New Year Low Carb Bootcamp

(1001 Posts)
BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 29-Dec-12 21:30:12

Hope you all had a lovely Christmas, and that Santa brought you everything that you deserved! grin

By now, I'm guessing that many of us will be rather tired of chocolates and stodgy food. Mince pie anyone? wink

So. The next low carb Bootcamp will be starting on 7 January. It will run for 10 weeks, which will take us to mid-March. The idea of Bootcamp is that we have an initial strict fortnight, which will see a significant amount of weight loss, followed by a more relaxed 8 weeks.

Overall, if you follow the rules, you can expect to lose anything up to 20lbs in this time period.

So who is in?

If you want to join us, add your name to the list and tell us what your aims/objectives are.

I will start ...

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 29-Dec-12 21:31:38

BIWI - would like to lose another half a stone, taking me to my wedding weight of 8 stone 11.

ScillyCow Sat 29-Dec-12 21:36:03

I'm in.

I would like to lose 6 stone in total - but I would be delighted if I can lose 1 stone during Bootcamp.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 29-Dec-12 21:37:58

Scilly - in the last Bootcamp, one of us lost over a stone in the first week! We were all shock at that!

MulledwineGless Sat 29-Dec-12 21:39:54

<Wobbles in>

BIWI I'm in.
I have my sisters wedding on burns night so need to lose half a stone by then for starters then would like to lose another half stone by end of Bootcamp.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 29-Dec-12 21:41:04

BIWI
MulledwineGless

sudka1 Sat 29-Dec-12 21:41:13

Sudka and I would love to be part of this boot camp to kick start me into losing 1 1/2 stone.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 29-Dec-12 21:41:31

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow

cocolepew United States Sat 29-Dec-12 21:42:38

Me, grudginglygrin. I need to cut out sugar, I'm insulin resistant due to PCOS. I now no longer have my ovaries as of last August, but still appear to wobble hmm

I'm also full of fluid, I'm on hrt patches which I'm not sure are helping, but I'm not going to blame them. That's the easy way out.

I'm a biggish 14 and would happily settle for being a 12. I don't know how much I weigh but would guess well over 12 stone. I've always been around 9 and a 1/2 stone until I went on Citalopram and put on a couple of stone in a few months shock.

I'd be happy with getting to 10 stone, I'm 5ft 5".

ArfAPandaTreacle Sat 29-Dec-12 21:44:16

Hi I just came on here thinking I might try low carb again (despite carb flu -ouch!)

Please help persuade me.

Thing stopping me is I bf an egg and dairy allegic baby.

With this in mind, please can I have meal ideas? I struggled last time.

Also in the firs 2 weeks what is your cab 'limit' amount?

gloriafloria Sat 29-Dec-12 21:46:26

Can I join please. I want to be back to a size 10/12 by May. I'm currently 12/14 and think I need to lose 1st. Planning on starting back at pilates in Jan plus lots of walking.

Trouble is I can't seem to function without scoffing carbs at every meal so hope I can stick to this one.

NewStartSameStory Sat 29-Dec-12 21:47:22

I am in. I need my eating habits sorted. And now that I am in sight of my previous bootcamp target (2kg to go) would love to get down to 65kg. A total aimed loss of 7kg. Would be rather lovely. But honestly just want to feel better and be migraine free.

catinsantasboots Sat 29-Dec-12 21:48:49

Me

thenightsky Sat 29-Dec-12 21:49:40

me too.

want to lose the stone i've gained since starting HRT 2 years ago.

All my fat is round my middle.

cocolepew United States Sat 29-Dec-12 21:50:17

A stone in the first week!? Good grief shock

Has anyone who has done low carb before notice if you lose excess fluid? It's causing me joint pain atm because it is pushing the bones in my pelvis out of the sockets.

AuntieMaggie Sat 29-Dec-12 21:50:56

I'm in... smile

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 29-Dec-12 21:52:07

Come on you feckers - add your name to the list!

Cut and paste and then add your name:

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow

Iheartpasties Sat 29-Dec-12 21:52:42

What are the rules? I've never read about low carbing. What can I read online?

Yddraigoldragon Sat 29-Dec-12 21:54:07

Signing up.
Low carb really suits me, I feel really well doing it (after the first few days anyway). Have loads to lose, and have decided not to set goals as this for me now needs to be a lifestyle choice, and I need to stop messing about.

AuntieMaggie Sat 29-Dec-12 21:54:16

No idea cocolepew but I started this way of eating in August and really notice a difference with my insulin resistance (because of PCOS) and feel a lot better.

vnmum Sat 29-Dec-12 21:54:50

I'm in. Want to lose a stone at least. That will cover my xmas gain plus getting to my original goal from previous bootcamp.

ILoveOnionRings Sat 29-Dec-12 21:55:10

Me too, I would like to loose 1 stone minimum (could you do the rules please)

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings

thenightsky Sat 29-Dec-12 21:55:51

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
thenightsky

Yddraigoldragon Sat 29-Dec-12 21:57:25

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 29-Dec-12 21:57:26

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky

Flutterbutterby Sat 29-Dec-12 21:57:48

Hi, I'd love to join!

DH and I been low carbers since last Feb. We were relatively strict with ourselves to start with but in the last 3-4 months we've got into bad habits. Christmas, well, it's fair to say that a few roasties and the odd slice of toast managed to sneak through!

Keen to return to better ways!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 29-Dec-12 21:58:02

Whoops!

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon

ArfAPandaTreacle Sat 29-Dec-12 21:59:30

I think I got missed.

Umm, so what is the carb limit?

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 29-Dec-12 21:59:35

Iheartpasties The Bootcamp rules are here - look at the tabs at the bottom of the spreadsheet

All you need to do is to follow the rules - and there are only 10 of them. It's designed to be as simple as possible.

thenightsky Sat 29-Dec-12 22:00:13

right, this low/no carb thing is new to me. Are you all experts? Will I be able to ask you questions about what I can or cannot eat?

<novice>

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 29-Dec-12 22:01:13

Nope. We all have varying degrees of experience, and the great value of the threads is the support and learning that we offer each other. You can ask as many questions as you like! That's how we all learn.

thenightsky Sat 29-Dec-12 22:01:32

Fuck... you have a spreadsheet shock

<maths phobic>

<faints>

ArfAPandaTreacle Sat 29-Dec-12 22:01:35

So are we all starting tomorrow?

Is this it?
<shakes>

NewStartSameStory Sat 29-Dec-12 22:02:21

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
NewStartSameStory

ArfAPandaTreacle Sat 29-Dec-12 22:02:54

I asked some questions, up there <points>

AuntieMaggie Sat 29-Dec-12 22:03:16

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie

Teeb Sat 29-Dec-12 22:03:21

I'd like to join too please. I'm an utter carb fiend, potatoes in any shape or form being a particular weakness of mine. Really speaking I want/need to lose 5 stone, and I'd be extremely pleased if I could lose at least a stone.

HumphreyCobbler Sat 29-Dec-12 22:03:25

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
HumphreyCobbler

I want to just keep on going, tweaking the weight a bit maybe by losing the stuff I have gained over Christmas, but still enjoying all the benefits of this WOE.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 29-Dec-12 22:03:28

Start date is 7 January, so time to prepare yourself!

And we have a spreadsheet which has been masterminded by the lovely WilleWaggler. All you need to do is put your weekly weight in, and the spreadsheet/Willie does the rest!

HumphreyCobbler Sat 29-Dec-12 22:04:20

sorry
BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler

NewStartSameStory Sat 29-Dec-12 22:04:34

This is going to get a messy list.

Tbf Biwi most actually thought it was a scales glip and looking at the entire bootcamp record for last time I am inclined to agree in hindsight. it always felt too good to be true tbh. Who knows.

HugAndRoll Sat 29-Dec-12 22:05:58

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll

I don't know how much weight I want to lose yet, I'm weighing on Monday morning so will declare then. I know it will be at least 2 stone though.

ArfAPandaTreacle Sat 29-Dec-12 22:06:54

Ok can I ask again:

Is it any good for a dairy and egg avoiding person?
What is the limit of carbs? I.e 0? 1g?2?
Can I be added to the list please.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 29-Dec-12 22:08:08

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb

Teeb Sat 29-Dec-12 22:08:18

Oops sorry I forgot to add myself to the list. (added you too Panda)

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle

SilverBaubles33 Sat 29-Dec-12 22:08:41

Me. My jeans seem to have another person already in them whenni try to get in too. This time two years ago they needed a belt.

Glum.

Where is spreadsheet? Yikes!

SilverBaubles33 Sat 29-Dec-12 22:09:39

When

To them.

Think jeans usurper may also be using keyboard...

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 29-Dec-12 22:09:49

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle

Yes, you can do it if you're a dairy/egg-avoiding person
Daily limit isn't set - just follow the Bootcamp rules. The whole idea is that you don't have to count/weigh; just follow the list of allowed veg
And you are on the list grin

ArfAPandaTreacle Sat 29-Dec-12 22:10:18

Thanks Teebs! I dont seem to be able to do that from my end.

Lighthousekeeping Sat 29-Dec-12 22:11:05

Im in. Its worked for me before.

Ive just been home for Christmas and my mum mouthed "havent you put weight on?" to me over the table sad I shall be going home for a party on March 14th. Can I lose something by then? I find that as soon as I lay off the booze and the wheat it starts coming off.

Im having a couple of ciders tonight and then Im working straight through until the 3rd of Jan. That will be my shopping day. Any advice on what to buy will be greatly appreciated.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 29-Dec-12 22:11:22

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33

We don't have a spreadsheet set up for next year yet, although I'm hoping that if we're all very nice to WillieWaggler that she might agree to do it for us!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 29-Dec-12 22:12:17

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping

ArfAPandaTreacle Sat 29-Dec-12 22:13:05

Oh my goodness bootcamp rules are quite hard to read in spreadsheet format from a phone.

Please could I have a link to BCR that is not in spead sheet format?

ZZZenAgain Sat 29-Dec-12 22:13:38

I'm in but dd is baking and cooking like a maniac these days and none of it is low carb. Feel obliged to at least try what she makes but the flour really gets to me, now I am no longer used to it

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Singingtunelessly

Oh yes am definitely in. Feel sluggish and tired.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 29-Dec-12 22:18:28

Sorry Arf - should have thought about that. Here they are, along with the list of allowed veg:

As a reminder, or for those who are new, these are the Bootcamp rules:

1.Eat three, proper meals a day
You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack)

2.Avoid processed food, and focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals – meat/fish/eggs.
Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins Daybreak bars.

3.Maximise your fat intake.
Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4.Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food – this is where your carbs should come from.
But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list (see below). You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat

5.Minimal dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited).
If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. You may eat cheese, but only in small amounts.

6.You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink

7.No alcohol

8.No fruit

9.No nuts/seeds

10.No sugar or artificial sweeteners

And this is the allowed list of veg:

Don’t eat any veg unless it’s on this list, and try and focus on eating those that are under 3g carbs per 100g:

Veg (raw)Carbs per 100g
Mushrooms0.4
Watercress0.4
Spinach0.8
Celery0.9
Broccoli1.1
Asparagus 1.4
Cucumber1.5
Lettuce1.7
Fennel1.8
Courgettes1.8
Cauliflower1.9
Avocado flesh1.9
Turnip2
Pumpkin2.2
Runner beans2.3
Swede2.3
Celeriac2.3
Bean sprouts2.5
Carrots2.5
Green pepper2.6
Baby sweetcorn2.7
Aubergine2.8
Leeks2.9
Okra3
Tomato3.1
Mangetout3.3
Shallots3.3
Brussels sprouts3.5
French beans4.7
Cabbage5
Yellow pepper5.3
Carrots6
Orange or red pepper6.4
Ginger (peeled)7.2
Butternut squash7.5
Onions7.9

NewStartSameStory Sat 29-Dec-12 22:23:28

Biwi could you add me to that list pretty please.

Also Red kale. What do i do with it. ds talked me into buying some. It is on the recipie thread?

ZakuroFujiwara Sat 29-Dec-12 22:24:36

Never done this before but NEED to do something as have 3 stone to lose. So I'm in...

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuraFujiwara

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 29-Dec-12 22:25:09

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Singingtunelessly
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory

ArfAPandaTreacle Sat 29-Dec-12 22:25:48

Thats great BIWI. Thank you.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 29-Dec-12 22:26:38

NewStart - I don't know anything about red kale, but here is some stuff about it

Teeb Sat 29-Dec-12 22:29:25

Looking at the list of allowed veg carrots popped up twice, once at 2.5 and again at 6? I'm not sure if someone can clear that up.

ZakuroFujiwara Sat 29-Dec-12 22:32:51

(Think the list got out of synch..)

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory

I'm in! Starting on 7th January is perfect for me. I've got 2 stone to lose and after carb overdose after Christmas I'm actually really looking forward to getting my energy levels back. Thanks for getting us all together BIWI!

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuraFujiwara
Becstarlightstarbright

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 29-Dec-12 22:34:09

Teeb - it depends if they are old carrots or new carrots confused

As I have no idea how to tell if carrots are old or new, I always assume the higher carb count.

NewStartSameStory Sat 29-Dec-12 22:34:09

Ooooh sounds easy and interesting might have to try various of those methods. Although we do typically just steam veg around here. Thanks. Should be a change from the scrambled eggs i have been living off the last week ignores all the other stuff that really is not bootcamp friendly

Thank you Biwi. Hope you are recovering from christmas adventures suitably!

SavoirFaire Sat 29-Dec-12 22:35:27

Am in. Have done a previous boot camp under a previous name. Worked brilliantly - until I fell off the wagon completely. This time DH is in too. Only issue will be that I have a birthday fairly early on (will be within first two weeks - eek). But desperately need to lose at least a stone or I will need to buy an entire new wardrobe which I don't want and can't afford.

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
SavoirFaire

CooCoolite Sat 29-Dec-12 22:35:54

Adding myself in, lost half a stone on this in the summer and kept it off but had planned to lose 2!

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
CooCoolite

Oops x- posted - here I am,

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright

Teeb Sat 29-Dec-12 22:38:43

Ah thanks Biwi, didn't expect to learn something new about carrots today!

TheSloppelganger Sat 29-Dec-12 22:45:08

Adding myself - ideally need to lose 5 stone to be the 'perfect' weight for my height. But would be happy if I could just manage to shift 2 stone - that would get me back to a point where I have more nice clothes to choose from and I don't feel bad about myself.

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger

halfthesize Sat 29-Dec-12 22:50:56

Hi I'm in again, want to loose my Xmas blubber and final stone. Can't wait as previous boot camps were fab x

cathyandclaire Sat 29-Dec-12 22:50:56

Can I stay with you all please? I'm aiming to lose the Christmas bloat (6 lb at the mo) and stay on the straight and narrow and this woe definitely stops me bingeing on crap. So, I won't be then biggest loser but I'd love to tag along smile

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
Cathyandclaire

gloriafloria Sat 29-Dec-12 22:52:12

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

halfthesize Sat 29-Dec-12 22:52:21

Sorry BIWI silly phone won't let me cut and paste angry

sudka1 Sat 29-Dec-12 22:57:11

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
Sudka

gloriafloria Sat 29-Dec-12 22:58:25

Sorry got my name wrong too much wine smile

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria

WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Sat 29-Dec-12 23:01:44

Will c&p myself onto list tomorrow when on computer.

