What do you think the weight of this woman is in both pictures?

(61 Posts)
nappyaddict Mon 26-Nov-12 10:23:22

She is 5 foot 4 inches.


goralka Mon 26-Nov-12 10:24:55

about 10 stone?

nappyaddict Mon 26-Nov-12 10:26:42

Which picture?

goralka Mon 26-Nov-12 10:29:13

oh right i see she is more exercised in the right hand pic.
I imagine that in the right hand pic she is slightly heavier.

ChippingInLovesAutumn Mon 26-Nov-12 10:29:29

8.5 in the first one and 8 in the second?

She looks healthier in the second (hair, skin tone etc) - maybe the same weight as she appears to have a bit more muscle and a little bit less 'fat' (around her hips).

Is it you and why do you ask?

goralka Mon 26-Nov-12 10:29:57

10 stone in the right hand pic then.

Same as chipping

SorrelForbes Mon 26-Nov-12 10:33:35

About 8st, 7lb in both?

MirandaWest Mon 26-Nov-12 10:34:08

I'm 5 foot 4 and weigh about 9 stone and am less toned. Pretty sure she weighs less than I do. About 8 st 10 in first and 8 st 7 in second maybe?

digerd Mon 26-Nov-12 10:34:38

8.5 stone tops

Creamtea1 Mon 26-Nov-12 10:44:20

8.5 st in left hand pic and a few pounds more in right hand more muscly pic
She looks good in both!

dinkystinky Mon 26-Nov-12 10:45:52

Just below 9 stone I reckon (in both)?

nappyaddict Mon 26-Nov-12 11:33:51

I think most of you will be shocked that she is over 9 stone in both.

9 stone 5 on the left
10 stone 2 on the right

Just the inspiration and motivation I need to throw away the scales and get the camera and measuring tape out!

Mintyy Mon 26-Nov-12 11:42:40

That's really interesting. I would have guess around 8 stone 7 for both.

goralka Mon 26-Nov-12 11:50:17

I am not surprised, she looks 'well fit' and muscle is heavy. She has inspired me to take some excercise!

I would also have guessed heavier in the second. She looks skinny-fat in the first, not at all toned.

ChippingInLovesAutumn Mon 26-Nov-12 12:11:50


Is she now left or right?

goralka Mon 26-Nov-12 12:25:05

we want to know her exercise regime...

Creamtea1 Mon 26-Nov-12 14:30:21

I'm sorry but how can you say she looks 'skinny fat' in the first!! She looks very slim in both, great in both. And wtf is skinny fat anyway? Apart from being the reason people say 'I just want to get 9 stone' and then when they get there it becomes 'maybe just 8 and a half' and then 8 and a half becomes 8 and becomes an eating disorder.

ISeeThreadPeople Mon 26-Nov-12 14:35:05

Scales tell you sod all really. They're a general measure.

I look pretty similar to the woman linked (right hand pic) and I weigh 8st 4lbs. I am very slightly shorter than her but reckon we probably wear the same clothes size despite the difference in weight. I have possibly more developed shoulders/arms than her and marginally slimmer legs but more defined quads. Not too different though tbh.

FellatioNelson Mon 26-Nov-12 14:40:41

I was going to guess at 8.5 and 8.0 as well.

What is surprising to me is that I am just under 5'3" and when I was 9.12 I looked TONS fatter than her. Like, tons! More than just 12 pounds or less, yet I'm only an inch and a bit shorter.

I think it's so much to do with proportion, shape, frame size, leg length, muscle tone, all that stuff.

A friend of mine recently tried some new dresses of mine on, which were all a size 12. She is not very slim but she is certainly slimmer than me. She went shock at me when she saw they were size 12s, thinking I must be a 14 at the very least, and a 16 on a bad day.

So imagine her utter despair, bewilderment and wounded indignation when she could not get my dresses done up across her back - and my boobs are bigger than hers!

She is just obviously has a much larger frame than me, and I have a small rib cage and waist. But even on the hips they were snug on her, and yet her hips give the impression of looking slimmer than mine.

Description of skinny fat on this blog

DameEnidsOrange Mon 26-Nov-12 14:45:29

Totally agree with Fellatio that weight is deceptive.

A friend weighs exactly the same as me, she is 6 inches shorter than me, at least. So you'd think she was way bigger than me but actually I cannot squeeze into her clothes 'snot fair

ChippingInLovesAutumn Mon 26-Nov-12 14:48:55

FN - you are a really lovely person, but please tell me that even you allowed yourself a tiny <snurk> at her indignation!! It is unfair that you look bigger than you are!

