Week 9 - Little Black Dress Low Carb Bootcamp - not long to go now ...

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BIWI Mon 26-Nov-12 08:09:54


And what a truly horrible morning it is.

Here is the spreadsheet to confess all

Let's see what we can do in the next/last two weeks. A couple of strict weeks to finish Bootcamp and hopefully we can shift some serious pounds.

Ugh, terrible week food wise. Excellent restaurant on saturday night, 3 hours of Michelin starred food, 9 tasting courses with wine pairings does not make a good low carb feast..... Fortunately we dont eat there often wink

Also fell spectacularly off the wagon last week due to totm and gave in to the kids sweets in the fridge..... Am giving myself til tomorrow to improve the figures before weighing in.

Well done to everyone who has lost!

BIWI Mon 26-Nov-12 08:24:13

We went to a new restaurant last night, just round the corner from us - so walking distance, which is always good. A Korean barbecue restaurant. But so much sugar in the food! I thought marinated chicken on the grill would be safe, but by the time it was cooked, it was crusty on the outside and the crust was from sugar.

Ah well.

A couple of super strict days for me, to hopefully undo the damage of this weekend.

I haven't been drinking enough water, so will also have to remedy that.

halfthesize Mon 26-Nov-12 08:36:42

Morning All, BIWI thanks for new thread.

I had a bad day yesterday, anniversary and nephews birthday party, means bad bad food and bubbly[shame] Will be super strict for the rest of this week as feel like I have just been sts for weeks, my own fault really as keep having social stuff involving food and wine!!

Hope everyone has a good day and weigh ins go well, I am 1lb upsad

Jacaqueen Mon 26-Nov-12 08:38:16

Haven 't been on here much for the last few days. I will have to go back and catch up with last weeks thread.

I am a sts this week but I will wait and update tomorrow just incase the scales decide to be kind.

A couple of super strict weeks are exactly what I need before the Christmas festivities really kick in.

BIWI Mon 26-Nov-12 08:40:18

I haven't been near the scales this morning, halfthesize - I have claimed last week's mid-week weigh-in for this week! No point getting on the scales today as I know the results won't be good.

I seem to have ended up with Thursday being my weigh-in day, so will leave it until then to weigh and hopefully will at least be back to where I was last week.

When I went shopping yesterday, and tried the dress on again, I was confronted with the sight of myself in a full-length mirror (don't have one at home), and forced to realise that I definitely have to lose at least half a stone more - and very probably more than that.

So I'm focusing on 9 stone now as my next target.

Lavendersbluedillydilly1969 Mon 26-Nov-12 08:41:09

Weighed in this morning at 9 stone 12 so am very very pleased. I have been trying to get back under 10 stone for a good 18 months. It's my TOTM too and no puffy ankles or bloating so that's all good.

I have noticed though that my water consumption has really dropped off this last week or too so need to address that. Why is so much water necessary? I find it a real pain as I go from bring ok to needing a wee desperately in a second and it can be very embarrassing.

Hope everyone is a loser this week smile.

BIWI Mon 26-Nov-12 08:52:47
Themumsnot Mon 26-Nov-12 09:04:59

Lost another lb which gives me a total loss so far of exactly a stone! And I'd lost half a stone in the three weeks before I started bootcamp so altogether I'm a stone and a half down from my weight in September.
I need to redouble my efforts for the last two weeks and then I plan to carry on until Christmas Eve - my goal was to lose two stone before Christmas - 7lbs in four weeks is doable, right? And then I can take three days off the diet.
Best of all, I got into my size 14 jeans this week - after having had to buy a size 18 pair back in September that is really quite something.
(On the other hand, I didn't get the job I went for last Monday although the interviewer complimented me on my suit, which I couldn't even zip up two months ago.)
Hope everyone else has had a good week and is feeling motivated for the final stretch.

BIWI Mon 26-Nov-12 09:20:31

Great work, Themumsnot! (but sorry you didn't get the job)

toomuchmonthatendofthemoney Mon 26-Nov-12 09:20:36

Well done lavender and mumsnot on your achievements, very inspiring.

I have a sick child this morning and in my sleep deprived haze had already drunk 2 cups warm water and had some yoghurt before I remembered its weigh in day, so will weigh tomorrow.

Fully expecting a gain after my 5 days of Shame, just how bad will find out! Am writing last week off as a blip due to stress and start again today. Lots of water needed, although I too have to do the loo dash dance like lavender

EwanHoozami Mon 26-Nov-12 09:26:23

Astonishing scenes on the Hoozami scales this morning. 1lb down from last Monday which considering the Carbarama on Monday night that led to a 5lb gain by Weds is a ruddy miracle.

So hurricane and others who've had a wee slip-up last week, it's absolutely possible to shift the gain if you get back to being strict right away.

Am off to read the water article as I too need motivation in that department, cheers BIWI

AuntieMaggie Mon 26-Nov-12 10:09:07

I could cry sad 5lbs up...But how can I be the same size but heavier???

I think its a combination of not drinking enough water, and eating carbs when I've been away with work as I couldn't find anything else so its my own fault.

I need some motivation.

Off to newcastle working this week. Have packed my cool box with carrot sticks, celery, pate, dip, cheese, and kabano sausages for my lunches. I know the carrots aren't great carb wise but I thought they were the one thing that would last the week in my coolbox!

I've got nuts in the car if i need them whilst driving,and I've had berries this morning but I'm going to try to bootcamp this week.

I am so fecking angry with myself. I really wanted another stone before xmas.

MsRinky Mon 26-Nov-12 10:11:47

Only half a pound off for me this week. I will weigh again on Friday, which probably signals the end of Bootcamp for me before my festive season kicks in. I will be sticking to plan on all the days I can, however...

I'm away Fri-Mon at a music festival which will involve round the clock drinking. The following weekend has a Michelin 2* feast. Weekend after that has work Christmas meal on Friday, then MrRinky's company do on the Saturday. And the following weekend is Christmas, for which we are away staying with family for a week, then New Year with our booziest friends.

If I can weigh about the same come January 2nd as I do on Friday morning I will be counting that as a major win.

hurricanewyn Mon 26-Nov-12 10:29:32

Thanks Ewan - I'm hoping it's a case of quick on, quick off. Still annoyed with myself though.

B - Fried egg, bacon & a tomato.
L - some kind of salad
D - plaice in a tomato & chorizo sauce. Not sure what veg to have with it yet.

I'll be posting here every day now - I've proved I obv need the group support.

NotAgainAndAgain Mon 26-Nov-12 10:44:27

My weight day seems to move to Tuesdays. Today is my DH birthday - so with all breakfast in bed and singing I had my water before jumping on the scale.
I do not expect much of the show anyway, but for today I will pretend everything goes according to the intentions.
Shall I put a bet on my own loss or I will loose..? confused

EwanHoozami Mon 26-Nov-12 10:51:03

Just realised that I sounded a bit Smuggy McSmug blush

I'm just amazed at how efficient this woe is.

I bought some frozen squid that was on offer yesterday, I've only ever cooked it with linguine before - has anyone got any bright ideas?

Thanks for the link kiwi, just put a jug of water loaded with lemon, mint leaves and cucumber in the fridge - seems to be easier to drink more if it has a hint of taste - will get drinking grin

Sorry kiwi, I meant Biwi - grrr autocorrect. And how come it autocorrects you to something carby?!

toomuchmonthatendofthemoney Mon 26-Nov-12 10:56:28

Not at all smug * ewan* I need all the ra ra support I can get this week! It is a very efficient, but very unforgiving, woe.

You're on your own with the squid I'm afraid wink bleurgh!

BIWI Mon 26-Nov-12 11:35:53


And I don't come from New Zealand either!

jan2013 Mon 26-Nov-12 11:50:17

marking my place. hope your dc is better soon toomuch sad

its a nice day where i live today, although very cold. my weekend went a bit rubbish with me losing a load of money and then a confrontation with dh, im hoping for a more settled week.

marking place - no loss this week for me

sorry to hear about your weekend jan

i have in a moment of madness signed up for a free session with the local outdoor bootcamp fitness group (you know, the kind of thing run by ex-military!). they go all year round in all weathers which is ideal for me as i hate exercising indoors. am terrified though!

jan2013 Mon 26-Nov-12 12:09:45

oh you are so brave! think how utterly amazing you will feel afterwards!

sybilfaulty Mon 26-Nov-12 12:24:45

Well done, WIllie! Hope you survived.

STS for me today. I must focus and try to move in a downwardly direction.

Doshusallie Mon 26-Nov-12 12:24:59

Morning all. Marking place. Yog for Breakfast.

made it to gym. Ran for 10 mins on 6.5, walked uphill for 20, 10 minutes on the crosstrainer on 20. Was a sweat bucket after all that. Then did some arm weights and pilates stomach exercises. I am going to ache tomorrow.

Willie - I have heard those bootcamp exercise things are great - not for me, as I hate exercising outdoors! Enjoy and report back.

Hope VNMum is ok.

Sorry about your weekend Jan - bad time of year for money losing sad

halfthesize Mon 26-Nov-12 12:29:21

Some great weigh inssmile Jan I hope things start looking up for you soon x

That article is really interesting BIWI I know I have not been drinking enough water of late, so its 8 pints a day for me, from now onwink I know what you mean about looking in full length mirror whilst shopping! I had a shock on Friday whilst trying dresses onsad My new target is 8st 5lb, am 8st 10lb today, which is great considering I was 12st 11lbs back in May 2010. grin

Right off now to start batch cooking soup againwink

Ilovemyteddy Mon 26-Nov-12 12:48:41

Only 0.8lb off for me last week. I'm also not drinking enough water. It's too cold! Will try harder this week.

My hour's personal training was good. Sore shoulders and stomach today though. Starting pilates in two weeks. I have a feeling it's gonna hurt!

jan2013 Mon 26-Nov-12 12:57:30

wow halfthesize that is an amazing loss i bet you feel fantastic. ilovemyteddy i used to do pilates and loved it, so relaxing but hard too! never braved the personal training though!

about the money loss... i just hope to God it fell into the right hands and some struggling mum was able to benefit from it and it didn't end up with prats. there was a good £250 in an envelope! stupid me.

BIWI Mon 26-Nov-12 13:02:07

Oh no sad and sorry to hear about your confrontation with your DH as well.

PorkyScratching Mon 26-Nov-12 13:13:58

BIWI I love the articles you share smile always very informative, and as a newbie I am soaking up all the knowledge I can!

I didnt have an exact start weight, but I am roughly 8ish lbs down from where I think I was 2 weeks ago - not a bad start.

halfthesize Mon 26-Nov-12 13:39:47

Thanks Jan, OMG sadis there any chance the envelope will turn up or were you out and about? I hate when I loose things, its so annoying..

Well done pork on loss and teddy

jan2013 Mon 26-Nov-12 13:56:58

phoned tesco as i was there yesterday and its not there, i will have a good look round the car. im not going to worry about it no more and just trust its went to good use... i'll blame dd on that one as she is always opening that particular zip on my bag (of course never my fault for putting it in there lol)

BIWI Mon 26-Nov-12 14:08:21

It's my pleasure, Porky! Glad you are finding them helpful.

caramelwaffle Mon 26-Nov-12 14:17:50

Good morning.

