Want to lose 2 stone...

(116 Posts)
Erebus Fri 04-Jan-13 21:08:05

...from 12st 8lb to 10 1/2 stone. I'm 50, 5 foot 6 and am currently in size 18.

Why do I want to?

Largely because I can't find 'normal' clothes to fit me any more! I also have a form of body dysmorphia (entirely self-diagnosed grin) in that I don't think I'm that fat, til I see the inevitable holiday photo or try and buy say underwear and see myself in those mirrors confused & blush. I can self deceive quite well.

My plan is to eat less, eat more mindfully and exercise more. And stop drinking pinot like a fish. DH is along for the ride, too.

My current goal is to lose 2 lbs in one week (Friday morning is weigh-in day).

Just my own little check-in!

Erebus Fri 04-Jan-13 21:09:53

BMI is 29.2!

wannabedreams Fri 04-Jan-13 22:43:42

Wow good luck that's the best way really sticking to three healthy meals a day, try not to snack etc and less pinot............

Erebus Fri 11-Jan-13 11:21:45

Ok, the weigh in was this morning (Friday morning always recommended!):

12st 5lb so a 3lb loss in Week 1.

Still drinking but just one glass of 5.5% alcohol wine, not half a bottle of 13% blush I also discovered with shock that I'd need to be about 10 to 10 1/2 stone to get my BMI back to within 'normal' range! It's was 29.5 ish at the start. I can't imagine ever being 10 stone (I'm actually 5' 5 1/2", not 6" and that half inch seems to make half a stone of difference on the BMI calculator, 10 to 10 1/2 stone! Think I'll shrink. It'd be easier!)

Onwards an upwards. Or downwards, on my scales grin

Erebus Fri 11-Jan-13 11:27:14

Actually, at 5' 5" I need to lose 23lbs to get back to the very top of 'normal' BMI, being 10st 10lbs which feels more manageable!

BMI calculator

I know some people don't like BMI as a measure of size but I think it's right for me in that I'm not disproportionately tall or short and I don't have much heavy muscle, just fat grin

2cats2many Fri 11-Jan-13 11:42:03

Do My Fitness Pal.com. It's free and has worked for everyone I know.

Erebus Fri 11-Jan-13 12:49:34

Yes, I shall have a look at that, thanks! I so far have been 'power walking' on a treadmill for half an hour 3 times a week and have just started a XBox 360 kinect 'personal trainer' thing.

whatithink Fri 11-Jan-13 12:56:21

You are exactly the same weight/height as me. I am 48 next month. Like you I am aiming for 10 1/2 stone. Would love to be 10 stone but seems far too unrealistic.

Erebus Fri 11-Jan-13 13:44:37

Hi, whatithink- can I ask what your start weight is or was? Have you already begun 'the process'? What are you doing or plan to do?

10 stone is waaay unrealistic for me. I haven't been that since I was a teenager! I sat at 10 1/2 stone for years and years, but I was probably about 11 when I started my 1st pregnancy (DS1 is now 13!) and, tbh, haven't really lost it since! I've had one successful weight loss foray about 4 years ago where I think I got down to about 11 1/2 stone but it crept back on again; and my heaviest was 18 months ago when I was 13 stone.

Good luck.

Erebus Fri 11-Jan-13 13:48:03

My current motivator is not wanting to spend £30 on a pair of (per una, yes, yes, I know!) size 18 jeans that should fall off me in 2 months time!

Erebus Fri 18-Jan-13 16:03:23

Weigh in, and snowed in! About 5'' of snow and an enforced 4 mile return trip walk to retrieve a DS whose school decided to 'heroically' open this morning, but then recognised the error of its ways...

Anyway, 12/2 today! That's a 3 lb weight loss in week 2; 6 lbs altogether.

Erebus Fri 25-Jan-13 08:18:37


Was a bit disheartened as I was hoping to a) lose at least 2lbs this week (as opposed to the maybe unsustainable 3lbs of the past 2 weeks) and b) in doing so, hit 12 stone!

But not to be, however, 2 reasons, I think: I haven't been 'very good' around wine. In fact, 2 evenings this week I drank 3 largeish glasses blush an maybe even more relevant, AF seems to have come. I say 'seems' because <TMI alert> I am peri-menopausal and it can come any time though is often not very heavy, but I'm sure even having periods proves I am still subject to the hormonal water retention associated with them!

Week 3:
12st 1 lb
BMI 27.7
weight loss this week 1lb
total loss 7lbs in 3 weeks.

Aiming for 11/13 next weigh in.

mamaus Fri 25-Jan-13 18:39:05

Hello Erebus,
May I please join you in your Friday weigh ins? I have noticed your thread since it started, your self diagnosed body dysmorphia comment really struck a chord with me. I can get to the point of thinking I don't look too bad, until the inevitable candid photo appears! (My sister in law, loves taking candid photos--it can be a real buzz kill!)
Anyhow, I am going to be a bridesmaid (technically, matron) in May, and the dress is horribly unforgiving. Leave it to vanity as my motivator.... Actually, my family history is absolutely packed with type 2 diabetes, heart disease, cancer, you name it.
I am 37 years old, with 2 toddlers, and I have a bit of a "party girl" past....
I need to get and stay healthy for them, and me.
I have been doing my fitness pal, sort of half heartedly for 2 weeks now. I realise that if I had joined you when you started, I could also be down 7 lbs--well done by the way!!
So, if you don't mind...
Week 1: 12 stone blush
See you next week!

sprucedup Fri 25-Jan-13 20:17:37

Right I'd like to join too - I'm getting married on 23 march and want to shift ten pounds to get back to pre baby weight. I do the "eat less exercise more" diet that always worked before, but these days DS1 hogs all my time and I need motivating to get out. Plus hurt my knee so it's harder to do anything. And at his dinner time I often find I've finished his and eaten all his little snacks to boot. Can't quite see why I've not been mega motivated but I really am going for it from NOW. 10st2 now, aiming for 9st6.

Right off to do mastermind general knowledge

Erebus Fri 25-Jan-13 21:30:23

You are very welcome to join me!

I am basically doing PaulMcKenna but without too much woo (iykwim! grin). He does tend to associate overeating as being a compensation for un-faced emotional difficulties- which he urges you to confront and recognise, which I do understand but I can wrack my brain and still come to the conclusion I'm overweight because I eat casually and thoughtlessly. It's there, I reach for it, I eat it. I can eat one or two biscuits and don't need to eat the whole packet, for instance- but next time I walk past that open packet, I may well have another. And so on. My meal portions are too large; I end lunch with a packet of crisps etc. I guzzle wine.

Now I am attempting to try and really feel my hunger -not 'feel really hungry', mind- PMc says, more or less, imagine extreme desperate hunger as 0 or 1 on a scale, and being so full you could happily vomit as 10; aim to eat when you're 2 or 4 and stop when you're 7 on that scale.

I am not really calorie counting, but, being a woman in the UK, I have been steeped in the lore of calorific values, 'good' and 'bad' food all my life so yes, I know a slice of malt loaf contains way more calories than the same amount of say rye bread, so I am opting for the rye bread, even though, in theory, I should be eating exactly what I want on PMc but that's assuming I have trained my body to only eat what it needs... not quite ready for that risk yet!

Anyway, please feel free to post your thoughts too; or just to weigh-in with me next Friday morning!

Best of luck and keep those goals in mind! Write the relevant date on a post-it note and stick it on the fridge and on the biscuit tin! I just need to look at my disintegrating size 18 jeans and remind myself I am not replacing them with another pair of size 18s!

sprucedup Fri 25-Jan-13 22:14:42

I like PMcK ideas too, have done a CD a few years ago. I think it worked because I was ready for it and I'm over the years of calorie counting. It's no way to live. Saying that I just signed up for my fitness pal, horrified at today's huge count after a bread binge! So, tomorrow good habbits begin.

Erebus Sat 26-Jan-13 15:21:40

I sneakily weighed myself this morning just to see if I really was 12/1, maybe secretly hoping that AF's worst effects may have passed and with it another lb or so, but no, still 12/1! So I won't weigh again til Friday!

Samnella Sat 26-Jan-13 16:59:53


May I join?

Just posted a thread about being fed up of weighing, counting, paying and logging blah, blah. I just want a straight forward plan of healthy eating. I too am bridesmaid this year which TBH having never been a bridesmaid and always wanting to be, I am now dreading.

Starting weight: 12.2 (BMI 29.16 blush

I have been bad all day but I am going to start now and weigh in on Friday as well even though I would not have done a full week. I must get under 12 stone.

sprucedup Sat 26-Jan-13 20:11:37

Done my first day of being good Paul-style, but sneakily using myfitnesspal to count calorie as I too don't trust my body to reject malt loaf in favour of rye bread. My god I'd forgotten how much calories are in cereal -everything-. I'm not sure I'd agree with Paul about my mental anguish either, I think I just really love malt loaf's taste so when it is near me I eat the whole thing. It's boredom that gets me ploughing through baguette though. Anyway, dress fitting today and I am focusing on how good it will look when I succeed and picturing it in my head. Another PMc trick. My mums advise is to swap wine for g&t, and it does seemed to have worked for her waistline so I will give it a go!
Good that the sneaky weigh went well, eyes on the prize for the rest of the week now.

sprucedup Sat 26-Jan-13 20:14:21

Good luck Samnella, keep at it.