Very happy to continue the spreadsheet if everyone else is happy for me to do so. If so, I will create a new spreadsheet at the end of this week - don't worry if you're not on it now, that is the

WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Sat 29-Dec-12 23:03:06

Bollocks

That is the old list

In the meantime, do any previous low carbers have the allowed food list? It seems to have accidentally been deleted from the spreadsheet...

ViperInTheManger Sat 29-Dec-12 23:08:06

I'm back again! I still have a lot to lose despite losing 2stone on the last bootcamp (although I'll have put some back on over Xmas and New Year)

My goal is to be able to buy clothes at "normal" shops, even if it's only M&S, rather than buying plus sizes although I think it may take more than one bootcamp to get me there! I'll commit to aiming for 2 stone in 10 weeks again.

I'll have namechanged by then so:
BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloriacwhicker
Viperidae

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 29-Dec-12 23:10:04

Yay! Thank you so much, Willie. I would be very, very grateful if you would carry on being the Spreadsheet Meister! grin

cocolepew United States Sat 29-Dec-12 23:11:15

Could someone put me on the list, please? I can't do it from my phone blush

Fadqueen Sat 29-Dec-12 23:18:56

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Fadqueen Sat 29-Dec-12 23:21:10

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

SageStuffingYourOrifice Sat 29-Dec-12 23:21:46

Oooh! Me please!

I'm Sage. 34 years old. Have a 17 month old DD. Gained a heap having fertility treatment, taking HRT, steroids etc. Also have an underactive thyroid. Ate cake almost every day of maternity leave! Am 5'6" and weigh 13 stone 7 lbs, possibly more but I need to check when I get home after our holiday. I want to lose at least 2 stone but 20lbs in 10 weeks would be a brilliant start.

Could someone pop me on the list please? I'm posting from my iPhone. Also, can someone direct me to the rules please?

HugAndRoll Sat 29-Dec-12 23:22:47

I weighed and I'm pretty much 12 stone so need to lose at least 2, pref 2 1/2.

cocolepew United States Sat 29-Dec-12 23:26:17

Thank you fadqueen smile.

Is anyone else on hrt and finding it harder to shift weight?

thenightsky Sat 29-Dec-12 23:29:10

cocolepew YY to HRT blues. I'm piling it on since starting. And I don't reckon i eat that much more.

gloriafloria Sat 29-Dec-12 23:30:05

Can people cut and paste from this list as I put my name down wrong on the other list. Thanks

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
Viperidae
Fadqueen
Cocolepew

cocolepew United States Sat 29-Dec-12 23:35:26

I'm on oestogen only patches after having a hysterectomy including ovary removal. I don't want to totally blame them, but I think they are contributing somewhat.

colette Sat 29-Dec-12 23:37:34

I'm in as well
BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
Viperidae
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette

Am a total convert after enjoying the fantastic support and losing 20lbs on the last Bootcamp and feeling so much healthier and better energy levels, no 4pm slump!! Would like to get down to around 145-147 lbs (I am 5'8") but also just feel better after the Xmas madness.

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
Viperidae
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided.

SageStuffingYourOrifice Sun 30-Dec-12 00:00:36

Sorry- missed link to BC rules.

I don't think I can stop eating fruit : (

I might do weight watchers instead.

Good luck everyone!

thenightsky Sun 30-Dec-12 00:04:04

fuck... where are these 'rules'? We can't have FRUIT??? shock

mumat39 Sun 30-Dec-12 00:20:11

Hi. Can I join?

I'm 44 and have 2 young kids, aged 5 and 3. I lost a stone at the start of this year on diet chef but have put it all back on again. I feel fat, unfit and tired all the time so am looking forward to the energy mentioned up thread.

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
Viperidae
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39

cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 00:29:30

Bit worried about the no fruit, if I don't have grapefruit in the morning I may never poo again. <over shares>

Though I suppose I won't be clogging myself up with crap rubbish.

cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 00:37:50

There are free carb counters and diets on google play if anyone is using an Android device.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sun 30-Dec-12 00:41:30

Look. The thing about fruit is that it is full of sugar, and sugar is what creates all the problems for us. Sugar = insulin production = laying down of fat.

In the first two weeks of Bootcamp, which are the strictest, you aren't allowed any fruit. In the main, this is to help break the addiction to sweet things. After these two weeks, you can re-introduce fruit, as long it's lower in carbs, so we're talking berries mainly.

As long as you eat plenty of veg and salad, and drink lots of water, you will not have a problem with poo!

Micha54178 Sun 30-Dec-12 00:47:04

Can I join in?
I'm 5' 4" weight 12st 7lb would like to get back to pre pregnancy weight of 9st!! But I'm breastfeeding! Can I still join in?

Santaandme Sun 30-Dec-12 00:52:36

Please can I join? I am currently 14 stones and would like to lose 4 stones.

mumat39 Sun 30-Dec-12 00:53:08

I forgot to say I'd like to lose about 3 stone. Height 5'6".
Current weight is 12st 12lb.
[wobbles off to bed with thighs a chaffing. Hmmm nice!]
Thanks BIWI. smile thanks

icovetthee Sun 30-Dec-12 00:55:26

I'd love to join. I need to lose around 6 stone but I'd be happy with 4 stone and we all have to start somewhere. I've not tried low carb before as I always find myself craving pasta, potatoes and bread so I'm sure this will be difficult (but worth it).

Can anyone tell me the rules so I can plan ahead and be less scared? Can someone do this without a big budget because I couldn't afford the mass amounts of meat for Dukan.

anewdispensation Sun 30-Dec-12 01:01:05

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
Viperidae
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation

NewStartSameStory Sun 30-Dec-12 01:11:09

I have actually found that my portions of meat are smaller. and whilst i spend more on basic veg etc I save on the pasta and bread sides of things. But i am not very adventurous in my cooking habits. Others might have better advice on this Icovet

dickiedavisthunderthighs Sun 30-Dec-12 01:19:02

I'm in smile
I'm a low carbing non-meat eater though so hope that's ok. Followed the Rose Elliot book last year and lost 1.5 stone. Fallen off the wagon somewhat but not put any of it back on so would like to kick off again in Jan and lose another 1.5 stonesmile

dickiedavisthunderthighs Sun 30-Dec-12 01:21:36

Would somebody mind adding me to the list as I'm on my phone?

Bessie123 Sun 30-Dec-12 01:46:14

I'm in, too. Would like to lose 1.5 stone of fat from dc2 pregnancy and half a stone from recent unsuccessful pregnancy. So 2 stone shock. I don't eat meat; how easy will this bootcamp thing be?

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
Viperidae
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123

Bessie123 Sun 30-Dec-12 01:47:54

I've added you, dickie

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
Viperidae
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs

CordeliaChase Sun 30-Dec-12 03:09:21

Hello all, I am very much wanting to join you all in this. I don't have any scales though, so may have to find some to weigh myself! I want to drop at least a dress size, I'm currently a size 12 (sometimes a 14 depending on where I am). I want to get down to a 10-12 before summer :-)

If that's ok can I carry on dipping I'm and out . I have 2 stone 6lb to loose to get to what's been my goal weight of 10 stone am 5.7 may adjust lower that as get nearer I meds drop the dirt coke as allowed myself few over Xmas as don't drink

But on flip side since Mid June I have lost 7 stone 8lb so LC is defintley way to go for me and when fell of wagon beginning Dec I made self really feel Ill .

I have break to Butlins in April then the big trip September which was what kick started this all of

Can't add to list as on phone Sorry

Need not meds

I'm in - especially after that inspiring weight loss by thehumancatapult above! On phone though so can't copy and paste at mo!

Ilovemyteddy Sun 30-Dec-12 07:29:34

I'm in. Have lost 5 stones this year thanks to this wonderful thread and the John Briffa book (although a few pounds may have gone on over Christmas.)

Want to be 10st 7lbs so 7lbs to go + Christmas weight.

Can't add myself to the list as I'm on my phone.

Mrs HP

It's been a slog and have been mega strict bar attempt fall of in Dec also I don't eat gluten at all and hardly any dairy either but well it's been worth it and I feel by September when fly to Wdw I will happily be at my goal weight

sybilfaulty Sun 30-Dec-12 08:46:32

Hello old and new bootcampers!

I am looking forward to the thread. I lost 1st 10lb in the last 6 months (but may have a few lbs back on over the holidays) and am looking to lose another stone to lose my back fat etc. That would take me to the slimmest I have been since being an adult. It would also mean size 10 -12 clothes which would be unheard of for me.

Am on phone so can't add myself to the list. Could a kind person add me please?

Is the pre bootcamp chat going to carry on here or on other thread?

Thanks to BIWI for her stick and Willie for the spreadsheet. Llooking forward to LC chat and support over the winter months.

RatherBeOnThePiste Sun 30-Dec-12 08:47:10

<shuffles in>

RatherBeOnThePiste Sun 30-Dec-12 08:49:43

Have spectacularly fallen off the LC wagon, could someone please add me to the list, I need to be on it. Thanks lovely BIWI.

I am more or less at goal weight (well I was - I few lbs have definitely gone on over the last week!) but after years of disordered eating I need the support to keep up this WOE. Also the two weeks of proper bootcamp shakes away the bad habits that creep in so easily!

This bootcamp will see me get to a year of proper low carbing (in February)

Welcome to all the new joiners - it is tough initially, but once you get into the swing of low carbing you really do feel fab

EwanHoHoHozami Sun 30-Dec-12 09:27:57

Hello carb-dodgers old and new

I've been on this WOE since August and have lost a stone-and-a-half and two dress sizes.

I'm 5'8" and 10 stone 12 and my target weight is 10 stone 4. These last pounds are going to be tough, I think.

I'm doing it for two main reasons, physical and mental health (what better reasons are there?!) I have ongoing hip problems from lingering SPD and being lighter is helping massively with easing the pain and pressure on my joints. I'm also prone to a spot of depression and ditching the sugar has almost zapped the mood swings. It's also quite cheering to look at my reflection and see less podge.

The support here is fab. You can ask anything, post up your meal plans, link to blogs and dresses and enthuse over the joys of Lidl.

Looking forward to it!

Doshusallie Sun 30-Dec-12 09:28:40

Hi all. Will be about but weighed this morning and 2 days of strict lc'ing sees me back nearly at ideal weight (9 1) so just maintaining. Last 2 days have been an experiment in "does dairy stall me?". Result = no!!

Looks like you are going to be busy BIWI......grin. Happy to help answer questions where i can (no expert) if that helps.

EwanHoozami Iran Sun 30-Dec-12 09:46:09

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
Viperidae
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase

Brianstorm Sun 30-Dec-12 09:52:57

Me too, me too! I have never got down to my pre-pregnancy weight and the youngest just turned 2 blush

I'm keen to lose just over a stone and have family weddings this year to aim for. Plus the benefit of having a whole lot of clothes in my wardrobe which have been far too small to fit into are just a bit tight...

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
Viperidae
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brianstorm

OliviaPeaceOnMumsnet (MNHQ) Sun 30-Dec-12 10:02:53

<pretends not to have seen the thread>

OliviaPeaceOnMumsnet (MNHQ) Sun 30-Dec-12 10:03:44

NB We have removed a couple of posts which have a wrong name on it.
Thanks
MNHQ

Jacaqueen Sun 30-Dec-12 10:06:22

Me I am in.

I joined the first Bootcamp back in April and have lost close to 3 stone. I would like to lose another stone during the next Bootcamp.

Could someone add me to the list please. I am old and can barely read my phone never mind c&p.

cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 10:10:29

<cooees at Olivia>

Stuid questions time (there may be many,brace yourselves)

1. Beansprouts. If using them in a salad do you have to cook them first? I've only ever had them in a stir fry.

2. What the chuff can I have for breakfast? Current one is 6 Rich Tea and butter blush
I gave 15-20 minutes to make and eat it on work days. I don't know if I could face scrambled eggs without toast that early.

Thank you smile.

cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 10:12:01

There's no peas on the list <cries>

Doshusallie Sun 30-Dec-12 10:15:41

Cocole - no idea re bean sprouts. Peas are full of sugar that's why kids like them. I have full fat Greek yoghurt for breakfast, lidl do a great one, or total is good. Or have boiled eggs ready in fridge, good for brekkie and snacking on too.

MulledwineGless Sun 30-Dec-12 10:16:20

Coco
Breakdfast ideas

Boiled eggs cooked night before with dollop of mayo or Boursin
Full fat Greek yoghurt (after Bootcamp you can add berries)
Ham rolled up with full fat Philly inside
Leftovers from night before
Lots of European countries have savoury breakfasts its just changing yr mind set
I also eat omlette a and fry ups where I can wink

Bean sprouts - can eat Them raw in a salad. Make sure you add full fat mayo or a dressing to your salad. The fat makes you feel full ( and it won't make you fat!!!)

MulledwineGless Sun 30-Dec-12 10:17:59

Peas and sweet corn both high in sugar. This is only the first two weeks to break our sugar addiction remember.
Those of us who were suffering with candida have found symptoms have gone completely on this woe as well as PMT suffs reported massive benefits.

G'wan you know yu want to

sybilfaulty Sun 30-Dec-12 10:18:15

Coco, off the top of my head, breakfast quickly includes:

Ham with Philly
Smoked salmon (with Philly if you like)
Hard boiled eggs with celery salt
Any boiled eggs mashed with butter / boursin
Smoked mackeral
Leftovers
Caponata
Pate on cucumber

The list goes on. If you like food, you will never go hungry or indeed get bored on this WOE. Promise.

ChristmasKnackers Sun 30-Dec-12 10:23:07

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
Viperidae
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers

Doshusallie Sun 30-Dec-12 10:25:31

Mushrooms are a great thing to substitute toast for, ie, they sop up the egg yolk on fried eggs nicely. Believe me, after 2 weeks on this you will not want toast. It will still smell nice but the taste will not be what you remember.

BistoBearWithBaublesOn Sun 30-Dec-12 10:28:42

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
Viperidae
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear

I'm in, would like to lose 1 stone, I am 5ft6in
And would like to weigh 10stone please smile

I train a lot, run every second day and cycle too,
will my body cope without the carbs for energy?

MulledwineGless Sun 30-Dec-12 10:32:20

Yes you may need to give it a couple of days as some people have carb flu on day 3-5 depending on how carb reliant you were before. Your body will switch o fat burning rather than carb burning very quickly

Have a look t this guys blog here

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
Viperidae
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges

I would love to join. Currently 14 stone with yeast issues and insulin problems and a definite carb and sugar addiction

cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 10:33:31

Thanks everyone smile

I hate mayo and Greek yohurt grin

I could eat hard boiled eggs til they came out of my ears though.

The ham as a wrap is a great idea.

I only like cheese coleslaw, is this ok?

Sorry about all the questions, you'll be sick of me before the 7th.

Ilovemyteddy Sun 30-Dec-12 10:34:22

And toast doesn't fill you up in the way that a plateful of bacon and portobello mushrooms does!

The key to this WOE is to be organised, plan your meals ahead and drink loads of water. No one has mentioned the water yet. You need to drink loads of water so that your kidneys are hydrated, leaving your liver to zap your fat. If you don't drink enough water then your liver starts compensating and doesn't burn as much fat. Well that's how I understand it!! And it's WATER, not coffee, tea, fizzy drinks and definitely NO fruit juice.

