Week 2 - New Year Low Carb Bootcamp - Half way there!

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BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 08:38:07

Sorry to be a bit late this morning - no doubt you're all chomping at the bit to declare all on the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

RatherBeOnThePiste Mon 14-Jan-13 08:46:05

You were probably busy knitting.

Marks place brew

I can't spreadsheet from my phone - sorry to whoever was telling us off for non-entry! smile I'm 175.2 this morning if someone would like to do it...

Marking place & having a moan as I have lost NOTHING (actually gained a teeny amount sad). I think I may be due an AF, despite having the implant, as I have achy boobs & general icky-ness, so fingers crossed that's the reason.

Sticking with it as I know it works & I've seen good results in the past.

Well done all the losers envy, hopefully I'll be among you next week.

barleywood Mon 14-Jan-13 08:57:11

Morning smile

Stylelostinlabour Mon 14-Jan-13 08:57:42

Updated spreadsheet - nice to see 4.2% loss

BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 09:00:28

HavingAnOffDay - don't worry - it will be your menstrual cycle messing with things. If you can possibly manage it, try and drink a bit more water.

Pistey - I was trying to have a lie-in this morning, till DH very helpfully woke me up to tell me I had to wake DS2 up hmm.

Firsttimepig Mon 14-Jan-13 09:00:43

bigstick may I just ask on your list it says no nuts but I am following IPD do you think I should quit the nuts ?? The Veg list is really helpful thanks.

BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 09:04:28

It's up to you - you need to decide which plan you're following! Nuts are allowed on Bootcamp from next week, if that helps.

mumat39 Mon 14-Jan-13 09:05:06

First week loss 4.6lbs. I think I was hoping for more as I've been really good. BUT, that's the mosti've ever lost on the first week of any diet so onwards and downwards. smile

Firsttimepig Mon 14-Jan-13 09:07:34

bigstick thanks can you add me onto your sheet too ? I will keep the nuts as need the fibre. its only a small handful a day.

Sorelip Mon 14-Jan-13 09:09:52

I've lost 5lb. Not bad, considering I was drinking for 3 of those days, and had a carby day yesterday.

herecomesthsun Mon 14-Jan-13 09:09:54

I am 9lb down since last week (and 5lb down since yesterday (?how). Am slightly disbelieving. Have dualit scales which are accurate as far as I know but not terribly precise - they show kg (I'm now 80kg) but show stones and lb with divisions of 2lb.

Food yesterday - a gallon of lassi (not really exaggerating) and lots of decaf coffee with soya milk.

B: 2 eggs with Boursin
L: meatloaf, broccoli and leeks
snack : babybel, inadvertent bite of apple, cheese and mayonnaise
D: cauliflower cheese, salad, various meats, ham etc, olives

mumat39 Mon 14-Jan-13 09:11:00

Hi littlemissstano, I've added your details onto the spreadsheet. smile

mumat39 Mon 14-Jan-13 09:11:22

Sorry, littlemissstan.

BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 09:11:38

Firsttimepig - if you're eating enough veg/salad, fat and drinking enough water, you shouldn't need the extra fibre from nuts!

And when you say 'it's only a small handful' - make sure that you weigh that handful, just to work out how many carbs you're eating. I don't normally advocate weighing, because the whole point of Bootcamp is to avoid that. But when you're 'cheating' it's worth understanding how much of a cheat it actually is!

Jacaqueen Mon 14-Jan-13 09:12:33

I am 4 pounds down.

Well done everyone.

PennyHofstadter Mon 14-Jan-13 09:12:33

Weighed in this morning - 3.25lb down from Thursday which is a good start. Just hope it continues.

Wilding Mon 14-Jan-13 09:13:16

I'm only 2lb down... I know why this is but I think I could do with a bit of help to improve!

-need to drink more water
-have had trouble cutting out booze entirely (lots of big social events this month)
-eating too much cheese

Any ideas for snacks that don't include cheese or meat would be gratefully received! I know it's more tricky doing this diet as a veggie but I think if I plan better I can manage without eating cheese twice a day.

Collywibbles Mon 14-Jan-13 09:13:47

1lb off here (rounding up lbs) which is fine. I am having a horrid UC flare and am back on steroids which is a pain and haven't done any exercise since Wed so feel generally yucky.

Huge well done to all those who have had losses, and "keep the faith" to those who haven't lost or not lost as much as they would have liked. Remember it is not a race and we will all have good and bad weeks xx

BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 09:17:50

Some great losses here - brilliant! thanks

And a good reminder from Collywibbles - we aren't in a race or a competition. Some people will lose more than others, as we're all different.

If you're following the rules (you are, aren't you?) then it will happen for you.

Wilding olives make a really good, low carb snack - and if you're veggie, then you can also have nuts. Roasted macadamias are the lowest in carb. Roasted almonds are also good.

troyandabedinthemorning Mon 14-Jan-13 09:18:03

3.3lb, but that's only since Thursday morning- since my clothes are literally falling off me I think it's safe to say that if I'd had a proper start weight it would be an awful lot more.

I feel fantastic! And, even better, my husband says I look fantastic and that you can really see the weight loss smile

Boobz Mon 14-Jan-13 09:22:53

Only 1lb down since last week, and am now 112lbs. I knew these last 3lbs would be a nightmare to shift. I am only 2 weeks away from finishing my P90X work out schedule, and I really want to get down to goal weight for final Day 90 photos... just need to keep on keeping on!

Still, have lost nearly 18lbs since I started LCing on Oct 1st, so am still happy.

HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey Mon 14-Jan-13 09:26:16

Morning all, i am down just over 3lb, would have liked a little bit more but that'll do.

Hope you are all feeling positive for the week ahead.

Egg and bacon for breakfast today.

PlatoonBuffoon Mon 14-Jan-13 09:29:53

Well done to all of you! Some great losses.

Only 2lb for me in the last 10 days. I actually put a little bit back on as I was 4lb after the first few days.

Bit annoyed but reminding myself I had some great nights out (several birthdays) have been thoroughly enjoying my food and not feeling at all deprived. Plan for this week:

Try eliminating dairy (or vastly reducing)
No drinking now for a week or two
Increase water

Will see where that gets me

As I am seeing many other benefits from the WOE I have no inclination to go back to the clutches of carbs, whether or not I see fast weight loss like some of you.

Now to brave a run in the snow <stupid> < dedicated>

I'm going to weigh in at lunchtime when I take ds to his class at the leisure centre, I don't have my own scales due to being a bit mental in that dept. confused Well done everyone so far!

Lastyearsmodel Mon 14-Jan-13 09:30:40

1lb down. S preadsheet updated. Was hoping for more, but only weighed for the first time 5 days ago so not bad in 5 days. Probably need to reduce dairy - cheese is so easy to snack on. Not a fan of boiled eggs unfortunately.

Well done everyone on your successful losses!

EwanHoozami Mon 14-Jan-13 09:33:04

some tremendous losses here and on the end of the last thread. Well done everyone, bet you're all glowing and full of energy too. Thanks BIWI and Willie thanks

My excess Christmas 2lb has gone, taking with it another bonus pound. Chuffed!

BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 09:36:17

firsttimepig - I went to the spreadsheet to put you on, but you're already there!

Thanks BIWI I know that's probably the reason so I'm trying to not be disheartened.

I'm also going to record all my food on here so that I have a proper note of it for future analysis should I NOT lose again next week

So:
Breakfast: 2 eggs, scrambled with butter plus 3 slices of Edam & a pint of water

well done everyone on losses!

if you aren't able to weigh in today or would prefer to wait for another day don't worry - i don't fiddle with the spreadsheet to do biggest loser / biggest average loser etc until about friday anyway

Suttyshotty Mon 14-Jan-13 09:43:43

Hooray 3 1/2lb off, I would have preferred to lose more, but I've not perhaps been as good as I could be..... Still, on the right track and feeling much better, I've got more energy and I don't feel sluggish and bloated.smile

kandinskysgirl Mon 14-Jan-13 09:46:09

2lb down for me. I am very pleased as I completely lost it last week after a day of interviewing and got a pizza!

This week my lovely DP has already batch cooked my Low Carb meals for all week so at least I wont have any excuses to cheat.

AuntieMaggie Mon 14-Jan-13 09:47:20

6lb down grin

Really pleased as I had a few slips (please don't beat me BIWI)

ScaredySquirrel Mon 14-Jan-13 09:52:07

My batteries ran out on my scales, so I've put in Saturday's weight instead. 5lb down!

GibbsGirl Mon 14-Jan-13 09:52:37

My DH said to me last night you look really well! Must be all the water I'm drinking that's plumping up my skin grin

Down 2 lbs to 164 lbs - which is great, considering this is week 22 for me. It might be 3 lbs - the scales are analog, not digital, and I wasn't totally awake - but I'll claim 2, and any 'extra' can go towards next week's report!

Well done everyone - there are some truly brilliant losses this week. Onwards and downwards!

Morning all

Recorder weight on spreadsheet.. I did rubbish! Proves i need to drink more this week!!

Long walk after the school run this morning to blow away the cobwebs and ive just had breaky : a while 200g of prawns! Yum!
Picked up some reduced stir fry chicken so i shall fru that up with some of my savoy left from yesterday for lunch.

We should be food shopping later so ill see what i can find for tonight!!

Well done to all those who have lost this week x

NoveltySlippers Mon 14-Jan-13 09:58:25

Good morning all. Congrats on all the losses!

I was actually headed for a whopping 6lb loss this week (probably because I'm new to low carbing).

Then I went on my binge at the weekend and piled on four pounds promptly. So, my final loss is 2lb. As you can imagine, am kicking myself smile

OTTMummA Mon 14-Jan-13 10:00:04

12.2lbs down smile I am chuffed, I gained 1lb on Saturday morning and was quite disappointed, think I need to up my water intake. I still want chocolate tbh, ibam resisting, but think it is an emotional want, difficult to stop thinking about it really which is pathetic.

3lb down (Ive recorded on spreadsheet) and bang on 9st smile

Prob couldve been a little more had I been super strict Miss Strict, however I had a glass of red yesterday (I didnt open a new bottle - was a glass left over from before) whilst waiting for my dinner (which I had a smidge of gravy with... I cant have a roast dinner without any gravy at all so Im not even going there grin ). I drank it in front of the fire and it was bliss.

Today I didnt want breakfast but I'll have something shortly. Not sure about lunch yet either but dinner is leftover roast pork with mash and something (I'll have celeriac with mine.)

Have a good day everyone, and well done on all the losses! Keep going!

OTT well done on resisting - and you're right about the emotional want. most of us who've given in at some point have found that actually it's nowhere near as good as we remember!

NoveltySlippers Mon 14-Jan-13 10:06:20

OTTMummA - wow, that's impressive!!

carbalanche Mon 14-Jan-13 10:07:42

1st week and 8 pounds off - gone from 13st 9 to 13st 1, that's down from 191 to 183 pounds.

Pleased smile

My only minor cheat was 3 small pieces of salmon maki at a sushi bar which contained about 6 teaspoons of sushi rice.

MsRinky Mon 14-Jan-13 10:12:27

4.1lbs off for me, so lighter now than I was before my rather extended and carb heavy Christmas period. Very happy with that.

Although obviously there was no official weigh-in before 7th Jan, I did weigh myself on 1st January, and was horrified to see that 11 days of feasting and drinking had resulted in a gain of 12lbs. I tell you this as an example of a) how much it is possible to gain back quickly if you go off plan, and b) that if you do go off plan, get back on it and you should hopefully be able to lose the gain (nearly) as quickly as it went on.

It's my 40th birthday this week, and I do have a planned cheat on the cards for that evening. However, in every year previous to this one, I have used my birthday as an excuse to not even start the diet until after it's been and gone, oh, and then it's Mr Rinky's birthday, oh, and then our wedding anniversary at the beginning of March, and oh, it's practically Easter, etc, etc.

BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 10:13:49

I don't know who was asking, but I've posted a recipe for beef casserole on the recipe thread

I've also posted a lovely recipe for mushroom pate, which is really low carb.

prettybird Mon 14-Jan-13 10:23:55

Despite having somehow put on a pound between yesterday and today, I'm being honest and putting down my weight today - which is still a 7lb loss! smile Woo hoo - 3.8% down, to 12st 9lb.

Have noticed I'm not snacking as much on allowed foods of course - I think that's a combination of the diet working and also just generally getting my act together better and doing stuff rather than prowling the kitchen looking for food wink.

Have done Level 2 of Ripped in 30 today too!

HumphreyCobbler Mon 14-Jan-13 10:24:50

hello everyone

I am still at it, but I don't weigh so all I can report is that things are going well and I have definitely lost the weight I gained at Christmas. Hope everyone has a good week.

EwanHoozami Mon 14-Jan-13 10:29:31

DH away this week so am summoning the impetus to make tasty low-carb meals just for me. I find it quite hard. Off to Lidl for pork chops and the like.

B: Lidl yog
L: lots of egg whites to use after Hollandaise-fest so a buttery egg-white spinach omelette
D: A 'whatever is still looking decent in the fridge' salad.

BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 10:31:20

Wow! There are some spectacular losses - letsgocamping has lost a stone!!!