Erebus Sat 26-Jan-13 20:55:43

Samnella- welcome on board, but first I need to wag a stern finger at you!

You haven't been 'bad' all day at all. You made a combination of 'suboptimal' food choices or excessive quantities; and/or you ignored your body telling you you'd had enough! grin There are no bad and good foods, there is just food.

It's really worth looking at Paul McKenna ('I can make you thin' rather than 'Gastric band', imho!). The ethos couldn't be simpler. It amounts to deep eating awareness and reconnecting with 'hungry? ->eat; full enough? -> stop'.

As I've already said, I am not quite comfortable enough to not weigh or totally disregard calorific values (malt loaf v. rye bread...) so you are welcome to snigger at my pontificating above ...smile.. but I am oh-so-trying to put my fork down between every mouthful and really sense each mouthful. At least 20 chews. Every time I look at available food (snack-wise in particular), I think, among other things, 'OK, am I actually hungry or am I bored, or am I reaching for it because it's there?'. I may choose to have some. But I have to remind myself not to decide how much I will eat before I start (as many diets recommend) but I try and focus on my 'have I had enough?' reflex. Not necessarily 'Am I full?' (to PMc standards which is 'just full') as, if it a snack, I don't want any nearness to full, I want 'curiosity satisfied, yes, it's good, it tastes great, I've enjoyed the small quantity I've eaten but now, so as to not undo all the other good work I'm doing, I have to walk away from it now as any more is flying in the face of my new awareness, and here I go!'. I am working on this. Wine is not a good idea, as, guess what? one's ability to rationalise quantity and calorific value is oddly distorted by a glass or two. Who knew? grin

Do not dread being a bridesmaid, see it as a fortunate opportunity to beat this stupid weight thing. When is the wedding? How much would you like to realistically lose? How much will bring you to a BMI of 25? Focus on that dress and how good you'll look in it!

Hadn't thought about G&T v. wine! Thanks spruced!

And I shall be taking a rollcall of all you lot next Friday! Stand by your beds scales!

And keep posting.

Samnella Sat 26-Jan-13 21:16:42

Thankyou Erebus smile

I want to lose 2 stone. BMI of 25 would be 10.5 which is just over where I am aiming. Ideally I want to be a bit less than that but I need to take one step at a time.

You are right about food not being bad. I think I might try and dig out the Paul McKenna CD I have knocking about somewhere.

Samnella Sat 26-Jan-13 21:27:06

Question for anyone please smile

What are you doing about cakes/biscuits etc? I find they just trigger something in me and I just want to keep eating them [bblush]. I want to just ban them for now. My friend has had success doing this.

mamaus Sun 27-Jan-13 00:38:11

Samnella, I saw your other thread, and really relate. Last year my sister lost a significant amount of weight and, while of course I am happy for her, I am also quite jealous! She worked very hard, was extremely disciplined and ate, well not much at all!

I agree, calorie counting, weighing foods and blah blah, I just can't see myself maintaining that forever. I am a snacker, whose portions can easily get out of control.

Some positive steps I have taken this week :
1. My fitness pal, simply to make me aware of calories, and accountable for everything I eat
2. When mindless grazing urge comes up I chew gum, or drink water, or ask myself, idle hands? Just to make sure it isn't out of boredom. I quit smoking 3 years ago, but know that sometimes I may snack to fill that void if that makes sense?
3. Resisted baking! I am pretty good about not buying biscuits etc. but I have the ingredients available for various temptations--not using them was a small victory!
4. Ordered "I can make you thin" from eBay
5. Joined this thread--I need to be accountable somewhere!

Also, Erebus, I have a photo of my pending bridesmaid dress taped up right next to my fridge door handle, has stopped me a few times already! smile
Good point about seeing it as a positive opportunity, rather than dreading it--I will try and change my attitude.

Nice to know I am not alone! Wishing us all success this week and the weeks to come.

mamaus Sun 27-Jan-13 00:46:21

side note-- I am American, I have never had malt loaf, but randomly almost got some last week! Should I add it to my "avoid and don't keep in the house" list? smile

Erebus Sun 27-Jan-13 10:51:57

Say 'no' to malt loaf at this stage of weight loss!! grin . Once you get to a stage of really understanding your body's food needs and your desires (can't see me ever actually achieving that, tbh!) I guess you can have malt loaf in the house and have one, small slice now and then.

I don't have cakes and biscuits in the house, usually, though I had to get rid of the remains of the Xmas goodies (see that value-weighting, again!) prior to embarking on weight loss! My family don't have a very sweet tooth which helps. I do tend to have 70kcal muesli bars around though, and might have one mid morning, though I try and have an apple or one ryvita with a cup of tea.

Had a fry up for breakfast today- a piece of toasted rye bread (40cals?), a poached egg and a piece of dry-fried bacon, the 'round' bit, no fat or rind. Rather have a full English though! But an acceptable compromise. Soup and a thin slice or 2 of baguette for lunch, then whatever my mum comes up with for family dinner tonight. Bit of a minefield as I don't want her to know I am on a diet. I don't need it to be splashed all around my wider family and more distant friends where mum knows their mums. The intimate details of gynae issues etc she happily tells me about these women is astounding! Don't want to provide any ammo!

Then I shall do a 30 minute 'power walk' on the treadmill watching telly, 1.75 miles at 3.6 mph, incline of 3! Gets me to break a sweat and raises my heart-rate a fair bit.

Anyway, good luck to all. Keep the goal in sight!

sprucedup Sun 27-Jan-13 18:19:25

Mamaus, I would avoid malt loaf like the plague, it is the most moreish food ever invented. I have banned it even though DSD adores it. We both jsut cram it in in a frenzy. But actually I did Ok today, we went to a cafe and had soup and "herby scone". Which means butter and cheese crammed mountain of bready deliciousness, but the whole wait after each mouthful and see if I'm full thing really worked because i ate so slowly i enjoyed a third of it (DS got the rest and promptly ground it into the floor) ten times more than i would have enjoyed the whole thing eaten at my usual hoover speed. Plus kept looking at my phone screensave of the dress. I agree wiht you erebus about keeping the end result in mind, it's much more motivating than trying on undersized clothes I find! I did I can make you think a good few years back, it didn't work unequivocally at first, but actually has been teh basis of my successful weight loss campaigns. Shame I threw out the window when pg and put on four stone of fizzy sweets and lasagne blush. Samnella I personally think you need to be a way into successul losing before you can have the tempting stuff nearby. I am the same about once i start I find i've eaten the lot unless - why make it harder for yourself. In a couple of weeks, when you're glorying in your success, you can have the things in the house and laugh in their faces. I look forward to mocking oaty biscuits and Fudge bars.

sprucedup Sun 27-Jan-13 18:25:03

I don't like advertising being on a diet either. What about saying you had a massive fry up and feel a bit stuffed, so you can do the stopping when full and not finishing whatever it is? My mum is like a sparrow and i hate owning up to being on a diet. With the best will in the world she says things like, just don't snack dear and the weight will fall off.

She's right, but if it was that simple I'd be like a bloody whippet!

Erebus Sun 27-Jan-13 22:25:30

spruced oh yes, re motherly advice. My mum says exactly the same sort of things, like '3 solid, good meals a day and no snacking, that's the way'... yes, she's 79, 5'4" and just on the cusp of 14 and 16 BUT she smokes about 30+ a day and has done since she was 20; she stopped twice (I can well remember...) and lasted less than a year each time- why? Because she started piling weight on!

So I take that advice from whence it comes. In fact, faced with, once again, the same size slab of food she also serves my DH, I did say actually, less for me, I have a couple of lbs to lose and she was off- how much? Over what time scale? Eat this, don't eat that etc so she does know but I shan't mention it and be evasive when questioned again! I know she always comments when my cousins' DC (early to mid 20s, now) are on diets, I always get the details like 'Well, she's doing some daft Zambo style thing, twice a week I believe, ridiculous- and goes out to some dieting club once a week, but my sister (said dieter's gran) says she's lost 3 stone but then she certainly had that to lose, wide beam, you know'... (Having not seen the poor girl in, oh, 5 years?!)

So.... no. grin

Probably blew my calories tonight tho, sausage casserole (tho I offloaded one of 3 sausages to DS1), a mountain of mash (ate 1/2) and green beans, all aswim in sauce, followed by a shop bought cheesecake which DH served and gave me a bit more than I should have eaten, but I did anyway blush... but I did do half an hour on the treadmill tonight!

Samnella Sun 27-Jan-13 23:16:24

Hi all.

Sprucedup I have banned all biscuits, cakes etc as I know I just cant handle it all right now. Like you say I may come back to it later.

