The Ongoing Low Carb Bootcamp - Final Festive Fortnight

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BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Mon 10-Dec-12 07:56:38

No spreadsheet to link to this week, as the LBD challenge is now over!

I don't know about anyone else, but I have definitely not had the greatest of weeks, and I'm keeping on keeping on until we get to Christmas.

Not quite sure yet what my own Christmas strategy is going to be, but I also guess it depends on where I've got to with my weight by then. I know that, having achieved my first major target of losing 2 stones, I still have more to go. So my next really major, very psychological target, will be to reach 9 stone. Something I have been trying (and failing) to do for the last 10 years! But now it seems so much more achieveable, especially with all you lot giving such brilliant support.

This week for me starts with a super strict day today. I'm out to dinner tomorrow, with a groups of ex colleagues, and venue is not yet chosen, but is likely to be a Chinese, which always brings its own problems. not to mention the wine

I'm also out to lunch on Friday, so it looks like Wednesday and Thursday will also have to be super strict!

I been advoiding gluten for quite a while and fell of wagon last week on holiday and I ended up with horrendous stomach cramps after just one piece of bread anyone else finding the same ?

Itwillendinsmiles Mon 10-Dec-12 08:54:45

Good morning BIWI and all,

I had a very good week until Saturday then a box of nearly out of date mince pies in my DH's house tempted me... and cooking for the family over the weekend never helps! I did however see my eventual goal of 9 stone only a pound and a few ounces away one happy morning last week! Back to 9 3 exactly today and have got a LBD outing next Sunday so will aim for a fairly strict week and will see what can be done...

My Christmas strategy is to be mindful... I'll eat/drink what I want to and enjoy but also think of the consequences. I've worked hard to be - and more or less maintain - at this weight for some months and with no exercise possible since 1st October - or likely to be done until 21st January - I don't want to make it any harder than necessary come the New Year.

cathyandclaire Mon 10-Dec-12 09:26:16

Just want to say thanks to Biwi thanks for hosting this brilliant bootcamp and getting her big stick out all the time whenever necessary grin

It has been the best and easiest diet (and now weight maintenance method for me) that I have ever tried..and I've tried gazillions. Since low carbing I've lost just over a stone and my body fat has gone from 33% to under 26% (gym measurement)

I will definitely keep it up and lurk around this thread, especially in the new year when I may need a kick up the backside little support again!

EwanHoHoHozami Mon 10-Dec-12 09:35:29

Morning all.

A fortnight until Christmas - gadzooks!

agree with smiles about being mindful. I'm not going to shovel down the carbs just because it's Christmas but I have a couple of naughty items in mind that I shall savour treatily on the Big Day.

I still have a goal in the shape of a pair of size ten skinnies. I'm keeping going and am definitely up for nattering around the festive campfire!

WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Mon 10-Dec-12 09:40:37

yes, thanks BIWI for guiding us through another boot camp. i've posted before about how this WOE has changed my life for the better, and having you all here makes it even better

at BIWI's suggestion i have added more columns for those who would like to continue to weigh in throughout the festive period and into New Year, and this should tide everyone over until a new boot camp and a new spreadsheet (i'll probably record my weight as it might stop me going overboard! (hmm. we'll see)). i won't be doing biggest loser or archiving non-weigher-inerers in that time, so don't worry if you don't plan to weigh in!

NewStartSameStory Mon 10-Dec-12 09:50:27

Thanks willie. Much appreciated. I think I need having to confess my weight to keep me on track.

Another crap week food wise last week. Strangely enough though I am still losing weight so I guess my crap weeks now are no where near as bad as my previous crap weeks. I reckon it will take at least one more if not more bootcamps to get me completely on track with my eating. But thanks to everyone for all the support and getting me started on sorting the eating thing out.

Morning all,

Definitely keeping on keeping on for me as well. 9st is my target so now have 7lb to go. grin. I am just sooooo relaxed about it as well. As this is now the woe I eat the majority of the time I know it will happen. Slowly but surely. <happy shrug of the shoulders>

THC. I can get away with just a slice of bread if it's unavoidable, but any meal which is carb heavy leads to terrible stomach cramps. I was (mis?)-diagnosed with IBS and taking medication for it before I started this woe. Within weeks I realised I didn't need the medication anymore .......

B: 3 x bacon, egg, mushrooms and tomato.
Pint of Berroca. Coffee with cream.

Ty singing

I only gave it up as experiment but even something I did not know it was in made me feel pretty rough to . So that's gluten out the window for me perment I suspect . Also found my sweet tooth gone to one biscuit was enough for mr instead of eating whole packet and I left 1/2 bar of chocolate which is unheard of

But I can eat meat quite happily

WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Mon 10-Dec-12 10:21:36

thc it was only after a few weeks of this woe that i realised how much i had got used to stomach cramps as part of everyday life. i have found that sauces that contain flour now give me cramps and sometimes the runs

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Mon 10-Dec-12 10:23:29

Wheat intolerance is one of the things that Dr Briffa and Zoe Harcombe both talk about as issues that many more people actually suffer from than is commonly believed. Briffa's view is that it's because grains are not sufficiently primal, (I'm paraphrasing here), and especially more modern strains of wheat.

Certainly I'm much less likely to suffer from IBS when I'm low carbing. And my gut is currently rumbling away, after my weekend as confirmation of that!

halfthesize Mon 10-Dec-12 10:29:58

Morning All & thanks thanks BIWI for another thread and all your support since April.

willie thanks thanks for your wonderful spreadsheet.

I've woken up feeling very Christmassy grin so decided to finish off Christmas cake and start a bit of Christmas cooking, as I now have 2 sick children at home...

halfthesize Mon 10-Dec-12 10:40:11

have just added a pic to my profile, of my new dress, think it looks pretty good on grin

cathyandclaire Mon 10-Dec-12 10:50:59

Oh half you look fab!

halfthesize Mon 10-Dec-12 10:56:16

Thanks cathy I am trying to find a pic to put up of me 3 years ago, when I was about 4 stone heavierblush think I must of hid from camera alot!!

halfthesize Mon 10-Dec-12 11:20:25

ok now uploaded me before, am horrified!!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Mon 10-Dec-12 11:34:12

Wow! You look fantastic!

Half you look fantastic! grin. I must find the courage to post some pics.

halfthesize Mon 10-Dec-12 12:11:34

Thanks ladies x x

Doshusallie Mon 10-Dec-12 12:36:11

Half you look stunning. Absolutely stunning. grin

Daren't weight this morning, will do so tomorrow after some damage limitation from weekend. Have terrible runs after crap on Saturday night. sad

Went to the gym this morning.

Breakfast - greek yog
Snacks - 2 teaspoons PB.

Need to go shopping later have no food.

Didn't get software sales job second interview. sad great feedback considering it was a no, but they need someone doing software sales NOW that can commit to a 70 hour week. Fair enough - I don't want to see less of my boys than I do now so I am ok with that. Second interview with another company Thursday.

Am feeling very xmassy. grin

WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Mon 10-Dec-12 12:39:21

you do look brilliant half

i will see if i might put up some after pics (not sure about before pics at all! there are so very few of them in any case)

that's a shame dosh, but if it came with those downsides then it's for the best really? good luck with the next one

halfthesize Mon 10-Dec-12 12:44:23

Honestly, without you ladies I would have never made it this far, so a massive thankyou to everyone thanks

Doshusallie Mon 10-Dec-12 13:16:56

Lunch - still wading through the butternut squash soup, had it with some thickly sliced gammon ham

Lunchtime thought - Liz Hurley said she keeps her weight down by "always being hungry"- she clearly hasn't ever heard of LC!!

caramelwaffle Mon 10-Dec-12 13:36:50

Great pictures half!

A real difference. Fantastic.

EwanHoHoHozami Mon 10-Dec-12 14:19:29

half you are a fox

halfthesize Mon 10-Dec-12 14:47:03

grin just wanted to show how this bootcamp had worked for me x

toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Mon 10-Dec-12 14:53:52

half <wolf whistle> you look fab !!!!! Love your hair too envy

Just checking in to say thanks to biwi and willie for bootcamp brilliance, and I will def continue. I think logging my weight each week will help reduce the crazy Christmas consumption a bit!!

Will weigh tomorrow, having a strict day today to try to undo some of the damage of the past week. However, the inlaws leave today! So no more puddings after dinner to tempt me. I'm going to try to be really strict this week up until my night out on Saturday, to reduce the carb tummy bloat for my LBD.

MsRinky Mon 10-Dec-12 16:51:58

I want to look like Half. I think it's going to take until next Christmas, but never mind. The time will pass anyway, may as well put it to good use.

By the way, if you are going to recklessly consume carbs and sugar I can assure you that there is no finer place than the Hand and Flowers. We ate there yesterday and it was staggeringly good. I won't torture you all by describing it, especially the pudding. Despite that I weighed in this morning, and brought my total loss on Bootcamp to 10lbs in 10 weeks.

I am trying to let go of the mentality that I should have lost 20 in that time. Slow and steady wins the race.

Msrinky 10lbs in 10 weeks is great! Just remember you did it by eating yummy food not steamed fish, steamed brocolli and dry Ryvita. Yuck. I'm with you now on the mindset of slowly, slowly.

Dosh good luck with next interviews. Remember the saying, what's for you won't go by you. <goes all Woo on the thread>. grin

Hi everyone, thanks for the encouragement after last weekends carbathon, thanks have been trying really hard this week and have lost whatever I piled on plus another half a pound so 9 stone 3! grin
I'm going to try to be really strict between now and Saturday when the first of the christmas meals is.
I've also decided that over christmas I'm going to eat whatever I like - but really think about how much I want it and whether its worth it - not just shovelling in crap because 'it's christmas' smile
Well done on the losses everyone!

vnmum Mon 10-Dec-12 20:58:09

half you look fab. How did it go at the vets? Did they do bloods?

I stuck to bootcamp food yesterday, maybe a little dairy heavy as I was hungry from my carbathon, but still all low carb food, no cheats, and this morning I had gained back the pound I had lost the day before. Go figure?
Anyway, feeling healthier and more energetic from just 1 day back on the wagon.
Christmas plans for me are to eat as low carb as possible, not eat stuff for the sake of it coz it's there, and strict bootcamp from the 27th.

halfthesize Mon 10-Dec-12 22:01:59

Thanks for all your lovely comments ladies.grin vnmum they think she was poisoned so have done bloods. She actually seems a little better today, thankfullysmile

hazchem Mon 10-Dec-12 22:29:06

Totally struggling using the app as I am unable to review before posting. Not sure if it's the app or the fact I have a small screen on my phone any one else using the andriod app?

THC I think that i will never eat wheat again. I had one particularly bad night after eating pizza (had been drinking) and I realised even if I enjoy the food I feel so dreadful after I just can't deal with it.

Had a pretty good day foodwise yesterday although am going to actually print of the rules instead of bumping long.

Oh and a yogurt question. I have been eating a greek yogurt but have found a plain yogurt that has lower carb content then greek yogurt however it also has lower fat. Which would be better do you think? Greek yogurt higher fat and slightly higher carb or lower carb but also lower fat.

B: Low carb pancakes (eggs, cream cheese, coconut flour, cinnamon) Yummy

WineGless Mon 10-Dec-12 22:53:55

Half - whitwoo! You look gorgeous!

Failed today and pissed off with self. Checking in to keep myself on track

halfthesize Mon 10-Dec-12 23:08:45

Thanks wine tomorrows another day, just write today off x

JessicaWakefield Mon 10-Dec-12 23:15:01

THC I absolutely get that too now with gluten. If I'm tempted to fall off the wagon the thought of the stomach cramps and general post-carb ugh factor is as much of a deterrent as the scales. That said I had two bad days food wise on Friday and Saturday. Really nothing compared to how I was eating pre-LC but I find that all of this clean eating makes me super sensitive to rubbish food. On both Saturday and Sunday mornings I therefore had a carb hangover and it took me ages to get out of my coma, get up and get on with the day which really isn't on as very unfair on DH and DCs. Sunday and today have been totally on message and am feeling good again.

Vnmum hugs to you. I really do hope that your DH is feeling better soon.

Half wow! Big congratulations to you on your weight loss, you look incredible!

Doshu sorry to hear about the job but as you say perhaps it wasn't right for you. I'm sure you'll find something great soon.

And finally thank you to BIWI for carrying on with the BC threads. Our chat about LC and other matters has really kept me focused and changed my attitude towards food. And I feel so well. No stomach pains, no headaches, no bloating, I could go on but I know that I'm preaching to the converted!

ViperInTheManger Tue 11-Dec-12 00:36:17

Gosh it has taken me ages to find you all! My threads I'm on has vanished and I have wandered all over the place before I found this.

I had another crap day, started well but got caught up with stuff then had to go to Tesco, having missed tea, so ended up eating Pringles shock but I will try again tomorrow to clamber back onto the wagon.

I agree with you all about eating mindfully. I think that has really changed for me while doing this. A "cheat" is no longer a crisis that derails everything as I only eat what I really want.

captainmummy Tue 11-Dec-12 08:19:13

Hazchem - don't know about the fat query,but did read an article about a hospital-approved diet to reduce (i think) high blood pressure (is it called hypertension? Think that's what it was) anywy, was interesting because it is basically bootcamp-light. Lots of veg, no fruit for the first 2 weeks then 2 peices a day, lots of (lean) protein, and greek yog, tho they stipulated low-fat! (no cream or butter sad) Not sure how accurate the article was (was on internet) but it shows that the medical profession might be coming round to the idea that lots of high-carb, low-fat, low-cal food actually might notbe best.

What's the yog, BTW?

Doshusallie Tue 11-Dec-12 09:39:18

morning all. Thanks for all good wishes re interviews. My week of dossing as boss is away has turned into a mega busy one with all the interviews and prep for those, plus 2 school plays etc etc! I have to do an IQ test before the interview proper tomorrow, gulp. That should be interesting..... confused

Bit of a dilemma re lunch today as having it with a client and have no idea where we'll eat. Have dropped heavy hints about a greasy spoon. Annoyed because I really need to low carb today - have had 2 strict low carb days (except bloody butternut squash which I have now poured away) but am still 9 4 after the Saturday night blow out - determined to get to 9 2 by Friday, and if I am forced to eat a sandwich at lunch today I shall be most peeved.

Have had ham and eggs this morning instead of high fat yoghurt for breakfast just in case, and tea will be salmon and veg.

Doshusallie Tue 11-Dec-12 09:40:57

bollocks - client has just said Pret or Caffe Nero. What the hell can I eat at those? Off to google.

Doshusallie Tue 11-Dec-12 09:42:23

Hmm - no bread crayfish and avocado salad looks promising

caramelwaffle Tue 11-Dec-12 11:48:13

A huge thanks thanks thank you to BIWI for these threads.

Also to Willie for all the work on the spreadsheets thanks

Willowisp Tue 11-Dec-12 12:06:16

Hazchem, I make a similar pancake but use oatbran (very good fibre provider!) & veo valley soured cream. Which is low carb/high fat.

In answer to your question I would go low carb & fat. smile

half well done, you look fab !

ilovemyteddy Tue 11-Dec-12 12:41:09

Hello all

Half you look amazeballs!

Also wanted to add my thanks to BIWI and Willie for keeping us all on the straight and narrower smile And thanks for keeping the spreadhseet going - I need it!

MsRinky I know what you mean about wanting to lose more than 10lbs on Bootcamp. I am so fecking close to losing 5 stones this year, but it's coming off in small bits and pieces now. I know it's because I am eating chocolate and not drinking enough water. But it's soooo cold...

My strategy for Christmas is to cheat only on Christmas Day. I have until 15th Jan to lose another 9.4lbs to reach my initial target. Don't think I'll do it, but I'll be damn close grin

Captain - that's interesting what you posted about hypertension. My blood pressure has always been high, but has now normalised since I have been on this WOE.

EwanHoHoHozami Tue 11-Dec-12 12:46:31

Today is the kind of day I'd have usually fallen into a cakeshop via a chip emporium. Just found out that I haven't even got a first round interview for a job that looked a perfect fit on paper and I'm pretty gutted. It's so hard not to take it personally sad

I am however going to take out my frustration on the nearest municipal baths. Nothing like 50 lengths of really bad splashy front crawl to get some positivity back.

caramelwaffle Tue 11-Dec-12 12:52:38

Sorry to hear that Ewan Good luck with the next interview!

janglebells2013 Tue 11-Dec-12 12:54:05

oh half you look amazing! you really do. right where's everyone else's pics?! smile

i got the job i applied for. yay. looking forward to it. eating has been going well. last week (i think it was thurs or friday) i had a bad day of eating - loads of sugar and carbs. and i swear my tummy hurt, for days afterwards, even last night it was still sore. do you think thats all related to one day of eating bad?
or could it be to do with diary, as i made a quiche with cream cheese and eggs and had it 2 days in a row

caramelwaffle Tue 11-Dec-12 13:00:52

Congratulations jangle

halfthesize Tue 11-Dec-12 15:19:04

Congrats jangle fab news and yes lets have some more pics smile

captainmummy Tue 11-Dec-12 19:10:07

Well done Jangle great news.

Ate quite well today, if a bit sporadic and no specific meals. Coffee with cream, handful of mixed nuts, slice chorizo, 2 bowls chicken soup. Dinner was cauliflower mash and chilli left over from yesterday, picked out most of the beans.

Debating whether to have another coffee with cream.

HumphreyCobbler Tue 11-Dec-12 19:17:14

hello everyone. Well done for bootcamp smile

I had a day with bread and sugar at the weekend and I felt crap by the end of it. Bread is like a drug, one slice and I want more. They I got the bloat, stomach cramps etc. Was seriously relieved to eat healthily again the next day.

Now DH is eating like this too cooking is particularly easy.

My Christmas eating plan is to stick to it most of the time, with the odd mince pie thrown in, but to drink a little more than I usually allow myself too. Christmas eve I will get out the Baileys, I am looking forward to that.

ViperInTheManger Tue 11-Dec-12 19:26:29

Ewan Keep your chin up, the right job will come along.

Jangle Well done on yours! I have just had a bad spell of eating and am feeling very nauseous and under par. I'm hoping it'll wear off soon and is just due to the crap I've eaten.

Teddy Well done, 5stone, wow! Maybe this time next year I'll be able to say that too

As for pictures - dream on ladies! You can keep posting them, you all look great, but I'm not out of widescreen yet! grin

Doshusallie Tue 11-Dec-12 19:51:35

YOU CAN ALL RELAX!!!! i had an egg, tuna and cucumber salad in Pret, picked out the onion and cherry tomatoes. [Halo]

Very long and boring meeting this afternoon and then had a 2 hour drive to collect the boys in the dark and fog. To be told that DS2 (6) had been told off for "stealing" a little decorative bell at school (he is a complete magpie) - Dh went predictably bananas and banned him from gymnastics on Saturday. Which TBH might give me a chance to actually get a tree, decorate it, do the other dex, and generally get with the Christmas program. So busy right now I meet myself going out when I am coming in. At least tomorrow's interview has been postponed so I have an unexpected morning at home to try and take stock.

Dh cross with me because - he wrote some serial numbers for his jeep on the shopping list - which I took shopping and then threw out. I have no words........angry

have had some pork scratchings when I got in (was so hungry my tummy hurt) and am now drinking a seasonal gin.

Love to all!! xx

halfthesize Tue 11-Dec-12 20:08:50

teddy that's amazing well done you grin

WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Tue 11-Dec-12 20:09:11

Well done jangle!

Look at us norty pair viper talking about mince pies on another thread!

hazchem Tue 11-Dec-12 21:05:18

A delayed viewing of your photo half but wow! Thanks for sharing it's good to have positive images.

* Captain* and Willowisp Thanks for that about the yogurt. They are both Jalna which is an aussie brand. Otherwise I'd just have total.

jangle that's great news about the job. When do you start?

I'm considering making chocolate nut balls for christmas eve. so blitzing mixed nuts until almost a paste then rolling in coco then coconut. What do you think about that? also has anyone used those cocoa nib things? They seam expensive but could be good.

Found you!

BIWI thank you for the threads. I have been rubbish recently, and don't even enjoy it, but can't seem to find time to sort my head out and get back in the zone.

MsRinky, I'll need to at least next Christmas too, like you (have I got it right?) 10 lbsoff. We are heading in the right direction at least.

Half you look bloody brilliant!

janglebells2013 Tue 11-Dec-12 22:18:32

thanks for the congrats people smile its only a part time thing, nothing major just a few hours a week, will help us though. i start when police checks go through - a few weeks hopefully

those nut choc things sound amazing, we have to get some LC Christmas treats on the go!

halfthesize Tue 11-Dec-12 22:31:30

Eve all and what a lovely bunch of ladies you are with all your kind comments, they have made me smile & blush at the same time. I personally think we are all doing fantasticwink

I have had a great day christmas shopping where I managed to buy myself another new dress and a lovely jumpergrin

Dinner was pork chops with sweede chips, it was yummy..

hazchem the nut choc balls sound really fab x

ViperInTheManger Tue 11-Dec-12 22:48:27

Willie The funny thing about me talking about mince pies is that I hate the things! I don't like dried fruit at all so I make all of the traditional Christmas stuff like cake, pudding and pies for everybody else but it just doesn't tempt me. Sadly I find other alternatives to tempt myself with!

Thinking about low carb treats. How about chocolate truffles? 7oz plain chocolate (melted), stir in 1oz butter and 3tablespoons extra thick double cream. Cool till thick and mouldable. Roll into balls and either dust with cocoa or coat with melted chocolate.

I have been good today but I just don't seem to get back on track at the moment and I have a Christmas lunch out tomorrow. It is a set menu and I haven't requested an alternative to Xmas pudding (bleeurgh!) in the hope it might encourage me to stop pigging out!

WineGless Tue 11-Dec-12 22:50:09

Thank you so much to whichever one of you lovely ladies who nominated me for the Xmas appeal. My present arrived tonight about an hour ago and have been on tears since at the generosity of a stranger. DH cannot get his head around the concept at all.

BIWI your first thread popped up at just the right time. My 40 th birthday as looming and I couldn't face another birthday feeling fat and unhappy. I have lost 2 stone since April and feel so much better both physically and mentally. This week I am finally off my anti depressants for the first time in nearly 5 years. my marriage which was on the rocks is looking more stable and I can honestly say that I feel like the old me.

I couldn't have done it without the support and friendship I have found on these threads.

You have all contributed and should share in my lovely gifts as I don't feel deserving of them at all.

