New Year Low Carb Bootcamp interim thread!

(849 Posts)

To continue chatting and preparing for the official start on 7th.

Rules and veg info can be found on the tabs on the old spreadsheet here.

BlackAffronted Thu 03-Jan-13 17:34:32

Can any experienced low-carbers have a quick look at this recipe & tell me if its ok? I have used whole earth organic no added sugar peanut butter, and I wont be eating it all at once (I plan to have 2 or 3 with salad at lunch tomorrow). Thanks!

recipe here

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Thu 03-Jan-13 17:35:13

Phew! Thank you, MrsHP!

A quick re-cap for anyone who is new/hasn't seen this so far:

The next low carb Bootcamp will be starting on 7 January. It will run for 10 weeks, which will take us to mid-March. The idea of Bootcamp is that we have an initial strict fortnight, which will see a significant amount of weight loss, followed by a more relaxed 8 weeks.

Overall, if you follow the rules, you can expect to lose anything up to 20lbs in this time period.

Ah, glad I found the new thread smile It's actually Day 151 for me, but only Day 3 of cutting out alcohol since Christmas (did a 6 week dry spell before Christmas). It's going OK so far, even if DH has gone to the pub without me!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Thu 03-Jan-13 17:36:57

*Here are the rules of Bootcamp:

1.Eat three, proper meals a day
You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack)

2.Avoid processed food, and focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals – meat/fish/eggs.
Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins Daybreak bars.

3.Maximise your fat intake.
Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4.Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food – this is where your carbs should come from.
But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list (see below). You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat

5.Minimal dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited).
If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. You may eat cheese, but only in small amounts.

6.You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink

7.No alcohol

8.No fruit

9.No nuts/seeds

10.No sugar or artificial sweeteners

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Thu 03-Jan-13 17:38:01

And this is the list of allowed veg. Please try and focus on those that are 3g carbs per 100g or less:

And this is the allowed list of veg:

Don’t eat any veg unless it’s on this list, and try and focus on eating those that are under 3g carbs per 100g:

Veg (raw)Carbs per 100g
Mushrooms0.4
Watercress0.4
Spinach0.8
Celery0.9
Broccoli1.1
Asparagus 1.4
Cucumber1.5
Lettuce1.7
Fennel1.8
Courgettes1.8
Cauliflower1.9
Avocado flesh1.9
Turnip2
Pumpkin2.2
Runner beans2.3
Swede2.3
Celeriac2.3
Bean sprouts2.5
Carrots2.5
Green pepper2.6
Baby sweetcorn2.7
Aubergine2.8
Leeks2.9
Okra3
Tomato3.1
Mangetout3.3
Shallots3.3
Brussels sprouts3.5
French beans4.7
Cabbage5
Yellow pepper5.3
Carrots6
Orange or red pepper6.4
Ginger (peeled)7.2
Butternut squash7.5
Onions7.9

Black looks good to me, though remember there's around 1g carb in each garlic clove, and check the info on the tin of coconut cream - some has added sugar. Also, no sweet chilli sauce, but I like Sriracha as an alternative (in much smaller amounts, unless you have a cast iron mouth!).

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Thu 03-Jan-13 17:39:41

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blackaffronted I think it looks ok. Carbiest thing I think is coconut cream and the lime (although not sure how carby lime is). It looks like it will serve 6 portions so should be fine I would have thought!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Thu 03-Jan-13 17:55:50

blackaffronted - work out how many carbs there will be in a portion, from the pack labels. (And don't serve any chilli sauce etc as they will be full of sugar!)

BlackAffronted Thu 03-Jan-13 17:59:01

Thank you all. I wasnt going to have the sweet chilli sauce, just a couple of the drumsticks with salad. Going to check the carbs in the lime & coconut cream.

BandersnatchCummerbund Thu 03-Jan-13 18:07:01

Can I ask a few questions?

-Is fruit allowed after the first fortnight of bootcamp?

-Is there a list of suggested recipes anywhere?

-Can you eat things like porridge oats and lentils, or are they banned?

-Do you find that once you stop low-carbing, the weight piles back on again? I'm up for trying to make permanent changes to my lifestyle (eating more healthily, in smaller portions, and not eating between meals) but don't want to ban any foods from my diet long-term. Is that likely to be a problem?

GinotPrigio Thu 03-Jan-13 18:10:25

Just found an interesting recipe for low carb hot chocolate using coconut milk. I won't post it as I'm pretty sure that cocoa powder isn't allowed in the bootcamp period. Maybe best left for a treat after the 2 weeks are up!

GinotPrigio Thu 03-Jan-13 18:16:11

BadnersnatchCummerbund To answer your q's in short:

- in moderation. lower carb fruits such as berries will be allowed

- http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/big_slim_whatever_weight_loss_club/1447493-Bootcamp-Recipe-Thread

- they are certainly banned for the first 2 weeks. Perhaps lentils may be allowed in moderation after bootcamp but someone else might know for certain

- I have low-carbed before and the weight has gone back on but that was because I made bad decisions overall - high carb, high fat, high calories - high everything! They weight would have gone back on no matter what diet I had done previously

cocolepew Thu 03-Jan-13 18:17:45

Just marking my place smile

MulledwineGless Thu 03-Jan-13 18:21:31

Well done mrs Hp

I typed a big reply on last thread but wouldn't accept the message

Gist of it was that I would like to convert DC to Paleo eating but DH not keen so am reducing their refined carbs and keeping to full fat foods. Spectacularly failed over Xmas and they are in school dinners so no choice there. If I were to change job I would do Paleo packed lunches but no chance at the mo

After the initial two weeks some fruit is allowed in the form of berries as they are lower in carbs than other fruits.

There is a recipe thread - I will try to find link in a movement. BIWI above has listed allowed foods and veg so essentially anything based on those is allowed (obvs not if you add high carb sauces!)

No to porridge oats and lentils in bootcamp. When in maintenance from what others have said you need to add back in carbier foods slowly until you work out what works for you and your body. I know one poster said that different types of carbs affected her differently as opposed to a simple overall carb count.

Marking place smile.

Actually really looking forward to this. I felt so energised when I low-carbed before and when I had lost the weight and gone into 'maintenance' WOE I stayed slim and lovely.

My eating habits eventually slipped into carb-heavy, veg-light, protein-light because I got pregnant, and then four pregnancies, two babies and a nightmare with DS's health later (five years) I'm three stone overweight and NEED to get back into this WOE.

Bring on Bootcamp grin

MulledwineGless Thu 03-Jan-13 18:26:30

Starfish if you don't mind me asking how long were you in maintenance?

coldethyl Thu 03-Jan-13 18:27:05

Ah, Mulled, that's good. DH and I have been trying to discuss this in code this afternoon (nothing like announcing you're changing their diet to get kids refusing to eat anything at all!) and have decided that I'm just going to quietly run down the carbs in the house. DD particularly is completely sugar addicted and can't concentrate on anything else if she knows there's chocolate in the house <eyes tin of celebrations looking suspiciously more empty than half an hour ago>.

Luckily, school lunches for the younger 3 are mostly 'yut' (to quote DS3) and so I shall be packing paleo-ish lunchboxes - although I note paleo proper is dairy free too, and I don't want to go that far. DS1 I will just have to hope sees the light all on his own.

Day 3 done. Really struggled today, felt 'deprived' for the first time. Stayed on plan though by the skin of my teeth and hoping to find it easier again tomorrow.

Suspect part of it is a very 'samey' dinner while we use up this week's shopping... Necessary but oh so boring!

Is a funny taste/feeling in your mouth a common side effect of this WOE? I feel today like I haven't brushed my teeth in a week.

B: scrambled eggs & butter fried mushrooms
L: Homemade chicken soup, with cheese
3pm wobble: olives w/ feta cheese, coddled egg & a baby bell!
D: Fish w/ oil & rosemary sauce, broccoli, carrots & cauliflower mash w/cream.

MulledwineGless Thu 03-Jan-13 18:29:37

Yes dharma it is- that's your body going into ketosis. Whoop whoop
You are going to be fat burning now

EwanHoozami Thu 03-Jan-13 18:30:02

Banders When I've hit my target weight I intend to experiment with carefully reintroducing foods like lentils and porridge and maybe some wholegrains back in. The 'maintenance' phase, I believe.

MulledwineGless Thu 03-Jan-13 18:32:00

And seriously if you are hungry this week then eat- just low carb yummy food!

B boiled egg with dollop of mayo
L mushroom soup
D gammon with fried mushrooms and leeks with dash of cream

Cold - I would stick with dairy too for DS lunches

If vnmum is around she has been doing Paleo for her DC for a while

GreenyEyes Thu 03-Jan-13 18:36:36

B- bacon, fried egg, sausage. Black coffee
L- nothing blush forgot I had a dentists appt
T- slow cooked beef stew (beef, shallots, stock), broccoli cheese, and mashed swede.

2.5l water

Oh thanks Mulled - nice to think that there might be something beneficial from a hard day!

Interestingly (I am tracking on MFP) I was below my daily calories despite eating like an insatiable eating thing all day!

<disckaimer: I am not restricting calories, just noting them!>

BlackAffronted Thu 03-Jan-13 18:43:30

Dharma, I have had that mouth feeling too, in the first week of low-carbing. It was especially bad behind my bottom front teeth, a strange crusty feeling that wouldnt go away no matter how much I brushed! Went away by itself though after a few days.

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I did this for a bit last year and lost 1.5 stone. I'm hoping for another 2 to go. I started yesterday and already feeling less bloated.

GreenyEyes Thu 03-Jan-13 18:44:31

I lost nearly two stone following this WOE last year, and I can honestly say, I never once gave calories a second thought (except to explain to other people that I wasn't counting them). I never wondered "have I eaten too much food today?" or restricted high fat foods in any way

NoveltySlippers Thu 03-Jan-13 18:44:58

Evening all!

B - 2 eggs, 2 rashers of bacon, mushrooms and cherry toms fried in butter
L - Pea and mint soup (oops - think peas not allowed. Sorry!)
D - Watercress salad with avocado, smoked salmon, green olives, sundried toms (not allowed?), cucumber, olive oil and mustard dressing

No caffeine or milk all day (to redeem myself)

Quick Q: a lot of people have mentioned Philadelphia/cream cheese. Isn't that processed and therefore not allowed?

cathyandclaire Thu 03-Jan-13 18:49:35

Whoever was asking about maintenance...I hit target a couple of months ago and since then have eaten pulses and beans, oats, berries and some other fruit, dark chocolate and wine also carbier veg and other stuff if it was in a casseroles.( I've avoided bread and pasta and biscuits cos they make me bingey)) I've stayed the same or a couple of pounds lower until the Xmas binge ( still no bread and pasta but plenty of other crap!) which I am confident will go in two weeks of boot camp. It's a woe that seems manageable iykwim smile

cathyandclaire Thu 03-Jan-13 18:51:36

I introduced all that stuff gradually though... Not all in one go!!!

halfthesize Thu 03-Jan-13 18:56:31

Thanksthanks for new thread MrsHP

ScillyCow Thu 03-Jan-13 18:59:50

HELP ME!!!!

I am still only 2 lbs down after 8 days of being totally strict (except 2 glasses of wine and 6 squares of dark choc on day 2).

B: Scrambled eggs and mushrooms
L: Prawns and olives with salad leaves. Hellmans Mayo (is Hellmans OK?)
Dinner: Poached salmon and mushroom 'dauphinoise' (mushrooms, garlic, a little stilton, cream, baked. Yummmmm.

Did ANYONE else have a slow start like this and go on to lose lots of weight??

<<grasps for straws>>

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Thu 03-Jan-13 19:06:45

Bandersnatch:

Is fruit allowed after the first fortnight of bootcamp?

Yes, but only berries have a look at the tabs at the bottom of the spreadsheet for Bootcamp Light rules, and you will see the fruits listed that you can have there

Is there a list of suggested recipes anywhere?

Indeed there is! Here it is

Can you eat things like porridge oats and lentils, or are they banned?

Not on Bootcamp. However, once the ten weeks are finished/you have lost the weight you want to, this is the point at which you start to maintain. Here, the idea is to gradually add back in more carby foods, keeping a firm eye on the daily carb levels, until the weight starts to go back on.

Do you find that once you stop low-carbing, the weight piles back on again? I'm up for trying to make permanent changes to my lifestyle (eating more healthily, in smaller portions, and not eating between meals) but don't want to ban any foods from my diet long-term. Is that likely to be a problem?

It depends! If you just revert back to eating lots of bread/pasta/potatoes/fruit/chocolate, etc - then yes, the weight probably will pile on - it's why you put weight on in the first place. However, if you follow the rules of maintenance as outlined above, then you will be able to work out what you can tolerate and what you can't. The reality is that you will be able to eat anything you want to, just not all the time!

MulledwineGless Thu 03-Jan-13 19:06:48

Scilly - have you measured yourself? Some people lose INCHES to start with instead of pounds

Also are you exercising as well?

I have had numerous arguments with WW leaders on first few weeks when I gained or didn't lose and they accused me of cheating. Which was especially lovely when in the queue of shame after being weighed in! Some people convert muscle to fat quickly which weighs heavier

thenightsky Thu 03-Jan-13 19:10:19

When buying tinned tuna is it better to go for the stuff in brine or oil ?

ScillyCow Thu 03-Jan-13 19:12:35

Hi MulledWine,

Haven't measured but I know my trousers and tops are looser.
Have upped the exercise (doing at least 20 mins fast walking a day).

Have ordered the Shred <<cringe>> so will be starting that next week.

Just want to loooooooooose all this lard!

TooImmatureMincePies Thu 03-Jan-13 19:13:08

<marks place>

Iamaslummymummy Thu 03-Jan-13 19:17:02

Please can someone add me to the list? I can't figure out how to cut and paste on the android app.

Thenightsky I get the tuna in olive oil - more fats and tastier too I think, lovely with mayo

caramelwaffle Thu 03-Jan-13 19:24:53

BlackAffronted After extensive research I found that Sainsbury's basic peanut butter was a lot better in terms of the carb. count.

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hurricanewyn Thu 03-Jan-13 19:26:31

Holy moley this thread is moving fast. just place marking really

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Thu 03-Jan-13 19:29:16

thenightsky - always go for the full fat options!

cocolepew Thu 03-Jan-13 19:32:33

scilly, the weight I have lost is mostly excess fluid that I was carrying from my hysterectomy op and the antibiotics I needed after. I don't think it's all flab that I lost so don't be disheartened.

thenightsky Thu 03-Jan-13 19:34:07

I think I'm getting confused..

oil = bad
butter = good
tuna in oil = good

confused

cocolepew Thu 03-Jan-13 19:35:02

Dh and the DDs had a chippy tonight. I had a deep fried chicken breast and had some salad and cheese coleslaw with it. I think cheese coleslaw gives me the squits grin.