Can't understand why he/she isn't here shouting from the rooftops about it! grin

timidviper Mon 14-Jan-13 10:37:53

Well done everybody! smile

As BIWI says, the important thing at this stage is to keep going with it and make it your normal way of life. Remember this WOE does not produce linear weight loss, those of you who lost nothing this week may see it start next week or even the one after. If you have lost a lot this week, don't expect it to continue at a huge rate or you will just demoralise yourself when it slows. That is a diet way of thinking, not a healthy long term view which is what we are trying to build here.

I weigh on Friday and had lost 5lb but had a disastrous weekend so may be back to square 1. Never mind, onwards and downwards!

Biscuit357 Mon 14-Jan-13 10:39:26

Morgan

Am down 3lb which I'm OK with. Weight less yesterday morning but decided to be strict with myself and only put down todays weight rather than the lowest.

(It's exhausting playing these psychological war games with myself!)

Went to a Christening with buffet yesterday which was slightly dreading but they also had a Hog Roast.....bonus! I could eat allllllllll the crackling (which also made me drink a shed load of water as it was so salty)

Have ordered the Shred DVD off amazon which should arrive tomorrow - quick (stupid?) question. Are you supposed to do it for 30 days in a row?

Oh, also made the braised cabbage thing last night and was amazing (even though I burnt it a bit, but I quite like burnt food!).

envy Of all you ladies with big losses sad

MrsHoolie Mon 14-Jan-13 10:42:11

4lb off for me.

I can't wait to have full fat yog with berries for breakfast instead of eggs. I will stick at Bootcamp for at least another week though.

DangerousMouse Mon 14-Jan-13 10:47:49

8lb down for me, really pleased with that, well done every one.

I've been so hungry this morning. I've already had an atkins shake for breakfast, then some asparagus in butter and a babybel. I think I feel better now!

BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 10:52:02

An Atkins shake? hmm

Have a look at the ingredients in that. Remember we're trying to avoid artificial foods and ingredients. Also remember that artificial sweeteners can have an impact on your weight loss. You've had a great loss so far, but this kind of product can stall you. Don't be fooled by the Atkins branding!

thonah Mon 14-Jan-13 10:53:42

3lb loss this week, which I'm pretty pleased with as it took me a few days to get properly into it. Into it now though so I'll have to continue that thi week. Day off today so I'm just planning menus and shopping list for the week.

Fadqueen Mon 14-Jan-13 10:54:51

Fantastic losses - absolutely brilliant and well done!

I'm only slightly disappointed that I lost 2 lbs, the cold had turned into the croaky/coughing like a demon phase and I had to get some relief in the form of Strepsilsand a bit of honey,hot water and brandy lemon.

Planning some meals and keeping focused!

DangerousMouse Mon 14-Jan-13 10:58:47

I know the shakes aren't great, but I'm really struggling with what to eat.

I tend to have a 3 egg omelette for lunch with a little cheese, courgette and spinach, then for dinner, roast/buttered veg. I honestly don't know what I could have for breakfast, I don't really want to have eggs for breakfast and lunch. I'm a really fussy vegetarian!

Thanks mumat! Have just been offered free prosecco and turne it down, you best all be proud of me smile

frenchfries22 Mon 14-Jan-13 11:11:11

Morning have stayed the same weight this week after loosing 6lbs the first four days before weighing in. Feeling ok and motivated that i am changing for good and feeling much better, am sure the weight will slowly come off, it has to i have drastically changed my diet - it will wont it? confused

slatternlymother Mon 14-Jan-13 11:11:48

Good God littlemiss you are a champion of champions. I'd have ripped their hand off and swigged straight from the bottle grin

Amazing losses from everyone; well done. It's so inspiring to read about everyone's journey. People posting the bad stuff is actually helping, because I'm learning from it and trying to recognise in myself when it's going a bit tits up and not to 'reward' myself with sugar.

I'm 1 week in and 10lbs down. Would someone be so good as to add me? I'm at work and it's blocking me angry

Feeling better now I'm at work, the bosses have actually been really nice, and when I got called into a meeting I actually turned down the posh biscuits they offered me <proud> and just sipped on my water that I took in with me <even fucking prouder> They can keep their biscuits, the sugary, job wrecking twats.

frenchfries22 Mon 14-Jan-13 11:14:01

dangerousMouse i am also an incredibly fussy vegetarian. Sticky at omlette for breakfast, cheese salad for lunch and butter veg with cauliflower rice for dinner. Its either loads of eggs or loads of cheese so i am trying to opt for the eggs!

KerryKetosis Mon 14-Jan-13 11:16:27

WOWZERS! Some brilliant losses y'all! Well done!

My modest 4lbs has been added to spreadsheet.

<heads back to bastard essay>

TheEarlyBird Mon 14-Jan-13 11:19:18

Hi BigStick - I tried to add my weight loss, which is 4lbs not 5, to the spreadsheet but stuffed up somehow confused. Please can you sort me out (and change my name to The Early Bird as there is already an Early Bird!). Thanks

prettybird Mon 14-Jan-13 11:24:08

Biscuit357 - can't remember re the Shred but in "Ripped in 30" Jillian Daniels tells you that you must have one or two days off a week. I'd skip one day a week on the Shred - but make sure you go for a good walk or something like that on the day "off".

Lavendersbluedillydilly1969 Mon 14-Jan-13 11:29:45

Am down a couple of pounds so that's great although seem to have gained 1.75lbs since yesterday. Dinner yesterday was a huge plate of cauliflower, broccoli and mushrooms in a cheese sauce, it's one of my favourites but I always seem to gain the next day for some reason.

Don't know what's happened to my entry on the spreadsheet though. I seem to have lost my entire body weight since last September and it won't let me amend it, I know that have lost 18 pounds since last September and am really happy with that. I seem to go up and down on a daily basis but overall consistently lose eventually. Am only wanting to lose another half stone or so and it is definitely not going to happen quickly but I will get there in the end.

3 scrambled eggs and mushrooms for breakfast today. Already had a chunk of Brie and several cups of tea with cream, not hard to guess why my weight loss is slow, Water is good though, manage a couple of litres a day on average.

I just found a recipe on this link for celeriac chips... Is this the way u ladies do it??

http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/1145/celeriac-oven-chips

mawbroon Mon 14-Jan-13 11:45:01

marking place

QuickLookBusy Mon 14-Jan-13 11:58:00

PrincessSparkles, is this the recipe?

www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/1145/celeriac-oven-chips

Have been using quite a bit of celeriac this week and the whole family loves it.

Yesterday I made Celeriac Boulangere with roast chicken, cheesy leeks and broccoli. We used the liquid from the Boulangere as a gravy, it was delicious.

Next time I think I'll try a bit of cream mixed in, just before I serve it.

Some lovely losses grin

I'm 7lbs down since starting on 2 January. I had a 5 day head start but I can't remember what I weighed on official start day on the 7th so I'm not sure how much of this loss is last week or the week before. Anyway, I'm pleased!

Hope everyone has a good week ahead xx

Doshusallie Mon 14-Jan-13 12:04:32

marking place

SavoirFaire Mon 14-Jan-13 12:06:12

At work shouldn't be here so just coming on super quick to go on s/sht and post by weight. Also to explain that due to my ineptitude I am going to have to change my starting weight as I realised I converted stones and pounds to just pounds incorrectly blush. Am not cheating I promise!

Anyway, that's a longwinded way of saying that I am 5.5lbs down on the week! Woo hoo. 2.5lbs to go to reach my pre-baby weight, although to be honest I need to lose another half stone beyond that to get to true fighting weight but I haven't been that light since uni so I am not holding my breath!

Will come back and read through/post properly this evening. Well done everyone (am assuming that there are lots of great losses!).

Quick- yes it is smile

slatternlymother Mon 14-Jan-13 12:18:45

Cor! Some bloody lovely dinners going on!

Savoir That's amazing, only 2.5lbs to go until your pre baby weight envy Also, I come on here in work time, and when I post, I try to frown at the same time, as if in intense concentration. If anyone asks what I'm doing, I say "Sorry, but I absolutely must get this email typed out and sent to the boss. It is of the utmost importance".
Try to use the phrase 'utmost importance' a lot. And look faintly concerned at all times.

<looks about shiftily and pretends to work>

Slatternly- haha loving you secretly typing on the thread wink

I relaise I put the wrong weight in last week (incorrect conversion from kg to lb), so initially when I put in today's weight it looked like I had gained!! But when I recalculated correctly it turns out I have lost 1.1lb. Not as much as I would have hoped but going in the right direction.

AuntieMaggie Mon 14-Jan-13 12:36:56

Are the celeriac chips good with a fried egg?

celeriac chips would be excellent with fried egg i reckon

princess, i don't bother to par boil at all, just straight into the roasting pan with olive oil. they really are delicious, slightly different texture to potato chips, a bit chewier, but really lovely

Can I join? Did a low-carbing thread with BIWI about two years ago and lost about 3 stone (was only on the thread for the last stone though - was the one with SuperSal and Custy).

Cannot keep up with these threads at all, they move so quickly - have been doing since last Monday but haven't got around to posting as I've been trying to read it all (except fell off alcohol wagon at weekend - foodie Mother staying for birthday treat and big family supper - a planned fall, but went waaay too far and had the most hideous hangover yesterday - god low-carbing hangovers are spectacularly awful - a good reminder why not to do it!

Have lost about three and a half pounds despite the weekend.

Have about ten pounds to lose - never quite got to goal weight last time and then went to America driving coast to coast and put on half a stone in three weeks because the food was so rubbish.

Took up running last year and did two 10Ks and a half-marathon assuming that would do it but didn't lost a single pound as I was so hungry all the time, and it's impossible to run longer distances without eating some carbs (don't worry though Piste - 10K is fine)(in fact, I seem to remember it was running that stopped BIWI low-carbing on our last thread).

So, I'm going back to low-carbing and light exercise - that works much better for me.

BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 13:12:12

Welcome, Choos! All manner of things stopped me low carbing in those days - what's kept me focused this time was not only the amount of weight that I piled on, but the reading that I have been doing about it. Understanding that carbs are so deleterious to our health, as well as weight, really helped me to commit properly to it. Hence the two stone loss so far!

captainmummy Mon 14-Jan-13 13:13:57

Celeriac chips - I must be doing something wrong. I;ve tried roasting, i;ve tried frying- they always come out soggy. Taste ok tho.

Ilisten2theradio Mon 14-Jan-13 13:14:07

Just checking in. I have put my weight on the spreadsheet and it says I have lost all my body wieght since last week. I didn't want to fiddle with the formulas so would someone please do it for me. Thanks
So I have lost 5Lb which is great. I feel a lot less bloated than I did this time last week.

Off to peruse the fridge for lunch now.

Hi everyone,when I went to enter my weight this morning realised I'd also cocked up last weeks blush Anyhoo, had a great week, have gone from 9 stone 13 to 9 stone 8, losing half of my Xmas gain in a week!

Could maybe have been a bit more but have been on boot camp ultra light since Friday as I got my BFP! (and know generally ketosis is not recommended in pregnancy)
Can I still lurk about, even if I do scran the odd chickpea here or there?

BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 13:20:18

Congratulations! thanks

Of course you can hang around here! Love a bit of baby talk.

BandersnatchCummerbund Mon 14-Jan-13 13:24:42

Ach. First unplanned deviation this morning, in the shape of a biscuit and latte in the middle of a super-stressful morning.

I suppose I'm quite happy that I'm not scarfing down more biscuits now (have escaped for lunch break - Greek salad). Need to stay strong during afternoon break, though - it's not going to be any less tiring. hmm

Ha ha, thanks Slatternly. Am at a press thingy for a client and there's loads of fizz floating about. I have sneaked off for a salad and some more water. The way I see it, it's just a week, and will be more than making up for it as have one 30th, one 40th and two weddings to attend in February! Actually, BIWI, any top tips to keep me on track for a month of occasions??

halfthesize Mon 14-Jan-13 13:36:44

Congratulationd thanks Clare

I cant update spreadsheet today as scales not working, DH out and will grab some batteries so will update tomorrowwink

Some amazing losses here, well done everyone.

slatternlymother I have updated the spreadsheet for yousmile

Two stone! That's fantastic BIWI! Well done thanks and more thanks for starting up the thread!

halfthesize Mon 14-Jan-13 13:52:17

Ilisten it looks like you are down twice on the spreadsheet, one has been updated and is fine the other I would leave for Willie to remove.

Wilding Mon 14-Jan-13 13:54:09

thanks so much for the snack tips, Biwi- had forgotten olives and it's good to know that macadamia nuts are allowed!

going to write up a meal plan for this week now smile

Vagndidit Mon 14-Jan-13 14:00:38

Back again and survived a weekend of temptation. Not weighing at home (will do in a month at dr surgery) but snugly fitting clothes from Christmas are definitely looser. Loving the controlled appetite effects. Will power doesn't seem like a gutting sacrifice when im enjoying fried eggs in butter.grin

Marking place!

3lb off since Thursday! I'll weigh in on a Monday from now on, i started last Tue and didn't weigh until Thu. so I reckon I've lost a bit more than 3 since starting! I'm going to try and ditch caffeine this week and minimal dairy. Can't give up the Greek yogurt!