Love and peace to all

ViperInTheManger Tue 11-Dec-12 22:50:44

half I meant to say, it must be lovely for you buying clothes now as it'll be so exciting to see the new you!

JessicaWakefield Tue 11-Dec-12 22:50:54

Ewan hugs to you - sorry to hear about the job and well done for taking it out on the pool rather than the carbs.

Doshu I love your posts, they always make me laugh, you're like the Carrie Bradshaw of our thread!

Haven't weighed for a while as scales fell out of the cupboard and there are wires hanging out. Believed last reading as it was a STS but they do look quite dodgy. Can't really justify a new set at the moment with all other Christmas expenses so for the moment I am free from their judgement!

JessicaWakefield Tue 11-Dec-12 22:55:07

Wine I was writing while you were posting so have just caught up. What an inspirational testimony to how this woe can improve so many parts of our lives aside from weight. thanks to you and well done, you enjoy those gifts, you deserve them.

caramelwaffle Tue 11-Dec-12 23:07:04

That's lovely Wine

halfthesize Tue 11-Dec-12 23:13:15

wine what a lovely post and yes viper it does feel nice now to go shopping for clothesgrin can't believe how many years I just hated clothes shoppingsad just brought stuff to cover me up!!

toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Wed 12-Dec-12 01:28:50

wine have just read the Christmas appeal thread, saw you on it, and came here to say how lovely for you. Your post here has just made me well up and blub a little bit am so pleased for you. You def deserve it, am so glad someone nominated you. Hugs.

sybilfaulty Wed 12-Dec-12 06:54:19

Wine, your story is inspirational. Hope you enjoyed your present. You richly deserved it.

Ewan, sorryo about the job. I hope another opportunity presents itslef soon.

AM 1lb down, so feeling good. Difficult drive though in a minute as it's very foggy here.

Have a good day everyone.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Wed 12-Dec-12 07:53:37

Wine - how lovely <sobs> thanks

Busy with work so no time for a proper post. But last day is tomorrow, thankfully.

WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Wed 12-Dec-12 08:43:53

that's so lovely wine, i'm all teary

WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Wed 12-Dec-12 08:45:44

it's properly bleak midwinterish here, almost a hoar frost

captainmummy Wed 12-Dec-12 09:09:26

Lots of hard frost here too, am debating whether to drive to Horsham and do some xmas shopping, or sit inside and do some xmas cooking? (Am thinking I'm too young to be afraid of a little ice!)

Breakfast - 2 egg omellette with cream.

Jacaqueen Wed 12-Dec-12 09:24:30

Updated the spreadsheet for this week thinking it was the last one but I see Willie is determined to keep us accountable for our actions over the next few weeks.

Wine you really deserve the gift and the rest of you deserve one too for making this such an inspirational and supportive thread.

I don't always post much but I try and read the thread every few days. I love the fact that I know that you lot are here doing this with me. The diet, the thread and you lot are just part of my life now.

EwanHoHoHozami Wed 12-Dec-12 10:29:55

Oh wine your post has given me a leaky eye! Good for you, my love

Doshusallie Wed 12-Dec-12 10:37:49

Morning all. Brrrrrrr, freezicating here. Dh threw up several times this morning - I decided that was reason enough for me not to go to the gym. grin I do hope this house isn't coming down with anything.

Greek yog for brekkie. As per.

Wine - how lovely that you got a gift and you do deserve it. I am so happy that your marriage is getting better, i know you were really unhappy for a while there. And 2 stone is mega!!

[ponders Carrie Bradshaw - would love to be as thin as her - and live in New York - smile]

Doshusallie Wed 12-Dec-12 10:45:23

PS - scales said 9 3 this morning (so a pound down from yesterday and back on the road to 9 2) and then said 9 5 and 9 6!!!!! Guess which one I am going to take????

JessicaWakefield Wed 12-Dec-12 13:03:45

BIWI, every single person on here has seen huge benefits with BC. Not just loosing weight but I think Wine's testimony really says it all. Eating well, giving your body real food not awful fake stuff just makes you feel great and when you feel great you're happy and confident and the world is a good place. So it's made me wonder whether you've ever considered a bit of empire building - taking bootcamp to the masses as it were? Not just to make pots of money (although that would be nice too) but also to help people see the changes that we have? Just a few weeks ago I was with a very good friend who was in tears over her weight and couldn't understand why she wasn't getting thin on Muller Lights and lots of fruit. If people were aware of our ways (gosh sounds like a cult) how incredible would that be!? I know the BC rules aren't novel but they are a synthesis of all your research and reading presented in a way that's really easy to understand which I'm sure would have mass market appeal. Perhaps you could team up with Dr Briffa when you go to his lecture? Just a thought, but I remember reading that Weight Watchers started in one lady's living room (although the less said about that woe the better!)

Hope you're all managing to keep warm. Have a good day everyone.

caramelwaffle Wed 12-Dec-12 14:05:44

Hello everyone.

I am up in weight here but I have a dirty, rotten cold and have eaten comfort foods. So not worth it. They just don't taste the same or "comfort" anymore.

It's soooo cold out I just want to curl up and sleep.

Dosh Hope you don't all come down with the bug: there are some nasty virus's going around at the moment. Hope your husband gets well soon.

ilovemyteddy Wed 12-Dec-12 16:18:12

Wine I am so glad you were nominated. The MN Secret Santa thing is just brilliant. I've donated for the past two years and it really is great getting details of the person you are donating to, and trying to choose the right things for the MN and her family.

And I'm so glad that this WOE has changed things in your life for the better ((hugs)) Me, too. I work in a physically challenging job, and this year in particular I have noticed that I'm not getting physically tired at all, and I am working much harder than I have done in the past. My brain is still fried at the end of the day, but I can keep up with my colleagues who are all much much younger than me!!

To those LC-ers on the thread who still have a way to go I'm sure I don't need to tell you that you will get there if you stick to this WOE. If you had told me at the start of the year, when I weighed 16 stones that I would be almost 5 stones lighter by the end of it, I would have laughed at you. But I was 11 stone 1lb this morning - I can SEE a number beginning with 10 stones. I can SMELL it. I WILL get there! And you will too.

Jessica I totally agree with you about taking LC to the masses. If I had the money (and the business sense) I would love to start a company that sold LC 'fast food' - i.e. food for people who are out shopping, working etc etc. That's the bit that I find the most difficult. Not being able to pop into M&S for a sandwich when I am at work, or on a shopping trip.

It's a bit early for New Year's Resolutions but mine for 2013 is to get down to 10 st 7 or maybe even 10st and to GO TO THE BLOODY GYM at least four times a week. That's going to be harder than this WOE. I hate exercise (I may have said this before.) grin

captainmummy Wed 12-Dec-12 17:01:22

ilove - i think that's a brill idea! Stuff for people (like me) who can pick up a 'something' tosnack on in the car, or as a treat, sorta like a choc bar or pack of crisps.

How about cauliflower-fishcakes type things? Or celeriac crisps cheese'n'onion flavour?

ilovemyteddy Wed 12-Dec-12 17:31:09

We need a trip to the Dragon's Den for some funding grin

halfthesize Wed 12-Dec-12 18:27:25

Hi All

Loving the Dragon's Den ideawink

teddy just seen your pics, you look amazinggrin

halfthesize Wed 12-Dec-12 18:28:21

caramelwaffle hope you feel better soon x

JessicaWakefield Wed 12-Dec-12 18:35:59

Seriously, that's a great idea Teddy! And we have the numbers to back up a business case in the form of Willie's spreadsheet of wonder! I can't remember the figures but didn't something like 40 or 50 of us bootcamp for the whole ten weeks and wasn't the total weight loss along the lines of twenty stone??? Maybe more? I am certain that if that was compared to a calorie controlled diet that this woe would be shown to be superior in terms of overall weight loss and adherence to the plan.

Wine, that was a lovely post and you deffo deserve it.

Teddy you inspire me every day. I am where you were and you make me feel it is doable if that makes sense without sounding over the top!

Jangles - is that you jan?!?!? Congrats on job either way.

Ewan, sry bout your rubbish news.

I do agree about taking LC to the masses, I'd especially like to buy soups that aren't potato or sugar loaded and salads that don' have rice/pasta in them much more easily for lunches. Or 'protein pots' lots of meat/fish with salad or veg type things and a little pot of mayo with the

For me I am struggling. I know that I don't like how I feel when I eat carbs and sugar (stomach cramps, bloated etc...), buti can't seem to just not eat them. Today has been the first day in ages I have done better, and drinking more water helped. I 'know' what I need to do, but just sabotage myself at every turn. It is almost like I somehow think subconsciously that I'm not worth it or am bound to fail as I have been fat for so long. I am determined to keep going. I am going to go back later and post my weights on the speeadsheet and stay honest with myself (and you lot).

Today I am LCing and looking forward.

B - three slices of bacon, coffee and water.
S - peanuts and smoked salmon/cream cheese things
D - will be steak, green beans and salad.

ilovemyteddy Wed 12-Dec-12 19:22:00

MrsHP have you read the Idiot Proof Diet where the authors talk about the emotional side of eating and how you feel about yourself? I'll try and find mine and find some inspirational quotes.

Which carbs are you sabotaging yourself with? Bread? Sugar? Can we offer any alternatives for you to eat?

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Wed 12-Dec-12 20:07:35

Am up for kicking some Dragon butt!!!

mrshp I totally get the self sabotage thing, and the emotional eating thing. Sorry, don't have any magic solutions for you, but you are def not alone in struggling to feel you "deserve" to be healthy and happy.

I was doing well for yesterday and today, just eggs, protein and veg, but went to a friends for my tea tonight. She knew about the LCing, had asked what I could eat, and I had emailed with a few easy ideas. However when I got there, she was all in a fluster and said "I got held up at work so I just ran into M&S and got the dine in for two I hope it'll be ok!!"

So I've had chicken breast in some kind of cheesey breadcrumby type topping, was offered mash but only took a spoonful, and roasted parsnips (which I adore so had my full share). And then <drumroll please> melt in the middle type choc pudding with cream. I hate to say it, but i didnt resist - it was very yummy. I said no to wine and drank several glasses water instead.

Just waiting for the tummy rumbles to start ..... And I still haven't weighed in cos I was hoping for a couple of good days to balance out the inlaws inflicted bad week. Will just weigh tomorrow and be damned!!

Hope everyone's week is going ok. Will catch up with thread in a min.

Doshusallie Wed 12-Dec-12 20:44:17

Tea was 3 low carb sausages with leeks, courgettes and mushrooms cooked in double cream. Yummy. Presentation interview 9.30am tomorrow. Eek. shock

I've just got it recently and have been reading, lots of it resonated with me, and I am trying to remember it all the time.

I actually got quite emotional earlier writing that. Basically it has been a combo of things, mostly hot cross buns as an after dinner snack, lck or organisation so having baguettes at work. It is definitely addictive, I think the bread. I need to stock up on pork scratchings for the crunchiness feeling I think! I am feeling better just writing it down a bit I think. I have managed today, and am jus going to focus on one day at a time. I think focusing on 5 stone just seems impossible!

Good luck for tomorrow dosh!

ilovemyteddy Wed 12-Dec-12 20:55:34

Break down your targets MrsHP

Wrt the baguettes can you just eat the filling? I know it seems like a waste but thats what i do if there is no other choice. If i have to have a cake i make some of the basic almond sponge in the IPD recipe book. They're delish!

halfthesize Wed 12-Dec-12 21:04:28

Good luck Dosh

Oh I like that idea teddy, thank you. Breaking it down I think is key for me now. I am currently in control and able to have a good day tomorrow so feeling positive now.

WineGless Wed 12-Dec-12 21:31:34

<Shuffles in slightly embarrassed about last nights ramblings but thanks for kind words>

Good luck for tomorrow Dosh
Ewan, sorry about the job
Jan well done on your job

Mrs HP- keep going, you are doing so well. The IPD was key for me to get to grips with my emotional eating. Post every hour of you need to, one of us will be here to listen. Think about small goals rather than the end goal.
Sending positive vibes

janglebells2013 Wed 12-Dec-12 21:39:52

dosh good luck for your interview tomorrow the presentation bit sounds scary!

Mrs yes its jan, im sorry youve been struggling but its good to hear you are getting back on track and thinking about it and even expressing yourself and getting emotional about it can really help. i think tears can heal sometimes, and it sounds like you know more whats going on for you which is so positive. i have had emotional issues with eating for a long time and know how hard it can be - maybe journalling how you feel could help as well.

im struggling with making christmas plans with exdh - so stressful. ended up upset tonight - talking to him is like talking to a 12 year old no joke. so i did more snacks later on i think it was comfort eating but at least i kept low carb.

tomorrow, it is onwards, and upwards/downwards/whatever the case may be!

my head is quite melted think i need to get to bed!

ViperInTheManger Wed 12-Dec-12 23:00:54

Well I am eating this while snacking on Tesco crispy bacon strips, it's like eating crisps but has no carbs. I had a Christmas dinner today, wasn't perfect but was a lot better than I would have been before this WOE

Wine I loved your post too. I was lucky enough to be able to donate this year (not to you sadly!) but think it is a wonderful thing to be part of and a greatshow of the positivity of all involved with Mumsnet.

Dosh Good luck tomorrow. Hope it goes well.

MrsHP I have wondered for years if there is a psychological explanation for my weight although I don't see it easily. I have just started reading a book about it so will let you know if I discover anything amazing.

I have been watching a programme called Addicted to Food on one of the satellite channels (made by the Oprah Winfrey Network) about a centre in Texas that treats anorexics, bulimics and compulsive eaters which has been interesting but they seem to imply that most problems stem from childhood abuse or neglect which I know is not true in my case.

Jan Good luck with the Christmas plans, this time of year is stressful enough without all that!

caramelwaffle Wed 12-Dec-12 23:40:50

Thank you half

Great pictures teddy

Good luck dosh

halfthesize Thu 13-Dec-12 06:58:39

sad ok just weighed myself and am upangry not a happy girl!!!!
off to the gym this morning, first time in two weeks.....
i really need to b drinking more water and stop saying yes to the odd chocolate, they add up blush
it's freezing here today, so present wrapping after the gym I think.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Thu 13-Dec-12 09:39:50

Morning all! Last day at work for me, thank goodness. Have a presentation this afternoon, which we have only just finished (gulp), and it's been a busy last couple of weeks.

I haven't been near the scales or the gym for a while, not helped by the fact that my trainer is off work this week, so not there to whip me into shape!

Re the psychological side of eating, yes, it's a key aspect of weight/weight gain. If it was only as simple as satisfying our physiological needs, life would be much simpler.

Reading the IPD is a good thing to do, as they are very good on the emotional side of eating.

I would also, though, suggest that you read more scientific stuff about low carbing - this is what has really cemented my commitment to it. Understanding not only the likely impact on my weight, but (more importantly in many ways) understanding the likely impact on my health was a real eye-opener for me. Yes, my immediate focus is to lose the weight - but knowing what I know now about the science behind low carbing has really helped me to commit and remain focused for most of the time

The other thing to consider is the phrase 'comfort eating'. Why do we talk about certain foods in this way? I believe that it's something to do with the pleasure centres of the brain - and I don't know a huge amount to do with this - but I would hypothesise that our experiences of certain foods, let's say something like chocolate - triggers a memory of pleasure, and the brain then responds in a certain way.

I think it's to do with dopamine production in the brain, which ends up 'hard-wiring' us to associate certain foods with pleasure.

Wiki on dopamine

For us, we have to 're-wire' our brains. Some of you are already experiencing this - how many people have confessed about cheating, but then not really enjoying it? Or certainly not enjoying the after-effects?!

Already, we are learning that the foods we appear to crave are not associated with pleasure - however, it takes a long time to really change these associations, especially as culturally these foods are all associated with reward/pleasure/comfort. So not only are we battling against our own brains, we're also battling with what everyone arounds us believes to be foods to enjoy.

WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Thu 13-Dec-12 10:56:35

flying visit to say i came across this during the course of my work today. i have no idea of the journal quality but safe to assume this was peer-reviewed. interesting anyway

caramelwaffle Thu 13-Dec-12 11:35:01

Really informative post Biwi

Thank you.

WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Thu 13-Dec-12 11:58:28

hmm not certain of peer-review actually, so treat with caution, but interesting nonetheless

halfthesize Thu 13-Dec-12 12:18:37

Hi back from the gym where my PT gave me a really hard work out, think I am dyingwink

BIWI good luck with presentation and thanks for the pep talk, its just what I needed. Really back on track today, I have realised that going to the gym psychophysically keeps me motivated re LCarbing and makes me happyconfused who knew!!!!

Just had a lovely cheese omelette with leeks in for lunchsmile

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Thu 13-Dec-12 12:47:37

Morning all, well it's freezing here, actually it's below freezing it is minus 4!! So I think I have shivered off a few calories on my trip to village and back this am.

Weighed in, half a pound up, better than I was expecting. Strict today and tomorrow, to get ready for LBD night out on sat. I am wavering about putting a picture up for you guys, for my anonymity and because I am nowhere near as svelte as the other ladies. But it was a LBD bootcamp so maybe ... ?!

I think I will see if my local library has copy of IPD, sounds like it could help me.

Have a good day y'all.
B 2 eggs scrambled with butter and cream
S latte with full fat milk
L I think it will be bacon with mushrooms
D turkey mince needs using up, any suggestions?

halfthesize Thu 13-Dec-12 13:49:41

toomuch you can just crop your head off, that way anonymity is safe grin

I also woke up too below freezing today, its still not risen that much brrrrrrrrr!!

WineGless Thu 13-Dec-12 14:33:04

Too much you are gorgeous! Dont put yourself down and get the pics on!!!

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Thu 13-Dec-12 15:14:52

Thanks wine blush I'll do it if you do!!

WineGless Thu 13-Dec-12 16:32:54

You're on!!

halfthesize Thu 13-Dec-12 17:26:11

cant wait to see these pics ladies smile

Just had LC shepherds pie but feeling really bloated today since getting back from the gymhmm Hopefully drinking more water will help..

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Thu 13-Dec-12 17:36:59


It'll be an honest pic too as I don't own any spanx-y type squishy underwear.


Boobz Thu 13-Dec-12 18:35:42

Am so behind on the threads as have been in Rome since last Saturday, but have skimmed and seen half's amazing pics! Well done!

Obviously carbs and plenty of wine carbs have featured this week and dreaming getting back on the scales but will be back on the woe and exercise from Sunday as still want to lose another 7lbs by Jan 18th..

Chuffed to be biggest % loser - although i know my diet is slightly different to everyone's here so hard to compare like for like. Well done all for a stirling 10 weeks.

Doshusallie Thu 13-Dec-12 20:51:57

Evening all.

Really proud of myself. Totally smashed the interview and the presentation, even if I say so myself. Unfortunately there is a 3rd stage interview which is another presentation TO A PANEL!!! have told recruiter that I want some demands met before going through that, assuming they want me to.

So even I don't proceed with this one, prepping for the presentation, learning information by rote well enough to present to people who run that business has woken up they grey cells big time. grin

Tired tonight as didn't sleep great rehearsing my words. Had ds2's nativity this afternoon, which was fabulous. A boy in reception actually fell asleep whilst standing in stage singing a song....adorable.

Am drinking a glass of red to wind wise have been a bit sporadic today....Greek yoghurt for brekkie, pkt pork scratchings for lunch on the road, celery cheese and 2 cold sausages for tea. So not much really.

picTURES, picTURES, picTURES!!

halfthesize Thu 13-Dec-12 20:58:43

So pleased your interview/presentation and your ds2's nativity went well Dosh

captainmummy Thu 13-Dec-12 21:01:51

Well done doshu - bit of a pain having to do it all again, but more so! At least you and they willbe sure by the time you get through.

Food tonight was a bit strange - I woke up with that hot,dry tickly feeling at the back of the throat, no energy, dizzy heavy-headedness that presages a rotten cold, so I made (and ate) watercress soup for breakfast, presume for the Vitamin C. Then bacon and egg for lunch.

Dinner tonight - couldn't face much cooking but knocked together a turnip gratin (perfect for comfort food) and a side dish of pureed sprouts with butter and cream, and bacon. It's a dish I saw somewhere as a side for the Xmas dinner, so thought as it's low-carb I'd give it a go. It's actually very nice, as sprouts go. Might make it onto my table with the turkey!

And after the office xmas do was cancelled - was supposed to be going out tonight for pre-christmas drinks with friends, but feeling to cold-y to bother, damndamndamn

halfthesize Thu 13-Dec-12 21:07:07

Boobz hope you had fun in Rome and I am sure you will manage your next goalsmile

ViperInTheManger Thu 13-Dec-12 23:25:34

Isn't it amazing that there is all this information which is in plain sight and yet never seen by most people? I feel a bit like we've stumbled into The Matrix smile

ViperInTheManger Thu 13-Dec-12 23:33:08

Sorry, that was referring to BIWI and Willies posts. Didn't realise we'd gone over to a new page!

Well done on the interview Dosh. Nativity sounds lovely, I miss all that now DCs are older.

captain I had a "start of a cold" last week that never materialised, hope yours fizzles out too.

Going to personal trainer tomorrow . Have had to take last couple of weeks easy after a knee injury but hoping to be back to normal soon.

hazchem Fri 14-Dec-12 05:03:17

Well the choc nut balls were not so good. The cocoa nibs made them make your mouth dry??? Back to the drawing board am now think of vipers truffles with just a small ball of nut paste in the middle. All this is in the name of science of course!

MRSHP I seam to be in a bit of cycle at the moment of going well on LC WOE and then something trips me up (yesterday very hot, weird unhappy conversations with my mum, bit of small fight with my partner ect ect) then all of a sudden I need chocolate and "treat" myself. I know mentally I'm not hungry but want to eat just for eating sake or something. I think the IPD book would be good but feel need to find a home and jobs ect before buying books.

On a sort of side note to the Willie we started giving DS Safflower oil daily to drink. Basically he was covered in weeping eczema leavving him scratchy and unhappy within about 2 weeks of him drinking the oil on a daily basis it went. Safflower oil is high in linoleic acid which is hard to get into a baby. The great think about the safflower oil was the dose was however much he wanted so first day he drank about 75ml of it the next day maybe 50ml he then went down until he wouldn't have any and his ezcema was gone.

wine and BIWI thanks for your posts.

captainmummy Fri 14-Dec-12 08:05:06

Haz - sounds like you are developing a LC ferreroRocher! (Sounds good to me!) Don';t forget the hazelnut in the middle. Re the 'treat' thing - I keep 85% choc in the cupboard, don't eat much (don'tneed much!) but it does help me. I can't even eat 70% choc now without noticing how sweet it is - god knows what milk choc is like now.