Running to the loo every five minutes helps with the fat burning too smile

Ilovemyteddy Sun 30-Dec-12 10:35:45

BIWI is the Briffa talk still on for 27th Jan?

MulledwineGless Sun 30-Dec-12 10:38:30

Cheese coleslaw fine- BIWI has a list of carb count of coleslaw sure she will be along soon. You could make your own?

Do you like Boursin?
Salami as a wrap too is yummy

Also instead of using bread for sandwiches use lettuce as the wrap.

Recipe thread for more ideas here

Key to this or first few weeks is meal planning and having low carb snacks in, plus drinking ALL your water

MulledwineGless Sun 30-Dec-12 10:39:05

X posts Ilovemyteddy

cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 10:40:28

I do drink a lot of water, I always have a bottle on the go in work, so that's at least one good thing I do!
I gave gone completely wheat free and sugar free before. I was very ill when I was about 20, chronic fatigue, gynae problems, muscle/joint problems. I went to an oestopath who is a bit woo as well, and she told me to come off sugar. I was better with 2 months after being ill for nearly 6 months.

I get the occassional intolerance to wheat, if I've been ill and o'd on it. I do try to stick to wholemeal.

Mosman Sun 30-Dec-12 10:44:01

Count me in please
11 stone 7lb's - more than the day after i gave birth 2.5 years ago sob sob
Aiming for 10 stone 6lb which should make me a size 10

cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 10:46:29

I've never had Boursin, I'll buy some today.

Thanks again for taking the time yo answer smile

GreenyEyes Sun 30-Dec-12 10:51:14

I'm in!!

Chubbed up for winter to the tune of just over half a stone blush which is sickening me. Now want to lose a stone

Boursin in scrambled eggs is delish

GreenyEyes Sun 30-Dec-12 10:51:55

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
Viperidae
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes

JenaiMathis Sun 30-Dec-12 10:52:29

I'm in! Not sure how much I weigh, but I can tell I'm approaching the weight I was at my biggest a couple of years ago (13 stone). I lost 3.5 stone doing the Idiot Proof Diet, but it's crept back on. I shall weigh myself before we start though.

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
Viperidae
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar

Thanks BIWI smile

JenaiMathis Sun 30-Dec-12 10:53:51

x-posts!

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
Viperidae
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr

hurricanewyn Sun 30-Dec-12 11:03:05

<slinks back in>
I'm back in, starting hardcore bootcamp today & will weigh next Monday. Too embarrassed to hop on the scales now blush

Btw I found after 4 months without gluten I now can't eat it one slice gave me such bad cramps it was not worth it

MulledwineGless Sun 30-Dec-12 11:11:11

coco - thats how we all got started with other people answering our questions. Happy to help out.
I am a bit evangelical I suppose - I have seen the light!!

Boobz Sun 30-Dec-12 11:25:56

Back again. I lost over 16lbs in the previous bootcamp, and still want to lose a little more to get rid of my wobbly thighs. Not too much though - probably 5lbs total to take me to 108.

N.B. I followed an amended version of BIWI's rules as I am on the Zone diet - which is essentially low carb, but not quite the same (very strict portion control, and I am allowed some carbs)... Which works for me as I think if there was no portion control I wouldn't have lost as much as I did.

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GinotPrigio Sun 30-Dec-12 11:28:51

I'm in! Getting married on 30th March, only 3 months away and I'm still the size of a house having only lost some of my pregnancy weight (DD is now 21 months blush )

I lost some of my baby weight on Dukan last year so I know this can work if I stick with it. Looking forward to getting started ladies!

I am aiming for 1.5 stone loss.

GinotPrigio Sun 30-Dec-12 11:29:40

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NoveltySlippers Sun 30-Dec-12 11:33:04

Morning all!

I am definitely IN. Thanks for lovely warm welcome on the thread yesterday.

No scales in the family house I'm in right now (thinking of popping to John Lewis to get some in the sale - I need to know what damage I caused this Crimbo!).

At my heaviest I am over 10 stone (but being a shortie at 5'2" and 3/4 that really shows). Whenever I diet, I manage to get down to just over 9 stone, but very easily (and quickly) put it back on again.

Reasons that I think low carbing would be especially good for me:

(1) I'm a classic apple, which means that when I put on weight, it ALL goes round my middle;

(2) I get adult acne if I'm not on the pill. Prob too much testosterone and I think insulin resistance makes this hormonal imbalance worse? (Sorry - science never my strong point);

(3) History of type II diabetes in the family

(4) I practically fall into a coma after consuming pasta/choc/sweets

All these signs tell me that low carbing is the way to go! (But never tried it before, so quite nervous smile)

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Hurricanewyn have added you - sorry if I've missed any others on phones

NigellasGuest Sun 30-Dec-12 11:37:09

<crawls in on hands & knees, mince-pie stuffed stomach dragging on carpet>

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cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 11:45:33

Thans mulled smile
Is bacon ok? Maks and Spencer do a precooked crispy bacon, it's lovely in scrambled eggs.

cathyandclaire Sun 30-Dec-12 11:52:17

Hi all, thanks Biwi and Willie for whipping us all back into shape...I'm adding myself on again as I seem to have got lost from the list <bottom lip quivers>
Have piled on 6lb of bloat over Xmas so joining to lose that and then stay on the straight and narrow.
But I'll just have a mince pie while I'm waiting!

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Count me in - have been low carbing since August and am down 4 stone, with 2 to go. I could do with getting back to basics for a couple of weeks, and especially with dropping the alcohol!

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cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 12:06:41

My shoping list is done shock. I need to get batteries for my scales I think. I have 15 and 11 year old DDs and I dont like them to see me weighting myself. I'll have to do it under the cover of darkness grin.

I'm going to start now, I'm back to work on thursday so this will give me time to get organised <glup>.

cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 12:07:28

Some of you have done so well!

I'm seriously impressed.

Missjinglebells Sun 30-Dec-12 12:10:20

Can I join please, never joined before I am a newbie to MN. smile

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sun 30-Dec-12 12:48:34

Welcome everyone!

The key to success, you will find, is planning ahead. This is not an easy WOE (way of eating) to follow if you leave things to chance - especially if you are eating on-the-go.

Make sure that you have got plenty of low carb stuff to hand, and that you know what the rules are, and what veg/salad is on the allowed list. You might find it helpful to print the list of veg off, so that it is easily to hand. And remember, for the first couple of weeks of Bootcamp, you should really aim to focus on eating veg/salad that is no more than 3g carbs per 100g.

You also need to prepare yourself for the fact that you might feel a bit shitty for the first few days. This is often called 'carb flu'. The more carb-based your current diet, the more likely this is to happen. If you are feeling dreadful, drink plenty of water and make sure you add more salt to your food. A cup of boiling water with some Marmite/Bovril/Oxo can help here. Take paracetamol if you have a headache. If you are really, really suffering, add back in some carbs, and take it a bit more slowly. A slice of wholemeal toast, for example. (However, the aim of Bootcamp is to get you quickly into ketosis, and thus starting to see weight loss quickly - so if you can resist the carbs in the first few days, this is better).

Ketosis is the state your body goes into when it starts to burn fat for fuel, rather than carbs. It is often confused with ketoacidosis, which is a dangerous condition associated with diabetes.

You will know that you are in ketosis initially, as you will find that you are no longer hungry - you may even forget to eat. (Yes - it's true!). You may also find you have a metallic, unpleasant taste in your mouth. Drink plenty of water, and it should soon disappear.

But above all, come to this thread (and the subsequent ones - I will start a new thread each week), and share your experiences and ask any questions that you may have.

It's a peculiar way of eating to start with, and it will feel like a real leap of faith. We are so conditioned to see carbs as good and fat as bad, that telling you to eat lots of fat will feel very wrong. But what we're doing here is re-balancing the proportions of food that we eat. Currently, 'healthy eating' guidelines tell us that we should be eating carbs:protein:fat. What we will be doing is reversing that, so we are eating fat:protein:carbs. Eating fat does not make you fat! Despite what we have been told for the last 40 years or so, fat is good for us. It's the carbs that are dangerous. High carb diets are associated with obesity, hypertension, diabetes, cancer and Alzheimers.

If you're worried about something, or have a question, ask it here. If I can't answer it, there's bound to be someone who can.

And above all - good luck!

thenightsky Sun 30-Dec-12 12:52:47

What do you do when out and about? I'm currently sat in kings cross station and there's only sandwiches and crisp type stuff on offer.

I carry a couple of Babybels in my handbag for emergencies. Peperamis are good for that too, or those John West tuna pouches - always take a plastic fork with you. Sometimes you can find biltong on sale in snack outlets, but not often. If the worst comes to the worst, I pop into a supermarket or similar and get a pack of cold cooked meat, and eat that.

GreenyEyes Sun 30-Dec-12 12:59:00

Grabbing a quick bite/ lunch on the go is pretty difficult tbh- carbs everywhere.

If you can find an M&S they tend to have little pots of prawns, sausages, ham etc, otherwise it's buying a sandwich and scraping out the filling (yes really!) in my case.

As BIWI says, being prepared really helps.

On the plus side, dining out in restaurants is ridiculously easy on this WOE, far easier than if you're trying to eat low fat/low cal.

HugAndRoll Sun 30-Dec-12 12:59:11

I weighed again this morning, 11.11.2. Still want to lose 2.7.2.

I've started LC today so I'm not so bad for the hardcore bootcamp as pretty much my whole diet is carbs. I will still eat fruit and as much coffee (with blue milk not green) as I need to get me through not having grains and chocolate so I can be strict come 7th.

Had total full fat Greek yogurt for breakfast. Could only eat 2/3 of a small pot. It's true, fat fills you up.

Need to remind myself to drink water though, that will be my biggest downfall.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sun 30-Dec-12 13:01:13

thenightsky - is there a M&S Simply Food at Kings Cross? If so, buy yourself some ham or prawns or roast beef. They also make individual portions of cheese (avoid the one with cranberries!), and there is usually one salad bowl which doesn't come with pasta/rice/noodles/potatoes.

Doshusallie Sun 30-Dec-12 13:06:03

Have just made smoked salmon, courgette, mushroom and cheese omelettes cooked in butter, for the whole family for lunch. Bloody yum.

Doshusallie Sun 30-Dec-12 13:08:31

Cocole - tell me to piss off if you like, but......I 'hated' mayo and greek yoghurt before I started this woe. What I gradually realised is that I had conditioned myself to hate it, so that I could endure the low fat, low calorie hell I lived with for 20 odd years. Actually I didn't hate it. Actually, having gradually tated it in different things and re-educating my taste buds, I realised I like both very much! Just saying.....

thisisthestory Sun 30-Dec-12 13:10:51

Me too - need to lose a bit of baby weight, 12 lbs or so, and DS3 is 8 months old today!

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tartiflette Sun 30-Dec-12 13:31:40

Ooh yes me too please. Fell off the wagon dramatically in November, I think I had gained 8 or 9lb even without Christmas. So I need to lose about a stone depending on how the weigh in goes...
Could someone possibly add me to the list cos I'm on my phone.

Lastyearsmodel Sun 30-Dec-12 13:56:38

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makingchanges
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JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother 
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel

<deep breath> OK, I'm in. There, said it now. Completely new to LC but have been reading India Knight's book - is that similar enough to bootcamp?

I am a total carb addict, emotional eater, lots to lose but will start with 3 stone. Nothing else has worked and am feeling pretty hopeless but this makes sense to me.

2 questions - I have DC 6, 4 and 2 plus DP to cook for - any tips for cooking for family as well as LCing?

We're on a tight budget - will it be expensive? Again, budget tips v much appreciated.

oliviafrombolivia Sun 30-Dec-12 13:59:10

My name is Olivia and I am a carb addict. Too scared to look at the scales right now, only 5' 2" though and need to lose several stones. Have done Atkins before (years ago) once into it, it really, really worked - the lack of appetite and craving for sweet things is amazing when you have got into it.

I have tried several times since, but I fall at the first hurdle as I feel a bit sicky with all the high fat food. It is very odd, I eat loads of high fat food combined with carbohydrates fine, a fry up (with toast) is my dream breakfast, as soon as you take the bread away, it makes me feel sick..

Am going to give it another go. Would love some suggested meals from people more inventive than me.. as a zero imagination cook I would love to get away from meat plus vegetables. Thank you all and good luck.

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jan2013 Sun 30-Dec-12 14:02:08

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TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
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Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
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EwanHoozami
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makingchanges
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Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013

im in too! joining all you lovely ladies to start the new year of low carbing. aiming for health, would like to lose the skinny fat look and tone up while gaining consistency and stability in my eating. tried a dress on yesterday and it inspired me to go on a run - i seriously need to do something about this and not let myself go.

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SilverBaubles33
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ZzzenAgain
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SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
Viperidae
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
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Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
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makingchanges
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CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
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Jacaqueen Sun 30-Dec-12 14:51:51

Oh please someone add me in or I shall go in a huff!

NewStartSameStory Sun 30-Dec-12 14:52:46

Coco wrt the too early to face food and making stuff. I thought that but actually on the days when I start at 4am and that will be three days a week as of the 7th <sobs> I find throwing a few eggs in a pan and scrambling them (eaten on own or with a few other bits thrown in) will actually see me through until about 9am whilst undertaking intensive training and without snacks being needed. A gallon of water is always required though. figuratively not literally

For those of you doing intensive sports it is possible without the carbs but you do need to make a few slight variations to make it more manageable and assist with the weight loss. However, I found that doing this after bootcamp, whilst making bootcamp harder in the short term (because actually most advise you to reduce your expectations of what you can achieve in training slightly and that isn't possible for me) i had no cravings by the end of it and inclusion of the tweaks after this didn't result in me slipping completely off the wagon. I suspect I wouldn't have hit the wagon properly if i had included the adaptations immediately. However, all are different. And what ever you do it really is planning that makes the difference. Most people end up cheating as a result of poor planning. I know i have.

Once you get your head around the Woe (way of eating) it is brilliant but the hardest bit in my opinion is getting the thinking changed. And for me it is not a diet. It really is just a way of eating. And it suits me. Skin is clearer. Migraines virtually none existent. Fluid build up in joints less painful.

Cocolepew - breakfast ideas: make breakfast frittatas and keep in fridge to eat on the run or unusually just chop up bacon and mushroom and fry it then fry an egg to serve over the top takes about 10 mins max.

Cooking for family: we have lots of casseroles and DH and I just don't have the rice that DD does. Or spaghetti bolognese - we just don't have the spaghetti etc. Many of our meals are meat and veg eg steaks, salmon, low carb sausages, chicken etc. then loads if green veg just no potatoes or rice or pasta if that makes sense. You can make cauliflower rice too though or celeriac mash as substitutes if you want. We haven't found it requires any separate meals anyway is the main thing!

Lastyear - budget wise if you aren't buying rubbish high carb foods I found the food bills stayed the same - we spent more on meat but less on crisps etc.. I can highly recommend a slow cooker - really cheap bits of meat taste delish when cooked all day long.

ArfAPandaTreacle Sun 30-Dec-12 15:01:57

This diet is just SO expensive. Ive done it before and it cost a fortune. I just spent £50 in Tesco rather than £20.

Meat is so expensive.

It would make a difference if I could eat cheese or eggs.