So. Day one has gone well. I think. Porridge with a teaspoon of sugar for breakfast. We then went to go to the cinema but as it turned out I had forgotten my bank card and DH had forgotten his wallet so had to miss the cinema and placate our disappointed children with a MacD which we fortunately had enough change for. I will admit I ate 5 fries. Yes I counted them. I came home and made some soup from a bag of frozen veg. I have to say it was akin to the devils spawn but by then I was so hungry the deed had to be done. I tried a WW pita bread but that made the soup look good so opted for 3 poppy seed crackers. Followed by an orange. DH made some lovely looking fairy cakes with the kids which although tempted I avoided. I busied myself with cleaning the bedrooms . Particularly my daughters which was truly hideous. I even tidied and reorganised the airing cupboard shock. At one point I considered removing the curtains from our room for a wash but that seemed a step too far grin. Dinner was a bit disorganised as I had ordered with Sainsburys but they were late so had planned sea bass and salad but instead had pasta with home made tomato sauce. I know DH uses a lot of olive oil so had a small portion and a side salad followed by a yogurt.

I definitely haven't drunk enough today. But judging by my wee I am normally in a state of dehydration blush so no change there.

Tomorrow I plan to have avocado quesadillas for lunch and sea bass for dinner.

sprucedup Mon 28-Jan-13 13:56:41

Eating phlegmy WW soup right now. Picturing my bum NOT looking like a bag frozen peas in chiffony dress. Spicy salmon noodles tonight, plan to make them just too spicy for me so DPs happy and I don't go mad.
erebus about the sausages, it's about feeling good about what you eat next time not bad about what you ate last time... yeehah whoop whoop!!!! Very un-British moment there sorry, not used to being openly positive.

Erebus Mon 28-Jan-13 20:58:49

Ew to phlegmy soup! How disappointing!

I had soup for lunch, too, just ordinary chunky potato and leek (180cals) in a microwaveable pot and a slice of rye bread (45 cals), then an apple (65 cals?).

I know what you mean about 'feeling bad'- I guess I'd feel worse if a) I'd scoffed the lot without thinking- at least I gave away one sausage to DS, and left 1/2 the mash! and b) if it really had seriously blown me out of the water, calorie wise! It was 'heavy going' I'd say, and I know I can now make such food more healthily (fat free frying, leek-padded mash, more veg for instance) at home- which is great cos it means I can eat 'normal food' now which to me is important in not thinking 'right now I am Mrs Dieting and when I reach my target weight, I will be 'Mrs Old-Way-Of-Eating again''.

I see eating at mother's as a part of my '20% of eating not so well in a week. That and my pinot habit!

Erebus Tue 29-Jan-13 14:11:23

I am hoping AF is responsible for the 1lb weight gain my scales registered this morning shock ! Really wasn't going to weigh but somehow- did!

TBH & TMI- I am 50 and perimenopausal so I don't know what sort of ride I'm going to get each month! I'd hoped this one had 'done its dash' but it renewed its vigour, if you get my drift, last night. I'm on one notch wider on my jeans belt, too which strongly implies water retention not a 1lb weight gain, as such.

So I am not panicking or despairing. Luckily it's still 3 whole days to weigh in, time for that fluid to dissipate.

How's everyone else doing?

tripletipple Tue 29-Jan-13 15:13:22

erebus thanks for your long reply on the other thread, food for thought, ha ha, no pun intended.

I have to go out right now but will be back later

Erebus Tue 29-Jan-13 15:16:46

You're welcome!

sprucedup Tue 29-Jan-13 20:35:04

Dreadful day today - two cappuccinos, three Fab lollies, 2 school bars, a ginger biscuit, and a mountain of bread and hummus. Pizza crusts from DSDs dinner and baby biscuits and bits of yoghurt form DS. Not one healthy mouthful unless you count the cucumber on the full fat hummus and all eaten at a million miles an hour. It was all i could do not to run to the shop and by a multipack of doubledeckers and shove them all in my mouth in one go. God knows what came over me. I'm even hungry now.

But I had an amazing sandpaper/laser-stabbing facial this evening and have 80% less wrinkles and the skin i had five years ago. This has made me feel so much better about frankly everything in the world that I'm contemplating a run. (This isn't as weird as it sounds, I am a runner and often go at nine at night.)

Oh the spicy thing backfired, it was like lava and neither of us could eat so we had tears and cereal for tea. But tomorrow is another day.

erebus maybe drink buckets of water, i'm told it has the opposite effect? But not sure.

mamaus Tue 29-Jan-13 21:08:26

Here to confess to a "setback" this evening, dominos pizza, 2 for Tuesday, Dh suggested and I was weak!
Having said that, I tried to keep the eating slowly and consciously concept in mind, and stopped after 2 slices. So, not as terrible as it could have been. Unlike days of old, I am not going to say to myself, oh well already had pizza, may as well have cake. (Sure, there is absolutely no cake , biscuits or malt loaf smile in the house, but still!)

Also, think I may need to invest in a better scale. We only have a cheap mechanical one, 5 year old argos number I believe. The type of scale that you can lose a pound or 2 by leaning a certain way--I have only been cheating myself!!

I know exactly what you mean about not wanting to advertise being a diet. I really don't want a bunch of unsolicited advice or judgement. I also don't want to be one of those people who is constantly announcing what they are eating or not eating, and letting it become all that they talk about--I will save that for here!

I also look forward to being strong enough to mock oaty biscuit and fudge bars (that made me lol) and I hope to one day encounter a brownie and think, "meh, no thanks". But until then, I will just keep them out of the house, my dh is not a fan of this plan!

Erebus Tue 29-Jan-13 21:12:55

spruced- with the Fab lollies, was it one after the other? Did you finish one then reach for the next? Or did you eat them one at a time with big gaps in between?

But you didn't run to the shop and buy the double deckers. What stopped you?

Any idea what you think 'came over you?' Seriously?

My big fat fail (there should be a MN acronym, BBF!) was 3 x 175ml glasses of pinot tonight.

What am I thinking? The rectitude of a Presbyterian minister all day then, wham. You could probably hear me glugging wine! Possibly a billion calories? 450 actually. Was doing well til then, poss about 1100 cals all up!

<stands in corner>

Erebus Tue 29-Jan-13 21:17:58

mamaus stopping at 2 slices of Dominos is actually indeed a triumph to be celebrated! Well done. It's 'real' food but you stopped and recognised it wasn't a green light to gorge. I am genuinely impressed.

As for the scales, if it's not a burden on the budget, get new, whizzy, digital ones and put them on the same bit of solid flooring for each weigh-in. When individual pounds count, you wanna know!

And yes, this is the forum to let it all hang out re your triumphs and (ahem) 'fails' <thinks 3 glasses of bloody wine, fgs!>

mamaus Tue 29-Jan-13 21:34:14

Thanks Erebus it is a small victory, but I will take it!

I am learning about all kinds of foods to avoid, I just asked Dh, what are fab lollies and double deckers? He assured me that they are both amazing smile I am going to add them to my avoid list. I think dh may get both for his lunch tomorrow, he getting nostalgic now!

Don't beat yourself up too much about the wine, easily done and tomorrow's a new day.

mamaus Tue 29-Jan-13 21:38:49

And yes, good advice on the new digital scale. Time to commit I think,
only 12 weeks till bridesmaid dress, eek! Off to do some arm toning.....

sprucedup Tue 29-Jan-13 22:00:25

mamaus stopping at two slices is brilliant. That's how it should be in food heaven, enjoy it then stop at hte right point. I'm really impressed too, that shall be my inspiration tomorrow.

erebus why did i go mental today? I didn't run, i just went and ate cereal too. Period due? Wont say that out loud, but could be the culprit. Also, tried to be too frugal in the morning, felt crashy from hunger and went bananas, then thought i've runined it now so sod it. The fabs were two in a row in the afternoon, then innocently having one with DP and DSD after thier dinners. Skipped real dinner to compensate for afternoon freakout. I think what i should take from this is eat little and often and well and don't get too hungry. Also, in retrospect, talked about some really really sad bereavement issues of friends, and felt a bit bleak after. Genuinely thought schools bars would cheer me up. They didn't, they don't even taste nice. Box fit tomrrow night and its a new day. Mums coming, so I shall pick listlessly at food as if thats what i really want! She always brings a bucket of pinot, i haven't been drinking because DPs on meds so he can't at the mo so i joined. Focus on not having a hangover on thursday perhaps.

1100 calories would be a good day for me I have to say, so you must have been really good otherwise. Mamaus is our postergirl for good eating tomorrow, if I'd done that I would be skipping about mega pleased with myself. And we will tomorrow!

Erebus Wed 30-Jan-13 08:13:54

Yes, new day, new commitment!

I was doing so well til I went nuts with the wine! I did beat myself a up a bit about it- I mean, fgs. Careful mindful eating all day (which as we all know is quite hard work!) then undoing it all in the space of the evening!

Hopefully lesson absorbed.

Onwards and upwards (or downwards, actually! grin )

sprucedup Wed 30-Jan-13 08:57:23

Today's strategy is to goto the organic greengrocers of poshness and buy fruit, and picture myself in skinny jeans looking at spag bol and saying "I'm a bit full, I don't really fancy it," and languidly picking at a salad as if it was too much to bear.

mamaus Wed 30-Jan-13 22:11:13

Sprucedup, your strategies make me laugh, hope it went well!
Erebus, onwards and downwards indeed! smile

I received my copy of "I Can Make You Thin" today, suppose I will have to read and not just sit next to it and dink around the Internet...