NoveltySlippers Thu 03-Jan-13 19:36:16

Just reposting as think it got missed:

A lot of people have mentioned Philadelphia/cream cheese. Isn't that processed and therefore not allowed, or is it okay?

thenightsky Thu 03-Jan-13 19:37:41

Would this stuff be ok to have for lunches/snacks to keep in the fridge at work?

seems high cal, but low carb, or am I reading wrong

cocolepew Thu 03-Jan-13 19:38:56

_dark rye ryvita has 6.9g carbs per slice, 10gs is this high? For after the 10 weeks._

MulledwineGless Thu 03-Jan-13 19:55:02

Novelty - I eat pHilly a lot. The only issue can be some people stall when eating too much dairy

The night sky- I have similar at work if I forget to take anything, with bag of salad. The trouble is it is quite processed and can contain sugars with the marinade

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Thu 03-Jan-13 19:55:08

thenightsky - oil is good! It's only cooking with olive oil that isn't so great. But I still cook with it, mainly because the alternative - coconut oil - is so expensive. And, personally, I would avoid that Turkey stuff. Just look at the ingredients list!

cocolelpew - yes, that's too high!

NoveltySlippers - not really - it's just cream cheese. Check the ingredients though. I bought some Sainsbury's Full Fat Cream Cheese yesterday, which I think is their equivalent of Philly - and it just lists milk.

Mulled it was about three years. I wasn't particularly strict, but didn't find it hard to eat well this way and then occasionally enjoy something I'd baked or a pizza out with friends and then slot back into the maintenance WOE. I felt very balanced, I'd say, overall.

BlackAffronted Thu 03-Jan-13 19:59:48

Thanks for the peanut butter info Caramel. I dont have a Sainsburies near here, but I may do an online shop & stock on their PB (amongst other things ha ha not a shop of just PB as tempting as that is grin)

Doshusallie Thu 03-Jan-13 20:00:11

The night sky I would eat this no problem.

I also eat full fat cream cheese.

NoveltySlippers Thu 03-Jan-13 20:01:16

Mulled & BIWI - hurrah! I love it.

Right, that's going in the shopping basket. <click>

MulledwineGless Thu 03-Jan-13 20:02:08

Starfish - Ive been on this for 8 months now and would like to lose another stone by April so that will be a year. After that I can't see me going back to high carb again. Even after 2 proper days of LC I feel so much better although struggling with the lurgy. Gluten intolerance is in the family my aunt, mums cousin and other family members so I think I prefer to stay gluten free even if have other carbs when in maintenance

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Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
Froufroulala
SkaffenAmtiskaw
WomenandChickensFirst
sparkly peach
Lavenderhoney
NellVarnish
TheAccidentalExhibitionist
Frenchfries22
HavingAnOffDay
coldethyl
CaramelWaffle
CJCregg
HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey
halfthesize
GuyMartinsSideburns
Pinot
Rooobs
Chocberry
Thekitchenfairy
Mudwiggle
DharmaBumpkin
TaffyandTeenyTaffy
LucyVFood
Daisie4
Janx
Kracken
Livelongandprosper
ToffeePenny
musicmusicmusic
Lifeisontheup
Falling Over
queribus
SeriousWispaHabit
BlackAffronted
elliephant
SoleSource
PlatoonBuffoon
Prolificmincepiebreeder
PrincessSparkle86
PrettyPirate
Stylelostinlabour
Tw1nkle
Anaisa
OTTMummA
TinTinsSexySister
MegTheCat
Valdeeves
Kickarsequeen
FellatioNelson
ChristmasJubilee
TheSandstoneCat
Sorelip
Magpie2
Essexgirl31
TooImmatureMincePies
TheMumsnot
StarfishEnterprise
NAZZ
kandinskysgirl
Iamaslummymummy
GibbsGirl

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Thu 03-Jan-13 20:14:58

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
Froufroulala
SkaffenAmtiskaw
WomenandChickensFirst
sparkly peach
Lavenderhoney
NellVarnish
TheAccidentalExhibitionist
Frenchfries22
HavingAnOffDay
coldethyl
CaramelWaffle
CJCregg
HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey
halfthesize
GuyMartinsSideburns
Pinot
Rooobs
Chocberry
Thekitchenfairy
Mudwiggle
DharmaBumpkin
TaffyandTeenyTaffy
LucyVFood
Daisie4
Janx
Kracken
Livelongandprosper
ToffeePenny
musicmusicmusic
Lifeisontheup
Falling Over
queribus
SeriousWispaHabit
BlackAffronted
elliephant
SoleSource
PlatoonBuffoon
Prolificmincepiebreeder
PrincessSparkle86
PrettyPirate
Stylelostinlabour
Tw1nkle
Anaisa
OTTMummA
TinTinsSexySister
MegTheCat
Valdeeves
Kickarsequeen
FellatioNelson
ChristmasJubilee
TheSandstoneCat
Sorelip
Magpie2
Essexgirl31
TooImmatureMincePies
TheMumsnot
StarfishEnterprise
NAZZ
kandinskysgirl
Iamaslummymummy
GibbsGirl
MyNameIsNOTZiggy

Just adding MyNameIsNOTZiggy who was the last poster on the other thread!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Thu 03-Jan-13 20:17:12

... and now I'm putting her on with the correct name blush

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
Froufroulala
SkaffenAmtiskaw
WomenandChickensFirst
sparkly peach
Lavenderhoney
NellVarnish
TheAccidentalExhibitionist
Frenchfries22
HavingAnOffDay
coldethyl
CaramelWaffle
CJCregg
HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey
halfthesize
GuyMartinsSideburns
Pinot
Rooobs
Chocberry
Thekitchenfairy
Mudwiggle
DharmaBumpkin
TaffyandTeenyTaffy
LucyVFood
Daisie4
Janx
Kracken
Livelongandprosper
ToffeePenny
musicmusicmusic
Lifeisontheup
Falling Over
queribus
SeriousWispaHabit
BlackAffronted
elliephant
SoleSource
PlatoonBuffoon
Prolificmincepiebreeder
PrincessSparkle86
PrettyPirate
Stylelostinlabour
Tw1nkle
Anaisa
OTTMummA
TinTinsSexySister
MegTheCat
Valdeeves
Kickarsequeen
FellatioNelson
ChristmasJubilee
TheSandstoneCat
Sorelip
Magpie2
Essexgirl31
TooImmatureMincePies
TheMumsnot
StarfishEnterprise
NAZZ
kandinskysgirl
Iamaslummymummy
GibbsGirl
TheNameIsNOTZiggy

Lifeisontheup Thu 03-Jan-13 20:18:14

Today:
B: Egg and bacon
L: Nothing - was up very late so Breakfast was at lunch time
D: Mushroom baked with butter and garlic topped with stilton served with green beans and pak choi

Slipped up and ate 6 after eights blush but at least they're all gone now.

Will make sure I have three meals tomorrow I promise.

Lots of water, drinking it hot now as find cold a bit miserable in winter.

NoveltySlippers Thu 03-Jan-13 20:22:43

Oooh <excited face>

Just found great blog post - apparently low carbing keeps you looking young too? (Guess it's all those sugars you're not eating.) As if I needed more reasons to try this WOE. Yippee!

holdthetoast.com/content/the_unsung_benefit_of_avoiding_carbs

prettybird Thu 03-Jan-13 20:27:49

Marking place. I'd added my name to the list towards the end of the old thread but it doesn't seem to have transferred. I'm back on the iPod so it's difficult for me to C&P - can someone else add my name please?

sybilfaulty Thu 03-Jan-13 20:29:05

Just adding myself in.

Philly and the like very good for making sauces. Thin with water and add cheese, mustard etc then use in lasagne, moussaka, cauliflower cheese etc. delicious !

MulledwineGless Thu 03-Jan-13 20:29:21

Love that blog! Have to say I have had more compliments in last couple of months at work since I turned 40 than in the whole of my career so there is some truth in it

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
Froufroulala
SkaffenAmtiskaw
WomenandChickensFirst
sparkly peach
Lavenderhoney
NellVarnish
TheAccidentalExhibitionist
Frenchfries22
HavingAnOffDay
coldethyl
CaramelWaffle
CJCregg
HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey
halfthesize
GuyMartinsSideburns
Pinot
Rooobs
Chocberry
Thekitchenfairy
Mudwiggle
DharmaBumpkin
TaffyandTeenyTaffy
LucyVFood
Daisie4
Janx
Kracken
Livelongandprosper
ToffeePenny
musicmusicmusic
Lifeisontheup
Falling Over
queribus
SeriousWispaHabit
BlackAffronted
elliephant
SoleSource
PlatoonBuffoon
Prolificmincepiebreeder
PrincessSparkle86
PrettyPirate
Stylelostinlabour
Tw1nkle
Anaisa
OTTMummA
TinTinsSexySister
MegTheCat
Valdeeves
Kickarsequeen
FellatioNelson
ChristmasJubilee
TheSandstoneCat
Sorelip
Magpie2
Essexgirl31
TooImmatureMincePies
TheMumsnot
StarfishEnterprise
NAZZ
kandinskysgirl
Iamaslummymummy
GibbsGirl
TheNameIsNOTZiggy

Right, I'm in (from Monday, still got rubbish to scoff!) grin

MulledwineGless Thu 03-Jan-13 20:30:50

Just had email from
Sainsburys about half price on selected meat and fish

Fill your boots!

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
Froufroulala
SkaffenAmtiskaw
WomenandChickensFirst
sparkly peach
Lavenderhoney
NellVarnish
TheAccidentalExhibitionist
Frenchfries22
HavingAnOffDay
coldethyl
CaramelWaffle
CJCregg
HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey
halfthesize
GuyMartinsSideburns
Pinot
Rooobs
Chocberry
Thekitchenfairy
Mudwiggle
DharmaBumpkin
TaffyandTeenyTaffy
LucyVFood
Daisie4
Janx
Kracken
Livelongandprosper
ToffeePenny
musicmusicmusic
Lifeisontheup
Falling Over
queribus
SeriousWispaHabit
BlackAffronted
elliephant
SoleSource
PlatoonBuffoon
Prolificmincepiebreeder
PrincessSparkle86
PrettyPirate
Stylelostinlabour
Tw1nkle
Anaisa
OTTMummA
TinTinsSexySister
MegTheCat
Valdeeves
Kickarsequeen
FellatioNelson
ChristmasJubilee
TheSandstoneCat
Sorelip
Magpie2
Essexgirl31
TooImmatureMincePies
TheMumsnot
StarfishEnterprise
NAZZ
kandinskysgirl
Iamaslummymummy
GibbsGirl
TheNameIsNOTZiggy
clare8allthe pies

Trying that again, actually adding myself this time blush

Wilding Thu 03-Jan-13 20:31:31

Just adding myself now I'm not on the phone!

Have been surprisingly unhungry today although I did just eat a piece of white chocolate blush

Really not helpful still having Christmas stuff round the house, I must try and get rid of it!

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
Froufroulala
SkaffenAmtiskaw
WomenandChickensFirst
sparkly peach
Lavenderhoney
NellVarnish
TheAccidentalExhibitionist
Frenchfries22
HavingAnOffDay
coldethyl
CaramelWaffle
CJCregg
HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey
halfthesize
GuyMartinsSideburns
Pinot
Rooobs
Chocberry
Thekitchenfairy
Mudwiggle
DharmaBumpkin
TaffyandTeenyTaffy
LucyVFood
Daisie4
Janx
Kracken
Livelongandprosper
ToffeePenny
musicmusicmusic
Lifeisontheup
Falling Over
queribus
SeriousWispaHabit
BlackAffronted
elliephant
SoleSource
PlatoonBuffoon
Prolificmincepiebreeder
PrincessSparkle86
PrettyPirate
Stylelostinlabour
Tw1nkle
Anaisa
OTTMummA
TinTinsSexySister
MegTheCat
Valdeeves
Kickarsequeen
FellatioNelson
ChristmasJubilee
TheSandstoneCat
Sorelip
Magpie2
Essexgirl31
TooImmatureMincePies
TheMumsnot
StarfishEnterprise
NAZZ
kandinskysgirl
Iamaslummymummy
GibbsGirl
TheNameIsNOTZiggy
Wilding

BandersnatchCummerbund Thu 03-Jan-13 20:31:52

Thanks BIWI and others for answering my questions! smile

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
Froufroulala
SkaffenAmtiskaw
WomenandChickensFirst
sparkly peach
Lavenderhoney
NellVarnish
TheAccidentalExhibitionist
Frenchfries22
HavingAnOffDay
coldethyl
CaramelWaffle
CJCregg
HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey
halfthesize
GuyMartinsSideburns
Pinot
Rooobs
Chocberry
Thekitchenfairy
Mudwiggle
DharmaBumpkin
TaffyandTeenyTaffy
LucyVFood
Daisie4
Janx
Kracken
Livelongandprosper
ToffeePenny
musicmusicmusic
Lifeisontheup
Falling Over
queribus
SeriousWispaHabit
BlackAffronted
elliephant
SoleSource
PlatoonBuffoon
Prolificmincepiebreeder
PrincessSparkle86
PrettyPirate
Stylelostinlabour
Tw1nkle
Anaisa
OTTMummA
TinTinsSexySister
MegTheCat
Valdeeves
Kickarsequeen
FellatioNelson
ChristmasJubilee
TheSandstoneCat
Sorelip
Magpie2
Essexgirl31
TooImmatureMincePies
TheMumsnot
StarfishEnterprise
NAZZ
kandinskysgirl
Iamaslummymummy
GibbsGirl
TheNameIsNOTZiggy
Wilding
clare8allthepies

cross posted so added myself again

Rooobs Thu 03-Jan-13 20:35:08

marking place

feeling crap

I feel 'fuggy'. and deprived. I'd really like a wee chocolate. Just a wee one. And a wine. Just a massive one. sad

encyclogirl Thu 03-Jan-13 20:36:18

Hi all, I joined this thread a year ago and lost 2 stone. Kept it off all year, but gained half a stone back during the party season, so it's back to bootcamp I go.

Good luck everyone!

TaffyandTeenyTaffy Thu 03-Jan-13 20:36:54

OK, so today I have had...
B - bacon and fried egg
L - tuna mayo salad
D - belly pork, mushrooms, steamed cauliflower and brocoli
2 x black coffees (resisted the temptation of the coffee cart!),
1.5 litres of water

Need to have some more water tonight - but does this look ok-ish?

MulledwineGless Thu 03-Jan-13 20:37:20

Roobs

What have you had to eat today?
Have something else to eat and a glass of sparkling water to fill you up

Maryz Thu 03-Jan-13 20:39:15

Oh, BIWI, if you aren't starting until the 7th, I might join in this one.