RatherBeOnThePiste Mon 14-Jan-13 14:03:37

BIWI is looking mighty fine too smile

Oh tis now raining. Frrrizzzzzzin and mis and someone on my Facebook is having alphabetti spaghetti on toast for lunch with their 4 year old.

And

I

want

it

TOO!!!!!

BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 14:05:32

No you don't, Pistey. <stern face>

coldethyl Mon 14-Jan-13 14:05:38

So, olives as a snack... is it wrong to eat them from the jar, with a spoon? grin

GinotPrigio Mon 14-Jan-13 14:06:38

AuntieMaggie I had celeriac chips, ham and eggs for dinner last week. It was incredible!

GinotPrigio Mon 14-Jan-13 14:09:13

Clare8allthepies Congratulations, that's fantastic news!

Iamaslummymummy Mon 14-Jan-13 14:24:17

Checking in. Day 14 for me.

Breakfast blue cheese, pepperEd ham and a couple of cherry tomatoes.
Lunch left over Brussels sprouts with chorizo and Swede fried up together in butter with a fried egg
Dinner jerk chicken, coleslaw and celeriac chips

Great losses on here!

Ruprekt Mon 14-Jan-13 15:06:13

8lb off for me!!!

Am so happy.

Especially as I ate scrambled egg with butter and double cream for breakfast with 2 sausages!

AuntieMaggie Mon 14-Jan-13 15:10:39

Yay egg and chips is my fave meal grin

thenightsky Mon 14-Jan-13 15:22:56

11 pounds melted away since I started!!!! I dare not add to spreadsheet for fear of buggering it up. Can someone do it for me please? smile

halfthesize Mon 14-Jan-13 15:30:21

thenightsky I have updated spreadsheet for you, though you appear to be on it twiceconfused

thenightsky Mon 14-Jan-13 16:09:25

I'm probably on it twice due to my feeble attempt to add myself at the beginning - hence my reluctance to mess with it again blush

halfthesize Mon 14-Jan-13 16:11:07

dont worry sure Willie will sort it. your not the only double entry, but like u I don't want to mess with it incase I do more damageconfused

Hi well done everyone - will catch up properly later but skim reading there are some great losses

Eveeeening!

Im very much looking forward to eatin all the goodies weve just bought... And ive bought a celeriac! Think ill make some chips tomorrow grin and ive got pork belly and plenty of chicken toos! And i read on the thread before about frozen spinach soooo ive got some of that too!

Dinner tonight will be a chicken stir fry... With chilli garlic and some ginger and a bit of soy sauce!

ANDa litre of water so far... I shall get my second in after dinner! Ive got to go visit my grandad and dont want to be in the bathroom the whole time hahas!

Doshusallie Mon 14-Jan-13 16:26:56

Congrats cathyandclaire to BFP!!!!

Greek yog for brekkie, egg, olive and tuna salad for lunch, pkt of m&s pork crackling for snack, bought at Waterloo, they were very nice!!! No idea what's for tea......

And word of the thread so far award goes to....[drum roll] = BIWI for deleterious......[wild applause] grin

BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 16:28:23

Why thank you. I'd like to thank my mother, and my father, and my husband, and my English teacher ... grin

Doshusallie Mon 14-Jan-13 16:29:00

I told my DS that the celeriac I'd bought was actually a brain. Do 't you think they look like brains? Ok just me then...

Doshusallie Mon 14-Jan-13 16:30:16

Brain chips, fondant du brain, mashed brains...

Im having celeriac chips tonight too grin Im gonna dip them in mayo!

Was wondering what to have with them, a fried egg sounds just the thing.

Dosh I was just thinking they do look a bit brainish. Cant think about it too much or it'll be my first and last grin

cathyandclaire Mon 14-Jan-13 16:34:35

Dosh you nearly scared me to death with the BFP congrats!! I must remember to pull in my tummy muscles--and stop having wine and choc at the weekends--! My BFP days are hopefully behind me grin
Think it's Clare8allthepies who's had good news...well done!!!

MrsHoolie Mon 14-Jan-13 16:50:18

I love celeriac chips....and the butternut squash soup from IPD is divine.

Will be trying the braised cabbage this week too.

BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 16:54:12
Valdeeves Mon 14-Jan-13 16:54:25

Guys what's the best yoghurt to have? What brand? Can't believe some of the losses - amazing! I'm going up see if I can get my scales to work now.
Really struggling to drink the water.

vnmum Mon 14-Jan-13 16:54:40

Congratulation clare8

Stay the same for me. If i remember rightly this happened when i first started low carbing so not too bothered. My body shape has changed though, my waist has appeared again.

I need to make more of an effort to drink enough water though.
Went to the gym this morning for the first time in about 2 months so am going to be stiff tomorrow.

Well done to everyone who has had good losses this week, and to the rest, just keep on keeping on, you will get a whoosh soon.

BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 16:56:31

Valdeeves - the brand I buy/love is Total - but make sure you buy the full fat one - the 2% fat one is very similar colours, and it's caught me out before! Other people rave about Lidl's yoghurt, but we don't have a Lidl enough, so I haven't tried that one.

BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 16:56:56

we don't have a Lidl near enough

Valdeeves Mon 14-Jan-13 17:05:59

Ha ha BIWI - it is really strange, I've just found the remainder of mine in the living room - had some little ones round and they must have found it interesting as its with the rest of the toys!

Valdeeves Mon 14-Jan-13 17:06:43

Vnmum - thinking the same about the water.

Valdeeves Mon 14-Jan-13 17:09:35

Thanks for the yoghurt tip BIWI.
What I've found a bit disappointing this week is I feel like I've lost a bit but no ones noticed so I know it's not a mega change.
I think I need to combine with exercise - got to book the crèche in the local gym - no time in the evenings for me as our baby is still young (and she's a premmie) so can take a while to go down after her brother.

Doshusallie Mon 14-Jan-13 17:18:16

Sorry cathy!!! Congrats Claire!!!

Amusing that my iPhone autocorrects cathy to carby.... grin

EwanHoozami Mon 14-Jan-13 17:24:46

clare flowers congratulations!

Haven't read all the posts, am just huffing in to moan about not checking a label before buying <schoolgirl error>

Bloody Lidl white wine vinegar is 18.3g/100g. I thought it tasted sweet. Bah. I thought all White Wine Vinegar was OK - must be white balsamic in disguise [anger]

I am disproportionally cross about this grin

EwanHoozami Mon 14-Jan-13 17:25:31

or even angry

I can't even get an emoticon right

<huffs off>

Lifeisontheup Mon 14-Jan-13 17:32:41

Not going to weigh in until tomorrow or possibly Wednesday as I'm on nights so my nights sleep is about 4 hours and I want to keep the weighing at a consistent time if that makes sense. Will weigh when I've had 10 hours without eating.

Bessie123 Mon 14-Jan-13 17:35:27

Hello all and congrats on the losses. Like lucy I lost nothing for ages but was 3lb down this morning, yay. I promise to try to stop sulking about weight loss now. grin

Lavenderhoney Mon 14-Jan-13 17:36:49

I've just filled in the spreadsheet and realised in my excitement i had wrongly calculated my original weight, which was more than i thought blush

i have lost just over 9llbs! i dont think i look different, and my jeans are still tough to do up and i splodge somewhat over the top (these are my fat jeans and I am not buying any more. I bought them specially in Nov as I couldnt do up my normal jeans and had no clothes to wear) but I think its an overall loss from everywhere. My face is slimmer for sure.

Thank you BIWI for the stick and Willie for the spreadsheet and all you lovely ladies keeping this thread active and supportive. plus all these new things to eat!

This week I am keeping to the bootcamp rules and going to shred everyday plus pilates..

NellVarnish Mon 14-Jan-13 17:38:36

Well done everyone! And thanks to BIWI and Willie for their sterling work! flowers

I've lost 9lbs since 7th Jan so I'm extremely happy with that - clothes feel looser already round my waist, norks still enormous, but hey ho!

Unfortunately I had a bit of Reeces Pieces Cake (I know! Yum) at lunch today as I didn't want to offend and I really, really wanted it, but I don't want anymore. Was happy with that but will not be having anything else of that ilk this week!

Ilisten2theradio Mon 14-Jan-13 18:04:39

I have a real craving for a packet of crisps. What can I eat that is crunchy that might do the trick. I hate celary and other crudities, and I don't like celariac so not the crisps made of those.
Doe anyone have any suggestions?

Yama Mon 14-Jan-13 18:05:48

It was a 2.5lb loss for me. Happy with that.

Today's food:

B - Leftover chicken stuffed with Tahini and wrapped in pancetta.
S - Greek yoghurt
L - Salad with chicken leg.
S - Cucumber with pate
D - Bolognaise with cabbage n' bacon

BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 18:08:48

Is it the crunch, or is it the salt?

You could have pork scratchings. Personally I hate the commercial ones, although they have been known to hit the spot when desperate! I have a lovely piece of pork that I'm going to roast tomorrow, so I can make the lovely crackling.

BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 18:09:18

Teaspoon of crunchy peanut butter? Could wrap it in an iceberg lettuce leaf for extra 'bite'?

TaffyandTeenyTaffy Mon 14-Jan-13 18:12:44

Sorry if this is a really dumb question but does celariac taste anything like celery? I cant stand celery - tis the devils food - and I always associate celariac with it...... but the celariac chips sound good!

Ive had lettuce wraps with egg mayo for breakfast, salad with avacado, egg and blue cheese for lunch and about to have salmon, green beans and garlic mushroom for tea. Followed by my outstanding 2.5l of water ...... hmm

EwanHoozami Mon 14-Jan-13 18:13:03

Ilisten radishes for crunch sometimes does the trick for me, but I see you're not a crudite fan... Maybe roast a packet of kale with some sea salt and groundnut oil? tastes like Chinese takeaway seaweed. Mmmm.

Ilisten2theradio Mon 14-Jan-13 18:15:48

Both the crunch and the salt I think. I am desparate for the crunch mainly at the moment and considering that an apple might be better than a packet of crisps, but still not quite hitting the spot. I think it must be the combination I am seeking. Am home for the evening now though so no chance of getting any pork scratchings tonight.
Also thinking about roasted seeds with a splash of soy sauce. So which is worse if I can't talk myself out of something?

Ilisten2theradio Mon 14-Jan-13 18:16:52

I have a savoy cabbage - but "seaweed" usually has sugar on it. What would it be like without do you reckon?

Ilisten2theradio Mon 14-Jan-13 18:18:01

No crunchy peanut butter in the house. DS allergic!

For crunch, try putting some greaseproof paper on a baking sheet, then adding little piles of grated cheese. Bake at Gas Mk 6 ish until they melt and go golden. Wait until they cool, and they'll be cheese crisps smile

You can do the same in a microwave, but no idea re timings - just keep an eye on it.

BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 18:19:27

Please don't go for the apple!

Seeds or salted nuts would be better, although they aren't really allowed on Bootcamp.

Ilisten2theradio Mon 14-Jan-13 18:19:38

Ooh. I like the sound of the cheese. I might try that.

Ilisten2theradio Mon 14-Jan-13 18:22:08

No nuts allowed in the house either. Bloody allergies!

prettybird Mon 14-Jan-13 18:24:57

I've just had to make my first aberration from Boot Camp: I had to have a very small teaspoon full bit of the carrot cake that ds (age 12) made at school. He did say he'd not put in enough sugar as he hadn't manage to zero the scales.

I couldn't not have it! grin

Carrotcakeisace Mon 14-Jan-13 18:27:06

8lbs down for me so I'm really pleased still a heifer though plan for this week is to keep up the good work and water drinking

I've just made the yummiest celeriac soup so I'm really looking forward to lunch tomorrow, got to watch dd1 though because she's already swiped a bowl of it! In other news, I bought some of the Boots own brand Beroca and they've had a somewhat interesting effect on the colour of my wee, I almost died of shock when I went yesterday grin

ILoveOnionRings Mon 14-Jan-13 18:31:40

Well done for the weight losses and getting through week one everyone

I've entered onto the spreadsheet and have managed to lose 6lbs - really pleased and quite spured on for this week.

Havn't made many comments but read the thread everyday and the food ideas are what make this possible. Everyones daily menus do inspire to have something different

Thanks everyone - the support here is amazing. thanks

I'm not keen on celery at all, but I'm really enjoying the celeriac! The chips were so awesome! I was eating them when dh came home, I ran to him carrying my bowl of yum shouting "look! Look! CHIPS!" *really must get out more.

Sushi nori is low carb isn't it?? My friend in Japan sends me loads because she knows I love it so I'm wondering whether its time to ask her nicely for some more....

In any case here's something I do quite often (though haven't since we started bootcamp so do tell me if we can't have the oil or whatever, and don't take my word that its low carb!!) Get a pack of the sushi nori sheets. Pre heat oven. Drizzle a teeny bit of sesame oil on a sheet and use the back of a teaspoon to spread it around. Sprinkle with a bit of salt and put directly on a shelf in the oven. I can't remember how long these take to 'roast' but its certainly less than 3 mins, the sheets will change colour but you don't want them black. The timing can be an arse so watch it.

Anyway when you've done as many sheets as you want, u can then chop them up - if I want something like crisps then I cut each sheet into about 8 pieces or so, if I want it with miso soup or something (salads etc) I cut it into shorter ribbons. This is my favourite thing to eat ever.