Sorry to hear that jan Hopefully it did go to someone else who really needed it.

Well done on your loss half That is fantastic and inspirational.

Well done porky

willie The outdoor camps are really successful (I prefer indoors)

I've pretty much stayed the same; far too much port, brandy, Prosecco and cake (celebrations) Definitely not enough water.

I had a lovely surprise this week however: I was in a salon the other day and had to de-robe (as it were); they had an extra large, ceiling height mirror there and when I saw my body shape, I was very pleasantly surprised; a different shape regardless of the weight.

Foods are tasting over sweet when I do eat them.

More water and herbal tea. Onwards and downwards everyone!

Doshusallie Mon 26-Nov-12 14:43:45

lunch = 3 egg mushroom omelette, with big green salad with cucumber and mayo - small bit of greek yoghurt to finish the tub.

caramelwaffle Mon 26-Nov-12 15:01:40

Breakfast - herbal tea

Lunch - bunless burger, bacon, coleslaw, cheese and shallots. More tea.

jan2013 Mon 26-Nov-12 15:36:42

caramelwaffle ur name is making me lol thats lovely you are happy with your changed shape - do you do any exercise or was it just from this woe? well done smile

ive made coconut chicken curry for dinner and blended it just a bit so dd can have it so she better better like it!

captainmummy Mon 26-Nov-12 15:42:24

Re mirrors - I usually avoid them (like everyone) but I've noticed that the old love-handles are definitely reduced, and that is something that decades on a low-fat diet couldn't shift! My waist is smaller at this weight than it was when I was lighter, IYSWIM. Sideways-on I'm nearly svelte, and front-on much reduced, even tho in LBs it;s only about 7-8 total.

I did a small fast today,so no breakfast and lunch at 1pm, 1 egg and 1 baconslice. Bit of greek yog (like you doshu to finish the tub)!

vnmum Mon 26-Nov-12 17:06:38

I'M OK Dosh Just really busy with work. I don't have as much time to MN anymore. I was working a night on friday then didn't finish till 3 on saturday. DIdn't eat till tea time saturday as didn't have time at work and by the time I got home it was too close to tea to be having lunch.

I have lost a couple of pounds off the gain from last week but I'm still a couple up on the weight I was before my disastrous week. MY sporadic eating habits aren't helping though as I seem to be fasting lots unintentionally and I don't think it is having that many advantages. I think I need to make sure I eat breakfast and also drink. WHen I am busy at work I am lucky if I get a litre in before I get home.

I haven't caught up with the old thread yet but hopefully will get chance tonight.

Viperidae Mon 26-Nov-12 17:45:11

Sorry to be smug but I am grin. Despite my weekend away, the strict week it inspired has led to a 5lb loss! I honestly don't know how but I weighed 3 times to check. That gives me one and a half stones on bootcamp and just over 2st from my heaviest.

I have also changed my weighing day to a Friday as my weekends are variable - some just a tad naughty, some quite wicked and others just plain scandalous! Only in eating terms though! My theory is that, as my weeks are more even, a weight on Fridays will be more representative.

Hope the job is going well vnmum, it always takes time to get into a routine when you first start.

Willie rather you than me with the army exercise. I feel sick just thinking about it!

Jan sorry to hear about the money. I think your approach of not fretting and hoping it went where needed is a lovely one. Hopefully putting that positive energy onto a negative experience will bring some good luck back to you.

caramelwaffle Mon 26-Nov-12 18:15:52

jan I am my MN name grin

It is definitely the diet as low fat and excercise didn't change it as much.

And - as evidenced at the earlier weeks - high water consumption changed me/my shape/skin/hair/nails.

WineGless Mon 26-Nov-12 19:15:51

Evening losers- my weighin day is Tuesday although havea very early start tomorrow so hoping to be organized tonight.
Well done to ll the losers especially the newbies/ rejoiners!

Jan2013- sorry to hear about the money but am hoping for some karma and you have a lovely surprise over Christmas.
Toomuchmoney- hope your poorly boy gets better soon
Willie - I love boot camps but can't commit to same day every week with shifts but getting bit bored with just same routine at the gym. I think I might get a new programme to keep me interested.

Auntie Maggie- don't get cross with yourself. I end up going off piste when away from home as it gets so hard to buy"quick" low carb meals. It sounds like you are planning better this week. Stick with it - you are doing really well

B: Greek yoghurt
L: tuna sala
D: salmon and stir fry veg

Wrapping Xmas books tonight when DC are asleep

toomuchmonthatendofthemoney Mon 26-Nov-12 19:36:44

The poorly boy is much better and definitely going back to school tomorrow!! He will get an A in Drama, I swear.

WineGless Mon 26-Nov-12 19:44:49

I have one of those too.
The best performance he ever put on was the time he woke up with "fuzzy eyebrows" and tried to convince me he couldn't go to school!
Glad he's ok though

nappyaddict Mon 26-Nov-12 19:49:23


Sorry I know I have asked this before but I can't remember if we are allowed sweet potatoes or spring onions?

BIWI Mon 26-Nov-12 20:43:10

Sweet potatoes no
Spring onions yes


BIWI Mon 26-Nov-12 20:44:09

Boiled sweet potato = 20.5g carbs per 100g
Spring onion = 1.6g carbs per 100g

Doshusallie Mon 26-Nov-12 20:49:47

Chicken curry tonight with green beans and broccolli. Lidl's madras sauce, probably too carby but bloody good!

Piffle Mon 26-Nov-12 21:50:22

Small loss this week,did take eye off the ball, didn't drink my water or eat enough green leafys and got a bit of loo trauma.
All sorted now and back on track for a strict week.
B- Bacon eggs
L - ham, pastrami, cheese, lettuce, good mayo
D- YUM homemade chicken balti, cauliflower cumin rice and steamed spinach.
Rhubarb stewed with raw stevia leaf and double cream for pudding

Stuffed and happy!
500 cals of walking
3.5 L water

Doshusallie Mon 26-Nov-12 21:51:34

That pudding sounds nice piffle..... Must buy some stevia....

Piffle Mon 26-Nov-12 21:56:10

I bought mine raw ground from Funky Raw, I also get my coconut oil from there
Fast delivery and excellent products.
I won't use commercial sweeteners Ick

Marking place...

hurricanewyn Mon 26-Nov-12 22:16:32

Evening all,

Jan - sorry about your weekend, and your money sad
toomuch - glad to hear DS wasn't too poorly smile
Willie - you'll have to report back on bootcamp. I've always fancied the look of them, but am worried I'd make a fool of myself as I've no stamina.

Ended up with cauliflower rice with cream cheese & mushrooms with my fish & sauce tonight. DH, who is also low carbing, wouldn't eat it though - he's positively carb phobic now & was convined there were to many vegetables on his plate. He just picked out the fish & chorizo and left the rest.

MsRinky Mon 26-Nov-12 22:21:04

I know it isn't bootcamp, but I made some ice cream with a teeny bit of Splenda and lots of vanilla. But the awesome bit was home made ice magic: dark chocolate and coconut oil. It was like an actual miracle, I couldn't believe it worked.

Viperidae Mon 26-Nov-12 22:47:18

What did you do you with it MsRinky? Melt them together then pour over?

I made ice cream last week and it was very good indeed. Tried to make strawberry frozen yoghurt too but that was not quite so good.

MsRinky Mon 26-Nov-12 23:05:18

Yep, melt coconut oil then melt chocolate in. Ratio of 1 to 1.5. Sets instantly on contact. I made mine with fancy Valhrona, it was lovely.

NewStartSameStory Tue 27-Nov-12 00:53:14

I would love to say that I have a clue what you have written but having started the day at 4am and still have another hour or so of stuff to do before bed, I will have to come back and re-read through another time. i feel I shall be doing a good impression of a zombie tomo though.

Congrats to the losers.

Morning everyone! 2 pounds off for me taking me to 9 stone 3 and a half pounds, so only three and a half to go to my target! Can't remember the last time I was this light - years ago for sure. It's getting really hard to shift the last few pounds (don't think the wine helps) but I'm doing the shred at least 4 times a week and think that it's definitely helping smile

AuntieMaggie Tue 27-Nov-12 07:59:06

Morning all. Congrats on all your losses smile

Currently eating another rubbish breakfast in a hotel... had a crap day yesterday and went to a chinese buffet restaurant last night BUT I didn't eat a single prawn cracker, noodle, piece of rice or anything like it! grin I did have the most amazing steamed fish thing which was really light, lots of shell on king prawns, mussels, shredded lamb (no pancakes) a few bits of meat and lots of veg and mushrooms. It was lovely and if anyone is in Doncaster I recommend it!

Morning all, just marking place on new thread. Will have a proper catch up later. Are we all aiming for a target of 9st?! grin. Although I had a comment last week about not losing too much more. It was worded in a way that meant as you age choose your 'face or backside' ......... and not from my dear old mum either! Said to me by a lovely person who I haven't seen for a while. Left me feeling sad angry hmm and confused.

hurricanewyn Tue 27-Nov-12 08:29:51

Morning all,

Clare - you'll have to change your username once you get to target smile
Auntie - that dinner sounds lovely

I've weighed this morning & .5kg off so hopefully I'll be able to shift last week's gain without it derailing me too much.

Plan for today:
B - scrambled eggs
L- not sure. Having a meeting during my lunch break, so I don't know if I have time to eat
D - Bolognaise with courgette ribbons

Hope everyone has a good day.

Well done to all losers too - forgot To say yesterday. And Ewan - you didn't sound smug at all. smile. I'd much rather hear someone had done the same as me & lost it all quickly, than it had taken aaaagggggeeesss to come back off.

hurricanewyn Tue 27-Nov-12 08:35:06

Singing - could it be jealousy?

toomuchmonthatendofthemoney Tue 27-Nov-12 08:42:28

Morning all, congrats to the losers.
Mrs Rinky envy at your social calendar !! I have the grand total of, er, one night out so far booked in Dec!
halfthesize you will be just like your username soon, well done!!

I am 1lb up, which considering the week of Up to No Good last week, is really not as bad as I was expecting!! The blip is past, I am back on plan!

B Lidl Greek yoghurt
L 2 boiled eggs mashed with butter and pepper
D roast chicken with veg

Drank more water yesterday than I have been, it's def having an effect!!

Hurracaine, no unfortunately not! She is a gorgeous slim doctor, at least 10 years younger than me and the comment was not malicious in any way just a sort of practised eye statement. We then went on to have a lovely catch up, said a cheery bye and all was well. Except that comment keeps coming back to haunt me.

Anyway. B: Bacon x3, half a Tom, mushrooms and fried egg. Coffee with cream, Berroca in pint of water. I love this woe and the way it makes me feel too much to mess with it. smile

NotAgainAndAgain Tue 27-Nov-12 09:07:30

I think my scale is on strike.
My DD was coughing all night - so first thing I did after getting off bed - went to check on her. Then straight on the scale.
not happy - gained what I lost the previous week, hung my head and huffed off. And then remembered that oh I have not unload yesterdays food yet. Did "a big business", hopped on the scale again with hope - and no changes.
How that can be I have no idea. I still have not had a drink or anything passed my lips.
I blame my scales. Definitely on strike. They are not digital though, may
be not detecting minuscule offload (though it was not, forgive my graphic details).