Today's tiny victory, did not order anything fun for tomorrow's online shop, had biscuits in the basket, and took them out--baby steps!

Never been a poster girl for healthy eating before, hopefully I can keep it up.

Wanted to ask you spruced , I used to be a runner in my teens, and have really wanted to try couch to 5k, my only time to do it would be after dark though (here come the excuses!) I live in a relatively safe area, but think I would be paranoid running in the dark, should I just get a high viz jacket and get over it?

Erebus Wed 30-Jan-13 22:27:04

Am a bit meh having just watched 'The truth about exercise' - Panorama? By Michael Moseley (again!) and he discovered he is an exercise 'non responder' (it's genetic!) thus hours pounding an exercise bike wasn't going to improve his aerobic capacity, tho it did improve his insulin performance considerably. I believe myself to be the same. Over decades I have spent hours at gyms, running & pumping but it actually made all but no difference to my stamina, appearance or sense of well-being! I am glad to have some sort of explanation, actually!

I shall continue doing my 3 to 4 sessions of power walking for 30 mins each week, tho. It's been shown that exercise does improve one's ability to burn calories. I'd get myself actually genetically tested but I know it'd cost £.

Different topic and sorry, maybe TMI... Since I've been mindful about my food intake, tho eating fruit and oats for most breakfasts, salad or soup for lunch and veg laden dinners... I haven't -ahem- Number 2'ed for a week! That's not good, really, is it? I was never 'daily' but a week?!

mamaus Wed 30-Jan-13 23:08:35

Interesting about exercise "non responders" that must be very frustrating.
I am really lucky, I suppose, that in the past when I have made an effort, exercise can make a really drastic improvement on my appearance and mood. Huh, so why I am not exercising now... Must change that!

About the tmi, are you uncomfortable? Maybe your body is using all of the healthy goodness? (Clearly, I am no doctor!)
Hope everything, um, works out for you tomorrow smile

sprucedup Thu 31-Jan-13 14:29:38

erebus, i have the same tmi issue every time i do this! I have a vague theory it's because your body slows down across the board at first in recognition of the sudden change in apparent food availability. Water is my cure - well squash becuase water is so boring and in our area tap water tastes like dirty pool water. Still doesn't work that well. Annoying about the excersize, i find running regularly can tip me into a virtuous cycle of healthiness. Could you not maximise on the smug factor? I find that goes a lot way for me!

sprucedup Thu 31-Jan-13 14:33:30

mamaus you know how it is the excersze, the first week back is crap and then it gets fun again. Went running yesterday - nearly got blown over in the gale but it was great. I'm playing netball tonight, with a group of mums going back to it after many years. It's so much fun that even if it doesn't make a difference its worht it for hte feelgood. Get back to it! You know it'll be worth it!

Mum came yesterday, bearing homemade parma ham and mozzarella bread, oh it was good, but I had just a couple of reasonable sized bits, literally thinking of you and the pizzas. Fell down on the risotto she made after that, but not too badly. Then DP produced a huge chocolate cigar, and i had quite a lot of that. But importantly no unhinged face stuffing. I think i did well under the circumstances. And mum said i look like i've lost weight and took DS while i went running, so she is totally forgiven!

Erebus Thu 31-Jan-13 20:48:05

You'll all be delighted to her my TMI ishoo has 'resolved itself'- ahem. grin. Not particularly spectacularly but nonetheless, 'not an issue' any more right now!

I must now stand at the high altar and confess a transgression- an illegal weigh-in this morning. Soz! I was pleased to note a small downward trend- but the biggie is whether tomorrow morning I am still 'there' or not. So I shan't reveal til weigh-in day, where either it will be a triumph of slow and steady loss or the ups and down of stabilising, when I should be losing!

I did MPC 'trance' on my ipod last night which I rather enjoyed. The main 'problem' I have with it is the word 'slim'. Which is ridiculous but cultural, against the backdrop of my venerable age (50). Slimming, as a word is always to me redolent of 'Slimcea' bread ('70s?). I don't know what I'd rather hear him say, though. 'Picture the new, slimmer you'- what, then? Not 'fitter' because that's now become loaded. To lose weight doesn't necessarily imply 'fitter' in the traditional sense, or necessarily in the new yoof usage, does it? And I don't know how positively any of us might react to 'Oi, you, yer heffer, wanna be less of a bloater?' even though set against twinkly music. Can't see it. grin.

So what is the sound-bite word that means 'the correct weight for your height'?

mamaus - excellent that exercise works for you. You gotta get 'out there' and make it work its majik for you! You know it makes sense!

spruced- I guess 'habit' now keeps me pounding the treadmill. I recognise I am fortunate in that I have a decent quality electric treadmill set up in our second sitting room facing a WAG'esque sized HD telly (you can take a DH out of Australia but you can't take the HD telly away from the DH- or something..) on which I find myself very fast walking to 'Africa' or 'What the South of France did for Art' stylee shows (Richard E Grant can inspire me any time he wants) without counting time or steps. Well done re the food your mum brought. It was 'proper' food but you ate in a controlled manner. Tonight was Asda curry night (with my mum who brings her own raft of stuff associated with weight loss/diets/ 'eat like I do, darling, and you will be as svelte as me at 80' (but smoke 40 a day for 60 years to keep your weight down).. BUT I left the table feeling I'd had 'sufficient' but not excess- though I have drunk 2 large gasses of pinot blush

So, please all join me tomorrow for weigh-in?!

Erebus Thu 31-Jan-13 20:49:25

I didn't do MPC I did PMc.

MPC could be a tarmac laying company for all I know!

sprucedup Fri 01-Feb-13 00:08:20

I'll be there tomorrow morning,.after coffee to sort tmi ishoo but before breakfast! I don't have high hope for the two lb tho.

Oh mamaus iforgot - i run at night in hi - vis bib, on main roads as much as poss and try to conceal headphones. The only time i had any trouble was broad daylight on a main road when s man reached out and grabbed my tit as i ran past, i was so surprised i ran on for a few seconds and when i turned back he'd vanished! i give everyone a wide berth these days.

sprucedup Fri 01-Feb-13 08:43:34

Week 2
That's 2.2lb off. [Emoticons not working on android but I am grinning]
I genuinely though I'd have gained, I've spent weeks making no progress and suddenly this. So it looks like you guys are making the difference. Thank you, thank you. Wedding dress and future life of food calm is in reach.

Good luck today both of you

Erebus Fri 01-Feb-13 10:01:06

spruced -fantastic news, what a boost! I like 'food calm'- I get exactly what you mean!

My news is good, too.

Week 4:
11st 13lbs
BMI 27.3
weight loss this week 2lb
total loss 9lbs in 4 weeks.

I too was rather surprised, having lost a measly lb last week (despite having been 'trying') but I think a combo of AF and the TMI issue didn't help!

Now have to negotiate my way through 2 socials- a leaving do tonight, but I may not eat at the pub- a wine and a diet coke, perhaps; and a meal out next Tuesday but again, I can have soup and salad if the menu's a bit 'heavy'.

I must say, though, I would love to get to the PMc endorsed stage of not thinking about dieting and food for large slabs of my day, just reacting to hunger signals!

tripletipple Fri 01-Feb-13 13:22:23

Hi erebus (and others)
I said I would be back later, I just didn't say how much later grin
I have decided to join you for the Friday weigh in. I will apologise in advance for sporadic posting, as I know I am guilty of this, as I get "lost" in RL sometimes, but I am still here!

Anyway, 1st February seemed like a good day for Day 1. Unfortunately I woke up with both AF and a cold and felt more like crawling under the duvet with a packet of biscuits than embarking on a diet. However, have resisted so far!

So, weighing in at 12st 5lb. BMI is 29.7

Congratulations on your weight loss so far. Keep going, it will be so worth it!

Erebus Fri 01-Feb-13 14:51:07

Hi triple, welcome back.

I'd agree entirely that you need to be 'in the mindset' to start a diet. Hope you feel better soon!

I see that your BMI is where I was at my heaviest, which was 13 stone, 2 years ago. Somehow and unconsciously, my weight did fall from there to stabilise at 12st 8 or 9 for ages, which is where I was when I started this WOE on Jan 4th.

What's your goal weight? And time frame?

Look forward to hearing from you!

sprucedup Fri 01-Feb-13 16:33:12

Excellent news erebus, clearly we're doing better than we though. 9lbs in four weeks is fantastic! If i could do that I'd need to get the Dress taken in again - I'm redoubling my efforts now.

I've got friends for diner tomorrow, doing salmon baked and some tarted up veg, plus a sort of mascarpone custard rhubarb tart thing. I will make it big enough to serve three and a half people and spend the entire day picturing myself not finishing it.

