and kind of wish I'd taken photos of myself too though actually, no, too British, too Indian.

That thread alone will keep me chugging on....

Lizzylou Fri 15-Mar-13 19:56:00

Welcome Kettle and well done SDP.

Bssh, I will have a look at that. I often go on MFP and look at the success stories, very motivational.

Didn't make body pump, DH back too late, never mind. Park run tomorrow morning. I am almost ready for my bed anyway blush

DoubleMum Fri 15-Mar-13 20:39:36

Welcome Kettle, and ace job Sylvia.
I have survived my DD's birthday party, 11 noisy 7 & 8 yr olds at Lush. The 2 staff were excellent, I'd highly recommend it for a girl's party. I stood up the whole time, I wonder if that counts as exercise?! And I sniffed the triple layer chocolate cake.

BsshBossh Fri 15-Mar-13 20:55:26

Double how are you feeling now, still bleugh or better?

DoubleMum Fri 15-Mar-13 21:06:08

Just a bit mini-bleugh now. But at least I do have a pot of chocolate cupcake face mask. And the girls wore gloves to make it.

WiseKneeHair Fri 15-Mar-13 21:15:06

Hi Chiefs.
Sorry you're feeling crap double hope you feel better soon.
Tea what an inspiration! You've done brilliantly <faints at the thought of losing 71lbs> and will be able to keep it of, we have confidence in you. Good luck with the job hunting, imagine how fab you are going to look when you walk into that interview room.
Well done everyone else.
I'm on the train again! Should be home in 30-40 minutes, can't wait to see the DC (although they better be in bed) and DH need a big hug. I've had a great time, but really ready to get back home now and back to normal. Could do with a lie in tomorrow, but suspect after being on solo childcare duty for 3 days, DH is going to want some input from me. grin
I'm a bit over calories today, but I'm really pleased with how I've done over the last few days that I'm not going to stress about it. Think I might need to run, week 5 of C25K <gulp>, and do a bit of Jillian tomorrow.
Welcome kettle I want to join the tall gal crew, but at 5'2.5", don't think I'll be allowed. It's not fair.

DoubleMum Fri 15-Mar-13 21:20:33

Wise we'll have to be the short girl crew unfortunately. You did really well to keep it all under control for 3 days.

SylviaDaisyPouncer Fri 15-Mar-13 22:01:43

wise I bet it will be lovely to be back homesmile

double a Lush party sounds fantastic, I'm sure standing uses calories and can be classed as mild exercise!

I too am short (ish), 5'4". My weight has nowhere to hide and has been camping out across my hips thighs and bum for a long while!

KettleCrunch Fri 15-Mar-13 22:36:19

Big respect to the short girl crew. I've always wished I was at least six inches shorter than I am. I hate feeling lanky and outsized and awkward!

Lizzylou I'm going to my first body pump class on monday, any tips?!

double that Lush party sounds pretty energetic... definitely calorie-burning!

Had a takeaway curry tonight but still within my calorie limits on MFP if I account for going to the gym earlier, so off the hook there hopefully. Phew. Baking cakes tomorrow for the rugby though, but hopefully I'll manage to avoid eating huge lumps of icing during the baking process to 'make sure it's OK'...

WiseKneeHair Sat 16-Mar-13 09:16:42

It is lovely to be home grin and sleep in my own bed with DH and random child
My shoulders are aching today, so I think pulling my suitable expended more energy than I gave it credit for!
Kettle I haven't done body pump for years, but used to really enjoy it and get very sweaty. I'm HappyKite on MFP if you want to add me.
I'm 0.2lb up after my few days away, so very happy with that. It's pouring down here, so think I'm going to be running in the rain today sad

kalidanger Sat 16-Mar-13 09:40:31

Morning. May I say that the average height for a British woman is 5'3 3/4... Which is what I am, and I always say I'm 5'4 and I feel much better knowing I'm precisely average and not a short arse grin Not sure why exactly, but I do have mates at 5' and 4'10. They are short arses.

Hate weekends. My porridge & banana breakfast habit is out of the window as I'm disorganised sad Going to have a cinnamon bagel with low fat Philly-type stuff and perhaps some onion chutney dolloped on top hmm

Lizzylou Sat 16-Mar-13 10:05:58

Kettle, tell the instructor it is your first time and start off with low weights, you can always add more.
Double, hope you are feeling better today.
Well done wise on your restraint!
Parkrun done in the drizzle, was a bit easier this week. Still looked like a red faced panting guppy at the end though!!!

KettleCrunch Sat 16-Mar-13 10:58:11

I've added you Wise smile

Pouring down here too! I looked out of the window first thing to assess the situation and saw a man running down our road in just a t shirt and shorts, completely drenched. I took it as a sign that I should stop being such a wuss and just get out there. So I'll go for a run before lunch... sigh...

Thanks for the body pump advice everyone. I will start on the lowest of the low weights. If they have a feather as an option, I'll take it grin and then build up to the serious stuff, obviously.

Why oh why do I always go over my MFP allowance on sugar, even if I'm well under on calories? I don't eat that much chocolate...