If it turns out that actually its horrendously bad to eat then I consider myself beaten with biwi's big stick and severely chastised!

happygolucky0 Mon 14-Jan-13 18:35:36

well done to everyone. I havn't managed to lose much, but feeling better for eating this way. I have more energy and feel alert. my skin is looking nice and clear too so I am sticking with it!!

Just realised - if sushi nori is low carb we can wrap allsorts in it! Yay!

God sorry me again - just found a pack in the cupboard! If I'm reading it correctly its 0.8g carbs per 100g. This is the 'Yutaka' type and I bought it in sainsburys

EwanHoozami Mon 14-Jan-13 18:44:06

Guy I haven't got the packet now to check but I found an old packet of nori in the cupboard and yaffled the lot in front of Die Hard 2 grin

[Grin] easily done Ewan, the stuff is bloody lovely. I'd roast some now but then the kids'll come down the stairs, noses sniffing the air and then I won't get a look in!

I'll enjoy it tomorrow when they're at school *evil laugh

ScillyCow Mon 14-Jan-13 18:52:32

GAWD I can't keep up!!!!

Hi all, thanks Biwi for the new thread! Another 1.3kg down this week (nearly 3 pounds) Am stoked!

Doshusallie Mon 14-Jan-13 19:05:43

Which reminds me, ordered some of those noodles BIWI was talking about off've amazon, which haven't showed....

ShebaQueen Mon 14-Jan-13 19:09:24

Evening all. I am 11lbs down, having started on 2nd January woop woop!

Well done to all who have lost and hugs to those who haven't - it will come off in time I'm sure.

Thanks to BIWI for all the effort in keeping us all on the straight and hopefully narrow smile

BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 19:18:30

Guy - that sushi nori sounds like a great idea! The only thing I've been able to find with a quick Google says to watch out as apparently some of them contain sugar. Although if your pack says 0.8g, then those must be fine/unsweetened.

Sheba - brilliant! thanks

Dinner was sooo good i added a tspn of smooth peanut butter to the atir fry with the rest (which i posted earlier) so glad theres leftovers for tomorrow grin

Hows everyobe doing with sleep? I seem to be so awake i cant sleep before 2am.. And then im tired (if that makes sense)!

*stir fry (considers drowning iphone in the bath)!

ShebaQueen Mon 14-Jan-13 19:27:21

Thanks BIWI, I've successfully lost weight this way before, but finding this thread has really helped.

slatternlymother Mon 14-Jan-13 19:31:15

Some amazing losses! How exciting to get off to such a great start!

Bit of a headache again tonight hmm drank loads of water, not craving anything. Might be a genuine pressure headache, the weather is being funny here atm.

I'm going to try and stop weighing every day too... Therein lies madness!

Is this what you mean? It sounds delish if so and I'll be down the shops ASAP.

coldethyl Mon 14-Jan-13 19:44:31

Uugh. trying very hard not to fall off this WOE this evening. DS3 being a very trying two year old today, and DS1 has apparently lost the use of his limbs and couldn't possibly move from his chair to find his own games kit for tomorrow.

I could really do with wine and chocolate. Instead I am having a Bovril and that is winding me up even more. Except I have just taken a sip and I am most definitely NOT having a Bovril, it tastes like floor sweepings.

Bah. Off to be bad tempered somewhere else. Sorry sad

Yes MrsHP that's the stuff, just a different brand though so I can't tell you the carb count. Ooh its lovely. I'm having to fight the urge to go an make some now.....

NoelHeadbands Mon 14-Jan-13 19:52:33

Evening everyone and well done on all those brilliant losses. I've updated the spreadsheet- the scales were kinder to me yesterday but I've gone with today's figure anyway.

I've prepped all tomorrow's meals as I start work at six (ish) in the morning and I've a strong suspicion I may be donning the YakTrax and walking! It's getting very cold and icy and we live up a massive hill- I don't fancy trying to get my car out and DH will need the Landy to drop the kids off. So I've fried sausages and hard boiled some eggs. I've made 'letwiches' for my lunch and there's a beef stew for the slow cooker.

Tea tonight was sirloins and creamed leeks and cabbage.

BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 19:52:47

Don't go, coldethyl! You'll only slope off and do something you shouldn't. Rant at us!

BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 20:01:55
barleywood Mon 14-Jan-13 20:10:25

Talk to me about fat.....I'm wobbling confused It goes against everything I used to think.

I've lost a lot of weight on this WOE but still...it's FAT

someone asked about the spreadsheet showing all bodyweight lost since they first started low carbing (applies to those who have done a bootcamp before who have data in the grey cells) - this is because on a weekly basis i have to alter the formula so that it looks at the most recent weigh-in. i do this manually on a monday, so until you weigh in for the week it will be subtracting zero, making it look as though you have lost your original starting weight

hope this helps

Ilovemyteddy Mon 14-Jan-13 20:31:14

Evening all.

Well done to all the losers. There are some amazing loses on here.

BIWI that article is definitely food for thought. As I have said on these threads my cholesterol has been fine throughout this WOE despite my fat and egg consumption (or maybe because of it, if Zoe H is right). But her article does make you wonder whether the scale that they use in measuring cholesterol is actually right. What makes my 4.5 cholesterol fine?

We have all been led up so many wrong paths by the huge corporate food producers and governments trying to make a quick buck. But, certainly in the UK, it's costing us a fortune treating people with health issues resulting from the obesity epidemic which the government have conspired in with their constant messages of low-fat/high-carb diets. Why can nobody see this? Why are doctors still peddling the low-fat myth? Every health programme on TV (Supersize Superskinny et al) are still singing the same old tune. Thank God for Michael Mosley!

I am very close to falling off the wagon this evening! angry I feel like I might cry if I don't have something sweet sad

thenightsky Mon 14-Jan-13 20:32:41

Interesting article re spreads. I think I need to send this to someone I know who is obsessed with eating all them low fat things and running screaming from cream and butter.

Yama Mon 14-Jan-13 20:34:04

Well, tonight is the first night I've had any cravings. I'm not hungry and don't fancy anything in particular but could just go a wee something.

Actually, what I could really go is a nice tasty glass of red wine. I think I'm stressed - busy at work and moving house next week.

Yama Mon 14-Jan-13 20:35:24

Cross post with you there Bullet. I'm gonna have some Greek yoghurt.

I think I may join you. I'll have to resist putting honey in it though! smile

NoelHeadbands Mon 14-Jan-13 20:43:04

Could you whip up some cream? Dull I know, but I've done it at times of extreme desperation and it feels a bit like 'pudding'

sybilfaulty Mon 14-Jan-13 20:43:05

Just adding myself to the thread. Back later for a proper catch up.

Ilovemyteddy Mon 14-Jan-13 20:47:00

Sugar is the real enemy, not fat. Google Robert Lustig. BIWI posted a link to his video about obesity and he firmly believes, and has scientific evidence to back up his beliefs that sugar is evil and the cause of the obesity epidemic. He had a book out called Fat Chance. But it's all about sugar, not fat.

Eating natural fat makes you lose fat. It's a fact borne out by those of us who are low-carbing, whether we have been doing it for a week, or a year, like me. I am one of those fortunate people who's weight-loss has not been stalled by eating copious amounts of cheese. I don't drink though grin

I bought a size 10 top today. Yay! It's a year today since I started this WOE. I'm a shade over 5 stones lighter than I was a year ago. I have done this by eating butter, cheese, eggs, mayo and some fatty meat ( although I have to confess to not liking the fat on meat.). I have done this by not eating anything sugary (apart from dark chocolate!). I've eaten industrial quantities of nuts. But no sugar.

I haven't done a lot of exercise although I have a very physical job which involves a lot of walking, stairs, bending, stretching, lifting and carrying.

Fat is good. Sugar is bad. It's as simple as that really.

Oi you lot, you've got the Monday night blues. DO NOT GIVE IN TO THEM

Keep drinking the water, have something low carb, brush your teeth, have a peppermint tea or go to bed! You can do it, you'll feel better for it tomorrow. You do not need anything sweet, your body is tricking to trick you!

Yama Mon 14-Jan-13 20:48:27

Well, I am now snuggled up in my slanket and awaiting Lewis. The yoghurt did the trick. smile

Yama Mon 14-Jan-13 20:52:01

Oh, and thanks for the pep talk ILove and MrsHP. It really does help and is appreciated.

Yogurt didn't do it for me sad
Will a cuppa with a sweetener in it ruin everything?

HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey Mon 14-Jan-13 20:56:13

<whispers>

bullet i still have two cups of tea a day with two sweetners in each.

Didn't mess things up last week, lost 3lb.

mawbroon Mon 14-Jan-13 20:56:23

Can somebody give me an idiots guide to the celeriac chips? I tried deep frying some and they were minging and soggy sad

You need to break those sugar cravings
It's mind over matter -DON'T DO IT

Have a cuppa without sugar, or a peppermint tea instead

HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey Mon 14-Jan-13 20:58:18

Oh and bullet if it's sweet you need Hartleys no sugar added Strawberry Jelly in 0.4g of carbs, just sayin grin

<awaits telling off from BIWI>

barleywood Mon 14-Jan-13 20:59:12

Thanks for the encouragement re fat. Been eating like this for six months and lost around 20lbs.

Tonight feeling a little queasy....perhaps I have overdone the butter and cream.

Not really missing the sugar too much and definitely not as hungry.

shock Hokey

If you understand the science behing low carbing and why sweeteners can stall you, it may help

Whip up some cream
And have a dusting of cocoa powder. Far better for you

Ilovemyteddy Mon 14-Jan-13 21:02:03

Sweeteners won't necessarily stall you but we are trying to break habits here so do try and resist as hard as you can. People keep telling me that I must have a lot of willpower to have lost so much weight. But because LC-ing keeps you full it's easy to stick to. The willpower comes in resisting the craving for sugar.

You can do it!

Ilovemyteddy Mon 14-Jan-13 21:03:02

20lbs is brilliant! thanks

Right. I am going to have a green tea. Thank you for the encouragement, I do want to kick my sugar habit so I'm going to find a bit more willpower!

HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey Mon 14-Jan-13 21:05:48

Sorry Gless

I have an exceptionally sweet tooth, i always have. I am also a massive carb eater.

This woe is so hard for me, but i see the benefit in my body and how i feel in myself and my weight so i do it and i don't cheat in any other way.

Every so often i just need something sweet and so i have a little pot of Jelly.

I'm so ashamed grin

Oh yes, I'm definitely not hungry,just craving something hot and sweet! Loving the food and not snacking too much, I think it's just the snow that's making me fancy hot, sweet, builders TEA!

Jelly?
Jelly?

God BIWI'll bd getting the stick out!!

I would recommend reading as to why this WOE works
It has been a real lightbulb moment for me.
It explained my blood sugar dips, constantly grazing especially on fruit.
No more- I'm free!!

NellVarnish Mon 14-Jan-13 21:09:42

I was desperate for some sort of pudding last night bullet and I resorted to a spoodful of crunchy peanut butter stirred into some Greek yoghurt if you fancy that? Was v. nice.

Despite losing I feel a bit meh tonight - maybe I've got the Monday night blues too ...

jan2013 Mon 14-Jan-13 21:12:08

i used to drink hot choc every night before bed. you would think with so many people low carbing now they would come up with low carb versions of stuff like that so we have more options when we have a craving for something sweet. now its just a coffee and cream

I am trying not to have caffeine this week as well, just to see if it has any impact on my weight loss. If it does I will definitely have to invest in some decaf tea and coffee!
That sounds a bit wrong tbh Nell! I think the craving has passed now, talking about it helped!

HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey Mon 14-Jan-13 21:22:17

I know, she'll be along soon and she'll have the caps lock on!!

Might be time for bed wink

NellVarnish Mon 14-Jan-13 21:33:40

Yes they should jan - that was the second time this week I've wanted something sweet, although with the amount of chocolate I normally put away, I'm surprised it wasn't more!

No it was lovely bullet, but no Green & Blacks or Galaxy that's for sure. grin

Doshusallie Mon 14-Jan-13 21:33:49

Tea was two salmon fillets roasted in the oven in foil with salt and pepper and butter, served with leeks and sprouts that I partly cooked in the microwave and then finished off by frying in butter and cream. Utterly divine.

prettybird Mon 14-Jan-13 21:48:05

Interestingly, when dh tried ds' carrot cake, he found it a bit tart, even acidic (probably due to ds not putting in enough sugar), yet I had found it very sweet hmm

Maybe the fact that I haven't had even a sniff of sugar for nearly 8 days meant that I was extra sensitised! grin

BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 21:58:38

Do I need to wave my big stick around then?!

If you can get through these two weeks without giving into the sugar/sweet cravings then it will be much better for you - and it does get easier.

There are lots of sugar-free treats you can buy, including the jelly, but they are generally full of all manner of artificial ingredients WHICH WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE EATING!!! grin

HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey Mon 14-Jan-13 22:02:55

I knew you'd bring out the caps grin

Sorry!!

I promise to never mention jelly again!

prettybird Mon 14-Jan-13 22:03:06

Miss, miss, please miss......I didn't give in to a sugar craving, I placated my 12 year old ds who had made lovely carrot cake at school and who wanted me to try it. I only had a tiny teaspoon!

BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 22:08:16

You were lucky I didn't employ caps and bold ...

BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 22:08:55

<pins 'well done' badge on prettybird>

NoveltySlippers Mon 14-Jan-13 22:10:55

Hi all

As someone who buckled massively at the weekend and gave in to my insane sugar cravings, maybe I can, ahem, help.

Obviously, I've been sitting in the penance corner all day and been wondering how it is that I fell off the wagon so spectacularly. (For those who missed my post, the words caramel cheesecake; Cadbury's creme egg; Green and Blacks; Burger King; Doritos, and YES - in an almost devil may care way - KRISPY KREME all featured at some point in my weekend.

(Okay - I was very sad at the weekend too, but still....)

So I thought - today I have to read something to make me understand it. I remember BIWI posting about Robert Lustig, and I found this: Sugar - a sweet addiction

Apologies if you've seen it already. But it's really helped me today. It takes away so much power from those cravings. Hope it helps those struggling today.

BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 22:13:36

How are you feeling today, Novelty?

Firsttimepig Mon 14-Jan-13 22:14:00

Just back from a 45 min spinning class was hard work but felt good for going. I am hoping three of these a week will get those numbers up.
For all the jelly talk I am following ipd so neris and India do allow sf jelly and nuts in week 3 which I am in now. After the spinning jelly is a nice reward !

NoveltySlippers Mon 14-Jan-13 22:17:54

Much better today, thanks BIWI. thanks

Had a slightly difficult meeting at work, where someone's going on maternity leave and the boss remarked on 'what a fertile group we must be'. I may have almost shed a tear... But it was residual sadness from the weekend.

Am feeling stronger today, and much happier that I'm not stuffing my face. (Which is a million times better for the fertility I'm trying to preserve too!)

I think i need a pep talk.... Still stewing over the 1lb loss hmmits a pain!

Novelty- glad your feeling better today smile

AuntieMaggie Mon 14-Jan-13 22:25:49

OMG all this talk of forbidden food <faints>

I haven't got a particularly sweet tooth, but this woe really makes a lot of things too sweet for me especially unnatural sweetness. I usually have a teaspoon of sweetener in my one cup of tea per day and I've continued to have sweetener in my tea but over the past week it has reduced to the tiniest amount as anything more is far too sweet. (sorry BIWI)

I haven't been hungry all day but after zumba tonight I am starving!

NoveltySlippers Mon 14-Jan-13 22:28:20

Thanks Princess smile

JessicaWakefield Mon 14-Jan-13 22:29:22

Novelty it was just a minor aberration. And very well done for getting back on the wagon and for looking into why it happened. Robert Lustig is great isn't he? Thanks for the link and thanks for you after what sounds like a difficult weekend.

prettybird Mon 14-Jan-13 22:30:48

Finally worked out what ipd means blush and what's more I have the book and used it successfully a few years ago blush. I even adapted a recipe from the book last week! blush

JessicaWakefield Mon 14-Jan-13 22:30:57

Congratulations Clare8 brilliant news!

Teddy your pictures are just amazing! You're such an inspiration to us!

NoveltySlippers Mon 14-Jan-13 22:32:05

Thank you Jessica smile

NoveltySlippers Mon 14-Jan-13 22:34:28

Yes, congrats Clare8 too!

(Just had to read up thread....this thread is sooo fast)

EwanHoozami Mon 14-Jan-13 22:35:28

Prettybird it's interesting how your taste buds change isn't it. I thoughtlessly had a swig of regular whole milk (straight out of the carton, pure class) and it tasted incredibly sweet.

SavoirFaire Mon 14-Jan-13 22:36:09

mawbroon I used this for celeriac chips and it worked perfectly. I cut them quite chunky.

I posted quickly early about loss - 5.5 lbs. DH has also lost 5 or 6lbs (he isn't sure but is very happy as his jeans are no longer tight. Annoyingly, my jeans don't really feel any looser. Or may I have forgotten quite how tight they were.

Slatternly your post about posting at work made me laugh. Unfortunately my computer screen faces the entire office which is a bit of a bummer.

Today I have eaten:
B: 2 eggs, butter
L: ham, avocado, cucumber and goats cheese, and a babybel blush
S: cucumber and goats cheese
D: casserole and celeriac chips which was utterly utterly scrummy. Best meal yet by a mile. Will be doing again, lots!

I did give in to a craving this evening as was p'd off about having to do a bunch of work this evening. 3 or maybe 4 teaspoons of sugar free peanut butter. I am very sorry BIWI. It's better than 3 pieces of toast with peanut butter on, which is what I'd probably have had this time two weeks ago.

Great losses losers. The shared experience is making this all possible. Thanks!

SavoirFaire Mon 14-Jan-13 22:37:16

And congratulations clare8!!

Lavendersbluedillydilly1969 Mon 14-Jan-13 22:38:08

Just noticed that my spreadsheet entry has been amended, thank you very much. Am so happy when I see the figures written down as I know it's worth any little inconvenience.

Have been reading up on Michael Moseley and am quite interested in trying the 5:2 intermittent fasting thing. Just wondering if anyone else does this with low carbing and how it works if anyone has any advice to offer. I thought I could maybe have two cheese free days a week as I eat so much and if that would help.

BigStickBIWI Mon 14-Jan-13 22:38:54

I don't think that's too bad, Savoir! You could have done a lot worse than that.

OTTMummA Mon 14-Jan-13 22:51:16

Today I ate some chocolate, half a terry's chocolate orange.
I won't dwell on it, i know why i did it.

Starting fresh again tomorrow.

Dinner was steak, blue cheese sauce, cauliflour and brocolli, garlic mushrooms.

Ruprekt Mon 14-Jan-13 22:51:29

B - cup of tea and FF Greek yoghurt

S - 2 x eggs with butter and cream, scrambled. 2 sausages

L - Smoked salmon pate. Crunchy celery.

D - Waitrose Chicken with cream and ham. Roasted swede and celeriac. Creamed spinach.

Water and peppermint tea.

MrsHoolie Mon 14-Jan-13 22:58:38

B- eggs mayo and ham

L- avocado salad with halloumi cheese

D- bolognaise over courgette 'spaghetti'

I have got used to drinking at least 2l of water.
Oh and I did have a decaff coffee with some semi skimmed blush

For anyone wanting a comforting hot drink yogi tea choco is worth a try - it smells heavenly though does taste like dishwater like most herbal teas but has a faint sweetish aftertaste which I think comes from liquorice (not overpowering at all). I've bought it in sainsbury's and it's not cheap but I have some maybe once a week and it's a nice warming before bed sort of drink

I didn't discover this tea btw - another low carber did ages ago jut can't remember who it was sorry!

Valdeeves Tue 15-Jan-13 00:14:14

I weighed myself and it says I am 7 and a half stone. As I was ten and a half a week ago I think the scales are broken!! I think I've lost at least four pounds just by my tummy.
I really hope I lose more next week as I really want to she'd the frumpy body and buy clothes which are trendy rather than hide the lumps and bumps!

Valdeeves Tue 15-Jan-13 00:15:26

OTTMumma - I ate three chocolate oranges at Xmas within two days - they are hard to resist. See you back on the wagon tomorrow xxxx

halfthesize Tue 15-Jan-13 00:19:38

hi can't sleepangry novelty glad to hear you had a better day.
princess 1lb is fine it's all in the righ directionwink

ToomuchWaternotWine Tue 15-Jan-13 00:21:58

Well done everyone on your great losses, and into week 2 we go!

2 and a bit lbs off for me, so takes me back under the 11 stone mark at 153 (I'm 5'8"). I lost 20lbs on the last bootcamp, put on 5/6 over Xmas/ny so that's half of that gone in the first week back. I think my ideal weight is about 145-7 so half a stone or so to go.

weighin advice thought worth a reminder, as I had to remember this:

always weigh:
On the same scales, pref on a hard floor not carpet.
First thing in the morning
After pee/poo but before you eat or drink anything
Naked

This will give you the most accurate "true" weight

(If you are like me, this will also include removal of all possible body hair, cutting of nails and refusal to put on moisturiser or deodorant wink )

halfthesize Tue 15-Jan-13 00:28:43

wine I actually just spat my coffee out laughing at you cutting nails and removing hairgrin
well done on all the losseswink

NoveltySlippers Tue 15-Jan-13 00:36:26

Thanks half

I can't sleep either! smile

BlackAffronted Tue 15-Jan-13 06:59:27

Morning campers!

Was so tired after Zumba last night, I had a shower & went straight to bed! )to read my kindle I may add, I didnt go to sleep at 8pm lol). If i am knackered after 1 hour of Zumba, how am I going to be after 8 hours? shock

Menu yesterday was -

b - 3 fried eggs in coconut oil
l - chicken & broccoli bake
d - salmon, salad & mayo
s - ham slices, 1 square dark choc

NoelHeadbands Tue 15-Jan-13 06:59:53

Morning all

Already scoffed two sausages this morning with a portion of butter. I'm bloody freezing though, and would love a hot drink. I'm avoiding black coffee because I'm currently having my teeth whitened and I can't drink tea unless it's got milk and sugar. Wah!

NoelHeadbands Tue 15-Jan-13 07:04:30

I can easily go to sleep at 8pm, especially after exercise. Every 2-3 weeks I tend to have a really early night to catch up blush

8 hours of zumba and I'd probably need to book a couple if days off work!

Xenia Tue 15-Jan-13 07:27:52

Just following this. Well done to everyone.

skandi1 Tue 15-Jan-13 07:53:19

Marking place on new thread.
I will add my weight to spread sheet today once I get to the compute.

Not has much time to post as DS decided to get 4 shiny new molars over the weekend <shattered>

All going well so far. Only craving I have had is for choc. May owe more to sleep deprivation though.

I think my slower loss than the average is because I have still not made it to the gym.

Well done everyone. You are all doing amazingly well!!

Morning!

Well I went to bed around 8.30 last night, read for an hour then slept right through. Don't usually go to bed so early but I was so tired - had a headache all day yesterday that just wouldn't go, an I started to get the weird 'flashing lights' a bit which usually comes before a migraine so no wonder I ended up so tired really. Feel much better today, will drink even more water!

Haven't eaten yet, I got up at 7 and its too early for me. Have had a coffee though. Not sure what I'll be eating today, but celeriac chips WILL be involved! grin

Hope you all have a good day today, it sucks when your body is hassling for sugar, I can't quite believe how strong those cravings feel. I was so desperate for some kind of pastry the other day I couldve cried! And I'm someone who would very rarely buy anything like that - certainly wouldn't have anything like that in my cupboard, or shop cakes etc but my god I wanted them sooo badly, even though I knew if I ate them I'd feel terrible afterwards. On a strong day I walk around the co op or sains to get my bits, and smugly saunter past the cakes grin The sugary twats

BigStickBIWI Tue 15-Jan-13 08:02:06

Morning all!

There is a lot of rumbling going on about wanting sweet things, and a lot of you giving into the cravings. Can I remind you that we are only just in week 2?! The whole point of the strict, initial phase of Bootcamp is to break the addiction to carbs generally, but sugar in particular. If you give into the cravings, you have undone all the good work that you've done so far. Some of you have lost fabulous amounts of weight but are still cheating. You really need to ask yourselves why you are self-sabotaging yourselves.

The reality is, that if you have cheated, then you need to do another week of Bootcamp before you can move on to Bootcamp Light. Otherwise you will allow sugar to retain its hold over you

There are very few things that we can eat or drink that are naturally sweet without some kind of carb cost. Trouble is, the ready availability of carb-heavy/sugar-laden foods has created a sweet tooth in most of us. If we're restricting the carbs, the only way we can get this sweet fix is through either cheating (not recommended, obviously) or via the plethora of 'sugar-free', low carb products. These aren't recommended either, as they are full of artificial ingredients. (I refer you to rule 10 of Bootcamp!) Not only are we trying to avoid artificial sweeteners because we are aiming to eat natural, unprocessed foods, there is an increasing suggestion that they impede weight loss or even cause weight gain.

So next time you consider eating/drinking something sweet - please, please, please ask yourself why you are doing it. All manner of excuses can be used to justify it, but just remember what you are doing to yourself. Is it really worth it?

Ultimately, it's entirely up to you. If you cheat, you won't lose weight. Worse, you will put back on what you have worked so hard to lose. And you'll have to do another week of Bootcamp.

prettybird Tue 15-Jan-13 08:02:42

toomuchwaternotwine - I do the same! blush Plus an extra sit on the loo to make sure I've wee-ed everything possible out! blush

BlackAffronted Tue 15-Jan-13 08:04:13

Thanks to whoever mentioned nori - I have a few packs in my larder! I think I will make the crisps, and also try making tune mayo wraps. Yum.

halfthesize Tue 15-Jan-13 08:06:09

brew good morning all, finally got to sleep about 2am....

Noel how about hot water?

I have weighed in with a 2lb loss, not greatsad especially as hardly eaten in a week due to being ill, but not been to the gym and on a lot of tablets, perhaps this is why the slow startconfused
oh well a loss is a loss.

