Week 1 Weigh-In - Little Black Dress Low Carb Boot Camp

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i know you're all dying to get started on the low carb boot camp, and for those who haven't done this before, here is the link to the spreadsheet where you should record your starting weight for Monday 1st October in column c next to your name. Please don't touch any other columns for now

weight is recorded in lbs, so if you have problems converting from kg or stones, FiddledeFat made a handy widget which can be found in the tab at the bottom labelled 'conversion'

if your name isn't on the spreadsheet then you can add yourself by adding a new line and dragging the formulae down from an adjacent row, or just ask me to add you and I will do so as soon as i can

good luck with the first week of bootcamp!

vnmum Sun 30-Sep-12 16:45:13

Marking place for tomorrow. I have a feeling it won't be a good number blush

Jacaqueen Sun 30-Sep-12 18:15:37

Just marking so I can find the thread in the morning.

Doshusallie Sun 30-Sep-12 18:20:52

Marking place. God what a weigh in to start on after the last few days. Oh well, it should put me in the right frame of mind!

I have added myself but don't think in the right place! blush

Levantine Sun 30-Sep-12 20:06:27

Great thanks, will add now. My blinking scales are broken, but I certainly haven't lost weight in the last three days, so will add what I think I am. I am going to measure myself too

NewStartSameStory Sun 30-Sep-12 20:10:09

Vnmum - mine won't be either. You won't be alone with that.

MegTheCat Sun 30-Sep-12 22:02:59

just tried to add myself but was in wrong place. Will try again tomorrow when i've weighed.

frumpet Sun 30-Sep-12 22:12:29

Really sorry but have never done spread sheets before , tried to put my details in and not sure how to save the info , could someone tell me how to , or do it for me ? starting weight 230 llbs

Ilovemyteddy Mon 01-Oct-12 07:25:45

Have added new weight and marking place on the thread. Good luck everyone.

wornout, i've moved you to alphabetical order

megthecat i've added you

frumpet it saves automatically, so you're fine

bad start to the morning, overslept so had cheese for breakfast in the car rather than planned scrambled eggs... not how i wanted to start bootcamp! also think i am coming down with something, the first bug i've had since starting low carb in feb

WineGless Mon 01-Oct-12 07:39:48

Ok have done it. It's not a pretty number

vnmum Mon 01-Oct-12 07:48:38

Mine neither gless
I am back upto being in the 10's sad 10 stone this morning. It's my own fault. onwards and downwards

WineGless Mon 01-Oct-12 07:56:06

Vnmum- yes it's all my own fault.
Onwards and downwards <pumps hands in air>

JessicaWakefield Mon 01-Oct-12 08:37:06

Done! There was a flicker at 8 stone 13 before the scales settled at 9 but the split second of seeing an 8 on the display is going to remind me that nothing tastes as good as being slim! Good luck today everyone!

BigStickBIWI Mon 01-Oct-12 08:44:52

Let's keep this thread bumped to force remind people to come and record their start weights!

noddyholder Mon 01-Oct-12 08:56:55


SkaffenAmtiskaw Mon 01-Oct-12 08:58:01

Done! smile

WendyWobble Mon 01-Oct-12 09:01:53

Please can i join, have been lurking for months and have been doing a kind of lightweight version. Time to get serious. Today I weigh 8st 13lbs, I am 5.3 tall and I want to lose 6lbs. Having fried egg, mushrooms and spinach all cooked in butter. Looking forward to doing this with this supportive group, wish everyone good luck.

WendyWobble Mon 01-Oct-12 09:03:52

I am not too sure how do do the spreadsheet, bit scared of messing it up! could you please add me williewaggledagger.

pixiestix Mon 01-Oct-12 09:04:46

Morning! I've done something wrong, sorry. I put my weight in but when I went back it hadn't saved blush Would you mind adding me Willie - I'm 152.25 this morning.

pixiestix Mon 01-Oct-12 09:06:05

<links arms with Wendy in the non-tech corner>

Pufflemum Mon 01-Oct-12 09:10:45

Right I've added myself (i think!). 126 lbs which may not sound much but is the heaviest I have ever been apart from when pregnant. Boiled eggs for breakfast and have some naice ham to look forward to for lunch.

PortiaPony Mon 01-Oct-12 09:22:36

Will add my weight once i'm at home, it wasn't nice and was the heaviest i've been in so long. Grrr at work IT security policy that doesn't allow access to google docs.

WendyWobble Mon 01-Oct-12 09:23:17

Thanks pixie, I appreciate your solidarity, but you can do the'name in bold' thing so you are clearly streets ahead!grin

BigStickBIWI Mon 01-Oct-12 09:23:54

grin at non-tech corner! That's why I didn't do the spreadsheet

dotty2 Mon 01-Oct-12 09:25:36

Having dithered about doing this several times before, I am going to give it a go. Have entered my rather scary weight. Eggs and spinach for breakfast, so a good start. It's DH's birthday on Thursday though, which might present a willpower challenge.

BigStickBIWI Mon 01-Oct-12 09:32:13

Welcome! What are you planning to do for his birthday? Perhaps we can help you with a good strategy to maximise your willpower!

dotty2 Mon 01-Oct-12 09:37:21

Well his main celebration was a weekend away, which has just been. On the day was planning to bake cake to eat with the DCs and then cook a delicious meal for the two of us for the evening. Meal=no problem. Lots of lovely lowcarb options. I might just find it hard to pass on the cake (and wine).

ForSaletotheHighestBidder Mon 01-Oct-12 09:37:41

Weighed in this morning and updated sheet.
Had egg salad for breakfast, feel a bit smelly!

Lunch will probably be tuna salad. Dinner not sure but probably a beef casserole I made on Saturday. >Runs to check carb content of carrots and parnsips<

Drinking lots of water and low carbing most of the time since Friday, I am peeing and poohing a LOT but haven't lost any weight. Is that normal.. blush

ferfuxake Mon 01-Oct-12 09:41:28

I have added myself but might have done it wrong! Have been meaning to join you all for ages but have rubbish willpower. However seeing the scales at 12 stone this morning-almost as much as when pregnant gave me the kick up the backside I really need.

Willowisp Mon 01-Oct-12 09:45:52

My name's on the list & I am in !

Drinking coffee with jersey full fat milk...fresh (frozen) mackerel for lunch with salad, macadamia's for snack & veggies + protein for tea.

I've got my too-tight-clothes all lined up & I need your support...or maybe Biwi's Big Stick grin

renaldo Mon 01-Oct-12 09:47:35

I've added myself and hope its ok almost 80 kgs blush

toomuchmonthatendofthemoney Mon 01-Oct-12 09:50:41

Ah here you are, I just commented on one of the other threads so apologies for repeating myself.

Am 5'8", medium athletic build with big Norks, and this morning was 170 lbs.

For the last time ever !!!!! I swear!!!!

Aiming for under 155.

BigStickBIWI Mon 01-Oct-12 09:55:36


ForSale - I'd pick out as many of the carrots and parsnips you can - they are carby veg

BigStickBIWI Mon 01-Oct-12 09:57:08

.... and what do you mean 'low carbing most of the time'?! This isn't a very forgiving WOE (way of eating), so if you're switching from low to high carbs, you won't be getting your body to move away from carb-burning into fat-burning mode, which is what we need to do to get the weight shifted.

BigStickBIWI Mon 01-Oct-12 09:59:55

Not even 10.00 am and I'm shouting already grin

ForSaletotheHighestBidder Mon 01-Oct-12 10:02:06

Sorry BigStick lady, I had tapas on Friday night, meat and cheese only, some olives, but had a couple of glasses of red wine. blush

Will avoid the beef stew tonight, rest of family can polish that off. Will have some fish or chicken and green veg, thanks.

ForSaletotheHighestBidder Mon 01-Oct-12 10:03:00

You seem like a lovely person, BIWI.
Shitting myself with fear, will not eat a parsnip.

Doshusallie Mon 01-Oct-12 10:03:07

BIWI are we only on this thread now? Multiple threads is really confusing, and I don,t want to miss any chat!

I have entered on spreadsheet, lower than expected, due to falling asleep at 7.30 and skipping tea I expect!

Dinner party on Saturday, which will present a real challenge.

Brekkie was two spoons of Greek yog (finishing off tub) and 2 boiled eggs.

caramelwaffle Mon 01-Oct-12 10:05:27


The hardest thing is drinking 2-3 litres of water a day: thank goodness I really like F/H tea.

MmeLindor Mon 01-Oct-12 10:15:36

Joining in. My scales need new batteries, so will have to start weighing tomorrow.

Off to make poached eggs for breakfast.

NigellasGuest Mon 01-Oct-12 10:20:19

I have just entered my weight on the spreadsheet, and used the conversion gizmo for the first time - very useful and easy so thanks for that, fiddledefat!

Unfortunately despite starting my own bootcamp a week or so ago, I am still frigging 10 stone exactly. Feeling extremely frustrated. Have had boiled egg and FF mayo for breakfast.


Ive just seen were not using the other thread... So her i am!

Weighed in on the spreadsheet this morning too! Feeling happy bootcamps here once again!

My tummys rumbling... Cant wait for my lunch! Ill post my menu for today again..

B- slice if chicken
L- will be chicken thighs (2) with salad of lettuce pickled red cabbage, cucumber and some shredded parmesan! Maybe a boiled egg too!
D- chicken breast wrapped in bacon with savoy cabbage, green beans and some spinach and mushrooms smile

ZZMum Mon 01-Oct-12 10:32:24

Thank you to the spreadsheet fairy who just sorted me out! I am now in smile

dollyxdaydreamer Mon 01-Oct-12 10:40:33

Weighed in and breakfasted on scrambled egg with double cream, butter and spinach. Had 1l of water so far. Lunch will be broccoli cheese soup and dinner will be something with chicken and veg. Happy eating everyone!

pixiestix Mon 01-Oct-12 10:48:34

BIWI is it a complete disaster if we drink tea as normal? (Please don't hit me with your big stick) Not that I'm totally addicted or anything blush

BigStickBIWI Mon 01-Oct-12 10:53:23

pixie - it depends how much milk you're putting in it. Tea isn't a problem per se, as far as I know, but if you're sloshing milk in each cup then there are two issues. Firstly some people have issues with dairy, and it can impede weight loss. Second, the carbs will quickly add up.

EwanHoozami Mon 01-Oct-12 10:55:44

Morning - splendid to see you all here.

I'm on - 160lb on the scales this morning. Have been LC'ing for a month and have seen some pleasing early effects (10lb off) but Now I Am Serious.

B: Mushroom omelette
L: Roast pork with cucumber, celery and mayo
D: Tuna and grilled aubergine and courgette salad

Recipe fans: I tried the Nigel Slater beef dish from the Observer last night and it was revolting He was rhapsodising about how one can make diced beef wondrous by pan-frying it and adding cream sauce. I suspect fried tractor tyre would have been more succulent.

Not one for the recipe thread grin

Marking my place, have added this mornings weight to the spreadsheet

Oooh, how exciting grin

GoldenOrangeWhippoorwhill Mon 01-Oct-12 11:18:24

Checking in from the Premier Inn in Christchurch. I had the mixed grill in the adjoining Beefeater last night. Had salad with it and only stole 4 chips from my husband. I also didn't eat the onion rings but I don't actually like them so that was no hardship. smile We shared a bottle of red wine and had a G and slimline T. First one since I started this diet and it was far too sweet.

Breakfast was pretty processed but nice, sausage, bacon, mushrooms and poached eggs and two pots of full fat plain yoghurt. It felt quite amazinly decadent to be taking the butter pats from the bready area to put on my eggs. Am too stuffed to move now so flumped on the bed Mumsnetting.

No idea how much I weigh but was 11 stone 2 lbs before we went away. Bet I'm not any more.

Jacaqueen Mon 01-Oct-12 11:19:29

Is this the chat thread?

I am going to try and break my tea addiction this week. This morning for the first time in years I did not have a cup of tea with milk. Just had some hot water and an now having chamomile. I can easily use up about 10 g of carbs per day in milk if I am not careful.

caramelwaffle Mon 01-Oct-12 11:26:49

Yes, or no to Sun dried tomatoes in oil?

100g drained

234 cal Protein 6.8g Carbohydrates 22.1g (sugars 8.2g) Fat 13.8g

BigStickBIWI Mon 01-Oct-12 11:28:24

Yes, Jac - we'll stay on the one thread, I think, although I will start a fresh one each week.

caramel - I think those are a bit carby, but it depends how many of them you're having/what else you're eating.

caramelwaffle Mon 01-Oct-12 11:30:12

Plain chicken breast and spinach. Think I'll go the leeks fried in butter for taste instead. Thanks for answer.

NotAgainAndAgain Mon 01-Oct-12 11:34:28

I added my line not realising I am already there! Thank you for that!
I hope I did not mess it up by removing the added to the bottom line a duplicate of my dear self.
For breakfast Greek yogurt with 10 raspberries. I kinda know that raspberries no good for the bootcamp start - but can't do plain. None allowed at all?
Swear to go eggs tomorrow.

ABitWoozy Mon 01-Oct-12 11:34:55

Ooh a recipe thread? Shall have to seek that one out, have spent the last month eating mainly boiled eggs and salad, yawn.

Beef in cream sauce can indeed be wondrous, Ewan, cook minute steaks, take out of pan, slosh double cream in with the juices till thickened, loads of salt and pepper and stick the lot on top of a salad... Best. Meal. Ever. (So dh says anyway, his standards aren't so high due to my rubbish cooking )

wordfactory Mon 01-Oct-12 11:38:40

Hi guys.
I have no scales at home, so can't put in my weight. Around ten stone, I supsect. I will order some online later.

Had scrambled eggs for breakfast.

SpeckleDust Mon 01-Oct-12 11:43:43

Just added my weight to the spreadsheet. I'm already having second thoughts about doing Bootcamp but I'd started introducing far too many carbs on a daily basis (lemon drizzle cake, crisps, rice, to name a few) so this ought to act as a reset.

B: Scrambled egg
L: Chicken soup (carcass stock + veggies + scraps of chicken from carcass)
D: Not sure yet....

Had the most amazing omelette with a very little extra mature cheddar this morning, lots of water, green salad with cold tandoori chicken and an espresso for lunch and starting to think about dinner but not really hungry. I've even fed the kids and wasn't interested in their leftovers at all - amazing!