My 'cold' has robbed me of my voice - I sound like a hedgehog barking,and it feels like one is stuck in my throat too. Breakfast was linseed-crackers with marmite- again prob for the vitamins (is it B?) and lots of water.

EwanHoHoHozami Fri 14-Dec-12 08:18:53

Dosh nice one for the interview-smashing and good for you for asking for some terms if they ask you back again. I was once up for a job where I had four FOUR interviews before they gave the role to their internal candidate. The buggers.

Totally agree about LC and sugar-ditching being a real slap-on-the-forehead moment. I was watching a TV show about morbid obesity the other night and the dietician was prescribing the patients measly portions of cereal and fruit and wondering why they weren't losing. I was shouting at the telly "GIVE THE MAN A BLOOMING STEAK and BIWIs big stick "

I'd put up a photo but I can't find any 'before' ones because I was such an expert camera-avoider. I'll have another look. Gulp...

halfthesize Fri 14-Dec-12 08:51:05

Ewan it took me ages to find a before and to be honest the one I put up was not me at my biggest. Like you I was good at avoiding camera, quite sad though as hardly any of me with my 2 DS's when they were youngsad

After my workout yesterday I feel like someone has punched and kicked me all over, hopefully it will feel better as off to gym again!!

Just had bacon and egg for breakfast, god I do love this WOEgrin

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 14-Dec-12 08:58:55


6.50 am this morning, and already rowing with DH. So I completely forgot I was going to get back on the scales today.

Silly twat stayed up all night watching the cricket ("I was asleep for most of it, and I slept really well") then decided it was time for everyone to get up because he has to go to work, so came upstairs to very thoughtfully open the curtains. Today is my first day of my Christmas break, and I was sort of hoping for a lie-in. angry

Anyway, I think all is going well so far, although I don't know if I'm holding at 9.5. I have a Christmas lunch today, at a Chinese restaurant, so suspect today isn't going to be so great.

halfthesize Fri 14-Dec-12 09:06:32

BIWI thats rubbish, men can be so thoughtless... Hope you have a lovely lunch. I am off out tonight on our Mum's xmas night, I already know there will be way too much wine involvedblush

I also forgot to weigh in this morning after DS2 decided he wanted to be up most of the night to talkconfused so not in the best of moods at the moment.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 14-Dec-12 09:08:04


Well - TMI alert - realised I hadn't been to the loo, and had only had half a cup of coffee, so did the necessary and then got on the scales.

9 stone 3 and 3/4 lbs!

Very pleased and I shall stop being cross with DH now


halfthesize Fri 14-Dec-12 09:10:31

WOHOO BIWI thats fantastic grin

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 14-Dec-12 09:14:51

It is absolutely fantastically fabulous.

I'm very, very pleased.

That makes 29.75lbs since I first started. Just 3.75lbs to go!

caramelwaffle Fri 14-Dec-12 10:55:36

Over two stones. Fantastic!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 14-Dec-12 11:14:11

Interesting this week, after a carb-filled weekend, that I should see another loss, after the loss of last week. To counteract the weekend, I have skipped breakfast every day this week. I also haven't been to the gym - trainer is poorly and I've been too busy with work. I have, though, also had a drink every night except Monday.

So no bloody clue what all that means!

captainmummy Fri 14-Dec-12 13:16:27

Biwi - that's fab! Under 9st4! For xmas as well. (Tho I have to say that anyone could open the curtains this morning and it would have made no difference! I dont think it got light until about 11...) And its absolutely revolting outside now. Got soaked walking back from work.

halfthesize Fri 14-Dec-12 13:19:48

BIWI grin that is absolutely fantastic, you have done so well! x

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Fri 14-Dec-12 13:55:32

Well done BIWI grin

Horrible, horrible weather here too. Pouring rain, windy, sleety, freezing, very dark. I got my "go out in anything" dog ready for a walk, opened the door, he went out, turned round and went straight back to the sofa!!! Suits me ..... We'll get wet on school pick up later anyway so once is enough!

Trying on dresses later for night out tomorrow. Eek!!

Doshusallie Fri 14-Dec-12 14:11:20

Well bloody done BIWI!!

I have had a similar occurrence - 9 stone bang on this morning. Have had a fair bit of wine this week, and last weekend was bad....and yet have seen a 4 pound drop in the space of a week!! V happy. It will of course be a different story come Monday, as usual, but at least I know I can do it and how!! [fgrin ]

Really really appreciate all your good wishes re internviews, very sweet and supportive, so thankyou. thanks

halfthesize Fri 14-Dec-12 14:22:53

Well done Dosh grin

Piffle Fri 14-Dec-12 14:32:34

Lord I have been lax been so busy with sick kids and so much to do!!
I have STS for about a week which is fine as have lost a stone and am happy to maintain over Xmas...
Will read now and catch up

NewStartSameStory Fri 14-Dec-12 15:00:33

Been signed off with stress. Not really surprising. But eating and food has been bad. No confessions or details as that is not going to change anything. working on trying to sort the stress levels out. lurking quietly so I know where you will be in the new year and hoping you will gently nudge me back on course when life is a little more settled. Looking forward to being back on boot camp, hopefully with life being under control a little more.

captainmummy Fri 14-Dec-12 15:16:09

Hope it gets better for you soon NSSS.

Doshusallie Fri 14-Dec-12 15:19:53

Sorry to hear that new start. Hope things settle down very soon.

Don't think that company are going to even consider me being home based, so that's that one dead. 2 more interviews next week so we will see what happens.

Won't worry about any of that now as it's the weekend yay!!!! Girls's night out tonight, tree and house decorating to do tomorrow and we are going to see the hobbit on Sunday. grin

halfthesize Fri 14-Dec-12 18:34:53

grin Dosh I've just got ready for my girls night, dress on and feel great. hope you have fab time too. sorry about jobsad
newscast hope things improve for you soon x

caramelwaffle Fri 14-Dec-12 18:47:31

Sorry to hear that Newstart Sending you good vibes x

piffle A stone loss is great.

I had a quick peep at a weigh in and am shocked and surprised to have dropped some more weight. Just going to check the spreadsheet.

caramelwaffle Fri 14-Dec-12 18:51:04

4lbs. Blimey. It's all that herbal tea.

WineGless Fri 14-Dec-12 19:10:56

Newstart- we only know what you post on here but it sounds like you have been having a tough time. Time off work is what you need and np be kind to yourself. Hope your Gp is helping with coping strategies and not just dishing out meds. If you need to vent in here, we are listening and do holding hands REALLY well!

WineGless Fri 14-Dec-12 19:12:00

BIWI -brilliant news about your whoosh!
Dosh fingers crossed re other jobs.

To all those on nights out - Enjoy.
I will mainly be wrapping presents later

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 14-Dec-12 19:57:03

Tree going up tonight. <sigh>

The annual MrBIWI argument. Tree stump won't fit base and requires the Getting Out Of The Saw.

It's not tall enough.

Which means there are too many lights.

Will any of you step up as a character witness when I'm being cross-examined about my motives for murder?

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 14-Dec-12 19:57:39

Lights are on the tree, but he has failed at the first pass and is having to do them again.

I have retired to a safe distance.

caramelwaffle Fri 14-Dec-12 19:58:28

What. Sir? No, Sir. She was with me, Sir! <not guilty> grin

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 14-Dec-12 20:00:25


WineGless Fri 14-Dec-12 21:04:39

You'll get off with that no problemo -! Christmas? Tree decorations?
Dead cert ;)

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 14-Dec-12 21:29:23

All is now well in the BIWI house. MrBIWI's OCD tendencies are calmed, and the tree is, indeed, beautiful AND EXACTLY THE RIGHT HEIGHT AND SHAPE! <glares>

ViperInTheManger Fri 14-Dec-12 21:33:42

DH nearly had a nervous breakdown doing our tree lights as one set worked perfectly until all on the tree then......nothing.....take them off and they work.... and so on grin

BIWI I think I've found your lbs, I had a bad run of cheaty days and Xmas do's and have just gained 3lb. Why is it so easy to gain?! Out for dinner again tomorrow so will just have to be good next week.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 14-Dec-12 21:40:51

Sorry, Viper. I didn't mean to send them your way!

Try the intermittent fasting - which really means just skipping breakfast. It's surprisingly easy to do, I have found. In fact, I think I might just not eat breakfast routinely now.

ViperInTheManger Fri 14-Dec-12 21:51:54

I think I might try that BIWI. I've made a huge pot of creamy vegetable soup so will try to fill up on that too.

WineGless Fri 14-Dec-12 22:19:30

Viper how did you make your creamy vegetable soup? Every soup I used to make is quite carby ie potato carrot or parsnip. Need some soup inspiration

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 14-Dec-12 23:46:48

Celeriac makes fabulously creamy soup.

Lovely recipe i read recently, was onion, fried in butter, add chopped celeriac and fry gently, then add stock. Cook until celeriac is tender, then crumble in blue cheese. Can't remember if there was cream involved,, but i don't think so.

ViperInTheManger Sat 15-Dec-12 00:05:10

I did leeks, courgettes and celeriac softened in butter, boiled in chicken stock then blitzed and cream added. I hate cheese (bleeurgh!) and the only thing I hate more than cheese is blue cheese! Can't understand why anyone would eat food that stinks and has mould growing on it! grin

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 15-Dec-12 00:18:39

When I was 17 I went on a school trip to France. As part of the trip, we visited the caves where Roquefort is made. A whole factory built into the caves.

The smell is absolutely over-powering! I remember very clearly realising that I was either going to chuck up, or decide that I would have to like blue cheese. I chose the latter.

halfthesize Sat 15-Dec-12 08:42:39

blush ok hung over is an understatement!! I actually think I am going to die, why oh why did I drink so much wine????confused on the up side I was very good with food.... steak and Saladsmile

BIWI just spotted your post re weight grin grin. You must feel great. Well done!

I am stuck at 9.6 but as this is the lightest I've been for soooo many years I'm not complaining too much.

newstart sorry to see things not so great for you. Lets hope the New Year brings in a change. flowers for you.

Dosh sounds like the job hunt is going great guns! Cheers!

Waves to everyone. This thread takes some keeping up with.

Tree up, house decorated and presents nearly all wrapped. Struggling with writing cards though, just can't motivate myself with that job. Oh, and so glad I'm not the only one with a DH with OCD tendencies. Grrrr. I have been known to shriek sing that fab line from the Pogues. "Happy Christmas your your arse I pray God it's our last" to him whilst sorting the tree out. grin

sybilfaulty Sat 15-Dec-12 09:46:39

BIWI, well done on the weight. Great news.

Singing, that is very funny. That bit of the song always makes me sad, because poor Kirsty died in the speedboat accident. It's a great song and always makes me feel festive though.

Had people over and had Spanish chicken, followed by pavlova. I'd forgotten how nice pavlova is. Yummers. I may also have had a couple of champagne cocktails and some wine. There is a carol concert this morning which my daughter is singing in and there will be mulled wine and mince pies. It's just one round of eating after another.

Have a good Saturday everyone smile

BIWI - woohoo on the weight loss!

Viper - I am with you, with the blue cheese, bleugh!

WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Sat 15-Dec-12 15:49:18

Well done biwi!

I am watching dp play rugby. It is bloody cold, an so can't tell which player he is as they're all so muddy!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 15-Dec-12 16:06:36

I have had my first request for a January bootcamp! grin

Doshusallie Sat 15-Dec-12 16:36:02

Half I am also hungover. Shocker, I hear you say. Drank far too much fizzy wine with the girls. Was reasonably good with food (chicken in a tarragon sauce with a salad, didn't eat the baked potato or crisps, and gave my pudding to the dog when no one was looking) but did drink baileys and ate one baileys truffle chocolate as they were just too tempting. blush. Great fun to see my friends though.

Today we have achieved purchasing a tree (£35!!!! Who knew?? Have had a plastic one for years!!!) and have decorated the house. Christmas has landed chez dosh. Am very tired and won't be late to bed.....

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Sat 15-Dec-12 16:51:54

Just dashing into the thread to say I did a sneaky extra weigh-in this morning before my night out tonight, as today was my original "end point" < when I thought this was another "diet" rather than a lifelong WOE as I see it now!>

149.5 lbs!!!!!

So I've made my original target of getting 20lbs off from start point of 170lbs, plus an extra cheeky half <every half counts>

I am so so pleased with this, and just want to say a HUGE thank you thanks to BIWI and everyone else for all the moral support and encouragement.

Right, off to beautify and then bring on the wine !!! First in 3 months, I will probably be under the table by 9pm!!

Drunken Xmas smoochies to you all x x x

halfthesize Sat 15-Dec-12 16:52:55

Sounds like a fab night Dosh grin

I have just finished icing our Christmas cake, now DH & DS's are making mince piessmile

captainmummy Sat 15-Dec-12 16:54:31

How bad is Baileys? Is it not just cream and whisky and coffee? I bought (on the recommendation of someone on here) the Irish Cream from Lidls, as being 'better than Baileys' - and I can tell you, IT IS!

Only had 2 small glasses so far

halfthesize Sat 15-Dec-12 16:55:34

Have fun tonight Toomuch and well done on the weight loss, bet you are feeling greatsmile

Dosh I am already in my PJ'swink

janglebells2013 Sat 15-Dec-12 17:04:04

having a rough weekend here. hopefully will join you all in the festive spirit soon! dh horrible to me last night and eating has gone to pieces today. feel rubbish, look like rubbish etcetc. bring on monday.

maybe theres a way to make low carb baileys? any way captain, its a once a year treat so why not - enjoy your few glasses smile

halfthesize Sat 15-Dec-12 17:20:56

sad sorry to hear you are having a rubbish weekend jangle treat yourself to a nice bath and a glass of something x

janglebells2013 Sat 15-Dec-12 18:13:31

thanks so much. theres a bottle of wine left in the fridge from 5 months ago when dh and me separated... he drinks i don't... wonder if it would be off? does wine go off? lol

2 friends phoned me today and made me feel better. i feel so lucky and blessed to have good friends. dd comes home in an hour or so so need to get myself together in calm collected mother mode!

janglebells2013 Sat 15-Dec-12 18:14:15

ps i do clean the fridge....the odd time, honest! i think i was leaving the wine for emergencies!

I reckon that wine will be disgusting! Sorry to hear you are having a rubbish weekend.

vnmum Sat 15-Dec-12 19:31:13

Evening all. After being off the wagon spectacularly for the past few weeks, and gaining alot, today i started a fresh. I am not going to give in over xmas either. I have realised that i don't really like mince pies that much and am not bothered about alot of stuff so hopefully i won't find it too hard.
A few weeks off plan has made me realise how quickly the weight can return when you go back to carbs and also that i feel much better without them. I feel like my body is saying "i've had enough carbs now, please start feeding me properly".

Well done BIWI on your whoosh, and to any other whooshers and losers.

If you remember me mentioning last week about my PIL who visited and i sent away with the Atkins book, well i have an update.
They are very happy. They started this woe on monday, although did admit to not cutting carbs completely and still having a bit of bread, which i will address on monday. FIL has already lost 9lb in 6 days and MIL hasn't weighed yet but feels like she has lost. They are so happy to have finally found something that works and tastes nice to boot. So i think thats another 2 converts smile.

FIL gets weighed at a weekly fitness session i think so it will be interesting to see what they say when he has lost so much and their response to low carb.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 15-Dec-12 19:39:35

Dr Charles Clark allows a slice of wholemeal bread on his low carb plan, so if it's easier for them to do it, then it should be OK - as long as they're not tucking into potatoes and pasta/rice elsewhere!

Welcome back to low carbing. Hopefully you'll shed any weight gained pretty quickly.

ViperInTheManger Sat 15-Dec-12 20:38:38

I am going to have to pull myself together. I had arranged to go out with a friend tonight but she has just vanished off the face of the earth today and not replied to my text or calls so we are unexpectedly at a loose end with no tea planned and I have just eaten a chinese takeaway blush I don't know whether to be concerned or annoyed (about her that is, not about the takeaway although I am irritated that I ate it!)

I will be good from tomorrow!

halfthesize Sat 15-Dec-12 21:07:35

grin glad to hear you have such good friends jangle I would give the wine a missconfused if it is a half empty bottle!

halfthesize Sat 15-Dec-12 21:58:11

chinese sounds yummy viper very strange re your friend, hmm hmm is it out of character?

Doshusallie Sat 15-Dec-12 22:14:07

I have had an Indian takeaway - had a spicy fish starter, cauliflower Bhaji, mushroom Bhaji and spinach with cheese. Fish thing tasted suspiciously like it had been fried in batter but I couldn't really tell as it was covered in spices. So not brilliant. It not tragic.

Other food today has been three poached eggs for brekkie, cheese, celery for lunch, low carb sausage and all the kids leftover mashed swede. Not bad for a hangover day.

Vnmum great news about your parents - my friend, whilst losing 10 pounds in two weeks has not been able to stick to it, mainly because she gains it all back so quickly when she falls off the wagon.

Viper - did you hear from your friend at all in the end. Hope all is well and ou can just be annoyed.

I am loitering at 16 stones which for now is fine based on what I have been eating. I did cook for DH for his birthday lamb shank, celeriac mash and green beans which was ok. If I can stay where I am until Jan and new bootcamp that'll do me I think!

janglebells2013 Sun 16-Dec-12 08:43:17

half the wine is full unopened but still should be chucked probably!

dosh sounds like the indian could have been a lot worse. i hope you enjoyed it, and you did great the rest of the day smile

i did ok the rest of the day after i messed up yesterday. unfortunately dh's parents came to drop dd off last night and really had a go at me and started a huge row so there was that, and then dd was up half the night, so i am hoping this won't affect my eating today and just really hoping for a better week next week.

EwanHoHoHozami Sun 16-Dec-12 08:55:42

toomuch I'm jumping up and down with you - I've just broken the 150 barrier too! Well done us grin

I hadn't weighed for nearly a fortnight after the Drunken Pizza Debacle™ as I'd been feeling a bit 'padded'. A few days of strictness have paid off!

jangle how are you feeling today?

Well done all those spreading the LC word. I've got a good pal having a miserable time on SW but thinks what I'm doing is 'faddy' and won't give it a go the stubborn mare I swear, if she mentions Syns once more... angry

EwanHoHoHozami Sun 16-Dec-12 08:57:20

oops jan x-post! What arses. Be strong today. Can you eat your very favourite LC thing?

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sun 16-Dec-12 09:03:49

Oh jan - that's awful angry Sounds like you need to try and distance yourself as much as you possibly can from your 'D'H and his family.

Well done toomuch and Ewan - go you! thanks

I'm thinking that I'll get the next Bootcamp started on Monday 7 Jan, if that suits everyone? Gives us all time to re-group after Christmas. Again, it will be for 10 weeks. That will take us up to 17 March.

What do you reckon?

Is there anything that you would suggest we do differently, or do you think it has worked well this time around?

janglebells2013 Sun 16-Dec-12 09:10:29

thanks for support. im trying to distance myself. i have to remember im not responsible for all their problems no matter how much they make me think that.

quote of the night from MIL 'well did you not know what he was like before you married him? did you both not know you would be incompatible?' doh.

i got some nice local made greek yog yesterday so that will be my fave thing for today.

wouldn't it be lovely if we could all meet up for a LC Christmas dinner together smile

janglebells2013 Sun 16-Dec-12 09:11:20

i think maybe a couple of meal plans would be a good idea on a future bootcamp

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Sun 16-Dec-12 10:01:11

Ok whose dumb stupid feckin idea was it to have vodka shots after buckets of wine????? Oh that will be me, then. blush

Never mind cropping a photo for on here, could someone please cut my head off. For real. It would be a mercy killing.

Thank fuck I drank 3 cups of water with my ibuprofen when I stottered in the house at 130am last night and then 2 more cups when I got up to pee sometime in the wee hours. Still feel like seven shades of shite tho. Fuck.

Jacaqueen Sun 16-Dec-12 10:22:07

Morning everyone. Little bit of a hangover here as I was 'celebrating' last night. My period is over a week late and all week I have been working myself up to a mild panic that I was pregnant. Finally did a test yesterday and it was negative.

I am 43, DH is 46, DS1 is nearly 15 and DS2 is 7. So it would have been a shock for us all I think. I have told DH he is not getting near me until he has had a vasectomy.

I know there are a couple of people on here TTC and I dont want to seem insensitive, but I am so relieved.

Weight is up a few pounds but I am fairly happy with myself in general. Just going to keep at it and hopefully I will maintain this weight over the next few weeks.

mirai Sun 16-Dec-12 10:27:02

Hi BIWI, could I sigh up for the 7 jan boot camp? I have been following this thread from afar and reading a few books, l'd like to follow Briffa's book as it makes a lot of sense to me. I don't want to be watching my food over Christmas so 7 jan (first day back at work) would be a great start for me smile

WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Sun 16-Dec-12 10:29:21

God toomuch I'll join you with the hangover... I have a horrible feeling jaeger bombs were involved Last night (student flashback)

Had to swap meals with dp as he accidentally ordered something that contained things he's allergic to, and I managed to eat round the carby stuff but it wasn't as good as the lovely steak I had ordered for myself!

WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Sun 16-Dec-12 10:35:06

Hello mirai!

Jan 7 would be perfect for me as it's first day back at work so back into routine

Sorry jangle that you're having such a rough time. You know we're all here though

Vnmum that's fab about your inlaws. Dp's parents would really benefit but tentative discussions have had them not countenancing the idea of increasing fat. I know dp's dad binge eats in secret though sad (he doesn't know I know)

Doshusallie Sun 16-Dec-12 10:53:14

Morning all. Weigh in this morning showed 9 2 so that's great.

Dh has taken boys to play football. House is clean and tidy, Christmas carols on the stereo, log fire scene on sky on demand burning away on the telly (have you seen this? It is genius!!! grin and I am sitting at the kitchen table surrounded by good food magazine, radio times and iPad, planning THE SHOP and what treats to bake. Bliss. Off to see the hobbit later.

I'm glad it isn't just me that forgets I'm not 18 and ends up with jaegar bombs and all sorts of other shots on the occaisionaly night out!!!!

Dosh - sounds divine btw!