BlackAffronted Tue 15-Jan-13 08:07:15

Is 1 square of dark choc classed as cheating? <hides>

BigStickBIWI Tue 15-Jan-13 08:11:40

YES!

halfthesize Tue 15-Jan-13 08:13:12

what a great post BIWI and so true, since starting this woe back in April, my need for sugar has completely gone, but I did have to stick to the rulessmile
now anything sweet just tastes funny and certainly not worth it.
this woe is a lifestyle change, not just a quick fix, so you really need to embrace itwink it really is worth it.

skandi1 Tue 15-Jan-13 08:31:56

Despite being well over the stage of craving carb (don't even fancy any or miss anything other than choc), I still don't feel great.

Most of you fellow boot campers are reporting feeling full of energy etc. I feel tired beyond belief and foggy of head which is why I can't find the energy to get to the gym.

I have read about candida die off. I wonder if its that?

If so, then how can I help myself feel better or at least get over the die off sooner?

And I don't look great like you are all reporting. I look effing terrible.

Any experiences?

halfthesize Tue 15-Jan-13 08:36:44

skandi do you think it could be a bog? there is a lot going round at the moment. are you drinking enough water and making sure your potassium levels are ok? hope you start to feel better soon x

halfthesize Tue 15-Jan-13 08:37:16

stupid phone, obviously meant bugwink

skandi1 Tue 15-Jan-13 08:52:15

Halfthesize. Pretty sure it's not a bug. The DC have not had anything and DH hasn't either.

I am taking supplements and getting plenty of salty food to counteract the water I am drinking. And I get thru between 3 and 4l a day.

Strange thing is most of you are reporting to be cold. I am hot. I am sweating and feel clammy. I have checked my temp is completely normal.

Perhaps it is the candida die off? Yikes. I read it can be unpleasant and last for weeks. <weeps>

BigStickBIWI Tue 15-Jan-13 08:53:07

skand1 - sorry to hear you're still not feeling great. I would echo half's post - are you keeping your sodium/potassium/magnesium levels up?

Are you a candida sufferer? It could be that, I suppose.

List out for me what you have been eating over the last 3 or 4 days.

halfthesize Tue 15-Jan-13 09:07:44

skandi I Had never actually heard Candida, just looked it up. looks like it covers a lot of symptoms hmm hope you feel better soon.

skandi1 Tue 15-Jan-13 09:09:20

Hi BIWI

Sat:
B- omelette cooked in coconut oil
L-leftover roast chicken with lettuce cucumber and avocado (just 1 avocado this time!) w mayo
D:salmon with broccoli in garlic butter
S- M&S pork crackling

Sun:
B- lie in so missed it.
L: eggs x3 fried in butter with spinach and smoked salmon
D:confit duck leg (x1) with celeriac chips
S: yog and pork crackling

Mon:
B-tiny bit of yog with vanilla powder
L:salad of lettuce cucumber and avocado (1/2 avocado) and crab w mayo
D:grilled halloumi cheese with salad and spinach and olives.
S: pork crackling

I am drinking 3 coffees with cream a day. 3 to 4l of water and herb tea such as chamomile, green tea and peppermint.

I have not had a single cheat of any kind.

I wasn't aware that I may have candida but I suffer from rosacea and I have just discovered online that the two are linked. High sugar/carb diet can lead to intestinal candida overgrowth which can show on face as rosacea. Charming. Whether this is what is ailing me, I guess only time will tell as the rosacea should improve if I stick to the diet and kill off the overgrowth.

BigStickBIWI Tue 15-Jan-13 09:15:28

Your meals look good, but how much fat are you eating? I can see a bit in your diet, but you may need to eat a bit more. When you are eating salad at lunchtime, are you putting an oily dressing on the leaves? It could be that you're not eating enough as well.

If it is candida - which it could be, if you are a rosacea sufferer - then I suppose die-off is a strong possibility, in which case, it's about 'keeping on keeping on'.

Be kind to yourself - don't push it if you're doing any exercise - and hopefully by this time next week you will be feeling a lot better.

skandi1 Tue 15-Jan-13 09:18:00

Thanks BIWI. I generally use olive oil on salads.

To up fat intake I have started putting a teaspoon full of coconut oil in my herbal teas. It sounds gross but its absolutely lovely and I can recommend it. It gives it the fuller taste and a satisfying aaahhhh when you drink it.

Morning all, just checking it with my slight NC to reflect my onwards and downwards attitude smile Win of the day was my coat which I ordered a size down from what I normally take (because I am an idiot and WANTED it like a child despite it being limited stock) actually fits! SIZE 12!!

Morning mummies

B- was scrambled eggs... I actually couldnt eat it all!
L- leftovers from last nights stir fry
D- is undecided!

Im gona have my work cut out for me this next week as DS2 whos 18 months has got a chicken pok on him ahhhh! I thought hed got away with it but obviously not...its going to be hell and another week confined to the house, i duno how im going to get DS1 to school if DS2 cant go out!

BigStickBIWI Tue 15-Jan-13 09:28:08

Oh goodness, sorry to hear that, Princess

I just want to second what BIWI said about sugar and sweet stuff. The more you give into temptation, the more you'll crave sweet things. It's like trying to give up smoking, but having one or two cigs a day - it just prolongs the agony.

I gave up all sweeteners in my second week low carbing - I went from having sweeteners in white coffee to drinking plain black unsweetened, dropped all 'pretend' low carb food (eg Atkins bars, low carb cheesecake, Splenda in my cream etc.) and just white-knuckled it through. Three weeks later, I accidentally put a sweetener in my morning coffee (due to not actually being awake) and it tasted AWFUL - which was a revelation.

Honestly, if you can just resist anything sweet for two weeks, you'll lose you cravings for sweetness. I never would have believed it until I did it myself. Please give it a go - it makes this way of eating so much easier, and your chance of long term success that much higher. You're not depriving yourself, you're doing yourself a huge favour.

Im thinkin today will be ok and tomorrow night/ tonight will be the worst with fever if hes anything like DS1 was. So im feeeding him up now before he doesnt wana eat!

halfthesize Tue 15-Jan-13 09:36:49

Oh Princess sorry to hear DS2 has now come down with them, bet you are climbing the wallshmm Fingers crossed he gets a mild case x

Morning all

Just here to record the rest of my food from yesterday smile

L: 3 low carb sausages, celery & full fat philly
D: Celeriac soup
Snacks: a bit of brie, sugar free lemon & lime jelly

I managed 6 pints of water too!

BigStickBIWI Tue 15-Jan-13 10:03:25

HavinganOffDay - ^ ^ ^ see previous posts for wagging finger about sugar-free jelly!

Jacaqueen Tue 15-Jan-13 10:10:53

I see you lot are still chatting away.

I cannot keep up!

Real life is getting in the way at the moment.

DorisIsWaiting Tue 15-Jan-13 10:23:18

Hi BIWI and you fantasic lot.

Please can I join, I have been lurking since last week when I started looking for ideas (I didn't join in as I didn't know how well I'd be able to manage without carbs- a HUGE part of my old diet). I started at 13st 12 3/4 last wednesday and already weight is coming off (about 6lbs yesterday!). For the first few days I really did feel like poo (I was giving up my can of coke a day habit at the same time!). Still getting headaches in the last 24-48 hrs.

However I am feeling better and my skin feels healthier, I need to do more exercise but 2 of dd's are home today. I've also got the Rose Elliot veggie low carb book for ideas (need to find the time to read it!)

Due to weigh in tomorrow so please can I be added to the spreadsheet.

PostBellumBugsy Tue 15-Jan-13 10:24:12

Just to add to BIWI's message about not giving in to the sweet cravings in the first two weeks - LISTEN TO HER WARNINGS, because it is really important.

In the first two weeks, you are trying to get your body to change gear - out of its old ways of depending on a constant supply of carbs & sugar for energy, into using up your own blubber to get its energy source. This requires your body to stop pumping out insulin to store all those carbs & start using ketones, which is what the body uses for fuel, when there isn't sugar flowing through your veins.

This can be a bit of a shock to the system, specially if like most of us, you have been chowing through carby foods for most of your life. Everytime you think about food, your body reacts by pumping out a whole load of insulin, the sweeter the food you are thinking about, the more insulin is produced. So, stop thinking about cheats & treats & stop eating them.

This is your chance to find your inner sylph - so give it your best shot & don't cheat!!!!!!

Doshusallie Tue 15-Jan-13 10:37:58

[wonder if I can kick my sweeteners in my tea and coffee]

Sitting here in my gym stuff but don't actually think i am going to have time to go to the gym after all! Does wearing the clothes count?

Greek yog for brekkie. Going to have eggs and bacon and mushrooms for lunch - drool.

NoveltySlippers Tue 15-Jan-13 10:45:42

grin at 'does wearing the clothes count' doshu

NoveltySlippers Tue 15-Jan-13 10:48:28

Quick question - what are people's thoughts on slow cookers?

Now my diet is getting more meat and veg (as opposed to pasta, pasta, pasta), am thinking a slow cooker could really come into its own with this WOE (obviously minus the pots and carrots). But you hear so many people complaining about them / saying they just sit in the cupboard.

Any devotees?

Is frying shallots at 7am a mug's game / does that way madness lie? I just love the idea of coming home to some tender meat falling off the bone on these cold wintry nights.

NoveltySlippers Tue 15-Jan-13 10:53:03

Princess sorry to hear about DS2 sad

GinotPrigio Tue 15-Jan-13 10:54:07

NoveltySlippers I'm a massive slow cooker fan. It works really well with cheap cuts of meat too so its perfect for low-carbing on a budget. I use mine at least twice a week, or did until I broke the ceramic bowl. Doh! Must look for a replacement.

I'm a stay at home/work from home mum so I usually don't fry the shallots and meat till late morning or lunch time. But I have heard of people doing the frying the night before, putting it in the fridge and then chucking everything into the slow cooker in the morning.

I love using the slow cooker for low carb stuff - my recipes are probably for the stage AFTER the first two weeks, but I cook things like Paprika Chicken (with sour cream), Steak and Kidney (like a pie filling, but with no pie!), Coq au Vin, Chicken Chasseur, Irish Stew and Chilli. I d quite a bit of pre-cooking on the stove before adding to the slow cooker, 'cos I like to brown my meat for flavour, and also burn off the alcohol in any wine I'm using.

I do the same FDM re preparation - I have a ''sear and stew'' thing so I can use the slow cooker pan on the hob

I love love my slow cooker for low carbing - shin beef is fabulous in it

coldethyl Tue 15-Jan-13 11:10:06

Princess, sorry to hear about the chicken pox in DC2. My DF is immuno-suppressed, so we looked very closely into transference of chicken pox when DS3 had it last September - you need 15 minutes of continuous exposure to the infection (like holding the child) to catch it, so if you put DC2 in the buggy with the rain cover on and time it so you drop-and-run or pick-up-and-run at school, you should be ok.

Last night's tantrum turns out to be PMT, and in the end I made a decaff coffee and washed the kitchen floor as a displacement activity, then went to bed (is this WOE meant to make one's house cleaner?).

Staying on the wagon this time as I had dropped another 1lb this morning (although that might be TOTM)!

BigStickBIWI Tue 15-Jan-13 11:17:31

grin at making the house cleaner, and wearing gym clothes!

My trainer cancelled my session this morning, which I'm quite glad about, as my arms are so stiff from my Sunday session. Could barely reach around my back to do up my bra this morning. I think another rest day is probably a good idea.

NoveltySlippers Tue 15-Jan-13 11:18:47

Pinot, FDM and Willie - that sounds really tempting!

Do you have any recommendations for the brand/type of slow cooker to go for?

slatternlymother Tue 15-Jan-13 11:20:38

furrydogmother mmm those all sound lovely; are they on the recipe thread? I'd love to pick your brains. As long as they're low carb <snurk>. And I've never tried beef shin, either <shallow life>.

Ginot That's a really good idea, doing it the night before. Actually never thought of that <dense>

Managed to stay away from the scales this morning, as it's becoming as addictive as sugar! I'm going to try and last until Friday, because I know I'll lose less this week.

Going for a run this lunchtime with my friend, and I'm looking forward to that in a weird kind of way.

B: FF Natural yoghurt
L: Tuna salad with a few dollops of mayonnaise
D: Fish pie topped with swede mash and some creamed leeks swished in, cabbage for me, peas for DH (he's not LC-ing, just staying away from proccessed stuff)

BigStickBIWI Tue 15-Jan-13 11:22:56

I love my slow cooker, although I don't use it as much as I could/should. Although to be honest, that's because I mostly work from home, so can do stuff earlier in the day and shove it in the oven too cook. That said, we have a smart meter now, and I was shock to see it change colour when I put the oven on! I need to get into the slow cooker habit a bit more, I think.

But, I also have a pressure cooker, which is fab for cooking things like shin of beef. Takes 10 minutes at high pressure and that's all!

NoveltySlippers Tue 15-Jan-13 11:25:08

slatternly - yes, I totally know what you mean about weaning yourself off the scales. Is is a bit addictive, and totally unnecessary!

BIWI yes, sounds like you need a rest! Well done for all the hard work though.