I actually started yesterday as I had a crazy day today with work and didn't want to feel too rough. It worked out that I spent 3 hours yesterday (my day 1) at a 4th birthday party resisting pizza, crisps, wine and birthday cake ("go on, it's only a small piece" ... "er no thanks, I'm scared of BIWI trying to be good"). Anyhoo, did well yesterday, then fatally weighed myself this morning and hadn't lost an ounce.

DH announced yesterday that we have been invited to a colleague's house for dinner on Friday ... why is it I can go for weeks not being invited anywhere and now I have birthday parties and dinner invitations coming out of my ears? Gah!

bonjour! im here, breakfast was cheese and meat and salad. weird but filling. grin

hellsbells99 Mon 01-Oct-12 11:56:34

I am joining you all if that's ok. My weight is ridiculous so I need all the help and support I can get! Scrambled eggs for breakfast smile

Viperidae Mon 01-Oct-12 12:11:37

I am here and ready to roll (almost literally with my body shape at the moment!) I have done a bit of exercise today which is a good start too.

I am putting 100 in the weight column and counting down as I don't want to use my actual weight. I'm very much bigger than the rest of you and am ready to make changes but not ready to see my weight written down even if you don't all know me in person!

Have started off with scrambled eggs for breakfast although I did have 2 small rashers of streaky bacon with it. Can someone remind me why no processed food please? I tend to view it, probably irrationally as "good processed" like bacon, ham, smoked fish, etc which I do eat and "bad processed" like ready meals, stuff containing mechanically recovered, unrecognisable meat, etc which I don't.

I am off to buy some fizzy water later to replace my Coke addiction. Am I right to stick to unflavoured? I can't imagine the sugar free flavoured ones to be much better than Coke but don't know if I'm right or not.

Good luck everybody.

GreenEyesAndHam Mon 01-Oct-12 12:21:22

Added my weight to the spreadsheet.

Breakfast was egg, bacon and sausage. Lunch will be...small, I'm still stuffed from breakfast.

here is the recipe thread

lots of fab things on there, and winegless has been nobly adding things to the low carb recipe section on MN too

here is some guidance on adding yourself to the spreadsheet for those who feel they need it:

1. find your place in the alphabetical list

2. right-click on the line number on the far left of the name that goes alphabetically before yours (this will highlight the whole row)

3. select 'insert 1 below' in the menu that pops up

4. add your name in column A

5. write 01-Oct-2012 in column B

6. add your current weight in lb in column C

if you are up to it, then you can drag the formulae from the row above too, but don't worry if you don't feel you can do that. also, if you have been low carbing since before the start of this bootcamp and would like your loss to date added to the spreadsheet, just let me know your start date and start weight and I will get those added

mumtoblaire Mon 01-Oct-12 12:27:55

Not sure which thread to post on so have copied post from 6am and will post here from now on.

I have filled in weight on spreadsheet - 140 lbs

For breakfast

2 boiled eggs
cup of decaf tea with 50ml soya milk - 0.1 gram carb

snack at 10am

2 x slice of cheese and some ham
try to get through 1.5ml water before twelve

Never even felt hungry this morningshock and was shocked when it was lunch as I hadn't ate my snack yet. So snack became lunch with some cucumber, mayo and beautiful extra virgin oil oil.

I have drunk my water and managed not to have any tea at work. I am a total tea addict and can get through 6-7 cups at work - all with a big splash of semi-skimmed milk.

MmeLindor Mon 01-Oct-12 12:40:33

Am drinking lots of water and thinking that I might get the loo downstairs repaired sooner rather than later.

Lunch will be chicken with green beans and cream - I bought some lovely creme de gruyere this weekend.

How strict are we being with the alcohol? Am I allowed a bottle glass of champagne to celebrate today is book publishing day?

Bacon and egg
Salad nicoise
Broccoli cheese soup
Spring chicken & LCD veg

Walked/cycled school run
Swam almost a mile

Exhausted but pleased.

Thank you for all the encouragement

Shagmundfreud Mon 01-Oct-12 12:43:58

Breakfast - latte made with 50mls lactose free milk
Protein shake - scoop unflavoured whey protein powder, water, vanilla extract and 30mls lactose free cream).

Lunch - big bowl of home-made coleslaw (only cabbage, no carrot).

Not weighed myself today. Was waiting to have an ...ahem... big poo first.


halfthesize Mon 01-Oct-12 12:47:00

Morning ladies

Well after disaster of a weekend with too much wine, food(including) crisps and treacle pud, weigh in was not good, gained 4lbs since Fridayblush

Start weight 9st!!!

Good luck everyonesmile

Breakfast was prawns was in a rush and got builders in!
Lunch - soup
Dinner - Chicken with lemon tyme and cream served with veg

Ilovemyteddy Mon 01-Oct-12 12:49:19

Hellsbells99 - I was your weight when I started this in mid-Jan and am now 58lbs lighter, so wanted to say to you that if you stick to this WOE you will see the weight come off. I had a couple of blips on two holidays and put a bit back on, but one week of getting back to LC-ing and the weight shifted. I'm not 'good' all the time - I have to have my latte in the morning in order to function - but the weight keeps slowly going down. I don't drinkwine very often, however, which helps smile

Good luck!

I weighed myself before my shower this morning and was 166.4lbs. I weighed myself AFTER my shower because I'd forgotten what weight I was (stayed up late to watch the Ryder Cup - woohoo!) and was 165.2lb...I must have been really dirty grin I decided to go with the higher weight on the spreadsheet.

Viperidae - I'm a bit naughty when it comes to processed food (the 'good' kind that you talk about) and it doesn't seem to have affected my weight. But Bootcamp is also supposed to be about eating healthily, which is why it's a no-no for the next two weeks. Definitely unflavoured water - we are trying to break the addiction to sweet stuff too - even if it's sweetened artificially it's still not good. I've got a feeling that unfizzy water is better than fizzy, but can't remember why.

Hang in there! This WOE works (and I've tried all sorts of 'diets' before which don't work in the longterm.)

NewStartSameStory Mon 01-Oct-12 12:49:49

I have decided this drinking water thing is dangerous!!!!. I have just coughed water out of my nose. It is not to be recommended. And now I am here to confess that I need BIWI to clout me with that big stick of hers. 1st day and have had a fuck up. Coffee with milk and sugar. Am hoping that due to the high high high quantities of carbs I would normally consume lets e honest I pretty much only eat carbs normally this will just stop my tipping into wtf fuck do you think you are trying to do? No caffine or carbs? You are insane thus must suffer body response serious carb crash.

4 hours sleep is also not the best way to go. Day of meetings so food looks like this:

Breakfast: 2 soft boiled eggs
Meeting: 2 cups coffee
Lunch: 3 sausages + 3/4 ltr water
Tea will be cottage pie without the potato and extra veg if I am organised.

Tomo is going to hurt. Early night is definitely on order. I might die from lack of caffine. 3lts coke to nil is going to hurt

To those who else look at these 10stone figures that people are posting and think I am dreaming of being that. I am joining you I am 80kg - almost 12 1/2 stone. I am aiming for 70kg for now. I want to be there before Christmas. A stone and half to lose to achieve that.

MmeLindor Mon 01-Oct-12 12:51:05

Anyone got good ideas for lunches to take into work? I am a bit stumped on that one.

CobOnTheCorn Mon 01-Oct-12 12:55:12

I'm on the spreadsheet so it's official - I'm bootcamping!

I had boiled eggs for breakfast and some chicken for lunch with caesar dressing, olives and cucumber.

I'm drinking some decaf coffee with a spash of cream to warm me up.

We're going out for dinner so I'm going to look at the menu in advance and make a choice before I feel too hungry and get swayed by looking at other diner's plates!

Spamspamspam Mon 01-Oct-12 12:55:32

Spreadsheet going very very slow for me and doesn't really want to co-operate so could someone pretty please put my starting weight on which is 166 lbs (despite being 164 on Thursday, Friday and Saturday grrrrrr).

Thanks muchly grin

halfthesize Mon 01-Oct-12 12:56:18

Mme homemade soup or salad are always easy. smile

Ilovemyteddy Mon 01-Oct-12 12:57:53

MmeLindor - I usually take salad and cold meat and make a kind of wrap out of the meat with the salad in the middle, but since we are on bootcamp how about tuna salad, or any kind of fishy salad (gotta keep that Omega6 up!) Otherwise homemade veg soup (there is a lovely curried cauliflower soup in the IPD book and I think it's on the recipe thread) and Getorf posted a gorgeous mackerel pate recipe early on on the recipe thread which is yummy with iceberg lettuce leaves wrapped around it.

Now tell me you don't like fish... grin

cartblanche Mon 01-Oct-12 12:59:12

Right time to start again! Have entered my weight and as BIWI has said this WOE is VERY unforgiving. I have put 6 pounds since last Monday because I have eaten bread and pizza. SO if I am strict this week I will expect to take most if not all of this OFF again. I have done this so many times I am not going to get excited till I have lost a whole stone. I have too much experience of losing it quick and gaining it quick.

12 weeks till Christmas.

Would like to lose a stone and a half.

So far today have eaten:
3 scrambled eggs, 3 sausages (97% meat)
1 herbal tea & 1 decaf coffee with semi-skimmed milk (shouldn't have had the milk!)

BigStickBIWI Mon 01-Oct-12 13:01:23

NotAgainandAgain NO FRUIT ON BOOTCAMP! Seriously. We're not only trying to keep the carbs low in these two weeks, we're also trying to break the addiction to sweet things. If you can't face yoghurt without them, then maybe give the yoghurt a miss as well? Or - try putting some vanilla extract in. (Check it hasn't got sugar in it first though)

MmeLindor woo hoo! I think we should allow you to have a glass but not the whole bottle of Champagne tonight! Re lunches - do you have a kitchen/microwave at work?

Viperidae - we're trying to avoid processed foods because of the artificial ingredients in them. However, you can eat things like bacon/ham/smoked fish - just not for every meal or every day! And I agree with you, there are degrees of being processed! Buy naice hem (obviously - you're a MNetter!) and good quality bacon.

NewStartSameStory sorry about your nose grin. If you have to have coffee - and I do! - can you at least use an artificial sweetener rather than sugar, to cut the carbs? I know that runs counter to the rules and other advice I'm giving, but withdrawal from caffeine at the same time as carbs could make you feel pretty shitty. You may need to do this a bit more gradually - get off the carbs first and then look at the coffee situation.

frumpet Mon 01-Oct-12 13:06:06

Oh dear day one and i am not doing so well , forgot to buy cream , so had two coffee's with skimmed milk , then was half way through can of diet coke before remembering it was verbotten! Have drunk lots of water , infact i believe the way this diet works is that you spend so much time on loo , you havent time to indulge in anything naughty. Also didnt get time to eat breakfast , very bad again , just had some ham smothered in full fat cream cheese and rolled up for lunch . But its a learning curve and i am already working out how to be very good tomorrow smile

BigStickBIWI Mon 01-Oct-12 13:08:18

Don't worry, frumpet - two coffees should be fine and one Diet Coke isn't going to ruin anything. As you're finding, planning ahead is key on this WOE.

frumpet Mon 01-Oct-12 13:14:38

I got up so late this morning , as my alarm clock decided to have a lie in , on a monday morning , not a saturday or sunday , oh no . The child who wakes at 6 every morning , woke at 7.50 ............!

newstart sorry about your nose issue... But i really did LOL at this! I too am finding the water consumption tricky! Wish we had a downstairs loo!!

Kickboxer Mon 01-Oct-12 13:20:13

Filled in my weight on the spreadsheet (how utterly and completely depressing...!!!)

Breakfast: scrambled eggs with ham and mushrooms
Lunch: sausages (leftovers)
Water: 1 litre
Exercise: Kickboxing (which is why I managed to drink so much water!)

Just checked the rules. Eeek! 3 litres of water???!!! Will have to rejig the number of glasses I have to drink – I had measured how much water each one had so knew exactly how many I needed to get through.

Just off to browse the recipe section now.

NewStart - I'm up there with you, I'm 82 kg so really, really need to lose some of this weight.

Kickboxer Mon 01-Oct-12 13:20:45

Oh and I'd better add the 3 cups of tea, although I drink them black so no damage to my carbs!

BigStickBIWI Mon 01-Oct-12 13:32:00

You do get used to drinking the water, honestly!

wishes I had shares in Andrex

btw the spreadsheet works much better in google chrome than explorer

NigellasGuest Mon 01-Oct-12 13:41:52

is google chrome really good?
was thinking of changing to it

WineGless Mon 01-Oct-12 13:42:28

Re the water I buy a 750 ml bottle and know I have to Drink 4 to get my 3 L in For the day. There is some evidence to support drinking out the sports top Bottle makes it easier to drink something about fooling your mind. Worth a try if you're struggling

please can somebody add me, really need to get going on this weight loss
starting weight 188lbs, thanks ladies

TooImmatureTurtleDoves Mon 01-Oct-12 13:48:18

Darn, I left my 750ml bottle in the car and I can't be arsed to go out and get it. Regular old pint glass for me when I can be bothered to get up.

So far so good, except for a cup of tea with semi-skimmed milk at bf group. However, I nobly resisted all the biscuits and Scotch pancakes with butter, even while feeding DD chunks of pancake. Didn't get back until nearly 1.30 and was starving, so have just inhaled a huge portion of chilli with guacamole. I'm still hungry. Am trying to wait to see if the food hits my tummy and makes me feel full before raiding the fridge again.

MmeLindor Mon 01-Oct-12 13:50:25

We have microwave, so could do soup.

I like most fish, so could take salad with fish.

I remember from last boot camp there were certain sausages that were low carb

WineGless Mon 01-Oct-12 13:56:53

Turtle doves- drink the water now to fill you up before you raid fridge

WineGless Mon 01-Oct-12 13:57:48

Black farmer sausages are good low carb ones. Usually good quality sausages where they don't add shite to as a filler are your best bet

teaandthorazine Mon 01-Oct-12 14:02:44

Right, have weighed in at 10 stone (140lbs) on the nose this morning. Which is not bad. So tbh I don't know whether to bootcamp it or not, 'cos I kinda want some LC encouragement but I'm not fussed about losing much more weight...maybe a few lbs though would be nice...

Can I play on here even if I'm Bootcamp Lite-ing? [looks worriedly at BIWI's stick]

(It's dp's birthday today and there is chocolate cake, whisky, champagne and an actual KILO of Dairy Milk in the kitchen. I'm DOOOOOOOMED grin)

All this drink is making me so bloated... AND i really cant stop weeing! Dont know how im going to make the school run both ways... Might have to find a bush somewere hahas! blush

tea stay awayyyy from the dairy milk!!