BambieO Sat 16-Mar-13 11:43:16

Well I went to my friends last night and they drank five bottles of wine between them and I abstained hahaha luckily the car was good motivation as it was freezing!!!

Had chicken and sweet potato wedges (rather too muh chicken but no skin!) and stayed within cals so not too bad.

Hurrah for the tall ladies and average heights smile haha I would have liked to be 5'8 but no luck bastard genes but I guess that would leave me less room to hide this poxy baby fat that is still clinging on!

Good luck today ladies

dinkydoos Sat 16-Mar-13 16:15:31

Hello all newbies, I'm dinkydoos1943 on mfp, so feel free to add me.
No real loss weight loss I don't think this week, but managing to maintain the lowest point of last week ( fasting makes you fluctuate like crazy)
Just did some half hearted squash and swimming with kids, actually more like quarter hearted.... And now baked muffins so had to have one grin
Only got couple of weeks till holiday, really want another 2 or three pounds off so will try and up the exercise next week.

Have a nice weekend all, didn't have any wine last night so am counting down to wine time today!

DoubleMum Sat 16-Mar-13 18:30:14

Ooh dear, was at Ikea for lunch and now there is Dominos!!! Birthday weekends are bad.

KettleCrunch Sat 16-Mar-13 19:39:29

Had to abandon my run before the end as I thought I was going to drown, the rain was that bad! Still got about 15 minutes of running done, though, and all in one go as my app stopped working and I didn't realise so just kept running... I thought it was taking a long time to tell me to start walking!

Tonight I will mostly be trying not to eat all the cupcakes from today's baking session.

BambieO Sat 16-Mar-13 22:30:43

Terrible evening, have been rowing with DH and it all came to a head. All sorted now but with wine and takeaway sad haven't este anything all day till now

DoubleMum Sat 16-Mar-13 22:39:29

Oh dear Bambie, hope you're OK.

BambieO Sat 16-Mar-13 23:12:26

I'm ok thanks double, just the trials and tribulations of life I guess. We are still adapting from a twosome to a three unit with DS. Just feels like I have lost my identity a bit

BambieO Sun 17-Mar-13 08:08:42

Another day, a good food day smile lets go!

Lizzylou Sun 17-Mar-13 08:44:01

Hope everyone is good.
Kettlecise soon, we have woken to some snow as well.
Bambie, hope you are ok. It is a big adjustment. Remember it well. You must eat though!

KettleCrunch Sun 17-Mar-13 10:13:39

Oh dear Bambie sad hope things are feeling a little better now. It's such a hard time. I have days where I feel exactly the same. And these kinds of situations are exactly what wine and takeaway is for! Every healthy eating regime can accommodate days like these once in a while. And today is, as you say, a new food day smile

Hope everyone has a good Sunday!

BsshBossh Sun 17-Mar-13 11:23:47

Bambie my entire first year with DD was huge adjustment period for DH and I. It does get much, much easier. Hang in there.

BsshBossh Sun 17-Mar-13 19:35:30

<off topic alert>

Ok ladies, I have decided to stay away from Mumsnet (and the rest of the Internet except email and my work) for the next three days, just to see if I can and also to see how my productivity and spare time fares. I spend far too much free time surfing so it's my little experiment.

If you see me here or on MFP forums please kick me up the arse!

BambieO Sun 17-Mar-13 19:36:16

Thanks so much all smile feel much better now I got it all off my chest. Feels silly really as DS really is an angel, so easy so I don't know why sometimes the smallest thing feels so hard!

Need to get my motivation back on track big time. Jillian won't know what hits her tomorrow haha

DoubleMum Sun 17-Mar-13 20:59:00

Bssh don't leave us <sobs>
Bambie glad you're feeling better. DD's 8th birthday here, and we went to see Oz the Great and Powerful (utter tripe, please don't waste your money) and her lunch choice was Yo Sushi, which isn't too bad calorie-wise. Birthday cake too, but since I didn't need much apart from lunch I could fit in.

BambieO Sun 17-Mar-13 21:15:44

Glad you had a lovely day! I have never been to yo-sushi, is it any good?

Thanks for the heads up on the film I wanted to see that but won't bother haha

KettleCrunch Sun 17-Mar-13 21:19:01

Bssh we'll miss you! You're the reason I'm over here in the first place.

Glad you're feeling better now Bambie. Hope you kick Jillian's ass tomorrow!

DoubleMum Yo Sushi is delicious - your DD has excellent taste! Though I often find I can rack up quite a bill in there, just grabbing plates off the little production line thing. Dangerous! Sounds like you kept things well under control though smile

In other news, bloody hell, I just found out there are 444 calories in one Tesco naan shock MFP is an eye-opener.

DoubleMum Sun 17-Mar-13 21:43:20

I hardly ever get to eat Japanese, so Yo Sushi, although far from the best sushi, is a treat for me. They now do some set menus where you get a bundle price so it can be reasonable (and those are calorie counted), but DD and DH like the expensive stuff and as it was DD's birthday I let her pick what she wanted.
Tesco naan must be very buttery Kettle, I'm sure the Sharwood naans aren't that much.