PorkyScratching Tue 27-Nov-12 09:15:08

Can this WOE affect your periods? I haventhad one in 12 years (due to my contracptives) but I have bloating, cramps and heavy spotting today shock Dont know if its the low carbing or something else affecting it.

NotAgainAndAgain Tue 27-Nov-12 09:17:20

BIWI the first anniversary of being an great auntie - celebrated last night?wink

Porky, I had gone over 12 months and was thinking this is the menopause. Now I am back to having periods. That is the downside of this woe! Think it efficiently sorts out hormone levels.

Notagain, invest in some digital scales. They are great as you can see the ounces coming off.

Doshusallie Tue 27-Nov-12 09:44:04

Porky - don't say that - I am on Depo and don't have periods - I would be gutted to get them back..... sad

B: Lidl yoghurt.

DH's birthday today but he is low carbing, said no to the offer of a birthday cake and is cooking pork belly slices for tea. grin

EwanHoozami Tue 27-Nov-12 10:08:38

how's tricks, losers?

B - lidl yog
L - smoked mackerel salad
D - squid in tomato and green pepper sauce with cauli rice (wasn't actually very nice!)

B - kedgeree with leftover cauli rice, mackerel and boiled egg (yum)
L - on the go so cheese and ham or something
D - venison liver, braised cabbage and mashed swede (my chest freezer is groaning with bits of game that DH has somehow acquired confused )

Piffle Tue 27-Nov-12 11:02:22

My periods have been easier and PMT much reduced on LCHF...

B - Bacon Eggs Mushrooms
L- Butternut Squash curry spiced soup - cold meats and cheeses
D- Roasted Pork Belly with green veg... making my own gravy...
Snacks nuts, rhubarb and cream, coconut oil and flax seeds
Exercise about 300-500 cals again walking, quick bike ride with a dog etc

Lavendersbluedillydilly1969 Tue 27-Nov-12 11:12:14

Does anyone notice they have personality issues in this WOE?
DH has been doing it too as saw my weight loss and wanted to try it but he's been really moody and irritated by everyone and everything. Can this just be the lack if sugar because I'm thinking of force feeding him fruit and chocolate I'm so fed up with it. He says I'm snappy too but it's my TOM and I think he's forgotten how aggro I could be before I started the low carbing, I feel so much better I don't think I'm anywhere near as bad.

Lavendersbluedillydilly1969 Tue 27-Nov-12 11:14:56

Meant to say he also thinks its affecting his memory and concentration and energy levels too whereas I feel I have more energy and no longer have that 3pm slump where I just want to sleep. Can it really have these differing effects on different people, he's now telling me its not healthy and he wants me to start eating fruit again as veggies not sufficient and we need some sugar and fruit vitamins to be healthy. Aaagh.

JessicaWakefield Tue 27-Nov-12 11:46:26

Lavender sounds like a tricky situation but I'm not sure that eating more fruit is the answer. I think in the past when fruit wasn't widely available and we ate more seasonally it was regarded as a once in a while treat. Traditionally the word dessert was used to describe the fruit course of a big meal which I think speaks volumes about how much we should be eating of it. It seems to me that because of marketing and perhaps the wider availability of fruit "fruit and veg" seem to be inextricably linked as though they are basically the same when we know metabolically that they're not. Perhaps your DH is someone who's more suited to a maintenance LC approach rather than bootcamp? Hope your DH feels better in himself soon.

captainmummy Tue 27-Nov-12 11:53:11

Lavender - my DP is low-carbing too (sort off) but is still eating porridge, 1 piece fruit a day and mashed potatoes! He is still losing weight tho, so can obv eat a higher level of carbs per day than I can.

I used to get that 3pm slump - just before I had to fetch the dc from school! Couldn't sit down in case I fell asleep. Much better now.

Am really hungry today (or bored waiting in for workmen) breakfast - 1.5 eggs omellette (other 0.5 going in with mashed cauli and tuna as sort of fishcakes for tea, but they are very runny at the mo)
early lunch at 1130 am - tuna and lettuce
late lunch - prob chicken soup, mostly stock with carrots and chicken in
dinner - those fishcakes if i can cook them in 1 piece.

NotMostPeople Tue 27-Nov-12 11:58:39

Lavender - could it be low salt? I seem to remember there was an issue with low salt levels on the original bootcamp thread BIWI will know.

I'm on Day 3 of rejoining low carb and have the dreaded headache from hell, but have stuck with it (apart from a glass of wine).

Can anyone tell my why I have a tub of coconut oil? I think I bought it when I was on the original bootcamp but I have no idea what I'm supposed to be doing with it.

Also any soup ideas? Everything I think of has carby veg ie. carrots, onions etc.

Lavendersbluedillydilly1969 Tue 27-Nov-12 12:35:17

Thanks for the quick responses Jessica, captain and NotMost, I think I will try and get him to eat a bowl of porridge for breakfast and see if that helps. I need to investigate the low salt thing too and see if its relevant.

I just can't get it through to him that vegetables are as good if not better than fruit except for the sugar and that I am enjoying this WOE. He constantly craves chocolate and biscuits etc so doesn't understand that I don't. I would far rather he eats what suits him and let's me do the same. I have tried to keep it all low key as don't agree with talking about diets and weight all the time when DC are around as don't want them worrying about their weight (which is absolutely fine btw), but he is constantly trying to get me to eat stuff by getting the kids to tell me to.

Doshusallie Tue 27-Nov-12 12:48:29

Lavender - how long has he been doing it? Could the things he is feeling not simply be carb withdrawal, that will pass in due course?

Could it simply be that he is a mardy git like my husband? grin Just kidding. sortof

Just swum a mile. Did not feel like it, but feel marvellous now and am really proud of myself for going. Ache from gym yesterday, raining outside, working at home sitting on cosy sofa etc etc.

Lunch will be curried butternut squash soup (snap Piffle).

MsRinky Tue 27-Nov-12 13:09:48

Tomatoes, aubergines, peppers, squash, cucumber, avocado...all fruits. Just not the high-sugar ones.

halfthesize Tue 27-Nov-12 13:43:26

Afternoon All, *Lavender hope things improve soonsmile

With regards to TOTM, I have to say my PMT, pain etc has been much improved since this WOE..

Toomuch thanks, my husband suggested my username a month or so ago as had to change itgrin I do feel so much better for loosing the weight.

Singing I have had quite a few comments recently about not going to far, weight loss wise, as I may start to look gaunt.
Honestly, I was upset to start with and then thought what the hell, its my body.. I am in no way looking to thin and am aware after 3 children there are parts of my body I will never be happy with. Buts that's also because I am not 20 anymorewink
Some of the comments have been from people that I think may be a little jealous but most from people who I have known for years, have great figures, does leave me thinking that some people just honestly believe they have the right to comment on anything they please, without really thinking it throughsmile

Anyway I am 3 pints down and just had pork chop with a little salad for lunch. Breakfast was a coffee as builders in again!!!!

Sorry rather long post x

vnmum Tue 27-Nov-12 14:09:29

Lavenders It could be carb withdrawal with your DH. IF he is still getting cravings, it would suggest that his insulin isn't under control and that he may not be in ketosis. He could be at the inbetweeen stage where his body is trying to go into ketosis but is resisting and causing low sugar symptoms i.e moodiness, cravings etc

caramelwaffle Tue 27-Nov-12 14:19:01

Does anyone remember the name of MmeL's book on tweeting? I want to buy it for christmas.

Doshusallie Tue 27-Nov-12 15:04:28

caramel - I do too......where is MMeLindor anyway?

caramelwaffle Tue 27-Nov-12 15:32:40

Found it.
Learn to tweet in ten minutes.

caramelwaffle Tue 27-Nov-12 15:34:05

Last seen in property porn.

Doshusallie Tue 27-Nov-12 15:57:18


WineGless Tue 27-Nov-12 15:57:30

She's on twitter!!

NotMostPeople Tue 27-Nov-12 16:38:12

Lavender - don't tell BIWI but he could have a nibble of some 75% coco chocolate. That helped me in the past.

I'm in full on carb craving day 3, I've done it before so I know I just have to get through it - tough though.

hurricanewyn Tue 27-Nov-12 18:42:34

NotMost - I hope you're through it soon. I've cheated knocked myself out of ketosis a few times & it's been horrible.

Had salad for lunch as my meeting was postponed to tomorrow morning.

Had bolognaise for dinner, but didn't bother with the corgette. Had lots og grated cheese instead. I had it early though, so hope I don't feel picky later on.

How's everyone else doing?

toomuchmonthatendofthemoney Tue 27-Nov-12 18:43:40

halfthesize I was on another thread discussing comments about weight loss and not going too far ...

Myself and others said that their friends, who were, say, a size 14, were very encouraging when the person was slimming down from, say, a size 18 to 14, however when the person kept going and got thinner than friends to a 12 or 10, that's when the "helpful/bitchy" comments started!! They could cope when we were still bigger than them, but woe betide once we overtook them in the skinny stakes wink

If your friend is anything like my 2 doctor friends, straight talking to the point of bluntness is a given!! smile love them tho, great to take shopping as they will just say "no" as soon as come out of changing room in something not suiting!

BIWI Tue 27-Nov-12 18:48:08

Lavender - sorry to hear about your husband being a twat being irritable!

How long has he been doing it? Is he just in the carb withdrawal phase?

If you can, keep him off the fruit - the sugar in that will just undo all the good work so far.

But to be honest, if he isn't committed to the idea/science/thinking behind low carbing, he's never going to do it. Has he done any reading about it?

Halfthesize that is so true, thank you. smile. I'm over it now and still want a lose a few more pounds, but off the hips hopefully!

Lavender how long how DH been LCing for? Like the others said it could be carb flu. Or like my DH when he wants to eat everything in sight he might just be a grumpy sod. grin

D: left over shoulder of lamb from Sunday casseroled with mushrooms, leeks, shallots, tin of toms served with cabbage and cauliflower mashed with butter and fried.

Lavendersbluedillydilly1969 Tue 27-Nov-12 20:46:25

Thank you everyone for your kind words and advice. He is convinced he knows best and isn't interested in reading or learning more about low carbing. DH is usually great but being a pain about this. He's definitely not in ketosis because he keeps cheating and then complaining it doesn't work and he's craving carbs. Not changing what I'm doing though.
Dinner was roast chicken and loads of veg in homemade cheese sauce. Yummy but I'm definitely too reliant on cheese, we're getting through tons of the stuff.
Still not drinking enough water though so need to try harder with that.

Doshusallie Tue 27-Nov-12 20:48:10

Tea has been 2 pork belly slices, covered in salt, and a teaspoon of PB. I know. Have had 2 g&ts and a glass of red. DH's birthday.

Will wake up starving tomorrow.

caramelwaffle Tue 27-Nov-12 20:52:11

Lunch was a large salad with cardini's sauce, cheese, bacon and avocado.

Dinner was venison and pork sausages. They looked lonely.

Lots of herbal tea and a brandy.