ABitWoozy Mon 01-Oct-12 14:12:37

"if you have been low carbing since before the start of this bootcamp and would like your loss to date added to the spreadsheet, just let me know your start date and start weight and I will get those added"

Yes please! Start date 1st September, start weight a humungous 206lb blush

CakeMeIAmYours Mon 01-Oct-12 14:14:37

I do know we're supposed to be avoiding processed foods, but these sausages are lovely and at only 0.6g carbs each, are the lowest I could find. They seem to make me feel full for ages too.

Can't stomach fried food without ketchup, so have been having a teeny tiny scraping of this low sugar ketchup with my fried eggs and sausages.

Shagmundfreud Mon 01-Oct-12 14:15:02

Would anyone like to share their thoughts on protein shakes?

I have one instead of a meal every now and again because it's quick and easy and fills me up for a few hours.

I have bought a kilo of unflavoured whey powder from amazon - no sweeteners, no carbs, no flavour. Except it has got a flavour. Not a very nice one.

However, with a teaspoon of vanilla extract, a teaspoon of sweetener, a glug of cream (lactose free) and cold water, it's actually quite palatable.

Shagmundfreud Mon 01-Oct-12 14:16:59

Oh, can someone talk to me about good supplements to have on this diet?

I have probiotics (capsules) some days which do an astonishing job of clearing my guts out blush.

Also take Berocca sometimes.

What about chromium? Anyone tried that? Isn't it supposed to help with blood sugar?

MmeLindor Mon 01-Oct-12 14:19:24

We have a Sainsbury's but it is a little further away. Will go there tomorrow if I have time.

Salad and chicken for lunch. And more water <floating away emoticon>

TooImmatureTurtleDoves Mon 01-Oct-12 14:30:37

<downs pint of water> Winegless, I was saved by my laziness!

chrome is fine, i use chrome, explorer and firefox depending on what i'm doing. google docs inevitably work better in chrome (they freeze for me in explorer)

woozy have added your overall loss and i think have added everyone who has asked so far...

sorry if anyone has been trying to add things while i fiddle about with it myself

there are 58 people who haven't yet weighed in...

caramelwaffle Mon 01-Oct-12 14:45:43

What exercise - if any - are we all doing?

caramelwaffle Mon 01-Oct-12 14:46:37

Come on 58 slackers.

Where is the big stick of BIWI? grin

halfthesize Mon 01-Oct-12 14:50:32

caramel I go to the gym at least 3 times a week and have been LC since April(original bootcamp) I find I have loads of energy.

I did do 5 times last week, but its rare I can manage that much normally due to DH working hours and DC x 3smile

PortiaPony Mon 01-Oct-12 14:57:00

I've weighed, I've weighed, but can't access google docs at work (its incase we use it to upload confidental informtion). Please don't big stick me smile

hellsbells99 Mon 01-Oct-12 14:57:29

Ilovemyteddy - thanks for your support. Congrats on your weightloss - there is hope for me yet!

caramelwaffle Mon 01-Oct-12 15:00:48

That's good half. Glad to see it works.

NigellasGuest Mon 01-Oct-12 15:07:00

shagmund I take chromium and also magnesium, supposed to help with sugary food cravings.... couldn't tell you if they work, or whether it's this WOE generally that has reduced cravings. (I've been doing this for a few months now).

EwanHoozami Mon 01-Oct-12 15:13:17

Shagmumd I've been taking chromium (from H&B) for a couple of weeks and I've found that I very rarely have an urge to snack and if I do, a glass of water sorts it out.

This could also be because my body has sorted it's own sugar levels out, of course. I plan to pause taking it after my current bottle of 30 have run out so see if it was having any effect.

There's usually chromium in a good multivit anyway.

caramel when i first changed to this woe i found exercise beyond a brisk walk really tough (previously had been running quite long distances), and it made me feel horrible afterwards

i stopped for 2-3 weeks, and changed to exercising (running and dvds like shred) in the afternoons after work instead of first thing in the morning and i'm back up to where i was before. my body seemed to need a little while to get used to the new fuel type. i won't deny i was a little worried, but it's all good now

StrangeGlue Mon 01-Oct-12 15:29:06

Weight in chart! So far:

-two hard boiled eggs and cherry tomatoes for breakfast
- cucumber and cottage cheese snack
- chock ful of veg chilli for lunch (south beach diet book)

Later will be south beach cottage pie which is yum cakes.

So far 1.75 liters of water - going to the loo lots!

HumphreyCobbler Mon 01-Oct-12 16:08:42

had a good first day smile need to drink more water though, I was helping on the school trip so just couldn't drink enough.

tartiflette Mon 01-Oct-12 16:17:43

Day 1 going well so far. Was amazed to weigh in at the same I finished at before the summer, I really expected to have gained a fair bit but I guess this woe has become more ingrained than I realised.

Am another one struggling to get enough water down, it's just getting back into the habit I think.

MmeLindor I take any of the following for my lunch (tend to rotate): tuna mayonnaise with salad leaves or cherry toms and cucumber; diced chicken mixed with mayo and celery with green salad; sainsbo's taste the diff cheese coleslaw with slices of pastrami; vegetable soup and a couple of mini cheeses.

caramel I am deeply lazy and just do a Callanetics vid two or three times a week.

Off to down some water...

NewStartSameStory Mon 01-Oct-12 16:25:18

Biwi - I actually thought that coming off the caffine completely was going to be a step too far but can only drink my coffee sweet and milky. Will pick up some sweetners first thing tomo and watch the milk amount.

I have a problem. I am in an all day business meeting tomo. With catered lunch. So I will apologise but I suspect that there will probably be carbs involved. Tomo is also my stupid exercise day so there will be 4 hours of stamina, core strength/flexibility and skill training for me. The plan is to take some cheese, a yoghurt and some celery (to munch for habit) as snacks. Hoping for scrambled eggs for breakfast. Will try and sort something out for tea but might just grab a bag of undressed salad and munch that whilst I watch ds do his stuff in the evening.

Also it turns out that lack of sleep, lack of caffine and lack of carbs is a very bad combination. I am irrationally and completely in a vile mood atm. Kit to sort and then i am off for a nap until ds' bedtime. Going to be a few more days of this isn't there? Or is it just me?

NotMostPeople Mon 01-Oct-12 16:25:20

Ooh there you all are. I've weighed in. Breakfast of two rashers of bacon and an egg, onlym just hungry now so I've just had a snack of cheese and salami. I'll have something proper later.

I'd like to make up some low carb soups - any ideas?

Shagmundfreud Mon 01-Oct-12 16:26:37

Am child-minding and know that the minute I strip off to weigh myself , ds2 will decide to give my 2 year old mindee an emulsion paint make-over or start encouraging him to surf down the stairs on a tea-tray, or something. He goes home at 5.15 so I'll weigh in then.

Doshusallie Mon 01-Oct-12 16:29:18

Have drunk 3 pints of water so far.

Also had a coffee with cream mid morning, and a big coffee with a spalsh of semi skimmed this afternoon.

Lunch was a 3 egg omelette with 2 frankfurter sausages chopped into it and a big salad with mayo. I know frankfurters not ideal but they are open in fridge and I refuse to chuck them away.

Have had 2 slices of roasted gammon ham for a snack.

I'm not usually bothered by sweet things but have just seen a colleague come back to his desk with a delish looking cheese cake yoghurt pot. Had snack envy.

Am going to make this for our dinner party and not eat any. Chances?

BigStickBIWI Mon 01-Oct-12 16:30:17

Don't weigh this evening! All you are doing is weighing yourself + the food and drink that you have consumed today. Far better to do it first thing in the morning, naked and after you've been to the loo

This is the tricky time
About 50 g of Wensleydale with ginger and mango
About an ounce of Stilton
A slice of smoked Bavarian
Celery stick with tbs of peanut butter
Glass of water

That should do until dinner.
is that alright?

BigStickBIWI Mon 01-Oct-12 16:55:27

I'd go easy on the Wensleydale - the mango will be adding carbs - and have you checked the carb count of the peanut butter?

But yes - isn't it lovely to be able to eat cheese?!

Hello! Have been sooooooo much better today despite severe lack of organisation. Kept putting my alarm on snooze so didn't have time to cook breakfast but managed to get two rashers of bacon from school canteen! At lunch I made it out in the rain to get a salad as nothing in canteen suitable and then I have come home early as boiler man coming. DD (2.10) has some chocolate biscuits left over and I have resisted and had pepperamis!! I realise too much processed and I haven't had enough water yet but am very proud to not have had a biscuit and I have netball tonight!

BigStickBIWI Mon 01-Oct-12 16:59:06

Well done! MrsHP - I need you on my David Lloyd thread here

Livelongandprosper Mon 01-Oct-12 17:21:56

Checking in.

So far, fried egg for breakfast and quorn and veg fried in oil and butter for lunch. Some sort of chicken breasty thing for dinner.

I am really noticing the Twix ads on tv today............

cathyandclaire Mon 01-Oct-12 17:32:37

Surviving so far...Bacon and scrambled eggs for breakfast, salad with blue cheese and celery for lunch and BIWI's (the recipe thread is FAB!) slow cooker lamb ( with some Moroccan spices) and roasted veg for supper..kids and dh can have couscous with it.
Have had coffee with milk blush but carbs still work out pretty low and I know I would be vile, grumpy and likely to cheat if I didn't have coffee.

Limonata Mon 01-Oct-12 17:33:17

Added weight to spreadsheet! Off to quaff more water.... Dinner will be roast chicken, lots of green veg, bearnaise sauce, roasted veg (courgette, red onion, mushrooms). Thank you for having me! Oh and I take chromium and coconut oil every morning. Coconut oil is brilliant. Love it. Sure my cravings have been less since I started taking the chromium, but that could just be lower sugar intake in general? Will be fighting the urge for Lindt sea salt chocolate later...

NotAgainAndAgain Mon 01-Oct-12 17:58:35

Only one other person had yogurt for breakfast - am I totally off the chart to end up with the wrong choice?
I must admit it is my first take with bootcamp - and oh how high my expectaitions are!
My case - desperate needs - desperate measures. The only previous experience with LC-ing comes from Montignac. Do I have to brush up on my "do's and don't's"?

(dreaming) it would be so nice to get a link to "don't's" the same way I get to the spreadsheet. (Continue dreaming) ... and to recipes

Well actually....I wouldn't eat cheese at all if it wasn't for this diet.I have a sweet tooth....I thought peanut butter was allowed..lemme see...9.9 of which 3.7 /100g are sugars....?
I,m flagging now ,still feeling a bit hungry after dinner with a headache(2 paracetamol)
Will do reading and bath my luvlies to bed

sybilfaulty Mon 01-Oct-12 18:11:04

Am about to add myself to the spreadsheet . Just eating a bit of cheese while making kids pasta.

NotAgainAndAgain Mon 01-Oct-12 18:30:09

I have a sweet tooth too, motherofluvlies, I did not know it until I started LC-ing. I never thought I do - very inconvenient for dieting ;)

queribus Mon 01-Oct-12 18:38:26

I've added my weight in. I think I'm the heaviest here so huge motivation to not be blubber-lady soon!

LittleFrieda Mon 01-Oct-12 18:39:02

It's been a good day, all in all. Have drunk gallons of water. Breakfast: hard boiled egg, lunch chicken tikka and salad greens with a blob of homemade raiita (chopped cucmber, chopped spping onion, chopped mint and a blob of greek youhourt) and some salad greens. Dinner not sure yet.

coldcat Mon 01-Oct-12 18:44:22

Evening all....so far so good! Breakfast=2eggs, coffee & cream x2 (don't actually like it with milk now...way too sweet)
Lunch=bowl low carb broccoli soup, lamb bites,salad & chopped peppers
Dinner= boiled bacon, buttered cabbage and mushrooms, Decaff coffee & cream
plus 2.5 litres water throughout the day.

Tartiflette....snap with the callanetics... love it! Do you do traditional or Evolution?

EwanHoozami Mon 01-Oct-12 18:49:04

NotAgain this link has quite a useful list of what's not allowed in the first couple of weeks of a low carb diet (based on the assumption that the first fortnight of bootcamp is similar to that of Atkins - please shout if I'm off-pitch here!)

I keep finding foods that I'm not sure about. Was pondering whether miso soup was allowed..

AngieAir Mon 01-Oct-12 19:00:18

Pleased that I've stayed roughly same weight after a summer featuring rice and cake.

Green beans instead of rice with chilli tonight and bulk cooking for work: burger, roast veg, salad for lunch. Boiled eggs, butter, coffee with cream for breakfast.

Luckily I don't mind eating the same thing for days on end smile

WineGless Mon 01-Oct-12 19:10:33

BIWI will be along with her list of rules

here is link to recipe thread
Also if you to the top of page there is food section with recipes in. Oliviamumsnet kindly got us a low carb section and I ave started transferring them over

foosty Mon 01-Oct-12 19:23:43

I'm here, have started LC'ing after a shocking boozy weekend filled with crap stodge for the hangover....grim

Breakfast - small pot Greek yog
Lunch - Salad with coleslaw and fish
Dinner - Chicken with balsamic cream sauce, mushrooms and veg. New recipe for me, smells lush, got it via Pinterest

DH is home at the moment (he usually works away) but he's quite happy to avoid carbs so no problems with me eyeing up his pasta...smile

Have added my stats onto the spreadsheet - thanks for adding me in! Will measure tomorrow, I think.

NotAgainAndAgain Mon 01-Oct-12 19:27:02

EwanHoozami thanks a lot for the link!
Oh dear, I've sinned twice today (yogurt in the morning, french beens at supper)sad
It gives no room for a little square of dark choc, does it.

NotAgainAndAgain Mon 01-Oct-12 19:30:12

oh, no green beens are in!

elastamum Mon 01-Oct-12 19:31:57

I always eat yoghut and oatbran for breakfast, I am on meds that mean that I really need to eat some bran or something to keep my insides working at all (TMI sorry!). Apart from that have been really good. Tuna and salad for lunch. Spag Bol meat sauce and mixed veg for dinner.

I too have an emergency supply of dark choc grin

mumtoblaire Mon 01-Oct-12 19:32:13

Dinner was tuna with mayo and 50gr of tomatoes.

Managed 1.5 litres water so far and only one cup of tea with tiny splash of semi-skimmed milk at 5pm.

I am shocked that I am not hungry and don't have a headache from lack of tea.

Think this is going to be a winner. Must get to grips with the veg we are allowed as soup sounds wonderful.

elastamum Mon 01-Oct-12 19:32:50

scuse spelling -cant see what am typing without my glasses!