Hello triple welcome on board. Biscuits do seem better when you're poorly i agree, but consider that they wont taste so good with a blocked nose so you could just wait for when you can enjoy them? Logical...

mamaus Fri 01-Feb-13 21:08:12

Hi ladies, quick check in from me so I don't miss the Friday deadline!
Week 2: 11stone 11, so down 3 pounds! Yay!
Thanks to your motivation, I also broke out my 30 day shred DVD last night, and yes, I felt great for it today!
Going to force myself to go and do the shred again right now, when all I really want to do is drink a gallon of wine...my 2 year old is having some serious bedtime regression out of nowhere. But, want to see the scales go down again next Friday, so I will pass the fridge and go for the weights, pretty exciting Friday night here! smile
Will be back in a bit, well done all!!

tripletipple Fri 01-Feb-13 21:35:13

Hi all, done not too badly on my first day all things considered, although I did have a bit of a run-in with a bagel and raspberry jam earlier. I'm going to have a hot bath now and then straight to bed so no need to visit the kitchen again tonight. Haven't drunk any wine either, woohoo!

I didn't have any particular goal weight but as the thread title is Want to Lose 2 Stone that seems as good as any ie. 10st 5lb. which would take me just inside normal weight range for BMI. Time scale? ASAP! By the summer would be good realistically.

Now, the weekend to tackle.....

sprucedup Fri 01-Feb-13 22:08:14

mamaus that's great! 3lbs! And shred too - have you been on the Jillian Michaels thread? I was just there. Well, I think we should all feel very pleased with ourselves. 7lbs between us

I'm hoping this is the start of the viruous cycle that goes eat calmly, exercise, lose weight, feel positive, eat calmly etc untl it all just becomes the default setting. I just ran 6.5k off the back of this mornings success so maybe here it is!

triple, good luck with the weekend - i think we've all got potential danger situations coming up actually, but lots of thinking positive and taking our time over food should keep things on track. Here's to a good week everyone, not too many sneaky weigh ins (I did two i have to confess, both came up as no loss)

Erebus Sat 02-Feb-13 13:34:11

Hi all- last night's 'do' went well- a couple of work mates leaving which is sad as they're both well liked and good at what they do. As predicted, I had a glass of wine- then (ahem) a small wine spritzer but I decided I wanted it so I had it. They were all tucking into gourmet burgers and chips or fry ups but I must say, having had my Hairy Dieters crumbed chicken and salad (and 2 dinky pitas) for dinner before I went, I didn't really crave any of it.

The one thing I haven't done was my 'run' which is my 3 or 4 times a week power walk on a treadmill. I walk 1.75 miles at a rate to double my heartbeat and make me sweat. Any faster and I'd be running- need a better bra for that grin. The reason is that I am a bit under the weather. I've had a sinus headache for days (not uncommon) and a scratchy throat since Weds. I will see how I'm feeling tonight.

Onwards and downwards!

mamaus Mon 04-Feb-13 14:09:11

Hi all, hope the rest of the weekend went well for everyone.
Erebus hope that you are feeling better now.
sprucedup I can't believe some random guy just grabbed you like that on a run?! What a weirdo. Actually, I can believe it, but just wonder what goes through people's heads sometimes. Haven't been on the shred thread, just quietly do my DVD after the kids are in bed. It's short enough that I can't make excuses for not having the time, but enough effort that I feel like it is making a difference toning wise. (Hopefully!)

I didn't realize that we were only supposed to weigh ourselves on Fridays. I had been checking throughout the week, but only reporting on Friday... I am going to try not to peek this week and just stay focused on the mindful eating, and keeping active.

"Food calm" sounds like a good place to be! Here's hoping we all get there this week,

mamaus Mon 04-Feb-13 14:10:29

Oh, and welcome tripletipple smile

Erebus Mon 04-Feb-13 20:14:55

Grr. Did my back today! It's a long standing 'weakness' of mine, on and off since I was 19, but I hadn't had an 'episode' for over a year. Thankfully, although initially I actually thought 'I have to go home from work!' (NHS front line...), it settled to just 'uncomfortable', so I am taking great care with it right now! So no 'run' tonight- and an upcoming wrecked night's sleep as I just woke up from an hour's Cocodamol inspired sleep after a very hot bath...

It's fine to weigh yourself every day, of course, mam as long as the odd up doesn't cause you to say 'sod it, this 'diet's' not working, I'm quitting- when the next day you might be 2 lbs down! I sneak in the odd 'weigh-in' myself, too, but I think Friday 'counts'.

Erebus Tue 05-Feb-13 12:09:45

Did a sneaky weigh-in this morning and am the same weight as last Friday which is 'OK' though, of course, would really have liked to have seen a pound less as I wanted to lose another 2lbs this week in total but having a cold and doing my back probably won't help much! BUT who knows? I may find 2 lbs on Friday! I am being as mindful as possible but other than fetching the car from its MOT 10 minutes walk away, I won't be doing much today as my back hurts!

mamaus Tue 05-Feb-13 20:58:39

Sorry to hear about your back Erebus hopefully it settles down soon. I am sure you will see a drop by Friday.
I have also had a sneaky peek today and it looks about the same for me too, so far... I still need to go and pick up a decent scale, but I am a cheapskate!
I am trying out a new visual motivator that my sister told me about. I now have 2 jars placed in my kitchen. One has a cotton wool ball for each pound that I would like to lose, and when I lose a pound, I move it over to the other jar. Does that make sense? So basically, I have one jar that is crammed with 25 cotton balls and one that has 3, so far...
Will let you know if this helps or just takes up counter space!
At first I was a bit disheartened, seeing how much cotton I need to move, but also I think it will prevent me from celebrating too early, if you know what I mean? I have certainly done that in the past, rather than building on a small success, celebrate and ruin my progress--but not this time!!
I also took 3 cans out of the cupboard and carried them around for a while, they equalled the 3 pounds lost last week, 3 pounds that I no longer have to carry around! Now just to get rid of their 25 friends... smile

tripletipple Tue 05-Feb-13 23:33:17

Hi all, thanks for the welcomes smile

Don't know if it was a cold I had or what, but felt pretty rough over the weekend and didn't really feel like eating much, which was good, but also have expended minimal energy having spent as much time as possible slouched in a chair. So we shall see....

mamaus I love that idea of your sister's, I will go cotton ball shopping tomorrow!

erebus sorry about the back. One of the reasons I want to lose weight is I've developed a bit of a back problem which I'm sure is aggrevated by my weight.

Can't believe Friday is nearly back round already, think I'm going to have to put more effort in if I'm going to see any result!

Erebus Wed 06-Feb-13 20:40:45

HI everyone!

Well, thankfully my back isn't quite as bad as I thought it was the second I did it (I have a loong history!) so I've been taking it easy, no lifting and no 'rapid walking' for a few days.

But I have a bee-atch of a cold! But unlike yours, triple, I haven't stopped eating..! My head is thumping and my stomach all sore and churny (I think the Cocodamol I took for my back has 'upset' it), and my ears feel like cotton wool sad. But not cotton wool balls!

But, funny old thing (depending on your sense of humour and TMI tolerance...), I came in last night from an evening out (where I wasn't terribly disciplined but was 'ok') and suddenly I felt the urge for No 2s- well, I exploded! Again, I assume the Cocodamol was responsible but I suspect that this episode may have been responsible for my apparent 'miracle' weight loss as I, again sneakily, checked this morning- 2lbs down in 1 day grin!

mamm I too have to be careful not to rest on my weight loss laurels, 'celebrating' a loss with being less careful. I do think physically holding the amount of weight you've lost in cans is a good idea, as is the cotton wool balls. I do have 26(lbs)/0, 23/3, 20/6 etc written on my calendar along with my weight and BMI on Fridays. And I -ahem- separated out 9lbs of butter on an Asda shelf the other day to really look at!

mamaus Thu 07-Feb-13 20:49:35

Hello ladies,
Must admit to being a bit nervous about tomorrow morning's weigh in. I have been reasonably disciplined, but I think I know it's going to take a bit more than that to see the results I would like in my time frame!

Hope everyone is feeling better, result on your 2 lbs drop though Erebus ! wink
I finally started reading my Paul McK book last night, and it turns out I haven't been eating as mindfully as I thought!! Today was day one of eating every single bite consciously, well trying to anyway.
Moment of truth, tomorrow.
Onwards and downwards smile

mamaus Thu 07-Feb-13 21:44:42

Forgot to say, good idea on the butter visual, hope to whittle off a few slabs!

Erebus Thu 07-Feb-13 22:13:35

Yes, I doubt I will see that 2lbs 'loss' tomorrow morning! It was, after all, largely No. 2s grin!

Am seething tonight. Am on-call for my HCP 'coal-face' job, which I do 1:6. I don't get called much but was tonight at 7pm, so in I drive, 7 miles, park up in the space I've parked in for every on-call or weekend call-in I had for the last 9 years, did the examination, came out 2 hours later- to find my car was now locked behind a builder's hoarding. And no one answered the 'emergency out of hours' mobile!

So the bloke from switch board had to drive me home at the end of his shift just now and DH has to drive me over tomorrow morning at 8 to retrieve my car (my day off) so I can go to the opticians for a retest because they got my script wrong (£70 worth of glasses later...).