WineGless Tue 27-Nov-12 20:57:11

Evening just checking in after an exhausting day at work then swimming lessons. I sit with a mum whose life is sooo much harder than mine and we have a giggle together though. She has one son who lives in hospital ventilated and one son who lives with her and is autistic. She is amazing.

Food wise - pretty good day
B: Greek yoghurt
L: tuna salad
D: bolognaise sauce with courgette sticks

MegTheCat Tue 27-Nov-12 21:06:48

Hello all. My new scales have arrived so I will weigh in tomorrow. I went for mechanical ones - they are not very precise (they don't go down to the ounce, in fact you have to peer quite hard to make out which pound you're on). I just wanted some I only had to stand on once which will give me my weight instantly.

Doshusallie Tue 27-Nov-12 21:51:15

Ha ha caramel my pork belly slices looked lonely too.

Wine - that puts things in perspective doesn't it....

WineGless Tue 27-Nov-12 22:02:15

I know Dosh, she puts me to shame. Her attitude humbles me and I hope that should I ever be faced with the daily trials that she has that I would be able to face it in the same spirit. I'm not sure I would though.

Right been p since half 5 so night losers

Viperidae Tue 27-Nov-12 22:31:49

I am absolutely knackered today and wonder if it's because I had started to cheat a bit too much (over the weekend I seem to have gained back most of what I lost last week) and am now trying to rein myself in again. Either that or work really is killing me slowly!

Today I have been quite good but not enough water and succumbed to 3 Diet Cokes blush
B: Omelette with leftover meatloaf
L: Chicken, handful of almonds
T: Chicken with cheese and bacon, leeks, swede
Snack: seeds

cathyandclaire Tue 27-Nov-12 22:32:01

Hello losers! 1lb up here.... Kind of going up and down around target but not being very strict so happy with that and won't mention Chinese, curry and vino last weekend
Planning three v strict days this week to get into proper keto in preparation for another weekend of food.... Should be manageable though, one night in French restaurant, so meat, creamy sauce and veg and a dinner party cooked by me, so low carb feast! Any recipe tips very welcome!!!

halfthesize Tue 27-Nov-12 22:57:36

Toomuch it sounds like we all know the same the same type of peoplewink

Had LC shepherds pie topped with sliced leeks, it was lovely. On my 6th pint of water so well and truly sloshing tonight!grin

NewStartSameStory Wed 28-Nov-12 04:21:34

Ok so what do you keep ready to hand for when you wake up in the night hungry for proper food but really can't be are to make anything proper? I would previously have eaten toast which of course is a big No No for this woe. struggled tonight.

I have to admit I don't wake up hungry in the night, but perhaps a glass of water might help?

Have arrived at work, it's such a mad time of year...

Boot camp is tomorrow, I will report back if I am still alive. It doesn't look like a very shouty thing, more tasks and challenges that make you exercise but in an interesting way

EwanHoozami Wed 28-Nov-12 07:56:00

lavender if your DH is struggling with sugar cravings maybe a supplement would help? I took chromium for a month when I started out which is supposed to help stabilise blood sugar levels. Mark's Daily Apple has a good piece on it.

But as everyone says, if he's cheating a bit and not committed to the sciencey stuff then he'll struggle.

It's good to hear of people's DH / DPs joining in, though. My DH is trying to put on weight (the bugger) so he joyfully eats my high protein & high fat menu and adds carbs! envy

BIWI Wed 28-Nov-12 08:32:22

NewStart - you shouldn't be waking up in the night hungry! That means you're not eating properly/enough during the day. Are you eating enough fat?

Good luck for tomorrow, Willie. I don't envy you at all! When I change gyms at the end of January I have to decide if I'm going to carry on with my personal trainer or switch to a new one at the new gym. I very much enjoy working my trainer, but as I won't be able to go to the gym with him, it would mean outside training, which I really don't want to do!

Lavender - if your DH isn't really prepared to do anything serious towards LCing, then frankly I'd just abandon him to his own devices.

Am 9.7 this morning, which isn't too bad, considering the weekend - two strict days so far seem to have dealt with the carbs! I have only today and tomorrow, though, to lose anything more, as Friday (massive and boozy Christmas lunch) and Saturday (MN London meet up) are sure to sabotage my weight again.

MegTheCat Wed 28-Nov-12 08:55:32

Good morning. Just weighed in on the new scales and am down 1lb. From the spreadsheet there are some quite spectacular losses when you look at the totals since we started - people losing a stone, a stone and a half - well done everyone! I don't really fancy being super strict (I love my cheese and cream) so will be content to keep on losing slowly. Also I look a lot thinner and have nice clothes that fit at the moment. NewStart why not cook extra and make sure you have leftovers in the fridge that you can just reheat when you want something quick? Like Biwi says, better to eat more in the day and not wake up hungry in the night - but if you have a 4am start and go to bed after midnight maybe you're too tired to eat.

NewStartSameStory Wed 28-Nov-12 09:39:55

I am exhausted. I slept in the day yesterday thus didn't eat enough. And some toad woke me up when i went to bed early so i felt less ill. Needless to say i spent many hours awake during the night last night and hunger set it. Not helped by ds who has taken to getting up every two hours again. If I am up I often need food to settle me back down, always been like this. Never been a great sleeper. Thing is during the day I am sooo Tired I feel sick and don't want to eat and at night I am so hungry I can't sleep. Can't wait until Nov is over. It's a stressful one.

Good luck with the meals Biwi - just remember to have fun grin

caramelwaffle Wed 28-Nov-12 10:02:00

Just jumped on scales for a quick peep. Going down and really happy. 10lb down overall on Bootcamp and just over a stone from just before Bootcamp. Feeling much healthier.

Newstart Could you keep some boiled eggs or chopped chicken breasts as standby snacks; perhaps with some pesto sauce or chilli oil?

Well done Meg

Have fun at the MN meetup BIWI - and anyone else going.

WineGless Wed 28-Nov-12 10:55:49

Bacon egg and mushrooms for breakfast and just been to gym so feeling Good this morning. Just arriving at work so no doubt my euphoria will soon evaporate!
Onwards and downwards everyone

BIWI Wed 28-Nov-12 13:26:37

Oh, I won't forget to have fun!

Piffle Wed 28-Nov-12 14:25:18

Bacon eggs mushrooms for breakfast (I will NEVER tire of this I love it)

Then a 2 hr walk <knackered>
Lunch - butternut squash soup half serving as DH had most of it before I got back from my epic walk grrr and pastrami and ham and some cheese

On 2nd litre of water now

Dinner is Thai Beef Salad

Snacks - nuts (10) and rhubarb and double cream and coconut oil (not all together LOL )

captainmummy Wed 28-Nov-12 15:07:16

No breakfast this morning, no time, but went to work on a coffee-and-cream. 2 Cofffees with milk at work - supposed to come home at 12 for lunch, but the auditors are in, so didn't get away till 2pm. (How can they fixate on 4 bloody days, in June? How can I remember? And anyway am only pennies out!) Anyway, lunch was eventually lettuce/ham/mayo, and a load of salted peanuts.

Dinner will be shepherds pie with swede.

nappyaddict Wed 28-Nov-12 15:17:54

Is anyone doing low carb for christmas dinner?

Just trying to decide on what to have on ours.

Are we allowed red cabbage as well as spring cabbage/savoy cabbage?

Viperidae Wed 28-Nov-12 17:03:07

Low carb for Christmas? Hmmm..........let me think............NO!!!! I'm going to pig out on anything I fancy secure in the knowledge that I probably won't fancy as much as I did before this WOE and I will only do it for a short time!

I have a funny tummy today, I feel very empty and gurgly but can't decide if it's in a hungry way or a sicky way. Shouldn't be hungry as I've had 2 boiled eggs for breakfast then 2 lamb chops, creamed leeks and asparagus for lunch. Off to get more water in case it's that but I'm not convinced.

Piffle Wed 28-Nov-12 17:03:32

I hope so cos I am eating about 2 heads a week of red cabbage in Thai salads LOL

WE are doing for xmas a sort of compromise.
Confit of duck leg and rocket salad and parmesan crisps with blackberry and pinot noir jam.

Roast beef - the others will have Yorkshire Pud and roast spuds, parsnips etc
I am doing fruited red cabbage too plus sprouts sauteed in pancetta.

Pudding well here I say Sod it
Vanilla Pannacotta, blackberry sauce and hazelnut brittle and biscuit crumbs.

Cheese board

Heston Xmas pud and custard.

Wine! Beer! Baileys!

Big long afternoon walk!

Viperidae Wed 28-Nov-12 17:06:02

nappy Just read that back and hope it doesn't sound arsey, it's not meant to but I am looking forward to a day or two of sheer piggery even if I pay for it later!

Boobz Wed 28-Nov-12 18:19:28

Have guests staying this week, hence lack of posts.

Stayed at 116lbs on Monday. Not sure it will do that again next Monday though, given the wine that is flowing.

Need to get back on it from Sunday after they have gone!

PorkyScratching Wed 28-Nov-12 18:26:22

I am allowing myself 2 days to enjoy all the food that isnt good for me, then hopping straight back into low carbing. I will go off the rails otherwise, I know I will. So Christmas Day & Boxing day, then line drawn. I have New Year low carb treats planned, so know I can cope then. I have bookmarked loads of lovely low carb party nibbles to try! Will drink vodka & diet coke.

I sccumbed to 5 chips at KFC today, but considering what I managed to resist, I am mighty proud! The firs 2 chips tasted good, the third ok and 4th & 5th quite rank, so I stopped. I was a total chip fiend 3 weeks ago! Huge progress.

halfthesize Wed 28-Nov-12 19:12:31

piffle that menu sounds yummygrin

I have no appetite today and have increased water to 8 pints a day, spending alot of time running to the loowink

Breakfast - coffee(really busy)
Lunch - homemade pork sratchings with a little cucumber(as I said no appetite)
Dinner - cant face anythingconfused

halfthesize Wed 28-Nov-12 19:14:23

Also have baked over 50 cupcakes today as hosting DMIL 70th tomorrow eve and didnt even one.<polishes halo> We then have a family meal out for her on Saturday, this will be a boozy night!!!

Piffle Wed 28-Nov-12 20:22:11

Thanks Half :-)

In laws coming < pressure>

Well weigh in today with DH and I'm at my lowest weight for 2 yrs :-)

It's really buoyed me to keep going :-) these boot camp threads are awesome! I'd have fallen off the wagon without them so thank you all

halfthesize Wed 28-Nov-12 21:14:59

Well done Piffle bet you feel greatgrin

I also have the In laws this year, so feel your pressurewink

jan2013 Wed 28-Nov-12 21:15:42

hey guys

halfthesize hope ur feeling ok, good luck with the party well done for all the baking

Biwi have a great time at your dinner do - is it tomorrow? if so i hope it goes really well and you will look gorgeous in your new dress and shoes smile

newstart that sounds difficult i do empathise as i have always been a light sleeper too - takes awhile getting to sleep, then the slightest thing wakes me and then sometimes takes forever to get back to sleep again, and then add a dc who is a rubbish sleeper and its a bad mix. i find a hot drink helps, some relaxing music, and sometimes that bach flower remedy stuff.

food been ok today....drank loads of water as was in hot office all day and really felt the difference so need to make sure i do that at home too.