Just marking place (again) while I have a rootle round the previous threads and psych myself up.

I'm not adding myself to the list as I will probably fall off before I even start hmm.

Push on through Rooobs.

My DH has printed off a rather handy countdown chart to stick on the fridge so I can take delight in crossing off the days as we progress through bootcamp. It does help. Along with a fat photo of myself on the fridge and a photo of myself looking very slender and healthy. Really helps with those 'BUT I JUST WANT A WINE' moments.

Saying that, I'm only at the end of day two <tum te tum te tum>

My after dinner treat this evening was a small black coffee. Rock on.

BlackAffronted Thu 03-Jan-13 20:44:22

Going to try & make my own mayo! Will it be carb free then? Im going to use eggs, olive oil, salt, mustard powder and rice wine vinegar.

MissNJE Thu 03-Jan-13 20:45:12

Hello,

I can't wait to start on Monday. I am already low-carbing since yesterday but not too strict.

MulledwineGless Thu 03-Jan-13 20:46:04

Just remembered the phrase which has seen me through

Nothing tastes as good as being slim feels

Rooobs Thu 03-Jan-13 20:54:35

Oh, and I'm GRUMPY, RAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGHGH!!

NoveltySlippers Thu 03-Jan-13 20:55:21

Mulled that's fab about compliments at work smile

Doshusallie Thu 03-Jan-13 20:56:33

One thing that used to help me on previous bootcamps (can't remember who said it - mrsHP?) that really can stop you reaching for that chocolate /stollen/leftover mince pie/packet of crisps - you have eaten these things before. You will almost certainly eat these things again in your lifetime. You know what they taste like. You know what it will feel like in your mouth, and swallowing it. Do you really have to eat it now? Is it worth the slip up now to have that taste again? If so, then yes great, go for it and enjoy it and treat it as a planned cheat. If not, just leave it alone. Save it for another time when you will really savour and enjoy it.

This was echoed over and over again in the final festive BOOTCAMP thread when so many people said they had had this that and the other and they actually wish they hadn't bothered because it didn't taste as nice as they had thought it was going to (a bit meh in fact, or far too sweet) or they wish they had saved their lapse for a specific event or date.

Another drop of wisdom, this time from Zoe Harcombe, and I quote, "if you really fancy a box of chocolates you are much better off eating the whole box at once, than you are having one or two, here and there, throughout the day. If you eat a whole box of chocolates your body won't recognise the food so it will pump out insulin to respond to the sweetness. If you eat the whole box in less than an hour your body will have one sugar rush to respond to. If you eat the whole box throughout the day your pancreas will be on continual alert and you will be on a roller coaster of blood glucose highs and lows for hours"

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Thu 03-Jan-13 21:05:36

BlackAffronted - you would be better off using lemon juice or wine vinegar, as I think rice vinegar is fairly carby. Hang on, will check ...

halfthesize Thu 03-Jan-13 21:06:33

Dosh that is so true about the eating carby things and it not being worth it. I had quite a massive carb blow out over festive celebrations and nothing tasted that great and as a result, my skin is bad, I am sluggish, bloated and miserable. I am a joy to be around this weekhmm

Whilst doing this WOE since April I have lost weight, seen an improvement in my IBS and PMT. I have had loads more energy and been happier in general, which has helped in my personal life. So everytime you want something naughty, just think to yourself, is it really worth it and have a drink of water insteadsmile

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Thu 03-Jan-13 21:07:01

Right. Mizkan Rice Vinegar is 2.6g carbs per 100ml, so it's not that bad.

AuntieMaggie Thu 03-Jan-13 21:12:28

rooobs sparkling water was my godsend on bootcamp last time - buy lots of it to drink in the evenings.

dosh you aren't really encouraging me to eat a whole box of choc are you??? I'm not starting til Mon but still... wink

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Thu 03-Jan-13 21:16:10

... but, by comparison, Aspal's Cyder Vinegar is 0.1g carbs per 100ml - so why not use that, and make sure that the mayo is as low carb as possible?

AuntieMaggie - step away from the chocolates!!!

TooImmatureMincePies Thu 03-Jan-13 21:29:34

Right, Tesco online shop done ready to start on Saturday (delivery tomorrow, I mean). Who was it said they could live on £35 a week? Am awed. Mine cost £50, for 2 adults and a baby (who throws a fair amount of food so needs largish portions so she actually eats something).

Yup your right I had few days of in Decrmber and was I'll and I'll enough that it kept me on straight and narrow over Xmas . So went straight back to it and Felt so much better

Helloo hellooooo (waves at you all) &#128512;

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
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I still in. Wasn't too bad over Christmas but still put on 4 pounds. I've got a family gathering that I can't get out of tomorrow. It's at the Chinese 'All you can eat' Buffet and I don't think there is a single low carb option available so will cheat wildly and then get totally back on the wagon.

MulledwineGless Thu 03-Jan-13 21:48:18

Whipper - Chinese is the worst for low carb IMO

GinotPrigio Thu 03-Jan-13 21:49:51

Oh dear, just cheated big time with a large petits filous. Bad bad girl sad Must resist the lure of sugar tomorrow

Whipp I haven't eaten Chinese since I left London but I could usually manage to get some low-ish carb options in the Soho joints. Even if it was just a plate of duck and some stir fried broccoli and beansprouts.

It's the sauces that are the killer for hidden carbs so seek out the drier stir fried options and you shouldn't end up with too much of a carb nightmare on your hands. If you only have a choice of sauced-up dishes to choose from, black bean is far superior to sweet and sour, for example.

Mulledwinegless, we were wracking our brains to think of anything they might have that was low carb and the only thing we could think of was the duck, celery and spring onions for the crispy duck pancakes. grin

I really can't be doing with all the hassle I'd get if all I ate was the duck, so cheating it is. It will be the most major cheat I've had in 10 months. The worst I've done before has been a couple of chocolates or a roast potato. I'm going to have 'tummy issues' aren't I? smile

Starfish, sorry I cross posted with you. smile This is the crappiest buffet place going, everything is in some kind of sweet sauce and batter or is a rice or noodle dish. I would develop norovirus just in time but I don't think my husband and brother would forgive me. It's one of those events that don't come round very often and my family are notoriously unsociable so it'scprobably less hassle to just relax and enjoy hmm it. Bring on the carb coma!

MulledwineGless Thu 03-Jan-13 22:13:35

If you are gonna cheat then you may as well do it in style whipper!

If you enjoy it then its one cheats d get straight back on it with loads of water

PromQueenWithin Thu 03-Jan-13 22:14:05

I have been easing myself into things over the last few days. Not seeing much difference yet, but really regret eating 3 of dc's chocolates blush

I've also heard that this woe has a positive effect on skin too. Fingers crossed...

Oh Promqueen, at well on the way to 50 I still had spots but since I've been low carbing they have pretty much gone away. Also very little PMT and pre period bloating and the perimenopausal hot flushes have nearly gone.

Lots of my hair fell out at the beginning and I was quite worried but it has all grown back and is thicker than ever.

PromQueenWithin Thu 03-Jan-13 22:28:09

That sounds good, Whip Whippoorwhill. My skin isn't too bad really, but I do seem to suffer many hormone related malaises like PMT and monthly breakouts so it would be great if this woe helped with those.

MulledwineGless Thu 03-Jan-13 22:28:18

I have rosacea and my skin is nearly perfect now.

I had a blip to start with as periods went haywire in first few weeks but all settled down and back to normal

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I joined on the last thread but forgot to add my name to the list. It's enormous!

Lost 1 stone before Christmas with Briffa (DH lost 2) but undid quite a bit of that over Christmas.

chilli with roasted cauliflower tonight which was delicious.

happygolucky0 Thu 03-Jan-13 22:44:36

Hello all. Good news about the water... I feel like a beach whale a the mo.Do you all weigh yourself Monday?

happygolucky0 Thu 03-Jan-13 22:56:50

also just wondering if anyone has any tips to help with the non stop eating in the evenings which at the mo is my biggest downfall?

TheSandstoneCat Thu 03-Jan-13 23:00:15

Just marking my place in advance of Monday - have now eaten all the Christmas food and nearly finished all the wine so getting ready for Monday. Funnily enough - as a long term low carber who lost 10 kg last year - I didn't put on any weight over Christmas despite eating and drinking. I wasn't a greedy pig but did eat a moderately carby diet. Wonder if cheese limited my weight loss last year - ate a lot of it. None over Christmas but stabilised my weight. Going to try for a low carb AND low cheese diet now and see if it makes a difference. Want to lose 6kg before half term but would love to lose another 10 kg this year.

happygolucky0 Thu 03-Jan-13 23:02:23

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PromQueenWithin Thu 03-Jan-13 23:05:33

Can anyone point me to the info about how much water to drink related to weight? I have skimmed the big thread a bit but can't see it. flowers

vnmum Thu 03-Jan-13 23:36:09

for those asking about children and low carb, I just explained to my two (4 and 6 at the time) that we were going to change some of what we eat so we can be healthy and grow strong muscles. they eat what we eat with the addition of occasional rice or potatoes. they have a few more carby snacks like nakd bars, and they have crisps occasionally as I feel potatoes are better than biscuits. for breakfast they have Greek yog and fruit or porridge. they also have gluten free bread now for sandwiches in their packed lunch.
I let them have a few more carbs because their brains are still growing and they probably do need more than mesmile .

the 'ear like a dinosaur' book is good for explaining to children themselves about eating this way. it is cheapest on kindle.

I noticed that my DC weren't constantly hungry and their behaviour improved too.

my main concern was to reduce the sugar dramatically and to cut out wheat as DD appears to have similar reactions to wheat as DH and he has ibs.

hope this helps.

anewdispensation Thu 03-Jan-13 23:38:07

End of day 2. so far so good. headache is still there but shakes have subsided.

B- Cucumber and handful of cheddar cheese
L- Full fat Greek Yoghurt and a slice of ham
D- Grilled pork chops and a creamy mushroom sauce and salad with low card mayo which was seriously yummy and filling.

M&S have a 3 for £10 offer on meats so stocked up on pork, chicken thighs and shin of beef.

I could not believe the number of things I had to eliminate today based on their carb content and I couldn't believe I was checking labels.

I also went to LIDL but they only had the low fat option of the Greek 1000g tub yoghurt so will check elsewhere. I bought the unsweetened M&S one but it is almost gone.

My greatest shopping challenge was finding butter as they all seem to boast in the fact that they have less fat than butter etc.

Please can someone suggest a good butter brand to buy? thanks

Valdeeves Thu 03-Jan-13 23:42:55

I am really enjoying this thread - all the tips and meals described will help me plan. I managed day one of no carbs which is a huge achievement as I'm a complete sugar addict.
I've had two kids and this last pregnancy has given my figure a real pear shape - two extra inches on hips, bums and thighs. I've got a stone to lose to be pre baby but I'd like to lose two to have more wardrobe options. I'm thirty five at the end of the month so would be great to have made progress by then. No time for exercise as have a young baby and a hubby who works late - it'll be all about the food for me.

vnmum that's really interesting. DS1 is nearly 7 and has (I think) quite strong reactions to sugar. He gets very hyper which may be coincidence or not. He has always absolutely craved carbs and could easily demolish a packet of hot cross buns or slice after slice of toast. He is constantly hungry.

I think he does need carbs but I've been trying to sneak a lot more fat and protein into his diet (he's always been a reluctant meat eater). His requested meal would be plain pasta and peas with a bit of grated cheese on the top. However now I at least try to include a good dose of butter and maybe some ham or bacon.

Tonight they had rice but I loaded it with left over roast pork and fried it mixed with a couple of eggs for extra protein.

DS2 doesn't have nearly so definite a reaction but has always been a better eater.

Apart from babybel though, I struggle to think of non-carby snacks for them.

mumat39 Thu 03-Jan-13 23:47:51

Anew, we buy Rachel's organic butter and it's really yummy.

Hope that helps.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Thu 03-Jan-13 23:53:31

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All good brands! Equally, all the supermarkets do their own label version. Butter can only be labelled butter if it has 80% fat.

vnmum Thu 03-Jan-13 23:56:02

coldethyl my DC still have dairy.
[waves at whippoorwill] whip also has success with feeding her DC paleo iirc.

I have not been too hungry today so expect I am in full blown ketosis. only problem is I am not tired but am in work early in the morning. I had this problem when I first went into ketosis when I started low carb last Feb. I seem to get the euphoric feeling at the wrong time of day confused

letsgocamping Fri 04-Jan-13 00:20:03

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anewdispensation Fri 04-Jan-13 00:25:15

Thanks BIWI and Mumat

mumat39 Fri 04-Jan-13 01:22:49

Just checked and the Rachel's butter is 81.7g fat and is made of cream and salt.

BIWI, I hope that makes this an okay one?

SaraBellumHertz Fri 04-Jan-13 06:17:15

Count me in - don't know what happened over Christmas but I appear to be 8lb heavier shock

I find it a bit of a struggle to properly low carb - I'm not in UK and access to fresh veg and salad is not ways great but I'm going to do what I can, cut out the booze and so how I go smile

Morning all. I started yesterday... Couldnt wait for monday! can anyone please rate my choices at Nandos yesterday? I had Mediterranean salad (olives, feta, lettuce cucumber tomatoes and dressing), some grilled halloumi and plain chicken wings with skin. Good choices?

Apart from that I had Greek yoghurt for breakfast and tuna and green salad with olive oil and full fat mayo for dinner.

That's interesting about hair loss whippoorwhill - I had that problem last year while on low carb... Wonder if I should take a vitamin supplement this time around.

cocolepew Fri 04-Jan-13 08:05:53

Anew, I prefer the taste of salted butter.

Good luck today everyone.

BlackAffronted Fri 04-Jan-13 08:19:56

biwi - thanks for the vinegar info! Will use a lower carb one in my mayo smile

becstar - your nandos choices sound perfect - good to know we can eat out there & have a tasty meal!

I have PCOS and probable insulin resistence. Im not sure if others here have PCOS, but I found that my skin cleared up, and the excess hairiness (i get chin hairs & a sligh tashe blush) really cleared up - i love all the side effects of eating low carb grin

Suttyshotty Fri 04-Jan-13 08:40:05

I'm in too, can someone add me please as I'm technologically challenged and can't work out how to do it!
I lost 2 stone low carbing and felt fantastic, then met DP and it's gradually crept back on confused I am 40 this year and we want to start TTC before the end of 2013 so I need to get cracking and shift some weight

LucyVFood Fri 04-Jan-13 08:52:11

Stonking headache is going strong (day 3) BUT I feel some much less bloated. I must buy some scales!

Can anyone recommend a quick toning workout you can do at home? I've seen a few online and have some Wii games but just wondered if anyone had a particular favourite.