Am quite excited about slow cooking now. Looking at recipe books - if anyone has experience of these, or other recommendations, do let me know!:

www.amazon.co.uk/Hamlyn-Colour-Cookbooks-Cooker-Recipes/dp/0600620697/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1358248805&sr=1-1

www.amazon.co.uk/Ultimate-Slow-Cooker-Delicious-Recipes/dp/0600618951/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1358248805&sr=1-3

www.amazon.co.uk/Good-Food-Favourites-Triple-tested-Recipes/dp/1849902089/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1358248805&sr=1-4

NoveltySlippers Tue 15-Jan-13 11:33:48

Hmm, just browsing brands (yes - whilst at work. Sorry boss! brew)

The sear and stew ones look very handy. How important / necessary is it to have a timer though, do you think? Found a nice Morphy Richards one, but no timer.

I have I think morphy Richards sear and stew and I'm happy with it - didn't really look at any others though!

halfthesize Tue 15-Jan-13 11:36:23

novelty I am also big fan of slow cookers, I use mine loadssmile

Oooh blush

I thought sugar free jelly was OK...I'm sure I read about it as snack on a previous (summer time I think) thread.

Oh well - that's that 'treat' out of the window!

NoveltySlippers Tue 15-Jan-13 11:58:38

half and willie - my mind is made up! Shall report back on slow cooked loveliness... (Though have to wait two more weeks for payday first angry)

lapetitedame Tue 15-Jan-13 12:54:10

Well done all losers....only 1lb loss here but am slow loser and TOM last week so any loss is good. These threads are great but hard to keep up with and by the time I'm finished reading I can't find all those interesting links/articles that people post. BIWI you are such a fountain of knowledge on low carbing - would it be possible I wonder to have a thread (like the question and recipe threads) where links to all the articles supporting this WOE could be posted - feel cheeky asking as you do so much already - but also feel it would benefit us newbies/converts - its such a mind change from low fat eating some of us may need to keep convincing ourselves that its okay -

halfthesize Tue 15-Jan-13 12:58:30

isn't funny years ago I used to get excited about New clothes, make up etc. these days it's more about stuff for the house ie. slow cookers, Hoover's etcgrin what happenedconfused

halfthesize Tue 15-Jan-13 13:00:39

novelty mine is a,delonghi, only cost about £15 on offer from amazon a few years backsmile

GinotPrigio Tue 15-Jan-13 13:04:15

Novelty I have a morphy richards. Or at least did until I smashed the dish! It doesn't have a timer but if I am out for several hours I just put it on "low" and its fine.

NoveltySlippers Tue 15-Jan-13 13:23:41

Definitely half!

I can even get excited about Tupperware, when the mood takes! <yes, I have turned into my mother>

queribus Tue 15-Jan-13 13:24:30

Gadzooks! I'm cold. Must have a cup of tea.

B mushrooms in butter
L two egg omlette with ham and cheese, one cold sausage
D ? poss celeriac mash and ham hock

BigStickBIWI Tue 15-Jan-13 13:27:44

HavinganOffDay - read Bootcamp rules! Rule no 10 is about avoiding artificial sweeteners, which is what sugar-free jelly is full off. We are aiming to eat natural, unprocessed foods as much as possible. (And there is some evidence/suggestion that artificial sweeteners contribute to weight gain)

Also, and perhaps more importantly, the whole point of cutting out sweet stuff is to break our addiction to sugar/sweet things.

After Bootcamp, the first two weeks, is over, and you have 'recalibrated' your taste buds, you can, if you wish occasionally add back in sugar-free products, but only occasionally - you may find that you simply don't need them by then.

Turkeytwangers Tue 15-Jan-13 13:28:02

Just half a lb off for me this weekend...I think I need to wean myself off the daily weighing as well. It's a bit uneccesary and intimately disheartening!

Today so far,

B - 2 boiled eggs, dollop of Greek yoghurt
L - Tuna mayo salad with avocado and feta
T - Undecided

What's the general consensus on Quorn mince and tinned tomatoes?

NoveltySlippers Tue 15-Jan-13 13:28:19

NB. Just eating cold sausages (97% meat - I checked!) and some mayonnaise for lunch.

If anyone wants mayonnaise top tips, this one's LOVELY.

I couldn't get the Delouis one, but I did find Sussex Valley Classic Mayonnaise - only 0.3g carbs. It's really, really nice!

BigStickBIWI Tue 15-Jan-13 13:30:25

'full of', obviously blush

TheEarlyBird Tue 15-Jan-13 13:46:10

BigStick - can I just confirm something please? Should I make sure that every meal has some veg (for carbs) and some fat in it. Does eating fat (butter/cream) actually speed up the weight loss. I do wonder if my modest loss may be because I often have protein only meals eg scrambled eggs, cheese and/or meat. Am still drinking quite a lot of tea/coffee but it's all black. And I'm getting my 3 litres of water down me too <wonders why I live in the loo>

HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey Tue 15-Jan-13 13:59:59

Today my friend wanted a Mc Donalds breakfast.

I went and had a bacon and egg mc muffin, i ate the egg and bacon and through the muffin away.

How about that for will power?!
<polishes halo>

BigStickBIWI Tue 15-Jan-13 14:04:20

It may not be possible (or you may not want) veg/salad at every meal - e.g. breakfast - but yes, you certainly should be eating fat with every meal. It's not about speeding up weight loss, it's about getting the right proportion of nutrients. We should be eating fat:protein:carbs.

Obviously with eggs and cheese you are getting fat as well, but with eggs there is more protein than fat. With meat, you are getting some fat, but this obviously depends on the cut of meat - chances are you're actually eating more protein.

Fat does not provoke an insulin release, whereas protein does (albeit a lot less than carbohydrate).

You should certain not be eating meals that are just fat or just protein. Aim to combine the three nutrients for best effect and health.

If your weight loss is slow, you might also be wise considering reducing the amount of tea/coffee you're drinking. Some believe that caffeine also spikes your insulin.

ToomuchWaternotWine Tue 15-Jan-13 14:05:09

lapetitedame if you look on the spreadsheet you will see a tab called, I think, resources. Some of the best books, articles and videos are linked there to help you with further reading on the subject of low carbing. Dr Briffas book is a good starting point.

TheEarlyBird Tue 15-Jan-13 14:07:48

Sorry - stupid question alert! The three nutrients you mention are.........??? Doh. And, yes, I'll try and limit my hot drink intake. Thanks.

ToomuchWaternotWine Tue 15-Jan-13 14:08:27

And while I'm here:

B scrambled eggs made with butter and double cream. Yum. My go-to breakfast now. Never thought I would wake up and crave water and eggs, but I do!
L tuna mayo in little gem lettuce wraps with pancetta scattered on top.
D will be chicken stir fry, using water chestnuts and bean sprouts in place of noodles for me.

Right, am off to briskly walk the dog through the snow before pick up time or maybe just browse MN with a decaf coffee for half an hour it's bloody freezing out there

BigStickBIWI Tue 15-Jan-13 14:10:12

<pins 'well done' badge on Hokey>

lapetitedame Tue 15-Jan-13 14:25:13

Many thanks Toomuch will go and have a good read this evening. thanks

catinboots Tue 15-Jan-13 14:29:11

Hi BIWI

Can I join this party late?

I started yesterday as last week was a weird week with lots of stuff going on.

I need someone to add me to the spreadsheet as I'm on my ipad.

I started at 11st 9lb blush

I've also downloaded a carb counter app which is good. I'm struggling to drink the water though as it's sooooo cold

BigStickBIWI Tue 15-Jan-13 14:36:22

lapetitedame (a good name for these threads!)

Good idea, actually. I know some of the links are on the spreadsheet, but not all of them. I suppose what I should really do is go back through the threads and 'harvest' them all!

Start with the ones that are on the spreadsheet, and I'll see what I can do.

Welcome, catinboots. And try drinking the water hot, if that's easier.

BigStickBIWI Tue 15-Jan-13 14:37:07

... and you're on the spreadsheet now

Yakshemash Tue 15-Jan-13 14:50:05

Help me everyone - I'm a low carb lurker (I'm doing Bootcamp but am not on the SOF).

Doing well, have lost 4 lbs and enjoying the food (apart from missing fruit badly).

BUT tonight am going to the cinema for a three hour feature. And I always have a big bag of Minstrels when I go to the cinema.

I feel like I'm DOOMED to eat chocolate tonight and just can't imagine sitting there for three hours without my hand rhythmically dipping into a bag of chocs.

Aaargh! I need some self-discipline. Tell me how much better I'll feel tomorrow if I resist....

prettybird Tue 15-Jan-13 14:54:47

You will feel better!

Why not, if you have time, make some celeriac chips so that you have something to occupy your hands?

halfthesize Tue 15-Jan-13 14:57:33

yakshe try taking bottled water, with either pork scratching, celery, cheese chunks or a mixturewink

I took Hogbites to the cinema at the weekend... And a bottle of fizzy water, as it fills me up and feels a little bit more like a treat [tragic emoticon] Or how about a little pot of nice olives?

prettybird Tue 15-Jan-13 14:58:14

catinboots - why not get some rooibos (red bush tea) if you are wanting a hot drink. It's actually quite nice without milk. Alternatively there are some quite nice herbal teas: I like the ones with ginger in them for a nice warming effect.

RatherBeOnThePiste Tue 15-Jan-13 14:58:52

Afternoon all smile

<waves little knitted woolly hats at cat>

All is well here, just about to find lunch things, have realised it has got a bit late

Yakshemash Tue 15-Jan-13 15:14:06

Thanks everyone - it's like having a little magic support team! grin

Pork scratchings are a GREAT idea. I'm going straight from work, so won't be able to source meat/cheese/veg etc easily but I'm sure the bar at the cinema has porky things. I'm fine drinking fizzy water, but it's just the nibbles...

You're right. I'm focussing on how mega I'm going to feel tomorrow morning when I wake up still in ketosis and still all lovely and slender less fat than I was last week

Helloo helloooo i have a bit of a cheerier post for u this time....

Whilst shopping for my grandads bday prezzie i got sidetracked by some jeans in saisburys! I got a size smaller than i normally would and bought them home to try on AND they fit! There a teensy bit close but i dont care grin so after last nights feeling sorry for myself im happier nowsmile i guess even tho my weights very slowllllyyyy going my frame is shrinking! Since i low carbed before my other jeggings were really loose and my jeans fitted when they hadnt before....size 12 next!

Ilovemyteddy Tue 15-Jan-13 15:20:00

Yakshe I sat through Les Mis on Saturday whilst DH munched his way through a bag of Rolos envy. We'd just had a lovely meal, too. As others have said, take your own low-carb munchies.

And i went to the harvester for lunch... I had the simply chicken a d replaced potatoe with green beans... It was lovely!

Yakshemash Tue 15-Jan-13 15:22:21

Ilovemyteddy A bag of Rolos? That's like mental cruelty.

Ilove mine had a whole bag of Mini Eggs. I could smell them all the way through I Dreamed a Dream... Still, stuck with my scratchings!

Argh I need a boost of encouragement after a difficult day. I fell down our decking steps carrying DS this morning. He is almost 2 but has complex disabilities and a seizure disorder. I was rushing to get DD to preschool and just went over on my arse and as I landed I dropped DS on his face sad. He is badly bruised and grazed and screamed for ages. Seems ok in himself but I feel so guilty.

Afterwards I had no appetite at all. Have had some scrambled eggs with a piece of bacon but I need to stay strong and cook my planned cauli cheese and stir fried savoy cabbage for dinner and not stray near the bread basket, or the wine cupboard...

BigStickBIWI Tue 15-Jan-13 16:17:44

Oh Starfish - what a fright you must both have had! Are you OK?

prettybird Tue 15-Jan-13 16:19:40

I am desperate to get a new pair of jeans as my current pair are wearing through at the crotch and I really shouldn't be seen in public in them

However, although they are a 14, I tried on some size 14s in M&S before Christmas (when I was about the weight I am now) and no way could I get into them blush my current pair had obviuosly stretched blush. So I need to leave it until I've lost a bit more.

On the plus side, I noticed this morning that my cheekbones are becoming more prominent again smile

EwanHoozami Tue 15-Jan-13 16:22:08

Starfish what a horrible fright. You must feel really shaken. Have you had a hot drink? My DS fell smack on his face at a playgroup yesterday while I was yakking to the other parents minding the baby and he has quite the shiner.

I just feel really tearful. DH isn't home until Thursday and what I could really do with is a cup of tea made by him (because it always tastes better when he makes it) and a hug. Somehow he just always makes everything better!

I've had a cuppa, sans milk, but it didn't really hit the spot. My back is quite sore and I think I wrenched my right arm and hand at the same time. Was planning to Shred tonight, oh dear...

BigStickBIWI Tue 15-Jan-13 16:27:34

No shredding for you! <firm voice>

Have a hot bath, if you can, and take some paracetamol - try for an early night too. You need to take it easy.

Princess - well done that's fab. Onwards and downwards.

I think it's better to measure yourself by clothes rather than scales

<disclaimer do as I say not as I do> daily weigher here

Starfish- why would wine/bread/sugary food make you feel any better? You will have a momentary enjoyment of the forbidden fruit then feel guilty for eating it! Not worth it.
Put DC to bed and draw yourself a big bubble bath. Chill out for half an hour. Be kind to yourself.
You will honestly feel better and more relaxed doing that than eating sugar which will give you insulin spike then you have to deal with aftermath

BigStickBIWI Tue 15-Jan-13 16:30:26

Hmm. I think my scales are either on the way out, or the battery needs replacing. They seem to veer up and down by 5lbs a day at the moment. It is most disconcerting. I'm going to check the batteries first.