Doshusallie Wed 28-Nov-12 21:17:54

Viper I'm with you. Although mine might be three days (Christmas eve, Christmas day, and boxing day).

Lunch was my standard protein counter salad from work canteen.

Tea was sausage surprise grin. Sausages, swede, peppers, celeriac, cabbage, yum.

I have let the side down today though - first food cheat for ages....3 big handfuls of salted peanuts.......I bloody love them and dh bought a packet home, and well, I slipped.

Got two refugee children upstairs, bless them. A friend has had an operation today, and her dh is till at the hospital with her, so having them for a couple of hours has turned into overnight. Happy to help, I hope they sleep ok.

Got an interview tomorrow. Wish me luck!

BIWI Wed 28-Nov-12 21:24:53

Well, as cheats go, it could have been a lot worse!

Good luck tomorrow.

WineGless Wed 28-Nov-12 21:46:35

Dosh- I ended up having peanuts for lunch. Badly planned and was all I had in my desk. Carb count didn't seem to bad on the ones I bought though (touches wood)

Piffle- well done you! I'm loving your menu and am going to pinch the sprouts and pancetta idea

WineGless Wed 28-Nov-12 21:48:13

Dosh - missed last bit of your post. Good luck for tomorrow. Is it a new company or internal interview? Knock 'em dead (disclaimer-not literally)

Piffle Wed 28-Nov-12 22:55:59

Good luck Dosh!

caramelwaffle Wed 28-Nov-12 23:25:35

Good luck Dosh

Lavendersbluedillydilly1969 Wed 28-Nov-12 23:46:07

Good luck for tomorrow Dosh. x

Viperidae Thu 29-Nov-12 01:37:24

Good luck Dosh. Hope it all goes well, sure it will smile

hurricanewyn Thu 29-Nov-12 07:20:48

Good luck Dosh

EwanHoozami Thu 29-Nov-12 07:40:48

Good luck Dosh. Read the v. funny thread about interview cock-ups if you're feeling nervous and be safe in the knowledge that at least you won't slip up on a potato. No potato slip-ups on bootcamp!

Piffle that Christmas lunch menu sounds delish. I'm doing dinner for ten (and rising...) so am looking for inspiration.

B: Lidl yog
L: chicken salad
D: bacon and spinach crustless quiche

B: yog
L: leftover quiche
D: lime & soy marinated salmon (Lidl salmon is super-cheap!)

Morning all, just dashing in to say the very best of luck today Dosh. Let us know how it goes.

BIWI Thu 29-Nov-12 08:12:12

Well done, Piffle, and thinking of you this morning, Dosh!

Down to 9.6 (and a quarter) this morning, so have undone the weekend damage, and lost a little more. Tantalisingly close to my 2 stone mark now. Hopefully a good day today might see me get there. (Because the weekend coming up certainly won't)

NewStartSameStory Thu 29-Nov-12 09:07:58

Good luck Dosh

Some sleep had. more needed. 3 more days and then things calm down.

PorkyScratching Thu 29-Nov-12 09:12:18

This unexpected period is quite sore sad I havent had one in over 11 years, s its quite a shock to the system! Its only mild to heavy spotting, but it is painful. Hoping it ends soon, my flatter tummy has disappeared with the bloating!

Dinner last night was yum, belly pork & "zoodles". Going to have the zoodles again tonight because they were so nice, with steak this time.

Just had 2 eggs scrambled with butter & cream - delish.

Viperidae Thu 29-Nov-12 09:24:04

Porky I am heading for menopause and had gone 10 months without a period but had one shortly after starting LCing. Mine was a proper one, very achey, and I have had a couple of spotting episodes since. I wonder if my hormones are rebalancing somehow.

What are zoodles? Sounds very interesting.

DD and I are both feeling rather queasy today, I'm just hoping it's not a build up to the vomity bug my poor old mum has had all week.

Doshusallie Thu 29-Nov-12 09:35:25

Thanks all!!! It's this avo at 2.30 - with a recruitment agency rather than a prospective employer but they refuse to put me forward for jobs until they have met me, and I will treat it as a full on interview.

Well Sausage Surprise wasn't a particurly pleasant one after all - I have been on the loo since the early hours, my tummy is NOT happy. sad I think DH made it with a sachet sauce - something is not agreeing with me. Can't be the peanuts I eat loads of PB.....confused

Piffle Thu 29-Nov-12 10:15:20

Well today the bacon and eggs are on board now.
Lunch is going to be cold meats and salad and cheeses
Dinner is Thai salmon fishcakes from IPD cookbook and a thai dressed salad

snacks, today might be a shake with soy milk. no rhubarb left sad Have low cal jelly and cream BUT I loathe artificial sweeteners so we shall see

BIWI Thu 29-Nov-12 10:18:31

I have a lovely day today! Started with session at the gym with the PT, and shortly I'm heading off to Kingston for an appointment with a jewellery designer. I'm going to spend the money from the insurance from our burglary, back in February. I haven't been able to buy any pieces that I like, hence the designer appointment. I'm also taking some rings that my mum left me, to see if the designer can use the stones/gold from them.

Feels very wicked and self-indulgent to be spending this amount of money just on me. (What a hardship I hear you all cry ...)

Breakfast (pre-gym) - yoghurt and vanilla
Lunch (will be) scrambled eggs - still on a bit of a protein kick this week
Dinner (will be) low carb sausages, leftover mashed swede from last night and broccoli.

jan2013 Thu 29-Nov-12 11:18:17

good luck dosh!

Biwi sounds amazing treat yourself you deserve it!

might do some batch cooking at some stage since mum is going to be minding dd.

hurricanewyn Thu 29-Nov-12 15:06:50

Dosh - I hope all's going well
Jan - do something nice for yourself too while you're childfree
Biwi - I hope you can get something fabulous today. What a lovely idea to include your mum's pieces too.

Not feeling great today. Left uni at 10 as I was all cold & shakey. Came home & slept on the sofa for 3 hours, but feel a bit queasy now. Hopefully it passes soon as it's parent's evening tonight & I def need a clear head. DS has ASD & it's never a straight forward meeting.

Meant to be having a low carb fry up tonight - lets see how it goes smile

captainmummy Thu 29-Nov-12 17:36:59

Hope it all went well doshu. BIWI - I used to live near Kingston and it's lovely - and a lovely idea to use your mum's jewellery on something new. Hurricane - hope you're feeling better soon - sounds like flu, poor you!

I'm off to Nuremberg for the Xmas markets in the morning, so will prob have a rather carb-mental weekend (sausages, gluhwein, chocs, gingerbread) in fact I really don't think much low-carb will pass these lips in the next few days sad - on the bright side, I'm taking the dc so will be lots of running about, and also shivering (minus 4 predicted!)

HumphreyCobbler Thu 29-Nov-12 17:42:51

Hello everyone <waves>

just popped in to say hello and confess I ate a plum blush

Wish you better hurricane, and have a good trip captain, sounds fab

Because I am a tit and have left my keys inside the house on the night that dp has parents' evening I will not be doing boot camp tryouts (kit is in the house obv)

Don't feel sort for me, I am an idiot and am camping out at waitrose about ten minutes' walk away!


Hurracaine, hope you're feeling better now.

BIWI, trust you had a great day choosing jewellery. When we had to do that a few years ago in similar circumstances it was a bit touched with sadness as you can't replace sentimentality but incorporating your mum's pieces is a lovely idea.

Jan, hope you've managed to cook loads of goodies. I love batch cooking.

Newstart, hope you're feeling better sounds like like life is a bit tough. Take care of yourself. Have a unmumsnetty hug.

Am really, really struggling with water now it's so flipping cold. Food ok though. D: pork chops, celeriac dauphinois and green beans.

Humph, your confession of a plum made me grin.

Dosh, how did you get on?

Willie, hope you're not locked out for too long. Too cold tonight.

PorkyScratching Thu 29-Nov-12 18:50:50

Good day today foodwise, and the spotting/cramps seems to have gone grin

Breakfast - scrambled egg with a dash of cream & butter

Lunch - Deli ham slices, babyleaf salad, coleslaw

Snacks - pepperami, cup of homemade cream of leek soup

Dinner - steak, garlic butter prawns & zoodles

To whoever asked, "zoodles" is a recipe I got from a US site, not sure if its on the recipe thread here or not. Its courgette ribbons, fried mushrooms, butter, dash of cream & lots of parmesan - utterly delicious! I think its called zoodles because of courgette being called zuccini over there.

PorkyScratching Thu 29-Nov-12 20:34:49

Ive beentaking photos of some of my meals, and made a photo album to show my sister who is interested in LC but thinks it might be boring - I want to show her its anything but! I think they look pretty tasty (if I do say so myself), they are here if anyone wants to have a peep smile here

Doshusallie Thu 29-Nov-12 20:44:31

Thanks so much for all your good wishes. Meeting event very well. She is putting me forward for 3 jobs!!!

We will see.

Willie hope you are back in, maybe that's fate telling you outside exercise is wrong? grin

Leftover curry with courgettes for tea. In bed already as really tired today, crap night sleep after sausage nasty shock surprise....

Doshusallie Thu 29-Nov-12 20:45:32

porky I think your meals look fabulous, not boring at all!!!

Fab dosh!

Still waiting for dp to come home, he should only be ten minutes now

Porky your meals look lovely, v colourful

ParceQueJeLeVauxBien Thu 29-Nov-12 20:53:35

Boring?! There is absolutely no excuse for food to be boring on the WOE, given all the lovely things that we can eat!

(BIWI here in my Franglais name)

nappyaddict Thu 29-Nov-12 20:55:18


Where do you get the carb values from that you post on here?

I keep reading that it's only the net carbs we need to count (total carbs minus fibre) as fibre cannot be digested by the body. Is this right?

nappyaddict Thu 29-Nov-12 20:58:39


What are zoodles?

Can you post the recipes for breakfast frittata, breakfast muffins, eggs in purgatory, chicken fricasse and cheeseburger pies please?

ParceQueJeLeVauxBien Thu 29-Nov-12 21:00:51

nappy - net carbs/removing fibre is what they talk about on American websites. Food labelling is done differently here.

Most of my carb counts come from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/, but if they aren't listed there, then I just Google them.

Rollergirl1 Thu 29-Nov-12 21:55:55

Hi everyone, I've been lurking on this thread for a little bit but thought i'd officially join you.

I've been attempting to low-carb for around the last month now. I am also doing a mixture of Ripped in 30 or swimming (50 lengths) 5 days a week.

I am 5ft 3 and my ideal weight post children is around 9 stone. I have managed to creep up to closer to 10 stone in the last year, despite still exercising regularly.

So I have been cutting out alcohol during the week. My meals consist of yoghurt mixed with oatbran for breakfast. Lunches and Dinner I tend to mix and match but generally are things like thin cut steak with roasted veg (mushrooms, courgette, peppers and tomatoes) or chicken breast wrapped in parma ham with leeks and asparagus. Or Smoked Haddock with scrambled egg. Also my DH really likes to cook and I feel bad that we end up eating seperate meals a lot of the time during the week. So if he cooks a curry or chilli con carne or some kind of pasta dish i will have it but without any rice or pasta.