Even when I was much lighter/thinner/smaller (7.5 stone) I looked bigger than that, I think it's the shape of my face and having boobs (they were a nice c cup in those days <sigh>). Now I just look huge - I am overweight, but I look much bigger than people would think I would look if only told my height and weight.

Creamtea1 Mon 26-Nov-12 14:53:50

Still rather be skinny fat than fat fat

Mintyy Mon 26-Nov-12 14:55:32

Oh, how fascinating creamtea. And what does fat fat constitute then?

Cynner Mon 26-Nov-12 14:58:51

I am crap at weight guessing..but she is adorable in both pics..lucky her!

FellatioNelson Mon 26-Nov-12 15:00:18

oh I snuuuuuurked Chipping, I SO fucking snurked.

the next time I saw her she was on a really strict diet! I had to laugh a bit inside - I knew she would be! I can just imagine her telling her DH over dinner that night that if she was fatter than me she was never going to eat again! grin

I had similar this weekend Fellatio, a girl was bitching talking about someone she knows who is a size 20, then turned to me and said, 'no offence, you look quite good for it.'... I'm a 12/14 hmm Way to shatter my self esteem you knob grin (her, not you!)

FellatioNelson Mon 26-Nov-12 15:10:43

oh yes, I have a few of those in my time scented. hmm

FellatioNelson Mon 26-Nov-12 15:10:56

have had, sorry.

Creamtea1 Mon 26-Nov-12 16:00:23

Well seeing as apparently the girl in the picture is skinny fat on the left, then I presume fat fat is anything over a stone heavier? And surely anyone who is trying to lose weight wants to be skinny fat not fat fat otherwise why be trying to lose weight?

nappyaddict Mon 26-Nov-12 19:35:24

She's the right hand picture now. Her way of eating is low carb (you still eat carbs but you get them mostly from veg), high fat and high protein. She does mostly barbell training with deadlifts but also squats, overhead presses, and bench presses. She is proof that you can do strength training without getting really bulked up.

Fellatio The reason she looks slim at that height and weight is because when you strength train with very heavy weights for low numbers of repetitions, you build dense, tight muscle and muscle is much heavier than fat. It's the only way to get a figure that is toned, sculpted and defined. No amount of running, cycling, swimming, cross training, dancing or lifting small weights with lots of reps will do that in the same way.

Skinny fat is where you are a normal BMI, and normal site, but have high percentage of body fat. It's often less healthy than being slightly overweight (fat fat?) as the fat is often visceral fat, around the organs, which is not so healthy as on e.g. the thighs.

Nappy, I second what you say re strength training, I get so irritated by women banging on about not wanting to bulk up, hence wasting their time waving 2kg dumbells around in the gym. I lift heavy weights, low reps regularly, I am a size 8, I lost 2st in 7 months after 3rd DC stopped bf two years ago - pics on my profile (put there for s&b thread)...bulky and masculine? The other bonus about having higher muscle mass is you get to eat lots without putting on weight grin!

Girl in pics looks great but I would definitely have said heavier in pic 2 as well.

nappyaddict Wed 28-Nov-12 15:24:27

Sleepwhenidie Do you do weights at home or do you go to a gym?

I go to the gym 2-3 times a week, do weights and interval training but have a trx for when i am away or can't get there. Also I kickbox 2-3 times a week (run if away from home). How about you?

merlottits Wed 28-Nov-12 17:43:37

I would have guessed both pictures were around 10 stone.
I think most women 'under' guess weight. And also lie about their weight. The amount of times someone of approx 16-18 stone has told me they weigh 'about' 12 stone smile

At 5ft 8 and size 10 I have weighed 10.5 stone (through lots of exercise). People seem surprised as if anything over 9.5 stone is impossible to look ladylike.

TalkinPeace2 Wed 28-Nov-12 19:49:13

my guess would have been nine stone in both
knowing that i'm an inch taller and that weight

and yes, bodypump and yoga only make you bulk up if you do high weight low rep

No talkin, that is mine and nappy's point - high weight low rep will not make you bulk up.

TalkinPeace2 Wed 28-Nov-12 20:36:50

its what the guys at the gym do to tear their muscles so they bulk
and by high I mean over 30kg total

bodypump with 6kg on each end is normal for the ladies at my gym
and yoga - holding the arm balances for long periods can cause bulking

I don't think the pictures look different and I'd have put her about 8 stone 7 and about a size 8.

Talkin, guys bulk up because they have high levels of testosterone that women don't - even then they actually find it really hard to do that without steroids and/or huge amounts of protein in their diet.

I regularly bench press 34kg, sets of 8-10 reps - pic of me on my profile shows my arms...the "bulking" theory is rubbish.