Thats why Im planning on doing this for just two weeks before I calm it again. I'll probably add quinoa or brown rice to meals afterwards.

Until the, just eating meat and vegetables costs a bomb. (Where as pasta, potato, bread and rice is far, far more affordable.)

cathyandclaire Sun 30-Dec-12 15:07:48

Arf ...Meat can be expensive if it's fillet steak all the way...but cheaper cuts can be great if cooked slowly (lamb neck, pork belly etc) and Lidl are brilliant for low carb stuff and I've found you pretty quickly need less to satisfy you...I reckon I save a fortune on the latte/ choc/crisps etc and vegetables tend to be much cheaper than fruit. So it can really work when you're in the swing of things.

You can eat eggs? Where does it say you can't?!?

You can also eat cheese. It slows down some people, but not others so you might want to experiment with that but you can eat it.

It can be done cheaply, I know others on the bootcamp thread have done it. You can buy the really cheap cuts if meat if you can cook them slowly over a long time. We batch cook and freeze portions as well. I think if on a budget you have to plan as well and find the bargains in the shops. I think Lidl have good value meats.

In all honesty if you are going to reintroduce pasta and the like after two weeks then perhaps low carb isn't for you? It simply won't work to eat high fat and carbs...

ArfAPandaTreacle Sun 30-Dec-12 15:10:43

No, I said it would be easier if I could eat eggs. Bf ds is anaphylactic to milk and eggs.

ArfAPandaTreacle Sun 30-Dec-12 15:12:11

I think I need to get a new slow cooker and get those cheaper cuts. You're right, thank you.

ArfAPandaTreacle Sun 30-Dec-12 15:14:24

Also, I didnt say I had any intention of reintroducing pasta.

I said quinoa and possibly brown rice.

Sorry Panda I misread that in my head and you did mention it earlier in the thread sorry! We also bulk our meals out with whatever veg was on offer, there is always something reduced, two for one etc... That can help too. Also keep things like the broccoli stalk ad make it into soup - sounds horrid but is delish, boil up with some stock, whizz up and add dash if cream. Yummy!

arf you can buy the cheaper cuts of meat (breast of lamb, pork belly, fatty mince), and due to the controlled blood sugar levels I find i often just need less to eat anyway

admittedly the first couple of weeks may well be more expensive as you can find you eat more while you combat the carb cravings and get into ketosis. but once you're in the swing of it i find our food budget is the same if not less than before

(and that is with dp still eating carbs too)

introducing quinoa/brown rice will add bulk and may well work fine for you, but the danger is it will reignite carb cravings so do be careful

cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 15:23:34

Thanks again, I did try greek yoghut a few weeks ago, but hated it! I might give mayo another go.

I've did my shopping and I'd forgotten how hard it was to find cooked ham with sugar or dextrose added hmm.

Went to have a look in Iceland and got a few bags of frozen veg. They even do a beansprouts,and peppers one. Their cheese coleslaw is only 75p a tub. Good offers on cheese as well, if you're on a budget.

I've just had, lettuce, cucumber,cooked ham and cheese coleslaw for lunch.

We usually have meat, roasties and veg for our dinners, so I'll just not have the spuds.
Lamb chops tonight, without the mint sauce smile

I also got a battery for my scales <cries>

Well done coco - that sounds like a great start!

ArfAPandaTreacle Sun 30-Dec-12 15:24:58

Thanks, you're all helpful.

Last time I did it for 2-3 weeks but stopped because I realised in the second and third week Id got it all wrong!

My son was bf a LOT then, he doesnt feed anywhere near as much now so my hunger generally is far less, that should help.

Soups are a good idea, I didnt make soups last time (love soups as well!)

Can I ask, WRT bolognase, how do you make it? I cook from scratch most of the time but bolognase I never managed to make tasty enough, so cheated and used Dolmio. And I assume Dolmio is a no-no.

ArfAPandaTreacle Sun 30-Dec-12 15:26:01

Also, where do I find cheap cuts of lamb? I only find extortianate cuts of lamb in Tesco...

colette Sun 30-Dec-12 15:29:01

Thanks for all the tips so far, I added my name last night but not aims/objectives ;
I want to lose about 12lbs as I am 5ft 3.5 it really shows, glad to see there are other shorties wink
keep going with meal ideas as I will need to stock up , dd is presently making rocky road blush

cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 15:31:09

<Polishes halowink>

Asda is very good for decent meat at a good price (well mine is). Definitely look at Iceland for their frozen veg, really good variety and a good price also.
The price of cooked chicken is ridiculous, I'm going to buy one and roast it myself. Sainsbury's do a medium chicken for £6 and its lovely, lots of meat on it too.

i get breast of lamb in sainsbury's

Ooh and shin beef (heaven) in sainsbury's too - it's taste the difference but about £2.50 for enough meat for two meals for us

CordeliaChase Sun 30-Dec-12 15:35:42

I did celebrity slim before my wedding last year, that was a low carb diet with two shakes as well. It worked really well, I lost a lot of weight quite quickly. Since then I've slowly put the weight back on (moved abroad with DH and I'm currently unable to work due to visa restrictions). I seriously need to do something, my body is so unhappy with my current diet. I am clearly eating too many carbs, which makes me sluggish. It's going to be pretty damn hard on an extremely tit budget, but it has to be done!

I make this one here after making her multi mince (recipe on same site). The key is cooking it for a long time so the mince is nice and juicy I think - I know others that use a slow cooker for it too.

ArfAPandaTreacle Sun 30-Dec-12 15:38:42

I bought cooked chicken today, another rookie error!!!

I cant get meat from Asda, nearly all of it says 'contains lactic somethingorother' its bound to be dairy related and a risk I cannot take with DS.

However, there are some great ideas that I have now to make it less costly.
thank you

CordeliaChase Sun 30-Dec-12 15:42:39

Can't believe my iPad auto corrected tight to tit.....

Doshusallie Sun 30-Dec-12 15:45:49

Greek yoghurt with vanilla extract cocole?

I have never stopped using dolmio or jarred curry sauces.....

Doshusallie Sun 30-Dec-12 15:46:31

A tit budget you say? Intriguing....grin

Panda what meat are you looking at? I've just been on their website and all the meat I can find, frozen or otherwise, says 100% beef or lamb or whatever? I can't see how meat alone would have any ingredients?

cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 15:48:36

I tried it with fresh berries, I kept eating while pulling a pained face grin

I noticed a lot if the ready cooked chicken had dextrose or brown sugar in it, sometimes both shock.

I bought the cooked ham from Asda's deli counter, it was lovely.

cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 15:49:00

"Tit" grin

cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 15:50:05

Asda's butcher meat is just, umm, meat grin

Panda cooked chicken prob fine but cheaper and nicer to cook yourself. Eg roast one day for meal then have leftovers for various other meals/snacks. Chicken thighs (boneless ones) are tonnes cheaper than breast meat I find and are lovely.

ArfAPandaTreacle Sun 30-Dec-12 15:52:57

I looked at loads of stuff but it was quite some time ago so Ive no idea what. We are going there tomorrow though so I'll check again.

ArfAPandaTreacle Sun 30-Dec-12 15:56:36

That was lovely and partronising Colcole, thank you. smile.

As a mum with a child allergic to a ridiculous amount of stuff, I check the labels of everything, all of the time. And I have not bought meat from Asdas for sometime because it was a problem.

cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 16:09:25

Oopps sorry, wasn't meaning to insult you.

I have just weighted myself,with clothes on, apres pee.

12st 10lbs shock

I'm aiming for 2 stone to start with

Lastyearsmodel Sun 30-Dec-12 16:11:21

I stand corrected - I am on a tit budget. Sounds much better.

Thanks for the tips, ladies, am feeling like this is more doable.

Doshusallie Sun 30-Dec-12 16:18:27

Weighing -to be done pre breakfast, post poo if possible, and before you drink anything or add deodorant or moisturiser, naked. grin

Doshusallie Sun 30-Dec-12 16:19:37

Coco weighing now will also be weighing all the food and fluids you have consumed today, plus your clothes. You can knock 3 pounds off right there...

cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 16:19:40

If I do that I expect to be at least a stone lighter grin

MulledwineGless Sun 30-Dec-12 16:20:02

Arf if you are in budget for meat try Aldi or Lidl. Their meat is good value but I am not sure regarding dairy intolerance. What do you need to look at on the labels and we can keep our eyes peeled for some bargains for you. Can second breast of lamb and pork belly in sainsburys- both tasty

cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 16:20:07

3 stone you say.......?

Panda, this woe might work out better for you as it works best when you cook from scratch. It will allow you to be in complete control of the ingredients which would be fab. I think what coco was trying to say is that fresh meat (and fish) will be just that, just meat with no added ingredients. Prepared meat might have stuff added to it but fresh (or frozen fresh stuff) should be just that. Have a look tomorrow and report back so we can help if needed!

captainmummy Sun 30-Dec-12 16:55:54

Won;t be joining the spreadsheet but will be lurking for inspiration and support to lose the final 3 lbs.
i've been doing this WOE since june, and I love it. I don't find that it's more expensive (and I speak as a former nearly-vegetarian, carb-queen)- the vegs I buy now are the cheaper ones; swede, turnip, celeriac, cauli; a saving over the previous red peppers, potatoes, butternut squashes, loads of fruit. I still don't buy much meat, and use mushrooms and eggs a lot more. Any meat I do use is a bit-player on the plate, like a few bits of chicken in a cream leek sauce with cauli mash, or in soup, or beef stew with mushrooms and chunky veg.

I do eat too much cheese/dairy, I know, so will be following Bootcamp for 2 weeks (again) to cut it out and hopefully make a difference.

cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 17:01:51

The bag of broccoli, cauliflower and carrots from Iceland was £1.

ArfAPandaTreacle Sun 30-Dec-12 17:08:05

Im 10.8 stone. Id like to be a stone lighter but that'll never happen.

I simply want to see 9 stone anything.

thenightsky Sun 30-Dec-12 17:20:22

Where is the list of permitted veg to print off that someone mentioned up-thread?

cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 17:22:57

Sorry for random pricing post but I was making donner and thought I'd share.

BIWI listed them on one of her posts, thenlightsky.

On the spreadsheet

timidviper Sun 30-Dec-12 17:28:56

Sorry, have re-copied this list as decided to go back to one of my older names (it's me, Viperidae, in disguise):
Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge

MulledwineGless Sun 30-Dec-12 18:04:13

Coco
How does one make donner? I have always wondered what went into those kebabs wink

cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 18:07:20

Freudian slip grin

vnmum Sun 30-Dec-12 18:11:47

Can someone please add me to the list, am on tablet so can't work out how to copy and paste.

I started back on the wagon yesterday as just couldn't bear any more carbs and the subsequent weight gain. 3 1/4 lbs off after one day, so i am happy and feel much better in myself for not eating carbs. It does mean i won't have a huge bootcamp first week loss like most of you will but that doesn't bother me, just wanted to get back on track smile

Willowisp Sun 30-Dec-12 18:23:47

Oh me, me, ME !

I've got a massive Xmas cake which keeps calling me, although I'm about to slice it up & freeze out of temptations way grin

I've enjoyed the low carb stuff & although I can fit into most of my clothes, there is another goal of 2 x skirts...last worn 23 years ago shock

I'd like to add willowispsMAMA, who has been low carbing (under my instruction wink) since mid November & has lost 1 st 5 lbs.

She looked so much better, I burst into tears when I saw her.

Have faith all that are not sure, this WOE rocks !

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sun 30-Dec-12 18:27:03

When I'm cooking for the whole family - i.e. when I'm cooking grin - I just leave out the carb element for me. So if we're having salmon stir fry, I have the salmon and the stir-fried veg, but no rice or noodles. There are some dishes where this is a problem - e.g. risotto, lasagne, kedgeree - which means I don't cook them, unless someone in the family particularly pesters me for them. In which case I will have something different. But this is very rare.

For further inspiration Here is the Bootcamp recipe thread lots of lovely low carb ideas here, for vegetarians as well as us carnivores.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sun 30-Dec-12 18:29:12

And this WOE need not be more expensive than any other - yes, it tends to focus around meat/fish, rather than pasta/rice, but there are plenty of good, cheap cuts of meat available. And the supermarkets always have some kind of offer on meat - 3 for £10/2 for £6 etc.

Great cuts for low carbing are those which are fattier, which tend to be cheaper anyway. So breast of lamb, pork belly, chicken thighs and fatty mince.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sun 30-Dec-12 18:30:05

ilovemyteddy - sorry, I didn't answer you! Yes, as far as I know the Briffa thing is still happening, at the end of January.

Willowisp Sun 30-Dec-12 18:32:32

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama

added the last 3 smile

Vnmum

I'm not really expecting see big drops either as stuck to it but for me it's now a Permeant woe not short term its a life change

.< adjusts glare of halo >> wink But when had a few days of I did see big drops ond week was 7lb admittedly that included the 3lb I had put on after falling

MisForMumNotMaid Sun 30-Dec-12 18:45:00

Could someone please add DH and I to the list. We started in the summer time, under a previous name, but then I did an unsuccessful stint of weight watchers online that confused all my high fat vs low fat thinking.

We've rather enjoyed our Christmas and pre Christmas eating and now, well on the 7th, need to kick start are eating and exercising regime.

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN

Don't flounce Jacs!!!! wink

Stylelostinlabour Sun 30-Dec-12 18:46:46

Hello count me in I'd make a great low carb roast the amount of fat I have on me at the moment.

Please could someone add me as the iPhone won't let me copy and paste?

5.8 and 13.10 (after a poo, wee and naked with one hand touching the side for balance).

Want to lose 2.5 stone please

Right off to look at spreadsheet and clear the cupboards of th crap

Is total Greek OK to eat?

ArfAPandaTreacle Sun 30-Dec-12 18:49:52

Ah, I didnt realise it was starting on the 7th. Ive already stocked up and psyched up. Im starting tomorrow.

NoveltySlippers Sun 30-Dec-12 18:51:37

Hi all

Thought I'd make a start today and did my shopping. Got lots of good veg, meat, yoghurt etc.

Had smoked salmon, eggs and tomatoes for breakfast - was delicious. Ham and salad for lunch.

Then caved spectacularly at dinner time when family member cooked delicious looking pasta with leeks and gammon.

I think I'll be alright back at home, but these social gatherings are going to be difficult I can see. (I know it's a question of getting the cravings out of your system first, so it's not such a gargantuan act of willpower....)

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sun 30-Dec-12 18:56:37

You'll have a head start on us then, Arf! grin

Stylelostinlabour - Total is perfect. Just make sure you get the full fat one not the fat free/reduced one.

thenightsky Sun 30-Dec-12 19:04:40

ok... question... can we have any alcohol? Of course I know lager is dead carbie, but what about voddie and tonic or wine?

God I'm such a novice blush

Stylelostinlabour Sun 30-Dec-12 19:06:12

Oh great will eat all the fat free stuff this week, it'll be a chore but needs must

Doshusallie Sun 30-Dec-12 19:20:33

Nightsky - alcohol verboten on BOOTCAMP, certainly first two weeks. (although I actually never manage this)

If you can't avoid it, dry white, red, or gin/vodka with slimline tonic are best choices.

cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 19:22:51

This is the bad time of the day for me. I usually have a bar of Dairy Milk and some crisps/nuts, beer or cider.