At the weekend I definitely relax a little and drink wine and have a few more starchy carbs, but still not excessive.

I started at 9 stone 11 and this morning I weighed myself and I was 9 stone 5 so i'm pretty pleased!

It was also my birthday this week (last year in my thirties) and DH took me to lunch at Heston Blumenthal's at the Mandarin Oriental. I had decided that I was not going to worry about what I was eating and just enjoy. We ordered prime rib for two that came with thrice cooked chips. I managed to not eat any chips and just had the beef and greens so I was very pleased with myself!

WineGless Thu 29-Nov-12 22:35:05

Hi roller girl and welcome!
Happy birthday for last week and well done on resisting the chips. I find it really isn't any hardship as I don't enjoy the taste any more

Quickly checking in before bed - night all

Viperidae Thu 29-Nov-12 22:56:12

Well I have been tackling the Xmas shopping today in an effort to get myself organised. I have a lot less to buy for now as many friends' children have come off the list (we all agreed to stop buying for them at 18)

I have my first Christmas party on Saturday, second one on Thursday and third one on Friday so the next week could be interesting!

caramelwaffle Thu 29-Nov-12 23:10:37

Welcome roller girl

porky the pictures are really good for illustrating the lovely food we can have.

Lavendersbluedillydilly1969 Fri 30-Nov-12 07:33:45

I also have to confess a small slip into a huge chai latte and an almond croissant yesterday. Sadly it tasted lovely (was hoping I wouldn't like it now) and today am 2 lbs up so not good.
Still waiting for TOM to start and must say this month I feel lousy with it though no bloating so that's good.
More Xmas shopping today so need some willpower to resist stopping for coffee and cake which is what I would usually do ( several times).

ParceQueJeLeVauxBien Fri 30-Nov-12 08:31:12

STS for me - so won't be hitting my target this week. Looks like I'm saving it for the last week of Bootcamp!

Off to my party today. Six courses and a different wine with each course. Lunch starts with Champagne.

Scallops with roast pork belly, followed by sole, followed by boudin blanc, followed by fillet of beef, then apricot bread and butter pudding blush and cheese, coffee and chocolates.

I shall be waddling and weaving my way home at some point later this afternoon/early evening grin

NewStartSameStory Fri 30-Nov-12 08:38:26

well this weekend is our official family christmas. full christmas dinner and everything. We are all over the world for christmas day so it works for us. Needless to say I have fallen off the wagon but will be back after the weekend in the joys that will be heading towards carb flu etc. Not weighing today I want to know what damage i have done so will weight monday. Have brilliant weekends and see you monday!

ParceQueJeLeVauxBien Fri 30-Nov-12 08:45:40

You won't necessarily go through the carb flu - if you are properly ketogenically adapted you should be fine. Just look out for the cravings, and get yourself back on the wagon as soon as you can.

Happy Christmas!

<jingles bells>

Newstart, have a good Christmas! I never get carb flu anymore just the cravings as BIWI says.

BIWI your lunch sounds amazing. Enjoy!

I shall be working outside most of the day so hopefully I'll shiver a few pounds off. Brrrr.

WineGless Fri 30-Nov-12 09:23:50

Happy Christmas new start- have a fab weekend with your family

Lavender - I used to reward myself when I went shopping with cake and coffee. Now I buy a nice magazine and a coffee instead for a treat. I changed my mindset after reading IPD where it says something like: nothing tastes like being slim feels and the cake isn't really going to make you feel any better. In fact if you are low carbing it is likely to give you stomach pains or a headache. Do you really want this? How did it make you feel when you saw the scales this morning? I'm off to do a bit of shopping but will check in to see how you are getting on ;)

WineGless Fri 30-Nov-12 09:24:50

BIWI -enjoy your lunch. Ate you wearing the new dress today? You will look AMAZEBALLS

toomuchmonthatendofthemoney Fri 30-Nov-12 09:43:10

Morning all, and festive jingles to newstart and the brave shoppers.

I've had a difficult week, with the lurgy doing the rounds in this house and all of us grouchy and snotty. Yesterday a friend asked if I wanted to meet her at our local garden centre type place for a nosy at the decorations, and she said she'd treat me to "a coffee". Lovely, thinks I, great to get out of the house. When I get to the little cafe bit, she is sitting grinning in front of a huge platter of carby yummies and says "I know you've had a tough couple of weeks, so I have booked us a proper afternoon tea!!" Aargh! It was so so nice of her to think of doing this for me, (she doesn't know I'm LCing I try not to be a woe/diet bore) I felt so guilty, I ate the lot with her. Mini sandwiches, scone, little cute home bakes. blush

I was full for the rest of the day so no lunch and just a half a bowl of chicken soup and a slice of cheese for tea.

Absolutely starving this morning, craving toast but am having a chicken drumstick confused as I have run out of eggs.

Viperidae Fri 30-Nov-12 10:00:47

I made a chicken casserole in the slow cooker yesterday which was much appreciated as it was ready when we came in from Xmas shopping. I cut some courgettes into thin strips with the peeler and just tipped them in on top of the casserole and let the heat warn through them before serving. It was yummy!

Looked up zoodles as somebody mentioned above and found this

Jacaqueen Fri 30-Nov-12 10:08:59

Hope you have a lovely time at lunch BIWI.

Merry Christmas Newstart and family.

Scales were a pound down this morning so I am getting close to losing 3 stone in total for this year. Most of that has been since starting Bootcamp at the end of April. So a big thank you to BIWI for starting the thread, the spreadsheet Meisters and all of you who post.

I am still feeling rubbish with this cold and chest infection. Think it has been about 4 weeks now. To make matters worse my car broke down yesterday and I still have nothing to wear to my night out next Friday. The boys break up from school 3 weeks today and I have only done about 10th of the Christmas shopping and preparations. House is a tip and I have no skin left on the end of my nose!


I weigh 38lbs less than I did 8 months go.

ParceQueJeLeVauxBien Fri 30-Nov-12 10:46:22

That's absolutely brilliant, Jac. And I hope you are free of your cold/chest infection very soon.

Have just had my hair done, and about to go and apply make-up with a trowel which I'm not really very good at, as I wear it so rarely!

caramelwaffle Fri 30-Nov-12 13:33:13

3 stone jac? Excellent!

EwanHoozami Fri 30-Nov-12 16:15:00

38lb jac that is tremendous!

toomuch ah, bless your friend. I'd have scoffed the lot too.

I have finally achieved MN fame and have made the Talk Round-Up. With a story about a mooncup FFS. Thank heavens for anonymity blush

jan2013 Fri 30-Nov-12 16:38:51

wow jac thats amazing well done! im sure ur so proud of yourself. toomuch what a lovely friend you have - no better excuse for a cheat!

cathyandclaire Fri 30-Nov-12 16:53:17

Doing dinner party tomorrow and trying to keep it low carb...at the moment it is:
Confit duck and sliced duck breast, red wine sauce, braised creamy cabbage and some other veg.
Chilli spiced chocolate mousse with chilli chocolate crisps
Cheese board.

Any ideas for starters that are a bit lighter...thought soup on top of all that may be bloomin heavy?!

cathyandclaire Fri 30-Nov-12 16:54:16

PS...amazing jac, very well done bgrin

cathyandclaire Fri 30-Nov-12 16:54:56

Err that was meant to be grin

toomuchmonthatendofthemoney Fri 30-Nov-12 17:18:13

Ooh ooh ooh just noticed the St Andrews Day smileys!!

grin smile wink

How fab. Am proud Scot.

Ilovemyteddy Fri 30-Nov-12 17:48:07

Well done jac. It's a great feeling, isn't it?!

hurricanewyn Fri 30-Nov-12 17:57:10

Cathy - no suggestions for a starter, but that dinner looks delicious
Hi Roller
Biwi - hope your meal went well, that menu looks fab
Ewan - not exactly a claim to fame you'll be telling your children & parents about grin

Thanks for everyone's concern yesterday. I went to bed early & woke up feeling great, so decided to go shopping. I was out all day & didn't have a chance to eat so now I feel properly exhausted, just wrung out. Def a day of rest tomorrow!

Dinner will be a low carb lasagne.

Hope everyone's well.

Cathy, how about something light like smoked salmon? Your menu sounds delicious btw I love duck confit.

Jac, that is a great. grin. Am not Scottish but will join in with any cause for celebration me.

On that note, it's Friday and wine time.

Doshusallie Fri 30-Nov-12 19:26:03

Chin Chin Singing grin

Jeepers what a day. managed to fit in the gym and getting my nails done as well as a whole heap of stressful work. There should be an award for time management aka skiving

Also managed all the school ironing for next week, have washed 2 x PE kits, and planned clothes for the weekend.

Next week is going to be mega stressful so I am already wishing it over - 3 job interviews, 3 high pressure client meetings, plus the usual running around for the family.

Will try and forget all about it this weekend as am off to London without kids, with DH, to see Wicked, shop on Oxford Street and stay in a nice hotel. Can't wait and will not let my stress and foreboding for next week ruin it. Keep telling myself soon I will have a super shiny new job and can leave this muddle behind.

Hope your meal was great fun Biwi!!

Your meal sounds fabulous Cathy have fun at your dinner party.

HumphreyCobbler Fri 30-Nov-12 19:31:02

Wow Jac, that is impressive.

We now have 15kg of low carb sausage mix, lots of casseroling pork, a fair few chops and a couple of joints from the pig we raised. It was very very fatty, esp compared to commercial pork, but this is not a problem for us!

I am v proud of my DH who processed all of this meat practically single handed, whilst looking after two children (one with chicken pox and one with a cold). I got offered work and we can't afford to turn it down, so left him in the lurch somewhat.

I will be able to have sausage patties for breakfast instead of bacon smile

vnmum Fri 30-Nov-12 19:48:14

Hi all well done to all who are still on the wagon and losing.

I have had a really busy and stressfull week and to top it all off today, my new childminder who i had got lined up has just dropped me in the shit by saying she doesn't want to do it anymore. She was due to start at the beginning of the new term and was willing to be flexible around my shifts. We were just sorting out details before she wrote up the contract and an hour after i last spoke to her saying we will get everything sorted, she text to say she wasn't going to do the contract as she wouldn't make as much money from me as she could potentially make from the places angry. It would have been perfect for me and i doubt i will find someone else as flexible so i am now angry, upset and stressed as to what to do. As if this week hasn't been bad enough food wise (constant biscuits and chocs out at work tempting me when i'm rushing about) i feel like falling into a big cake or bar of chocolate.
I really thought things were working out for us then this bombshell is dropped.

Anyway, enough of my woes. I hope everyone has a good weekend.

Doshusallie Fri 30-Nov-12 20:22:57

Really sorry to hear that vnmum, I can empathise with how stressful and upsetting that is for you. Wish I could say something more constructive!!!! I am confident something else will work out but I am sure that's no consolation right now. sad

Lavendersbluedillydilly1969 Fri 30-Nov-12 21:13:25

Jac 3 stone is amazing and very inspiring.

Wine, thanks, I know I need to change my idea of a treat but it's a longstanding tradition and just got the better of me this week. I've been good since so hopefully it won't cause a problem come Monday.