KettleCrunch Sun 17-Mar-13 22:01:34

Yeah I'll be choosing my naans a lot more carefully from now on.

Oh I didn't know that they did set menus! I'll have to go back and check them out. I bet you had a lovely afternoon smile I hardly ever get to eat Japanese either - the Boots Shapers lunch sushi things don't count!

Thanks Chiefs for all the wise pieces of advice. I have thought about what you've said over the weekend and it boils down to trusting myself to stay at target. For some reason, I don't trust myself to stay here. So as Bssh highlights there is fluctuation on fasting I will, hopefully, go down a bit more to accommodate the fasting fluctuation and then move to 1:6 and see how that goes. I hope you don't mind if I stay. So I have a new target of 5lbs.

Double - hope you're feeling better.

Wise as my Glaswegian father always used to say when returning from being away "Hame'il dae me" grin

Kettle <squeeze> Gosh. I've been there. I felt I'd lost my mojo for a couple of years after my DS was born but it does come back with bells on well, it if you count "with bells on" as shouting at people to put their bloody shoes on whilst trying to make sure everyone's got their stuff for school, then it does

I had a bad weekend for calories (which kind of explains why I don't trust myself) but a good weekend for fun and food and friends. And booze featured heavily. Gah. I was inspired by the thread to run on Saturday afternoon before the worst happened to try and keep it under control. And I enjoyed it! shock

Fasting twice this week as off to St Maarten on Thursday and I suspect that jet lag, a wedding and rum will see me stuffing my face for the four days I'm there.

Right off for a job interview <channels her inner Rocky>

Gah Bambie not Kettle ... oh, feck this interview's going to be challenging <weeps>

KettleCrunch Mon 18-Mar-13 08:52:41

Tea well done for enjoying your run! And glad you had a lovely time with friends. That's a good time to eat a bit more - far healthier when food indulgence is just once in a while with friends, than when it's every single night as a stress reliever like I used to do.

I'm planning to go out today with my newly-working running watch but it's just SO grey and miserable... not particularly inspiring weather!

Overdid it yesterday too - saw some friends and we all went a bit mad with cake and G&Ts. It was lovely, but went over my calorie allowance (though not by too much). I might try fasting again this week, just to see how it goes.

Lizzylou Mon 18-Mar-13 09:15:33

Hmmm sushi!
Hmmm rum and sunshine!

Well done on doing and enjoying your run Tea.

Have eaten lots this weekend, but also exercised a lot too, reining it in this week though. Hoping for a quick 30min run (well not v quick, more of a lumber!) after work, if the bloody snow stays off!

DoubleMum Mon 18-Mar-13 09:45:07

Tea you'll be fine if you just stay aware of the balance - so have fun, enjoy, but balance it for the rest of the week/month. Definitely have fun at the wedding celebrations!

RandallPinkFloyd Mon 18-Mar-13 11:04:23

Bambie you're doing fine, the first year is really hard for everyone. Anyone who says it isn't is a liar. It's the reason I'm fat! I lost my baby-weight in literally hours and came out of hospital in my normal clothes; then preceded to pile on 3 stone in the following year by eating crap blush

(Although H having an affair and us separating when DS was 4mo certainly didn't help!)

Bssh good luck!

Tea I can totally understand how you feel, you've lost so much it must be terrifying to actually stop dieting. You can do it though, one day at a time.

Double I've never actually been to a Yo Sushi. We don't have any here because I live in the arse end of nowhere. God I'm so provincial!

Lizzy you're so impressive with all your exercise. You put me to shame. You too Kettle. Once I shake off this cold I'm going to get the wii set up and get Zumba-ing. If I don't make sure you kick me up the arse.

I may have had a little blow out on Saturday celebrating the 6 nations with friends but reined it back in yesterday so managed to stay under for the week. We'll see how pissed off the scales are with me on Wednesday!

Onwards and downwards chiefs smile

BambieO Mon 18-Mar-13 12:12:46

Thanks Randall flowers

Tabbykat Mon 18-Mar-13 13:29:45

So fed up with this grim weather! Have downloaded week 2 of the c25k but it's just foul here. Had intended to do it this afternoon while DD2 at pre-school but people have kept phoning and dropping round and now don't have enough time before I have to collect DD1 from school, plus it's pouring with rain. Will have to do some exercise this evening indoors and tackle the run on Wednesday.

Tried not to go too mad at the weekend and will hopefully be good this week Am definitely more toned in the legs but sadly it's my stomach that's really awful and I think sit-ups are really the only cure.....

Lizzylou Mon 18-Mar-13 18:33:15

Just been for a run with Dh. Sooo cold, took your breath away. But done now. We are going to go every Monday whilst we are childfree for an hour.
I had proposed another fatburning pastime. Dh declined as he training for a triathlon. Ho hum.

KettleCrunch Mon 18-Mar-13 19:01:17

Sooo cold and sleety and miserable today. I was going to go out for a run but I just couldn't face it - things got on top of me and the weather is just vicious. Freezing and windy and wet and the kind of sleet that just goes right down your neck. Horrible. Just checked BBC weather and it looks like it will stay that way for the rest of the week too sad so I'll have to brave it at some point. Maybe first thing in the morning, to get it over with.