Nuff to make a woman resort to cream doughnuts!

sprucedup Thu 07-Feb-13 22:20:48

erebus don't do it!! I just ate an entire bar of green n blacks so I can remind you that it will make you feel stuffed sicky, and annoyed with yourself

mamaus Thu 07-Feb-13 22:22:30

Step away from the donuts!!!!!
You will be proud of yourself in the morning. That is a crap day though,
maybe a non-food based treat in the morning after picking up your car? (Lame, I know!)
Good luck tomorrow smile

sprucedup Thu 07-Feb-13 22:27:04

Bastards with the car though, that would have had me frothing at the mouth. That kind of crap takes up so much of life and you cant get it back. I think it's that kind of time when all you an do is make up new expletives.

sprucedup Thu 07-Feb-13 22:31:39

Hello mamaus we, 're cross posting. Non food based treat good idea. Perhaps go to topshop with a tween and roll about laughing at the 90s clothes in there?

sprucedup Thu 07-Feb-13 22:36:23

I just did Nell "blerted" McAndrews DVD to make up for choc but it won't have cancelled it. erebus dognuts are just not worth it, think of all the treadmill hours you won't have to do and how you won't feel vommy later

mamaus Thu 07-Feb-13 22:48:51

Hi spruced , Trying to think of a new expletive and got nothing.

dog nuts is good, certainly makes them sound less appealing!

Erebus Fri 08-Feb-13 09:09:08

Thanks all! I feel better knowing everyone else agrees it's a 'right rum do' (read: The F word plus others!) regarding my car which I've just retrieved.

Thankfully, I got back home late enough to not eat, I just had a nice cup of tea (thanks, DH) and I wasn't called in again.

Anyway WEIGH-IN!

In other news, erebus has managed to keep the 2lbs off that she was attributing to an explosive No. 2 on Tuesday night!

Week 5:
11st 11lbs
BMI 27.0
weight loss this week 2lb
total loss 11lbs in 5 weeks.

No exercise as such this week as my lungs are full of mucus and my back is still very delicate!

Now off to do battle with the optician's.

mamaus Fri 08-Feb-13 15:15:09

Quick check in from me:
Week 2: 2lbs lost, yay!
11 stone, 9 lbs
2 weeks in and 5 lbs lost, feeling very happy with that!

Challenging weekend ahead, visiting my in laws, my MIL is a bit of a pudding pusher, and very thin!
I really don't want to discuss being "on a diet" with anyone there, luckily my 2 kids provide plenty of distraction.

Well done Erebus !! And thanks for the thread, I really think the accountability is making a difference for me.

tripletipple Fri 08-Feb-13 17:25:23

I haven't forgotten weigh-in, I've had no electricity all day so couldn't get online. I can get connected, supposedly, with my ipad on 3G thingy, but it is so slow it makes me want to cry. Actually, I suspect there is something wrong with it/I am doing something wrong, but I don't know what.

Anyway, 1.5lb loss, not great (for a first week) but still good considering I've been ill and DS has been ill and had to keep him at home and things have been a bit topsy turvy.

So currently 12st 3.5lb and optimistic for next week although I have already cracked open the wine tonight and it is not even 6pm yet wine

Doughnuts are one thing I find easy to resist, not my favourite thing, but if anyone ever blocks my car in like that I may well eat a bagful grin

Erebus Fri 08-Feb-13 18:14:39

triple- 1.5lbs in one week, especially a difficult week, even if it is 'the first' is perfectly respectable. Your body has been burning your fat, not storing any excess you've put into it so you've succeeded! It's always really hard to stay 'on track' when your routine is out of kilter. And no electric all day shock! Not good.

I, too, will be having a swift glass of the noble grape any minute grin.

And well done mamaus for your weight loss. I am actually very heartened to see we're losing 1 to 2lbs a week. I always groan when you see other OPs where people have apparently lost like 8lbs in the first week. I will always celebrate any weight loss but I do worry that they're setting themselves up for inevitable failure. I believe that if your weight takes years to put on, it'll take at least months to take off, especially in a way that your body doesn't really 'notice'! I also believe that massive losses like like, done on the back of 'out there' eating regimes really don't go any way towards re-educating the 'habits' that put that weight on in the first place! They're doomed! Doomed, I tell you!

My MIL was a food pusher. Used to drive me NUTS. She'd carefully serve out more or less equal portions, then, upon sitting down, silently but purposefully redistribute half of her food onto everyone else's plate. What she was saying was 'Look how I sacrifice for all of you'. I'd as forcefully as politeness bears say 'No' but from time to time, DH would have to intervene and say 'Erebus has already said no 3 times mum. She doesn't want it'- cue a bit of a sulk, mind! And my own mother tends to grill my DSs as to what's 'wrong' with food they don't want on their plate but I swiftly interject (if I feel they have actually eaten enough of the 'good stuff') and say 'They've had enough, I don't require them to finish all the food on their plates'...

And if anyone blocks me in again, I will lob fortnight-old weighted cream doughnuts at them!

sprucedup Sun 10-Feb-13 00:30:51

Also having g tech probs- using Android and it's jumpy on MN to say the least. Anyway, no change this week. Hmmmmph. Better week coming though. Went to run club this morning, ate well today so onward and downward. By the way "Arse Biscuits" always cheers me up. Got it from DP, but suspect he didn't invent it

Erebus Sun 10-Feb-13 09:56:46

spruced I wonder if your 'lack of weight loss' is actually muscle gain? I bet your dimensions have reduced if not your actual weight!

Made an obvious 'discovery' today- that if you can't taste food (heavy cold continues...) you completely miss full signals.

Will have to be a bit wary this week as I spent all of yesterday under a blanket on the couch, but I think I ate the same as normal. It also 'worries' me a bit that I wonder if, once I stop actual 'weight loss', if I eat a few calories more per day (ie what should be 'maintenance'), the weight will just pile back on. I guess a problem is that I'm supposed to not be thinking about food much of the time, only when I register 'hunger' but I am thinking about it! Not in a craving way, I should add, but I am constantly thinking about 'being on a diet'..

catgirl1976 Sun 10-Feb-13 11:19:18


Can I join (I know I'm a bit late)

I'm 5ft 6 and on Friday I weighed 12st 6. I also want to get to 10 st 7 (would love 10 stone but I think it's too far away)

I'm doing low carb and feeling a bit disheartened today so a thread like this is just what I need

Hi, I need to lose more than two stone but wanted to just say hi as Erebus invited me to pop in. I am someone who has struggled with food for a long time, had a bit of a big break through after some prayer ministry last year and now just need to eat sensibly until I am normal size!

Just looking for encouragement.

Thanks. And best wishes to all.

mamaus Sun 10-Feb-13 21:56:04

Hello everyone. Welcome catgirl and Italiangreyhound !

Not too shabby this weekend, although after successfully avoiding the pudding pushing I did congratulate myself with a bit too much wine last night. The difference, I hope, from previous attempts is that today I didn't say oh well screw it and have a giant breakfast. And back on the shred tonight, so onwards and downwards and all that smile

I know what you mean Erebus about worrying about the maintenance side of things. I need to finish reading my Paul McK book, but at the beginning he goes on about reaching a point where you don't really think about food. I do most to all of the cooking in our house so i am constantly thinking about food, I have to! From meal planning, to ensuring there are healthy snacks available etc.
I guess it is more about changing my entire attitude, so I suppose that is why I think slow and steady on the weight loss will truly win the race. I have always struggled with moderation, but I am working on it smile

Hope everyone is feeling better and good luck to us all this week.

Erebus Mon 11-Feb-13 12:38:29

Am struggling a bit with being more or less bed-bound, unable to taste much but trying to eat 'mindfully'. I am eating much the same as I have been over the past 5 weeks but of course, with no exercise I need to be eating less, don't I? sad

I am feeling weird with my normal routine blown out of the water, off sick from work, unable to sleep at night, lying in til about half an hour ago, getting up to an immediate shocking headache and being able to read or look at a VDU for 10 minutes before the nausea kicks in.

I need shooting. But somehow I'm still managing to eat!

Still, it's snowing prettily outside though not settling.

Welcome to Catgirl and Itailangreyhound!

mamaus Mon 11-Feb-13 22:16:41

Sounds like a nightmare Erebus. I wouldn't worry too much about not exercising until you feel better. Hope that you feel better soon!

Went for a run tonight, very cold!

mamaus Tue 12-Feb-13 14:03:08

Well done for going running Italiangreyhound. I keep toying with the idea of running or starting couch to 5k or something, but have yet to actually do anything about it! Still doing my shred DVD though, so that is something I guess.
I told my dh that the hardest part of shred for me is pressing start on the DVD, once I get started its fine, goes quickly and I feel better for it. Maybe it would be the same with running and I just need to get some shoes on and get out there...
Anyway hope everyone is doing well today, and you are feeling better erebus
I haven't been very disciplined with food so far this week, need to turn it around I think if I want to see a difference by Friday. Hmmm, maybe should rethink the pancake plan for tonight!