TalkinPeace2 Wed 28-Nov-12 21:46:45

ooh, that will upset the muscle boys!
then again, the excess wiry look that some of my friends have (think Madonna) aint pretty either :-)

love that dress BTW

Thank you smile, now that I have found shoes to go with it (none of those pictured), I shall be wearing it for my 40th.

I think the wiry thing comes with age, lots of strong yoga and v low body fat, the latter is definitely not a problem I have thanks to too much wine, butter and chocolate

hmc Wed 28-Nov-12 22:23:17

Sleepwhen - lifting dumb bells of just 3 - 5kg each for low reps has made me bulk up. I have biceps bigger than a lot of fellas, so what's going on with me then precisely?

TellMeLater Wed 28-Nov-12 22:39:49

I think some of the difference is that some people develop muscle much quicker than others. It takes me bloody ages to build muscles even tiny ones.

I would have said, given her height, that she was around 8 1/2 stone in both photos - her abs look much more toned on the right but the rest of her looks about the same.

nappyaddict Thu 29-Nov-12 00:10:23


Do you go to a mixed gym or ladies only? I want to join a gym but am worried about being amongst a load of blokes on steroids wondering what the hell a woman is doing at their end of the gym!

Nappy, the gym I go to is mixed, local authority one. Not full of meat head types, which i know some gyms are, but I am pretty much always the only woman in the free weights section where I do 90% of my workout. Always good to see other women there but the guys are friendly enough, I just stick my headphones in and get on with it regardless grin

Hmc, what have you been doing exercise and diet wise? Even though tellmelater is right and of course some people build muscle more easily than others, I really struggle to believe you have bulked up doing low weights, low reps confused!

Nappy, if you are interested, here is a thread started earlier this year with lots of mn weight training enthusiasts/wannabe enthusiasts chatting, maybe its time for its revival!

nappyaddict Thu 29-Nov-12 20:40:05

Thanks sleepwhenidie

I've never done weight training before but I would like to start. How did you get into it? Did someone at the gym show you how to do it correctly? I imagine you could do yourself an injury if you just started doing it by yourself?

TalkinPeace2 Thu 29-Nov-12 20:54:04

BodyPump :-)
excellent way to learn the basics

digerd Thu 29-Nov-12 21:24:57

Women lifting heavy objects can cause prolapse of the womb, and other internal organs - my female Gyny said that was the reason for my prolapse in my early 40s. What had I done? Just carried small block paving bricks, one in each hand. But then I am delicately built and never had much muscle in my arms/shoulders - unlike my sister who was born with them.

digerd I'm sorry to hear about your prolapse. I think many toddlers are heavier than a small paving block though, and most women carry them with no issues at all, unless they have previous pelvic floor issues.

rusmum Thu 29-Nov-12 22:24:46

8.5 stone and 8 stone?

Nappy - body pump class is good, but by far the best way to start IMO is to get a personal trainer, (or at least someone who you are sure knows what they are doing) even if only for one or two sessions (most PT's will give you a free "taster" class if you ask them). He or she can show you exercises best for your goals and ensure you know the correct technique. Would that be possible?

hmc Fri 30-Nov-12 15:48:49

Exercise and diet wise - I eat a healthy diet, am normal weight (BMI 24) and run 3 / 4 times per week. I lift 2-3kgs for perhaps 24 reps a couple of times a week and have noticeably big biceps. Fact. You might struggle to believe it but it is true.

hmc Fri 30-Nov-12 15:50:27

Although I rather like what has happened to my shoulders (I do reps to exerise other arm muscles)

TalkinPeace2 Fri 30-Nov-12 18:42:30

I pay so much for my gym that I avoid paying for the trainers!
The current BodyBalance has a small stack of pressups hidden in it - and combat friends have commented that sun salutations are a FAB way to build upper body strength without bulking

I do pump once a week, just to remind my muscles that there is life beyond yoga!

nappyaddict Fri 30-Nov-12 21:04:36

There is a local personal trainer that is charging £10 an hour for new clients until the end of Jan. Don't know how much he charges after that.

sleepwhenidie How much are the PTs at your LA gym?

Hi nappy, they are approx £40 ph so £10 is a great deal! I would definitely get a couple of sessions now if you can, then maybe a follow up one in Jan to review your progress.

I don't use a PT anymore, but I did for a while a few years ago. I think once you get used to weight training you can feel if you are doing it correctly, the important stuff is keeping your core stable, knees don't go beyond toes during squats/lunges. Stop your reps when you feel you are losing good form. There are plenty of great websites to show you new exercises when you want to get specific results or just change things about over time.

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