Jan - sorry about your night, sounds like you are having a bit of a rubbish time. Well done for staying strong, I am in awe of you doing it alone so well for your DD thanks

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sun 16-Dec-12 11:23:49

Well no hangover here, and I've been to the gym with my trainer this morning [smug git emoticon]

Welcome mirai! Although I think Briffa is fab, just be aware that (from what others have reported here) his plan seems to suit maintenance rather better than weight loss. Depending on how much you have to lose, you may find that you need to be a little bit stricter than that, at least at the outset. Which is why Bootcamp is fab, of course grin

Rest of today - food shopping (lovely. not) and writing the rest of my Christmas cards, to get in the post tomorrow. Out for dinner tonight, as ever. Not quite sure where we will be going yet.

Comiserations to those with hangovers, congrats to those who lost weight and a general wave to everyone else because I've been terrible for keeping up with the threads and I bet I've missed loads.

Puppy has settled in nicely and is being cute and adorable. Just waiting for the itchy teeth stage to pass now, she's gnawing on everything. My dogs are raw fed so she's a low carber too. grin

Now I'm sleeping properly again I'm eating better and have dropped the weight I put back on and two extra pounds... so I'm under 11 stone in time for Christmas. So happy, I might get into that dress after all.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sun 16-Dec-12 11:33:55

Brilliant, whippoorwhill! What a lovely Christmas present

janglebells2013 Sun 16-Dec-12 12:41:22

aw how cute little pup!! i remember well the crazy puppy days, everyone will be cooing over him!

Biwi impressed with you being up and to the gym this morning!

Mrs thank you - honestly i would never have been able to do it if i had not had a lot of support God interfering and esp from those on mumsnet smile

mirai Sun 16-Dec-12 13:17:46

Well, "only" a stone, but I am seriously addicted to sugar.. biscuits, cakes, chocolate... All sorts of rubbish. So I think cutting out the sugar, along with the bread and pasta, should show some impressive results. So I'll see! smile

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sun 16-Dec-12 14:06:06

'Only a stone', IME, is the hardest stone to lose!

mirai Sun 16-Dec-12 15:29:27

I absolutely agree!! grin

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sun 16-Dec-12 17:35:02

Well, I went shopping today, as my jeans that I bought in April are now hanging off me in a most unattractive way.

I found a nice black pair of jeans, tried on a size 10, and then had to say the most wonderful words I never thought I would ever hear myself saying:

"Do you have these in a size 8?"


(And they fitted, and I have bought them!)

RadioSilence Sun 16-Dec-12 18:37:01

I would love to sign up for boot camp on 7th Jan too please. I am one of the original boot campers but fell off the thread because I had reached my goal weight. 5 months later I am still maintaining at my goal weight , which is unheard of for me. I have been in a cycle of losing weight and gaining it all back as soon as my "diet" is over , but now this is just the way I eat and I love it.

A bit of a push after Christmas and New Year sounds like just what I need so count me in!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sun 16-Dec-12 18:39:17

That's brilliant to hear that you are still maintaining, Radio. As I'm not far away from my target now I'm beginning to think about maintenance, and it's a very odd feeling!

You are very welcome to join in again - you can help support us all by telling us your maintenance strategies.

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Sun 16-Dec-12 18:42:35

congrats on the jeans, BIWI, that is awesome!!

right, I think I have managed to put up a picture on my profile of me in my little black/red dress from last night. if anyone is around, please could you click and see if it has worked? thanks muchly.

Over to you winegless !!! grin

RadioSilence Sun 16-Dec-12 18:45:30

It will consist mainly of not eating my body weight in Quality Street over Christmas I think smile

I am largely wheat free now and it has made a huge difference so I will be sticking with that. I am going to make a wheat free Christmas cake this year so will let you all know how it turns out.

MsRinky Sun 16-Dec-12 19:40:41

Too much, you are gorgeous!

Doshusallie Sun 16-Dec-12 20:06:55

Too much you look gorgeous what a lovely picture, I love your dress!! Wit woo!!! grin

Hobbit was good, slow to start but then ace. Just black coffee [halo], no sweets or popcorn....wasn't even tempted.

Lunch was cheese, cucumber, mushrooms and celery.

Tea was a 3 egg ham and mushroom omelette with leeks and courgettes and coleslaw. Am stuffed.

Yum, look what I found today in M&S! here.

Well done dosh - our school choir sang on the soundtrack!

Too much you look lovely!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sun 16-Dec-12 21:08:33

Wow! toomuch - you look fabulous!

Doshusallie Sun 16-Dec-12 22:02:53

I do have to confess though that my dses food today has been little more than shocking....toast with choc spread for brekkie, Cornish Pastie for lunch, popcorn and sweets at cinema and an apple/banana. blush

WineGless Sun 16-Dec-12 22:07:12

Shuffles in clutching head with bottle of water being sipped slowly.

Foodwise yesterday was a disaster
Alcohol wise - I had two glasses of fizz and then stuck to vodka but they had a vodka luge with flavoured vodka and it went VERY messy.
However we had a FAB night and danced until 2am. I had lots of lovely compliments from people who haven't seen for a while and felt amazing in my dress. The photos on FB of later on though I dont look quite so amazing and have woken up with bruises - one about a foot wide on my knee!
I have been soooo poorly today - never again, I swear.

Toomuch - you look absolutely gorgeous! Well done you.
I have to say I have cocked up on the photo front and don't think I can post what I have as I only have close up photos sad
I will text the couple that I have. I could kick myself as won't look that good again.

Catching up with thread very slowly as it is hurting my eyes. I have just had to finish the photo calendars I have been doing for parents/grandparents/sisters very quickly as its the last day today to ensure they arrive for Xmas.

ViperInTheManger Sun 16-Dec-12 22:18:35

BIWI Size 8? Am torn between OMG shock and well done! Brilliant result! I'm very jealous.

toomuch You look stunning! I love the dress too.

Dosh Sadly I have had a day like that too. I need to get back to being strict but am struggling as things keep tripping me up.

MrsHP I saw those in M&S last week, not tried them yet though.

Still no word from my friend re last night. DH went round to the house to check on her and there was no answer, although the lights were on upstairs and he thought someone was in (he didn't keep ringing in case her DD age 15 was alone and got scared). Friend can be a bit unreliable but this is unusual even for her.

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Sun 16-Dec-12 22:50:25

Thank you all for the lovely remarks blush I had a great night.

winegless not sure I can let you off with that wink we had a deal, you shirker wink you will just have to have another dress-up night!

The only advantage to being so hideously hungover is that I have definitely drunk my 3 litres plus water today and some Irn Bru but I will draw a veil over the food this weekend and start afresh tomorrow. Next night out is Wednesday but am hoping to be able to have steak for the meal.

mrshp those crackling straws look yum, I may have to see if my little local MnS has them.

Viper that is a little odd. Do you know anyone else that knows her and could try as well? Or maybe put note through door, just asking her to text if ok or something?

halfthesize Mon 17-Dec-12 00:00:52

grin evening all
for all those with hangovers I hope you r feeling a little better.
I will look at pics tomorrow as my silly phone app won't let meangry
Jan if wine unopened I'd would have had itwink though well done for not and being so strong. hope things improve soon x
BIWI wohoo to the size 8grin

Won't join spreadsheet as not following it exactly but if it is ok with everyone will dip in and out

but am still very much LC and ditching wheat and gluten and cutting carbs down made a real differance . I'm 100lb down Fron where I started in June !! . Am now in a size 14 lightest been in 16 years but not done yet .dont think I'll ever be a size 8 even at 9 stone i still need 12 to allow for hips ( loose ib waiste )

but that's ok I'm aiming for a 12 and at 5.7 if I was to stand that's fine by me

halfthesize Mon 17-Dec-12 08:04:38

Toomuch you look absolutely amazing grin

viper hope you get hold of your friend and all is ok. Im off to finish last few bits of Christmas shopping todaysmile

After my disastrous weekend of too much wine and vodkablush then hangover from hell, I did not dare get on scales today, but will weigh in tomorrow..

WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Mon 17-Dec-12 08:08:34

ooh those crackling straws look great, will have to hunt them out

toomuch you look absolutely fab

size 8 is awesome biwi. i was a 6-8 10 years ago but i had to work quite hard to maintain it bearing in mind i was 17 at the time! i don't think i will ever be that size again, but at 5'7 i agree THC 10-12 is a healthy size.

dp said to me the other day 'i don't think you could ever really have a small bottom'. er, thanks for that! he was trying to be both appreciative and truthful, but ended up being too honest for his own good!

captainmummy Mon 17-Dec-12 08:24:02

Jangles - if the wine is unopenedit'll be fine - for years !

Toomuch - you look lovely!

I saw a friend yesterday while delivering xmas cards; she was with WW for years. She still looks good, lost a lot of weight and is obv maintaining, but I told her about the LC diet, she was shock at the amount of butter and cream and cheese etc. So we might have a convert!

EwanHoHoHozami Mon 17-Dec-12 08:46:00

MrsHP those crackling straws look lurvely but at £8 I'd want the rest of the pig too!

BIWI size 8 is bloody marvellous thanks that must have felt sooo good to say.

100lb down - THCatapult that is tremendous. I hear what you're saying about targets too. I'm 5'8" and have hip bones like a cart horse grin

Soooo my non-sleeping 3yo slept through last night for the first time EVER <wild applause> If it hadn't coincided with my 8mo's teething sleep regression I might have the energy to celebrate. Typical, eh?

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Mon 17-Dec-12 09:03:47

THC - 100lbs is a fantastic achievement!

Re the size 8, I have to say that it does reflect vanity sizing on behalf of retailers. Whilst it's very lovely to be able to say those words, I know full well that when I was a teenager/young adult, and weighed around 8 stone, I was wearing clothes that were size 10-12. In fact, clothes for adult women started at size 10 in the shops. You just didn't see sizes 4/6/8 at all.

That said, I'm still very pleased with me grin

I have decided that I'm going to aim for 8 stone 11 as my next target (and probably my final target). That was how much I weighed when I got married, 22 years ago. Perhaps I'll get my wedding dress out and model that when I get there!

Ewan Medised is your friend

vnmum Mon 17-Dec-12 09:07:24

toomuch you look fab
BIWI fab news on the jeans. It's such a good feeling to say those words.

I started back on strict bootcamp on sat morning. Had weighed in on friday morning and since then I have lost 2 lbs, so very pleased. I can see a difference and feel a difference in my clothes so alot of it must have been bloat. A strict week for me this week to see if i can get back to my pre fall off wagon weight before xmas day.

WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Mon 17-Dec-12 09:17:11

oh i missed the 100lb THC, that is brilliant!

WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Mon 17-Dec-12 09:23:36

after this weekend's follies i am relieved to have maintained, but my gut is having a proper whinge about the alcohol!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Mon 17-Dec-12 09:34:12

W went out for dinner last night, and I ordered roast pork, which came with roast potatoes and a Yorkshire pudding. I ate the pudding, one potato, one parsnip and one carrot and left the rest of the carrots, parsnips and potatoes. I am experimenting with gradually adding more carbs into my diet. But it seems to be resulting in the return of night time hot flushes, and I had a really bad night's sleep.

So looks like my body is keeping me on track of its own accord!

BIWI grin that must have felt good to say! Excellent. Will def be joining in the Jan Bootcamp to try and shift these last few pounds. Just a thought though on maintenance - what do those of us who find even a few carbs are having a bad effect on us do? confused

Half just GORGEOUS!

THC 100lbs! That is great.

Hello, to everyone. smile

Just waiting for window cleaners then off to do last few bits and pieces for Christmas, marzipan the cake and drown the puddings in yet more alchohol. I LOVE Christmas. grin

mirai Mon 17-Dec-12 09:58:09

You are all so inspiring and I can't wait til January! grin

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Mon 17-Dec-12 10:15:21

Singing - is it all carbs or specific ones, such as wheat? I think the key would be to try and identify specifically what is making you feel bad and then avoid those. If it's just the amount of carbs, then it's your body trying to tell you something!

Doshusallie Mon 17-Dec-12 10:16:39

Morning all losers and lushes!!!! Tut tut at the hangovers, wouldn't catch me doing it, etc etc grin

Sitting outside ridiculously early for yet another interview.

Greek yog for breakfast with a dessert of "argument with dh about how to boil a egg".... Don't ask.

Still 9 2 this morning so very happy with that. Be great to get back to 9 by Friday to give me a few pounds to play with during the festivities.

Thc - 100 pounds is such a milestone achievement, bloody well done girlfriend!!!!!

caramelwaffle Mon 17-Dec-12 10:21:34

Hello everyone.

Great picture toomuch

"May I have that in a size 8?" love that Biwi

100lb - excellent Thc

Welcome radio and mirai

After a few strict days I ate a big mac, fries, a hot dog and half a bucket of pick and mix sweets; my body is Protesting! today. It was a long film.

I'm definitely in for the Jan 7th Bootcamp.

caramelwaffle Mon 17-Dec-12 10:23:39

Good luck for the interview Dosh!

caramelwaffle Mon 17-Dec-12 10:30:38

I'm typing on phone so cannot update spreadsheet <shakes fist at internet provider - get it fixed, now!>

Could someone please add 155.8lb to my space. Thank you.

janglebells2013 Mon 17-Dec-12 10:30:39

you look amazing too much and lovely dress too smile

Biwi that is fantastic getting to a size 8 - well done im sure you are feeling fantastic especially at the christmas party season - good on you! just be careful not to go too far now!

Dosh good luck.

to all those who are struggling - we will get there at some point, and some improvement is not to be minimised as its every little improvement that will get us where we want to be at the end. slow and steady wins the race eh? so keep thinking positive, its not every battle we have to win, its the whole war, which we win when we just keep going and counting every smallest victory.

today im making a few stressful phonecalls to try to sort out things between dh and i and re his behaviour toward me. im also gutted as ive made the decision that its better that dd goes to him a few hours on christmas day, and then to me. this is going to kill me, but it has to be done as we can't do it together, and its only fair. i don't know how im gonna cope without seeing my dd christmas morning, but i need to suck it up as i know a lot of people have to go through this every year, so ill be busy and go to mums church and sing carols smile

caramelwaffle Mon 17-Dec-12 10:36:12

Sorry to hear about the troubles with your 'D'h jangle

Do look after yourself ((fullfat hug))

Can't promise it will be easy, but it will get easier.

halfthesize Mon 17-Dec-12 12:58:36

Ewan wohoo re sleeping throughsmile

Dosh Good luck, fingers crossed for you.

jan I really hope you manage to sort things out. I used to have to let my DD1 see her dad on Christmas day after we separated, I always did it so he had her for tea and a sleep over on the day itself.. He was not a nice person, but only fair as his parents etc wanted to see her. It does get easier I promisewink

caramel updated spreadsheet for you.

THC 100lbs WOW that is amazing, well done you, bet you feel greatgrin

Glad Im not the only one who drowns my Christmas puddings & cake with booze singing and BIWI I am a def for bootcamp!!

Doshusallie Mon 17-Dec-12 13:24:26

Went really well - until we both realised they were offering nearly 20k less than my current base salary......the recruitment agency are going to have two unhappy clients on the phone......

Salad with cucumber, boiled eggs, ham, olives and coleslaw for lunch.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Mon 17-Dec-12 13:43:01

That's a shame, Doshusallie

caramelwaffle Mon 17-Dec-12 14:48:24

Thank you half

Good luck with the next one Dosh

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Mon 17-Dec-12 16:26:19

THC wow 100lbs off?! Oh my goodness, you've lost a small person already! That's an amazing achievement, very well done.

Welcome radio and mirai hope you enjoy these threads!!

jangle so sorry it's a hard time for you, but you sound like such a caring mum, putting your dd first, which is great and she will appreciate it as she grows and figures out her dad for herself

Thanks again for the compliments on my photo. Ds said "mummy you look beyootiful" (well trained), DH said "not bad ... for your age" (untrainable).

Feeling a little better today but still quite tired as the dog woke me up at 3 am having some weird kind of coughing fit. He's fine, but I didn't sleep well after that. Had bacon for breakfast, then a potluck lunch with friends and I had salmon canapés, some falafel and carrots with hummus (not ideal but it could have been much worse!) and I think it's more salmon for tea.

JessicaWakefield Mon 17-Dec-12 18:07:00

Go Ewan's DS! Fantastic news on the sleep through. I remember from your post on the sleep board what a difficult time you'd had with his sleep. Keeping fingers crossed for you all tonight.

BIWI how cool is that!? Our leader is a size 8!

Doshu sorry about the interview. What a pain. On the bright side good that it was going so well - sounds like you're becoming a pro at interviews!

DH out last night and instead of having cereal or toast as I would have done in the olden days when it was just me I had swede roasted in goose fat, crispy bacon with the dripping poured into baby salad leaves and baked Camembert. Wonder how many syns that would be Ewan!

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Mon 17-Dec-12 19:17:17

Well DH really didn't fancy salmon so just had scrambled eggs for tea, made with butter and cream. Perfectly fine, but I've just read about Jessica's tea and am now envy grin I think I will do braised cabbage again tomorrow, it's always lush.

captainmummy Mon 17-Dec-12 19:20:23

Tried celeriac fondant today - have to say I'm not a fan of celeriac generally. i've tried it mashed, chipped, in soups, roasted and now fondant, - which is definitely my favourite. I find it generally too sweet and cloying somehow, but this is much more savoury and melty.
Had with some pork off the joint I bought as a ham, cooked in cream. V stuffed now!

Doshusallie Mon 17-Dec-12 19:52:29

All your teas sound amaze balls. Forgot to take out my salmon from the freezer this morning so no idea what to have for my tea..... confused

Yes, am becoming a professional interviewee!!!! grin

ViperInTheManger Mon 17-Dec-12 20:37:07

Dosh What a pain about the interview, still the right one will be along soon.

THC 100lbs! Wow! You are now my role model as I have about that to lose. Have you been really strict this whole time? Tell me any secrets please.

Went to Costco today and stocked up the freezer with the turkey and tons of meat, they must think I run a small hotel!

On the plus side I have been quite good today. I noticed that my consumption of Diet Coke/Pepsi was creeping back and it was becoming more difficult to eat sensibly so I am trying to get back to basics and cut out all the naughties again. Have a challenge tomorrow, it is the last day our team are all in before Xmas and they always ask me to bring a cake in (recipe I got abroad where cake is soaked in brandy syrup shock) Will have to think of a cunning way to feed everybody else and abstain myself!


i had two days of in September at a medical conference and I tried to fall of start of this month and failed as I gave myself such Bad gut ache eating gluten that made self ill . I started of Low carb and low calorie but increase the food but cut the carbs right down

And yes I am very very strict no alchol /choclate /sweet stuff . Fizzy is s very rare tree and slight twist to the official boot camp as I eat very very few carbs and hardly any dairy . Meet is my best friend and I work out 45 mins to a hour daily often getting up at 4am And you can do it .

But we're of to WDW in Seotember and thought asking for a seatbelt extension or even worse them bringing automatic was motivation . I want to loose at least 40lb more by then as font want flight attendants arguing who looses has to drag me up aisle on one of those silly airline wheelchair seats to my seat on a plane which is a one bum cheek only even at size 8

And being a full time wheelchair user I had do for my health as my arms work do hard with all transferring and pushing can not afford to knacker then

Oh and yes I Di feel so much better for loosing it but not as good as feel when the rest goes . I will be super strict now and yes that includes over xmas May take couple days of st Easter when we're away

ViperInTheManger Tue 18-Dec-12 00:07:43

Well done, you have done amazingly. I wish I was more disciplined. As you said, you really have a big incentive there but that loss is a fantastic achievement.

I will think of you tomorrow when I am trying to motivate myself not to eat the cake!

sybilfaulty Tue 18-Dec-12 06:30:47

Hi everyone

Some amazing stories on the thread. THC, you are wonderful and an inspiration. Wow. Well done. The thread has really kept me going over the last 6 months and I am looking forward to boot amp proper after Christmas.

A confession- I am not doing too well. Have rampant tonsillitis and temp between 39 and 40 and cannot swallow. Hard yo drink anything pry alone loads of water. Also had a few smarties to cheer myself up. Have now hot antibiotics so hoping for swift recovery. Am missing my salads. Looking forward to getting better.

Hope everyone has a great day

sybilfaulty Tue 18-Dec-12 06:31:26

Sorry for typos. Am on phone.

Get well soon sybs - tonsillitis is miserable.

caramelwaffle Tue 18-Dec-12 06:53:27

Get well soon sybil

WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Tue 18-Dec-12 08:08:37

aw syb you poor thing, i had it in sept/oct and it was miserable. look after yourself and hope you're recovered for christmas

WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Tue 18-Dec-12 08:10:20

viper i've noticed my diet coke consumption has gone up recently - i suspect it's coincided with the increased alcohol intake with christmas parties etc, as i don't sleep so well when i've been drinking and the diet coke helps with the <ahem> fuzzy head in the morning

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Tue 18-Dec-12 08:11:26

Oh syb sad so sorry to hear you are so poorly. Hope you're recovered in time for Christmas - let's hope those antibiotics work their magic as soon as possible.
Don't beat yourself up about what you are/aren't eating - just focus on taking care of yourself and getting well


BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Tue 18-Dec-12 08:13:09


My goodness, my big stick is twitching!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Tue 18-Dec-12 08:14:01

With apologies for appalling grammar ... blush

MsRinky Tue 18-Dec-12 09:14:49

I am still on the straight and narrow. God, Mr Rinky's work Christmas do was a tedious affair sober I can tell you. Volunteered to drive to ensure my virtue.

I now only have 0.9lbs to lose to hit my 50lb interim target, and I am going to get there by Saturday morning. And then I drive up to Yorkshire and all bets are off until January 2nd.

Jacaqueen Tue 18-Dec-12 10:04:07

Size 8? How fantastic is that. BIWI I want to be just like you when I grow up. I will join a gym, I will get a trainer, I will wear size 8 black jeans.

THC you are such an inspiration. Losing 100 lbs is such an achievement, but doing that as a wheel chair user just blows me away and spurs me on to get out there and get exercising.

I am doing ok. Scales are refusing to budge and still no sign of my period but I am resisting the temptation to start on the Christmas treats. Not doing anything specific until Sunday so I would love to get a few pounds off by then if possible.

DS2 is off school and on antibiotics with a really bad chest infection. I was panicking yesterday because I still had gifts to buy, nothing wrapped, house a tip etc etc. Then I heard a programme talking about those terrible shootings and I quickly changed my tune. High maintenance sister can get a gift token, who cares if presents are not beautifully wrapped with organza bows and as long as the house doesn't pose a health risk it will be fine.