Poppy1234 Mon 01-Oct-12 19:36:12

Day 1 completed.

B: small tub of total Greek yog
L: tuna mayo with salad
D: small bowl of beef stroganoff, had really been looking forward to this but our nanny deviated from my carefully found recipe and went off piste with the cornflour. Just had a tiny bowl and hope not too much damage down.

Struggling to drink enough water so need a strategy.

Making some soup for lunch tomorrow, basically a bag of frozen cauliflower fried in butter and curry powder then boiled to mush with a chicken stock and a tin of coconut milk and blended. The easiest and laziest soup I've ever made so will report back if it's anyway tasty.


Ps please tell me yogurt is an an acceptable breakfast , I've resorted to the small tubs to manage the carbs.

NotAgainAndAgain Mon 01-Oct-12 19:39:18

elastamum - me neither

WineGless Mon 01-Oct-12 19:44:25

Yes full fat Greek yoghurt is acceptable however some people have found dairy stalls their weight loss but you have to work out what suits your body.

I take a big pot of the lidl yoghurt to work and keep in fridge for the week. Some like to add vanilla extract to give it flavour but I like it plain

NotAgainAndAgain Mon 01-Oct-12 19:44:50

WineGless, thank you for the recipe thread, in my bookmarks now.
Please can someone tell me if I can sniff a choc square???? I find it so hard without confused

WineGless Mon 01-Oct-12 19:46:57

Poppy- did you see up thread I recommended getting a sports top bottle and refill it. There is some weird science thing that it fools your body when drinking it like that. I remember reading it and it definitely works for. Me

WineGless Mon 01-Oct-12 19:48:49

Notagain, after Bootcamp you can. The purpose of these two weeks is to break your sugar addiction. Have you done any reading around whylow carbing is better for your health and the science behind it. If not I can recommend DR. John Briffa to get started and the idiot proof diet book

NotAgainAndAgain Mon 01-Oct-12 19:52:05

Talking practice, is there anywhere on net a carb counter some sort?

In that link it says "NO to diary products except cheeses and cream in limited quantities". Cottage cheese - is it no good for the first two weeks then? Or OKish?

NotAgainAndAgain Mon 01-Oct-12 19:58:57

I did a bit of it - Montigniac -sort of science. It sounds like I need refreshing then...From Briffa I put up his list of food from "Escape the Diet".
Ok, I'll put the chock back - thank you!

Doshusallie Mon 01-Oct-12 20:00:57

Tea was salmon steaks cooked with a knob of butter x 2 with broccolli, and cabbage and leeks, also cooked in butter. Lovely.

Had another frankfurter and a chunk of cheese when I got home.

Must stop snacking, albeit low carb.

vnmum Mon 01-Oct-12 20:02:07

Half Oh to be starting at 9st envy

Whip Glad you are having a nice weekend smile

No breakfast today as wasn't hungry (think it was seeing a 10 on the scales again that did it), went shopping and got some delicious olives from a local deli. Snacked on those this afternoon then had pork steak with meditteranean roast veg, griddled courgette, buttery mushrooms.

Just been to tesco and the lady behind me started to load her stuff on the belt. First things on were 8 WW frozen ready meals followed by 4 WW tinned soups. I actually felt sorry for her, her thinking she has to eat that tasteless processed frankenfood crap to lose weight sad

WineGless Mon 01-Oct-12 20:09:10

Vnmum I know what you mean/ I get my judgey pants on in supermarket when I see low fat high gi food in trolleys. I want to give them a low carb book to take home and read!

Poppy1234 Mon 01-Oct-12 20:54:02

Thanks WineGless for the water tip, will try that tomorrow and see if I can kick start the water habit. Delighted to know Greek yoghurt is on the approved list. May try and alternate with an eggy breakfast to mix it up. I am loving reading everyone's food diaries. Lots of inspiration for meal ideas.

halfthesize Mon 01-Oct-12 21:06:52

vnmum & winegless I have also found myself checking out other peoples trolleysgrin

I'm on my 7th pint of water, so well and truly sloshing! Dinner for me was chicken with lemon thyme and cream cooked in the slow cooker, it was yummysmile

TellMeLater Mon 01-Oct-12 21:11:10

I'm joining in in a half hearted way. Low carbing but fasting twice a week. I am dodging around target but i wouldn't mind losing a few comfort lbs. Tortured myself by making chocolate topped spelt shortbread for he dcs, they smelt amazing! Am dreaming of low carb food - bacon, eggs and mushrooms planned for breakfast.

Today was a fast - so no breakfast

lunch - Greek yoghurt
Dinner - prawn vindaloo with cauliflower rice.

NotAgain I thought Green beans were ok from a carb pov.

aroomofherown Mon 01-Oct-12 21:22:20

Well I've survived today despite it being a shit manic day at work (including travel it was 14 hours long and none of it time to do my admin - mostly meetings all day).

I have also had around 2.5 litres water, need another glass or two and then I'm off to beddiebyes!

MmeLindor Mon 01-Oct-12 21:27:39

I have been checking other people's trolleys. When I see them with a trolley full of veg, meat and cheese, with no bread or pasta, I want to give them a wink.

I've resisted so far.

Ok, had chicken with asparagus and cream and two glasses of champagne

<hides from BIWI>

HumphreyCobbler Mon 01-Oct-12 21:44:15

I have now drunk the required amount of water. Hallelujah.

ABitWoozy Mon 01-Oct-12 21:47:45

Quick question to those in the know: how to deal with exercising in the first 2 weeks?

I did a military bootcamp-thing in my local park at the weekend but felt well rough partway through, dizzy and nauseous, felt like my blood sugar had plummeted.
Army bloke has told me to have porridge or a banana at least an hour before the next one, can I get away with this and not undo all the good low carb work? If the carbs are a no-no, what's best to have? Protein?

I've signed up to once a week but I plan to get out for a short run a couple of times a week in between to build up my exercise tolerance so I don't have to sit out halfway through like this week blush

SkaffenAmtiskaw Mon 01-Oct-12 21:55:56

MmeLindor, I do that too (checking other people's trolleys) grin

Breakfast was 2 egg omelet with mushrooms and cream
Lunch: 1 tub coleslaw + 1 packet slices roast chicken breast
Dinner: salad of lettuce, 1 tomato, 1 courgette, mizuma, rocket, salad onion and slices of roasted pork belly.

I had a rather long and boring meeting this afternoon and am very pleased that I managed to snub the biscuits.

Not sure how much water I've drunk so far, but at least 2 litres I think.

BellaVita Mon 01-Oct-12 22:04:45

Hello grin

I saw BIWI on Saturday and she looks fantastic.

So... Let me get this right... No fruit, BUT you can have salad yes? Can have veg's, but no carrots, parsnips, squash?

I will struggle with the water as I sit on a reception and have to get someone to cover when I go to the loo.

Willowisp Mon 01-Oct-12 22:14:37

Shagmundfreud which probiotics do you use ?

NotMostPeople Mon 01-Oct-12 22:24:23

Don't forget tomatoes are fruit.

I forgot the water! Will get slurping tomorrow.

I had an avocado with prawn mayo.

Not enough veg/salad today so must do more tomorrow. Nice to be back on board. It's been fab throwing out the size 16 winter clothes and buying new in a 12, I've even got the odd size 10 in my wardrobe now.

caramelwaffle Mon 01-Oct-12 22:28:42

Well done NMP

Tonight had cold meats, olives, feta cheese and mayonnaise.

Wasn't really hungry and think these would be better to have for breakfast.

WineGless Mon 01-Oct-12 22:32:46

Well done NMP
I haven't got properly on track since summer Hols but have dropped at least one dress size. Lovely feeling to be buying new smaller clothes which fit and look good on you

frumpet Mon 01-Oct-12 22:35:53

Forgot i have a party at the weekend , which is better to drink dry white wine ot G&T ( slimline)? Might add that this is my only social until nearly christmas !

WineGless Mon 01-Oct-12 22:37:18

G&t with slimline tonic will have less carbs

If its your treat - which do you prefer?

TellMeLater Mon 01-Oct-12 22:46:28

Tomatoes are only 3.1g, so not too bad at all - I don't think we're including the vegetable fruits in the category of banned fruits. You can have cucumber, aubergine, pepper etc. although red peppers can be a little higher.

TooImmatureTurtleDoves Mon 01-Oct-12 22:46:43

Have managed Level 1, Day 1 of the Shred. God, thought my knees were going to give way halfway through. I am so unfit! But this time I mean it, I want to do something about my abysmal fitness levels and lose about 4 inches off my waist and get rid of the mummy tummy.

Dinner was chicken curry, mmm, and I had a post-Shred snack of roast beef slices with ff mayo and sliced tomato. Tomato, especially really ripe ones, tastes lush to me now!

Too immature well done, I'm psyching myself up for shred tomorrow. I HATE it but I know it's good for me. I love running but my body seems to have adapted to it so I need to do additional things which really push me

Collywibbles Mon 01-Oct-12 22:51:23

Added my weight to the spreadsheet - weighed and measurements done first thing this morning :-) Did a Ab Attack class and took the dogs for a walk / jog - I had to cut my route short as I was desperate for a wee lol! I guess all that water has to go somewhere!
B: scrambled eggs (2) with cream & olives
L: Ham, coleslaw, broccoli (with butter), cold chicken, Cucumber
T: Cold sausage (low carb meaty one), mashed cauli with butter, cucumber, coleslaw
Had a pounding headache all day despite drinking loads of water :-(

TellMeLater Mon 01-Oct-12 22:54:57

Abitwoozey there are a few of us who exercise quite intensely and eat low carb, so it's certainly doable, although when you are going through carb withdrawal you may feel pretty awful - light headed, dizzy etc. it took me a couple of days to see that through, I slept loads then I was fine. Now I do bootcamp twice a week and run around 25k, I also fast twice a week, my body uses fat for energy without many issues.

But everyone is different, you may take longer to adjust, you may feel the withdrawal more intensely....play it by ear but I doubt you need to carb load before every training session - your body will not have processed the slow release carbs from the porridge in time for your session anyway. Give your body a little time to adjust and used to burning fat rather than carbs, exercise less intensely at bootcamp - just for a week or two.

MmeLindor Mon 01-Oct-12 23:06:49

I am a failure. I have drunk 3/4 of the bottle <hic>

Will reboot tomorrow. Honest.

<hides Tunnocks wrappers>

caramelwaffle Mon 01-Oct-12 23:13:23

Champagne? envy

I want chocolate, now!!! humph

I never normally want, or eat, chocolate but by God I was willing to hunt down BIWI for her big stick and keeeeeeel you all for some chocolate!

NewStartSameStory Mon 01-Oct-12 23:19:03

I have learnt two very valuable lessons today.
1. sleep is very important to this. No sleep = no will power
2. Not eating enough will scupper you and make it very hard to resist and be focused.

confession i slipped tonight. should have been asleep hours ago, life kicked off and needed dealing with. Ate chocolate. Didn't want it, didn't need it. It was just there. Didn't make me feel better, didn't make me less hungry. Actually made me feel miserable. This is new. chocolate has been my go to recently. I went and calculated my calorie intake for the day before slip up. It was around 600cal today. No where near the 1200ish that is recommended for basal metabolic requirements. So no wonder I am struggling. Thing is, didn't feel hungry earlier. Are there any tips to get around this? How to ensure you have a sensible calorie intake when you are not feeling hungry?

NewStartSameStory Mon 01-Oct-12 23:23:59

<passes caramel her stash> i don't want it no more. It can go to a different home.

MmeLindor Mon 01-Oct-12 23:25:43

What were you eating that you only used up 600 cals?

WineGless Mon 01-Oct-12 23:29:48

What did you have to eat today, lets see if we can point you in right direction

NewStartSameStory Mon 01-Oct-12 23:34:53

2 boiled eggs, 3 sausages and a small bowl of cottage pie without the potatoe (leftovers)

NewStartSameStory Mon 01-Oct-12 23:35:15

Oh and a slice or two of plastic cheese.

NewStartSameStory Mon 01-Oct-12 23:36:30

PLus 2 coffees with sugar and milk. Other then that only drunk water.

WineGless Mon 01-Oct-12 23:38:26

Ok that's not much at all.
Where are your veg which will have the small amount of carbs you need?
What fat have you had?

Balance should be fat/pr0tein/carbs to your meals.

You need to plan lots of green veg/salad to accompany meals and have mayo/oily dressings on the salad and fry veg in butter. Honest,y it's yummy, plus the vitamins in veg need fats with them to be soluble and absorb

WineGless Mon 01-Oct-12 23:41:18

What are you planning for tomorrow/rest of week?

You can use cauliflower or celeriac as mash for toppings on cottage pie and fish pie

Courgettes can be sliced up and fried to use instead of noodles or pasta if you are making spag Bol etc.

It's trying to adapt what you already make for the others you live with but planning really helps

WineGless Mon 01-Oct-12 23:42:48

Off to bed but hope this hops, keep posting. I started original Bootcamp and can't believe I stuck with it and how much it changed my life

NewStartSameStory Mon 01-Oct-12 23:47:46

Tomo's plan is this:

4am scrambled eggs (prob 2)
7:30am Yoghurt, sausage or two, Celery, few nuts (not technically allowed but mid training snack and will be last resort)
Lunch is in middle of meeting and catered non avoidable but if like last one 1 slice bread with some filling (fancy sized triangles and will network rather then eat)
Tea - grab bag of salad or something similar from Tesco and eat whilst ds does his activity conviently during tea time and meaning proper food not available til 9pm

Was going to sit down and proper meal plan wednesday morning when the crazy shit stops and I have a hour or two to meal plan properly.

WineGless Mon 01-Oct-12 23:53:17

How about getting some mange tout and sour cream and chive dip in tesco instead of just salad?

NewStartSameStory Mon 01-Oct-12 23:58:50

I am going to take a lot away though. My two mistakes I am sure are ones that others have and will make. I am not alone. And as for the state of mind re the slip up. I didn't say fuck it and it didn't resort to comfort. It was habit. It was there eat it and that gives hope that I will break this. And I say that as someone who would eat their own body weight in chocolate on a bad day in the past, figuratively speaking. And a good day would exist of mostly carbs.

I can I will do this. And I think my first big challenge is going to plan in lots of veg. I, erm, am not the best veg eater.

Also vit Bs have been supplimenting with marmite on toast. Obviously not allowed is there any way to obtain or is suppliments a good stop gap until I get a grip of this new woe?