Randall gotta have a blowout for the 6 nations - we did too. Just have to be sensible the rest of the week I suppose!

Lizzylou Mon 18-Mar-13 19:20:41

Kettle, yes lancashire same. We were lucky that no sleet when we went out. If it wasn't for dh I wouldn't have gone. No fear!

KettleCrunch Mon 18-Mar-13 19:41:18

Lizzy, MASSIVE respect to you and DH for braving it!

Lizzylou Mon 18-Mar-13 19:58:51

Kettle, DH was very much the driving force. I was ready to get PJs on and snuggle up in front of the fire!
My natural state is sloth-like, which is why I do exercise that I am forced to finish, like an exercise class or Parkrun. Too embarrassing to quit!

DoubleMum Tue 19-Mar-13 07:29:17

Aargh, I have put 1/2 lb on. Too many treats this week and not enough vegetables. Back on it Chiefs.

RandallPinkFloyd Tue 19-Mar-13 08:16:47

1/2 a pound's nothing, a teeny tiny blip.

It's a marathon not a sprint chief, onwards and downwards!

Lizzylou Tue 19-Mar-13 09:00:16

Double, Randall is right. 1/2 lb is not even a poo!
<<sorry for bringing thread down>>

Did you watch Paul Hollywood kneading bread last night? I think I burned off another couple of 100 cals swooning blush

kalidanger Tue 19-Mar-13 09:16:51

Morning chiefs! Thanks for kind words on MFP. 4lbs lost last week - I'm amazed. As I've said it's because I'm just eating about a third less than I used to, so being An Ordinary Eater instead of a monster. Not even dieting yet, I don't think.

But anyway - is 'water weight' an actual thing? Or a made-up thing? confused

Normal fluctuations Double - I was 2lbs up yesterday but only 1lb today - some weeks I work hard to stay still - others it jumps. Bet next week is a big one! Loss not poo <joins Lizzy in bringing the thread's tone down>

Kali feck me chief! That is all. Oh. And well done.

By water weight do you mean fluid retention around TOM? I think this exists. But it's only based on how bloated I feel when AF is approaching.

DoubleMum Tue 19-Mar-13 09:33:44

OK <joins in bringing thread tone way down> I need to do a poo.
My (smaller size) trousers are actually feeling slightly looser this morning.
Kali that's brilliant!

kalidanger Tue 19-Mar-13 09:42:12

Tea I'm not sure what I mean really grin It's just that 4lbs seems a lot and I'm wondering if it's for some other reason than me being so good, iyswim. Don't know why I'm casting around for it to not be because I've stuck to the diet etc, and so ready to 'blame' something else.... bleh smile

RandallPinkFloyd Tue 19-Mar-13 09:46:02

Blimey Kali you rock at this! Don't put yourself down, you made that weight loss happen, it didn't happen on it's own. You should be bloody proud of yourself.

(*Lizzy*, I think we're on a similar wave length. I may have made a turd related comment on Double's MFP status blush )

Lizzylou Tue 19-Mar-13 09:48:52

Kali, you worked hard and lost 4lbs, accept it!
Double, see, it's just "body fluctuations", if your waist band is looser then you are losing!

I am like Tea and tend to gain/not lose around AF.

I may go for another run tonight if I have chance. or I may not grin

A colleague at work has just started that bonkers Insanity from the teleshopping channels, she can't walk today grin She also offered to copy it for me shock

RandallPinkFloyd Tue 19-Mar-13 09:56:34

Who are you on MFP Kali I don't think I have you on there for some reason?

kalidanger Tue 19-Mar-13 10:01:18

Thankyouthankyouthankyou all.

I've never dared attempt a diet before. I was always 100% sure I'd fail. So, this is a really fucking big deal. You're all such an amazing inspiration, and should be so proud.

Swimming tomorrow.

kalidanger Tue 19-Mar-13 10:11:21

Randall Same username as here smile

Tabbykat Tue 19-Mar-13 11:57:02

Lizzie That Insanity thing looks.......well, insane! Let us know how you get on if you decide to go for it - you are seriously hardcore!

RandallPinkFloyd Tue 19-Mar-13 12:38:16

I shall be attempting nothing with the word insanity in the title.

That way traction lies.

DoubleMum Tue 19-Mar-13 12:42:38

Quite right.

TheTigerDidntComeToTea Tue 19-Mar-13 13:07:01

Afternoon all,

Bssh - amazing to see your stats like that, well done!

Tea - you're also amazing, wow 71lbs!

Hi Kettle!

Sylvia - well done, I'm trying to reach that first stone too, feels like a big milestone to hit!

Double - are you feeling better? Sounds like a great party for your dd.

Wise - I won't be allowed in the tall club either 5'5.5" here.

LizzyLou - well done on the parkrun, there is one near me so its on my list for later in the year (and 2 stone lighter than now!). And yes - oh yes - to Paul Hollywood...