LucyVFood Fri 04-Jan-13 08:53:06

Adding Suttyshotty smile

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Doshusallie Fri 04-Jan-13 08:54:19

Morning all. Becstar all looks fine assuming the dressing was low in sugar.

B - full fat Greek yoghurt. Still a pound up. Am eating a lot, but don't think I am in Ketostis which is weird. Everything I am eating is very low carb and I am not drinking. shock

Back to the gym today even though I hurt from Wednesday.

cathyandclaire Fri 04-Jan-13 09:04:44

Lucy have you tried the Shred? it's 29 mins a day but pretty intense and i definitely saw results with it smile
headache just kicking in here... Feel like I'm hungover but without the booze- but 3lb down ( the one i gained yesterday took another two with it') Yay ketosis may be starting.
Off to drink a gallon of water and snarf some scrambled eggs and bacon.

cathyandclaire Fri 04-Jan-13 09:05:08

Sorry that's 20 mins a day

EwanHoozami Fri 04-Jan-13 09:07:33

Morning chaps.

I'm not starting bootcamp proper until Monday. I'm still wobbling along with my slightly lapsed version for a few more days. My Super LC Online Shop is booked and I'll do a big fridge clear out tomorrow. Gawd knows what I'll find..

Two poorly children here today so I'm at home climbing the walls so am around to generally burble on and answer questions if I can (I'm not an expert but an enthusiastic LC info-gatherer; specialist area budget low-carb grub grin )

Becstar it looks like good choices, although be careful with some salad dressings. I always ask for my dressing on the side when out as I can then assess if it is sugary or made with balsamic and use as much little as necessary. I have never had a restaurant have a problem with that!

DangerousMouse Fri 04-Jan-13 09:08:20

I thought I was on the list but can't see myself. Please can someone add me.

Off to do a big vegetable and egg shop ready for Monday, my DP is joining in as well.

LucyVFood Fri 04-Jan-13 09:17:49

I haven't seen the Shred cathyandclaire but 20 minutes sounds great! I'll go check Amazon now. Thanks!

MulledwineGless Fri 04-Jan-13 09:23:43

Morning losers
Just a reminder for those who are vegetarian that you CAN eat nuts on Bootcamp and there is a slightly different set of rules

Morning all, Im feeling good this morning, today is my day 5 and Im surprised that I havent had a headache as yet as before Id get a stonker around day 3. On 31st dec I was 9st 6lb, today Im 9st 3lb according to my scales so I'll be interested to see how this goes.

cathyandclaire Fri 04-Jan-13 09:32:46

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PrettyPirate Fri 04-Jan-13 09:41:42

lucy I second the 30 day Shred dvd, did some last year and you could really feel the difference. You need to buy some weights though, I got some from argos half price. Planning to start next week when kids back at school.

froufroulala Fri 04-Jan-13 09:46:19

Starting day 3 here. Have lost 3lbs so far but realise this will be water. Energy levels seem better too. Have a good day everyone.

LucyVFood Fri 04-Jan-13 09:56:19

PrettyPirate, which weights did you use? There are some Davina ones in Argos for a tenner, would those do?

PrettyPirate Fri 04-Jan-13 10:04:42

These are the ones! Started with lighter ones but after a week I found them too light and used the medium ones.

ElectricSoftParade Fri 04-Jan-13 10:21:05

Morning All, am just adding myself as am too fat, too miserable and too unhapppy to continue as I am. Am taking all the positives from here and am going to change! <raises fists to the sky>. Am starting on Monday and will use the Shred from then too. Good luck to us all!

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thekitchenfairy Fri 04-Jan-13 10:25:20

OMG Thank you BIWI I am having less sugar cravings after meals, and can't believe food tastes so sweet... Thx for your encouragement, it really gave me a good kick up the arse to get going with this.

I have last 3lb already, i am quite frankly astonished and a little pleased with myself, still v much learning as I go but discovering the delights of cream in coffee as I go!!

Thirsty al the time, no headache yet but no massive energy slump either.

Had a slip up and absent mindedly scarfed a couple of squares of ds2 choc... Horrendous stomach cramps but I'm actually quite glad as I won't be reaching for that again grin

GreenyEyes Fri 04-Jan-13 10:25:48

Morning all losers!

I'm starting to feel a bit jittery as it's day 3 of Bootcamp/ phase 1 and and I feel perfectly normal hmm

Last time, by day 3 I was on my knees shock although I did give up caffeine as well so perhaps that's what it was. Anyway, I know I'm not eating or drinking anything I shouldn't be so...

Can't help thinking a nice carb withdrawal headache or two would be comforting though

hurricanewyn Fri 04-Jan-13 10:30:26

Morning all

Felt much better yesterday, so thankfully no lurgy. A headache last night, but that was probably down to tiredness.

Bratwurst & egg for breakfast again. Will be having an omlette with Leftover pork for dinner, not sure about lunch yet but I'llrustle something up.

Tomorrow I'll be on a train from 10.30 till 4.30. Any suggestions for cheap snacky bits? A couple of boiled eggs? Any other suggestions welcomed smile

GreenyEyes Fri 04-Jan-13 10:38:48

Cheap snacky bits -

Sticks of cheese, slices of ham/ chicken? Cocktail sausages?

But heavy on the processed side but I'm thinking non-soggy grin

Hi, I am adding myself. Have 10kg to lose (lost it before but put it on again!). Long-term low carber but fell off the wagon the last six months!

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Rooobs Fri 04-Jan-13 10:45:47

Morning all!

Day 3. No weightloss yet sad

I'm hoping to feel better today as I was stabby by the time I went to bed last night.

B: Scrambled eggs.
L: Low carb cauliflower cheese maybe (made with cream cheese, cream and ricotta perhaps)
D: steak and buttered kale smile

Ciao for now!

LucyVFood Fri 04-Jan-13 10:45:53

Is cottage cheese okay?

PostBellumBugsy Fri 04-Jan-13 10:47:06

Hello again BIWI and fellow low carb fans. I got back on the wagon on 28th December and feel so much better already just one week in. Adding my name to the list:

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NellVarnish
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coldethyl
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Pinot
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EwanHoozami Fri 04-Jan-13 11:01:30

GreenyEyes RE cheaper snacks, I quite like to make up a crustless quiche / fritatta type effort and cut it into finger-sized strips for daytime snackage. Tis budget-friendly because you can bung lots of fridge remnants into it. this is quite a good recipe and easily adaptable. Good for lunchboxes too.

Weighed in this morning & was 2kg down shock Glad now that I stuck out the rough ride yesterday! Motivation high!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 04-Jan-13 11:12:56

LucyVFood - cottage cheese is relatively carby, at 4.8g carbs per 100g. And that's for full fat.

GreenEyes - grin that you're wanting the headache! I have to say, I never suffered from carb withdrawal that badly, and certainly no longer, after a brief lapse. I had horrendous withdrawal from caffeine, though.

Dharma - brilliant!

Roobs - be patient. Only day 3. And the thing you do have to remember is that we are all different and will lose/gain at different rates. But a couple of questions - are you eating enough? And are you drinking enough water?

mumat39 - Rachel's sounds perfect. And it's organic as well, I think, which is even better!

MulledwineGless Fri 04-Jan-13 11:22:23

I have FINALLY finished transferring all the recipes from the thread onto the main recipe finder

here

EwanHoozami Fri 04-Jan-13 11:29:00

OH nice one Gless thanks I'll have a gander

EwanHoozami Fri 04-Jan-13 11:31:20

shock and grin at the (non-Gless) pasta and rice recipes, mind

MulledwineGless Fri 04-Jan-13 11:35:22

Dharma thats fab!
I am 2lb down and sort of started on Monday ish so quite happy with that.

I have some left over chicken and going to have with buttery leeks and cabbage for lunch.

DS has his friend over so we have been on Just Dance 4 - should have burned off a few calories there wink

MulledwineGless Fri 04-Jan-13 11:35:58

I might email MNHQ again and ask that any non low carb ones are moved to the most appropriate location!

Wow that is noble winegless, thank you

Yes I spotted the risotto at the top! I think that must have been done by mnhq because some of those recipes were on tere before there was a low carb category

TooImmatureMincePies Fri 04-Jan-13 11:36:19

Oooh, ElectricSoftParade, LucyVFood, PrettyPirate and anyone else doing or planning to do the Shred, please please can we have a support group? I thought maybe a parallel thread because this one's a bit big and not everyone wants to hear me burbling on about Shredding. I need some moral support - I've never made it past Day 10, and that was ages ago. More recent attempts have failed after Day 5 and Day 3 respectively. What do you think?

MulledwineGless Fri 04-Jan-13 11:40:47

I'm in for Shredding too

LucyVFood Fri 04-Jan-13 11:44:15

Definitely for Shredding, I've just ordered the DVD through so might be a few days before I can join you. I'm a tiny bit concerned though, it sounds pretty hardcore and I'm very overweight unfit!

Tooimmature if you do that I might join you - I have been crap at exercising lately, and find it a real struggle in the dark evenings after work. I also hate exercising indoors, but I the shred challenges me to do something other than running, and support from others would definitely help!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 04-Jan-13 11:52:12

[round of applause] and thanks to MulledwineGless. A job very well done!

Morning all you lovely losers!! A very warm welcome to all the new folks, hope you find this WOE as beneficial as we have.

I can definitely agree with the posters who found this WOE had many other benefits aside from weight loss. For me, on the last Bootcamp, the biggest pluses were more stable energy and mood throughout the day (no 4pm slump) and the reduction in PMS symptoms and period pain. I had hardly any bloating or stabby tendencies. I was surprised one day to find my period had started as I had had NONE of the usual temper/sore boobs/tum on spin cycle feelings I used to get. I have my period now and after a carby ish new year I am definitely feeling more pain than before. Yet another reason to get back on the LC wagon!!

if you underline questions in your posts, makes it easier for us to spot and help you if we can

TooImmatureMincePies Fri 04-Jan-13 12:02:37

Okay, I've started a Shredding Bootcamp thread [http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/big_slim_whatever_weight_loss_club/1650798-New-Year-Shred-Bootcamp here]]. Not just for Shredders, but for anyone starting to exercise along with the low-carbing.

TooImmatureMincePies Fri 04-Jan-13 12:03:01

Bollocks. here blush

EwanHoozami Fri 04-Jan-13 12:03:15

I have hip joints made of rubber bands and spanners so no Shred for me but pre-spanners I found it really effective and easy to fit into my day.

I used two 4xpacks of tuna instead of weights grin

taffyandteenytaffy way back on page 3, that looks great!!

mumat39 Fri 04-Jan-13 12:16:44

MulledWine, wow! Those recipes look great. Thankyou.

tooimmature do you have a Lidl or aldi near you? They have much better range and choice of LC options and much cheaper. I now shop much more at Lidl than Tesco and found my bill went down a lot. Am also good friends with my local butcher now who can advise on how to cook cheaper cuts of meat. I am spoiled tho as live in NE scotland so fab Aberdeen Angus meat is de riguer here!

prettybird Fri 04-Jan-13 12:17:17

Back on the PC, so adding my name to the list (again wink)

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ZzzenAgain
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WomenandChickensFirst
sparkly peach
Lavenderhoney
NellVarnish
TheAccidentalExhibitionist
Frenchfries22
HavingAnOffDay
coldethyl
CaramelWaffle
CJCregg
HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey
halfthesize
GuyMartinsSideburns
Pinot
Rooobs
Chocberry
Thekitchenfairy
Mudwiggle
DharmaBumpkin
TaffyandTeenyTaffy
LucyVFood
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Janx
Kracken
Livelongandprosper
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Lifeisontheup
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BlackAffronted Fri 04-Jan-13 12:24:35

Easing myself in today, was too eager to get started to wait for tomorrow!

Breakfast was 2 eggs mashed with butter, lunch is going to be satay chicken with salad leaves & Kewpie mayo. Dinner tonight is sausages with cabbage & leeks in cream. Yum!

TooImmatureMincePies Fri 04-Jan-13 12:28:22

There must be a Lidl somewhere around. The Lidl website says there's one 4.8 miles away. I shall make a special trip next weekend! Thanks Toomuch! I'm from NE Scotland, btw - if you're anywhere near Insch/Huntly, I can recommend my dad a fab local organic chicken farm.

BlackAffronted Fri 04-Jan-13 12:28:39

TooMuch, Im in the NE scotland too, though not as north as Aberdeen smile Im in the land of the smokies smile

MulledwineGless Fri 04-Jan-13 12:31:07

Oooh Toomuch- lots of people for our next NE LC meet up wink

Rooobs Fri 04-Jan-13 12:31:21

oh well done MulledWineGless! thanks

BIWI I'm definitely eating enough (and if I wasn't it would be a first!)

yesterday I had:

3 scrambled eggs with a wee bit of grated cheese (probably a tablespoon)
chorizo and boiled eggs salad
steamed haddock with pak choi and broccoli (dressed with oil)

snack: 2 boiled eggs mashed with 1 heaped teaspoon of hellmans mayo.

1.5 litres of water

oh, and, one little square of chocolate in a FUCKIT moment when I was stabby at bedtime blush blush blush

I sabotaged myself didn't I? angry

thanks mulledwinegless for recipes. That's dedication! Are you changing your name to sparkling watergless or some such for January???!! wink

KoKoBear Fri 04-Jan-13 12:37:10

Have been coaxed out of lurking by all your success and support! Look forward to starting properly on Monday.

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Rooobs Fri 04-Jan-13 12:39:07

BTW, can I just say how brilliant it is to have a low carb recipe section here in the MN recipe finder?!

So often I google for low carb recipes (and books) and then I read them thinking, "hang on, that's got loads of flour in it" or "that's covered in honey!" etc.

And, I'm also pleased that it's in UK measurements as so often low carb recipes are in cups and then also include unavailable ingredients.

So, nice one thanks to whoever sorted that!

waves madly to tooimmature and blackaffronted helloooooo, how lovely to have some other folk nearby! My local Lidl is Inverurie so not too far away!! Should have guessed from your name black that you were north of the border!!

winegless yippee we will have the first (and best) meet up I bet! smile

rooobs one square is not total sabotage, just get back on the vibe today and it'll be fine! Really, stay with us and don't punish yourself!

PostBellumBugsy Fri 04-Jan-13 12:49:17

Roobs, if it was just one tiny square, then no you haven't sabotaged yourself at all - BUT - don't do it again! wink

Somewhere, we should list all the advantages of doing low carb, other than just weight loss, so I'll make a start (bear in mind, this is if you stick with it & push through any initial adjustments)

Less or no farting
Spots diminish
Hunger pangs go
You stop thinking about food
More energy
No post lunch saggy feeling

Doshusallie Fri 04-Jan-13 12:58:18

thanks winegless that's very kind

halfthesize Fri 04-Jan-13 13:02:32

thanks wine

Im getting confused with the threads... Is this the main one for now? &#128516;

Rooobs Fri 04-Jan-13 13:10:49

Yes Princess the other one got full and BIWI will start her bootcamp weekly threads on Monday 7th.