NewStartSameStory Tue 02-Oct-12 00:06:28

mange tout is very high in sugar that allowed? Also have to be as dairy free as possible which sucks so tomo's yoghurt will be a soya based one. I know I am cheating with the cheese atm but that is going to have to go when I get more to grips with everything. However, it is sounding tempting so will give a good consideration. I think once I have sat done after sleep and can plan properly it is going to be easy but the impulsive decision to start on my craziest week was perhaps not my wisest decision. Probably wouldn't have done it otherwise though.

Thanks Wine.

cathyandclaire Tue 02-Oct-12 07:02:36

Made the schoolgirl error of getting on the scales... 2lb UP...sob! Wondering if it's this weekend's carbs coming in late to bite me sad
Oh well onwards and downwards, mushrooms and bacon for breakfast.

tartiflette Tue 02-Oct-12 07:13:25

newstart I think a vit B supplement is a good idea with this way of eating, until you get to the maintenance stage and start to phase back in some wholegrains.

TellMeLater Tue 02-Oct-12 07:31:11

Cathy there are many reasons why the scales can shoot upwards and when it's over night it can't be anything other than fluid retention. You will lose a lot of weight in bootcamp but to begin with most of it will be water, actual fat loss will be slower...as it is for every diet.

I read recently about how you can gain weight up to 4lbs when you exercise to begin with, apparently the muscles temporarily hold water to help them repair and grow. How demotivating is that?

teaandthorazine Tue 02-Oct-12 07:36:50

Hmmm, well not my greatest day ever...

Lunch was leftover celeriac dauphinoise with a few slices of cucumber and some Serrano ham.

Dinner was lamb kebab, green spice chicken tikka and sag paneer. And popadom, wine and a slice of chocolate cake blush. Ah well, it was dp's birthday... and I didn't drink the whisky or eat the kilo of chocolate grin

Onwards and upwards today. Stupid thing is that the cake was really quite dry and tasteless - still finished it though...

Well done to everyone who got through their first day yesterday. Despite the above, I'm a huge fan of low carb and I know it works, having lost a stone and a half with ease eating absolutely delicious food!

I was really craving my rubbish snackies last nite so had sme nuts (about 5g of carb worth) and slimline tonic and it worked smile I didn't go in cupboard and felt like I was having a treat.
That's doable isn't it BIWI it's either that or munch until it all kicks in.

Bacon and egg scoffed

Second day

Think little ( well big in my case but any dress would be nice) black dress

Good luck today everyone smile good choices

WineGless Tue 02-Oct-12 07:50:52

I have a mug of bovril for Vit b-would that work newstartsamestory IOU may find that you actually like veg once your taste buds change from the sugar addiction you currently have, if anyone has said to me I would enjoy cabbage before this woe I would have laughed but its one of my favorite veg now

I was such a good girl yesterday! thought it would be very difficult but it wasnt - managed to resist my fave sour cream and chive pretzels and DH had some after 8's and he offered me some. Cant believe I said no ta. grin

just had my scrambled eggs for breakfast and then once DC are delivered to school going to go meet friend for coffee (black) and have a mooch around town.

well done on resisting motherof it isnt easy but you did it! woop.

and veggies can only be improved by the addition of melted butter or an oily dressing!

wordfactory Tue 02-Oct-12 08:22:20

Another day, another dollar here in Casa Wordfactory.

Yesterday went well.
Scrambled eggs for breakfast.
Left over pork caserole for lunch.
Cheese omlette for supper.

DH is away so that makes life immeasurably easier.

Today I have had scrambled eggs for breakfast, but I am meeting a production team for lunch and the restaurant is a veggie place...suspect it will be carborama on the menu.

Jacaqueen Tue 02-Oct-12 08:39:17

Had roast chicken with salad and mayo last night. Felt a bit peckish later on but resisted all temptation and went to bed.

Second day with no tea, well no builders tea with milk. I have been drinking herbal tea and trying to up my water.

Not sure about food plan for today, which can be dangerous and lead to snacking so I better get myself organised.

EwanHoozami Tue 02-Oct-12 08:44:37

MmeLindor (massive congrats on the book, btw) and others after packed lunch ideas - I like to make some thick fritattas and take a couple of slices with me.

I've done them with various combos of courgette, spinach, feta, decent chorizo or pancetta - you get the idea. I find they travel really well. BIWI's asparagus version in the OP of the recipe thread is great.

With the water - I get a bit intimidated by having a giant 2l bottle in front of me to work through so I just make sure I've had a tumbler every hour. I measured how much I was drinking and a 400ml glassful every hour for 10 hours gets me up to 4l a day shock <slosh>

EwanHoozami Tue 02-Oct-12 08:48:43

Plats du Jour chez Hoozami:

B: leftover cauli rice with extra butter <weirdo>
L: plan to raid Lidl for various cold meats
D: Pork chops with sage & mustard glaze w/ celeriac chips and shredded brussels sprouts

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 08:53:07

Morning all! Sorry I was a bit AWOL yesterday. Sadly my first day of Bootcamp was somewhat derailed by an evening out. I turned up at the Champagne bar and ordered water. Had two small bottles of water, another friend arrived and I was told in no uncertain terms that I was having a glass of Champagne. So I had two blush. But that was all. Went on for meal afterwards, and just drank water. So not brilliant but a lot better than it could have been.

Yesterday was like this for me:

- no breakfast (making it a fast day)
lunch - 2 Black Farmer sausages, two large chestnut mushrooms and two fried eggs
dinner - parma ham, roasted peppers, mozzarella and a green salad with parmesan

2 cups of coffee, 2 glasses of Champagne and at least 2 litres of water.

TooImmatureTurtleDoves Tue 02-Oct-12 08:58:54

How depressing is it that exercise may cause the lbs to go back on initially! Whoever said that, thank you for the advance warning - I will try to ignore it if that happens. How quickly will it wear off? FX it won't happen...

So far have consumed nothing - not sure whether to have Greek yoghurt or something that involves cooking for breakfast. I could do omelette, or perhaps scrambled eggs, bacon and mushrooms. DD can have toast - I haven't the energy right now for trying to make her eat something messy!

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 09:03:10

Just to clarify a few things:

- Re exercise - you can train and you can train hard if you're low carbing. However, it takes your body around 2-3 weeks to get totally into fat-burning mode, and during this period you may find your exercise routine a little more difficult. It may be a good idea to scale things down a little, until you're properly into low carbing (and then your body will happily burn fat for fuel rather than carbs). Total full fat yoghurt is also high protein, so is a good pre-gym food; eggs are also good.

- Yoghurt is allowed in Bootcamp, as long as it is plain yoghurt and as long as it is full fat. (But keep an eye on things as dairy isn't great for everyone - yoghurt is better than milk/cream, but just make sure). Don't put fruit or nuts on it.

- Green beans are fine

- Nuts are not allowed on Bootcamp They are too carby. Your carbs should not be coming from nuts

- Please make sure you are eating vegetables and salad with your meals - this is where your carbs should be coming from

- Eat your three meals a day, especially if you are new to low carbing. You need to do this to get your blood sugar under control, which will also then ensure you aren't hungry

- This is not a way of eating which is about eating tiny amounts of food, or restricting your calories. STOP COUNTING CALORIES!

- Eat plenty of low carb food, and eat until you are satisfied - do not restrict your portions. This is not how weight loss is achieved. Honestly!

- If you have done all of the above, and you are still hungry - ask yourself "am I really hungry, or is snacking a habit I am used to?". If you are genuinely hungry, then eat - but don't reach for the carbs! A (small) piece of cheese, a hard-boiled egg, a slice of ham, some cucumber, etc are all good snacks.

And a reminder - Bootcamp is meant to be strict! If you cheat, you won't see the weight loss that you want.

What a lovely morning grin

0.7 kilos down this am smile wooos!!!

Breaky will be bacon egg and mushrooms... Cant wait!

dotty2 Tue 02-Oct-12 09:13:56

Made it through yesterday, although had slightly more cheese than I should have done. Went for a swim and had no problems with energy levels until the last few lengths, but am a bit out of practice so not necessarily down to the low carb. But today! I have a pounding headache and feel terribly shaky. Having done it before, I know this is just my body getting used to not getting lots of carbs. And when I've low carbed before I've eaten nuts so this is a bit more radical. Am in my running kit and planning to run when I've done a couple of hours work (I work at home). Not convinced I'll make it to the end of the street, but we'll see.

RatherBeOnThePiste Tue 02-Oct-12 09:15:55

I concur on the training hard on low carb, tis absolutely fine, but you need to be well into it, I was training for a marathon row and stayed on low carb.

Forgot to weigh in but thank you to the lovely who put me on the spreadsheet thanks

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 09:15:58

Take it easy dotty - just be prepared for it to be a bit harder for the next couple of weeks.

Shagmundfreud Tue 02-Oct-12 09:18:14

Have put this morning's weight down on spreadsheet. 11stone 1lbs. That's down from 12 stone on the 2nd of September, when I began low carbing. smile

I'm really pleased, particularly as the first three weeks I wasn't being strict. I was still having sugar in my coffee (bad!), and drinking a lot of tea with semi-skimmed during the day. Also not drinking enough water. Or exercising.

But I'm hoiking my diet pants right up now and intend to do this thing RIGHT.

I'm loving it that I'm not massively bloated every day by 7pm. I work some evenings and it's been a nightmare trying to find something respectable in my wardrobe to wear that doesn't make me look like a barrel.

OK, off to peruse the recipes thread.

LaVitaBellissima Tue 02-Oct-12 09:18:30

Can I eat beans, not Heinz obv, but chickpeas, cannelloni beans, lentils etc?

One thing I'm really happy about it making the change to no sugar in my tea. Over the last couple of years (since I was pregnant) I've gradually cut down from a heaped spoon to less than a quarter. Finally taken the plunge yesterday and it's fine, hardly noticeable. It's only a small change but that's probably a kilo or 2 of sugar over the year!

I'm going to make an omlette now and then get started on a beef soup for lunch, with or without beans. Do I also need to keep an eye on carrots & pumpkin? As I have both in the fridge.

Dinner is going to be slow roasted lamb shoulder and I'm going to do the creamy celeriac, yummy!!

No pulses etc lavita i made that mistake on last bootcamp... If u want to aboud BIWI'S stick i suggest u step away haha!


catstail Tue 02-Oct-12 09:23:29

I am inding it so hard to resist the varbs in the evening, say 7pm - what can I do?

no beans on bootcamp, Iwould eat cooked carrots either and be careful of pumpkin.

weighed this morning... will add to spreadsheet.

LaVitaBellissima Tue 02-Oct-12 09:24:19

Could someone please enter my figures on the spreadsheet, I am on my IPad and I can't do it properly. I weighed in yesterday 147lbs my goal is 130lb

catstail Tue 02-Oct-12 09:25:27

carbs obviously, not varbs!!

teaandthorazine Tue 02-Oct-12 09:25:44

No beans, sorry LaVita. They are little nuggets of carb grin

Am trying to disabuse myself of the idea that the dry chocolate cake from last night will probably be loads better if I douse it in double cream this morning... Obviously a couple of weeks of slipping off the LC wagon have bought those sugar cravings back with a vengeance, grrrrrr.

noddyholder Tue 02-Oct-12 09:26:04

I am starting properly today Dp made lentil soup last night as he didn't know I was low carbing so I ate it! No bread though and rest of day ok so scales looking good this am smile Eggs today!

teaandthorazine Tue 02-Oct-12 09:27:53

brought not bought blush

CakeMeIAmYours Tue 02-Oct-12 09:40:05

They're on to me!!!

Just had my lovely low-carb Ocado delivery and someone has clearly noticed the absence of bread/pasta - they've given me lots of little lo-carb 'tester' products! (little handbag-sized portions of cheese and a sugar substitute)

Feeling pleased and stalked in equal measure smile

halfthesize Tue 02-Oct-12 09:45:22

Morning all and Well done NMP

Congrats on the book Mmegrin

Had bacon, egg and mushroom for breakfast and 2 pints of water.

Home made burgers and salad for lunch and roasted belly of pork with veg for dinner.
Have a great day ladies.

PortiaPony Tue 02-Oct-12 09:49:43

Well Day 1 was ok, although i find the weekdays easy enough as so busy. Friday night will be hard, usually my reward for getting to the end of the week is a large glass of wine and lots of snacks - sad that i can't think of non-food ways to reward myself, how sad is that!

b. Vanilla protein shake with water
l. Failed to bring packed lunch. Had a salad from a local sandwich shop and just hope it was ok - leaves, chicken, cucumber, tomatoes and a pesto dressing.
d. Tarragon chicken and mushrooms

EwanHoozami i love the sound of your dinner. Pray tell me more about a sage and mustard glaze and also celeriac chips please!

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 09:51:02

This is a really helpful site for carb counts - although it is Norwegian, and sometimes references domestic products

I would avoid carrots, but pumpkin is OK.

catstail - what is it you're craving? Are you really hungry or it is just a habit?

If you're hungry then eat something. But make it low carb. One thing I love is to roast a piece of belly pork and make sure that you get the skin really well crackled - keep the meat for meals during the week, and then chop up the crackling for snacks. You don't need very much at all for it to be really satisfying

hurricanewyn Tue 02-Oct-12 09:52:40

Good morning all - I was on a long shift yesterday & exhausted when I got in, so apologies for not signing. I was here in spirit though!

I'm on my phone now - could my weight of 198lbs please be added to the spreadsheet?

Yesterday I had :
B-Scrambled eggs, bacon, mushrooms & tomatoes
L-Salad leaves with smoked salmon, king prawns & mayo
D-was too tired to cook properly so had 2 slices of roast beef, two slices of roast pork & a slice of chorizo from the deli counter

Today I've had an omlette for breakfast, tuna steak and salad for lunch & I'm not sure what for dinner. Am nighta tomorrow so need to think of what to have then & on Thursday

ForSaletotheHighestBidder Tue 02-Oct-12 09:55:07

Morning all, happy to see scales down by 0.8kg, so about 1.5 lbs.
Did well yesterday, had major sugar craving after dinner so just had a coffee with a little sweetener and 2 pints of water, then went to bed early.

Made a lovely spicy pork mince stir fry type of thing with brocolli, was gonna have the leftovers for brekkie but DH gobbled the leftovers after I went to bed. angry
Will post the recipe to the recipe thread if something similar isn't already on there.