Hi to everyone else, sorry I'm trying to keep up but not doing so well. I spent Friday and Saturday in bed with the worst cold & sore throat ever, and I never stay in bed, but I am so tired from toddler dd waking every single night, and I am getting a hard time at work, and the weather is miserable and I don't know, I just felt like I had to STOP. Sounds a bit pathetic but I don't care! Anyway I ate so much (feed a cold??), including home made chocolate chip cookies and I forgot to log on to mfp blush. I was dreading the scales this morning and thought I'd have to come on here and get into trouble but I've actually lost. Do you think having a temperature burns more calories or something??
So I have my chief hat back on and I am choosing my hard - I will go to the gym tonight and try to sweat out the remains of this virus!

Happy tuesday afternoon to all! flowers

Isabeller Tue 19-Mar-13 17:19:54

Thank you for the link to this thread Randall (waves to Kali) hope it's ok to just lurk for now. Starting to get the hang of MFP and at the start of trying to lose 3 stone.

RandallPinkFloyd Tue 19-Mar-13 17:54:06

Hi Isabeller welcome welcome.

I'm RandallFloyd on MFP, feel free to add me if you want to.. If you scroll back you'll probably find everyone else's too but if you want to go through my friend list instead I only have chiefs on there so I'm sure they'd be happy to add you.

Seeing other people's diaries really help's, you can pick up some great ideas. The fact that people can also see yours is rather sobering too!

BambieO Tue 19-Mar-13 18:23:16

I have fallen so far off the wagon I'm in Mexico ladies. Help me sad

KettleCrunch Tue 19-Mar-13 18:27:01

Hello everyone! Wow, this thread's been moving fast. Hi Isabeller!

Oh Kali I know what you mean about dieting being a big deal. It's like... how can it possibly work?! I'm hoping I will have lost a bit by the time I weigh in at the end of the week. In the meantime it's taking almost as much willpower not to step on the scales as it is to not eat a second cupcake!

The miserable weather is seemingly making it so much harder - I've been feeling rubbish and demotivated and just wanting to self-medicate with endless rounds of milky hot chocolate. BUT I've ordered a thermal hat, running gloves and baselayer which should make running outside a slightly more appealing prospect... no surrender!

KettleCrunch Tue 19-Mar-13 18:31:44

Bambie didn't see you there! Be calm. Tomorrow is another day. Do you use Pinterest? I like to browse it for healthy recipes and pretty clothes so I feel a bit more motivated sometimes. Or do you have time to give yourself a bit of attention, like a bath or even just trying something new with makeup/hair etc, so you look after yourself a bit and remember that you're worth the effort to get a bit healthier and fitter? You can do this! And it will be SO worth it when you do. <gets cheerleading pompoms out>

And don't worry, I just checked and the wagon is scheduled to make a stop in Mexico to pick up struggling Chiefs... it's due with you in the next hour! Now isn't that handy? wink

BambieO Tue 19-Mar-13 18:36:20

That is handy! grin

I can't believe it, after sorting things with DH I have gone back to being 'comfortable' but I don't want to be comfortable! I want to be happy like I was when I was losing the weight. It's so hard sad all of my happy associations come from food! Nights in with a lovely dinner, lunch with friends, dinner at parents/ILs. Absolutely everything!

KettleCrunch Tue 19-Mar-13 18:44:57

Totally! A short list of my absolute favourite things:

1. Curling up on the sofa with a book and a packet of biscuits.
2. Getting pizza with girlfriends.
3. Big family Sunday lunch.
4. Cooking comfort food for my family, eg sausage bake, fish pie, beef stew.
5. Krispy Kremes.

It is very hard to realign my favourite things to be something more along these lines:

1. A juicy salad.
2. A long run.
3. Weight training.
4. Not eating.
5. Still not eating.

It's just not the same, is it?

DoubleMum Tue 19-Mar-13 18:50:28

Welcome Isabeller. I'm the same name on MFP.
Bambi don't panic! Having one bad day doesn't mean the end - just get back on the wagon tomorrow, or later tonight.

Lizzylou Tue 19-Mar-13 18:52:40

Welcome Isabeller, I am lizzyloum on mfp, feel free to add me.
Bambie, hopefully kettle has rescued you from Mexico!
Things that keep me going (esp during exercise) visualising how I will look on holiday when I am slim. How I will be confident to go swimming and not scuttle quickly to the changing rooms. How much better my clothes will fit me.
Also try drinking lots of water to ward off hunger.
I make bets with myself, so if I have wine planned, I have to have burned x amounts of calories burnt that day.