Today I had to skip breakfast as running late. Lunch was ham and coleslaw and dinner was pork belly and more coleslaw. Snacked on Brie (my favourite at the moment) and about 10 cups of tea with cream. Not great on the veggie from but hey ho. Managed about 2 litres of water which is better.

Reading an earlier post,can someone explain what keyogenically adjusted is and why it means a cheat shouldn't affect things too much. I know ketosis is where you burn fat for fuel but that's about it.

halfthesize Fri 30-Nov-12 21:23:28

vnmum what a rubbish thing to happen, hope things get resolved soon x

Well done Jac & Dosh and hope you had a fab lunch today BIWI

Rubbish day here for me, had some riceblush Now trying to drink loads of water!

Doshusallie Fri 30-Nov-12 21:30:01

I am waiting for my:

Chicken shashlick
Lamb bhuna
Cauliflower Bhaji
Ralak panir


nappyaddict Fri 30-Nov-12 22:05:45

Is that from a takeaway? What is in chicken shashlick, cauliflower bhaji and ralak panir?

nappyaddict Fri 30-Nov-12 22:06:57

vnmum What area are you in in case us MNers know of anybody?

Jacaqueen Fri 30-Nov-12 23:07:35

Thanks for all your lovely words.
I wasn't fishing for compliments. Infact I was a moaning to myself about how slow the weight loss was this time. But then I had a thought.

At the beginning of April I was 15st 2. Went on a crash diet before my Easter holiday and on the way home came across BIWI's pre Bootcamp thread. I started on 26th April at 14st 12. By my summer holiday at the start of July I was down to around 13 st. I more or less maintained this weight over the summer and started this Bootcamp on 1st October at that weight. Today I weighed in at 12st 6. If I can manage to lose 4 lbs in the next few weeks that will be 3 stone in 9 months.

It's hardly an earth shattering loss, but it is significant. It is certainly the most amount of consistent weight loss I have had in my adult life. If you lose a pound a week that is 52 pounds a year or 3 st 10lbs.

The best part is that I have lost this weight by eating, amongst other things, steak, salmon, cheese, cream and lovely veg. Not forgetting the nuts, dark choc and wine. Then there has been the occasional piece of nan or crusy bread, the odd spoonful of rice, the exquisite pudding etc. And lets not forget about those times when I have thought oh F it, and had the fish and chips or fudge cake!

In fact, when you look at the food I have had, you would think I should have put on about 3 stone.

I reckon I still have around 2 stone to lose. It doesn't really matter how long this takes because I know that it will happen and I know that I will have a really enjoyable time doing it.

Viperidae Sat 01-Dec-12 00:21:25

That's a brilliant post Jaq, it's really inspiring for those of us who have a long way to go knowing that it can be done while still having a normal life.

I found a lot of vegetables in my fridge that were teetering on the edge of extinction so made a cream of leftovers soup and it is bloody gorgeous!

Well done Jaq. Nearly three stone is brilliant and the slower you lose it the less likely you are to put it back on because this WOE becomes second nature.

Vnmum, I'm sorry you've been so badly let down, that really sucks. I'll keep my fingers crossed that you find someone else. Just the stress you don't need this sidevof Christmas. sad Apart from the child care problems are you enjoying the job?

I am still temptingly 2 lbs away again from losing three stone. I'm feeling a bit flabby though. My gym contract ended and I don't have the money right now so thought I'd carry on at home, I've got the Shred videos and plenty of lovely places to walk or run. Surprise, surprise I've not done a single thing. I'm blaming the puppy for taking up so much of my time but if I'm truthful there are plenty of other people to watch her, I'm just lazy and it's cold out there. My entire exercise right now is a 20 minute slow amble while the puppy sniffs at stuff.

Far too much wine, chocolate, cream and cheese is happening lately and there might have been an accidental bacon sandwich too. blush

cathyandclaire Sat 01-Dec-12 09:09:28

Thanks singing.... Smoked salmon, great idea! My mum used to do a pâté -ish thing with smoked salmon, lemon and Philadelphia , may do that with some watercress and a slice of smoked salmon too.
Quite excited now, going to wear my new Primark skinny jeans!
Happy 1st December all!

Lavendar keyogenically (sp) adjusted just means your body is used to using fat as its first point of call for its fuel. That's what the carb flu is about in the first few days that horrible feeling as it makes the switch.

Applauds Jac. Brilliant post. smile

vnmum sad. Don't know what to say. What an utterly crap thing to happen.

Hump do you slaughter your own pigs? I know somebody with a small holding in Wales that keeps pig and when we've had pork from them it is delicious, so fatty just right for us LCs.

Gorgeous sunny morning here but with a deep frost. I love days like this. grin

ParceQueJeLeVauxBien Sat 01-Dec-12 09:12:17

Morning all! Feel surprisingly well given how much wine/gin I drank yesterday blush We came home mid evening, and I switched to drinking water, which obviously helped - and most of the wine was drunk with food, of which there was plenty, so that must have made a difference.

Having eaten way too many carbs at lunch, I topped it off by making DH and I a great big bowl of chips whilst we caught up with evening telly blush

Chips?!! shock. Trust you dunked them in mayo ...... drools. Sounds like a great day.

ParceQueJeLeVauxBien Sat 01-Dec-12 09:40:50

No mayo!

It was a great day. I would have liked to sleep in for longer, but hungry cat wasn't going to let that happen. I may have to slope off for a kip later on though, especially as I'm supposed to be going to the MN London meet up this evening.

WineGless Sat 01-Dec-12 10:30:58

Morning all
My DC woke me up at 6am for the advent calendar grand opening after a 1am finish <yawn>

Jac - what an inspiring post. You have done brilliantly

Vnmum- sometimes these things work out for the best. When I went back to work the childminder let me down at the last minute too. DS ended up going into nursery which worked out really well. The nursery staff are amazing and it's such a friendly place. I found out after that the childminder had a very high turn over rate and bad reputation! It's shit though and v stressful

We are having a lazy day watching xmas dvdsand writing letters to the big man!

BIWI - you are hardcore! Enjoy the meet up

sybilfaulty Sat 01-Dec-12 10:52:33

Morning all smile

Jac - brill post. You are an inspiration. I love the fact that we all eat so well (disasters aside) on this WOE. I haven't lost anything like you (about 1,5st here) but cannot believe what wonderful food and drink has got me to do it! Amazed.

VNmum - so sorry about your childcare falling through. It is a nightmare to arrange. Hope you find a replacement very soon.

Went out last night for quiz and curry at school. Resisted the naan and rice but may have eaten a couple of poppadoms and an onion bhaji. And a gallon of wine. Today is my son's 4th birthday. He is rampaging round like a mad thing and so excited. He has been ill all week though so party has been postponed til new year. Just as well as I am too fragile for 8 4 year olds in our house. Need to make a cake for him. Feel sofa and a DVD beckoning for this afternoon.

Hello, I am still here, life is v hectic at the moment so not much time to post, especially without my iphone that went in the washing machine a little while back - due an upgrade in two weeks time so I can stop using my phone from the 80s again which will be nice!

For december I am not going to bootcamp as such as I find that I am eating high fat food and then end up also eating carby food because of everything that is going on, so I am doing what I did (successfully in dec last year). Basically porridge for breakfast then I usually have a salad or soup for lunch and then dinner is usually meat and veg. I am back taking my insulin again which also slows down my weight loss, but for me at the moment I think it is the best move as otherwise I tend to perhaps have a mince pie and then think f it and then stuff my face and then it all goes really horribly wrong. We are also still TTC #2 - it took a year of ttc after DD, then had a mc in jan/feb this year and nothing since so I think this has also affected my decision a bit, as despite reading lots of information, and despite believing that it doesn't affect it rationally, I am going back to what I was eating last december when we conceived. Anyway, sorry for the me, me, me post, I think because it has been a year since getting pregnant and mc I'm feeling a bit sorry for myself.

Jac - brilliant weight loss, you have done so well.
Dosh - good luck for the interviews this week.
BIWI - sounds like you had a lovely time last night.

Sorry I know that I have missed lots of you but hello!

mrshp not me me me at all, understandable that you're feeling a bit down, do look after yourself.

jac, your post was fab

dosh, hope it goes well this week!

biggest loser of the week: viperidae
Biggest loser so far: viperidae
biggest %age loser: boobz

well done!

apologies for being late with spreadsheet (again!) - went away yesterday to a nice hotel for our anniversary and have just got back

had an excellent meal last night, which was mostly low carb (pan-fried woodpigeon; roast lamb with spinach, garlic and olives) though i had a mouthful of pistachio shortbread, chantilly cream and raspberries. i had planned to eat it all as a treat, but actually although it was delicious just a taste was enough. i also had G&Ts and wine but they were worth it

ParceQueJeLeVauxBien Sat 01-Dec-12 16:18:24

Happy anniversary, Willie! How many years?

Off to the MN meet up soon. Although I have to say [bah humbug emoticon] that I would far rather just be staying at home in my fleecy dressing gown! But lots of people have already dropped out, which is a shame, so I will still go along. I'm sure once I've got the first bottle glass of wine down my neck I will enter into the spirit of things grin

Piffle Sat 01-Dec-12 16:23:05

Some awesome losses wowsers!

I've just finally lost my first stone!
1 more to go :-)

Today Bacon Eggs Mushrooms
Lunch - soup and pastrami and cheese
Dinner - black farmer sausages, cauliflower cheese and buttered cabbage

Snacks - dark chocolate, nuts
Dog walk done was about 40 mins

WineGless Sat 01-Dec-12 16:30:26

Mrs HP please don't be sorry for sharing how you are feeling. We are here to support one another through this journey. You've had a rotten time and you've got to do what's right for you. Hope this doesn't mean you are leaving us though?

Willie- happy anniversary! Sounds like you had a lovely time.

BIWI - hair of the dog and all that. Am working in the morning as I would have trekked down to the big smoke fir the meet up, enjoy!

DH getting curry for tea so debating what to have now. Can't wait for bedtime tbh - too old for drinking &#128521;

That meal sounds good willie

Can I just say that thanks to the dress thread I have THE dress. Size flaming 10!!!! <Squeals and run round like I have most of the day since trying it on.> Ok it's a bit of a stretchy material and I put big pants on with it but I'm ignoring that bit. The size 12 is being returned oh yes. grin grin grin

ParceQueJeLeVauxBien Sat 01-Dec-12 17:06:29



And thanks Piffle - fab news!

BIWI, I know and it's all thanks to you so have some thanks from me you absolute star. Enjoy this evening and try and get us who can't be there some gossip please. smile

MrsHP, sorry you're having a down time. Take care of yourself and do what you have to but please don't leave us.

Hurrah Piffle!

ParceQueJeLeVauxBien Sat 01-Dec-12 17:23:20

Singing - you are the one who did all the hard work, not me!

MrsHP - sorry things aren't going so well for you. But please stay with us!

Yes but if it wasn't for you starting these threads I would never had tried low carbing tbh. Thought it was a ridiculous idea that you could lose weight by eating cheese, cream, fatty crispy pork belly, celeriac dauphinois, buttery vegetables ..... and also Atkins died of a heart attack don't you know ....... yada, yada, blah, blah ....... So it IS thanks to you. I just have to do the hard part of eating delicious food! And wearing a size 10 dress and big pants for a meal out in London next week. Woo hoo!