Today had naice ham, tomatoes and cucumber for breakfast. Plus 2 pints of water and 2 coffees.
Lunch is likely to be some form of chicken or tuna salad (work canteen). Maybe chicken, olives, lettuce, bacon, cucumber, caesar dressing, yum.
Dinner am thinking salmon and fennel in some combination, will do salmon and chips and peas for the kids and DH and keep the nice stuff for myself. grin

Hope everyone doing ok!

milkybarsrus Tue 02-Oct-12 10:04:49

Im so fed up, I really need to lose a lot of weight! Please could someone add me to the spreadsheet (im pretty useless at IT). my start weight is way above everyone else, so please add my embarrasing 184lb!!!!blush

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 10:08:46

Welcome, milkybarsrus - you might want to change that name though grin!

ForSale - that caesar dressing - is it pre-made? Go easy on it if it is, as it could have loads of sugar in it.

vnmum Tue 02-Oct-12 10:10:09

morning all. 1 1/2lbs down this morning, woo hoo, so back to what i was before my carb binge weekend.

I am seriously not feeling the love for the gym at the moment which is quite unusual for me. I normally go 3x a week plus the odd run but I just can't be bothered at the moment. I am wondering if my body is asking for some rest.

Anyway I feel lazy if i don't do something so I am off into the gaden to do a kettlebell swing workout for something different.

No breaky yet, will eat after workout. I have leftover slow cooked curry in the fridge that no one else will eat so even though it has nuts in (not alot) and cream, I might just have that for lunch with some veg or salad.

Tea is prawn and avocado salad.

cakeme That is quite clever of ocado if they really have figured out you are low carbing.

What is this book Mme? what have I missed?

dotty2 Tue 02-Oct-12 10:10:18

CakemeI'myours - that's spooky! Maybe someone senior at Ocado is a MNer.

Thanks, BIWI. Just had a small bowl of Greek Yog with some cinnamon and I feel a bit better now. Will run in a bit. BTW someone up thread was saying they couldn't do plain yog. I think it's nice with a sprinkling of cinnamon and it is also supposed to have properties that help it stabilise your bloodsugar - apparently there are clinical trials going on atm to see if it could be used in diabetes.

dotty2 Tue 02-Oct-12 10:12:29

PS - any ideas for a lowcarb Indian starter? Planning DH's birthday dinner. Main is going to be marinated lambchops with green beans and spicy roast cauli. So don't want to do chicken tikka etc as a bit samey.

ForSaletotheHighestBidder Tue 02-Oct-12 10:20:04

BIWI, yes its premade caesar dressing, might skip it and just have balsamic and olive oil instead. Thanks.

StrangeGlue Tue 02-Oct-12 10:27:52

Yesterday went well. This morning I have discovered one mushroom with cheese is not half as filling as the two boiled eggs and tomatoes I had for yesterday brekkie.

Re mayo - is that okay? Do I need a specific type? Basically can I have a bowl of tin tuna, mayo and cucumber for lunch one day? Surely not?

forsale beware of the balsamic, it's pretty carby (sorry!) - white wine vinegar is better if available

i know this doesn't help you today at work, but i make dressing in an old jam jar and put in a large tsp of dijon mustard, a tbsp or so of white wine vinegar and 3-4 tbsp olive oil - put the lid on the jar and shake well. this sits on the side in the kitchen for several days. you can add herbs or mix with mayo if you want a creamier dressing

for mayo i use hellman's full fat as it's one of the lowest carb ones around - you do need to check labels - i was shocked at M&S, they must add loads of sugar! i know others have made their own which sounds fab but i haven't tried that

milkybarsrus Tue 02-Oct-12 10:38:28

BIWI - thanks for adding me to the list! Yes you're right re the name, I thought of it when I was breast feeding my last baby as I felt like I was a Milk Bar for him! But now he's 6 maybe a name change would be appropriate........just off to see how I do that......

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 10:44:37


It's really carby - go for ordinary wine vinegar, which is zero carbs.

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 10:47:04

A handy tip - if you go to Sainsbury's website, as if you were going to do an online shop, most products have an information panel so that you can see the carbs.

This mayo is zero carbs

You could always make your own mayonnaise, which is surprisingly easy.

NigellasGuest Tue 02-Oct-12 10:49:46

Hi to anyone new - hard to keep up sometimes...
strangeglue - why did you only have one mushroom? that wouldn't have filled me up either!

Mayo must be full fat. Apparently some have a few carbs in but you are definitely safe with Hellmans - though it must be the full fat one. That lunch you mention sounds fine to me -- perhaps BIWI or someone else will give it full verification though.. I'm not exactly an expert myself and have only been doing this since (I think) early summer smile

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 10:54:22


Re mayo - is that okay? Do I need a specific type? Basically can I have a bowl of tin tuna, mayo and cucumber for lunch one day? Surely not?

Absolutely! This is a perfect low carb meal. As Nigella says, it must be full fat mayonnaise, though.

And I'm also a bit puzzled as to why your breakfast was so small! I did assume you meant a large mushroom, but even still ... There wouldn't have been much protein or fat in that - and those are the things that will keep you feeling full for longer.

DIYapprentice Tue 02-Oct-12 10:58:51

I did a sneaky weigh this morning, and down .2 of a kg so pleased with myself. grin

Managed my 3 litres of water yesterday, felt a bit waterlogged though.

B: fry up - 2 slices bacon, 3 mushrooms and one egg
Snack: chicken wings.
2 x cups of black tea
water: 1.5 litres so far

Wasn't REALLY hungry, just a bit peckish but thought a snack within the guidelines now would be better than risking a craving for something outside the guidelines. Not worrying about snacks until I get over the carb cravings. Have taken 1 ibuprofen as I have a thumping headache - assuming it is from sugar withdrawal. sad But better to take something for it rather than feel sorry for myself - less likely to cheat if I'm not feeling the need for a 'treat'.

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 11:03:25

dotty2 - instead of doing a starter, I'd be tempted to do an additional vegetable dish. Here's a lovely one, from "Curry", published by Dorling Kindersley:

Spinach and yoghurt curry (serves 4)


2 tablespoons vegetable oil
1/2 teaspoon mustard seeds
Pinch of fenugreek seeds
2 garlic cloves, finely chopped
3 dried red chillies
10 curry leaves
100g shallots, chopped
3 fresh green chillies, slit lengthways
2.5cm piece fresh root ginger, finely chopped
2 tomatoes, finely chopped
1/2 teaspoon ground termeric
100g spinach, chopped
300g plain yoghurt


- Heat the oil in a large saucepan and add the mustard seeds. As they beginto pop, add the fenugreek seeds, then add the garlic, dried chillies and curry leaves and saute for 1 minute.

- Add the shallots, green chillies and ginger and cook, stirring occasionally, until the shallots turn brown

- Add the tomatoes, turmeric and salt to taste. Mix thoroughly, then add the spinach and cook for 5 minutes, stirring occasionally

- Remove the pan from the heat and gradually add the yoghurt, stirring slowly and constantly. Set the pan on a low heat and warm gently for 3 minutes, stirring constantly. Serve warm.

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 11:04:50

DIYapprentice - why only 1 ibuprofen?! If you've got a thumping headache, take 2.

Hope you're feeling better soon.

LittleFrieda Tue 02-Oct-12 11:08:25

I've just realised how much I snack when Im working from home. shock

Am I allowed to eat butternut squash? <don't think so>

forsale that spicy pork mince stir fry does sound yummy... Ill be looking out for the recipe grin

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 11:13:15

dotty2 Here's a recipe that you could use as a starter - this one is from the Idiot Proof Diet Cookbook

Prawn Bhajias (makes 12)


250g raw king prawns
1 teaspoon easy ginger
1 teaspoon easy garlic
1 teaspoon garam masala
juice of one lemon
150g ground almonds
1 teaspoon nigella seeds (black onion seeds)
1 fat, fresh green chilli, finely chopped
1 teaspoon baking powder
1 tablespoon chopped fresh coriander
1 egg
100ml double cream
groundnut oil, for frying


- Chop the prawns roughly and mix together with the ginger, garlic, garam masala and lemon juice. Allow to marinate in the fridge for an hour

- Mix together the ground almonds, nigella seeds, chilli, baking powder, coriander and egg and add enough double cream to make a thick batter. Beat well. Stir the batter into the prawns

- Heat a thin film of oil in a non-stick saute pan over a low heat. When the oil is hot, use a dessertspoon to dollop the mixture into the pan. Leave the bhajias alone for at least 3 minutes to allow a crust to form - they are very fragile

- Use a spatula to turn the bhajias over and cook for another 3 minutes, or until they are firm and golden brown on both sides

TellMeLater Tue 02-Oct-12 11:15:03

Dotty2 there's a recipe for low carb pakora in the idiot proof diet cookbook or I have a recipe for paneer &herb fritters - both are good but the fritters need soy flour. They may already be on the recipe thread - if not I will restyle if you are interested.

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 11:15:11

LittleFrieda - butternut squash is 8.3g carbs per 100g, so it's really carby - unless you're only using a little bit, the answer is probably 'no' - sorry!

cathyandclaire Tue 02-Oct-12 11:15:19

Thanks for the reassurance 'Tellme" I will put my overnight weight gain down to the fact that I upped my weights at the gym yesterday --not the lindt sea salt chocolate and red wine on Sunday night--and my muscles must be swelling up like Popeye's grin
Have just made hungarian chicken for tonight...it's just chicken, paprika, tomatoes/passata and sour cream...
Anyone know if passata's ok (no added sugar apparently)?

TellMeLater Tue 02-Oct-12 11:16:15

Or you could do tandoori prawns...

caramelwaffle Tue 02-Oct-12 11:28:12

Good morning all.

Well I have just read about the butternut squash and M&S mayoinnaise: gutted <sniff>

I bought M&S full fat mayo and have been eating that as it tastes lovely and satisfies the sweet cravings - mainly. It is sweet tasting and I believe around 7.5g carb/100g (must check)

Am in an independent Department stores restaurant and am the youngest person here by a good 30 years; they have lots of homebaked scones/cakes. I actually salivated blush

Pot of black tea instead.

Breakfast was olives, feta cheese, Med cold meats and teaspoon mayonnaise.

Everyone is eating toasted teacakes around me; I'm inhaling carbs. Time to go smile

Having a funny day today - eating lots of eggs, salad, prawns, avocados etc (fried halloumi salad is yum!) but feeling really spacey, almost as if I'm not really here, and a little dizzy. Eating well, drinking lots of water, not sure what's going on... anyone else?

butterlies probably carbflu?? You generally will feel a little out of sorts when you first start but eat plenty of fatty foods and drink lots as you are... If your hungry then eat something ( thats in the rules)

Ps. I felt a bit dizzyfied yesterday but i carried on drinking and im fine today grin

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 11:44:00

butterflies - keep your salt intake up. Make sure you're eating plenty of (low carb) veg, and you should feel it pass after a couple of days.

cathyandclaire - check the carb count on the back of your passata pack/bottle, as the carb counts do vary.

Ilovemyteddy Tue 02-Oct-12 11:46:42

StrangeGlue - here is a lovely mushroom and cheese recipe from the IPD Cookbook which should be more filling

1 large field mushroom
30g crumbly goat's cheese
1tbsp chopped walnuts
1 tbsp chopped fresh parsley
1/2 tsp green peppercorns (I usually leave this out and just add a grind of black pepper instead)

Remove the stalk from the mushroom. Place the mushroom stalk side down onto a grill pan and brush with oil. Place under a hot grill for two minutes and turn over. Mix together the cheese, walnuts, parsley and peppercorns and spoon into the mushroom cap. Grill for three minutes until the top is golden brown.

I have been known to eat two of these <greedy> but one with some salad makes a great lunch.

I've just realised that we aren't supposed to eat nuts on Bootcamp so you could leave these out and eat two nut-free mushrooms instead--

Thanks Biwi. I am eating salt as I love salt and olive oil as a salad dressing, also adding it to scrambled eggs. Will bear it in mind.

Princess I think it is carb flu. Felt terrible on Sunday (my day 1) but better yesterday and thought it had passed... Not hungry at all...

DIYapprentice Tue 02-Oct-12 12:01:38

Biwi - I only took one ibuprofen to see if it would do the trick, and it has. A trick my GP told me was that sometimes taking half doses of pain relief, twice as often, would keep the pain relief level at a more constant level in your body. Was very ready to take the 2nd if needed!

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 12:09:24

Good! And glad that it did the job.

Doshusallie Tue 02-Oct-12 12:16:15

Blimey this thread is flying. BIWI how on earth are you managing to work as well as monitor this thread and keep us all in line? grin

STILL 9 3 THIS MORNING!! angry even with carbs on Saturday night, this should have gone down by now. Am well and truly stuck, which is especially galling when I was static at 9 1 2 weeks ago.

Was so good yesterday, no g&t, no nuts.

B: 3 soft boiled eggs, decaf tea with lactose free milk, berocca.
1 litre of water so far.

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 12:17:34

'cos I haven't got any work this week, Doshusallie! Next week will be a different matter, sadly. Or not sadly, if you take my bank account into account!

Keep on keeping on - you know ... grin

StrangeGlue Tue 02-Oct-12 12:17:40

The link to the Mayo just goes to the sainsbury website rather than a specific product.

Brekkie was small because I misestimated how much I'd need to feel full - it wasn't intentional.

Pleased about tuna result!

What is this berocca you speak of? What does it do?

NotMostPeople Tue 02-Oct-12 12:18:15

Scrambled egg on a bed of ham and grated cheese for breakfast.

A piece of dark chocolate 70% has just passed my lips, but I have been having a totally shitty morning and won't do it again.

Must remember the water.

StrangeGlue Tue 02-Oct-12 12:19:45

Oooh thanks for mushroom reciepe!

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 12:20:29

Oh, sorry about that, Strange. Here is the info, c+p:

Delouis Mayonnaise 250g
PricePromotionQuantity and add to trolley

Item code: 6538257
Sunflower Oil, Egg Yolk, Dijon Mustard (Mustard Seeds, Vinegar, Water, Salt), White Wine Vinegar, Salt, Lemon.

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 12:21:08

Princess - Berocca is a vitamin B/multivitamin.

dotty2 Tue 02-Oct-12 12:24:51

Thank you for the lovely recipe ideas. Pakoras and bhajis use almonds though. Spicy prawns sounds good and will look at recipe thread to see if pander fritters are there when on computer not phone.

Did my run. It was horrible: my legs felt like lead but I know this will pass in time. I started a less strict version of low carb back in spring and had the same then. List some weight then fell off the wagon but am still not as carb-dependent as I was so hoping it will be easier this time. Great to have so much support too.smile

EwanHoozami Tue 02-Oct-12 12:29:16

PortiaPony celeriac chips are one of the joyful joys of low-carbing. this from BBC Good Food is a good recipe. You don't need the curry powder. You need to be quite patient, they look a bit insipid for ages but will go a gorgeous crispy brown.