So this is just a continuation of the "New Year Low Carb Bootcamp" thread.

Does that make sense?

Stylelostinlabour Fri 04-Jan-13 13:11:49

Quick Question?

_Can I eat baby bel and how many?_

Doshusallie Fri 04-Jan-13 13:13:14

Yes Style - I often have a couple for a snack. I would say 2 a day really....??

Doshusallie Fri 04-Jan-13 13:13:47

DH just made Stilton and Broccolli soup for lunch - I added extra stilton grin - it is lush

Rooobs Fri 04-Jan-13 13:14:16

[someone correct me if I'm wrong]

full fat baby bel are fine. Just don't go mad as dairy can stall some people as I understand it.

MulledwineGless Fri 04-Jan-13 13:16:55

Cheers all - I was only copy and pasting and some recipes didn't have times or how many servings etc so may need tweaking.

MNHQ have emailed back and are having a look at moving the non low carb recipes. Could be a bit confusing for those who are just starting on the LC journey

Thanks for flowers but really no need blush

MulledwineGless Fri 04-Jan-13 13:17:59

PS toomuchheuch I feel a name change coming on but no chance of sparkling water!! I'm not doing the no alcohol thing completely. Got a 40th and my DSis wedding on Burns night

I need a new name for January now too! All suggestions on a LC theme welcome, folks!

NoveltySlippers Fri 04-Jan-13 13:28:48

Erk! First eating out crisis.

Am in a Subways and have just gone for the meatballs which I'm eating without the bread baguette. (8 meatballs)

Highly processed I know, and probably full of sugar.... Do you think I've done much damage?

(On the plus side, have now finished and feel so much lighter having not eaten the bread!)

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 04-Jan-13 13:31:35

You should be fine, Novelty - just keep your carbs low for the rest of the day and drink plenty of water.

It's all part of learning how to incorporate LC into your day-to-day life. Sadly, eating when you're out and about isn't always easy! But at least you didn't eat the bread grin

Well done on the recipe wine!

How about GlessWineMoreWater or JustOneSmallGless?

NoveltySlippers Fri 04-Jan-13 13:44:48

Yes, I felt (relatively) virtuous rejecting the bread! (But importantly....didn't even feel deprived!) smile

sybilfaulty Fri 04-Jan-13 13:52:18

I love JustonesmallGless smile. Great name.

Big salad here. Now off to watch HSM with kids before their friends arrive.

Bessie123 Fri 04-Jan-13 13:54:19

Help. I just want sugar, sugar, sugar. I am on day 3, will I get over this soon?

Btw, don't try that braised cabbage recipe with Kale - disgusting.

Kale wasn't on the veg list but i assumed it is ok..?

I'm so in, something must be done about this extra 3 stone that is following me about. And I have a wedding dress to get into! A friend and I have already agree on no-sugar no-booze for January so it's not a terrible leap...

Someone mentioned Hellman's - in my no-sugar quest I have been searching high and low for mayo with no sugar in it, Hellman's does so I would have thought better to avoid? I eventually found one french brand in Waitrose. It might even be easier to make your own!

So today I had scrambled egg with chopped up ham for breakfast, and just now a big salad with lettuce, cucumber, a tomato, spring onion, mayo and some little cubes of cheddar. Meatballs tonight with shredded buttered cabbage instead of spaghetti!

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mumat39 Fri 04-Jan-13 14:17:05

Stupid question alert

Ok, so I admitted on the previous thread that I don't cook for myself and DP and we have lived on ready meals for a long long time.

I am trying to get my head around how much cooking\washing up you all do. I don't have that many pans. Well I do, but half are for what I cook for my DC as we have had cross contamination issues with foods that DD is allergic to being cooked in the same pan as stuff she can eat. And I also wash all their stuff by hand as our dishwasher is shit doesn't clean things very well. I do cook for them most days, but often batch cook so that on a daily basis it's just rice, or pasta or sausages etc.

We use a dishwasher for our stuff but may need to run it once every 2 or 3 days.

Anyway, assuming I'm an alien who has just landed in the kitchen, what would you suggest I need to do, to get into the whole cooking thing?

I have another stupid question coming up so apologies for this. I am so embarrassed thati don't know the answer. sad

TheNameisNOTZiggy Fri 04-Jan-13 14:17:36

Thx for adding me. Looking forward to this. Anyone know if I need to adapt the diet as I am bf?

mumat39 Fri 04-Jan-13 14:22:52

2nd stupid question

Sorry.

Ok, so I'd like torts the cabbage recipe up thread but my mum taught me that I should peel the cabbage leaves and then slice them after washing and checking that there are no bugs or nasties in them. That recipe just says to cut the cabbage into 8 after peeling off any not so nice leaves. Should it be washed?

Also, on cookery program's I often see chefs just throwing ingredients into whatever is being cooked, sometimes without washing it at all. Things like herbs, spinach etc. again, my mum taught me to was everything. She and my gran also would sort through things like rice, lentils, seeds and other dry things to remove grit etc. I think all that fussing is maybe why I don't like cooking as it all seems such a faff

What do you all do?

Thanks again and so sorry for the silly questions. <goes back to corner with pointy Dunce hat> sad

mumat39 Fri 04-Jan-13 14:27:29

Torts = to try the cabbage recipe blush

captainmummy Fri 04-Jan-13 14:37:51

Mumat - the great thing (one of the great things!) about this WOE is the simplicity. No (or less) faffing about with ingredients - just fry your meat, or chuck into slow-cooker, or roast. Add veg. Cream if you like. It's real food.

You can go on to more adventurous stuff (like cream cheese pancakes, or sliced/sauted/stuffed stuff afterwards.) We are having cauliflower cheese tonight - part-cooked cauli, covered in cream (might chuck in cream cheese if I have any) and covered in cheese. Bake. Served with a chunk of ham, and broc.

Re washing cabbage - a white cabbage grown in UK will normally be insect/mud free, but you can rinse when cut up if you like. I eat veg as it is - if no visible mud/grubs, i eat it! But then i grow a lot of my own,and get used to a bit of crunch dirt.

hurricanewyn Fri 04-Jan-13 14:40:33

mumat - I have a well stocked kitchen, but find the three things I use most are a frying pan, roasting tray and deep pan.

Re: the cabbage. I'm a lazy cook and wouldn't bother washing a cabbage apart from a quick once over, but I'm sure others would do more. I do soak rice when I cook it for the kids, otherwise it's too starchy and clumps.

hurricanewyn Fri 04-Jan-13 14:42:14

Ooh & thanks for the cheap snacky ideas upthread thanks

MulledwineGless Fri 04-Jan-13 14:48:39

mumat39
Seriously the slow cooker and frying pan are your friend!

I missed your DD allergies - what does she have?

Lets try and work out a meal plan and make it easy for you to give them pasta or rice and you have fried veggies instead

PlatoonBuffoon Fri 04-Jan-13 14:50:00

Day 3 for me and I have been ravenous! Eating like a total glutton, but all low carb and have lost 3 pounds. Go me!

So remind me, when ketosis kicks in I will stop wanting to eat everything in sight won't I? Or perhaps it's just sheer greed?

PlatoonBuffoon Fri 04-Jan-13 14:53:09

Oh and another one here who doesn't really wash veg. Unless the dirt is visible, then I might!

Lifeisontheup Fri 04-Jan-13 14:59:09

My DH has lost 3lbs and I have only lost 0.75lb sad in two days.

He's tried to make me feel better by saying he's much more overweight than me which is true but it still makes me cross. Still onwards and downwards.

Same here, no washing unless obviously dirty, sometimes a quick rinse but that is it. My gran would be appalled! Mumat can I ask about your dishwasher? Is the salt and rinse aid filled up? Also never use the speed/Eco programmes on older models they don't clean anything. On the new machines the Eco option takes much longer (mine takes 2.5 hours) because it uses the least energy and water on that option as opposed to the old days when Eco just meant quicker shorter wash). Only asking as I hate washing up and love my dishwasher. You're doing really well to even be looking into recipes so just take it slowly, try a few things and see how you go. I second telling us what allergies your DD has and see if we can give you some easy ideas

Doshusallie Fri 04-Jan-13 14:59:39

The only thing I really wash is leeks as they tend to have grit in their ends.

ziggy I don't think you need to make any adaptations as far as I am aware, just eat lots if you are hungry to make sure you have plenty of calories for you both.

MulledwineGless Fri 04-Jan-13 15:12:08

PlatoonBuffoon - I had two boiled eggs with mayo for breakfast and only just felt hungry so had chicken and buttered leeks and cabbage.
So eat until you are properly in ketosis then you honestly won't feel hungry between meals.
Its a bloody revelation thats what it is.

When I have done previous "diets" i have constantly thought about food, grazed on food. However this WOE is like a weight off my shoulders

mumat39 Fri 04-Jan-13 15:16:33

Thanks everyone. I am seriously like a deer in headlights when it comes to food.

Anyway, DD is allergic to:
Wheat
Eggs
Legumes, including, peanuts, peas, soya, chick peas, mung beans, lentils, etc etc etc.
Tree nuts -all
Sesame
Rapeseed oil
Celery
Ginger
Leeks, possibly.

I think there are a few others but can't remember what at the moment.

I'm allergic to some fish including all shellfish. Violent nasty reactions have made me averse to fish.

We don't have some of the stuff in the house at all, like eggs, nuts, celery and others as these are 'sticky' which means that they are really hard to clean away.

I feel reallysorryfor DD as she has so many allergies and has an awful cook for a mother so ends up eating the same things day in day out. She's 5 now but has had these since we first started weaning her as pretty much everything tried, she reacted to. It's very sad really. sad

Thanks again for your help.

mumat39 Fri 04-Jan-13 15:21:50

MrsHP, hello. Our dishwasher is a Bosch and is only about 2 years old. It hasn't ever really worked properly. I used to be good about topping up salt and rinse aid, but we have recently had a water softener fitted recently so haven't since then as we were told it wasn't necessary. The trouble is that it never really dries things very well and some thing always comes out stuck with something, r something, like the bottom of a cup, always has dirty water sitting in the top of it, so there are always some food residues on something and I'm too scared o wash the Dc's stuff in it.

Thanks for your help.

mumat39 Fri 04-Jan-13 15:23:36

Oh and the other days had yogurt for breakfast and had a really awful reaction to it, so I think my dairy intolerance has got worse. I am still going to try that cabbage recipe with cream as I'm hoping cooking the cream might help.

Mumat39 - not stupid questions

I do rinse veg that is going to be cooked, but I wouldn't go so far as to check really thoroughly for grit unless it's come from my mum's garden (not because I think it's dirtier, but because it's not been washed during a packaging process which would remove a lot of dirt).

Stuff to be eaten raw I do wash thoroughly (lettuce etc, I have a salad spinner which dries it well).

In the case of the cabbage I would remove the outer leaves but wouldn't bother washing inner ones - it's tightly packed and grit won't have got in, and I think most chemicals would be on the outside only. Plus it's going to be cooked through.

Spinach I do wash, as the water that clings to the leaves is enough to wilt it in. It's up to you how thoroughly you want to check stuff, but I haven't died yet and I definitely wouldn't bother checking every leaf - that does seem rather a faff.

I would never wash meat, as I understand that this can spray raw meat juices over the kitchen

On your kitchen equipment question, there is just dp and me, and we don't have a dishwasher. I would suggest getting yourself a decent frying pan (Teflon or similar), and a couple of roasting pans at the minimum (for roasted veg or meat) as well as a Pyrex dish (that you would cook something like shepherd's pie in) and maybe two or three saucepans of different sizes. This would set you up to cook most recipes that I use at least.

On the washing up front, dp does still eat carbs, so there is possibly a little more washing up than there would be if he weren't. In addition to crockery, there might be a meat pan and a veg pan/saucepan, plus a rice or potato pan/saucepan (also maybe a colander). However, I don't cook every day as I will often cook a large amount of meat and have it cold with salad for a couple of day afterwards, so the washing up for subsequent days is minimal.

The dishes that tend to create more washinnup are things like moussaka, where there would be a pan for he roasted aubergines, another for tehe meat mixture, another for the egg/ricotta topping, and then the baking dish where it's all assembled. But again, that would lay more than one night so I wouldn't have as much to wash up the next day.

Sorry for the rather long and rambling answer but I hope that helps!

MulledwineGless Fri 04-Jan-13 15:29:53

Ok

So
Spag bol
Chilli
Shepherds pie
Chicken casserole
Shin of beef casserole
Roast gammon

No fish at all?

ChristmasJubilee Fri 04-Jan-13 15:32:00

I wash everything to the point of sterilisation. I am beastie phobic. I soak cauliflower and broccoli in salted water for half an hour before cooking to chase the beasties out.

Mumat39 I don't know how you do it, dealing with all those allergies - do you mind me asking are they allergies that will stay with her all her life or ones she might grow out of do the allergy doctors think? wineglass has suggested some dishes to start with.

Re the dishwasher, I would always use salt and rinse aid whatever the water softness. I also find things that flip around end up with water in them (the white water with soap/salt in it). I try to wedge anything that might flip down a bit (not always successfully). I would try it on the hottest longest wash you have and when finished open door and leave for a bit to dry/cool down. That works for our Bosch ...

colette Fri 04-Jan-13 15:40:54

many thanks Mulledwine thanks

I'll add roasts to that list as well - I find they cook you enough meat for a few meals and you can accessorise with different veg!

MulledwineGless Fri 04-Jan-13 15:52:37

You could batch cook most of the above recipes so do double or triple the quantities to save on washing up and you can buy the foil freezer containers.
There are some really nice recipes with eggs too but maybe keep those for a dinner with you and DP. You need to keep it simple or you won't stick to it.

If doing spag bol for everyone, get a courgette and cut into thin strips and fry for around 5 mins until soft. Or get a potato peeler and peel it into strips then fry. Everyone else gets pasta and same sauce.

Same for chilli - one pot of meat sauce for everyone. Make the cauliflower rice (just grate it and microwave to start although there is an egg fried cauli rice recipe which is yum)

Lifeisontheup Fri 04-Jan-13 15:56:02

Love the idea of accessorising a roast, have a vision of a roast chicken with a sparkly clutch bag. That's made my day a lot more cheerful MrsHercule

I agree with glessy that batch cooking would probably be easiest, as you could have something that you can all eat whih you then mix and match with veg/carbs according to requirements, and you would only need to do a big cook every two or three days, plus have homemade "ready meals" in the freezer if needed

I also agree that it sounds really tough being so vigilant about the allergies and cross-contamination - I think I would probably have gone down the ready meal route too

EwanHoozami Fri 04-Jan-13 15:58:36

OOoohh we have a LC bride <buys hat> When's the big day, littlemisstan?