Excellent piffle and singing! Can you link to the dress?

Enjoy the meet up biwi!

Anniversary is eight years (we met first year of university). Yes people are constantly asking when we're going to get married!

ParceQueJeLeVauxBien Sat 01-Dec-12 17:46:20

Big pants are a fabulous invention. Fact.

toomuchmonthatendofthemoney Sat 01-Dec-12 18:22:58

vnmum really hope things turn out for the best for you and an even better solution comes up
biwi you rock! Reeespect for pulling a double nighter!
mrshp please stay with us, we would miss you.
piffle viper and singing well done!!!
willie happy anniversary!

Hope I haven't missed anyone, am typing while cooking, feeding dog, sorting Ds broken Lego and trying to hang up washing. You know, a typical glamorous Saturday night chez toomuch.

B yoghurt with nuts
S cappuccino at M&S cafe blush
L scrambled eggs with butter and cream
D a sort of version of the IPD butter chicken, don't have all the spices but have chucked in what I have and will see how it turns out. Smelling ok so far!

Have a good night everyone, whatever you are up to.

Willie, I tried to link but the iPad is stropping about it. Will have see what I can do. I think you should get married. We can have the first wedding of the thread. grin

ParceQueJeLeVauxBien Sat 01-Dec-12 18:36:44

That's lovely!

WineGless Sat 01-Dec-12 18:39:27

Ooh singing that's gorgeous!

jan2013 Sat 01-Dec-12 18:45:40


That dress is heavenly!

Thank you all. I love it. Even DH looked up from the rugby to comment. Miracle.

Anyway, enough of dress. Willie, when are you getting married? Are we all invited? grin

Doshusallie Sat 01-Dec-12 21:15:18

Hi all. In interval at Wicked. Great show, am a bit wobbly from copious gins. Food fine so far apart from small tube of Pringles.... blush

Dress is amazeballs.

Nappy - chicken shashlick was basically chicken kebab. Cauliflower bhaji was cauliflower in a sauce. Ralak panir was cheesy spinach. All divine.

Having a great time in London town, can feel an inapproropriate dinner coming on however....

Dosh, sounds like good night. Last show we saw was Jersey Boys which was great. Enjoy late dinner. Obviously we will need to know what you ate. smile

Ha no time soon I'm afraid! It will happen but we are house hunting and that is enough planning for the time being

(Incidentally, wouldn't a hog roast be a fab low carb wedding/big party meal? Sadly can't do that with dp as half his family is Jewish)

Willowisp Sat 01-Dec-12 22:04:27

I've been deleted from the spreadsheet....[wails] sad

Can you out me back please ? I'm 112.05 lbs

Doshusallie Sat 01-Dec-12 23:26:36

Kentucky fried chicken. Whoops. No chips though.

ParceQueJeLeVauxBien Sat 01-Dec-12 23:46:28

<glosses over this evening>
Normal service resumed tomorrow

mirai Sun 02-Dec-12 00:01:33

Hi all, I'm new! I'm interested in this WOE but have a question about lunch.

I have to take lunch to work with me as there is no canteen or shops nearby. Usually I would take in a sandwich or make some chicken and pasta/rice. I'm struggling to think what I could prepare and take in? There's no kitchen at work although there is a microwave.

Finally, I live abroad so I couldn't buy any pre-packaged lunches from M&S or Boots, say! Is there any hope?? smile

ParceQueJeLeVauxBien Sun 02-Dec-12 00:02:50

Welcome, mirai!

Why not take leftovers from your dinner the night before?

mirai Sun 02-Dec-12 00:15:13

I could do, basically replacing the pasta with more veg? That's easy enough! smile I've just downloaded Briffa's book so going to have a read!

ParceQueJeLeVauxBien Sun 02-Dec-12 00:44:47

Once you get into the habit of cooking low carb meals, it's easy enough to make extra, so you have stuff to take into work the next day.

Otherwise - a bag of salad, some ham/tinned tuna/cheese, oil/vinegar dressing and Bob's your uncle! grin

caramelwaffle Sun 02-Dec-12 00:49:38

How on earth are you typing coherently on here?

Havn't you just been to a meet up? hmmgrin

ParceQueJeLeVauxBien Sun 02-Dec-12 00:51:33


I left early. (It's my usual strategy)

ParceQueJeLeVauxBien Sun 02-Dec-12 00:52:20

Sometimes it's more successful than others! Tonight I definitely got away 'in time', IYSWIM

caramelwaffle Sun 02-Dec-12 00:52:55

Ah grin

Oh. Hats. grin

Lavendersbluedillydilly1969 Sun 02-Dec-12 08:24:03

Hello all, my phones playing up this morning and won't let me read the thread but hope everyone's ok and no one is finding it too hard this week.

DH and I had an extremely rare night out last night (first for a year), and decided to go and see Skyfall. We had a meal first and I fell off the wagon big time blush. Had onion soup with crusty bread to start, a Christmassy turkey dinner with all the trimmings, a bucket sized glass of rosé and a Baileys coffee. Then followed that with popcorn and chocolate at the cinema.

The funny thing is I had to force myself to eat most of it but I did as it was a 'treat'.

This morning I haven't dared weigh myself and I feel lousy. How stupid can I be this close to the end of camp. It does however tell me I need to buy a ton of things like Brie and ham for Christmas as snacking on Celebrations just isn't what I really want this year. Unfortunately the wine and Baileys slipped down very easily.

Do I need to fast today to minimise the damage or eat normally do you think?

vnmum Sun 02-Dec-12 08:35:46

morning all. whip I am loving the job. really thought life couldn't get better until the childcare thing reared it's ugly head.
nappy I am just outside Salisbury, near amesbury.

luckily my temp solution is ok to carry on for a bit longer so that gives me chance to sort something out. also DH should find out just before Xmas what is happening with his injury which means I will then know if I need to factor a deployment into my childcare needs or not.

It's my sons 7th birthday today. we will be building Lego smile

congrats on all the big losses and new dresses.

welcome to mirai. I just take salad with avocado or olives to up the fat, with some protein

Lavender, I'd just get back on the low carb bandwagon today with loads of water. Tbh, I've had a few fasting days mainly through not being hungry and it hasn't made a bit of difference. Think vnmum and BIWI found the same.

Welcome Mirai. smile

Lavendersbluedillydilly1969 Sun 02-Dec-12 09:05:08

iPads working ok thank God.

Thanks singing, have had some water already so will just eat the basics today and drink more. Might delay weighing till tues though, just cross with myself that I ate the rubbish even though I wasn't enjoying it.

ParceQueJeLeVauxBien Sun 02-Dec-12 09:58:06

It's a useful thing to do, though, Lavender, because it really does open your eyes to what you like/don't like to eat. To find that something that previously you would have devoured is becoming something you feel you 'have' to eat is a very interesting experience! And if it's making you feel poorly, well surely that's telling you that your body really doesn't need it?

There will always be times that you fall off the wagon - either because you have no choice or because you want to. But where you have the choice, you can now exercise that more selectively.

IME, the best thing to do is to have a couple of really strict days. Keep your carbs as low as you can, keep your fat levels up and drink lots of water. It should only take a couple of days to get back on track.

Happy birthday Mastervnmum!

EwanHoozami Sun 02-Dec-12 11:12:28

I'm joining you in the norty corner, lavender . I was so good at what could have been a v difficult lunch and ate really well. Lots of people I hadn't seen for ages commenting on my non-podge.

I then got pissed on red wine and ate pizza for tea.

WHY? I'm such a twat, it wasn't even nice.

<presents arse for a whooping>

Hi mirai smile I often cook up a no-crust quiche and eat it over few lunches or fill a tupperware with cold meats, cheese and some roasted asparagus and broccoli or something similar.

EwanHoozami Sun 02-Dec-12 11:37:25

Hello! Thank you all very much, I wasn't planning on leaving, just not quite fully bootcamping if that is OK and see how I go with that for a few weeks.

I went out with my netball team for our christmas social and drank my body weight (which remember is BIG) in cocktails and shots. I have not drunk like that since I was about 18. It was very, very funny though and I am still drunk giggling about it now!

Sadly, unlike BIWI I didn't manage to get home until nearly 3 am, and then couldn't open my door and had to ring DH to come and let me in. Turns out this morning I was trying to open my front door with the keys to my classroom. Oops.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Sun 02-Dec-12 16:44:08


caramelwaffle Sun 02-Dec-12 17:06:14

Hope it all works out for you vnmum

MrsHP grin

Doshusallie Sun 02-Dec-12 17:32:20

Mrs HP!! You've let yourself down, you've let the bootcamp down, you've let the school down............grin grin grin Sounds hilarious.

Had a great weekend in London with DH - our feet are sore from walking the length or Oxford Street several times. Dh is so funny in London, he never goes there and is always a buit bemused by the tube etc.

Apart from the alcohol and the Kentucky Fried Chicken, oh and the pringles, food wise was good! bacon and scrambled eggs for brekkie in the hotel. Am now having a courgette, chorizo, bacon, onion and cheese frittata. once I have finished this glass of wine it will be water all the way

Bracing self for nightmare week at work.

sybilfaulty Sun 02-Dec-12 18:38:14

Mrs HP, how funny!

Had a lovely melanzane parmigiana at Pizza Exp today for DS's birthday. How did my baby get to be 4? It was a cold crisp day and we walked about 4 miles in total so were beyond frozen by the time we got home.

Dosh, sympathies on the work front. I am in the same boat this week and am terrified. Still, only 5 more days to go to the weekend.

Have a good evening everyong.

Viperidae Sun 02-Dec-12 21:32:26

I too have sinned this weekend (lucky i moved my weighing day to a Friday grin so weighed before the sinning began!) It's odd because I also didn't really enjoy it. I suppose this lack of physical enjoyment of naughty foods is what thin people have naturally, now we just have to break that mental habit of seeing these foods as an indulgence and we'll have won the battle!

vnmum Glad the job is going well. Good luck with the childminding. I'm sure something will work out, it always does (and I say that as one who has suffered some childcare dramas in my time!)

MrsHP Your night out sounds fantastic fun.

We had our first Christmas party last night and have spent today putting the trees and decorations up. DH is about to spontaneously combust over a set of tree lights that work until you put them on the tree then they don't! I swear he is the only methodically minded engineery type that can lose all sense of symmetry and balance and get 90% of the lights concentrated into a very small part of the tree. Am now off to correct it!

jan2013 Mon 03-Dec-12 07:08:07

happy bday sybils ds
hope everything works out vnmum sad hopefully all this means someone better will come along

i am trying to get myself syked to put christmas decos up for the 2 of us this year and dd won't really understand. itl'l be very strange but have to just get myself into christmassy mood and make the effort.

i made a quiche yesterday for today! inspired by the crustless quiche recipie posted. hopefully it will turn out.

and i have a little job interview this morning. nothing major, i don't know if they can give me the hours i need anyway. but it would help if i got something

have a good day everyone

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas Mon 03-Dec-12 07:32:20

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