For the pork, I usually fry the chops in butter then slosh in a dressing of red wine vinegar, dried sage, wholegrain mustard and a few zests of orange and fry for another minute or so. To be a proper glaze the dressing would need honey but that is Not Allowed grin

GreenEyesAndHam Tue 02-Oct-12 12:31:19

Hello all <waves>

Breakfasted on ham and chicken slices with smoked cheddar cheese this morning, and lunch will be... Dunno yet, see what's on offer in the staff canteen

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 12:33:49

Belly pork for lunch for me - not sure what veg, but may have some mushrooms and leeks.

LittleFrieda Tue 02-Oct-12 12:36:25

Thanks for tip re butternut squash. Will avoid.

Lunch: Green beans (al dente) tossed in butter and lemon juice with chorizo and grilled goat's cheese and a mega handful of chopped parsley.

pixiestix Tue 02-Oct-12 12:39:23

Can anyone tell me when I can expect this fecking headache to go away? sad

BIWI I get serious jealousy pangs whenever i read you have eaten pork belly...i MUST get some when we do the shop tomorrow!!

I dont know what to have for lunch...i'm not really hungry! perhaps i'll just have the beef grillsteak i was going to have..but without the salad...good idea or bad?

WineGless Tue 02-Oct-12 12:49:10

Hi all just checking on- exam finished. Glad it's over but won't have results for few weeks. Really don't feel confident this time but bugger all I can do now.

Breakfast 2 boiled eggs at 7am
About to go to gym now for a workout.
What classes as fasted training? I obviously won't eat until I get home now
Lunch -tuna salad
D: spag Bol for everyone else with courgette pasta for me

Swimming lessons for DC tonight which s a battle with DS -cant wait

Jacaqueen Tue 02-Oct-12 12:53:18

Scrambled eggs and mushrooms for lunch. Caved in and had a cup of tea with a dash of lacto milk. Feel so much better.

If you have a headache drink some water and take a pain killer. No point in feeling ghastly. It will pass in a few days.

TooImmatureTurtleDoves Tue 02-Oct-12 13:07:16

Hope your exam went well, WineGless.

Pixie, try eating some salt - that might be contributing to the headache. Failing that, have a nice cuppa and some paracetamol and remember, This Too Shall Pass. It won't take long - I felt like shit for the first few mornings I low-carbed, but since then I've been fine.

B: Bacon, mushrooms and a tiny bit of DD's omelette. 2 cups tea with ff milk.
L: Chicken curry. 750ml bottle of water.
D: Will be beef stroganoff with some leftover roast beef. Luckily for me dairy doesn't stall me, as will be putting sour cream in it.

Poppy1234 Tue 02-Oct-12 13:13:43

Day 2 and another small tub of Total Greek for breakfast, curried cauliflower and coconut soup for lunch with a couple of chunks of feta melted in. The soup is the easiest soup I've ever made and gorgeous. Am presuming coconut milk is ok?

Dinner will be salmon burgers www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/7712/superhealthy-salmon-burgers with buttered courgettes. BBCgoodfood calculates the carb content as 7g per serving - BigStickBIWI is that in the realms of acceptability?

Delighted the delouis mayo gets the thumbs up as it's my all time favourite.

The sports cap bottle is a great tip and I'm wolfing down the water today.

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 13:16:04

That looks perfect, Poppy! Let us know what the burgers are like. They sound lovely.

noddyholder Tue 02-Oct-12 13:16:39

Fried eggs for breakfast
Decaf coffee and tea spoon cream
Salad for lunch with grated cheese
Will be having bacon and mushrooms for dinner
Water galore
No nuts is that right? sad

GreenEyesAndHam Tue 02-Oct-12 13:16:46

Pixie I felt really bad for one day, and generally crap for about three.

Well lunch was quiche (left the crust) with salad leaves and boiled eggs.

Pork chops and low carb bubble n squeak/ rosti things for tea

TellMeLater Tue 02-Oct-12 13:24:53

Had cream cheese pancakes for breakfast - buttered.

Went for a run.

Then had a horrible smear test and used all my willpower not to fall into a cake, bought a nice new lipstick instead.

Lunch was meant to be bacon & avocado salad - the avocado was over ripe so I substituted pine nuts - forgot pine nuts are not boot camp! Bugger.

teaandthorazine Tue 02-Oct-12 13:37:47

Leftover Indian takeaway for lunch - om nom NOM.

Trout fillets with some kind of veg for dinner I think.

Don't know why the sports cap trick works for drinking water but it really does!

LittleFrieda Tue 02-Oct-12 13:45:30

Does anyone know which coleslaw (bought) is lowest in carbs?

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 13:58:53

Goodness - who knew that there were so many different types of coleslaw?!

From the Sainsbury's website alone:

Basics CS - 3.7g carbs per 100g
Taste the Difference CS - 4.8g carbs per 100g
Taste the Difference West Country Cheddar CS - 5.1g carbs per 100g
Deli Style CS - 5.4 g carbs per 100g
Jalapeno CS - 5.6g carbs per 100g
Be Good To Yourself - 6.2g carbs per 100g
Cheese CS - 6.5g carbs per 100g
Mango & Chilli CS - 7.2g carbs per 100g
Peanut Satay CS - 8.7g carbs per 100g

So Sainsbury's Basics it is! (Or make your own - then it will be additive-free)

noddyholder Tue 02-Oct-12 14:18:34

I have always found sports cap best too. You can kind of shoot it down your throat doesn't seem such a chore!

TooImmatureTurtleDoves Tue 02-Oct-12 14:21:51

<necks water through sports cap while catching up with thread>

Jacaqueen Tue 02-Oct-12 14:24:58

I use a sports cap bottle when out and about, but find that a straw with room temp water, works well in the house. I love ice cold water normally but can only take small sips of that which is no good for getting through large amounts.

toomuchmonthatendofthemoney Tue 02-Oct-12 14:26:48

Hi all,

Things are going ok, but I am so sleepy!! I am usually a late owl but was in bed by 10 last night and fell asleep with book on my face! I feel like I could do with a nap right now too (half an hour till school pick up, hmmmm)

GreenEyesAndHam Tue 02-Oct-12 14:39:08

I just need a bottle, doesn't necessarily have to have a sports cap. I really struggle with glasses of water for some reason

LittleFrieda Tue 02-Oct-12 14:43:40

BIWI - Wow thanks for that. Quite a range of carb counts.

Waitrose creamy deli coleslaw is 3.9g carbs per 100g

NotAgainAndAgain Tue 02-Oct-12 14:45:58

Oh dear, 12 oz of latte (large that is) - 16 g carbs.
That's what part of my allowance gone?shock And that was my attempt to cheat breakfast confused

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 14:47:10

Yep. Milk = very high carb.

We're not really dealing in allowances, as there's no counting involved, but I would stick to really low carb veg for your evening meal. Salad would be good.

NotAgainAndAgain Tue 02-Oct-12 14:57:56

Thank you BIWI!
In terms of "better" or "equal" raw salad or cooked veg is preferred? I know no-no veg, but the "friendly" ones - I would imagine it would be not far? I am just so bore with salads sad
Was watching Come and Dine, found Peperoncini Frittata which is French sort of omlette, so I I change red peppers for green ones - can be within and well light diversion from plain omlette?

NotAgainAndAgain Tue 02-Oct-12 15:03:44

Pepperonchini Frittata (Italian Omlette)

4 tbsp olive oil
2 red green peppers, deseeded and sliced
200ml veg stock
1 onion, sliced
4 free range farm eggs
70g goat's cheese, crumbled
Handful of chopped parsley
Dressed salad to serve

Heat the oil in a frying pan and sauté the peppers until starting to soften. Add the stock and simmer for 20 minutes until the peppers are tender and the liquid has evaporated.

Once the liquid has evaporated turn up the heat and allow the peppers to char. Transfer to a bowl and set aside, then fry the onion until soft and set aside with the peppers.

Add the eggs, goat's cheese and herbs to the fried veg and whisk to combine. Season with salt and pepper.

Pour the mixture into the pan, shake evenly to spread then cook gently for 5 minutes. Get the grill going whilst it cooks, then finish the top of the frittata under the grill, cooking until golden.

Allow to stand in the pan for 5 minutes, then turn out and allow to cool. Slice and serve with dressed salad and bread.

Any good for the cause?

If you dont have a sports bottle how about a straw? Thats what ive been using to help with the drink... Works for me!!

halfthesize Tue 02-Oct-12 15:14:23

Keeping fingers crossed for you WineGless

I have no energy today, though may have something to do with DS2 being up through the night, also living in a building site at the moment whilst family bathroom being re done!!

NotAgain that omelette sounds lovely x

NigellasGuest Tue 02-Oct-12 15:22:09

notagain I would substitute the onion for shallot/s (onions are relatively carby and shallots are not so much).

and fry in butter, not olive oil. Olive oil is good when it's drizzled (or poured)! over things without heating it. But something happens when it's heated that isn't so good. (don't ask me what! someone will know).

NigellasGuest Tue 02-Oct-12 15:22:55

i should add.... apart from that, the recipe looks yummy!

Doshusallie Tue 02-Oct-12 15:25:21

Lunch: slice of roast beef, boiled egg, lots of salad, cucumber, tuna, mayo, roasted veg, chunk of cheese.

Another decaf coffee with splash of semi skimmed (all that the office fridge have - tempted to bring some cream in)

Another litre of water so that's my two for the day.

looks tasty notagain - i might cut down the onion a bit (or substitute shallot/leek/spring onion (are spring onions ok??)). you could pop it on the recipe thread?

hope exam went ok winegless

tellme was it a particularly horrible smear or just a regular horrible one? either way hope you feel better

Doshusallie Tue 02-Oct-12 15:27:21

Re water, i've got a 50 cl bottle that I keep refilling - which has just prompted a debate in the office as to how many cl constitutes a litre. 100 by the way. grin

sorry nigella xpost!

Doshusallie Tue 02-Oct-12 15:28:33

Congrats on book MME! And I hope your exam was ok Wine.

NigellasGuest Tue 02-Oct-12 15:29:56

no probs WillieWaggle and fwiw I believe spring onions are ok!

LittleFrieda Tue 02-Oct-12 15:30:15

Or perhaps a spring onion, instead of onion.

For dinner, I'm going to have fillet steak with bearnaise sauce with watercress salad and green beans, DH and DS1 can have a jacket potato.

ForSaletotheHighestBidder Tue 02-Oct-12 15:30:27

Didnt have balsamic, don't have a heart attack BIWI!

Went with a little bit of mayo on the side.

rofl littlefrieda

Fingers crossed for you wine.

I has forgotten how much better I feel sans carby foods! I played two games of netball last night.

B - three rashers of bacon
L - lettuce, tomatoes, cucumber, olives and feta
D - tbc - just going to choose something for the oven now as DH out!!!

LittleFrieda Tue 02-Oct-12 15:53:05

Willie - LOL I need to balance out the increased cost of my shopping. grin

LittleFrieda Tue 02-Oct-12 15:54:20

Mme - You've had a book published. Can you link? Congratulations.

caramelwaffle Tue 02-Oct-12 15:59:19

Have had baked cod, Corizo, ham and parma ham, Chilli oil, chills - lots, olives and feta cheese with a smidgen of mayo (am going to have to buy some Delouis mayonnaise)

I'll be honest. It feels like I am eating far, far too much fat. Oil and butter. Is this really good? Feels so counterintuitive.

I'll be doubly honest: I have a drumstick lollipop and have licked it three times <shifty look>

Felt spaced out earlier (probably the caffeine tea and eating less) Back to only herbal/fruit tea.

caramelwaffle Tue 02-Oct-12 16:00:03

Congratulations MmeLindor on the book release.

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 16:41:42

MmeLindor's book

WineGless - hope the exam was ok

caramel - no problems with the fat - honestly! The fat you eat doesn't become fat on your body - it's the carbohydrate that does. (So stop licking that lolly!)

ForSale - phew! grin

Doshusallie Tue 02-Oct-12 16:48:05

i was going to ask which book but assumed MME wouldn't want to be outed???

Mind you it might sell more copies -I have no idea how to do what her book is about!

CakeMeIAmYours Tue 02-Oct-12 16:50:42

Well done MmeLindor !

So today:

B - pan fried chicken breast that I had marinated in olive oil/mint/lemon/chilli overnight
L - Crayfish tails mixed with a bit of full fat mayo and lemon juice and eaten like a fajita but with lettuce leaves instead of tortillas
D - Homemade beef burger with a grating of cheddar which I will also wrap in lettuce following the success of lunch smile

Breaking news, however, is that I had no tea at all today - not a single cup! So no milk - wooohooo!

Have been drinking herbal tea and water all day instead and am now much better friends with my loo smile

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 16:53:35

No - she doesn't mind (I checked)! It's called Learn Twitter in 10 Minutes.

Good loo news, Cake!

GreenEyesAndHam Tue 02-Oct-12 17:03:37

Well done Mme L!

Jacaqueen Tue 02-Oct-12 17:06:08

Well done on the tea Cake.
I did well yesterday but succumbed today.

I definitely think I have issues with dairy. After a little bit of milk in my tea earlier I have been tempted whilst grating cheese for the children.

TooImmatureTurtleDoves Tue 02-Oct-12 17:19:48

blush have had 3 cups of tea with ff milk today so far. Might try drinking coffee with cream this evening instead.

Jaca, dairy isn't necessarily bad. It can stall some people. You may or may not be one of them. I have learned from refusing to give it up experimentation that I can eat it and still lose weight, but my stepfather, for instance, gets 'cheese sweats' (ew!). Milk is too carby for Bootcamp, though, even full fat. sad

Limonata Tue 02-Oct-12 17:27:54

Reading this thread is making me SOOOO hungry! And it's the dratted Bake Off tonight which I LOVE, and is like a kind of pleasure/pain torture. Did anyone see the doughnuts last week? (left eye twitches a bit when I think about it...)
B: Full fat plain yogurt w cinnamon
L:Left over roast chicken and roast veg from last night (aubergine, courgette,red onion - only a little bit) parma ham and two scrambled eggs
D: Will be lamb with mint, more roasted veg as above, green beans and broccoli with butter and feta crumbled over the top. Bake Off for pudding....

wordfactory Tue 02-Oct-12 17:31:18

I did okay at my lunch out.