I sound a bit shallow and obsessed. I just want to feel comfortable and confident in my own skin is all. Life is stressful enough without worrying that my stomach is hanging over the top of my jeans!

kalidanger Tue 19-Mar-13 19:45:52

I sound a bit shallow and obsessed

I was 'warned' (by an unhelpful someone) not to get obsessed with it all. I think that's mostly nonsense. What the hell else are we going to do unless we take it seriously? Ive probably got more to say about this hit I'm on my phone.

waves to Isabeller this is a LOVELY thread! One thing - I found it far more helpful to translate the stones into ponds, then pick a round (hah) number. I'm trying to lose 50lbs. And I have no idea what that is in stones Half a second mental arthimetic to calculate but I shan't. Pounds are a mysterious measurement and myth easier to deal with than a huge massive stone. Just my experience smile

Someone (also unhelpful) offered me a pick at their chips at lunch and it was an easy refusal. No barcode = no noms wink

kalidanger Tue 19-Mar-13 19:46:50

Much, not myth*

DoubleMum Tue 19-Mar-13 20:03:11

Oh yes, I'm totally obsessed. It's the only way.

kalidanger Tue 19-Mar-13 20:17:25

DoubleMum Tell me I have to go swimming tomorrow please.

DoubleMum Tue 19-Mar-13 20:19:45

You have to go swimming tomorrow Kali. Otherwise a giant bird will come and peck at you, not nice at all, and probably your fingers will turn purple, and the sky will fall, and all kinds of pestilence will be visited on mankind. So it's really quite important that you go swimming tomorrow. But no pressure.

kalidanger Tue 19-Mar-13 20:31:55

A giant bird.

You big silly grin Thank you. <leapsoffsifatogatherstuff>

KettleCrunch Tue 19-Mar-13 21:04:02

Crikey Kali please go swimming! I don't want us all to be pestilence-ridden.

DoubleMum Tue 19-Mar-13 21:05:01

Yay it worked! Glad we can avoid all that pestilence.

DoubleMum Tue 19-Mar-13 21:07:33

Now someone needs to come up with a compelling reason for me to attempt an exercise DVD tomorrow, despite my living room being really quite full of 5 flat-pack Ikea wardrobes. Not sure I can even reach the DVD player actually.

kalidanger Tue 19-Mar-13 21:13:00

Isn't pestilence supposed to be quite slimming? Like D&V bug? hmm

The compelling reason to do the DVD is your continued successful weightloss <saintlyface> But the practicalities sound a big eek. Can you stand the flat packs against the wall? Slide them behind the sofa?

RandallPinkFloyd Tue 19-Mar-13 21:28:37

Lizzy you don't sound shallow and obsessed at all, you sound motivated. And you're doing a bloody amazing job at it too.

Kettle, all my favourite things involve food and/or booze. It sucks sad
I just have to try to make sure I rein it in when I can and keep my mind on the weekly rather than daily goal. The alternative is just too miserable to contemplate and I know I wouldn't stick at it.

Bambie, see at wagon in the distance? It's pulled over to wait for you don't worry, just jump back on in the morning. No harm - no foul.

Kali go swimming <<looks sternly over glasses>>

KettleCrunch Tue 19-Mar-13 21:29:32

Double if you do the DVD then the flat-pack Ikea wardrobes will PUT THEMSELVES TOGETHER through the sheer force of your success. And if you don't do the DVD, then the flat-packs will multiply forever, and every time you assemble one, three more flat-packs will spring up in its place.

RandallPinkFloyd Tue 19-Mar-13 21:30:30

Double just build the furniture instead. The blind fury alone will burn eleventy million calories. grin

KettleCrunch Tue 19-Mar-13 21:43:50

By the way I've changed my MFP username to KettleCrunch so it's the same as on here smile feel free to add me!

DoubleMum Wed 20-Mar-13 07:43:28

I can't move the flatpacks - not even an inch, they are too heavy. For reasons much like that one I can't build them on my own either, and I fear if I try to build 5 wardrobes that might be the end of my marriage.
On the plus side that 1/2 lb has gone like the wind, ha ha in your face licked spoon!

Lizzylou Wed 20-Mar-13 08:57:43

Yay Double!
Hide the spoons now!

Have lost 1lb, early weigh in but am taking it grin, such slow progress but feel healthy and more toned. People are starting to notice which is nice.

Morning Chiefs.

That's great Lizzy and Double. And love the fact you're feeling more healthy and toned Lizzy.

5 wardrobes shock

I've got my Mum coming tonight to look after the kids so I'm hoping for a noticing that I'm 9/10ths the person she last saw too. But I won't hold my breathe - I don't tend to get a look in the first evening due to the over excited GC wanting to show her everything grin

I will never lick a spoon again without either saying in my head or out loud "haha, in your face spoon licking""

<sends swimming vibes to Kali>

<nods at Randall because she's the same, a night with friends has to have booze and food>

LillethTheCat Wed 20-Mar-13 09:29:36

Sooo is this the thread for MFP then?

What do you do if you don't cook and dont want to tell DH (or whoever does the cooking) that you are calorie counting?

I did start the week thinking about the 5:2, but after a disastrous start I actually think I might be able to manage this if it's what I think it is.

Do I just stick to under 1500 calories inc exercise everyday with this plan?

KettleCrunch Wed 20-Mar-13 09:39:17

Hi Lilleth! I reckon if you don't want to tell DH you're calorie counting you could do more exercise and then say, 'Wow, this exercise is weirdly making me less hungry. Do you think I could have a smaller portion size? I just feel so active and energetic that I don't think I need as much as usual! I read an article somewhere that said this could happen...' etc. Or you could just eat the same food as DH for dinner but cut down on your breakfasts, lunch and snacks in a way that he might not notice?