Erebus Thu 14-Feb-13 11:47:13


Home from work again today! I went in on Tues and Weds but was aware at 5pm on both days that it really had been a mistake so this morning, when I awoke after another rubbish night's sleep unable to breath properly, coughing like a fool and feeling distinctly nauseous, I decided tot to inflict myself on work today. So I went back to bed til 11!

Right royal fed up with this, I am! I had the first inkling of unwellness, that soapy feeling at the back of my nose 15 days ago, now! And I feel it's playing havoc with my weight loss plans at it's easy to over eat when you can't taste anything! (despite the bouts of nausea, I'm still eating confused) and I can't exercise as walking up the stairs leaves me gasping.

However, I steeled myself and got on the scales this morning and it appears I have lost 1lb from last week, so hopefully I'll still have kept that off for tomorrow's weigh in. It'd be too, too depressing otherwise!

Hope everyone else is on track!.

mamaus Fri 15-Feb-13 09:02:57

Weigh in:
Week 3, 2lb loss!!
11 stone 7lbs
Down 7 lbs in 3 weeks and feeling very happy with that.

Going to look at 7 lbs butter in the store today, and celebrate the fact it's no longer around my middle! smile

I bet you are getting fed up of being sick Erebus hope you feel better soon, and hope the scales continue to move in the right direction for you.

Good luck everyone, onwards and downwards!

Erebus Fri 15-Feb-13 10:47:58

Nah, no weight loss this weeks at all sad

Week 6:
11st 11lbs
BMI 27.0
weight loss this week 0lb
total loss 11lbs in 6 weeks.

Goes to show what the twin evils of no exercise and not being able to taste food tend to do! Am a bit disheartened but another week, keeping it up! At least I woke up this morning without the overwhelming urge to go back to bed for the morning which is good, I guess. Whole family home today, inset and DH using A/L

Excellent news for you mamaus, really pleased for you! Keep it up!

tripletipple Fri 15-Feb-13 11:36:54

Ladies, I am going to bow out of Friday weigh in. I have been reading Gillian Riley and <<trumpet sound>> I have binned the scales. Well, not quite, I have taken the battery out and put them away.

So wishing you all success in what you are trying to achieve, hope you get where you want to be smile

Erebus Fri 15-Feb-13 19:22:18

Triple- I salute you. I don't have the courage to do so, tbh! I recognise that the 'window' between weight loss and, at best, stasis, but more likely, gain, is so tiny for me I need the visuals of seeing actual loss! My belt hole has vacillated between 3 and 4 all the time over the past 6 weeks when I've lost 11lbs! It was on a wider setting this morning, I note!

I try and weigh only once a week (Friday morning) but I'm not always that disciplined. And a couple of years ago, I did Gillian. I think it's a potentially good method but it didn't work for me because I thought I was doing quite well til one day 4 weeks in, I weighed in.... and I wasn't. But that's not to say it won't work for you! The basics of her 'method' can't be faulted.

Are you going to come back on here and let us know how you're going?

Erebus Fri 15-Feb-13 19:23:53

Sorry, posted too soon- I also meant to say that PMc doesn't 'recommend' weighing in, either- but I still do!

mamaus Fri 15-Feb-13 21:28:05

Thank you Erebus and congrats to you too, I think after the week you have had, maintaining and not gaining is a win! Plus, your average is still basically 2lbs a week, so well done. smile

Triple I wish you the best of luck, everyone is different and we all need to find whatever method works best for us. I am the same as Erebus, in needing to see the results--up or down. Definitely check back and let us know how you do! I will have to google Gillian Riley.

Hope everyone has a good weekend.

tripletipple Sat 16-Feb-13 22:17:00

Don't get me wrong, I fully appreciate the bitter/sweet experience of weighing in, I have been regularly jumping on and off the scales for 38 years. My current set of scales were a birthday present to me a few years back - it's what I asked for. How ridiculous is that?

I'm not "doing" Gillian Riley. I've only read the first couple of chapters. I just don't need to go on another diet. I need to get off the roundabout.

But of course, everyone is different, and I still wish all of you all the best smile

Erebus Sun 17-Feb-13 09:39:57

I am trying to recall Gillian now- I might be thinking of a different concept as I thought GR was like PMc as in it isn't a diet, it's a different approach to food? What am I thinking about, then? Is is Rosemary Conneley (sp.)?

Am rootling around my memory now- maybe I'll need to rootle around the bookshelves in the loft to see what book it was I'm thinking of!

mamaus Fri 22-Feb-13 09:26:22

Feeling a bit disheartened today. I was feeling relatively confident all week. I have been continuing to do the shred every night, noticing a bit less jiggle and feeling happy about that. My clothes are starting to feel a bit looser and hang a bit better. I still have a way to go, but was honestly starting to feel like I am on the right path.
So, I finally went and got a set of digital scales--they were on sale, sure we will have them a long time, thought it would be good to know more accurately etc. and they have me at 4lbs heavier than my old scales from last week sad
My old scales have me at the exact same as last week: 11 stone 7
I was feeling really positive before and I know that it shouldn't matter what the scales say if clothes are fitting better etc, but that has really got to me this morning.

My brother's wedding is fast approaching, my main motivator for getting started. But now, thinking about it my new motivator needs to be life long health, big picture and all that. Something in the Paul McK book has really stuck with me. He said to imagine yourself in the future, for myself I am thinking 20 years. Either I can stick with healthy eating exercise etc and make a change, or not. If not, I will continue to gain a few pounds every year, more than likely around my middle, and develop all of the associated health problems that go with that. For me, I don't even have to work very hard to imagine the outcome of choosing the unhealthy path. My aunts and uncles are concrete examples of what my future will hold if I don't make these changes. As much as I love them, that is not how I want to live and more vainly, not how I want to look. (Sounds terrible, but its true for me)

So my blow this morning with the new scales will not sway me from the big goal, which started as not embarrassing myself in a bridesmaid dress, but has now changed to overall health and well being, for myself and for my children.

I think I may try seriously reducing my carbs this week. I realize that I eat far too much bread for what I would like to achieve.

Since writing this out I have weighed myself several more times on the new scales--the weight has varied by 8lbs?!! Maybe they were on sale for a reason....
So, after my long ramble, I will stick to the weight from my old scales:
Weigh in
Week 4
11 stone 7
0lbs lost
7 lbs lost in 4 weeks

Time to get serious, onwards and downwards!!

Good luck everyone smile

Tansie Fri 22-Feb-13 14:56:26

So sorry to hear of your feelings of 'setback' mamaus. It's really depressing isn't it? Even if you know it can't be true!

Try really hard to focus on how you're feeling which sounds good- less jiggly; more controlled; looser clothes. Try and look at those bloody numbers on the scale as 'whaevs'. It certainly sounds to me like they're duff- do you put them on exactly she same spot on a hard floor every time you weigh? Stick to your old ones, return the new ones, or replace them with slightly better quality ones, but be assured the duff ones are lying!

Anyway, completely predictably, no loss again for me this week! I'm not surprised as I am still ill!! Still coughing up white frothy stuff and snorting green gunge. 3 WEEKS of it! And hope you weren't eating when I wrote that grin. I am just hoping I can do a gentle treadmill walk this evening for the 1st time in 3 weeks, that I'm not too breathless. Sick to death of it AND noting that when I can't taste food or smell it, It's very hard to spot satiety.

The truth is I am 1lb more than last week but I am not too down about it as a sneaky weigh-in yesterday had me at 11/11 so it's not a 'solid' pound, iyswim.

Week 7:
11st 12lbs
BMI not checked yet
weight gain this week 1lb
total loss 10lbs in 7 weeks.

mamaus Fri 22-Feb-13 22:59:01

Really appreciate your supportive words. I have boxed up the new scales ready to return in the morning. I did have a wobble with some flapjack today, but not too bad, and did my DVD again even though I really didn't feel like it.

3 weeks is a long time to be so ill, you must be very fed up by now. I suppose this cold weather is no help. I know what you mean about eating when you are sick, and of course salad just doesn't sound appealing! I always go for toast.
Hope that you got your treadmill walk this evening, have a good weekend and get well soon!
thanks thank you again for the support and the thread!

Tansie Sat 23-Feb-13 20:46:26

Hiya- I didn't 'treadmill' but DH and I went for a bracing walk for an hour. No getting out of breath, but enough to make me feel I'd done some exercise! I have also not been particularly 'mindful' with my eating today- not really bad but I ate probably half a dozen of DS2's Skittles, a thin dark choc after dinner mint and poured the garlic butter the oven cooked salmon fillet was cooked in over the fish on my plate...! Oh, and, my own 'flapjack' moment, really a bag of crisps! oops! But they were 48 cals- no brilliant but could have been worse!

Am fed right up with being less than well (as opposed to actively 'ill'). I am deffo on the mend but 3 weeks and 4 days since my first 'cold' symptom is pushing my patience.

Thanks for your sympathy!

Tansie Tue 26-Feb-13 12:24:00

JUST realised I've name changed and didn't tell you! Sorry! MN just wouldn't accept 'erebus' as my login- I will try again later as I'd forgotten about it! grin

Well, I'm still not back on the treadmill, but I have half a trailer load of logs to move into the logstore which I'm putting off as it's cold and drizzling out there.. and I just might go on the 'mill this evening.