Dropping the snacking alone, will probably be between 4-500 calories shock

NewStartSameStory Sun 30-Dec-12 19:27:34

and the rest coco you can easily consume nearly 600 cals in one chocolate bar depending on the bar chosen.

Nightsky, as Dosh says no alcohol for the two weeks of Bootcamp. Best almost zero carb drink though is vodka, soda, lime and ice. I've had to force myself to like it ........ ahem. Almost too much. blush

NewStartSameStory Sun 30-Dec-12 19:28:45

BUT this isn't a low calorie diet!!!! It is a low/no carb diet and the calories can be scary if you count them so don't. Many of us have made this mistake.

ScillyCow Sun 30-Dec-12 19:29:55

How does today look?
B: Scrambled egg (in butter), mushrooms and tomatoes
L: Big cheese salad
Snack: Cheese and celery
Dinner: Tuna steak, asparagus, spinach and french beans.

Loads of water. 2 cups decaf tea with cream.

Too much cheese? I am struggling a bit with snacks (I don't eat meat)
Will go back to rules again - I have got a bit confused with the cheese / no cheese thing as I read Pig to Twig today grin

FellatioNelson Sun 30-Dec-12 19:34:11

Oops sorry BIWI, I got held up, the traffic was terrible, but I am here now miss, and I'm in. grin

Coincidentally sort of started LCing today, although I have had a bit of a softly softly start, food wise. Not exactly hardcore, but no booze though, so GO ME!

cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 19:37:27

I'm not very adventurous, I can't be bothered to cook, all those lovely recepies are wasted on me. I do like the look of the cheese crackers though .

After bootcamp what are you allowed? The only thing I think I will strughle with is no bread or biscuits for breakfast. I buy a sugar free wheaten loaf, from the bakers, usually and I'm hoping that will be allowed.

I'm useless grin

cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 19:38:30

struggle excuse my typos.

Looks lovely scilly - did you have butter on your veg, and oil on your salad? You can have too much cheese, but you're probably ok (I think Atkins says 2-3 ounces?)

Also, did you enjoy eating it? grin

Lifeisontheup Sun 30-Dec-12 19:43:20

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Lifeisontheup

Was doing really well on low carb and then fell off the wagon. Need to drop a dress size at least.

ScillyCow Sun 30-Dec-12 19:45:00

Mmmmm. Yes Wllie; Butter on the veg.

And it was ALL delicious. I am sure it will change, but i am on day 5 and totally loving it - I am not missing the carbs at all.

(I am secretly scared that I will weigh half a stone more when I weigh in 3 days time - seems so WRONG eating butter and cream with impunity!).

Gilbertwasthebestcat Sun 30-Dec-12 20:02:18

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat

I did Dukan earlier in the year and lost over a stone easily. Maintained for a while but put it all back on and need support I think. Can you eat flavoured yoghurt? On Dukan you were allowed lemon and vanilla I think.

Doshusallie Sun 30-Dec-12 20:04:52

Tea - chopped sprouts, shredded leek and cabbage and bacon, cooked in butter, then added double cream and chunks of Stilton. Was divine and am absolutely stuffed. Also had a glass and a half of red.

cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 20:06:01

I'm hungry.

HugAndRoll Sun 30-Dec-12 20:07:21

My asda delivery came, they substituted my full fat Greek yogurt for 0% natural (obvs rejected) but it made me smile.

I had scrambled egg, bacon fried in butter and green beans with butter for dinner. I was given a Yule log today which I'm craving but I'm trying to ignore.

I already have a bit of a headache and have had some 70% dark chocolate which is ok in the briffa book in moderation. Will be stricter as I go through the week.

Coco, if you're hungry eat! Cheese, pâté on celery, ham with mayo, hard boiled egg with mayo or butter. Whatever low carb/high fat munch you fancy!

HugAndRoll Sun 30-Dec-12 20:31:08

Argh, craving carbs. I'm not hungry. My brain thinks I am but I'm really not. Drinking another 750ml bottle of water which is helping.

NoveltySlippers Sun 30-Dec-12 20:45:39

Hugandroll I feel your pain. There is a mince pie looking at me, but I'm ignoring it. Oh yes I am.

Heartstart Sun 30-Dec-12 20:48:37

I'm in from 7th. Is anyone else going to Briffa event on 27th?

janx Sun 30-Dec-12 20:52:39

Can I join please. I don't have scales at home - was doing low carb but have fallen off the wagon and feel I have put quite a bit back on. I really struggle with breakfasts as I rarely want eggs in the morning... Am going to do more meal planning. If anyone has breakfast ideas please share grin

cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 20:53:24

Crisis over! I forgot I had bought carrot sticks (I don't like celery). I've been eating full fat Philadelphia of them.

thenightsky Sun 30-Dec-12 20:55:28

Does all this cooking in butter mean that olive oil or rapeseed oil is not allowed?

NoveltySlippers Sun 30-Dec-12 20:58:59

Yes - I was wondering about olive oil too! Anyone know?

Jacaqueen Sun 30-Dec-12 21:07:05

Thank you

My understanding is that you need to be a little careful with cooking with some non-animal fats as they can become trans-fats via the heating process. I think olive oil is one of them, not sure about rapeseed (olive oil fine for salad dressings of course as it is raw). Some people use coconut oil instead which I think is ok to cook with, as well as lots of benefits (and dairy free for those who can't consume dairy). It can be expensive though if bought from regular supermarkets, so I think many order online or get from Asian supermarkets. I haven't used it myself though

Pretty sure that cooking in olive oil isn't great anyway? Something to do with the way it changes during the cooking process I seem to remember. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong although its ok to use as a dressing. I use a lot of ground nut oil.

NoveltySlippers Sun 30-Dec-12 21:10:46

Thanks willie that makes sense.

Just reading through the rules though and seen something about 'breath odour' hmm

Just how bad might that get? confused

Ahh x-post with willie who explained it far better than I could. grin

To those who are struggling with mince pies etc., remember we don't start Bootcamp until 7 Jan. swigs wine snouts chocs

Doshusallie Sun 30-Dec-12 21:16:41

Carrots aren't great - quite carby....

ArfAPandaTreacle Sun 30-Dec-12 21:19:37

What's the deal with soya milk (say, 2-3 tea amounts, not as full drinks) or coconut milk (say 2-3 coffee amounts) each day.

timidviper Sun 30-Dec-12 21:26:52

I am impressed at those of you who have started already! We have 8 friends round tomorrow night for a NY dinner party, having decided we can't be arsed braving public places. One friend is bringing canapes and another, her famous pavlova, I am making the main course so this will be my swansong of misbehaving and will get back to being good within the next few days.

cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 21:27:08

I didn't eat very many... blush

anewdispensation Sun 30-Dec-12 21:58:18

Quick question: I don't eat eggs at all. Will I survive? I am a rice addict! Rice and coke are my biggest undoings!! I just need some breakfast tips please.

GreenyEyes Sun 30-Dec-12 22:00:14

Don't worry Coco a few won't have hurt.

Sainsbo's have a jar of coconut oil in the world foods aisle for approx £1.79- there's a same size 'organic' jar in the oils aisle for £6.99 shock

GreenyEyes Sun 30-Dec-12 22:03:03

anew- hmm tricky, eggs are my breakfast staple tbh.

But I sometimes have cold meats and cheese with mayo, kippers, mackerel etc

anewdispensation Sun 30-Dec-12 22:06:11

Thanks Greenyeyes. I am not a big brekkie person but BIWI's rules say breakfast is compulsory so I guess I will just interchange full fat greek yoghurt and cold meats and cheese. I am looking forward to this.

I see parsnips are not on the allowed veg list? why is that? Also are herbal teas such as green tea and mint tea allowed?

GreenyEyes Sun 30-Dec-12 22:19:21

I think (and BIWI will kick my arse if I'm speaking out of turn) that breakfast needn't be a full blown affair, but that even a few slices of chicken whilst stood at the fridge is enough to kickstart your metabolism and set you up for the day (so that you're not craving the biscuits at 11am)

I still struggle with breakfast, but find that I can eat it no problem if I take something with me and eat once I'm at my desk (so been up and about for quite a while)

Re parsnips, most root veg are quite sugary (potatoes, carrots, onions etc). Swede is good though.

Herbal teas are fine as long as you're not sweetening them smile

thenightsky Sun 30-Dec-12 22:20:56

What's the total carb count for a day meant to be?

Yddraigoldragon Sun 30-Dec-12 22:24:44

Quick note about vanilla extract - lovely to add to the Total yoghurt for brekkie. PLEASE read the bottle.. the little fat bottle that everyone uses and the vanilla paste that is now available has loads of sugar in it!

I have found vanilla extract in Sainsburies in little bottles (about £1) on the shelf with the food colourings etc.. which does not contain sugar.

I love it, use it in coffee with cream and it makes a real treat - but watch out for sugar.

anewdispensation Sun 30-Dec-12 22:28:32

Thanks Greenyeyes. Like I said I am looking forward to this and cant wait to see the weight falling off and STAYING off.

poorpaws Sun 30-Dec-12 22:30:31

BIWI
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
poorpaws

I want to get down to 9st 7lbs. Was 9st 9lbs in beginning of November but now up to 10st 3 or 4 so count me in.

cocolepew United States Sun 30-Dec-12 22:33:32

Oh kippers, I love kipppers.

froufroulala Sun 30-Dec-12 22:38:35

Eek am I too late to put my name down? Have not read anything yet just posted to get on the list.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sun 30-Dec-12 22:48:13

Thenightsky - we don't have a daily allowance. Just follow Bootcamp rules and you will be fine.

Re yoghurt - cant remember who was asking - but a BIG FAT NO to flavoured yoghurt! Part of eating this way is about breaking the addiction to sweet things, as well as the avoidance of artificial ingredients

Gilbertwasthebestcat Sun 30-Dec-12 22:55:11

I hate plain yoghurt but I guess I will have to get used to it as I really want to break my addiction to sugar/ sweet stuff. Still can't get my head around all the full fat stuff though.

NoveltySlippers Sun 30-Dec-12 23:03:18

Erk!

I don't want to jump ship before the ship has even sailed (in fact I've been reading the Gary Taubes book all weekend and getting very excited) - but I've just been googling and found that some people get dry eyes on low carb diets.

Am sure this won't affect any of you, but I've been really struggling with dry eyes for over a year. Have only just seemed to get it under control (tiuch wood) with fish oils. Have read that people upped their carbs back up to 40-50g a day and the dry eye went away.

I'm not sure if I can risk exacerbating the problem again (I wear contacts and it's been a real source of misery for me).

I may have to stick with a low-er carb WOE (eg. Low GI or Zone-type) and keep my carbs at 40g rather than 20g.

Will do some more reading. I'm a bit gutted, as I'm convinced that low carb is good for you, but have had such misery with the dry eyes...

(Sorry for long post!)

coldethyl Sun 30-Dec-12 23:05:09

<deep breath> ok, I'd like to join. I've been lurking on the other threads since late July and have lost and put back on the same half stone twice now. I do really well low carbing for about a month then something happens (hols, illness, injury) and I fall off the wagon. I have no brakes at all when it comes to bread, so one slice usually leads to three. Or four. And then we had Christmas. I feel positively leaden and I was 10st 4lbs this morning. I would like to be at least 9st 5lbs (pre baby weight), but truly I'm best at 9st (haven't seen that since we got married, last century!).

I can't find the full list, can someone add me to the bottom of it?

PromQueenWithin Sun 30-Dec-12 23:18:25

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin

I would like to lose a stone to get back to where I was a year ago. Need to give up bread, cakes and chocolate!

froufroulala Sun 30-Dec-12 23:20:22

Have just welghed myself & now know why I can barely walk without getting breathless. Think I must be the heaviest here. Am 16'10 & 5'7. How stupid am I - no need to answer that.

caramelwaffle Sun 30-Dec-12 23:22:32

Signing back in for second round of Bootcamp.

GreenyEyes Sun 30-Dec-12 23:22:34

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
coldethyl

caramelwaffle Sun 30-Dec-12 23:24:52

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
coldethyl
caramelwaffle

CJCregg Brazil Sun 30-Dec-12 23:31:54

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
coldethyl
caramelwaffle
CJCregg

I'm in. I don't even dare weigh myself, I'm the biggest I've ever been blush.

Bring It On.

I make that 64 of us so far, woo hoo!!

Met a friend today who was talking sadly about having to finish up all her lovely cheese before she starts back on her WW diet. I tried to convert her, we will see!!

mumat39 Sun 30-Dec-12 23:51:06

Loving all the ideas for meals, ESP breakfast. I have a quick question about ham? I thought processed meats were not a good idea, so when buying ham, what should I look for. I'll be getting ham, Philly, lettuce, and cucumber for breakfasts I think. Also, if I wanted to get pâté, what sort should I go for? My nearest supermarkets are sainsburys, waitrose and m&s food. Thanks in advance.

Panda, I also have a dc with many many good allergies. She's 5 now but I am so scared of her having reactions that we just don't have some things like eggs in the house. Just wanted to say hello and that I'll also be doing this without eggs and fish.

Good luck everyone. I'm a carb addict and am really hoping I can at least start this well so that I have some hope of making I through boot camp. Is it normal to be a bit ermmm scared of failing ?

mumat39 Sun 30-Dec-12 23:54:36

Food, not good, allergies. blush

NoveltySlippers Mon 31-Dec-12 00:00:58

Hi all

Sorry, when I wrote 20g vs 40g of carbs above, I actually meant 20% vs 40% carbs!

:puts head down and keeps reading low carb book so she might know/understand what she's blathering on about:

froufroulala Mon 31-Dec-12 00:02:15

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
Froufroulala

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Mon 31-Dec-12 00:06:00

Processed stuff is generally to be avoided, however, things like ham/bacon/smoked salmon etc are all nice things to have in our diets. Just try to buy the best quality that you can afford, and make sure you're not eating them at every meal/every day. (With ham, try and avoid 'formed' stuff)

SkaffenAmtiskaw Mon 31-Dec-12 00:19:06

I'm in! I feel off the wagon towards the end of the last bootcamp and I suspect I've put back on what I lost last time, which wasn't much anyway, especially as I've had to stop exercising due to an injury.

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
Froufroulala
SkaffenAmtiskaw

mumat39 Mon 31-Dec-12 00:54:51

Thanks BIWI. thanks

Womenandchickensfirst Mon 31-Dec-12 01:34:09

Hi, I would like to join too please. Lost over 3 and a half stone before last Christmas, but have put some back on over the past 6 months. Daughter getting married in May, so I would like to lose 2 stone by end of March, to buy an outfit. Also have Type 2 Diabetes, so need to for health reasons as well. Not sure how much I weigh, as too scared to get on the scales - will wait till New Years Day and take it from there. Many thanks BIWI.

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
Froufroulala
SkaffenAmtiskaw
WomenandChickensFirst

sparklypeach Mon 31-Dec-12 01:36:24

Count me in! 3.5 stone to lose. Baby now 5months old and time to take control!

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
Froufroulala
SkaffenAmtiskaw
sparklypeach

sparklypeach Mon 31-Dec-12 01:40:10

sorry women&chickens to have missed you off, took too long sending message will send again including you

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
Froufroulala
SkaffenAmtiskaw
WomenandChickensFirst
sparkly peach

Lavenderhoney Mon 31-Dec-12 03:45:01

Please can I join? Just looked at the rules and although horrified to see no wine allowed it looks ok. I want to lose 1.5 stone. I feel chubby and look chubby and nothing fits.