We spent the day snuggled up by the fire watching Christmas films and reading A Christmas Carol and it was just lovely. Plan on doing much the same today. Maybe do a little bit of craft stuff later if we feel like it. I am actually starting to feel rather Christmassy now.

EwanHoHoHozami Tue 18-Dec-12 10:07:07

I knew we'd see The Stick again before Christmas grin

Itwillendinsmiles Tue 18-Dec-12 10:12:03

Hello BIWI and all,

I attended my major 'LBD' event on Sunday. The day started really well with the scales showing 8st, 12 lbs, 8 oz! So just below my final target of 9 stone!

(I'm 5' 7" tall, reasonably toned arms, shoulders & legs but with minimal boobage so this weight looks good rather than gaunt.)

I wore a size 8 cerise coloured, Monsoon dress/jacket suit which fitted perfectly and the professionally taken photographs handed out at the end of the event show I looked fine! (DH thought so too!)

So an enormous thank you to BIWI and everybody who posts, regularly or occasionally, for the encouragement, support, practical advice, ideas, the spreadsheet of wonder, information, links, recipes and laughter.


janglebells2013 Tue 18-Dec-12 10:39:45

halfthesize... hope you don't mind me asking but does your dc go to your ex's as part of normal contact time? im sorry you have had to go through all this too. this is the first time dd is going to stay - on boxing night, and its cos her grandparents have asked, NOT her father. he has never asked for her overnight. and someone said its ok if i grant it as a favour or whatever, but really if she is going to be overnight for special occasions, she should be going at other times throughout the year too, just so she can get used to it.

im going to see a solicitor tomorrow, a girl from WA is coming with me for support. and my parents are meeting his parents this week for a meeting as the inlaws wanted to 'sort us out'! flip sake. sort themselves out more like!!

anyhow. sorry for taking up the thread with my stuff.

well done itwillendinmiles... you have done amazing! youve reached your target... congratulations. do you still eat strict bootcamp or is it maintenance? do you think this is around your natural weight? im sure you looked fab in that dress it sounds gorgeous!!

captainmummy Tue 18-Dec-12 10:43:43

Wow smiles that sounds fab! Love cerise, can't wear it myself, not the right colouring!

Jac - count our blessings! the thought of those poor dc, and their families now, is heart-rending.

All alone at work, so playing on MN! <must delete history before i go>

Doshusallie Tue 18-Dec-12 10:55:50

smiles that sounds lovely well done you.

jangles please do share we are happy to hear all about and support where we can. I bore you all with my job interviews FGS!!

Jac - that devastation in the US - I can't stop thinking about it. I went upstairs and sat with my DS2 (6) while he slept, stroking him and my heart just broke for those families. I can't watch the coverage of the funerals. I went to the church my mum used to take us to and lit 26 candles yesterday. Haven't done that, well, ever!

Even whilst being livid with my Dses (like this morning for example - Christmas mummy morphed into SHOUTING MUMMY) I count my blessings over and over.

Gym this morning - bit half hearted but i went. i am being extremely strict with food too Mrs Rinky, although I am drinking the odd gin.

have to do THE SHOP on my own this week (DH usually comes) and am scared of braving Sainsburys on Thursday or Friday - it's going to be carnage isn't it? And the responsibility of actually selecting the Turkey solo - well I feel quite faint at the thought of it (please remember I am married to Jamie Oliver/Michel Roux Junior/Gordon Ramsay/Heston Blumenthal all rolled into one)

Doshusallie Tue 18-Dec-12 10:56:51

can I just add that I do go shopping on my own, just not THE CHRISTMAS SHOP!!

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Tue 18-Dec-12 11:02:45

smiles wow sounds lovely. Can I persuade you to put a pic up? Your outfit sounds lush. And I am amazed at your weight at 5'7" only an inch less than me but I'm guessing one of my boobs probably weighs more than your leg, so I'll try not to worry <comes from a long line of well built wummin>

Yes totally agree about counting blessings. Have been having loads of cuddles with my 6 year old Ds, while crying inside for those poor innocents and their families who won't have any more time together.

jangle chat away. I love how this bootcamp started with us all nervously listing our menus and checking carb counts, and now 10 weeks later we are onto discussing jobs, kids, husbands, lives, inner thoughts. What a lovely bunch you all are.

Am away to walk the dog and hide from biwis stick.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Tue 18-Dec-12 11:19:21

Brilliant, Itwillendinsmiles - and how apt your name is! thanks

MsRinky - I am impressed. Going to someone else's work do and not drinking is massive!

Jan - we are all here to support you. Never worry about that. We all wish you well. And what the bloody hell are your in-laws doing meeting with your parents?! None of any of their business what is happening between you and your H!!!

I had a brutal session at the gym yesterday, working on upper body. Another one today focusing on legs/abs. I could barely get up the stairs when I got home, and my bedroom is two flights of stairs up! Back again tomorrow for more upper body work. Trainer has really ramped things up - exercises that I was doing routinely before - 15 reps plus 30 sec rest now increased to 50 with no rest!!

janglebells2013 Tue 18-Dec-12 12:35:54

smile you guys are brill.

dosh good luck with the christmas shop. amazing how you can get through presentations and scary interviews etc and be dreading the christmas just goes to show what a nightmare it actually is.... i remember last christmas being in M&S and 2 woman nearly came to blows over a turkey no joke. everyone was stressed out!!

Biwi ur putting me to shame with your workouts

halfthesize Tue 18-Dec-12 12:39:34

jan I have PM yousmile and have to agree with BIWI re the in laws meet up!!!

MsRinky well done.

smiles please add photosmile sounds like you had a fab time x

Just had 3 egg omelette for late brunch as had DS2 Nativity this morning, he was Joseph, so damn cutegrin
Now off to DS1 Christmas extravaganza at his schoolwink cant wait.

Then only 1 more day of school/pre school runs yipee!!

janglebells2013 Tue 18-Dec-12 12:48:45

yeah, the girl from WA said i have a right not to have my marriage discussed by family. my family said they were going to make it clear that they did not want to discuss details of our marriage, but they didn't want to refuse to see them. and anyway it will be like talking to a brick wall. i might tell my mum to have a few words with them like they had no right to come round and upset me on sat night!

i just had a pork steak for lunch! dh would be amazed if he knew what i was eating these days! ha.

aw thats so cute halfthesize Joseph, hope you get lots of cute festive pics

JessicaWakefield Tue 18-Dec-12 13:04:03

Jan am really feeling for you and DD and sending you both a Christmas hug. Unlike a few people I know who are going through separation or divorce your absolute priority seems to be the wellbeing of DD - you sound like a lovely mum and I wish you all the very best in what must be a difficult time thanks

halfthesize Tue 18-Dec-12 13:23:47

Lots of lovely pics jan

caramelwaffle Tue 18-Dec-12 14:55:06

Good god: I'd forgot about The Big Stick Of Doom.

<squeals> I had two slices of farmhouse style bread today. Was lovely.

Back on track now, and a question for you all: What did you/are you planning on doing with all the clothes that no longer fit you - and you won't be wearing ever again (except one or two exceptions who may be ttc and therefore keeping back some large t-shirts etc)?

I am currently walking round in some clothes that - quite frankly - are ridiculous: jackets that belong on someone (old me) at least two/three stone heavier, or jumpers that were tight at summertime and now baggy around my ab area. I didn't realise until a colleague pointed it out to me.

WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Tue 18-Dec-12 15:33:39

Caramel I have thrown them out as I've gone along (charity shop etc) and was glad to see the back of them! Though I am currently wearing elephant bum trousers as I am saving up for really nice work trousers and as I have no important meetings for a few weeks these will tide me over

There have been a couple of nice tops though that I have kept as I might adapt them

Caramel I'm ditching them and have been as go along I will never let self get that big again

THough have to say as I have large boobs( 36 GG /H not many tops have hit the bin .but they are baggy elsewhere

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Tue 18-Dec-12 16:01:48

I'm either chucking or taking to the charity shop. I'm not keeping them because I WILL NEVER NEED THEM AGAIN!

I've slung out loads of stuff that was worn out, given a few bits that were still in good nick to the charity shop and put a few carefully selected bits in the wardrobe to hopefully be wearing in a few months as we've just started TTC number 2! grin

ViperInTheManger Tue 18-Dec-12 16:45:32

I haven't had to face the clothes thing yet. Apparently the difference between sizes gets bigger as the sizes do (e.g. the inches difference between size 8 and size 10 will be a lot less than the difference between an 18 and a 20 IYSWIM) Also plus sizes tend to be in softer, stretchier fabrics or floatier styles anyway.
The upshot of all of that is that I have lost 2stone-ish but am still in the same size clothes although some of them are a bit looser.

THC After you were telling us yesterday about how disciplined you have been, I decided today only to have a piece of cake if I really, really wanted it and I managed not to!

That is a very small victory but a step in the right direction nevertheless, particularly as I am going out with friends tomorrow night and am sure I will choose to cheat then on wine.
It's a matter of damage limitation at the moment for me whether BIWI's big stick is twitching or not!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Tue 18-Dec-12 17:19:18



I love the timing of this thread. I have just had a massive clear out, binned a ton of stuff that was, quite frankly, horrible and sent the better things to the Charity shop.

I was hanging on to lots of things from when I was fat because I didn't quite believe that the weight would stay off but it's been 10 months since I started dieting, I'm still loving it and have no desire to go back to eating the way I used to, so I bit the bullet and had a clear out. It was really great to be able to look at things that I'd never really liked but wore because it was big enough to cover the flab and think 'that is ugly, didn't suit me at all and I don't want or need it.'

Hopefully I will end up with only clothes that I actually like and enjoy wearing. No more fucking tents!!!

Oh and my little burgundy dress fits. I tried it on and it's perfect. I don't need spanx or anything to hold me in. grin. Don't get me wrong, I'm still overweight but it's normal chubby not morbidly obese. I love this way of eating and the support here has been wonderful. I wouldn't have got this far without you all.

Off to see The Hobbit tonight so I've made some spiced, roasted nuts to take to nibble. Had to hide them away though because everyone kept coming in and picking at them and there was a danger that there wouldn't be any left for the cinema. Beats the crappy popcorn hands down.

EwanHoHoHozami Tue 18-Dec-12 18:27:08

Huzzah for the little burgundy dress, Whip

I have a more worrying item becoming loose - my wedding ring. Eek.

caramel I'm ebaying my too-big clothes and putting the cash towards a fund for a splendid interview-winning trouser suit.

Saag paneer for dinner tonight. Extra spicy.

captainmummy Tue 18-Dec-12 20:51:41

Had cream-cheeese pancakes tonight for tea, but had some bad news (not me, a friend, but really shook me) and have had 2 Baileys. Must have eaten all the nuts (nothing in the house now until THE XMAS SHOP tomorrow) so am forced to be good foodwise, anyway.

Doshusallie Tue 18-Dec-12 21:06:21

Sorry to hear that captain. sad

Some one up thread inferred baileys was not too bad - not sure I believe them but hey, needs must!!

Lunch with a client was pretty crap... Considering it was a canteen with an amazing choice, none of it, including much of the salad bar, was low carb. Approached a lovely looking gammon ham to be told it was for baguettes only. confused. Ended up with a small boring salad and a bowl of pork and bean soup which was gross and ate half of. Was starving when I got in and nailed a pkt of pork scratchings and some cheese. Tea was 2 pork chops with (yet another) salad and coleslaw andaginantonicandalargeglassofred

The end is in sight - interview tomorrow, 2 conference calls, THE SHOP and then I can as much as you can with 10 people coming for Xmas day and 2 small boys at home for 2 weeks....grin

janglebells2013 Tue 18-Dec-12 21:17:19

dosh that pork and bean soup does sound totally gross! all the best for tomorrow - then chillax

congratulations to everyone who is able to buy a new wardrobe - its a good feeling. i remember it well, unfortunately im having to buy a bigger size wardrobe now but i know this is best! i have clothes from many different sizes as my weight has fluctuated so much in the past, and i was scared to throw anything out just incase! im kinda glad i kept some bigger jeans though as now i can wear them. just hope i don't get too big.

captain i hope you are ok. sorry to hear about your friend sad

i had another pork steak for dinner. lol its cos i bought them in the reduced section ages ago and froze them, so i have to eat them all in these 2 days otherwise they will be wasted. and there is no one else to eat them! so il have to have another one tomorrow. have to say, the last time i had red meat was ten years ago and i feel good for eating it now... just don't know why i go from one extreme to the other!

janglebells2013 Tue 18-Dec-12 21:57:20

Jessica thank you for hugs massive festive hugs back and wish u have a lovely Christmas too yes dd is prority as she's a miracle for me turned my life around really

captainmummy Wed 19-Dec-12 08:18:05

Thanks for the good wishes, all. I suppose while we're counting our blessings, we ought to include our own mums. sad

Jangle - i'm sure you won't get too big! (I know all about eating pork for days - i bought 8 chops and froze them all together (why????) so had to eat them for about 3 days, in various forms. Best was pork stroganoff)

halfthesize Wed 19-Dec-12 12:12:31

Captain sorry to hear you have had bad newssad

jan I always have too much of one thing due to freezing issues, then cant eat it for months as so fed up of itwink

Off to do a little shopping including bubbly, as Dsis and children arrive tomorrowgrin

Omelette for lunch, I seem to have given up on breakfast recently! Also I am 2lb down, god knows howconfused

Boobz Wed 19-Dec-12 14:30:39

I can't find the spreadsheet - do I need to go to the old thread before this one and find it there?

halfthesize Wed 19-Dec-12 15:13:04
Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Wed 19-Dec-12 16:22:06

thc speaking of norkage, have you found your boobs have shrunk at all on this woe? I was a dd/e and I think mine have reduced a bit cos I am not spilling out of some bras as much any more. The other thing I've noticed is that I don't get such swelling bloating and discomfort when I am PMT/PMS time as I used to at all. I used to feel my boobs were huge for a few days pre period, now I hardly notice any change. I must go get measured properly again in the new year.

clare have fun ttc!! Oooooh could be our first thread baby.!!

Wel I am 3 pounds up after wine and vodka sodden night out on sat and the resulting carby hangover. Not unexpected as I had been really strict to get under the 150 mark for Saturday. Have another night out tonight, and will try to squeeeeze back into the same dress again but will have to see how it looks hmm going for a meal so hoping there is steak on the menu to have as a LC treat.

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Wed 19-Dec-12 16:25:55

Sorry I mean I am 3 pounds up on my sneaky Saturday weigh in as that was my "end date" when I began this bootcamp. Actually only a pound up on last weeks official weigh in. Will try to hover around the 150 to 152 mark over Xmas. and avoid the chocolate binge

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Wed 19-Dec-12 16:32:33

Oh and also meant to say biwi so glad to see you on solesources thread about her eating, I was just thinking we need biwi over here when you appeared. It would be fab if she joins us.

At some point today my brain will kick in and I will post everything I mean to say on a thread instead of taking 3 go's. I blame staying up too late last night watching "bridesmaids" but it was worth it, laughed a lot which was much needed.

Boobz Wed 19-Dec-12 16:34:21

Thank you halfthesize!

Have updated spreadsheet. Am now 113.3lbs, miraculously given I drank like a fish in Rome. My original target was 114lbs, but now I want to be 110lbs, as I think if I reach there, I will finally get rid of my lumpy thighs and my arms will be completely taught. It's my Day 60 of P90X on Friday, so will update photos if anyone is interested.

And I will really stop when i get to 110lbs, as then I think I will start to look gaunt if I go any further. Need to be careful I don't get too obsessed now I am thin!

halfthesize Wed 19-Dec-12 18:12:55

Well done Boobz thats amazing and yes def upload photogrin

Toomuch my boobs have shrunk drastically since starting this woe back in April, gone from a D cup to a B and do not seem to have any PMT these days, which pleases DH alotgrin

In face DH was only saying last night that since I have been doing this woe and lost weight I am a happier person and we get on like we did when first togethergrin not bad after 14 years!!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Wed 19-Dec-12 19:03:28

I hesitated about posting on SoleSource's thread as I'm aware that I can be a bit over-Evangelical about low carbing. But I really think it would help her. If anyone would like to reinforce my post, that would be great!

Doshusallie Wed 19-Dec-12 19:09:53

Aw that is really sweet half.

I think we have had a previous poster become pregnant haven't we?

Interview went very well this afternoon. What to do, what to do....?? Got a flat tyre on the way though which made life interesting. Aren't the AA ace?

Greek yog for brekkie, celery, cucumber, cheese and pâté and a boiled egg for lunch, pkt pork scratchings for snack, am drinking gin now, and having chicken, swede, onion and green beans done in the slow cooker for tea.

Am feeling so Christmassy now. What is it, that feeling of collective excitement and happiness and expectation, that Christmas brings? Dark rainy cold nights even feel exciting because it's so close to Christmas, offices are all having parties, people are wearing silly hats, schools are going to pantos and wearing their own clothes for parties, the radio is playing Christmas hits - it just makes everything fun and exciting!!!! I count my blessings every day as I know this time of year is not fun for everybody and my heart goes out to those on their own and unhappy.

Doshusallie Wed 19-Dec-12 19:10:18

Link to thread please biwi

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Wed 19-Dec-12 19:13:42
BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Wed 19-Dec-12 19:14:27

Lovely post, Doshusallie

EwanHoHoHozami Wed 19-Dec-12 19:20:48

toomuch I am much reduced of nork. My poor old knockers have been through a rough old time this year. From 36 FF and horribly engorged when breastfeeding newborn DS2 went tits up arf to today's 36B. They're not quite the splendidly perky 36B they were ten years ago though.. More like envelope flaps sad

AAaannnyway, enough about my boobs.

Piri piri marinaded pork chops with celeriac chips tonight!

EwanHoHoHozami Wed 19-Dec-12 19:25:42

half My DH has noted with relief that I no longer get 'hangry' - the hunger anger that I used to get when I was in the grip of sugar addiction.

<wave> at solesource if you're lurking. I think you're amazingly brave and that wonderful things will happen for you if you can carry on being as positive as you are smile

PretzelTime Wed 19-Dec-12 20:03:15

Hi everyone, is it ok to just jump in? I have a question. I've been trying to do lowcarb but keep failing because I'm the only one and family keeps bringing TONS OF CARBS into the house. I mean serious carbs, sweets and chocolate and white bread etc, tons of it and I can't resist it. Is anyone in a similar situation & can give advice?

<...contemplates namechange to bacontime or similar>


No mine are not shrinking the measurement across back is but not cup size . But tbh way back when was only a32 back I was still ff/gg . I swear they must count for a few lbs on their own. But never really suffered with swelling and if pmt if they swell not enough to noticd and lol you can really notice them now they like to butt into conversations

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Wed 19-Dec-12 21:07:52

Welcome, Pretzeltime! It is difficult when you're surrounded by stuff you can't eat! But ultimately it does illustrate one of the key features of this (or any other) diet: you ave to take responsibility for what you choose to eat. No easy way around that I'm afraid. What I would suggest is that you do some reading about low carbing so that you can understand and appreciate the wider, longer term health benefits (beyond weight loss) of this way of eating. I can heartily recommend Dr John Briffa's book "Escape the Diet Trap", and Gary Taubes' book "Why we get fat".

Doshusallie Wed 19-Dec-12 21:12:29

Hi pretzel, more than welcome. grin

I won't lie to you and say that it is easy in the face of resistance. I have been doing this way of eating for nearly 2 years now and therefore dh has had to accept this is just the way I eat now and he has adapted, and even dips into it himself on occasion when he wants to shift a few pounds quickly.

What you will find is that your cravings for sugar and high carb foods will just dissipate after a couple of weeks which means even if you're surrounded by previously tempting foods you just won't want them. This doesn't happen overnight but it does happen. I just don't want a sweet thing after tea anymore or a biscuit with my coffee, or quality street in the office, or pic and mix at the cinema. My "treats" are now a coffee with cream, or a pkt of pork scratchings for the crunch factor, or a piece of cheese.

Hope this helps. My dses diet hasn't changed much, they eat a standard diet of a bit of everything, although I try and limit pasta and sweets.

PretzelTime Wed 19-Dec-12 22:26:15

Thanks for the welcome BIWI and Doshu!smile
I'm painfully aware of how negatively high carb diet affects your health, many of my relatives practically live/lived on sugar and really suffered from the consequenses. Obesity, heart problems, diabetes, cancer (not sure if connected but still...) etc.

I don't want to end up like that but it's so hard to completely change my way of eating when all the old, well-known (and loved lol) foods are around and being eaten in front of me. Now it's Christmas too! Which means lots of guests, who expect me to feed them homemade cake etc...

Loading the fridge with boiled eggs...

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Wed 19-Dec-12 22:29:48

Yes it's perhaps not the best time of the year to start!

WineGless Wed 19-Dec-12 23:59:07

But a good time to start reading up on the theory before diving into the practical on 27th Dec.
I had a donut today and felt utterly shite all day.
It was complete and utter emotional eating. One of my staff retired today and refused to come in the office but rang one of the other staff as he had bought tons of Krispy Kreme donuts. I ate one in annoyance with how he had treated me


Sadly it becomes down to will power

Two of my children are on a high calorie high fat diets high carbs basically anything they want so biscuits /sweets/cakes crisps wtc always INmy house

What I find helps me advoid Is having a goal to focus on both a short term one and a long term one . Slightly easier now as my cravings have gone

Wine glass I fell of wagon on holiday and never again to that point . I just did not enjoy it

ilovemyteddy Thu 20-Dec-12 07:10:33


The scales this morning showed 154lbs. So I have now lost 5 stones.

I'm too knackered to really celebrate as work is a bitch at the moment but...yay!!


BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Thu 20-Dec-12 07:36:14

FABULOUS! thanks

Bet that's the best Christmas present! So pleased for you.

EwanHoHoHozami Thu 20-Dec-12 07:52:38

welcome Bacon Pretzel grin Dosh is right - the sugar cravings almost completely disappear. I took chromium for the first month which is supposed to regulate blood sugar, although I can't say whether it was actually just the WOE doing it's work. MY DH has a serious mince pie habit (the cupboards have been full since late august hmm ) and I just don't fancy 'em.

EwanHoHoHozami Thu 20-Dec-12 07:57:47

ilove - Tremendous stuff! Next time you see an eight-year old, pick them up and that's pretty much how much you've lost grin

captainmummy Thu 20-Dec-12 08:10:25

Welcome Pretzel!