I'm sure some other folks on here will be able to help you with finding out roughly how many calories you should be consuming. I think this thread is really all about eating less (but not excluding anything), logging on MFP and moving around more - the NHS-approved (I think) way to lose weight. Oh, and it's also about finding motivation! For example, if Kali doesn't go swimming then everyone on earth will die of a terrible pestilence. It's really very serious.

I had a sneaky mid-week weigh-in this morning and I weigh exactly the same. Sigh. I think I should probably drop my daily calories a bit more.

RandallPinkFloyd Wed 20-Mar-13 09:46:55

Hi Lileth come on in, take a seat, tell us little bit about yourself. <<plumps over-sized cushions>>

If you put your height and weight and goal into MFP it tells you how many calories to have. It's a stingey bastard though so you can set your own calorie goal if you prefer.

If you really don't want to say anything to your DH just go for smaller amounts for now. When MFP tells you how many calories are in your mammoth perfectly reasonable sized portions you'll be too horrified to eat for the first few days anyway. Or was that just me? blush

I'm RandallFloyd on MFP, I would recommend sharing your diary, it really is a great motivator. (Still living with the shame of my hula hoops and beer day)

Well done Lizzy, you're our very own Mr Motivator!

Very envy of Double's gigantic house. I couldn't fit 5 wardrobes in my house never mind my lounge. I would recommend leaving for a week whilst someone else builds them though.

Lizzylou Wed 20-Mar-13 09:58:33

Hi Lilleth!
It is easier if you can get your DH on board, but perfectly doable to make healthy, low cal tasty food for both of you. He need never know until you sashay around the living room parading your newly svelte body in a thong and tassels. Or is that just my personal goal?!

MFP really makes you think about your food choices and inspires you to exercise more. I am LizzylouM on there.

Randall is mistress of having a good old blow out at the weekend and then reigning it back in for a loss during the week. A rare talent indeed!

grin Kettle @ pestilence if kali doesn't swim. We'll all know who to blame Kali!

Yes Double, I wondered how big a house would be to have 5 wardrobes!

Tabbykat Wed 20-Mar-13 09:59:48

Morning chiefs! So, are you attempting Insanity Lizzie?

Have loads of work - three articles due in today so should really be doing that instead of fartarsing around on MN - ho hum. Trying to stay off the biscuits which is my usual deadline avoidance activity. Am determined to attempt R1W2 of c25k this afternoon while DD2 at pre-school as was just too rainy on Monday and don't want to fall behind or I'll never manage it!

RandallPinkFloyd Wed 20-Mar-13 10:04:38

Now I just sound like a lush grin

Lizzylou Wed 20-Mar-13 10:11:16

Tabby, strangely can't find a memory stick for my friend to copy it onto wink

I will not follow the programme (1hour a day 6 days a week for 60 days) as I am really enjoying running/spinning and kettlecise. Like variety. Will aim for at least 1 workout a week I think. I did see that the evil Shaun T who dreamt up Insanity does an Insane abs one that is only 15mins long. I could do that every morning.

LillethTheCat Wed 20-Mar-13 10:17:57

<sits on over-sized cushion and gets comfy>

Im 5ft 5 and weigh 11st 9. Id like to weigh anything between 9st 7 and 10st. Im a size 14 top and 16 bottom. Id like to be a size 10-12 so Ive not got a huge amount to lose. My BMI is 27 so needs to come down a bit too.

I enjoy running and have an exercise bike which never gets used although over the winter with the cold weather Ive not been exercising as much as I could. I do have plans to get my running up to 4 times a week.

In the past Ive found that during the warmer and lighter months its much easier to lose weight. This time last year I weighed 12st4 and I got down to 11st 4, but I have gained 5lbs since October. Its not bad going, but now its officially spring <ignores the snowy weather outside> I want to start losing again. I only really lost weight last year as I took up running and stopped eating so much, but I didn't really look at my food in much detail. This year Im going to attempt to lose more than a stone.

Im not on MFP yet, but will be by the end of the day. Im just worried about how to add some of my evening meals when I dont have a clue how many calories or how big my portions are in some ingredients and meals, although of course for some things I can find out and will. I was thinking in days like that (once or twice a week) I should try to have 500 calories all day apart from that meal. Does that sound ok?

LillethTheCat Wed 20-Mar-13 10:22:49

I dont want to tell DH as he always says Im average and he doesn't see why I want to lose weight. If I tell him about the health benefits etc he just dismisses them and doesn't really believe that one stone could make a lot of difference. Yesterday he said something along the lines of mocking people who starve themselves just to be slim because society says they should. He doesn't understand why anyone would want to not eat something that they enjoy. I guess he thinks that as I like cake I should eat it if I want.

Its just a lot easier to just get on with it and not really tell him Im actively trying to lose weight.

RandallPinkFloyd Wed 20-Mar-13 10:34:15

You'd be surprised what MFP knows. You can always weigh your plate for "food soup" type meals like stews and chillies and things like that.

For example if you search for homemade spag bol you'll get plenty of results from what other people have entered. You won't get an exact number but you'll get a good idea.