Oops x posted with everyone!

Well done ok so far today
B greek yoghurt
L leftover pork and cauliflower cheese
D pork belly slices with Savoy cabbage

Pah yes I could do without the carb aftermath!

Hot bath once the kids are down for sure. Thank you for the kind words and motivation.

catinboots Tue 15-Jan-13 16:41:28

Thanks BIWI

<waves back at Pistey>

Oh good idea re the herbal teas. I think I've got a couple of flavours at the back of the cupboard.....

Maybe that's what's wrong with me?

New batteries in scales?

Or maybe not!
Am on it today though and in the zone

slatternlymother Tue 15-Jan-13 16:45:18

Oh starfish sad are you OK? You poor thing, that must've been a real fright. I know it's hard with your DH away (mine goes away a lot too), but I promise you that stuffing your face doesn't make it better. 2 more sleeps, and he's back. It'll stay as 2 more sleeps whether you eat chips, or whether you eat nice clean healthy food. <pats hand in reassuring manner>

BIWI mine started doing that, so I bought the older style ones, with the gauge so you can see what's going on. They were lovely, posh glass Weight Watchers (hiss) ones and were about £30. They are currently sitting in the kitchen cupboard, razzing at me hmm

Hope you've all had a really nice day.

slatternlymother Tue 15-Jan-13 16:46:21

And well done princesssparkle86! Bet you're feeling great now grin

JulesJules Tue 15-Jan-13 16:47:10

No idea if I've lost any weight as we have no scales (DH killed them with the ironing board many years ago. It might be why I married himgrin)

I've felt it's a bit of a struggle, as a vegetarian, because it's quite a radical change to the way I was eating before - typically rice + veg, pasta + veg, couscous + veg etc. I'm not overkeen on eggs, but actually have been eating many and varied frittatas, really tasty. Eg: asparagus, courgette, shallots, tomatoes, spinach with cheese on top - Stilton or cream cheese, or brie or cheddar or just parmesan... (not all on the same frittata...)

I have been eating lots of cheese, and a bit of Quorn stuff - waffer thin "ham", the bacon slices and Sainsb meat free hotdogs (which tragically appear to have been discontinued -and the Quorn ones are utterly disgusting). They are not too carby, but tend to be quite low fat, so I'm putting butter and cheese on veggies.

Snacks of olives or macadamian nuts or celery sticks with cream cheese in.

The water is a bit of a struggle, I'm just about managing 2.1L a day at the moment.

anewdispensation Tue 15-Jan-13 16:48:47

I spectacularly fell off the wagon last night. I had not had any dinner and was so hungry then went to visit a friend and I had a plate of rice with tomato sauce. I am so disappointed and so gutted sad

HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey Tue 15-Jan-13 16:52:55

Oh goodness starfish how are you both doing now?

Is ds ok?

<puts on well done badge and remembers it is threw not through>

Ilovemyteddy Tue 15-Jan-13 16:54:37

Starfish I'm not your DH but have a (((hug))) from me. As the others have said treat yourself to a lovely bath and pamper yourself with potions and lotions!

Hokey have to say I was properly impressed with that.

I could do it with bacon and egg mcmuffin. Not sure about aBig Mac though

HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey Tue 15-Jan-13 17:00:09

Was not easy Gless, not easy at all.

I think i still had the sound of BIWI's caps lock ringing in my ears after i mentioned the J word!!

barleywood Tue 15-Jan-13 17:15:23

Starfish....I know it it not nearly the same but have a virtual hug from me and others on this thread.

Be kind to yourself...and here's a brew

skandi1 Tue 15-Jan-13 17:46:13

Oh Starfish! Poor you and poor Starfish DS.

Hope you are both over the shock.

Thank you grin

Starfish- sorry to hear about your fall, i hope both you and DS are feeling OK! Bummer about DH not being there for hugs... Hot bath with some relaxing candles and a nibble on some scratchings infront of he soaps maybe? thanks

MissNJE Tue 15-Jan-13 18:15:32

Hello everybody,

congrats to all of you for your great loses. I am feeling absolutely horrible today. I am on holiday in Germany to see my parents and tonight I had an argument with my mother, like every time I am visiting her. I also found out that my grandfather is in intensive care since ast night and I can't even go and visit him.

I have eaten a lot of today... I feel terrible. I can't wait to be back in England on Thursday.

halfthesize Tue 15-Jan-13 18:19:34

Sorry to hear about your fall Starfish hope you are both doing ok.

Princess well done grin

Lavenderhoney Tue 15-Jan-13 18:24:30

Starfish I hope you are feeling better, and your ds.

I have had inexplicable urges for sweet things today and I never have them normally! Had a teaspoon of peanut butter to finish the jar and chucked it out.

No shred for me I have too many chores and admin after dc in bed this week. I must get lots of stuff done before dh notices I haven't done anything and it all comes back to bite me on the bum. The weekend perhaps, if I get a move on.

B- fried egg, slice bacon, left over cabbage all in butter
L- Brie wrapped in Ham, 2 slices
D- cabbage and broccoli and a tiny bit of lamb as it was only after I made the Irish stew and dumplings for the dc I realised all the lamb had been swimming with suet and potatoes for a few hourssmile

Few olives here and there.
Water and a skimmed milk latte at coffee with a friend.

TheEarlyBird Tue 15-Jan-13 18:29:02

Oh my - celeriac chips. Just the best thing ever. I used the BBC Good Food recipe but replaced the curry powder with some posh salt with chili flakes in it. Beautiful. Am drinking my water and going to drink less tea (but must have my 2 cups of coffee in the morning or else.......)

BigStickBIWI Tue 15-Jan-13 18:34:28

Nothing wrong with suet, lavender!

MsRinky - sorry you're having a horrible time.

Suet- does that mean we can make dunplings? I assumed theyd be carby

halfthesize Tue 15-Jan-13 18:44:36

Princess Dumplings normally need a mix of suet and flour, unless anyone knows of a flour free recipe? fingers crossed they dowink

Ruprekt Tue 15-Jan-13 18:52:59

B - cup of tea

Snack - 2 HB eggs and 2 sausages with mustard and FF mayo

Lunch - lamb burger with celeriac bake and rocket with FF mayo.

Am stuffed and cannot face dinner. Need more water......................

That sounds like a good idea... Ill have a browse online and c what i can find in a bit smile

ShebaQueen Tue 15-Jan-13 19:13:40

Hello all, I can't keep up with this thread but I did read about your fall Starfish, big hugs to you, hope you and your DS are ok, what a shock for you.

I've got a niggly sore throat which I hope isn't the start of something more. Am just about to have a green tea - just about getting used to it, prefer the lemon and ginger one.

Have a good evening all.

BigStickBIWI Tue 15-Jan-13 19:46:43

Thanks BIwI i didnt have much success in looking! Will write that recipe down! grin

MsRinky Tue 15-Jan-13 19:56:18

I'm not having a horrible time! Sorry that you are though MsNJE Hope you can visit your grandfather soon and that he's OK.

Think I am having mid-life crisis. Am 40 on Thursday, and today have seen my dream job advertised. It has all the good bits of my job and none of the crap bits. I work full time. Dream job is 3 days a week. I think that's the dreamiest bit about it. I don't have any kids and don't expect that this will change given my advanced years, so it would be swapping work for time for me.

So am now frantically spreadsheeting to prove to myself that I can afford to give up 40% of my salary. Am I mad? I'm currently trying to quantify how much I spend every month to cheer myself up for having to work so hard...

MsRinky Tue 15-Jan-13 19:56:35

I'm not having a horrible time! Sorry that you are though MsNJE Hope you can visit your grandfather soon and that he's OK.

Think I am having mid-life crisis. Am 40 on Thursday, and today have seen my dream job advertised. It has all the good bits of my job and none of the crap bits. I work full time. Dream job is 3 days a week. I think that's the dreamiest bit about it. I don't have any kids and don't expect that this will change given my advanced years, so it would be swapping work for time for me.

So am now frantically spreadsheeting to prove to myself that I can afford to give up 40% of my salary. Am I mad? I'm currently trying to quantify how much I spend every month to cheer myself up for having to work so hard...

MsRinky Tue 15-Jan-13 19:57:29

Grr, double post, stupid technology.

Anyway, good news is I have been so distracted all day I just clean forgot to eat my lunch. This has never happened to me before.

starfish hope you are OK.

Still doing well here, both me and DH and am feeling positive. I have found by snacking regularly I avoid the cravings a bit.

B - scrambled eggs and bacon
L - soup, celery and pâté
D - pork steaks, cauliflower cheese from the recipe section (thanks gless).
S - pork scratchings

BigStickBIWI Tue 15-Jan-13 20:01:00

Sorry, MsRinky blush

MsRinky -
i found turning 40 was a time where I reevaluated my life.
Hey if you can afford it and its your dream job- go for it!

msrinky DO IT! Lovely work and time to yourself would be so good for your health and well being! Of course if you can afford it!

MissNJE
How are you doing with your eating while you are on holiday?
Will you get to see your grandfather whilst you are there? Mothers are notorious for winding us up and pushing our buttons wink
Be kind to yourself too - sending positive thoughts

Doshusallie Tue 15-Jan-13 20:05:37

Evening all. Oooh go for it mrs rinky. colleague I know gave up high pressure job to become a part time landscape gardener, has never been happier.

Tea was 3 turkey sausages, leeks and sprouts cooked with a splash of cream, and broccolli. Needed more cream really.

Snack was hog bites.

Didn't make it to gym today(despite wearing the clothes) so will DEFFO GO TOMORROW aches or no aches.

Boys abed, dh out, in pjs with cat on lap, with the remote. Second part of Lewis you say? Oh go on then. grin

Starfish very sorry to hear of your nasty fall, hope your bath has been restorative.

Yama Tue 15-Jan-13 20:15:39

Am knackered. Long day at work and mega stressed about upcoming house move.

B - Chicken thigh and wee dod of pate
S - Yoghurt
L - Egg mayo and salad
S - Pepperami
D - Beef and leek meatballs with celeriac mash.

Dh managed to find a ginger tea with no sugar so might have a wee cup of that and head up to bed.

Right, having been reading the John Briffa book and BIWI's posts I don't think I'm eating enough fat... (Never thought I'd say that!!) BIWI, this is what I ate today, can you tell me what you think?
B: Greek yogurt
L: Shredded red cabbage mixed with mayo and a roast chicken leg with skin
D: Gammon steak, cauliflower mashed with butter and cream, Savoy cabbage with a bit of butter on
Now I think that's a lot, but on mfp it works out about 75g of fat versus about 85g protein...
The good news is that after turning his nose up at it DP wolfed a plate of cauliflower mash so that will be on the menu again.

Oh, and forgot a pepperami, two cups of tea with a tiny bit of milk, and about 7 pints of water.

NoveltySlippers Tue 15-Jan-13 20:28:44

Starfish Sorry about your fall, and MissNJE - so sorry you're having such a tough time in Germany. thanks for you both.

MsRinky As someone who has a pressured(ish) job and often fancies running off to join the circus (okay maybe something a bit less acrobatic) - I say do it, do it, do it!

NoveltySlippers Tue 15-Jan-13 20:29:34

(Would offer some wine for courage to fill out the job app, but it's not allowed)

BigStickBIWI Tue 15-Jan-13 20:38:06

littlermissstan - I'm surprised that is less fat than protein - I would have said that it looks fine.

How does it compare with what you were eating before you decided to believe me to eat more fat?

SavoirFaire Tue 15-Jan-13 20:40:29

Evening everyone.

Starfish, what a shock. I do hope you and DS are both ok.

MsRinky, sounds exciting and worth doing the maths. I work 3 days a week and I would say that the financial shock to the system is worth considering really seriously before you do it - although I have DCs and their childcare currently absorb more than my entire salary which is a problem you won't have. Only other thing I would say is that what looks like a dream job on paper will doubtless have many crap bits, just like your current job. I know very few people who don't whinge about parts of their job. But you can't be sure about that until you go for an interview, or possibly not until you start the job. So I would say go for it, apply - you don't need to make a decision about taking the job until after you've been through the process.

So, I also have a saw throat which I think may be the signs of something. Both DCs were up over night last night so I think we're all sharing germs. Again.

My day:
B: 2 eggs and butter
L: Last nights leftover casserole along with some broccoli rice (fancied trying that in same vein as cauli rice). It was absolutely gorgeous.
D: Belly pork served with cauli cheese and some salad.

Problem though - I was very excited about pork belly and crackling. But crackling was VERY Disappointing. I have some more pork for later in the week. Please give me your tips for how to make the crackling super crackly. Thanks!

Could be wrong values on mfp maybe - it's not the most reliable of tools! And it's lots more than before, and I'm 8lbs down since new year, so shall just have a quiet preen that you approve and carry on smile

BIWI am liking your description of 'saw' throat - describes it very well wink

Hmmm, crackling - take pork out night before to dry out. Use a Stanley knife to score lots, smother in salt rubbing into all the cracks... ?