NellVarnish Mon 31-Dec-12 05:45:46

Ok, I'm in BIWI and Willie if you'll have me, even though I can't quite get my head round full fat Greek yoghurt and Boursin, yum. Is that really true? How can eating fat make you less fat iyswim? And this vegetable calculating of carbs seems hard. And no pasta! <wails>

Or wine!

But since I'm currently a little fat piggypig full of Quality Street and mince pies, it has got to stop. Need to lose at least two stone.

Am quite confuddled by it all but will read through thread with a glass of wine later and it will all make sense. It is Hogmanay after all ...

<waves to fellow non-runners Pistey and Sybil, fancy seeing you here> wink

NellVarnish Mon 31-Dec-12 05:48:56

Have added me and Lavenderhoney ...

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
Froufroulala
SkaffenAmtiskaw
WomenandChickensFirst
sparkly peach
Lavenderhoney
NellVarnish

TheAccidentalExhibitionist Mon 31-Dec-12 06:48:27

Can I join? I need to lose about 2 stone. Where can I find the rules?

TheAccidentalExhibitionist Mon 31-Dec-12 06:49:14

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
Froufroulala
SkaffenAmtiskaw
WomenandChickensFirst
sparkly peach
Lavenderhoney
NellVarnish
TheAccidentalExhibitionist

frenchfries22 Mon 31-Dec-12 07:15:21

I would love to join 4 stone to lose and never done low carbs before - i heart potatoes! can a non meat eater survive?

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
Froufroulala
SkaffenAmtiskaw
WomenandChickensFirst
sparkly peach
Lavenderhoney
NellVarnish
TheAccidentalExhibitionist
Frenchfries22

Jacaqueen Mon 31-Dec-12 07:29:40

Oh wow!

This is going to be so good. Look at all the new people joining us. I cannot wait.

I weighed this morning and have put on 6lbs since Christmas Eve. This coming week I am going to try and move towards Bootcamp by cutting out the obvious crap carb (handful of Skittles) and being more mindful about what I consume.

I am up early today as this is Hogmanay, and I have to clean my house ready for the coming new year. Has anyone seen a play called The Steamie? Well it will be a bit like that.

I will take this opportunity to wish everyone on this thread 'Aw Ra Best Fur Ra Bells'.Which means, I hope you all have a Happy New Year when it comes.

Right I am off to scrub my doorstep or the New Year will not arrive.

Womenandchickensfirst I am also type II diabetic - I can reccomend dr bernsteins diabetic diet book for a read about low carb and benefits for diabetes.

Breakfast ideas were listed further back around page 4/5 maybe? Basically I think the list got to:
Yoghurt, leftovers, cold meats, cheese, bacon eggs and mushrooms in various formations... I think sometimes we need to rethink breakfast entirely, the same way we rethink about fats being 'bad' on this WOE? We are conditioned to think cereal or toast, but why not meat or vegetables or whatever we want really!

sybilfaulty Mon 31-Dec-12 09:04:01

Nell! Hello there! Are you still running? I am afraid I gave up rather at the start of the summer and never really got back. I do lots of swimming though, which is good and I toy with the idea of doing C25K again but it's so very cold. Brr! Are you still running regularly? Is the thread still going? I should pop over and have a look.

This WOE is wonderful and you are going to love it. If you are veg, it is more difficult but there is still plenty. If you like eggs you will be fine. If you don't (or can't have for allergy reasons) there is still a lot of eat though you need to be a bit more creative. I think someone mentioned Rose Elliott's book " the low carb vegetarian" which might be worth a look. There are lots of yummy ideas on the bootcamp recipe thread for non meat meals as well, so why not have a wee look there.

Don't forget too about the water. You need to drink plenty to help your kidneys work and so that your liver can work on burning your fat for fuel. 2l a day minimum. I drink a lot at work but less at home, although a bottle with a sports cap makes it easier.

Right, must get up. Was going for a swim but there are no lanes on til 12. Bummer.

TaffyandTeenyTaffy Mon 31-Dec-12 09:04:18

Can you count me in too please. I need to lose three stone but would like to lose a stone or so in bootcamp. Did well on Dukan last year but it was so restrictive I gained it all when I fell off the wagon. I am hoping that my new year motivation to the support from this thread will be the answer this time!

cocolepew United States Mon 31-Dec-12 09:06:11

Morning everyone smile

Urgh,I feel awful. Banging headache and popping sinuses. I have so much fluid in me it effects my sinuses and gives me oresure headaches, I'm hoping this diet helps me.

My woo woman grin has said the fluid is from so many antibiotics after my hysterectomy in August, I had a lot of infections and ended up with 5 courses of antib's.

Hope everyone is feeling good.

I'm in. Lost a stone with Dr Briffa before Christmas but have definitely refound the carbs in December.

DH also lost 2 stone so he'll be joining me.

I'd like to get down to 11stone. Also have signed up for the Wolf Run in April which is so far out of my comfort zone I may as well be training for the moon landing.

cocolepew United States Mon 31-Dec-12 09:13:29

Can I ask a question? For those that lost weight and then put it back on, was it because you went back onto carbs or that you just ate too much carbs/over ate (any food).

I don't want to be no carb forever, but realise I have to low carb or low GI.

I am most definitely in. I've joined before & had some success (when I actually stuck to it blush) and really enjoy the WOE. I'd like to lose a half a stone in bootcamp, then another half by mid Feb. I need to lose more but am making a realistic target for my holiday at half term.

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
Froufroulala
SkaffenAmtiskaw
WomenandChickensFirst
sparkly peach
Lavenderhoney
NellVarnish
TheAccidentalExhibitionist
Frenchfries22
HavingAnOffDay

MulledwineGless Mon 31-Dec-12 09:46:36

Coco I have put on 6lbs over Christmas mainly by drinking too much and over eating - think chocolate crisps stollen etc etc
I haven't regained the 2 stone I have lost this year though and lose it pretty quickly when I go back to being Bootcamp strict. I am not on maintenance yet but those who have report that it is a case of working out what suits your body ie reintroduce slowly

Doshusallie Mon 31-Dec-12 09:54:28

Coco - I find to stay at 9 1 I really can't eat many carbs at all. I don't eat any fruit at all for example, any bread or potatoes, pasta or rice. Ever. But having said that I do drink alcohol, wine or gin, almost every night (glass or two) so if I didn 't do that I could probably eat more carbs in food I suppose.

Doshusallie Mon 31-Dec-12 09:55:10

Considers trying it.

Doshusallie Mon 31-Dec-12 09:55:26

Perhaps not today though. grin

cocolepew United States Mon 31-Dec-12 10:02:10

grin
Thanks.

JenaiMorris Mon 31-Dec-12 10:02:33

coco - I fell totally off the wagon. Bread, crisps, mash... sad

Jacaqueen Mon 31-Dec-12 10:04:14

My 6lbs has gone on in a week because I have gone from eating very few carbs to eating vast quantities due to Christmas gluttony.

Around 4lbs will be water weight which I will lose as soon as I cut out the carbs again. The other 2lbs will be fat which should go as soon as I stop acting like a sloth.

In an ideal world when you get to your target weight you would slowly start to reintroduce carbs and that way you will not put on vast quantities of weight so quickly. I have just eaten like a pig for the past 7 days.

GinotPrigio Mon 31-Dec-12 10:19:44

Oh dear, have just weighed myself and the damage is worse than I thought. 7lbs on in the last week blush . I am now a very hefty 13st for my 5ft 6".

I am starting tomorrow as I really don't have any time to spare (getting married on 30th March!). Is anyone starting tomorrow too?

coldethyl Mon 31-Dec-12 10:20:00

Oops, three of us fell of the bottom last night, so I've put us back on the list.

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
Froufroulala
SkaffenAmtiskaw
WomenandChickensFirst
sparkly peach
Lavenderhoney
NellVarnish
TheAccidentalExhibitionist
Frenchfries22
HavingAnOffDay
coldethyl
CaramelWaffle
CJCregg

MulledwineGless Mon 31-Dec-12 10:26:49

Ginot I'm starting today
I feel bloated and look like shit so that's me firmly back in the LC wagon

cocolepew United States Mon 31-Dec-12 10:26:57

Weighed myself, in jammies, post toilet, pre breakfast and I was 3lb lighter!

12st 7lbs.

Had a boiled egg for breakfast, the perfect dippy egg but no soldiers to dip in it sadwink

coldethyl Mon 31-Dec-12 10:27:43

I'm starting today, GinotPrigio, while I feel all gungho about it. That pesky half stone is now 10lbs and I must lose it. Also, it's my birthday next week, just after the official start, and I'd like to see some progress before I blow it all to hell with a small vodka tonic and a chocolate.

coco putting it back on was a mixture of pulling back from low carb (a slice of bread with my soup won't hurt... where did that loaf go? sort of thing), not doing enough (3 weeks sitting down with a selection of injuries) and serious sleep deprivation meaning I paid no attention at all to what I was eating. If it was there, I ate it, just to stay awake. And then you can't low carb over Christmas, can you? Particularly when I made the damn mince pies, and there are brioche for Christmas breakfast.

So today's breakfast was a plate of canapes made of cucumber slices with a dollop of full fat yoghurt on them and a little bit of Christmas caviar on top. Very nice.

cocolepew United States Mon 31-Dec-12 10:28:56

I'm starting today because I go back to work on thursday and I was hoping to be in the way of things by then. Plus if I feel crap for a few days at least I'll be at home.

ArfAPandaTreacle Mon 31-Dec-12 10:31:20

Day1 for me.
Had chicken breast and half an avacado (which was sweet- yuck!) for breakfast.

Jacaqueen Mon 31-Dec-12 10:33:27

Coco streaky bacon strips are great to dip into a boiled egg. You can even buy them pre cooked in most supermarkets. Asparagus is also nice to dip in.

NotMostPeople Mon 31-Dec-12 10:34:04

I'm on an iPad so can't paste myself onto the list but I'm in. I'll start in the 7th, hate to think how much ice put on.

cocolepew United States Mon 31-Dec-12 10:37:00

I'm going to get those jacaqueen. I put them in scrambled eggs but never thought of dipping them, thankssmile I also use them to eat Philadelphia with blush. It's weird eating fatty things to lose weight, even thought I never eat diet or 'light' stuff.

HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey Mon 31-Dec-12 10:37:04

Can i come back?!

After being so good for so long i have eaten every carb known to man this Christmas!!

BIWI your voice is more of a whisper than an a shout when i open the sweet cupboard grin

Have added my name to the list, i am on for 7th.

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
Froufroulala
SkaffenAmtiskaw
WomenandChickensFirst
sparkly peach
Lavenderhoney
NellVarnish
TheAccidentalExhibitionist
Frenchfries22
HavingAnOffDay
coldethyl
CaramelWaffle
CJCregg
HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey

I wish you all luck and will power!

Jacaqueen Mon 31-Dec-12 10:40:31

I cannot believe you lot all starting today. It is Hogmanay!

Am I the only lush left on this thread?

I have only been sober once at New Year in the last 27 years and that was 15 years ago when DS 1 was born.

HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey Mon 31-Dec-12 10:42:49

I am not starting until 7th, i am going to eat all the chocolate in the house first!

Livelongandprosper Mon 31-Dec-12 10:43:44

Will someone please add me to the list? My phone won't agree to do it sad
I've lost my appetite for anything but sugar. I know from past experience that this woe broadens the range of foods I eat and reduces headaches and hot sweats at night.
I also aim to do more exercise.
I am really going to need the support on this thread, sometimes I can hear nothing but the Call of the Carbs but luckily I also fear the big stick of BIWI and I thank her for this new thread.

ArfAPandaTreacle Mon 31-Dec-12 10:44:20

NYE is like any other night for me. I'll be asleep by 10!

Willowisp Mon 31-Dec-12 10:44:45

I'm feeling smug because I haven't put any weight on <twirls> grin

However, I did the 500 cals fast on day last week & I haven't massively over indulged.

Thanks to BIWI & her choc pots, my sweet tooth has faded considerably !

(on spreadsheet & thread for support/ideas/lose a bit more leg fat).

cocolepew United States Mon 31-Dec-12 10:46:28

BIWI has a stick? shock

I don't drink much and hate NYE, so it's not a problem.

HugAndRoll Mon 31-Dec-12 10:47:03

Argh I caved and ate a slice of that Yule log. I didn't really enjoy it and I don't know why I went for it. Stupid woman I am.

MulledwineGless Mon 31-Dec-12 10:48:10

Jacs
I'm working tonight hence the reason for me not drinking in my usual lush like fashion!
Have one for me as an exiled Scot -slainte

MulledwineGless Mon 31-Dec-12 10:48:43

Oh god the stick of doom

And she shouts

In bold

cocolepew United States Mon 31-Dec-12 10:57:26

shock

angelinterceptor Mon 31-Dec-12 11:01:53

Can I join please?
Can't get the cut n paste to work on phone - have about 5 stone to lose.
Thanks AngelInterceptor

halfthesize Mon 31-Dec-12 11:12:42

Can finally cut and paste as at home:

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
Froufroulala
SkaffenAmtiskaw
WomenandChickensFirst
sparkly peach
Lavenderhoney
NellVarnish
TheAccidentalExhibitionist
Frenchfries22
HavingAnOffDay
coldethyl
CaramelWaffle
CJCregg
HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey
halfthesize

Need to loose a stone, as totally stuffed face over Christmas period!!

ScillyCow Mon 31-Dec-12 11:16:15

I have hit the "hangover from hell' feeling of Day 5 of low-carbing.

But without any alcohol. Yeurgh! Did you guys get this? I am drinking lots of water and sticking to the diet - anything else I can do?

Did you guys get this? I'm hoping I will feel better later - we have people round for dinner. I'm pleased with myself because my planned menu allows me to be a total glutton without breaking the diet.

Starter: Smoked salmon and prawns with avo (and mayo)
Main: Roast beef (salmon for me - non meat eater) with buttered spinach, runner beans, broccoli.
(and roast spuds and yorkshires for them that do)
Pud: (Not for me) Mini Passion fruit pavlovas
Cheeseboard with celery. Yummmmm.

Scilly I gave up carbs and caffeine at the same time and thought I was going to die for about a week and a half!

GreenyEyes Mon 31-Dec-12 11:53:18

Morning all

Tentatively tried the scales again this morning- 8lb on (since beginning Dec)

Not going out tonight so no problems there, but I've still got a houseful of things that I'd really like to eat! Xmas cake, chocolate oranges, crackers with my cheese etc grin

But I'm going to be strong, the thought of creeping back up to my old weight is horrifying.

GreenyEyes Mon 31-Dec-12 11:53:56

I did the carbs and caffeine thing too, god it was awful

It'll pass scilly just survive another day or two and you'll feel much better!

Doshusallie Mon 31-Dec-12 12:08:08

Morning all. Breakfast was leftover from last night bacon, sprouts, leek and cabbage cooked in cream, and I had some creme fraiche too.

Just made This to take to nye party this evening. I will not be partaking, but it looks amaze balls.