Mumat39 that must be incredibly hard to deal with, I'm not surprised you stick to the same safe stuff for DD. We'll find a way to make low-carbing work for you. My DCs are being high maintenance at the mo (HOW dare they when I a trying to MN wink ) but I'll be back with some easy recipe ideas. Cauli cheese springs immediately to mind as something you can all eat that avoids her allergies. It can be made with just cream and grated cheese for the sauce instead of adding flour. Lovely on it's own or with a couple of sausages or chops. do not fear the chop - piece of piss to cook.

Ive got a couple of friends coming round tomorrow evening for a few drinks, should I cancel/postpone? Would it really screw me up/what would be the best option?

Thank you

Is there such a thing as egg-free mayo that's not too carby? Agree with mrshp that a roast is great, plus the leftovers for a few days afterwards is the food of kings (I love cold meat with mayo and salad, whih is why I ask about egg-free mayo as I don't know whether you could have normal mayo in the house)

captainmummy Fri 04-Jan-13 16:03:33

So it does look like meat and veg might be the best way forward with you and your dd? Cheaper cuts, casseroled in a slow-cook, or roast a whole chicken or two, and use it for several meals, hot and cold. Can you give us an idea of what you usually cook for her?

I think the veg you buy these days is so blasted with insecticide/fertilisers/washed after harvest that its unusual to find any dirt - leeks, as Doshu says, do tend to have dirt in, but only at the ends. Anything homegrown or from farmers markets etc will probably need rinsing.

captainmummy Fri 04-Jan-13 16:08:01

Oh X-post with everyone!

Willie - there is a non-egg mayo, think it'smade with soya, i've seen it in the 'free from' range at Tesco. Not sure how carby it is tho.

GuyMartin - just drinks shouldn't be a problem. Serve nuts, and olives and squares of cheese? Try making the cheese-crackers - just grated cheese, melted in a heap in a medium oven. Others can have bowls of crisps and biscuits.

HumphreyCobbler Fri 04-Jan-13 16:09:44

hello everyone

I have hit rather a brick wall as have developed horrible tonsillitis. This is entirely my own fault as the other day I proudly boasted that I had never ever had tonsillitis hmm

All I have swallowed is hot lemon and manuka honey. Not very lc. And I have been given an antibiotic so that should bugger up my digestion for a week or so...

Am planning to be entirely better by the 7th so can bootcamp properly.

mumat39 Fri 04-Jan-13 16:20:14

Thanks Willie, that's really helpful. Your reply isn't rambling at all. It actually makes a lot of sense and knowing what sort of pans you use is really helpful. Thank you. thanks

Mulled wine, I could eat cod in breadcrumbs but the thought of most fish just makes me heave a lot little. Sorry.

I do make a lamb mince basic chilli type thing for the dc which they have with either rice or pasta. I made a beef version yesterday which my dc just won't eat but apart from the tomato purée and onion it's pretty low carb so I'll be eating that.

Thanks again for your help.
Xxx

mumat39 Fri 04-Jan-13 16:27:42

Hi again Mrs HP

When DD was 8 months old we were oral that she should outgrow her allergies by the time she was 2. at 2 they said 3, at 3 they said 5 and at the appointment just before she was 5 they said she still might? S I've been waiting and waiting. But no such luck so far. In fact I ate a sandwich the other day and I'm always really careful and eat t over the kitchen sink, but when I got DD out of the bath she had a few hives appear. It's a nightmare, literally. I have to think about what I've eaten before I can even give her a kiss. sad

Sorry everyone to make this all 'woe is me' but it's really not much fun at all. On the plus side though we hardly ever eat out so I don't need to worry about temptations like that smile

Thanks again.

janx Fri 04-Jan-13 16:29:03

Have been easing into LC but did have 5 chips with lunchshock. Took the kids out to a cafe and had lovely chicken with Greek salad and then a load of chips arrived!
Anyone recommend some scales? Bit broke ATM but want to see progress when I start properly on Monday

MulledwineGless Fri 04-Jan-13 16:35:07

Mumat39 - we are here to help! A roast chicken can last 3 meals and make a soup so that's good start.
You have got to find food you enjoy so if you don't like fish don't eat it! Trying to think of options
Have you planned for the next week?

Doshusallie Fri 04-Jan-13 16:36:45

mumat39 that does sound incredibly hard, but you sound like you are doing all the right things.

Just had a snack of corned beef lettuce and mayo "sandwiches". Really hits the spot. Also had a handful of walnuts. Am finding I am still getting hungry, but then again lunch wasn't huge. Be better when I'm out and about more back at work rather than hanging round the house feeding my face. Am also trying to stave off the desire for salted peanuts I know I will have as soon as I get to the pub tonight with my family, particularly as I am not drinking!!! [booooooooooriiiiing]

mumat39 Fri 04-Jan-13 16:43:54

Thanks everyone so so much. You're all lovely and very kind.

I really think this woe could work as apart from eggs, the meat and veg and few fruits sounds perfect. Dd wasn't on dairy until recently as it used to make her skin worse and that would make her more sensitive to her allergies, but she has recently gt into eating cheese so the cauliflower cheese recipe sounds lovely.

I'll start adding salt back I to the dishwasher. I find it's the bottom of upturned cups that collect water so I do try and place things so they don't but hadn't thought that they may get flipped during the wash.

Re the mayo, I think that the egg one should be okay. It's just the cooking of eggs that I think would be the problem.

Re the cooking thing, DD is actually allergic to the diet I had growing up. I'm Indian so grew up on chappatis, lentils, mung beans etc sothe things I grew up learning to cook were those foods, so in a way I do have to learn to cook again. The roast idea sounds great and simple. DP has a big appetite so will have to train him so we do have leftovers. Cooking evey 2 -3 days sounds doable.

Could I use mashed swede instead of celeriac for a shepherds pie topping? Celeriac is the root of celery which I didn't know until today? Could I also use swede to make chips and crisps?

Thanks again everyone. Xxx

cocolepew Fri 04-Jan-13 16:45:07

Thanks for the recipes mulled thats amazing!

I had fried bacon and egg this morning at 8 and by 11.20 my stomach was rumbling shock, had salad and salmon.
Going to have chicken and beansprouts tonight.

Question sorry blush _if I was to make a simple cheese sauce could I just grate cheese into cream? Do I have to keep stirring it?_

Rooobs Fri 04-Jan-13 16:45:45

mumat39 what a nightmare for you all! No wonder you're at a loss when it comes to cooking.

I was just thinking, might it be useful to start a separate thread and we could help you meal plan? Just so that you don't have to read through all this guff to refer back to information you need? grin

Although you are most welcome to discuss it here too of course!

Rooobs Fri 04-Jan-13 16:46:31

I've just had a slice of pork belly (quick roasted, I like it chewy!) and low carb cauliflower cheese. It was quite rich actually...

Thankyou smile should I stick to vodka and diet something, or could I have red wine instead?

Ooh Rooobs I could go for that now! Yum! I dont know what Im having tonight, not sure what I fancy just yet confused and dont have a lot in until dh does the shop later!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 04-Jan-13 16:48:49

Cocolepew - if the cream is hot when you add the cheese it should melt into it. No stirring needed, albeit a final one to make sure it's all mixed together. You could also just dump the cheese into the cream and put the whole lot in the microwave?

mumat39 - glad to see others have got here first to help you! Sounds like it's not easy for you or your DD. Cauliflower makes a good mash, as does swede - perhaps they would also work well mixed together?

Rooobs Fri 04-Jan-13 16:49:30

cocolepew I've just done this with cauliflower for the first time.

I heated some philadelphia (full fat) then slackened it with a dash of cream. I then added some ricotta and grated gruyere and I think the gruyere made it seize up a bit, though it did add flavour.

I think next time I might try philly, cream and mascarpone and maybe grate cheese on top for browning. Trial and error for the right texture/flavour combo.

mumat39 Fri 04-Jan-13 16:49:41

Hi again Mulled.

I'm just trying to get my head around how to do things at the moment. I haven't planned for next week, but I will do a shop tomorrow and stock up on some cabbage, cauliflower, pâté, cucumber, chicken for roasting, sparkling water, crem cheese that is okay for nut allergies as I don't think she can have Philly, and some other meat.

Should I be aiming. Plan exactly what to eat each day? Is that what you mean by planning?

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 04-Jan-13 16:51:56

I think with all the issues you are dealing with, planning each meal per day would be a good way to start, mumat39 - even though it may sound painful/boring, it will mean that you have everything to hand and will know what you're doing. It's always important on this WOE to make sure you are prepared, anyway, so it's a good discipline to get into.

mumat39 Fri 04-Jan-13 16:54:55

Thanks Roobs. I think the recipes I've seen s far will probably keep me going for a good few days. I'm hoping once I get a plan sorted for a week I can just follow it weeke after week for forever. grin

BIWI, I don't do thinking of obvious things very well. The cauliflower/swede mash sounds yummy. Thanks.

mumat39 Fri 04-Jan-13 16:55:56

BIWI, thanks. Should I start another thread to ask for help about that?

I plan on a weekly basis, because I shop on a weekly basis. I shopped yesterday, so for this week:

Thursday: slow cooker stroganoff
Friday: salmon cooked in butter with salad and mayo
Saturday: low carb moussaka
Sunday: left over moussaka
Monday: cook chicken pieces in butter, to have with salad and mayo
Tuesday: leftover chicken with salad and mayo
Wednesday: same as Tuesday (I don't mind having the same meal several times, but I know others would get bored!)

Dp is actually allergic to chicken (!) but not so badly that I can't eat it myself fortunately. I will cook it when he is out on Monday, then on Tuesday and Wednesday he will probably have omelette or pasta, whatever he fancies

Ruprekt Fri 04-Jan-13 17:05:32

OK.....am completely new to this (being a WW failure and always counting points!)

What do I need to know?

What can I eat for breakfast?

Where is the list of what I can eat?

And cream and cheese is good???? confused

Mumat stay here you'll be all organised soon! Put everything face down in dishwasher only light things/plastics might flip. I am going to set you a challenge that by the end of bootcamp you give us a delicious low carb curry/Indian recipe! I bet you have loads locked away in your head that a little tweak would make perfect for us! What do you reckon, you have 10 weeks!!!!

Hi ruptket in the OP there is a link to the soreadsheet on it are tabs with the info or at the start on this thread on page 1 look for the posts by BIWI! Shout if you can't find them...

cocolepew Fri 04-Jan-13 17:15:07

Thanks for cheese sauce ideas. I like the bung it in the microwave one grin

I'm eating chicken fried in butter and Lazy chilie with a beansprout stirfry. It's bloody lovely.

MulledwineGless Fri 04-Jan-13 17:20:10

Ruprekt - have just messaged you back.
All the rules are in the spreadsheet in the OP as well as the allowed veg.

Bootcamp is to break your sugar addiction hence why it is strict for two weeks.

Ok I have to fess up - I have had a chocolate.
It was mindless - DC were eating one as we had visitors and sharing them out to get rid of the damn things
I popped one in without thinking - AND I DIDN'T LIKE IT
Far too sweet and yukky.

We are on a roll ladies - I'm so over the chocolate thing after Christmas debacle.

Lamb stew for tea with brussel sprouts I think.
Just need to find something that DH will eat with it - baked potato maybe then am sorted.

MulledwineGless Fri 04-Jan-13 17:22:25

mumat39
meal planner
This is a link on the MN site to a blank meal planner that you can use and print off.

Good luck and keep posting.
It sounds like it has been horrific for you - DH has allergies which we work round but he is an adult. BF has children with allergies so I have some empathy with you and know how bad it has been for her. It CAN get better and you can enjoy food again

GibbsGirl Fri 04-Jan-13 17:26:12

Have been lurking, but inspired to join, so adding myself to the list.

Have a question about soya I've been dairy free for ages as milk/cream/cheese make me feel ill (weirdly cooked butter doesn't), but is soya OK on this WOE? Use it in tea as well as sauces. Thanks

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BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 04-Jan-13 17:34:26

Ruprekt - welcome!

What do you need to know? Well, the best thing to do is to look at this thread . Admittedly it is very long (!), but all the key information you need will be found there.

[[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmNIskihgXotdFVPcF9zWUhIal9BbTl5SnlTM3BlWVE#gid=0 Here is the Spreadsheet of Wonderfulness that the lovely WillieWaggler masterminds for us - it's from the last Bootcamp, but if you look at the tabs at the bottom you will find the rules of Bootcamp, as well as the list of allowed veg ]

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 04-Jan-13 17:35:32
RatherBeOnThePiste Fri 04-Jan-13 17:35:59

Help!

RatherBeOnThePiste Fri 04-Jan-13 17:36:47

Just found out we are going for Chinese nosh tonight, I am doing so well, on Boot Camp and back in ketosis (pretty sure I am ) What on earth can I have?

RatherBeOnThePiste Fri 04-Jan-13 17:37:02

Glass of water?

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 04-Jan-13 17:38:44

GibbsGirl - I don't know much about soya, and I assume you mean soya milk? If so, Alpro is 2.8g carbs per 100 ml, compared with 5g for Sainsbury's semi skimmed milk, so it much lower in carbs.

halfthesize Fri 04-Jan-13 17:39:49

Eve all and wow so many newbies.

fantastic idea re underlining questions to highlightsmile and really loving the name change ideas MrsHP for winegless.

I have had an ok day, busy all day which always helps. Really need to get water intake back to what it was, as very low at the momenthmm

RatherBeOnThePiste Fri 04-Jan-13 17:40:11

<sob>

halfthesize Fri 04-Jan-13 17:41:56

Whats wrong Pisteconfused

LucyVFood Fri 04-Jan-13 17:42:10

Duck? Stir fried broccoli?

halfthesize Fri 04-Jan-13 17:43:29

just read piste water sounds about right for a chinese, we went the other week and they had nothing for mesad

MulledwineGless Fri 04-Jan-13 17:43:49

Pistey - Chinese is a bit of a problem with low carb.
Is it an all you can eat buffet type thing? Or will you have to choose actual meals?
Duck pancakes without the pancakes is Ok.
Blackbean sauce is probably lowish carb

Good luck

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 04-Jan-13 17:44:16

Pistey - if we go for a Chinese, one of the things I go for is lettuce wraps - usually a mixture of pork/mushrooms and veg, with some hoisin sauce (which you should really try and avoid --if you have more willpower than me--), which will come with a pile of iceberg lettuce leaves for you to wrap it in.