However, I girded my loins this morning and, after a cup of tea and 5 or 6 chunks of fruit salad, I stood on the scales and am pleased to note 11/10 which is my lowest yet. I was 11/12 last Friday having gained a lb on the previous Friday shock. I did it because I know I have to draw a line in the sand under this 3 1/2 week illness bug and accept I may not be 'right' for at least another week (left with a dry cough which feels like it should be productive, iyswim) but I must try and not undo any more 'good work'!

Will check in again on Friday a.m., hopefully being erebus again!

mamaus Wed 27-Feb-13 22:42:36

Hi tansie I thought it might be you! Congratulation on your weigh in, that is fantastic!
I have to confess to having a pretty appalling weekend--friends over, lots of wine followed by bacon sandwiches the morning after, and then just general disregard for my new found mindful eating program. Too many flapjack moments smile
Came to my senses yesterday, back on the shred, the mindful eating and my fitness pal to keep me honest. Don't think I will have any sneak peeks at the scale until Friday morning--damage control until then!

You have inspired me, sick as you have been and snacking on fruit salad!! I will step away from the flapjack and get back on track!

Seems like its just the 2 of us now? "See" you Friday morning for weigh in, hope you are feeling better and the scales stay down smile

Tansie Thu 28-Feb-13 08:19:55

Hiya! yes, the 'lots of wine' and bacon buttie thing has happened to me a bit over the past few weeks, despite me being ill, fgs! grin.

I got back on the treadmill for the first time last night, too. A bit gentler than where I left off 3 1/2 weeks ago but at least I feel I'm back 'on it'!

The only derailing thing this week is AF- I think. I'm peri-menopausal so one month it'll barely touch me, the next I bloat, get mood swings, and flood- but I never know which one til it's here!

Let's keep up the good work! 'See' you tomorrow morning!

Tansie Fri 01-Mar-13 11:56:06

Week 8

11st 10lbs
BMI 26.89
weight loss this week 2lb
total loss 12lbs in 8 weeks.

Feel emotionally reinvigorated to stick at it! Though am feeling there's a looong way to go to 11 stone!

Without thinking, as I dressed, I pulled my (still size 18! grin) jeans belt in another notch this morning- I did release it one, then, thinking- almost there! I hate tight clothes (and am amused at the number of 25 ish year olds in my works changing room in their size 10 jeans but with rather silly muffin-tops ahoy!)

I am glad to see my weight loss has kept at the average (albeit a bit all over the shop these last 2 weeks!) I was hoping for, i.e. 2lbs a week but I am also aware it's harder as you lose more!

mamaus - did you get new scales?

mamaus Fri 01-Mar-13 22:32:36

Weigh in.....

Week 5
1 lb lost
11 stone 6
8 lbs lost in 5 weeks

After all of my indiscretions last week, I am actually really pleased with that!! Not thrilled with the grand total, but I really did expect a gain this week--so down one pound is amazing!

I have returned the new digital scales and am sticking with my old faithful smile I think that to get the really accurate digital scales I would have to spend way more than I was going to.

Erebus wow!!! Congratulations! I am going to try and channel your emotional rejuvenation to stick at it! smile

I know what you mean about the muffin top, I carry most of my weight around the middle, especially after having 2 babies within 13 months!! Very aware of the health risks that weight around the middle can be associated with, one of my many motivations! The problem I have had with jeans is that when they fit around my "waist" they can just slide straight down. True apple shape, its like i am immune to belts! I am forever doing the, oh so attractive constant hiking up of my jeans. Looking forward to buying some new clothes all around, but certainly not yet, at a size I don't intend to stay at!

Keep up the good work, very inspiring! I am going to really stay focused this weekend, the last 2 weekends have been full of slip ups, making the rest of the week damage control--trying to change that....
Onwards and downwards, speak soon!

mamaus Fri 01-Mar-13 22:36:20

Oh yea, and glad you are feeling well enough to treadmill, hope you continue to feel better.
I may be getting AF too, emotional wreck today!!
Have a nice weekend smile

Tansie Sat 02-Mar-13 08:36:09

Thanks! Drank the best part of a bottle of pinot single handedly last night which is a big fat fail on so many levels. I am going to have to give it up- I appear to no longer be able to stop at a glass or 2! Work has been stress central which I think is why, but I can't drink like that for long without pay-back somewhere along the line. I should have gone on the 'mill but DH was in there doing his Xbox exercises. He'd like me to do my 30 min walk at the same time but I like to watch telly, not some pumped digitally created fitness instructor bending and hopping along on the Xbox! Boring.

Well done for the loss- it's really good feeling when you think you're bound to have gained, isn't it? I think it's because when we're consciously thinking about food the 'overindulgences' make far more mental impression than days of sensible eating that actually balance it out.

And yes, I'd stick to the old scales! And I too am doing that jeans' hoiking thing grin. Mummy jeans, badly fitting. Your comment: 'its like i am immune to belts' made me laugh!

AF going for it but that's good in that it should all be over by Sunday.

Am off to a course at work for the morning now.

mamaus Sun 03-Mar-13 22:49:23

Hello! Hope that you had a good weekend.
Hoiking up jeans!! That is the word I was looking for, I kept thinking hiking, but knew it wasn't quite right.. smile

I wouldn't want to watch x box workout while treadmill-ing either. I have always thought treadmills or exercise bikes would be ideal for "multi-tasking" working out and watching a show at the same time--very efficient! I keep coming back to the idea of an exercise bike, but fear it would collect dust, or clothes or both...

Don't be too hard on yourself about the wine. Moderation has always been an issue for me. It's tough, especially after you have been so sick, yet still maintained your diet discipline and then if things are stressful at work and you are enjoying a glass of wine or two, its difficult to stop because after all-- you deserve some pleasure in life!
As long as you balance it out, which it certainly sounds like you do, then the occasional blow out is nothing to beat yourself up over.
And, as you wisely said to me in your last post--when we are so aware of what we are eating/drinking/doing-- every mistake seems bigger.
(Side note, part of my moderation issues could be due to over-rewarding myself!)

Reasonably pleased with my behaviour this weekend, went out for a pub lunch, but was fairly restrained in my ordering, ate slowly and ended up leaving quite a bit of food, and then adjusted the rest of my food over the weekend to balance out. (Hopefully)

Anyhow, hope you are well, and good luck this week smile

mamaus Fri 08-Mar-13 08:18:06

Weigh in.....

Week 6
2 lbs lost!!!!
11 stone 4
10 lbs lost in 6 weeks

Very pleased with that and determined not to celebrate and ruin it!

Been a quiet week, hope all is well with you. smile

Enjoying Taekwan-do. Sadly, also enjoying the sweets a bit too much!

Erebus Sat 09-Mar-13 09:28:58

Hiya! I'm erebus again now! Finally got around to looking into the problem!!

Well, no weight loss this week but I'm not actually unhappy about that. I know why, and it wasn't pure laziness grin - it was an almost laughably stressful week at work!

Got some new equipment installed (took 14 months, all up!) and we've had a crash course in how to use it. I wouldn't be your first choice of trainee, being part time and 50+, but, in classic NHS staff-shortage, 'last man standing' stylee, I was the only person there from the rank and file who was trainable! Me and my immediate boss who works fewer hours than me! Anyway, the learning curve wasn't so much vertical as bending over backwards a bit! The back-up bit of identical (but older) kit kept breaking down (it's normally very reliable), and if we don't have at least one working- A&E have to close to admissions, so no pressure, then! All week we've been working 9 1/2 hour days with the cakes the trainer was bringing in to sustain us, and whatever sandwich was left at the canteen for our 15 minute 'lunch break'!

I was hoping excessive cerebral use might burn up lost of calories, however! I'd be a size 8 if it did!

I and my boss are sharing the on-call over this weekend (which is 24/7 call) so I am praying the work-around that has currently 'fixed' the older bit of kit holds up so the duty staff can use it because if that breaks, I will be called in every hour and a half til 8am tomorrow to do the work on the new kit!

And yes, I self-medicated prodigiously come 7pm, back home grin SO:

Week 9

11st 10lbs
BMI 26.89
weight loss this week 0lb
total loss 12lbs in 9 weeks.

And hi to italiangreyhound!

Erebus Fri 15-Mar-13 09:26:00

Same weight again!

Not really disappointed as it's been another difficult week at work and my diet hasn't been particularly 'mindful' - and my wine consumption is getting silly. That's got to stop! grin

Week 10

11st 10lbs
BMI 26.89
weight loss this week 0lb
total loss 12lbs in 10 weeks.

Erebus Fri 12-Apr-13 12:22:03

Me again!

Stopped counting 'weeks'...

Well, it would be fair to say my 'diet' stalled! BUT and it is a big but (see what I did there?! grin)- 3 and a bit months after starting, I am:

11st 11lbs. Still! Been more or less at this weight for a month which I am not at all unhappy about, considering my food intake has been 'not very mindful' and my pinot intake, frankly, insane!

Yes, I need to get back into harness as there's talk that a summer will eventuate. I want to get back to a lb a week weight-loss.

Anyone still out there?!

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