Courgette soup with fried courgette flowers. Followed by a fetta, olive and sprout salad.

I heroically declined a fabulous chocolate torte...but did have two glasses of champagne blush. In my defence, we had a lot to celebrate.

toomuchmonthatendofthemoney Tue 02-Oct-12 17:33:47

Things I have NOT done today

I did not lick the nutella spread knife that dh left by the sink this morning

I did not have a biccy with my 2pm (black) coffee

I did not finish the last few crisps left in the bag in Ds lunchbox (gave them to the dog)

I did not eat the banana and toast leftovers from DS post school snack (gave crusts to the dog)

I am very very proud of myself so far grin the dog is pretty chuffed with me too wink I may have to schedule him an extra long walk if I keep using him as my carb dustbin!!

RatherBeOnThePiste Tue 02-Oct-12 17:37:29

I am craving carbs so badly! Am trying to talk myself down here sad

HumphreyCobbler Tue 02-Oct-12 17:41:26

don't do it! You can make it through. Break that carb addiction, don't let it win!

I always found eating some lettuce with some really salty salad dressing helped for some reason. Or some cheese.

WineGless Tue 02-Oct-12 18:04:03

Pistey don't do it
Nothing tastes as good as being slim feels!are you waiting for tea to cook? Can you have a glass of water?

RatherBeOnThePiste Tue 02-Oct-12 18:09:07

Aww you are so kind, I haven't given in but am really craving. I've done low carb before but had fallen off over the last week big time and now it is just like starting all the way from scratch, which of course it is.

I had to buy a shed load of stuff for my daughter to make flapjacks and brownies, and that isn't helping, I just want to shovel it all into my gob blush

But I shan't. Brave words grin


CakeMeIAmYours Tue 02-Oct-12 18:11:09

Oh god, I'd forgotten about the Bake Off - not sure I can face it, its just one big carb-fest!

WineGless Tue 02-Oct-12 18:28:59

Pistey am feeling much the same. Fell off wagon last week and its tough carrying on even though I feel so much better without carbs.

Keep the faith (as JBJ would say)

WineGless Tue 02-Oct-12 18:31:02

toomuchmonth well done! You have done brilliantly although that's one carb laden pooch!

Word factory - if it's good enough for BIWI it's good enough for you. Champers all round???

WineGless Tue 02-Oct-12 18:32:13

Limonata and cakemeimyours- your meals look scrummy. Am going to pinch some ideas

caramelwaffle Tue 02-Oct-12 18:32:41

Lollipop given away to mini Waffle.

For anyone craving chocolate I highly, highly, highly recommend the following:

choco Aztec Spice organic tea

It is a spiced tea.

When you drink it, it leaves a slight film on your tongue that, to me, tastes like melted Galaxy chocolate.

I am doing a slight experiment at the moment; I am brewing two cups and leaving one with just the water one one with a splash of cream: I'll let you now if the creamy one is much more chocolatey or if it doesn't really require it.

I suppose really it may just come down to personal taste.

Following info. from MyFitness Pal

Choco Aztec Tea

Calories0Sodium0 mg
Total Fat0 gPotassium0 mg
Saturated0 gTotal Carbs0 g
Polyunsaturated0 gDietary Fiber0 g
Monounsaturated0 gSugars0 g
Trans0 gProtein0 g
Cholesterol0 mg
Vitamin A0%Calcium0%
Vitamin C0%Iron0%

caramelwaffle Tue 02-Oct-12 18:34:14

Well done Word

Piste try the tea I just mentioned.

caramelwaffle Tue 02-Oct-12 18:35:05


Of course it's a spiced tea hmm grin

toomuch well done - all those little victories make a massive difference!!!

pistey don't do it - you'll only regret it later. Have some cheese or clean your teeth or a peppermint tea or something that sweet thins don't 'go' with!

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 18:50:27

I'm not sure a mini Waffle is much better, though, caramel sad

And it's better not to try and have 'substitute' sweet things, even though it might be hard - we are trying to break the addition to sweet tastes.

Pistey - stay strong! Don't do it! You know it's only the evil carbs trying to seduce you. Have a piece of cheese instead.

wordfactory - glad to hear you have something to celebrate! I didn't even have that excuse grin

I've not been feeling so well today. Am going down with a cold I think. So I only managed pork belly for lunch, didn't really want anything with it, and then I went to bed for an hour or so this afternoon. Dinner will be spicy beef stew (stewing beef, shallots, chilli, green pepper, mushrooms and a tin of tomatoes, with ground cumin/groound coriander and dried oregano and a splash of white wine to deglaze the pan I fried the beef in.) Mashed celeriac for me, mashed potatoes for DH/DS2, and red cabbage braised with cider vinegar and butter.

I was all ready to try the choc aztec tea... but I dont like galaxy, if I have 'cheap' chocolate it is Cadbury. if you tell me it tastes like dairy milk I shall buy it! grin

today was a bit strange. I had scrambled eggs for breakfast, black coffee, couple of glasses of water, felt full up. Walked dogs, ran around doing laundry, dishwasher etc then went to town to meet a friend for coffee (again, black) then we hit the shops, by the time we had lunch I was ravenous and ordered poached eggs with bacon and hollandaise sauce on a toasted muffin. I ate half the muffin which I know isnt good but I felt awful and as I wasnt at home or near a M&S food hall or similar otherwise I would have bought some cheese/meat and scoffed that on the hoof.

Anyway, not the end of the world really is it? Dinner was roast pork, celeriac dauphinoise and green veggies. V delicious.

Going to stick a little pack of nuts in handbag and a babybel for snacks.

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 18:53:04


OK OK OK! What else can I keep in my bag to snack on then?

<said in whiney voice>


Where do I buy the bloody aztec tea?


TellMeLater Tue 02-Oct-12 18:58:06

Just ordered the choc Aztec species tea - hope its good - currently consuming large quanitities of tea pigs liquorice & peppermint.

Just had a lovely pizza for dinner - best so far according to the dcs, who nervously test each one, hoping for an acceptable flavour. I topped my half with buttered leeks, roasted pepper and naice bacon from the butcher! Kids topped theirs with extra pesto and Parmesan and then the whole lot got a drizzle EVOO.

caramelwaffle Tue 02-Oct-12 19:03:46

Not given in to. Given away to grin

caramelwaffle Tue 02-Oct-12 19:04:58

Mini Waffle is having it for dessert.

Doshusallie Tue 02-Oct-12 19:05:03

Snacks: slice of nice ham and a baby bel

Saturday is deffo going to be a wagon jump - dh is planning to make roasted red pepper and tomato soup with homemade rosemary scones, and rack of lamb with parsnip mash and red wine sauce for our dinner party. Will be able to have cheese instead of the decadent choc puddings I am making but can't exactly not eat the starter and main can I?

poor BIWI think she thought you swapped a lollipop for a waffle! grin

where does one purchase this tea of chocciness?

caramelwaffle Tue 02-Oct-12 19:10:22

Ethical Superstore

Natural collection

Holland and Barrett

caramelwaffle Tue 02-Oct-12 19:13:15

No Sugar substitutes BIWI?! sad

<grabs and hides stick>

foosty Tue 02-Oct-12 19:13:57

today going well for me...

Breakfast -2 eggs scrambled with 2 mushrooms and some Mattesons smoked pork sausage (there's 0g carbs in it!)

Lunch - a few slices of salami and chorizo, some olives, some smoked cheese, some gherkins

Dinner will be a chicken steak which is marinating in a Paul Newman Cajun Sauce (7g carbs per 100g - reckon I've used about 20-30g) and maybe cauliflower cheese and broccoli cheese (might not do the cheese sauce but I make a GORGEOUS low carb version which is hard to resist..!)

I can't do without my tea. I just can't. I can go easily without coffee, but not tea. I take it with a splash of milk - not loads- and a quarter spoonful of Half-Spoon sugar, trying to lower the amount I use every day. Is there another kind of dairy free milk substitute I could use instead of ss milk? I don't want it to make my tea taste different! Or would I be better off switching to coffee with cream?

Caramel I read that the same as biwi!

caramelwaffle Tue 02-Oct-12 19:19:47

I need a week in Pedants Corner to put me on the straight and narrow grin

Have just been handed not wanted/leftover M&S lamb mince; it tastes so, so sweet. I can't eat it.

frumpet Tue 02-Oct-12 19:22:28

Bit of a disaster today as forgot bag to take to work with my clothes and food in , only get one 15 min break and nothing non carby to eat , so had to wait till i got home at four , then mainlined some pepperoni ! Haven't drunk very much water either as no time at work and not allowed to have bottles of water . Having a gigantic and very lush salad for tea with spinach , avocado , a tomato and mozzarella , yum !

LittleFrieda Tue 02-Oct-12 19:24:09

My lovely husband just came and sat at the desk beside me and ate a big slab of chocolate birthday cake. I felt nothing but contempt for either of them. grin

caramelwaffle Tue 02-Oct-12 19:26:36

One 15 minute break? And no water allowed? Ouch

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 19:40:25

caramel - sorry - I thought you'd given into potato-based snacks grin

TellMe Later - I hope/I assume you don't mean real pizza ... hmm

LittleFrieda - grin

Jacaqueen Tue 02-Oct-12 19:49:45

LittleFrieda that is funny.

toomuchmonthatendofthemoney Tue 02-Oct-12 20:02:49

Frumpet I am really intrigued and trying to work out what you must do for a job?! Sounds tough anyway!!

BigStickBIWI Tue 02-Oct-12 20:16:09

frumpet - well done to not giving into the lure of the carby stuff!

foosty - how many cups of tea are you having? If it's only one or two, then it probably doesn't matter - but just keep an eye on it.

mumtoblaire Tue 02-Oct-12 20:25:37

Feeling pretty good and no headaches.

Breakfast was 2 hotdogs and 2 poached eggs with mayo
Lunch was 2 turkey rashers and 2 slice of cheese with extra virgin olive oil
Dinner chicken salad - chicken, lettuce, cucumber, tomato and mayo
Got through 2 litres of water.

I did have 2 cups of tea with 10ml of skimmed milk in each.

NigellasGuest Tue 02-Oct-12 20:26:39

you can use Vanilla Essence as a sweetener I think.
if appropriate!

Doshusallie Tue 02-Oct-12 20:37:01

Tea was chicken curry and green beans.

Coffee with cream.

Doshusallie Tue 02-Oct-12 20:39:03

Watching the great british bake off is torture.

foosty Tue 02-Oct-12 20:40:12

Hi BIWI - I usually have about 3 or 4 a day. 3 before lunch time sometimes! Am trying to have a big glass of water first thing these days too.

just had dinner and am stuffed. Had cabbage and cauliflower cheese with my chicken. Was YUMMY.

<haven't checked how low-carb-friendly cabbage is...say it's ok!>

CakeMeIAmYours Tue 02-Oct-12 20:40:18

I was just thinking the same Doshusallie sad

LaVitaBellissima Tue 02-Oct-12 20:41:19

Dosh I feel your pain, why oh why am. I watching the great British Bake off??????? Gingerbread, caramel.... And DM has come to stay and is quaffing a bottle of red right next to me envy

Viperidae Tue 02-Oct-12 20:41:40

I am back to feeling a bit spaced out, just like I did last time I low carbed. Had headache and felt achey and yuk today but am taking my supplements and having some salt and plenty of water so, hopefully, it will pass soon.

Last time I lost over a stone in 3 weeks but then had a holiday (with an accessible Haagen-Dazs shop) and a week of birthdays, etc. When I weighed on Mon it looks like I regained 9lb in 2 weeks shock

Anyway, today I ate:
B - Courgette frittata
L - Cold meats and a tiny bit of salad (salads were mostly pasta, couscous, etc so think I just ate a garnish!) It was a work lunch so no choice
T - Slow roast belly pork, celeriac dauphinoise and mushrooms with a little Boursin

chocbuttons Tue 02-Oct-12 20:43:26

Can I join in late pls? I was a bit last minute, but did get started yesterday. (Dont need to be added to the spread sheet as I dont have scales - just want to get into my old clothes!!)
Anyway, everyone seems to be doing really well. Wanted to ask if anyone else is feeling hungry and sick at the same time (as in nauseous - reminds me of being pregnant)? And worst of all I already am sick of eggs, cheese and fatty things (am veggie so options are limited). Menu so far -day 1 - scrambled eggs, fried tofu and courgette with green salad, mushrooms fried in sour cream with green salad. Day 2 - Greek yoghurt with a few almonds, mushrooms as per day 1s dinner, mashed cauli. Snacks - a bit of cheese and about 7 peanuts.
Anyone got any advice? I'm hungry all the time, but can't face more eggs and cheese...

Ilovemyteddy Tue 02-Oct-12 20:45:33

Just been to the gym. I bloody hate exercise but i'm getting addicted to the treadmill, particularly as i can watch tv at the same time grin

Brought some portobello mushrooms and goats cheese to make the recipe i posted upthread for brekkie tomorrow. Black Farmers sausages cabbage broccoli and leeks for dinner. Yum!

Ilovemyteddy Tue 02-Oct-12 20:46:23

Just been to the gym. I bloody hate exercise but i'm getting addicted to the treadmill, particularly as i can watch tv at the same time grin

Brought some portobello mushrooms and goats cheese to make the recipe i posted upthread for brekkie tomorrow. Black Farmers sausages cabbage broccoli and leeks for dinner. Yum!

TooImmatureTurtleDoves Tue 02-Oct-12 20:50:43

Trying to psych myself up to Shred, but still feel really full from dinner.

Dinner was changed at last minute to fry-up, featuring low-carb sausages, bacon, scrambled eggs and mushrooms, due to discovery that sausages were about to go off. However, I gave DD some Greek yoghurt for pudding and had some myself and it just tipped me over into far-too-full mode, bleurgh.

MsRinky Tue 02-Oct-12 20:52:47

Evening all.

Menu today, mini frittatas for breakfast, smoked tuna, feta, cucumber and olives for lunch, roast pork fillet with sage and creme fraiche sauce, tender stem broccoli, roasted Brussels sprouts.

Viperidae Tue 02-Oct-12 20:54:19

I might make Nigella's "meatzza" tomorrow, has anyone else tried it? www.nigella.com/recipes/view/MEATZZA-5546

Thought I'd leave the breadcrumbs out to make it low carb and serve with salad.

Does anyone have any links to a good curry recipe? What do you substitute rice with?

TooImmatureTurtleDoves Tue 02-Oct-12 21:05:15

Loving the meatzza idea! Will have to try that.

TellMeLater Tue 02-Oct-