Sometimes they have dry spare-ribs on the menu, which I presume are going to be a lot better than those coated in sweet, gloopy sauce

Obviously avoid anything in batter/sweet sauces; sizzling dishes tend to be good, as they rely on the sizzling for most of the flavour and tend to have a bit less sauce (although obviously this is hugely variable according to the restaurant).

Instead of rice/noodles, I look at what veg they have - if they can do you stir-fried beansprouts that is a good alternative; ours does stir-fried celery and waterchestnuts, which is yummy.

Ultimately, though, I think you just have to accept that it's going to be a carbier than you would prefer meal.

And we don't start properly till Monday, so you have the weekend to get it out of your system!

Evening all.. Thought i'd have a read of the thread, there's sooo many posts!

Is anyone else bootcamping already or am i on my own?

We did the food shop this afternoon so i've got some goodies now :D, I've roasted chicken drumsticks in italian herbs, boiled some, eggs and got bits to make a chicken stew...I'm sorted! Oh ad i bought some celery so i thought i'd grate some cheddar inside and maybe wrap in salami?!

Not much eaten today :-\ Late lunch- small portion of broccoli cheese ( made the cheese sauce)
Dinner- Prawns, bacon and mushrooms fried in chilli flakes and jerk seasoning on a mixed leaf and cucumber salad with 1 chopped slice of salami smile

BIWI Those lettuce wraps sound yummy... i wonder if i could make those at home for a snack...what fillings would be yummy?!

halfthesize Fri 04-Jan-13 17:48:41

princess Im not bootcamping till Monday as am hosting a dinner party on Saturday eve.wink that dinner sounds yummy..

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 04-Jan-13 17:48:55

Any sandwich fillings would work, Princess - but needs to be iceberg lettuce or possibly something like Romaine, as they have the firmest leaves

Half enjoy the dinner party smile
BIWI I just bought 2 bags of little gem sad I suppose tho i could still put fillings in the leaves! when i've ran out i'll buy some iceberg!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 04-Jan-13 18:11:33

Here's a recipe I put on the recipe thread a while ago. It was to stuff cabbage leaves with, but no reason why you couldn't do it in lettuce as well.

Oriental stuffed cabbage parcels

I made this up tonight, and it was yummy. This quantity will make enough for 4 generous portions. Will try and be as precise as I can about measurements:

1 large savoy cabbage (or 2 smaller ones)

1 pack 4 pork steaks (currently on offer at Sainsbury - the fatty ones), cut into small dice
1 tin water chestnuts, chopped
1 green chilli, finely chopped
2 cloves garlic, finely chopped
1 inch piece fresh ginger, finely chopped
1 large spring onion or 2 ordinary sized ones, sliced
4 baby sweetcorn, sliced
4 mushrooms, finely chopped
packet fresh coriander, finely chopped

light soy sauce (a good quality brand like Kikkoman)
2 teaspoons Chinese 5 Spice powder
black pepper
sesame oil

Put the meat and the vegetables (not the cabbage!) into a large plastic/Tupperware box. Sprinkle with the Chinese 5 Spice powder, then add a generous sloosh of soy sauce and sesame oil. (I'm guessing at least 4 tablespoons of each) and season with black pepper. (Don't add any salt - the soy is salty enough). Leave to marinade for at least half an hour.

Heat a wok until it is very hot, then tip the meat mixture in and stir fry for about 5 minutes, until the meat is no longer pink. Leave to cool

Then prepare the cabbage - cut the stalk end off, and peel away the leaves. Cut away the bottom part of the tough stalk - this will make a sort of V-shaped cut up the centre of each leaf. You will need 2-3 leaves per person, and they need to be a reasonably decent size, hence why you may need 2 cabbages. Blanch the leaves for 2 minutes, then drain and leave to cool.

When everything is cool enough to handle, stuff the leaves with the meat mixture and put the rolled up parcels into a steamer. Steam for 10 minutes.

Serve with shiratake noodles shop.waiyeehong.com/food-ingredients/noodles/other-noodles/konnyaku-hot-pot-yam-noodles

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 04-Jan-13 18:13:59

Little Gem leaves will be too small to really get much filling in, Princess - although you could use them.

I've been just generally low carbing since Wednesday, rather than Bootcamping, and am recognising that by getting stuck into a gin and tonic now!

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Do you lot want me to be tubby forever! grin

MulledwineGless Fri 04-Jan-13 18:20:10

Chin chin BIWI- joining you after I nip to Aldi to stock up.

Shh just don't tell Dosh she's doing really well on her dry January

BlackAffronted Fri 04-Jan-13 18:22:31

Ok, turned out to be day 1 for me )instead of tomorrow) and I have had ...

2 eggs mashed with butter
3 chicken drumsticks in satay coating, baby leaf salad
Ham slices
3 sausages, fried cabbage and leeks in cream

Just over 2 litres of water, planning on another int now and then will lay off til morning or else I pee all night - and once I am woken in the night I cant get back to sleep sad

BlackAffronted Fri 04-Jan-13 18:26:47

Thought Id do a full list of positive effects LC has for me, when done properly ...

Skin clears, plumps out & softens
Tummy flattens (no bloat)
Less chin hair plucking
Happy, steady mood all day
No afternoon slump/nap
Sleep is really restfull, and I sleep from the minute me head touches the pillow til morning
Less PMT & monthly bloat
My emtional hunger disappears, which is a HUGE thing for me
Shiney hair
Regular toilet habits

Probably more, but those are the ones I can think of just now smile

thenightsky Fri 04-Jan-13 18:32:13

Wow shock

Only 3 days in and I've shed 5lb shock

On old style calorie counting at 1000 calories I'd be lucky to lose 5lb in three weeks, never mind days!

thenight well done! thats fab!!

halfthesize Fri 04-Jan-13 18:41:09

well done thenight

GreenyEyes Fri 04-Jan-13 18:44:57

Well done thenightsky!

Thanks Mulledwine for those recipes thanks

I am so ashamed. I've had a Matchmaker sad

And pretty fed up, I tried the cauliflower crust pizza tonight which looked absolutely gorgeous but I really didn't like

thenightsky Fri 04-Jan-13 18:53:47

I have stuck to it rigidly though. Friday night is curry night here and I'm just have the chicken chunks - no rice, extras and minimal sauce.

Just poured myself a small vodka and slimline tonic and, OMG, that tonic tastes sooooo sweet! Yuk.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 04-Jan-13 18:56:10

GreenEyes - one Matchmaker isn't going to be that bad!

thenightsky - that's fantastic! Proves it's worth sticking to it, doesn't it? Enjoy the vodka, as there won't be any from next week, will there? <hard stare>

GreenyEyes Fri 04-Jan-13 19:03:17

Don't tell me that BIWI, or I'll be having another before we know it

cocolepew Fri 04-Jan-13 19:17:29

Well done thenightsky!

thenightsky Fri 04-Jan-13 19:18:55

Can't I just have a voddie on a weekend? Pleeeese.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 04-Jan-13 19:20:54

<twitches the Big Stick>

Gibbsgirl soya milk is definitely low carb as long as you get unsweetened! My long life organic milk from Asda is only 0.4g per 100.

anewdispensation Fri 04-Jan-13 19:41:30

Hi all. Day 3 and I am much better. I woke up this money with a stonking headache and some shakes. Had some Greek Yoghurt for breakfast and I had to lie down afterwards. Sugar addiction is bad.. I felt like I was dying but felt better around noon.

Lunch- Ham sandwich with a handful of grated cheese with Lettuce wrap. Obv the Lettuce served as the bread and it was very yummy and filling.

Dinner- Fried pork chop in butter, with mushroom sauce and grated cheese.

Snacks- Slices of cucumber.

On the positive side, I weighed myself again this morning and I have lost a further 2lbs making 5 lbs so far since I started.

I just hope I start to feel better soon in the mornings.

LucyVFood Fri 04-Jan-13 19:52:46

Hi everyone - some brilliant results already! Well done.

For dinner I had pork chops with oregano and broccoli and savoy cabbage with a creme fraiche and stilton sauce. It was beautiful. I would NEVER have cooked like that on a normal diet and I still can't quite believe it but wow. Gorgeous. So much so that, because I was eating alone, I tipped the plate up to catch the last bit of sauce blush

I still have calorie conditioning though, and now feel guilty. Scales will be bought tomorrow!

GibbsGirl Fri 04-Jan-13 19:58:53

Thanks for the replies on soya milk, that's great news. Only like the unsweetened and tend to buy supermarket own as prefer it

thenightsky Fri 04-Jan-13 20:00:16

LucyVFood I know what you mean about 'calorie condition'... I panic about all the high cal stuff I'm consuming sometimes.

GibbsGirl Fri 04-Jan-13 20:00:49

Even though I haven't started yet all the results are making me feek really positive. Will weigh in on Monday. Have already copeied and pasted all the rules to my desktop...

MulledwineGless Fri 04-Jan-13 20:11:36

Anew disposition- well done so far. Make sure you take painkillers if you had a headache and try Bovril or electrolyte replacement sachets if shaking

anewdispensation Fri 04-Jan-13 20:14:01

Thanks Mulledwine. stupid question but what is bovril?

coldethyl Fri 04-Jan-13 20:16:48

Well, I hopped on the scales in a sneaky fashion this morning, and I've lost 5lb since Monday! Down to 9st 12. I've not mentioned it to DH, he's having a bit more trouble (and a lot more carb). I've also had to wee every half an hour and am intimately familiar with all local conveniences!

B - cucumber with greek yoghurt and caviar (xmas over-purchase, before anyone thinks we live like this all the time!)
L - celery and pate, hardboiled egg
D - roast lamb, leeks & winter greens in cream sauce. Oh wow is all I can say!

So many glasses of water I've lost count. I'm losing my taste for coffee, too - I'm down to two real and one decaff a day, and I'm thinking I'll drop the evening decaff. The early morning one is too ingrained (and I like it!) to drop and the lunchtime one is a reward for getting that far through the day.

About children and low-carb - first signs of dissent this evening, when dinner did not feature roasties. DS1 complaining of heartburn after going out with his mates yesterday and eating nothing but refined sugar (coke and jelly sweets, anyone?) then coming home for some 'healthy' orange juice. Have pointed out that ANY vegetables would be a good beginning and if he's going to eat like that when out, he has to balance it with good stuff at home. Best I can hope for, I think. The issue with vegetables at present is that he 'only' likes peas, carrots and sweetcorn. He will eat peppers, tomatoes and butternut squash, but they're all madly carby. He manfully tried the greens this evening and only slightly spat them across the kitchen. I guess I just keep trying.

Stylelostinlabour Fri 04-Jan-13 20:21:52

Talk to me about pate what types and how much would be too much? Just in case I get the Friday night munches...

MulledwineGless Fri 04-Jan-13 20:24:30

Bovril is a beefy drink - like marmite you either love it or hate it! Lo salt also contains potassium which you need

Cold- how old is DS? They just need to keep trying it
Mine wouldn't eat broccoli but I kept putting it on their plate. Eve tuly they tried it and both eat it. Currently on same battle with cauliflower!!

Bovril is like drinking gravy. Some strange people like it!!!

MulledwineGless Fri 04-Jan-13 20:34:03

Re pâté - I suppose like everything check carb count on the label

Nice with cucumber slices

Stylelostinlabour Fri 04-Jan-13 20:34:55

It has no diet details from a little maker and is just mushroom, garlic and chicken livers will it be OK?

thenightsky Fri 04-Jan-13 20:42:41

coldethyl Well done on the 5lb! smile

coldethyl Fri 04-Jan-13 20:48:21

Sadly, MulledwineGless DS1 is 11 and getting to be a stroppy little beggar. He's also apparently only finding pizza and cookies for lunch at school because the Y7s are last in, but won't take a packed lunch in case he stands out as a weirdo. I'd forgotten how tedious being an almost-teen could be (but remember having the same fights with my own mother!).

Style I found some christmas pate wildly reduced in Waitrose this morning and the carbs were tiny (sorry, have chucked the cardboard wrapper now).

thenightskye why thank you. I am trying very very hard indeed not to make a mess of it with a large glass of wine tonight. <mutters>

MulledwineGless Fri 04-Jan-13 20:51:31

Style - if that's all that's on the ingredients then perfect low carb
Fodder!

NoveltySlippers Fri 04-Jan-13 20:54:05

Evening all!

The good news - I've lost four pounds! Been low-er carbing since Jan 1st.

The bad news - I've broken out in spots (on my chin - this is The Place To Be for my spots - apparently hormonal).

However - I haven't had spots in a looong time. Maybe six months? Maybe longer? Then I low carb for four days and bam!

My Q: I thought low carbing was good for skin? Anyone else had breakouts when they first went low carb? Maybe this is is just my body adjusting to a dietary change? I hope it doesn't happen again!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 04-Jan-13 20:58:38

Novelty - it is good for your skin, but I think you have to go through a period of adjustment. No doubt it's something to do with hormones (it usually is!)

Keep on keeping on, and drinking the water, and it will soon settle down.

MulledwineGless Fri 04-Jan-13 20:59:45

Novelty
I don't remember getting spots but then I only suffer infrequently from them. However I did have problems with periods whilst my body was adjusting to fat burning rather than carb burning. Your body will have been carb loading for years and needs time to adjust

cocolepew Fri 04-Jan-13 20:59:56

Novelty, I have a spotty chin too, it's where I used to get them when I was hormonal. My mum says its the bad coming out of me grin

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 04-Jan-13 21:05:25

Goodness, I must have been very bad along the way ...

NoveltySlippers Fri 04-Jan-13 21:07:25

Thanks all - yes, will keep drinking water, and hope it sorts itself out!

Yes - I've definitely been carb loading for years. It will be a shock to the system in lots of ways I suppose.

Cocole keep me updated on your progress!

Womenandchickensfirst Fri 04-Jan-13 21:09:44

Day 4 for me, and 4lb down! I've not had any of the headaches or other bad side affects, which is great. Missing fruit more than the cakes and chocs I usually love. Went to a coffee shop with friend this morning, and she had a scrummy looking cupcake. Tbh I didn't really mind, which is unusual. Finding drinking all the water a challenge though. My question is:
I go to at least a couple of buffets a week. Always sandwiches, bharjis, spring rolls, crisps and cakes/biscuits type stuff. Any tips for how to manage?

coolkat Fri 04-Jan-13 21:12:37

Just checking in as fallen off threads I am on.

Yesterday I had bolognaise with lots of brocilli and cauliflower and added cheese and it was lovely.

Today meals have been great - meat salad cheese etc but have shamefully snacked This is my biggest problem and one I am working on sad

Tomorrow is a new day ......