Crappy weather yet again here - was contemplating taking the boys swimming again (it's near, it's free, and they love it) but as we are all still in our pjs and the first of our two parties today starts at 3 it's looking unlikely.

Have a great nye whatever you are all doing losers!!!

Dosh

Gosh this thread moves fast with everyone signing up!! Just my non expert tuppence:

froufroulala welcome! You are not stupid. We have all struggled with issues in one form or another. You won't be the biggest here, and it actually doesn't matter if you are or not, there is NO judging here, just mutual support and help as we all muddle along together.

mumat39 fear of "failing" is exactly how I felt, but hopefully you will find this is not a "diet" as such but a long term way of eating that you enjoy and get so many benefits from, that you want to do it, rather than "having" to. Again, no judging here, and if you have a "blip" as we all do, just get back on it next day and don't worry.

nellvarnish yes it does seem contrary to everything we have been told for the last 30 years about fat, but hey has the low fat diet industry turned us all into healthy slim sylphes? No? Funny that! grin best advice is to do some reading on how low carb WORKS, try Dr John Briffa or Gary Taubes book. Idiot Proof Diet also recommended for issues with emotional eating. Basically, carbs raise our blood sugar which releases insulin which makes us lay down fat. Fat and protein don't lift our blood sugar as much or so fast, fill us up and naturally control our appetite and blood sugar.

accidentalexhibitionist you can find rules on the spreadsheet of wonderful ness there will be a new one for 7 jan but here is link to our last one
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/big_slim_whatever_weight_loss_club/1646582-New-Year-Low-Carb-Bootcamp

frenchfries non meat eaters do fine on this woe, you will find lots of ideas on the bootcamp recipe thread, also Rose Elliot book "the low carb vegetarian" is recommended by lots of folk.

jacaqueen Lang may yer lum reek!!!! I'll send you a virtual lump of coal and shortbread for a MN first foot!!

ToffeePenny Mon 31-Dec-12 12:40:55

Joining (did this for wedding years back but baby tummy is still here and he's 3)

Will join on 8th as the 7th is my birthday!

Biwi
MulledwineGless
ScillyCow
ILoveOnionRings
thenightsky
Yddraigoldragon
AuntieMaggie
HumphreyCobbler
HugAndRoll
Teeb
ArfAPandaTreacle
SilverBaubles33
LightHousekeeping
Singingtunelessly
ZakuroFujiwara
ZzzenAgain
NewStartSameStory
Becstarlightstarbright
SavoirFaire
CooCoolite
TheSloppelganger
Gloriafloria
timidviper
Fadqueen
Cocolepew
Colette
ToomuchJanuaryNametobedecided
Mumat39
anewdispensation
Bessie123
Dickiedavisthunderthighs
EwanHoozami
Doshusallie
RatherBeOnThePiste
sybilfaulty
MrsHerculePoirot
Ilovemyteddy
TheHumancatapult
CordeliaChase
Brainstorm
Christmasknackers
BistoBear
makingchanges
GreenyEyes
JenaiMarr
Boobz
Ginot Prigio
hurricanewyn
NoveltySlippers
NigellasGuest
CathyandClaire
FuryDogMother
thisisthestory
Lastyearsmodel
jan2013
WillieWaggledagge
vnmum
willowisp
willowispsmama
JACAQUEEN
Gilbertwasthebestcat
PromQueenWithin
Froufroulala
SkaffenAmtiskaw
WomenandChickensFirst
sparkly peach
Lavenderhoney
NellVarnish
TheAccidentalExhibitionist
Frenchfries22
HavingAnOffDay
coldethyl
CaramelWaffle
CJCregg
HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey
halfthesize
ToffeePenny

Yy agree with toomuch - if you feel you have a lot to lose then this really is a properly sustainable way to do it as the low carb intake keeps te physical cravings under control. It is perfect for long term weight loss and for releasing the 'hold' that food can seem to have over you

The first few days can be difficult, but if you get through them it is so worth it!

NoveltySlippers Mon 31-Dec-12 12:46:24

Hello all and a Happy New Year's Eve!

Pls accept apologies for mini essay to follow - but any advice/help very gratefully received!

So - I've almost finished the Taubes book, which was a real eye opener. It totally makes sense and I now understand why some skinny minnies I know can eat chips for lunch, snack on crisps, then hoover up a pasta mountain for dinner and yet stay at 8 and a half stone. Sadly, I'm not one of these lucky people!

My only problem (as mentioned up thread) is that I have this pesky dry eye problem, and as you lose a lot of water on low carb, apparently it can aggravate dry eye. I already drink a ton of water, so not sure I can drink anymore.

My question is: would I be allowed to join the Bootcamp but with Bootcamp light rules? i.e. Could I deviate slightly and have oat bran for breakfast (approx 30g with milk), or maybe a thin slice of rye bread for lunch instead (11g of carbs)?

If this is just not in the spirit of things, do let me know and I will bow out gracefully.

(But in envy - as I do think low carb is the way to go - not only for weight loss, but for health!)

NewStartSameStory Mon 31-Dec-12 12:57:47

I found cutting out caffine has helped the dry eye issue with the increased in water intake (3-4Ltr per day these days!) but i have also noticed that I can't tollerate my contacts in my eyes for 12hrs any more. But as I have also had severe sleep deprivation recently i am hoping that this will improve as I find sleep. I can understand your feelings on this. Novalty. However, i do find that the first two weeks still sort out the cravings for me and is bareable. Even if i feel like i am going to explode with all the water i seem to crave drinking!

NoveltySlippers Mon 31-Dec-12 13:17:53

Hi NSSS Thanks for sharing your experience. thanks

Yes, I'm now down to wearing my contacts for about 6-7 hours maximum. Anymore and my eyes get very red, and I can't wear them the next day. I really struggle to have them in for a full day at work. My optician has said that my tear film is breaking far too quickly.

So, I'm taking fish oils, have cut out caffeine and drink vats of water. It seems to be getting a bit better, but it's been like this for over a year now so I'm just a bit worried about anything that might make them drier again.

If I do eat a little bit of carbs (i.e. go lower carb, rather than low carb) I wonder if I would still lose weight, just slower?

I'm not sure if it was someone on another thread that said if you eat high fat plus carbs, then all bets are off! hmm

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Mon 31-Dec-12 13:34:20

NoveltySlippers - I don't know anything about your specific condition, I'm afraid. So I'm not sure whether or not eating low carb would aggravate it (although I can't really see why it would, if you see what I mean?)

Why not just try it and see? How much water are you drinking? There is a table somewhere which has how much water you need to be drinking based on how much you weigh - I'll see if I can find it.

But if Bootcamp is too much, by all means start with Bootcamp Light - to be honest, the most important thing is the support from other people who are are doing the same as you.

I'll see if I can find anything more about low carbing and your condition.

MulledwineGless Mon 31-Dec-12 13:34:58

Novelty slippers- you may want to look at Zoe Harcombe as she has a bit more carbs in her diet.
There is the dr Charles Clark diet who advocates one piece of whole piece of bread a day. I don't see how that fits on with the science that I have read about low carb, particularly wheat. If I was king to have carbs personally I would go for brown rice and root vegetables. Grain seems to react badly with me.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Mon 31-Dec-12 13:35:14

... but before I do, one thing strikes me about your post, which is your assertion that low carb causes a lot of water loss. I'm not sure about that. It will cause a lot of fat loss, as that's what happens when you stop using carbs for fuel.

MulledwineGless Mon 31-Dec-12 13:35:53

Waves to BIWI- you are gonna be busy in Jan with all the new starters ! wink

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Mon 31-Dec-12 13:37:04
BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Mon 31-Dec-12 13:40:50
RatherBeOnThePiste Mon 31-Dec-12 13:42:14

We need to keep her busy, keeps her outta trouble you see.....

anewdispensation Mon 31-Dec-12 13:44:12

BIWI, so how does this work? I have joined already but I guess my fear is logging on one day and not being able to find you lot? Also are we responsible for updating the spreadsheet with our weigh ins and is the spreadsheet a shared one? Thanks in advance

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Mon 31-Dec-12 13:44:59

grin

Hello Id like to join please smile I didnt go too mad over xmas but Id like to lose a stone. Ive started today and generally find that I do better when low carbing as bread and pasta etc make me feel awful.

Dh is in bed ill (sickness bug that I had a few days ago) and Im struggling already, though I know that is down to feeling crappy with the weather etc. Hopefully I'll get these first few days out of the way and then it'll be a little easier!

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BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Mon 31-Dec-12 13:50:36

anewdispensation - on Monday 7 Jan, I will start the Week 1 chat thread, in which I will post a link to the Spreadsheet of Fantabulousness. The lovely WillieWaggle has committed to creating this - which means she is going to be busier than me, based on the number of that have signed up!

All you need to do is enter your weight in the right column, and the SoF will do the rest. We enter weight in lbs, but there is a handy calculator on there to convert kilos to pounds, I think.

We mainly enter our weight on each Monday, but it's up to you which day you feel most comfortable with.

You will also find, on tabs at the bottom of the spreadsheet, some important information, like the rules, the list of allowed veg and other assorted stuff.

The spreadsheet is available via Google Docs, which means it is shared. If you are concerned about entering your actual weight, as some people don't want to, then you could always index it - so start at 100 and drop by 1 for every pound that you lose.

Generally what happens is that we all chat about our progress, raise any questions/concerns, share what food/recipes we're eating/using, and then I shout a lot at people when they cheat, and wave my Big Stick around willy nilly. grin

And I start a new thread for each week. You'll find that they move so fast that the threads are usually in Active Convos - but if you're worried about losing them, you could always make them a Thread to Watch, or find it via Threads I'm On (assuming you've posted, obviously!)

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Mon 31-Dec-12 13:54:16

Someone was asking about weight gain - I think it was cocolepew? To be honest, I have found that going off piste, whilst it results in some gain, because I have been doing this for quite some time, I tend to be able to lose the weight quickly.

The trick for everyone is going to be maintaining their weight. I'm almost at my target, and so that is when the challenge will start! I think that if you revert straight back to a high carb diet, then the weight will simply go back on. After all, that old diet was why you put the weight on in the first place, surely? The thing to do is to introduce good carbs gradually, until you reach a level that you are happy with, and you aren't gaining weight. This level will be different for everybody. By 'good' carbs, I mean higher carb veg, and pulses and some grains. The key is 'some' - so you can have 'some' bread and 'some' rice/pasta - but just don't fall face first into toast, sandwiches, pasta and chocolate at every meal and expect to keep your weight loss!

anewdispensation Mon 31-Dec-12 14:04:09

Thanks very useful info. Last question: Can I do this while ebfing a 4 month old?

NoveltySlippers Mon 31-Dec-12 14:08:47

Hi BIWI Thanks a lot for taking the time to look into that! thanks

Yes - there's no way of knowing whether LC will cause me further dry eye, without trying it first; my worry was just that I daren't risk exacerbating it as dry eye can be pretty awful and is something that I have really struggled with.

So, I just wanted to know whether - if I erred on the side of caution and took in a few carbs - I could still be included in boot camp.

I totally understand that taking in any grains runs counter to the whole ethos. I just wondered if it would interfere with fat loss entirely, or just slow it down.

Re. the causation though - I read the Barry Groves link, and it says that while omega 3 fatty acids can reduce the risk of dry eye, omega 6s increase the risk. This may be why people have problems, and it's not related to loss of water. (I just read that on the internet about water loss and LC - no idea if it's true....such is the 'power' of the internet!).

I just had a look at foods very high in omega 6 though, and these are chicken skin, bacon, pork, eggs, butter, avocados. So basically staples of low carb foods. Erk! There also seem to be too many people on LC forums complaining about dry eye that are making me think I should just be cautious (though I did see on the link you sent that others report they've been fine).

I think on this basis though, I will err on the side of caution and probably look into Zoe Harcombe or Charles Clark (thanks for the tips MulledGless).

I won't probably then take part in the bootcamp as I will feel a bit of a charlatan as I won't be properly low carbing with the rest of you!

Thanks for all your help though, good luck and have lots of fun. I remain envious of being able to go gung ho low carb!

herecomesthsun Mon 31-Dec-12 14:10:21

I would like to join as well. I have had 2 pregnancies with gestational diabetes, have been diagnosed with PCOS and have a family history of diabetes on both mum and dad's side. I want to ward off the diabetes for as long as possible. I am visualising this as the opportunity to do everything I can to get to see my children graduate/ married/ have kids etc.

I was back to my pre-pregnancy weight within 6 weeks of having my daughter in Feb. I was told that I did not have diabetes post birth. I have lost a further stone since November and was approx 13 stone 1 lb according to my scales this am. I need to lose 1 stone to get back to a BMI of 25 and a further stone to get to a BMI of 23, which would be the safer weight wrt reducing the risk of diabetes developing further.

I am planning to go back to my doctor to get another Glucose tolerance test in Feb, which will be a year post birth, and I would like to have my weight down as far as possible by then. If only because it is a really good motivator! And still being on maternity leave is helpful from the POV of buying, measuring out and cooking a slightly different diet.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Mon 31-Dec-12 14:16:18

As I approach the first anniversary of starting this WOE, perhaps my 'story' will help illustrate how low carbing can become a WOE and WOL - way of life.

I started the year weighing 11 stone 5.5lbs. As I'm only 5 foot 2 inches, and quite petite, this was pretty hefty, and I was already beginning to see some of the size 14 clothes I had had to buy beginning to strain at the seams. My last weigh-in of the Little Black Dress Bootcamp saw me reach 9 stone 3.75lbs. It has taken me just short of a year to lose 2 stones.

That sounds like a long time, but during that year I have:

- continued to drink alcohol at the weekend; mainly wine, sometimes rum and soda and occasionally gin and slimline tonic (try to avoid the latter because there is some suggestion that artificial sweeteners are implicated in weight gain)

- continued to drink alcohol during the week if I go out. This has probably been once a fortnight, on average

- had various weekends away where low carbing has not been possible (including a weekend in Rome and another in Lille with DH), or dinners at friends where everything served has been high in carbs

- had a two week family holiday where I ate whatever I wanted

I also signed up to a personal trainer, and I see him for some fairly brutal gym-based exercise twice a week. I also try and go at least once a week on my own if I can manage it. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't.

What I have learnt is that in the long term you will lose the weight, if you return to low carbing for most of the time. This WOE isn't as forgiving as a low calorie or low fat diet, and you have to plan ahead and be prepared. But the odd slip-up isn't going to sabotage you too much. But. You do have to be disciplined, and get back on the wagon as soon as you can. Carbs are horribly addictive, and once they creep back in, you can find yourself consuming more and more, sometimes without really realising just how many!

Things that have really helped me, especially in the beginning:

- weighing my veg to work out how many carbs I'm actually eating. Although Bootcamp rules are based on not counting carbs, it can be a really good idea to start with to do this, just so you have a better fix on carb counts. We probably all know how many calories are in things, but have little real idea how many carbs are in things.

- I keep my own spreadsheet of my weight, and I weigh daily. I use the spreadsheet like a graph - filling in the cell that I have reached with a colour, so I have a visual record of my loss/gains. That helps enormously. Weighing daily isn't for everyone, because you also have to recognise that even if you have been really good, sometimes your weight will go up, for no apparent reason. However, for me, it keeps me focused. And if you look at the spreadsheet as a whole, you do begin to see the overall, downward trend. When you're so much 'in the zone', sometimes you can start to obsess about your weight over the last couple of weeks and if it's not going well, which sometimes it won't, you can forget the bigger picture - i.e. that you are losing weight - just, perhaps, more slowly than you want to!