That's fantastic, Ilove - 5 stone is amazing.

Those who have gone off breakfast - me too! Had no appetite yesterday for breakfast OR lunch. Was shopping in Horsham, then work... Had a few coffees, water, a couple of sugar-free butterscotch sweets and nothing else till dinner (spiced butternut squash)

Did the Tesco shop and then watched ds2's xmas show (fab) and a small glass vodka and tonic before exhaustion at about 10!

Breakfast today was coffee-with-cream

WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Thu 20-Dec-12 08:14:47

ilovemyteddy that is fab you must feel awesome (tiredness aside!)

last day of work for me before holidays - not back until 7th January! i am so ready for it as i'm getting irritated easily with people and things that wouldn't normally get me so wound up. i'm also going to be looking at new jobs over the holidays (I like this one but am bored and no opportunity for promotion) so i hopefully might be joining you Dosh on the interview rounds!

janglebells2013 Thu 20-Dec-12 08:26:34

well done ilove!

Willie im sure you are so glad to be off i remember that feeling of relief when i worked... enjoy the break and i hope something comes up for you, its awful when you are bored on your job!

yesterday i took dd to see all the christmas decorations and lights in town, it was really fun. the solicitor was excellent ... i am now armed with info but won't take any steps just yet.

last night some good friends came round. we did have a great night. BUT i failed miserably with the eating. and it wasn't in the good way... i was fine when they were there and i thought it was going to be fine after but the temptation did not strike till i could not sleep and i got up to get a snack and ate all the wrong stuff that i had in for guests. i think it was triggered by 1 not being able to sleep 2 being anxious about everything thats going on lately 3 the fact that as soon as i brought any food out tonight my friends continually went on about how fat they were and how they shouldn't be eating anything. why do people do this? 4 i think i had a carb craving as i hate a sweet snack and lots of nuts that evening.

lots of food for thought, really hope i can think before i just go crazy next time.

hope you all have a lovely day, what is everyones plans for today? im going to see a friend later i haven't seen for ages. and chillaxing with dd.

WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Thu 20-Dec-12 08:38:51

jangle, great that the solicitor was so helpful. you do have such a lot to contend with at the moment, and at least you are able to identify your triggers for problem eating so that you know where the cravings are coming from. are there any steps (thought processes, activities) you can put in place to help combat cravings next time? (I'm thinking of things which work for me such as thinking 'do i know what this tastes like? is this the first and last opportunity for me to ever eat this? will this make me feel better?' - i know though that when you're stressed and tired you can answer all those questions in the right way and still think 'but i don't care i'm going to eat it anyway!')

lots of hugs anyway, and enjoy your day with your friend and dd

Boobz Thu 20-Dec-12 10:18:36

Ewan, same here with the boobs. 34C pre babies, up to 36FF during breast feeding, and now, post 3 children in 3 years and dieting / exercising, there are now 32B. But spaniel ears. I shudder when I look at them naked. I want my pert 34Cs back!


caramelwaffle Thu 20-Dec-12 11:53:26

Welcome Pretzel I agree with reading up at the moment and joining in with the practical post Christmas.

Oh I am SO hungover.

Doshusallie Thu 20-Dec-12 12:23:19

Hi all. I am now in official skive mode as have finished my last work committment. Hurrah!!!

Ewan - you are good - my 8 year old weighs 5 stone exactly. i Love that is fantastic, well done, truly impressive.

Went to gym this morning, last chance for the next couple of weeks so I thought i ought.

Really should go and see my mum this afternoon - or could watch Love Actually with a cuppa. Guilt guilt guilt.

JessicaWakefield Thu 20-Dec-12 13:37:05

Ewan you are not alone. This woe plus BF two DC in quick succession means I have gone from a 34DD to a 32 don't need to wear a bra (but do as feel too old not to!). Wish I could say it was all very Kate Moss in her teenage Calvin Klein campaigns - sadly more southward facing than that!

Welcome Pretzel - the cravings on this woe go very fast honestly and I used to be someone who really was addicted to carbs and had to eat every two hours. Now I am rarely hungry and have to remind myself to have something to eat.

Doshu how about the middle ground - invite your mum over for Love Actually?

ilovemyteddy Thu 20-Dec-12 13:41:09

Thanks all!

Jangle just wanted to send you some ((hugs)) as I've been reading the thread and seen your posts.

For all of you that have finished work for the festive season envy I work in retail and have the whole of Christmas Day off this year. That is it! Although it is keeping me fit and helping with the weight-loss. However, if I pick up any eight year old children I may get arrested grin It's a sobering thought to have lost a whole person, and an even more sobering one to think that this time last year I was carrying around the equivalent of an eight year old 24/7. shock

Onwards and downwards people!

halfthesize Thu 20-Dec-12 15:03:46


Welcome Pretzel

jan so pleased the solicitor went wellgrin have a great day chillaxing

sad oh dear caramel lots of water always helps mewink

vnmum Thu 20-Dec-12 16:02:49

Hi all. I've been doing well at getting back on track. Another few pounds down already. Today hasn't been great though. I'm tired, trying to fight off bugs and worried about DS. He has been off school for most of the week after seeing the ooh doctor on sunday with huge tonsils, red spots all over his throat and in lots of pain. Doc said it was viral tonsillitis. He was worse on monday and couldn't even eat yoghurt, so took him to our docs who said it was viral. He just doesn't seem to have got better. He hasn't eaten properly since monday, just managing ice cream, is now full of snot and coughing so much he is sick. He has had a temp all this time too.

Think it will be back to the doctors tomorrow as we have a night out on saturday and are travelling home on sunday for xmas.

So with all that worry i have succumbed to some biscuits at work.

Well done to everyone who has reached goals, got in dresses etc.

On a slightly more positive note, DH has finally got a diagnosis for his knee and is going to have cruciate ligament reconstruction sometime next year (could be upto 4 months for the appt). The specialist was also surprised it had taken nearly 12 months to get to this point.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Thu 20-Dec-12 16:04:37

Sorry to hear your DS is so poorly vnmum. Hopefully he will be on the mend by Christmas.

Doshusallie Thu 20-Dec-12 16:09:39

Sending get well vibes to your DS vnmum.

Jessica - a lovely idea, and I only wish mum could. She is in a dementia ward of a hospital as she has Alzheimer's. It would be easier to get myself there if i knew she would know who I was when I got there but she doesn't. sad

So - I did THE SHOP instead. I spent an obscene amount of money, the turkey is MASSIVE and I still need to go again tomorrow I think because I don't seem to have bought anything for us to eat between now and Christmas! grin

halfthesize Thu 20-Dec-12 16:33:00

vnmum hope DS is feeling better soon and great news re DH getting diagnoses but rubbish re time taking to get sortedsmile

Piffle Thu 20-Dec-12 17:45:07

I've been buried under very sick and poorly children plus an older ds1 home from uni with girlfriend and Christmas stuff to sort.
However aside from a few slip ups
2 x 2 beers
almond cake
milk chocolate
noodle with a takeaway
DD is about to be admitted againwith her cyclic vomiting attack so diet is last thing on my mind tonight sad

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Thu 20-Dec-12 18:05:22

Oh no Piffle sad. Hope she's better soon.

I have just taken delivery of a MASSIVE box of Thornton's chocolates from one of our suppliers confused. Save me ...

Doshusallie Thu 20-Dec-12 18:21:52

Uh oh. [fashions big stick out of cardboard wrapping paper tubes and brandishes it threateningly at biwi]

EwanHoHoHozami Thu 20-Dec-12 19:04:04

Oh gosh lots of poorly DCs sad hope they all get better for The Big Day.

I'm doing the big shopping list tonight. We're not doing a turkey, we're considering doing a really rich game casserole of some kind. I've got a houseful so secretly can't wait until it's all cooked, washed up and I'm sitting in front of Call The Midwife with a contraband Bailey's!

Ooh yes I have loads of empty rolls of wrapping paper. Dosh your post about feeling Christmassy was great, sums up how I feel about it.

Vnmum and piffle, really hope your DCs get well soon.

Teddy, well done! That is fantastic. smile

BIWI, let DH and DCs eat those chocs, you will find them far too sweet. Trust me. [fshame]

Met a friend today to exchange presents and she got out the mince pies. Had one to be polite and thankfully hasn't started any cravings or bad effects yet. Ahem.

I need to welcome somebody to our wonderful thread but can't remember name sorry. Will look back when I've posted this.

Welcome Pretzel! Really hope you come to enjoy this woe as much as the rest of us. Just one thing, if you have a question that you think has been overlooked just SHOUT. This thread moves quite quickly at times.

DH now home and we have electricity still (not sure for how long with this rain) so time for a festive Christmas vodka cup of tea. smile

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Thu 20-Dec-12 19:28:00

ilove awesome!!! Well done you!!! And welcome to pretzeltime
Get well soon vnmumds

Well another night out last night, another fab meal with loads of wine, another day today of raiding the fridge to cope with the hangover. I think I've eaten nearly a whole packet of salami with Philly. and some toast whoops

Had turkey tonight with Brussels and carrots. It was just a frozen joint from asda, meant as a kind of "practice dry run" to get DS (6) to try it again before Xmas day. He liked it tonight, phew, so he will hopefully eat some on Xmas day and I can avoid the worried expressions of my parents about how he is "so fussy". My mum always says how I ate everything put in front of me no problem from when I was a baby, and I think (but don't say) yes mum and I have struggled with my weight all my adult life and always feel obliged to finish everything on my plate even if I don't want or need it, due to how I was raised. If Ds is more aware of his appetite and is more self regulating then I don't see this as a bad thing as hopefully he will not end up with weight issues.

caramelwaffle Thu 20-Dec-12 21:14:01

Well done ilove 5 stone is fantastic!

Get well soon all of the ill DCs

Ilove, 5 stone is AMAZING! Well done!

Vnmum and Piffle. Hope your children get better soon.

Vnmum, awesome news about your husbands knee. He must be so relieved that they are finally doing something about it.

Pretzel, I was amazed at how little I want bad stuff now. Took a couple of weeks and then I really just didn't want it. My sons have been stockpiling Xmas goodies and I'm not even slightly tempted. Previously I was the worlds biggest carb addict. There is a thread further down in this section entitled 'I feel like I'm drowning in sheer uncontrollable greed'. I could have written it 10 months ago and now I've lost over 3 stone and it was easy. You just need to get through the first couple of weeks without cheating so that you are properly in ketosis and it's a pretty smooth ride from there.

JessicaWakefield Thu 20-Dec-12 22:17:51

I'm very sorry to hear about your DM's diagnosis Doshu <<hug>>

captainmummy Fri 21-Dec-12 08:31:15

Hope all sick dc get better soon! Dosh - my fridge and freezer and wardrobe are stuffed with shopping - but I think I've finish ed!

Remember the green chicken? I phoned Lidl again, as I hadn;t heard for over a month, they said they'd sent a letter a month ago, and would resend.I got the letter (dated 23/11, but postmarked 17/12!) saying they would 'refund and replace' if i spoke to the store manager. Which I did, yesterday, and he said 'would you like a refund or replacement' I said, 'no, a refund and replacement' he said ' I can offer you a refund OR replacement' I said 'NO, a refund AND replacement!' ... Even tho I didn't really want a replacement (Cringe at the thought of more green chicken!)

So we are having roast chicken tonight, with all trimmings!grin

captainmummy Fri 21-Dec-12 08:31:51

Oh and I got a further copy of the letter the next day.

MulledwineGless Fri 21-Dec-12 09:50:41

Checking in as am still alive after the excesses of the weekend although the bruises are only just fading blush

Haven't got time to reply to all messages but welcome to the new joiners and we will be back on it properly in January.

Am on nights all weekend so may post at random times if I get a break.

Off to collect bike for DD so will build that this afternoon and wrap DH presents. Two more presents to buy for nephew and MIL and then thats me finished. In more ways than one - am fighting off the lurgy still and feeling grim.

janglebells2013 Fri 21-Dec-12 09:59:30

hope all the sickly children are better soon and in time for Christmas, and everyone is enjoying the festive season, excitement and stress involved.

toomuch i think you have a great attitude around your ds's food and eating - my dd is also very fussy and i try not to make a fuss and if she doesn't want something just offer something else and if she doesn't want anything i offer just wait till the next snack or meal time. im sure they know what they are doing (i also came from the 'clean your plate' camp)

today was meant to be going out for lunch with people i hardly know. very nice of them to invite me, but i feel now i just want a quiet day in so thats what im going to do, catch up on a few things, stay in my lounging clothes, put nice candles on, sort the exciting laundry.

welcome to all the newcomers, you will find this way of eating a revelation, just keep on going at it and you will feel healthier too.

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Fri 21-Dec-12 10:04:20

I got my Asda order last night, not the Xmas shop, just standard fortnightly shop for dog food, toilet roll, tins of soup etc. Guess what was an unavailable item, no substitution offered? Eggs. So, as there were no 6 x medium free range eggs in store, couldn't have replaced with large size or a bigger box? No? Riiiiiight.


EwanHoHoHozami Fri 21-Dec-12 11:53:08

toomuch this is why I am braving the shops myself tomorrow. DH has not yet forgiven Mr. Tesco for replacing his festive ale with Kaliber one year grin

am sharpening my elbows...

MsRinky Fri 21-Dec-12 12:12:15

I hit my 50lbs loss target! Woohoo ! <runs round with jumper over head>

Well done to everyone else, especially Ilove.

Can I just have a petty wee rant though? Although I have always loved chocolate, I never got given chocolates for Christmas presents. Maybe cause I was fat people thought it would be wrong or something? So this year I decided to buy myself some wee planned indulgences and enjoy them mindfully.

And what does everyone decide to give me this year ? Chocolates, sweets, biscuits, bloody boxes of the damn things. Yeah, that's what someone who has clearly been working her arse off (literally) all year is going to want. One "friend" has sent me four boxes, seriously. Bloody saboteurs.

Well it isn't going to work. I have my little box of salted caramels that I'm going to savour, and the rest are being "redistributed". And not onto my arse.

halfthesize Fri 21-Dec-12 12:17:05

Hi All, crawling in with yet another hangoverblush drinking shed loads of water.

Piffle really hope DD gets better soon x

Whippoorwhill my mum exactly the same comment and think the same as you re weight issues. Well done on the 3 stone loss thats fantasticgrin

Sorry to hear about your mum dosh

Good luck too everyone who is braving the supermarkets, Tesco was awful on Wednesday!! I'm off too the cinema with DS's then home to do yet more wrapping. Really wish it would get colder and frosty like the other week as would look lovely and christmassysmile fed up of this damn rainsad

caramelwaffle Fri 21-Dec-12 12:17:05

Salted caramels.

Good choice grin

janglebells2013 Fri 21-Dec-12 12:17:37

no its not going to work MsRinky! they will be good gifts you have plenty of time to regift them, and to let yourself have PLANNED treats. you are doing great and nothing is going to stop you! they are just JEALOUS!!!

Jacaqueen Fri 21-Dec-12 12:19:33

Just quickly catching up. Where has this week gone?

I was at the shops this morning looking for something to wear but nothing really caught my eye. I still have a few presents to buy along with the rest of the food shop. The fridge and freezer are full but there is nothing to eat. How does that happen? I need to get some cleaning done too. The boys stop school at 1 pm today and that is when Christmas is supposed to start, but I am just not feeling it this year. Everything is meant to all be done by now and we were going to spend the next few days watching DVD's, doing Christmas crafts, going for country walks, visiting the market in Edinburgh etc etc.

Oh well at least DH and I have had our annual festive falling out a few days early this year. Gets it out of the way I suppose. Normally happens around the 23rd when the stress gets too much.

I hope everyone who is ill, or has poorly children, get better soon.

Huge well done to those who are continuing to lose weight and who have reached their goals.

Welcome to the newbies and those that are lurking, I look forward to getting to know you better when Bootcamp restarts.

Hugs to those that need them.

I think that cores it for now. I will be back for a moan later.

Jacaqueen Fri 21-Dec-12 12:22:53

Covers it!

That should say.

halfthesize Fri 21-Dec-12 12:25:59

Well done MsRinky bet you feel fantastic grin

Jacaqueen Fri 21-Dec-12 12:30:49

Well done MsRinky.

I am still 2lbs away from my 3stone goal. Can't see it happening before Tuesday but I live in hope.

Doshusallie Fri 21-Dec-12 13:05:37

Thankyou Jessica* and half - went to visit Mum this morning, and sang Christmas carols to her. My singing always used to make her collapse in giggles because she found it so funny becauseIcannotsingforsaltedcaramel grin

Dh off doing his mysterious shop that he does every year - mysterious in that he goes with a list I have written of suggested presents for people and comes back with piles of stuff that wasn't on the list. I talked about diamonds ALOT last night. fatchance

DS2 had his Christingle service with school at their church this morning. It was Christmas in a box. Utterly charming and goose pimply. He did a reading. I filmed it all in true mum style. Ding Dong Merrily on High lalalalalalalalalala...sigh. LOVE IT!!!!

Also filmed the river that has burst it's banks near us. Second the wish for some nice coldy frosty weather now please.

Lunch now I think - boiled eggs, pate, celery, cucumber - the usual. 9 1 this morning, ready for the Christmas onslaught of a Christmas drinks party tonight and egg nog has been i even like egg nog? Does anyone even like egg nog? What the frig is egg nog anyway?

Ahh Dosh that must be tough situation with your mum. Mine drives me potty at times but at 85 thankfully she is still sharp as a tack. Especially when it comes to my weight loss and scrawny face. Grrrr. grin. Isn't eggnog the homemade version of Advocaat? Anyway, it's alcoholic you'll be fine. Which reminds me I've got a bottle in the cupboard .......

Hope everyone is ok and feeling Chrismassy. smile

Dosh what a lovely thing to do, sorry it is so tough for you.

JessicaWakefield Fri 21-Dec-12 22:19:40

Dosh that is lovely I agree with Mrs HP

Still at target here so I feel like I have a bit of room for manoeuvre over the next few days. Have been eating brandy butter straight from the jar as a sweet treat. You only need a teaspoon which is about 4g carb and it's amazing!

Dinner tonight is roast cauliflower with cheddar, goats cheese, double cream, mustard and bacon on a bed of baby leaf salad - and I'm only cooking for me as DH is out - back in the day it would have been cereal or toast when I'm on my own - this woe lest anyone needed reminding is just a revelation!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 21-Dec-12 22:45:04

Evening all!

I think someone needs to nick my big stick and beat me with it blush

Met up with DH at lunchtime today, at the pub, and had fish and chips. Whoops!

ViperInTheManger Fri 21-Dec-12 23:36:55

Thank God it's not just me being bad. The good news is that DS has arrived home but the bad news is that we had a chinese (his choice) and drank champagne to welcome him home blush.

I did the Tesco shop today and was far less tempted by all the Xmas "goodies" than I have been before.

Finally had a text from friend who vanished last weekend, she is fine, clearly just unreliable.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Fri 21-Dec-12 23:40:27

Good news Viper (on both fronts)

froufroulala Sat 22-Dec-12 00:02:14

Hello can I join? My eating is out of control & I feel so ashamed.

If course you can froufrou! Although honestly many if us are being a little slack at the moment, but will all be back on track by Jan 7th!!!

halfthesize Sat 22-Dec-12 07:44:34

dosh that's lovelysmile BIWI I also had fish and chips yesterdayblush
viper pleased your DS is home safelygrin
welcome to newbieswink

EwanHoHoHozami Sat 22-Dec-12 08:13:03

Hi froufrou welcome along smile What is it that you'd like to change? We've all felt like you at some point, I bet.

I have The Shop to do today which in conjunction with my thunderous PMT is going to be somewhat unpleasant.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 22-Dec-12 09:07:24

Morning all! And welcome, froufrou! Next Bootcamp starts on 7 Jan. Best thing you could be doing at the moment is to prepare yourself for what is to come.

Here is a link to the Spreadsheet of Wonderfulness At the bottom of the spreadsheet you will see various tabs, and if you click on these you will find Bootcamp rules as well as a list of allowed veg.

If you haven't low carbed before, it's also a really good idea to do a bit of reading about it, as you will find that much of what we are doing runs counter to what you would expect/what current 'healthy eating' advice is - and it's important that you understand why. As a WOE (way of eating) it is one that you have to commit to full time - it's not like eating a low fat or low calorie diet where one good day can balance out one bad one! So you need to know what you are in for.

That said, and I think (hope!) everyone here who has come to low carb for the first time will agree that it is a much more pleasurable way to eat, compared with a conventional low calorie/low fat diet. In fact, once you're in the swing of it, you would be hard pressed to say you are actually 'on a diet'!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 22-Dec-12 09:08:56

I'm off to the PILs today. Whilst they are lovely people, and it will be great to see them, I really don't want to go. I have too much to do at home! However, I'm very much looking forward to tomorrow morning, when we have a Skype call arranged with my SIL and nieces in Australia - so we will finally get a chance to see those babies grin

Ewan, that sounds like a disastrous combination. Good luck!

Welcome, frou. grin Think we're all just slouching around here at the minute. Jan 7 is when BIWI starts waving the Big Stick around again.

Doshusallie Sat 22-Dec-12 09:20:29

Oh dear. Navigated around the egg nog straight into the vodka jellies. I feel absolutely dreadful. It's going to be a long day. sad

Ooh Dosh not good. <Passes coffee>. Dare I ask if the eggnog was good or can't you face thinking of it right now? I had an Advocaat with soda and ice last night. It was good but thinking prob not low carb friendly.

sybilfaulty Sat 22-Dec-12 10:42:29

Welcome Frou Frou. You will love it here. This is a fantastic bunch of women and the food is gorgeous.

Diosh, poor you on the vodka jellies. Hope you feel better.

BIWI, so glad you are going to see the babies. Bit naughty on the fish and chops though. Still, even our leader can lapse over Christmas.

Have drunk too much, not enough water and yesterday ate those low carb staples nougat and crisps. Now on train to see my wee dad in his dementia home. I am going to sing to him too. What a lovely idea.

Hope you all have a great day xx

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 22-Dec-12 12:14:08

I know it was naughty. But it was very nice! (Mind you, I couldn't eat it all - I left at least a third of it, so hopefully not too bad).