Bessie123 Fri 04-Jan-13 21:16:14

Today I have had:

breakfast - scrambled eggs with a bit of butter
lunch - braised celery with Boursin-type cheese and Parmesan, a bit of smoked salmon
Dinner - braised Brussels sprouts with cream, the rest of the braised celery and a salmon fillet with one small chopped tomato, a teaspoon of pesto, butter and a few capers

This is day 3. So far I have lost... Wait for it... Nothing

If I haven't lost a decent amount by Monday morning I am going back on the sugar.

Bessie123 Fri 04-Jan-13 21:17:35

I also had a cup of black coffee, a bit of squid and 2.5 l of water through the day

Any tips?

mumat39 Fri 04-Jan-13 21:18:15

MrsHercule, Ewan, WillieWaggle, captainmummy,MulledWine, Roobs, BIWI, Doshu you have all been amazing today.

I must admit I was feeling a bit stuck the last few days. Your advice and suggestions and just general kindness has made me feel inspired so much so that I just made my first cauliflower rice, to have with the mince beef basic chilli I made for my DC that they didn't like. I'd normally have just felt sorry for myself, but I thought great, I'll have it with some of that rice. And it tasted really good. The chilli doesn't have any beans. I added some Tabasco and some more salt and it was really yummy.

I am actually really full but i find though after eating something without carbs ( I've tried this before but always stalled after day1), I always get this 'watery' feeling in my stomach and my mouth waters a lot. I know a lot of posters on here have already reported that the sweet thing passes so I'm hoping it will for me too. Is the water thing normal? Is the anyway of getting rid of it?

Humphrey, I hope your tonsillitis is better soon. I get that a lot esp when I'm run down and the best thing that works for me is to gargle with very salty warm water, ESP before you o to bed at night. I don't mind the taste esp as I know it works so if you can stand the idea it really is the best thing I've ever found to help me. If I can't do this in the day, hen I definitely do it last thing at night and I always wake up with the soreness reduced. I hope this helps a little. Oh and the other one to try if you're taking paracetamol anyway is to crush the tablets into warm water and gargle with that and then drink it. Obviously the salt water you'd spit out. Hope you're feeling better soon.

Womenandchickensfirst Fri 04-Jan-13 21:18:54

Oh, and I've got a couple of cookbooks with some lovely recipes in, including a pizza which looks good, which I will post on the recipe thread when I've tried it. I am known for my baking, and take cakes with me wherever I go, but don't feel the need to eat them normally, but feeling apprehensive about making them this week!
I too have my first spot in months sad

TooImmatureMincePies Fri 04-Jan-13 21:19:54

All set to start tomorrow - bring it on! Slightly scared of the scales, though.

Woohoo Mumat - I have never got round to making cauliflower rice so I am very impressed!!! DCs will start to enjoy your food more and more, it is a change for them too, and not one they've decided for themselves if that makes sense.

Bessie, did you measure yourself? There are some posters who have lost inches but no weight for a few weeks and then it has come whooshing off. Measuring and the general feeling of feeling better kept them going for the longer term.

TooImmatureMincePies Fri 04-Jan-13 21:23:09

I have my first spot in months too and I haven't even started yet. To add insult to injury I've lost my concealer, grr!

cocolepew Fri 04-Jan-13 21:23:51

Another thing if you have a sore throat is to smear the front of your throat/neck in Vicks.
Novelty, I got 4 or 5 red spots on monday,the were pretty big but haven't come to a head I managed not to pick. They are starting to go down now.

TooImmatureMincePies Fri 04-Jan-13 21:24:16

Bessie, stick it out for a week and see where you get. It really does work!

GreenyEyes Fri 04-Jan-13 21:24:29

Well done you losers, some fab results so far

I'm not weighing until Monday!

cocolepew Fri 04-Jan-13 21:25:18

_Do you just zap the caulflower, grated, in the microwave?_

timidviper Fri 04-Jan-13 21:28:17

Bessie I noticed last time that everybody lost at different rates and times. The weight loss can be erratic, you can be really good and not lose much then it all whizzes off at once and sometimes you can weigh the same but lose inches.

Tis very odd but it is the longterm picture that counts. Don't give up.

FatOnTheInside Fri 04-Jan-13 21:29:11

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
Froufroulala
SkaffenAmtiskaw
WomenandChickensFirst
sparkly peach
Lavenderhoney
NellVarnish
TheAccidentalExhibitionist
Frenchfries22
HavingAnOffDay
coldethyl
CaramelWaffle
CJCregg
HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey
halfthesize
GuyMartinsSideburns
Pinot
Rooobs
Chocberry
Thekitchenfairy
Mudwiggle
DharmaBumpkin
TaffyandTeenyTaffy
LucyVFood
Daisie4
Janx
Kracken
Livelongandprosper
ToffeePenny
musicmusicmusic
Lifeisontheup
Falling Over
queribus
SeriousWispaHabit
BlackAffronted
elliephant
SoleSource
PlatoonBuffoon
Prolificmincepiebreeder
PrincessSparkle86
PrettyPirate
Stylelostinlabour
Tw1nkle
Anaisa
OTTMummA
TinTinsSexySister
MegTheCat
Valdeeves
Kickarsequeen
FellatioNelson
ChristmasJubilee
TheSandstoneCat
Sorelip
Magpie2
Essexgirl31
TooImmatureMincePies
TheMumsnot
StarfishEnterprise
NAZZ
Happygolucky0
letsgocamping
SuttyShotty
SaraBellumHertz
Dangerousmouse
ElectricSoftParade
theDudesmummy
PostBellumBugsy
Prettybird
KokoBear
littlemissstan
GibbsGirl
clare8allthepies
FatOnTheInside

OK I'm finally delurking. Last year I lost 1.5 stone, the last stone of which was directly due to you guys. I'd like to lose another half stone or so, as despite now having a good BMI and low sounding weight (am a short-arse), all my fat lies around my belly.

Yay!

MulledwineGless Fri 04-Jan-13 21:30:10

Cocolepew
Yes
Or you can fry it then bind it with an egg for egg fried rice

Add turmeric/curry powder for Indian dishes
Add five spice/soy sauce for Chinese dishes

mumat39 Fri 04-Jan-13 21:30:34

MrsHercule, you're on. grin. I'll try and get my thinking head into gear and come up with a recipe for you. Thanks again for all your help. smile

MulledWine, thanks for the link to the meal planner. I will definitely have a think about what I'll be eating which is something I haven't done in years, literally. Thanks again for your help too.

Hope you both have a lovely weekend.
Xxx

lapetitedame Fri 04-Jan-13 21:31:31

Hi & Happy NY to all! Am unable to c & p so can someone please add me to list many thanks thanks See you all Monday!

MulledwineGless Fri 04-Jan-13 21:32:28

Fatontheinside- welcome and well done!!
You need to change your name though- that sounds v negative and you have done so well! Positive thinking to get the last half stone off grin

mumat39 Fri 04-Jan-13 21:35:59

Congratulations to everyone who have already started and have already lost weight. That's brilliant to read and a real inspiration.

mumat39 Fri 04-Jan-13 21:43:05

Oh and congrats to those who have lost inches. Tbh I don't care what I weigh, I just want to lose inches too.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 04-Jan-13 21:43:31

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
Froufroulala
SkaffenAmtiskaw
WomenandChickensFirst
sparkly peach
Lavenderhoney
NellVarnish
TheAccidentalExhibitionist
Frenchfries22
HavingAnOffDay
coldethyl
CaramelWaffle
CJCregg
HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey
halfthesize
GuyMartinsSideburns
Pinot
Rooobs
Chocberry
Thekitchenfairy
Mudwiggle
DharmaBumpkin
TaffyandTeenyTaffy
LucyVFood
Daisie4
Janx
Kracken
Livelongandprosper
ToffeePenny
musicmusicmusic
Lifeisontheup
Falling Over
queribus
SeriousWispaHabit
BlackAffronted
elliephant
SoleSource
PlatoonBuffoon
Prolificmincepiebreeder
PrincessSparkle86
PrettyPirate
Stylelostinlabour
Tw1nkle
Anaisa
OTTMummA
TinTinsSexySister
MegTheCat
Valdeeves
Kickarsequeen
FellatioNelson
ChristmasJubilee
TheSandstoneCat
Sorelip
Magpie2
Essexgirl31
TooImmatureMincePies
TheMumsnot
StarfishEnterprise
NAZZ
Happygolucky0
letsgocamping
SuttyShotty
SaraBellumHertz
Dangerousmouse
ElectricSoftParade
theDudesmummy
PostBellumBugsy
Prettybird
KokoBear
littlemissstan
GibbsGirl
clare8allthepies
FatOnTheInside
lapetitedame

There you go!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 04-Jan-13 21:46:54

Bessie - firstly, it's only Day 3! Everyone loses at a different rate, and the rate you lose will depend on a number of things, e.g. how much you have to lose, how often you've dieted before, etc.

Looking at your menu, there is a fair bit of dairy there, which could be an issue.

LaVidaLoCarb Fri 04-Jan-13 21:47:41

(was FatOnTheInside) OK, point taken about negative name. Am nicking the new one from somewhere I can't remember and have redone the list:

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
Froufroulala
SkaffenAmtiskaw
WomenandChickensFirst
sparkly peach
Lavenderhoney
NellVarnish
TheAccidentalExhibitionist
Frenchfries22
HavingAnOffDay
coldethyl
CaramelWaffle
CJCregg
HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey
halfthesize
GuyMartinsSideburns
Pinot
Rooobs
Chocberry
Thekitchenfairy
Mudwiggle
DharmaBumpkin
TaffyandTeenyTaffy
LucyVFood
Daisie4
Janx
Kracken
Livelongandprosper
ToffeePenny
musicmusicmusic
Lifeisontheup
Falling Over
queribus
SeriousWispaHabit
BlackAffronted
elliephant
SoleSource
PlatoonBuffoon
Prolificmincepiebreeder
PrincessSparkle86
PrettyPirate
Stylelostinlabour
Tw1nkle
Anaisa
OTTMummA
TinTinsSexySister
MegTheCat
Valdeeves
Kickarsequeen
FellatioNelson
ChristmasJubilee
TheSandstoneCat
Sorelip
Magpie2
Essexgirl31
TooImmatureMincePies
TheMumsnot
StarfishEnterprise
NAZZ
Happygolucky0
letsgocamping
SuttyShotty
SaraBellumHertz
Dangerousmouse
ElectricSoftParade
theDudesmummy
PostBellumBugsy
Prettybird
KokoBear
littlemissstan
GibbsGirl
clare8allthepies
LaVidaLoCarb
lapetitedame

Chocberry Fri 04-Jan-13 21:51:17

I started today. I had:

B- full fat natural yoghurt
L- goats cheese and spinach ommlette with salad (hope goats cheese is ok)
D- chicken thighs and broccoli with butter

At work all day today and didn't have any snacks prepared so have felt slightly hungry today and nausea.

I'm struggling with the water. Have almost managed 2 litres I think.
Salad was a bit plain, would hellmans mayo be ok to have?

Have a headache now and my head feels foggy sad
Can't wait to start feeling good!!!

timidviper Fri 04-Jan-13 21:52:16

Love the name LaVidaLoCarb! Wish I'd thought of that!

MulledwineGless Fri 04-Jan-13 21:54:24

Lavidalocarb- loving it!!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 04-Jan-13 21:54:47

Womenandchickensfirst - I feel for you. Those kind of buffets are the worst possible to deal with.

Is there any chance you can influence what's provided? Can you contact the meeting organisers to ask them for something you can eat? If necessary, tell them you're allergic to wheat/gluten, and that you need something that isn't bread or pastry.

If you can't do that, make sure that you have a really decent breakfast before you go to the meeting - bacon, eggs, (low carb) sausages, mushrooms. Once you're in ketosis, you will find that a good breakfast like this should easily take you till 2/3 in the afternoon before you feel really hungry.

If there's no way round it, take a plate full of appropriate sandwiches and remove their fillings - ham/beef/cheese can usually be 'salvaged' from between the slices of bread.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 04-Jan-13 21:56:09

Chocberry - Hellmans is definitely OK, as long as it's full fat

MulledwineGless Fri 04-Jan-13 21:57:41

Chocberry- to succeed on this woe you need to understand the science behind it all
Yes to mayo- you need good fats to stay full
At this early stage keep eating until you are in ketosis when you won't need to eat as often. Keep your potassium levels up too
Either with food such as avocado, bovril, lo salt added to food or electrolyte replacements

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 04-Jan-13 22:00:47

coolkat - you need to stick at it, I'm afraid! Once you get into ketosis, which should take you about 3-5 days, you will find that you are just not hungry. It will be a real revelation, as everyone here who has experience it before will agree!

But if you fall off the wagon, you're delaying reaching ketosis. It's really important to keep focused.

mumat39 Fri 04-Jan-13 22:01:14

Just looking at bovril. Are both chicken and beef flavour ones ok? And how many cups a day can you have ?

Thanks again.

cocolepew Fri 04-Jan-13 22:01:31

Thanks mulled.

Ruprekt Fri 04-Jan-13 22:35:09

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
Froufroulala
SkaffenAmtiskaw
WomenandChickensFirst
sparkly peach
Lavenderhoney
NellVarnish
TheAccidentalExhibitionist
Frenchfries22
HavingAnOffDay
coldethyl
CaramelWaffle
CJCregg
HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey
halfthesize
GuyMartinsSideburns
Pinot
Rooobs
Chocberry
Thekitchenfairy
Mudwiggle
DharmaBumpkin
TaffyandTeenyTaffy
LucyVFood
Daisie4
Janx
Kracken
Livelongandprosper
ToffeePenny
musicmusicmusic
Lifeisontheup
Falling Over
queribus
SeriousWispaHabit
BlackAffronted
elliephant
SoleSource
PlatoonBuffoon
Prolificmincepiebreeder
PrincessSparkle86
PrettyPirate
Stylelostinlabour
Tw1nkle
Anaisa
OTTMummA
TinTinsSexySister
MegTheCat
Valdeeves
Kickarsequeen
FellatioNelson
ChristmasJubilee
TheSandstoneCat
Sorelip
Magpie2
Essexgirl31
TooImmatureMincePies
TheMumsnot
StarfishEnterprise
NAZZ
Happygolucky0
letsgocamping
SuttyShotty
SaraBellumHertz
Dangerousmouse
ElectricSoftParade
theDudesmummy
PostBellumBugsy
Prettybird
KokoBear
littlemissstan
GibbsGirl
clare8allthepies
LaVidaLoCarb
lapetitedame
Ruprekt

Ruprekt Fri 04-Jan-13 22:39:24

So is this a good plan for a meal - am starting Monday.

B - eggs fried, mushrooms and tomatoes
L - chicken and salad with FF Hellmans
D - Salmon with vegetables

Shed loads of water, no fruit, no puddings.

I am trying to get the sugar out of my body. Is that right?