- I have a shirt that I really wanted to wear, but was way too tight. Every now and then I would try it on again, to see how it fitted. The way your clothes fit (or don't!), is a much more accurate way of assessing your achievement than the number on the scales. (Bear in mind that if you are exercising, muscle weighs more than fat, so your weight could go up despite the fact that your body will be leaner and more toned)

- I kept a food diary, on a daily basis, of everything that I had eaten, and what I had drunk. It really helps to keep you focused if you're writing it all down, and also helps you to identify - if all isn't going to plan - what might be contributing to that. I learnt, for example, that cream is not my friend, and can impede weight loss for me

- accept the fact that weight loss is totally unpredictable! I went for ages losing very slowly - then suddenly lost 3lbs. Nothing to do with what I was doing. It can be frustrating, especially if you're hoping to lose a certain amount each week.

- make small targets - they are much more achievable, and it's more satisfying. So don't start by thinking "I've got to lose 2 stones". Start by focusing on the first half stone.

- read about low carbing. Either books (many have already been referenced on this thread) or blogs or websites. You will get a lot of criticism from other people about low carbing - usually from people who haven't read anything about it, but just regurgitate what the media have been telling them - particularly on the basis of the amount of fat you will be eating, how this is a fad diet, didn't Dr Atkins die of a heart attack in the end?*, etc. You need to understand what you are doing and why.

(*No, he slipped on the ice)

But above all, the thing that keeps me doing this is the fact that I can eat enjoyable food. I know that my diet is much better now, and I eat plenty of veg and salad. It's 'cleaner', in that by jettisoning all that low fat/low cal stuff, I'm consuming far fewer artificial ingredients. And the reading I have done about low carb has really persuaded me that, as well as weight loss, this is a far, far better way to eat for long term health. Low carbing is implicated in a number of serious conditions I really want to avoid, especially as other members of my family either suffer from them (diabetes, Alzheimers) or have died from them (cancer).

I not only want to be slim as I grow old (I'm 53 now), but I want to be healthy and enjoy my old age.

MulledwineGless Mon 31-Dec-12 14:16:28

Novelty please keep,posting on Bootcamp - what's a slice of bread between friends! There are a few long term posters who do/ have done Zoe Harcombe who can help you on your journey and others who are doing slight variations. The main thing is the support to get you through it! All welcome

sybilfaulty Mon 31-Dec-12 14:30:18

Thanks for your story BIWI, and for keeping us on track. I've enjoyed the last 6 months of threads and am looking forward to the next boot camp.

Just eaten 2 chocs. Boo! But previously would have been the white tin!

Happy new year everyone

NoveltySlippers Mon 31-Dec-12 14:42:15

Thanks BIWI for your story - that's very inspirational.
(And being just under 5'3" I totally empathise with the need to shift the extra pounds at that height!) Good tips and really helpful to have a realistic assessment of the process.

Mulledwinegless many thanks for your support smile - I am reading up on Zoe Harcombe right now and seeing what she says. I suppose I want to figure out how I can balance the extra few carbs while maintaining the high fat without piling on the pounds. I'll be back!

captainmummy Mon 31-Dec-12 14:45:22

BIWI - Low carbing is implicated in a number of serious conditions I really want to avoid, especially as other members of my family either suffer from them (diabetes, Alzheimers) or have died from them (cancer). = Did you mean this?

Novelty - there is no reason you can't low-er carb, cutting out obvious baddies, like sugar, flour-products, potatoes,rice. My dp does this and is still losing weight (6kg so far since aug, eating porridge, occasionally potatoes, fruit once a day) and there is a poster on here (can't rememeber who) who does a version of low-carbing, with a few more carbs than the rest of us.

To whoever asked if you put the weight back on afterwards - If you do this with the mindset of going back to eat 'normally' after losing the weight, then yes you probably will. Thing is tho, that you shouldn't want eat the carby stuff - I am probably going into maintainance now, with only a few lb to go, and I have no desire to eat pasta, flour, sugar or any other cheap filler. I'd much rather open the fridge and eat good, whole food, not mucked-about crap. Not saying I'll never have a slice of toast again, but I can't actually see why I'd want to....

Maintenance is much harder than weight loss. About 7 years ago I lost 5 stone on low carb, and kept it off for 3 years - but then got complacent, and the dreaded 'carb creep' happened - it started with a pizza on my birthday because I 'deserved' it, then went on to some brown bread with a prawn salad - and then the carb cravings kicked in, and within a year I'd put the weight back on. Took me until this August to get my act together again.

This time I know that I have to actively maintain the loss, once I get there, and I can't allow many carbs in my way of eating. When maintaining, I can have some higher carb vegetables, but never bread, pastry, rice, pasta etc. It says a lot for low carb that I managed to stick with it for over 3 years - it really is a sustainable way of eating, once you get into the swing of it. I was working out (cardio and weights alternately) 6 days a week in the gym for some of that time, too, never had any problems with lack of energy or strength.

I'm glad to see people recommending and reading Gary Taubes - his books are brilliant - 'Why We Get Fat (and what to do about it)' is the easiest to read, and makes it very easy to understand the science behind the diet. Once you know why you're eating this way, and how various foods affect your metabolism, it's easier to make correct food choices.

Anyway, tonight's my last boozy night before I buckle down to this - and I can't get to a set of scales until Friday, so will start properly on the 7th, with everyone else!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Mon 31-Dec-12 15:06:47

Captainmummy - yes. Is it a surprise?

You may find after not eating bread /gluten for a while that you can't eat it I no longer can without horrendous cramps and I no longer crave it either

captainmummy Mon 31-Dec-12 15:09:33

Low -carbing is implicated in serious conditions like cancer and diabetes? Why are you doing it then?

Will you stop low-carbing when you get to target?

Is low-cal/low-fat actually healthier, in which case?

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Mon 31-Dec-12 15:13:27

Sorry blush. Doing too many things at once - obviously I meant carbs and a high carb diet!

Sorry!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Mon 31-Dec-12 15:17:03

*An important correction*:

High carb diets are implicated in a number of serious conditions I really want to avoid, especially as other members of my family either suffer from them (diabetes, Alzheimers) or have died from them (cancer).

Thanks for spotting captainmummy

<slinks off>

captainmummy Mon 31-Dec-12 15:39:00

Phewwww!

Thanks for that, BIWI - had horrible visions of having to go back to low-fat mayo and a future with no cheese.....

novelty stay with us pleeeeeerease! you could try bootcamp hardcore for a bit and see if it affects eyes or not and if it does add in a few carbs as you are suggesting. If you decide to bootcamp light it straight away thn that is fine too - tbh I think we all find our own individual pathways through the lc way as we all know out own bodies the best.

Novelty I had a very quick google - the main links seems to be lack of vitamin A and dehydration - maybe if you keep an eye (no pun intended!) on those two things whilst lowering carbs perhaps that will help?

NewStartSameStory Mon 31-Dec-12 15:58:53

I agree with MrsHP Stay put novelty the support is amazing and they are not a bunch of all or nothing people (although you might need to put in a reminder with food lists that you are doing light rather then bootcamping during those weeks as biwi is very strict)

I have fallen off the wagon and the carbs have crept in the last few days as has the coke. I have severe stomach cramp today and feeling really yucky. Thankfully ds has requested sausages, sausages in bacon and sausage rolls for his treaty tea tonight. Mind you there is cake also. Otoh it is a painful reminder as to why this diet works for me. Well that and the migraine i woke up with. sad

Going to have to try to be back on the straight and narrow tomo. And will start early I think.

Pinot Mon 31-Dec-12 16:01:16

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sweetfluffybunnies England Mon 31-Dec-12 16:01:31

Just come across this thread, please can I join in? Never done low carb before so it's all new to me and a bit daunting, but it seems to crop up a lot and I've tried so many diets that haven't worked, I need something new and different.

I saw a relative at a family gathering yesterday whom I hadn't seen for 6 months. I commented on how trim she was looking and guess what? She's on a low carb diet!

I have a lot to lose but realistically if I could lose a stone in a couple of months I would be ecstatic. We are hoping to go skiing next Xmas and I would love to be able to give it a go without looking like an elephant and feeling totally unfit.

Big problem at the moment though is all the leftover chocolate and nibbles from Xmas! I guess I'll leave it until Sunday and then bin anything that's left.

Looking forward to getting started nowsmile

Pinot Mon 31-Dec-12 16:02:32

biwi!
BIWI!
BIWI!

<<waddles in>>

Following on from flashing my wobbly bits at you on twitter (or was it FB?), I am HERE and I am READY to be SLIMMER and I am using CAPITALS willy NILLY.

HumphreyCobbler Mon 31-Dec-12 16:18:07

thanks for the story BIWI.

I am one of those who had to give up dairy and artificial sweeteners in order to lose weight (after a bloody long stall) and I find that I am still eating really delicious food. One other point that I notice is that I do not lose weight if I am taking regular painkillers - I read on one of the links that you posted that this may be the case, so this is a really good incentive to only take paracetemol if I REALLY need it instead of slightly needing it.

Both my DH and I are following this WOE or we will be again after tomorrow and I can't see us ever eating bread/sugar regularly again.

thenightsky Mon 31-Dec-12 16:33:16

Are we allowed this sort of stuff when we are in the maintenance stage?

cocolepew United States Mon 31-Dec-12 16:42:31

Hello Pinot smile

Thanks to everyone for sharing their stories and tips, it really helps. I have a pair if trousers,I want to fit into. A few years ago I was wearing them in the summer, by tghe next summer there was no hope of them even going past my tighs.

I went onto Citalopram in the Febuary and the weight piled on. I think I craved carbs,even more on it. I never felt full IYSWIM?

I came off it over the summer but was waiting for a hysterectomy and was in a lot of pain. My womb was the size of an 8 month prgnancy by the time I had my op. My pelvis also was twisted completely out of line (hence my still sore hip). I also had PCOS with caused me to be insulin resistant.

My oestopath is having trouble getyigetting ng the hip joint back in because there is too much fluid around it. She keeps telling me to low carb. She also does a lot of chinese/alternative medicine and apparently my metabolism is rubbish shock.

Too many carbs has also caused me to have adrenal fatigue.

I have been coming of sugar and wheat, periodically, for about 20 years!

timidviper Mon 31-Dec-12 16:44:32

coco If you have had a lot of antibiotics they may have disturbed the balance of intestinal flora. Low carbing should help this re-establish as reducing sugars and carbs keeps down the candida and other yeasts in the gut which is healthier.

froufrou Panic not! I am still heavier than you are and I lost 2 stone on the last bootcamp to get here! I put my weight on the spreadsheet as 100 and count down from that as I am still not comfortable putting my real weight on there. (I'm still claiming I could tell you but then I'd have to kill you!)

novelty I have just finished reading this which is lowish carb but has a potato each day which she says maintains beta-endorphin levels that help stabilise mood and appetite. May be worth a look if you are concerned about low carb.

timidviper Mon 31-Dec-12 16:49:58

Coco X-posted with you there!
"Your Last Diet" by Kathleen Desmaisons (she also wrote The Sugar Addicts Diet) that I linked above for novelty might also be of interest to you.

Rooobs Mon 31-Dec-12 17:01:29

right, come on then, LET'S DO THIS!

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Rooobs Mon 31-Dec-12 17:03:24

what know? grin

prettybird Mon 31-Dec-12 17:08:31

I suppose I'd better will join you. smile

Have pigged myself over the holiday period and will probably be back over 13 stone blush

My objective is to get back to 10 stone (ideally just under) which is where I was nearly 4 years ago before i was made redundant. I know that'll take more than the period of this bootcamp, so I'll say my initial objective is to break into the "11 stone somethings", which is where I got to two Christmases ago before "life" got on top of me again.

New Year, new me smile

cocolepew United States Mon 31-Dec-12 17:16:20

When I went to see my woo woman 2 months after my op the first thing she said to me was how many antibiotics I had been on. I hadn't even sat down! She said she could see the fluid in my face, this is causing sinus headaches too.
She gave me a very good probiotic to take and was pleased when I went back 8 weeks later that that had worked.

TheAccidentalExhibitionist Mon 31-Dec-12 17:20:50

Have done some research, written out the rules for DH while he looked on horrified I'm going to drink tonight and then...the diet starts tomorrow wink

HumphreyCobbler Mon 31-Dec-12 17:27:53

gosh cocolepew, you have really been through it. I am sure that this WOE will help you. I suffered weight gain on citalopram too, and am a lifelong sufferer of water retention. I also suspect a mild tendency towards PCOS (if there is such a thing??) as I have some symptoms.

cocolepew United States Mon 31-Dec-12 17:33:36

Humphrey, I had a mild case of PCOS, I know some people suffer really badly. My right ovary was full of chocolate cysts grin

HumphreyCobbler Mon 31-Dec-12 17:36:09

grin

cocolepew United States Mon 31-Dec-12 17:40:59

Noveltyslipers, would taking a vitamin for eyes help? Boots do their own as well as some others. My mum has glaucoma and dry eyes, her eye specialist recommended taking a supplement with Lutein in it.

froufroulala Mon 31-Dec-12 17:59:02

Thanks for your comment Toomuch, you are right & I now don't feel sorry for myself I just need to get on with it. I have just done a weekly shop for the family & this week to prepare myself I will stop eating bread, rice, pasta & potatoes. I do have two questions though sorry if they have already been asked or sound stupid. First one, can you take supplements? Two, can you make soups with the correct low carb ingredients? TIA

Gilbertwasthebestcat Mon 31-Dec-12 18:05:40

I started today but off out tonight for a curry which will be tricky but I have read up and I should be ok if I just have meat and no sauce. Does that sound ok? Will be hard to resist naan breads and stuff but have made a good start and even resisted the remains of the dcs' tea!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Mon 31-Dec-12 18:07:03

Yes, you can take supplements. But check what the ingredients are first! I bought some effervescent Vitamin C tablets recently, and then discovered that one of the ingredients was potato starch!

And yes, you can make soup - as long as your veg is low carb.

thenightsky you can eat those when you're in Bootcamp Light if you like - but just remember that the whole point of this WOE is to break the addiction to all things sweet! (And remember that there are a whole load of artificial ingredients in those products)

Frou

I take a multi vitamin

Novelty

I am probably more heavy on protein than a lot as I use it to prevent tissue damage as being in wheelchair an prone to pressure sores so I add own twist

But I admit to having a couple cans of diet coke over the holidays ok maybe more than a couple more like 7/8 but hey go it's Xmas got to have a treat and can't drink due to meds but have last one tonight and back to water I go

cocolepew United States Mon 31-Dec-12 18:21:26

I'm a total egg fiend but the couple today made me feel a bit boaky shock. My taste for certain foods seems to have changed since my op confused.

Me and the DDs went to Ikea today. They had hotdogs and fries. I drank my water.

DH is sitting shoving an curry in him now, git.

LucyVFood Mon 31-Dec-12 18:22:03

Hi, can I join? I've got loads to lose but my main goal is to shift as much as possible for my holiday in April. Low carbs is the only thing that ever works for me, although I never done it with Mumsnet! 7th is also perfect, although I'll probably start on the 2nd.

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