I'm trying very hard not to just slide into the 'but it's Christmas!' mentality - it's so tempting, and very easy.

sweetiepie1979 Sat 22-Dec-12 12:22:56

Hey ladies can I join you for some support I need to lose 10 pounds I've already lost 2 stone I need to lose 4/5 for new years eve do you think I can do it with no carbs maybe Some on Xmas day only?

EwanHoHoHozami Sat 22-Dec-12 12:23:30

Shop done, no one died.

Christmas lunch for 6 for £38 (only possible because we have elsewhere acquired some game for my casserole)

not including booze. I have requested that guests bring madeira and sake. Love the idea of eggnog! (sorry Dosh grin )

froufroulala Sat 22-Dec-12 12:53:37

Thankyou for your lovely replies. I have tried cutting back on carbs before but with little guidance & no support. No ones fault its just the rest of my family have no weight problems & it can be hard when shopping for food. I also have Crohns disease which isn't helpful. I have around 6 stone to lose & look a right state in anything I put on atm. We have been told by the hospital my Dad has not long (Alzheimers & heart failure) so Jan 7th maybe a good date for me. Have a wonderful Christmas everyone & thankyou.

BIWI I know what you mean about the christmas mentality. I have managed to stay on track during the days, but evenings have led to puddings and snacks. I am trying to not eat when not hungry and up my water intake instead rather than tell myself I can't have something as I know for me that ends in disaster.

Have just planned eating between now and christmas eve and that is all 'good' so hoping for a sort of even keel at least.

Hurrah for all the shopping, DH went this morning with DD (3) - he is brilliant! She even fell over and he averted the crisis by finding peppa pig plasters and putting one on her before they even started the shop. I stayed at home and cleaned and tidied so apart from the fact I have lost my effing sellotape! We are pretty organised now.

Right off to shower then relax!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 22-Dec-12 13:28:00

Welcome, sweetie! 4-5lbs is quite a lot to expect to lose in the next 9 days, especially with Christmas. When you say 'no carbs' what do you mean? If you focus on lower carb veg and salad you should be fine. Better than cutting them out altogether, I think,

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Sat 22-Dec-12 13:47:34

Welcome froufrou I hope you can join us on the next bootcamp and feel free to ask any questions here before we start on the 7th.

I may not be the ideal role model for newbies tho ... blush had a totally off-plan day yesterday with social things involving [gluten free] cake, coffee, spaghetti for tea, wine and mince pies. It was a lovely time seeing 2 lots of friends, but I am suffering for it a bit today, I had a terrible sleep and am feeling very puffy and tired today, still in my pjs!! So I have decided to be better for the next 3 days until the blow out on the Big Day itself.

sweetiepie1979 Sat 22-Dec-12 13:55:43

Oh hello thanks, ok I'll stick to low carb which will mean. I bread pasta potatoes that sort of thing. Got to stay off Chocs too v difficult this time of year! Even 2/3 pounds would be good .....

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sat 22-Dec-12 14:05:27

<nosey> What are you doing/going to that means you need to lose that much weight by NYE?!

Jacaqueen Sat 22-Dec-12 16:08:57

I will tell you another good thing about this ketosis malarkey. It allows you to get up at the crack of dawn, quickly eat some Greek yog, get to the shops before they open, shop all day with just a coffee and some dark choc for energy and then get home and have some lovely broccoli and Stilton soup to warm you up.

Sorelip Sat 22-Dec-12 16:14:49

BIWI, will there be a NY bootcamp? After quite a while trying to do calorie counting, I've admitted defeat. The only diet that has ever worked is the Atkins, on which I lost 3 stone. I now need to lose around 1.5 stones, and have gone vegetarian. The best part about low carbing was that I was never starving an hour after I had a meal, which I am now.

MulledwineGless Sat 22-Dec-12 17:49:45

Morning all! Body clock completely out of kilter. I had some chocolate at work last night and boy did I suffer for it. Not been off the loo since
Just had ham rolled up with philly cheese for brekkie

Now ladies of Bootcamp help is needed please.

DH has come back from MIL and we are providing dessert for Xmas Day as well as the cheeseboard.

I will buy a Xmas pudding for those who eat it.
What would be a really yummy low carb pudding? Was thinking something chocolately but I would need to be able to take it with me and not faff round putting it together in MIL kitchen iyswim

Sorelip, we are regrouping on 7 Jan for Bootcamp. Come and join us. smile

Wine, that choc pot recipe BIWI posted on the recipe thread is delicious. You could prepare it at home then just transport it.

EwanHoHoHozami Sat 22-Dec-12 18:26:43

Wine if you wanted something non-choc then both the vodka and lemon sorbet and strawberry cheesecake from the Rose Elliot veggo book are luvverly. Cheesecake being the more transportable option I suppose.

If either appeals, shout and I'll post the recipe.

Doshusallie Sat 22-Dec-12 18:41:42

[Shuffles in]

Having been a hero and masked the hangover of the year fairly successfully by taking boys to a Christmas party all afternoon, I am now slumped in pyjamas. Vodka. What was I thinking, I can't drink it. Can't wait for tomorrow when I will hopefully feel better. Shudder at the thought of feeling like this on Christmas day, it would be ruined.

Am also having a mild panic attack that I haven't bought the boys enough Christmas presents. It's all under the tree and when it was upstairs it looked like loads, but now not so much.... hmm

Had an amazing fry up for breakfast and have had some yoghurt and a pkt of pork scratchings so far, not sure what to have for tea....

dosh it will be loads and they will love it. Ignore the last minute jitters!

DH got a slow cooker for his birthday last weekend. We LOVE it! We had planned on a take away indian tonight, but decided instead to make our own curry in slow cooker -was delish! We did have it with a small bit of naan bread and samosa and onion bhaji from supermarket, but I reckon a better choice than what rubbish we'd have got from a take away. I will post the recipe in recipe section when I get a chance but was really nice.

Hope you are all having a lovely weekend - just relaxing with Strictly!

janglebells2013 Sat 22-Dec-12 19:57:51

Hi if anyone is around.... i feel tempted to eat the wrong stuff. had a stressful day with dd, she was overtired as we both got a rubbish sleep last night. she's asleep now after tantrums, im tired... and please someone tell me some reasons why i will feel rubbish if i eat rubbish...

MulledwineGless Sat 22-Dec-12 20:03:58

Jangle you've been doing so well

What rubbish are you planning on eating?

It will give you stomach cramps, carb hangover and you will be cross with yourself tomorrow

Have you got any low carb treats instead, even Christmas ones? You can always replace them tomorrow
Sending big hugs- you are doing so well especially with everything exh is throwing at you

I'm here. You will feel rubbish as it won't make you feel any better, you'll then be annoyed with what was annoying you before and annoyed with yourself. If you are like me, you'll then eat even mo for being annoyed with yourself and then by bedtime feel overfill and sick and wish more than anything else you hadn't done it.

Try to remember the times you haven't eaten rubbish in this situation and how virtuous and happy you felt the next morning when you woke up for being strong.

Stay strong Jangle, you can do it. Xxxx. Big hugs instead xxxx

MulledwineGless Sat 22-Dec-12 20:05:13

Waves to mrs Hp- just watched strictly too. Who do you want to win?

I don't know! Am a bit behind so just watched Kimberley do her first dance... I am torn! What about you?

Oi Jangle watch Strictly nd chat with us instead, we're much better that rubbish food wink

sweetiepie1979 Sat 22-Dec-12 20:20:31

WISHyOUAMERRYCHRISTMAS I'm going to my Bro in law house for family party I know he thinks I'm fat he is such a dick sometimes. Just want to feel good and a few pounds off would help a lot!

MulledwineGless Sat 22-Dec-12 20:25:36

I am wavering towards Kimberley overall but loved Louis and Flavias show dance

Jangle come and chat lovey.

Sweetie- he sounds like a right charmer

janglebells2013 Sat 22-Dec-12 20:29:12

hi thank you - the temptation has passed now - even writing that i was feeling like it and kind of being accountable really helped. i have been watching strictly and am tidying up dds mess instead. she keeps waking up to be re - settled so its hard to chat... i hope tonight isn't a repeat of last night (in my bed by 11, wriggle and continual waking all night!)

i have had dark choc and coffee with cream so i do feel ive had a treat, and ive ate well today - im not even hungry its purely emotional!! but i feel a lot better now.

i loved denise's show dance, thought it was amazing! those lifts were fab, and i LOVED Kim's energy and her pink dress was gorgeous on her. oh it will be a tough one.

sweetie... thats awful about your BIL, he doesn't sound too nice. i hope you go and have a fab time and feel confident and good about yourself

janglebells2013 Sat 22-Dec-12 20:31:26

yes, thats exactly what i would do, eat cos im annoyed and then it makes it worse. well its not happening tonight! going to be good to myself and look after myself so that when i have to be up half the night, and when i wake tomorrow morning ill not feel even more rubbish!! thanks for the support smile

ViperInTheManger Sat 22-Dec-12 20:31:42

Hi all, I have spent the day baking and getting stuff ready as we are visiting my mum tomorrow and delivering family presents. Also because DD decided to make Xmas treats for older relatives as gifts and, having got me to buy the ingredients when shopping, has gone out and not finished anything hmm

I had a bad day yesterday so, having read a bit about intermittent fasting and the benefits of 18 hours without food, set myself a target of fasting until 2pm today so feel a bit more in control now even though my eating is still shit

Viper well done, one day at a time. I don't know why I'm sitting here doling out my tuppence worth! I am being rubbish!!!

Sweetie, you only want to lose 4/5lb? Your BIL sounds pretty unpleasant tbh. Ignore him. grin

Viper and MrsHP, think BIWI will be aimlessly waving the Big Stick in your direction. WHAT are you eating?!

Well, tonight after much nagging by DH, I cooked him his much drooled after/longed for potato wedges with his steak and salad. This is the man who has a whinge occasionally about low carb eating despite dropping almost two stone. He was waiting with a puppy dog expression of hopefulness. THEN said 'actually they were ok. I thought I was missing them. But you know this made me realise I'm not really.....' Argghhh. .... but ... RESULT!

Mostly mince pies, homemade, other than that I'm on track shhhhh.....

sybilfaulty Sun 23-Dec-12 13:38:00

MrsHP, I am allowing myself the odd mincer as a treat. They are loaded with carbs but I figured the mini ones without their tops on is probably ok.

Lots of lovely LC food bought this morning. Feeling quite excited now. Loads to do though. Right, DVD for kids and upstairs to wrap for me.

janglebells2013 Sun 23-Dec-12 13:57:12

thanks for being here last night, did feel much better this morning smile

its the TOM too no wonder i feel rubbish.

Sybil glad you have lots of LC treats in and r feeling excited, hope you are enjoying wrapping today. we will shhhhhhhh about all the mince pies!

Viper sorry to hear about your bad day yesterday but you sound so much more like you know what you are doing and in control now so hope everything goes well for you today.

think the most important thing is to try our best but not be too hard on ourselves if it goes wrong, especially since its christmas smile

hope you all having a great weekend.

Doshusallie Sun 23-Dec-12 19:42:06

confused hmm. It's very quiet around here. You are all off eating mince pies aren't you? Don't lie now, I can see all the crumbs down the front of your Christmas jumpers......

I am still pretty much on the wagon so far.....woke up this morning and just celebrated not being hungover anymore. Hurray. Wanted to die yesterday and had a glorious 11.5 hours sleep last night.

Have just made hazelnut rum chocolate truffles however so it may all go a bit pete tong earlier than planned.......

janglebells2013 Sun 23-Dec-12 20:33:05

hi dosh. are you enjoying your time off? a good sleep always helps!

those choc truffles sound yum. i am toying with making nigellas chocolate log tomorrow. i have everything i need here to make it.

MulledwineGless Sun 23-Dec-12 20:48:13

Evening losers no mince pies no sirree.
On way in for my last night shift. Had a grand total of 4 hours sleep today so am well jel Dosh!
Am making Baileys cheesecake for pudding and choc pots for me or a variation on them

<brushes off crumbs surreptitiously>

Doshusallie Sun 23-Dec-12 22:09:40

Jangles I am making nigella's 'easy holiday trifle' to take to my dad's on boxing day. Love her puddings and cakes not that I actually usually eat any of them, just make them for others. All bets are off on Xmas and boxing day though.

Having said that however, am sitting here with terrible stomach ache, dh put loads of flour in the sauce for cauliflower cheese, that's all I think it could be.....sad

WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Sun 23-Dec-12 23:44:19

No mince pies yet! <saintly>

I am at my parents', and have interrogated my mother about the meal plan and everything is low carbable provided I steer clear of the sweet stuff hmm grin

That said, I will be enjoying myself on Christmas Day at least. Though as others have said I'm put off going overboard as I have stomach cramps just from a bit of gravy made with cornflour today <joins dosh>

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Mon 24-Dec-12 00:42:20

Today started well with scrambled eggs for brekkie and chicken pieces with salad for late lunch. Wasn't hungry at tea time so just had a couple of slices of cheese. Finished all the pressie wrapping. Watched some tv. Had a couple of mince pies. Whoops. Ah well, I nearly made it to Christmas!!

WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Mon 24-Dec-12 05:50:47

this book was linked to on another forum I'm on - not available for six months but it looks like it could be a perfect source of recipes!

EwanHoHoHozami Mon 24-Dec-12 09:05:43

No mincers here as I was struck down with an odd virus thing yesterday that totally knocked the stuffing out of me for 24 hrs.

Feel OK today though - how weird!

am making up a batch of flax crackers and LC dips <saintly>

That book looks good, Willie. I like a bit of long-term planning grin

sybilfaulty Mon 24-Dec-12 09:11:32

Sorry about the virus Ewan. Glad you are now better.

Everyone here is grumpy and fractious. Dh left himself far too much to do so is panicking and being a bit if a sod. MIL arriving shortly to compound things. Plus I ate 4 mini mince pies last night and my tummy is revelling this morning.

Right must gird self. Back later. Merry Christmas Eve girls.

sybilfaulty Mon 24-Dec-12 09:12:10

Rebelling unfortunately. It is as far fr a revel as it possibly could be.

janglebells2013 Mon 24-Dec-12 11:38:06

hope things pick up for you sybil...

dd gone sad went out for awhile to shops, now going to make cauliflour bake for tomorrow. went to the co-op which was a flipping rip off compared to tesco.

halfthesize Mon 24-Dec-12 11:44:10

Hello everyone I just wanted to say a massive MERRY CHRISTMAS to you allgrin

Family arrive today so will not have time to be on here for a few days, so I hope everyone has a fantastic Christmas and Santa brings you all lots of lovely giftswink

Im off to ensure all the bubbly is chilling whilst baking/cooking x x

Doshusallie Mon 24-Dec-12 12:14:10

Merry Christmas Eve all! Dh is now trying to be more agreeable after I told him off for being grumpy, and is finally engaging with his own kids, who seem to have turned into Monsters. I am praying it's a Christmas thing.

Peace reigns at the moment, so MIL and I are making puddings with Christmas music on.

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Mon 24-Dec-12 13:46:36

Went to M&S this morning to pick up the food order for tomorrow. it was actually reasonably civilised, but it is a smallish one in a country town. i would hate to be in a major shopping centre today.

DH is on the man-dash for my present hmm, Ds is working off some energy by jumping on the sofa and I am having a coffee with cream and some cocktail sausages.

A very Merry Christmas Eve to you all, hope tomorrow is wonderful for you and yours, and enjoy any treats you have planned!!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Mon 24-Dec-12 15:03:02

Happy Christmas Eve everyone! Just flying in - should be wrapping and/or cooking, but having a quick 5 minutes.

Haven't started on the chocolate yet - but not really been very good on the food front so far. Went to a party last night, and the food was slow roasted pork with bread rolls and stuffing - so I didn't hold back blush

I hope everyone is winding down now and having a lovely Christmas Eve.

The Big Stick is locked in the cupboard now for the next few days grin

HumphreyCobbler Mon 24-Dec-12 15:13:23

Hello everyone - just popped in to say Merry Christmas to all of you. I don't seem to post much but I am still sticking to it mostly. I just hosted a party at our house and received many compliments due to my new slim shape!

Have a lovely ChristmasXXX

Jacaqueen Mon 24-Dec-12 16:54:20

Just popping in to wish you all a Merry Christmas. Off out in a bit to the lovely neighbours for drinks and nibbles. Ham and red cabbage cooked. Fridge, freezer and larder packed full of goodies. Let Christmas begin!

See you all on the other side.

MulledwineGless Mon 24-Dec-12 17:35:53

Well I think I am nearly there. Just a bike to assemble tonight.

DH is at the pub and DC watching the Grinch. I made a baileys cheesecake and chocolate mousse plus the obligatory Xmas pudding for tomorrow. And a mahoosive cheeseboard which I am looking forward to.

Feeling quite emotional tonight as spoke to all my family before on webcam who are in Scotland for Xmas and wishing I was there.

A glass of Baileys should sort me out- that's my Xmas treat to myself

janglebells2013 Mon 24-Dec-12 17:55:39

well done humphrey!

mulledwine christmas is just such an emotional time when things aren't perfect. im sorry you can't be in scotland but glad you can see them all on the webcam and hope you get caught up with everything and get busy and don't have too much time to get down about it. hugs x

and merry christmas to all of you as well. im watching the grinch! no real need for me to cheat. i made nigella's chocolate puddings, however when they were on the heat they were meant to turn to a 'mayo consistency' - they didn't! so i added more cornstarch and chocolate and still didn't. so ive put them in the fridge and they will be a nice choc sauce to go with something else.

anyone else made a hash of their baking/ cooking? lol. ive made the house nice and Christmassy. my friend is dropping a wee present in bless her in a while.

so merry christmas and good luck to everyone hosting a dinner smile

Jan, am having a bit of a disaster with the duck liver pâté so you're not on your own. Ahh well will have a another drink. Am just grateful that the power has come back on as the rain seems to have eased off for now. Was getting a bit twitchy earlier. The thought of hungry faces tomorrow and no oven was getting a bit worrying.

Wishing a very Happy Christmas to one and all. grin. I LOVE Christmas.

Merry Christmas everyone for tomorrow!! Xxx

I didn't get the turkey out early enough and it is still frozen solid. At this rate I might be cooking the turkey drumsticks I bought for the dogs! grin

I have eaten crisps and 4 squares of dark chocolate with bits of nut and orange in it (too sweet) and had half a bottle of beer. Whoa we need to slow down a bit here! ;)

Husband and sons are attempting to put the tree and decorations up. There is lots of swearing and crashing so I am hiding out in the bedroom with the dogs and pretending to wrap pressies while actually Mumsnetting.

Wishing you all a wonderful Christmas and a slim New Year.

MulledwineGless Mon 24-Dec-12 21:37:29

Whip it will defrost overnight < confident >

Just blabbed our way through the snowman and the snowdog. DC are asleep I hope

DH is constructing the bike for dd. am wondering whether to go and help but then think bollocks to it. He hasn't had to sort out presents other than for me so the least he can do is build one sodding bike ;)

Blubbed our way through Snowman and Dog. sad

Leave DH to it Wine Relax.

sybilfaulty Tue 25-Dec-12 07:44:19

Merry Christmas all my lovely LC friends. Hope you have a peaceful day.

WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Tue 25-Dec-12 07:54:15

Merry Christmas everyone!

Merry Christmas losers!

MulledwineGless Tue 25-Dec-12 09:03:03

Merry Christmas to my lovely losers- have a wonderful day whatever you are eating doing

Doshusallie Tue 25-Dec-12 09:17:46

Merry Christmas!!! I am 2 Lindor chocolates and 2 buck's fizz down and feeling no pain!! Hurrah!!! grin grin grin

EwanHoHoHozami Tue 25-Dec-12 11:22:34

Happy Christmas my ever-slimming losers! All going according to plan so far. Venison smells amazing and I'm eyeing up the Rioja and twiglets

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Tue 25-Dec-12 12:57:01

Happy Christmas lovely people grin

Champagne is going down very nicely here. Scrambled eggs with smoked salmon for brunch, and I'm just going into the kitchen to start cooking stuff for later.


ilovemyteddy Tue 25-Dec-12 14:54:02

Merry Christmas everyone! I've hurt my arse falling off the wagon... grin

caramelwaffle Tue 25-Dec-12 15:15:16

Merry Christmas losers grin

The salmon and parma ham went down nicely however I am still 8 parts Prosecco 2 parts food grin

Have a great day everyone x

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Tue 25-Dec-12 15:31:57

I have a very sore arse, ilovemyteddy ... blush

ViperInTheManger Tue 25-Dec-12 19:13:36

Happy Christmas everybody! smile

The outrageous and very deliberate cheating is going well but to be honest it's not as wonderful as I'd hoped. I think I'll be quite happy to get straight back on the wagon.

Extra dry Prosecco is very, very nice though.

Happy Christmas one and all! <hic> grin

Good day here. I will gloss over the roast potatoes, pudding, etc. Will just say I am looking forward to Bootcamp on the 7 Jan. So full.

No DH and DS you can't both win at the board game. Arrgghhh. Will put my grin hat back on.

vnmum Tue 25-Dec-12 22:07:58

Happy christmas all!

At my parents since the 23rd and there have minimal low carb options. They even got fat free yogurt instead of full fat and managed to find double cream light from somewhere! They do know we low carb as we have discussed it with them plenty of times but they just don't accomodate us. I am expecting a big gain but we are home tomorrow night so will be back on strict bootcamp from thursday. I feel so crap from all the carbs.

EwanHoHoHozami Tue 25-Dec-12 22:12:44

<runs after wagon>

The spuds were not very nice at all, my teeth are rotting from all the sugar and my guts hate me!

(Rioja was splendid however)

Doshusallie Tue 25-Dec-12 22:47:39

3 puddings, quality street, bread sauce, more chocolate, baileys, loads and loads of booze.... Am extremely full. Back on wagon tomorrow, been fun though. One day of gluttony and sugar, can't do any harm....(famous last words).....


WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Tue 25-Dec-12 23:03:02

Mince pies were amazing, chocolate cake quite nice, but both tooth-achingly sweet. Had planned to have roast potatoes but actually didn't fancy them at the time. Back to normalish tomorrow - will avoid carby things but not going to hold back on dairy with all the fab cheeses etc. I've made some flax crackers too so will have some of those.

Vnmum my mum got out some half fat extra thick cream to go with the puddings - what on earth was the point!

We have another Christmas meal with dp's parents on 27th where I might be derailed out of politeness but we'll see

Cracks Whip and drives the wagon fast

I'm now about to collect my reward for being so good the last 6 months am waiting outside next for sales and buying normal sizes which I never thought was possible

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Wed 26-Dec-12 08:10:18

at 5am THC? wow!! Hope you get some lovely, lovely things.