LillethTheCat Wed 20-Mar-13 10:43:48

shock MFP has given me an allowance of 1200 calories. I was thinking it would be a bit more than that. Whenever Ive looked in the past about how many calories I use up in a normal day its always around 2000 mark so was hoping for 1500 calories. Oh well its only 300 calories less than I thought.

Feeling really scared I can't do this now.

KettleCrunch Wed 20-Mar-13 10:47:41

You don't have to do 1200 calories. I failed when I tried to keep that up. If 1500 would be easier for you then I'm sure you'd still lose weight, especially if you're doing exercise!

RandallPinkFloyd Wed 20-Mar-13 10:49:45

1200 calories is fuck all <<bitter>>

It's fine for just a normal day but you're bolloxed if you want any treats at all.

That's why I prefer to look at it as a weekly goal rather than daily. Much more sustainable for me that way.

kalidanger Wed 20-Mar-13 10:51:41

My bag is packed with cozzy & goggles and is sat waiting on the door mat. We'll make it through together, guys.

Lilleth My ex was an enormous pain about food. Not like yours at all, more overtly controlling angry He'd insist on a big dinner with meat everyday and it was just THE WEIRDEST THING EVER, apparently, if I didnt fancy it or wanted a sandwich or apple & cheese or something. Since dumping him (yes!) 10lbs just fell off, and I settled back to Fat instead of The Fattest I've Ever Been hmm Don't let yours control what you're doing with your body and health with his unhelpful opinions. He can have a view but it's not up to him <fistbump>

Oh, and calories; try using MFP while eating normally. You'll see how many cals you ordinarily consume and it'll give you a better idea of whether 1200 makes sense or not.

kalidanger Wed 20-Mar-13 10:55:21

And for home cooked stuff - I weigh everything. I guesstimate cups but weigh pasta and veg etc. you'll soon get an idea of what you're doing.

1200 sounds low, I agree. Have you put in that you're very active? Weighed yourself today?

LillethTheCat Wed 20-Mar-13 10:59:11

If I told DH he'd be like fair enough if that's what you want to do, but its just easier not to. I can easily have smaller proportions and Im not bothered about snacks etc. He just doesn't understand why I should want to lose weight especially since Im apparently average size (I may be AFAIK, but I have no idea what the average size is). I think he realises that the media encourage us to be size 0 and that those models and celebs you see on the covers of magazines are airbrushed and give an unreal representation so he takes it too far the other way by saying size 16 and a BMI of 27 is fine and not to worry about being slimmer.

Good idea about the weekly calorie goal randall somedays its just soooo much easier to hardly eat anything at all.

kalidanger Wed 20-Mar-13 11:02:19

I think size 16 is average grin But that's beside the point grin

LillethTheCat Wed 20-Mar-13 11:02:29

I dont cook, DH does all that so weighing things (not that we've even got scales) is all that easy TBH. I can see how many calories are in some things and divide the whole portion by 3 (taking into accounts DC's get 3rd between them, DH a third and me a third) and possibly not eat it all if I get full (I do tend to keep eating once Im full so need to get out of that one today)

I put myself down as very unactive as Im not active usually. I thought Id do that then add on exercise whether thats running 10K, 20 mins on the bike or pottering round the supermarket. Have I done that wrong then?

RandallPinkFloyd Wed 20-Mar-13 11:08:36

No that sounds fine, you can just add the exercise as you do it that way. I know there's a few on there that do a big exercise in the morning if they know they'll be having a higher cal day. Sort of cancel it out iyswim.

(I prefer to just starve the next day - unless someone with a knife is chasing me I won't be running anywhere)

Tbh once you start reading everyone's diaries you'll see how differently everyone is doing it. It's a great way to pick up ideas. You just have to find which way works for you.

kalidanger Wed 20-Mar-13 11:09:29

No, not done it wrong! Sorry, I'm not an MFP expert, just trying (& failing) to be helpful smile

BambieO Wed 20-Mar-13 11:10:55

Back on the wagon! Thanks all you lovelies flowers

LillethTheCat Wed 20-Mar-13 11:28:30

Well Ive sent requests to a couple of you just now. My NN is the same over there as it is here to save confusion. If anyone else wants to add me as a friend, please do so.

<goes off to update profile>

DoubleMum Wed 20-Mar-13 11:58:50

Welcome Lilleth. You might want to have a look at the 'in place of a roadmap' thread on MFP which might give you a more palatable calorie total than stingy old MFP does.
Bambie the wagon slows down to catch people up quite regularly.
Please banish thoughts of mansions - the wardrobes are to go in the children's tiny rooms as kind of fitted wardrobes to maximise the wall space, because they desperately need more storage space for their stuff. At the moment they are laying out taking up most of the living room floor.
I don't think I'll be in a hurry to lick a cake mix spoon again - but then it's a bad idea generally to be making cakes that you can't eat. Best to make and freeze them as quick as poss, then the DCs and DH can have them in their packed lunches and I'm not tempted. I have already succumbed to birthday cake that is sitting on the worktop this morning.