Happy Boxing Day everyone, I hope everyone had a great day yesterday. We had Xmas morning here opening Santa pressies, had scrambled eggs on croissants, i opened a box of Lindt chocs and had one but it seemed really sweet after the eggs so i was quite happy with the one for a taste unheard of

Then we went to my parents and cooked traditional stuff for a late lunch: turkey and all the trimmings and Xmas pud with cream. There was so much left over we are going back today for a second lunch! I was so full I think I may have been asleep before Ds !! Really enjoyed my day <even though no wine, I was driving so DH could share a massive nip of whisky with my dad>

Hope today is relaxed fun for you all. Or sales madness if that is your thing, I bet there are a few people buying smaller sizes this year grin

ilovemyteddy Wed 26-Dec-12 08:23:28

Two glasses of Cava and one Hotel Chocolat choc plus a teeny weeny portion of trifle - and my guts hate me this morning! But I did eat my own greatly reduced bodyweight in parsnips so I only have myself to blame! And after the aforementioned Cava I was pissed. Lightweight!

Jacaqueen Wed 26-Dec-12 08:36:02

I was a paragon of virtue all day yesterday.

Pâté, cheese and ham for brunch. Roast turkey and trimmings, all made/sourced by me and low carb, for dinner.

So far so good and a bit boring.


The floodgates opened and the carbs flowed. I won't go into detail but suffice to say I feel so bloated. Out of curiosity I weighed myself this morning and in less than 24 hours I have managed to put on 5lbs.

I blame the Lir chocolates that I opened and consumed at 10.30 pm. Why did I not just go to bed?

ilovemyteddy Wed 26-Dec-12 09:06:48

IME as soon as you go back to LC any weight you have put on comes off fairly quickly Jaca so don't beat yourself up. Drink plenty of water today and give yourself a few days to flush it all out!!

catapult that is amazing! Did you find some nice things?

captainmummy Wed 26-Dec-12 10:41:11

xmas didn't get off to a good start; xmas eve breakfst - yogurt. Then went for a drink at lunchtime and pub had no low-carb options, so didn't eat. Carried on withthe wine tho, until about 7pm, when I had a chinese.
Was a little hungover yesterday, cooking the humungous turkey, and that was the only meal on xmas day- did sneak a bit of stuffing, tiny bit xmas pud, and a lot of the fresh fruitsalad, which was yumbilious with cream! Everything else low-carb, No chocs even. Bit of sparkling wine.
Today I am finishing off the fruit salad with greek yog, then back on it. Weighed this morning and STS!

Hope you all had a great time.

Yup quite a bit trousers /jeans 14 to fit now grin ) and 12 which can do up but to tight to be comfy and muffin top not good but they will fit by September

And some 14/16 tops ( Largs norks)

But I never shopped for me like this today don't think anything in next would have fit me 6 /7 months ago

I was a good 22/24

I quite enjoyed the peace and quiet from dc and chance read

ilovemyteddy Wed 26-Dec-12 16:24:00

It's lovely to go into 'normal' shops and get clothes that fit, isn't it THC?

I've spent a fortune on clothes this year (stay away from the S&B thread if you don't want to do the same!) DH bought me a fab jumper for Christmas which I thought looked too small, but which fitted perfectly. I still think of myself as the size I was a year ago.

I donate my old clothes to the Salvation Army. They send you letters telling you how much they have made from your donations, which is cool. I need to have another wardrobe cull in the New Year. And I need to stay away from the Sales!

WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Wed 26-Dec-12 16:31:55

Hope fun is being had by all.

Ugh gut is not thanking me for the carbs yesterday. Not so muh pain, but everything is rather <ahem> loose. Have eaten well today so hopefully this won't last

DolomitesDonkey Wed 26-Dec-12 19:01:46

Can we have a "carb bloat" competition?

3 days on the carbs and an impressive 8lb gain. shock

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Wed 26-Dec-12 19:23:15

I weighed on Monday morning (was that Xmas eve? It's all blurring into one!) before the reins came off and had STS as last week. I may have to weigh tomorrow for the morbid curiosity value!! Had basically a full Xmas dinner again today at my folks, minus a few garnishes, as we had so much left over from yesterday. No Xmas pud, had mince pies instead. And have now just eaten a bag of salt and vinegar chip sticks things. Whoops.

Oh god I have no idea how much carbing I have done. Tomorrow I am back in the game until NYE - we have a wedding reception that night so will see how that goes and my mum's birthday on2nd jan.
I am looking forward to getting back in control though.

catapult wow! I am still size 18/20. Do you have before after pics? I bet they look amazing!

Doshusallie Wed 26-Dec-12 19:52:30

I am not weighing until nye. Weighed Xmas eve and was 9 1 which is great but after yesterday going to give myself at least a week to recover.

Today hasn't been tooooooo bad....lots and lots of bubbly but low carb food all the way apart from some peanuts. Hurray for boxing day buffets.

So nice to be home with just us catching up on Christmas tv. Have lost ds2's rabbit though.... sad. Haven't seen him have you? Beloved ancient toy, very well travelled, but manky....

cathyandclaire Wed 26-Dec-12 23:23:12

Hey Dolomitesdonkey... Me too! 8lb up and I started at 8stone, my body weight is increasing at an exponential rate, if it's 3500 calories per lb, I can't possibly have consumed that much casually overlooks the vast quantities of hotel chocolat, wine and kettle chips devoured
Actually looking forward to a healthier day tomorrow!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Wed 26-Dec-12 23:47:15

Around 5lbs will be additional glycogen stores, I believe - and you can quickly jettison that with a couple of very strict, low carb days.

And, sometimes, for reasons I don't understand, a fall off the wagon can ultimately trigger more weight loss. So all is not lost mes amis!!!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Wed 26-Dec-12 23:49:14

The thing is, you need to enjoy your fall off the wagon. If you aren't enjoying it, then stop. But don't carry on 'cheating' because you have said to yourself that you can. Only do it if its really worth it.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Wed 26-Dec-12 23:49:47

<necks wine and chocolates>

SantasHugandRollintheSnow Thu 27-Dec-12 00:49:23

Hi all. Hope you don't mind me gatecrashing. I read dr briffa's escape the diet trap (in two days!) and am sold on low carb/paleo.

I won't be starting until new year as have so much food in the house I'm not happy to waste but am really looking forward to starting.

Just a quick question, did any of you buy the supplements suggested in the book for the weeks it takes your body to adjust to the change or did you just grin and bear it? Also is it a lot more expensive? hopes not

Hello! I didn't buy the supplements in the book but do take a vitamin tablet. I think it overall ends up not being more expensive nas the extra I spend on meat for example is no longer being spent on rubbish foods and snacky carbohydrate things or fizzy drinks etc... If you have a slow cooker than cheap cuts of meat are perfect too.

EwanHoHoHozami Thu 27-Dec-12 08:31:34

Welcome along SantasHug the Briffa book was a real 'ping' moment for me too. Regarding cost, we're on a tight budget here so I've been keeping a note of the cheap low-carb recipes that have worked out well and keep threatening and thusfar failing to put them up onto a blog. for me it's also a matter of buying good meat and fish when they are on offer and freezing them. Lidl is also amazing for this way of eating if you have one near you.

Wild low-carb hypocrisy in this house yesterday. I humpfed at DH for putting onions instead of shallots in the sprout curry and then proceeded to snarf half a dozen Ferrero Rocher blush

Lavendersbluedillydilly1969 Thu 27-Dec-12 08:50:49

Hello all hope everyone had a brilliant Christmas.
Have eaten tons of chocolate, Christmas pud and other carby treats over the last few days, all washed down with lots of fizzy pink and pints of baileys on ice.
Am apparently half a stone up this morning so will be strict for a couple of days now as feel very bloated and yuck.

SantasHugandRollintheSnow Thu 27-Dec-12 10:51:01

Thanks smile. I'm going to plan a typical weeks food and also do more research as I need to feel prepared.

Is it worth me reading through this whole thread for meal ideas or are there any threads/websites you would recommend?

Dh and I will be low carbing but my two ds won't (age 4 and 8months) but luckily there are plenty of carb snacks I don't like etc. I haven't weighed yet, that comes in the new year - I'm so nervous. Do you all say your weight here?

cathyandclaire Thu 27-Dec-12 11:24:59

Hi There Santa! Just thought I'd say welcome! Don't be nervous, you only have to put your weight on the spreadsheet if you want to. Lots of people put an amount...say 100lb as their starting point and just count down from there. But we're all sorts of heights, shapes and sizes on here, so there's definitely no judging going on. I found the thread (and there's a recipe thread on here somewhere too, I'll see if I can find it) brilliant for food ideas. The first week is the most tricky but once you get in the swing of it, you really don't miss the carbs well, apart from the wine and chocolate

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Thu 27-Dec-12 11:26:15

Hi santas welcome to the low carb world! Hope you enjoy it here with us. We have a spreadsheet where we record our weight every Monday (or whatever day suits you best) each week if you want.

You will also find veg carb counts on another tab on this spreadsheet.

We are chilling these 2 weeks on this thread but bootcamp starts again in earnest on 7 jan. there is also a specific bootcamp recipe thread too.

cathyandclaire Thu 27-Dec-12 11:26:32
Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Thu 27-Dec-12 11:32:16

<Waves to ddonkey and biwi>

Am doing my usual, forgetting half my post. Meant to say, Weighed this morning too, one pound up from Monday so not too bad. But today could be evil as I slept badly and have to cope with over tired DS while DH is skiving under a desk probably playing on his new ipad at work <eyes up leftover Lindt and mince pies>

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Thu 27-Dec-12 11:34:18

And waves to ewan that made me snort into my coffee!!

HumphreyCobbler Thu 27-Dec-12 11:40:34

Oh lord, two days of eating carbs and I am
1)craving more and waking up in a bad mood that is only assuaged by carb intake
2)substantially bloated
3)anticipating carb withdrawal when I go back on the plan tomorrow

DolomitesDonkey Thu 27-Dec-12 12:01:47

Well this morning because I wanted to torture myself further I jumped on the scales and was MESMERISED by a further nearly 2lb gain since my last post! shock Tbf it was pre-wee and pre-poo but even so...

I have started throwing stuff in the bin. It's not good for or my husband and I certainly don't want my children eating this crap.

I will finish the homemade Bailey's on NYE, but we will go for a paleo friendly dinner - mussels?

SantasHugandRollintheSnow Thu 27-Dec-12 12:48:47

Thank you all, I will certainly join the spreadsheet, it will be good for me to be accountable.

I will have a read of the threads but have done my online food shop for delivery Monday, full of meat, veg and berries. Full fat milk, yogurt and actual butter. Only "carbs" (not including fruit and veg) is bread, cereal, cereal bars and biscuits which are all for ds1 and his lunch box. We have pasta and rice I can use up for accompaniments to my and dh paleo dinners for him.

I'm really looking forward to this but also so worried I won't stick to it. I'm a real chocoholic and crave sugar so badly but that's another big reason to do this.

SantasHugandRollintheSnow Thu 27-Dec-12 12:52:21

I've added the spreadsheet to my home screen. I will be changing back to my usual username which is HugandRoll before new year. Do I add myself and my details or do I post here?

WillieWagglingRoundTheXmasTree Thu 27-Dec-12 13:17:00

Santa welcome!

Feel free to add yourself to the spreadsheet, or hang on until next week when we'll start gearing up for the bootcamp starting 7th January and I'll take care of it

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Thu 27-Dec-12 13:31:15

santa the "carb flu" for a few days is not nice, but if you keep on plan you will hopefully find your cravings subside quite quickly. I now crave scrambled eggs when I wake up! grin

caramelwaffle Thu 27-Dec-12 13:44:05

A miracle, a miracle I tell you, I have only put on 1.2 lb.

Welcome Santa

NewStartSameStory Thu 27-Dec-12 13:54:23

<Tiptoes in quietly>
I have actually lost weight over christmas. Weighed after 1 cup of coffee 500ml of water and scrambled eggs for breakfast too. down to 73kg. And i have the problem that i am shrinking out of my "i'll keep because i want to fit them clothes" faster then i realise that they fit. And need to go bra shopping for a smaller bra shock

on the down side my eating is crap, actually better describe that as not eating is crap. I have been living off scrambled eggs and forgetting to eat so munching of chocolate and biscuits but not really much of that as just can't face it. needles to say the migraines are back and i feel like shit. can't wait for Jan for the big stick to remind me to eat although willbe setting alarms on my phone for meal times for the rest of the time until then.

Hope you have had reasonable christmases. Sorry haven't caught up on the thread keeping far too busy atm. Onwards and downwards!!!

HugAndRoll Thu 27-Dec-12 15:08:39

Ill add myself as starting next week rather than 7th if that's ok. I'm back to my non Christmassy name now smile

HugAndRoll Thu 27-Dec-12 15:28:41

Ok added myself but its gone to the bottom and as I'm on my phone I'm struggling to sort sorry.

Doshusallie Thu 27-Dec-12 16:05:39

Welcome all newbies!!!

Weighed this morning (despite professing to wait till next week) and have gained 3 pounds but that was after breakfast and water and tea and coffee.

Have been amazed at how I am struggling to walk past the lindors after 2 days of indulgence whereas usually I don't bat an eyelid....

Luckily we are a house full of ham, cheese, salad, smoked salmon and cold meats, pates a low carber's dream. Am eating loads, but all low carb so fingers crossed.

Doshusallie Thu 27-Dec-12 17:03:30

Brandy clotted cream spooned straight from tub into mouth whilst standing at fridge anyone? [slattern]

EwanHoHoHozami Thu 27-Dec-12 17:39:47

oof Dosh that sounds like heaven.

Doshusallie Thu 27-Dec-12 17:44:14

It's up there Ewan - and is rescuing me from trifle and lindors.

ViperInTheManger Thu 27-Dec-12 17:51:21

Well I'm so far off the wagon now I think you'll have to lasso me and haul me back on when the time comes!

I have to say though, these "sinful" things don't taste as good as I expected them to and I am feeling very bloated and sluggish so I'm hoping that clambering back on may not be too hard.

Have friends here for a dinner party on NYE, one friend bringing starters and another bringing dessert but that will be the last fling!

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Thu 27-Dec-12 19:09:07

It's the mince pies that are getting me ... Just finished the last 2 from the packet today, I am NOT buying any more, even if they are reduced to 10p!!

sybilfaulty Thu 27-Dec-12 19:29:00

I've been a bit better today, although I did pick at the children's chips and ate the breadcrumbs from my scotch egg at lunch time.

All mincers gone here, so no temptation on that front. MIL gone too, which means I can rest easy. She is SUCH hard work. I am generally against MIL bashing, but she is worse than my 4 year old. At least he brings his plate over to the dishwasher and tries to be a bit helpful. She really does just sit there and wait for the next meal / drink / cuppa to appear. Doesn't rise til 10, doesn't read the children stories or really engage with them at all. She's now said she is going to be alone for NYE which has made DH feel guilty. This is her first year without my wonderful FIL, which makes me feel we should invite her back. I do like spendning NYE on the sofa though, drinking wine with DH and watching rubbish telly. She would put the brakes on that though.

Thoughts? Should I do the decent thing and invite again or have I done my duty?

Sorry girls, this turned into a bit of a ramble, but any advice / input gratefully received smile.

Doshusallie Thu 27-Dec-12 20:21:14

Hi Sybil. Am extremely lucky in the mil dept myself. She is great with the dc and gets up with them most mornings she is here, and let's us lie in. She often babysits. She cooks, makes tea, clears up, and is generally good company, I love her a lot. Sorry I appreciate this isn'y helping but am sorry yours is such a pain. Even with her being lovely, it can get a bit much having someone in the house all the time hovering and she talks incessantly, so it was quite nice when she went home this morning after arriving Sunday. I found out she was alone for nye and asked dh if we should have her back here (meaning we would cancel our plans) and he poo pooed it....she is now going somewhere else so I feel a bit less guilty. My view is that you have probably done your bit haven't you? Have the nye YOU want.

So it transpires that brandy clotted cream is actually 12gs per 100ml.....Ah Madge. sad. Tastes amaze balls though....

sybilfaulty Thu 27-Dec-12 20:31:55

Thanks Dosh.

I do try to muster every bit of charity I can, but not easy. She spent most of yesterday lying on her bed with the cat reading the Telegraph hmm. Only surfaced to demand refreshments.

I want to have done my bit but equally, for the sake of one night, I don't want her to be alone and miserable.

Thank god for my own wonderful mum, who, whilst alone, is never miserable. She is happy with her own company as with others. Plus if she were here she'd babysit and we'd have to go out! HATE going out at NYE.

RIght, teeth for kids and bed smile

vnmum Thu 27-Dec-12 23:15:23

willie we did laugh and take the Mick abit about the half fat double cream grin
Parents also gave us a big tin of biscuits, and a yard of jaffa cakes each! They know we don't eat carbs! the thing is, I feel guilty if I don't eat something someone has given me as a gift but I just can't handle anymore carbs.
I have done a 'get me by' shop until after new year. it has a few jar sauces for easiness but then it will be strict from then on.

I am actually reading zoe harcombe at the moment and it would appear I have issues with Candida and food intolerance so I am thinking of giving her diet a try in the new year. it isn't as strict as bootcamp but gets rave reviews and I am willing to give it a go to see if a change will shake my body up.

I haven't hit the sales. I looked on next for a jacket I really wanted but they didn't have my size left so didn't bother after that.

Doshusallie Fri 28-Dec-12 08:34:36

morning losers.

Vnmum I started on this WOE doing Harcombe, as a girl at work was doing it and had lost 2 stone on it. It is very doable, I also bought the recipe book and I agree with lots of her theories. I was also in the Candida camp. But it wasn't until I cut out the porridge in the morning etc that I got to the weight I wanted. In fact I just STS. It had all the benefits of no cravings, feeling fuller for longer, better skin, hair, sleep etc though.

MulledwineGless Fri 28-Dec-12 09:52:16

Morning all
Have got a horrible cold and feeling sorry for myself as this is my 3 days off to do nice things with DC.
DH is off to London to watch the darts with his mates so I am all alone for 36 hours! I feel a DVD/duvet day here with maybe soft play for them to run off some energy.

I have fallen off the wagon completely and feel dreadful. My stomach is bloated and skin dreadful.
Back on it today with a vengeance - I feel so much better for it and am bouncing around the weight loss threads trying to convert everyone grin
Happy Friday everyone
I might just surf the sales from the sofa

HumphreyCobbler Fri 28-Dec-12 11:12:25

Hello all. I am back on the wagon today too. Can't bear to eat any more crap, my face is puffy and I have not been drinking enough water.

I feel better already though smile

Jacaqueen Fri 28-Dec-12 11:48:47

Right that's it!


I have drawn the line in the sand.
The mindless carb consumption is stopping NOW.
It is time to step away from the chocs, kettle crisps, ice cream, cheese straws, millionaire cheesecake etc. It's not big and it's not clever.

I was sitting there last night shovelling in crap like it was some sort of endurance test. Why?

I had eaten low carb all day and Dinner was a lovely goats cheese and shallot starter followed by bacon, avocado and Stilton salad. I then had a little chocolate pot made with clotted cream, dark choc and mixed spices. Followed by a home made low carb Baileys. Not exactly deprivation is it? So why do I feel the need to spoil it all by getting out the crap carbs around 9pm.

Well no more. The fridge is still well stocked with cheese, pâté, cold meats. I have made a pot of broccoli cauliflower and Stilton soup and just had scrambled eggs and smoked salmon for brunch. I have 'only' put on 5lbs, but I want them off NOW.

I was laughing at the low carb hypocrisy comment Ewan. I was in a right state trying to decide if I should glaze the ham with my usual mix which contains honey and brown sugar, or if I should try and come up with a low carb alternative. Spent ages looking on line for a recipe that didn't contain artificial sweetners but eventually gave up and decided to stick with my traditional one.
A few hours later I was mainlining carbs in the form of quality street and savoury cheese snack mix. The glaze on the ham was the least of it.

The weather is not helping either. I need to get myself and the boys out into the fresh air for some exercise but the horizontal rain is putting me off. Might go to the panto later but good tickets are going to cost about £120 for the 4 of us and neither DH or the boys are that bothered about going.

Roll on the 7th Jan.

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Fri 28-Dec-12 14:33:41

mulledwinegless I too have woken up with a lousy cold and am feeling rough. Had to go to work this morning but only for 3 hours thank goodness. Now home and cuddled under a blanket feeling very meh. Ds is fed up as there are no wee chums around today to play with and I'm not up to much entertaining. Got "the smurfs" on the telly in desperation.

Is it a spooky coincidence that the cold virus has taken hold just when I have caved to carb consumption <theme from tales of the unexpected> I think not ..... hmm

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Fri 28-Dec-12 14:35:50

vnmum can you use the biscuits as a first foot gift for Hogmanay?

MulledwineGless Fri 28-Dec-12 14:50:10

Toomuch- I don't think so either. Have succumbed and brought them tithe hell that is soft play as they were going stir crazy. Hoping O'neil wear them out so I can catch up on merlin later wink

Ilovemyteddy Fri 28-Dec-12 15:24:11

Okay I'm going to sound like Smuggy McSmug from Smugville after all the falling off the wagon...

I've always wanted to wear Gap khakis but could never fit into them. This time last year I went to the sales and couldn't even fit into the size 18. Today I went to the sales and got a pair in a size 12.

I am smile and shock. I've cheated a bit this week and am feeling bleugh. Looking forward to getting back to LC on Monday. Only 2lbs on though so not too bad - although I am now eating stollen and drinking coffee!

halfthesize Fri 28-Dec-12 16:37:30

Eve loosers and welcome newbies. I hope everyone had a great Christmassmile

Well I have had 4 days of eating and drinking way too muchblush so after getting totm today decided to weigh myself <still crying in a corner> I have gained 5lbs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trying to be good till NYE but then yet another 2 days of celebrations begin, all my clothes feel tight, my tummy is bloated, have got 2 spots and am so sluggishsad Never again do I eat that many carbs they just dont agree with me!

Well done Teddy thats great re the jeansgrin

Toomuchturkeyatendofthedinner Fri 28-Dec-12 17:16:02

ilovemyteddy well done! Tis lovely to get into clothes.

HumphreyCobbler Fri 28-Dec-12 17:16:17

5lbs will soon go