Right that's it -I'm going to diet using Zoe harcombe the lard must go...

(91 Posts)
Stylelostinlabour Wed 28-Dec-11 09:30:40

Well I think it's time to stop moaning and get on with losing 3 stone so I've been reading up on diet and have decided the ZH one is for me.

I'm starting on Sunday 1st January if anyone wants to join me?

I'll do phase 1 for 5 days then I'm going to build in couch to 5k as well.

Anyone fancy joining me on the journey and sharing ideas and motivation?

ppeatfruit Wed 28-Dec-11 10:20:07

I don't want to put you off Harcombe but from what I know about it you'd be better going onto something permanently possible like Paul Mckenna (BTW I lost 3 stone on it last year) and am still maintaining. I combine it with the blood type which is for my health. They both WORK smile

muttimalzwei Wed 28-Dec-11 11:16:18

I will join you. Been on it and since letting myself eat anything and everything over Christmas I have put on weight and feel terrible. It works quickly and makes you feel great. ppeatfruit what do you mean by permanently possible? When you do phase 3 of Harcombe (ie when you have lost all the weight you want to) you can combine fats and carbs at the same meal but the principles of eating healthily and avoiding processed remain if you are to keep weight off.

Stylelostinlabour Wed 28-Dec-11 11:32:18

Ppeatful - is the Paul McKenna one hypo? As tried hypo and it's really not for me.

Welcome muttimalzwei - when did you start it and how did you find phase 1?

The reason I think it will work for me is because with all 3 pregnancies I was gest diabetic and lost weight while pregnant (talking 2 plus stone each time) so think I have blood sugar problem. It's not enough to need insulin again but when I was on insulin the weight came off me and I was following a diabetic diet.

Also last year I was training loads for a big event but didnt lose a pound so the less in more put out that's she talks about really rings true for me. I was training 6 days a week and following a diet to help with challenge but nothing not an ounce went...

Right off to read up more and get really motivated it's been too long being fat apart from when pregnant and that's so not an option.

muttimalzwei Wed 28-Dec-11 11:44:21

Phase 1 wasn't too hard. Came off cafferine and had horrendous headaches day 1 and 2 (took paracetamol) and day 3 had leg cramps from the lack of carbs which seems to be quite common. Bloating went straight away and by day 4 I felt so alive and full of energy. I did it very easily perhpas because it was summer and I ate yog for breakfast or eggs, salad and tuna/ham/cheese for dinner (loads) and meat and veg for tea. All food I like anyway. Went on fizzy water and herbal tea. Lost 9 lbs in a week then in total (I suppose I stopped doing phase 2 around November) I lost about a stone and a half. Went from a 16 to a 14 and my fat seemed to melt away. I enjoy t he food so it's not a problem and it really deos seem to sort cravings out. I wasn't hungry. BUT as soon as I have been allowing myself biscuits and chocs at Christmas etc I have put on about 5lbs and feel flabby and lethargic. I need to keep on this diet so I will happily start again Jan 1st.

muttimalzwei Wed 28-Dec-11 11:45:32

And as soon as you go back on processed food and excessive carbs, the bloating is back and you feel puffy faced.

Stylelostinlabour Wed 28-Dec-11 12:15:19

Wow well done you -I'm currently a 16 and aiming to get down to a proper 12 not vanity sizing! Looking at the diet I should be fine as love all the food just need to ensure I don't get lazy and forget what I can and can't eat also I need to ensure that if I lose 5lb that it's great but I still need to lose a load more.

What kind of things do/did you eat?

muttimalzwei Wed 28-Dec-11 12:28:21

Porridge skimmed milk for breakfast, fruit mid morning. (boring but worked for me) When away would have full cooked without anything processed ie hash browns or sausages. Rice cakes, cottage cheese and chopped up salad veg, soup, humous and oat cakes, baked pots and cottage cheese, huge salads with chicken, ham, cheese for lunch. (ie no sandwiches) then tea would be whatever the kids were having but I would take out the carb. ie. spag bol woudl have all the mince but with veg, chicken/prawnstir fry veg, lots of stews and curries with no potatoes or rice. Lots of omelettes with bacon, peppers, mushrooms etc. Lots of veg pasta dishes with wholewheat pasta and things like ratatouille with couscous or brown rice. Fish or meat with veg, lots of roasted veg with everything! Ate cubed cheese and olives at night! and a bit of red wine and decent choc if I fancied.

Stylelostinlabour Wed 28-Dec-11 13:44:04

Sounds great - I'm so going to do this in 2012. Have kind of started as suddenly really aware of food I'm eating

muttimalzwei Wed 28-Dec-11 13:48:04

I think the added bonus with this is that it makes you feel so much better and even started to improve my mood and general outlook. You are what you eat basically, not rocket science but better for me than Weightwatchers which can see you relying on low fat artificial snacks to keep you going. My brother has lost 3 stone on it and is so chuffed with himself and honestly looks 10 years younger.

Stylelostinlabour Wed 28-Dec-11 16:07:59

That's the kind of thing I need to hear before starting

ppeatfruit Thu 29-Dec-11 08:52:10

Harcombe is good for some people but I can't eat too much protein it just makes me ill. I agree with no dairy and processed food, but I LOVE fruit and have lost 3 stone still eating a lot of it (the secret is to eat it on an empty stomach).

The hypnosis thing in paul mckenna is nothing much (you can do it without) But if you watch T.V. adverts, and or drink tea, coffee, alcohol etc. you 're altering yr mind without even being aware of it!!

shagmundfreud Thu 29-Dec-11 09:42:32

I've been low carbing for a few weeks and have lost half a stone. Pig to twig mostly. However, I got the Zoe Harcombe book and will be using that from this weekend onwards.

Have to say, breaking my low carb diet over Christmas has been the biggest incentive to get going again. I feel bloody awful after having felt REALLY good for weeks.

The really hard part for me is coming off the caffeine, and I will do that slowly over the next few days.

shagmundfreud Thu 29-Dec-11 09:48:05

Style - I also had gd in my two pregnancies and lost weight.

Low carbing has been a revelation to me. I felt SO much better doing it. No more falling asleep in the evenings putting ds to bed. No more day time naps. Vastly more energy. Some strange things too - I have plantar fasciitis in my feet and that went. Sinusitis better too. Last 10 days I've gone back to eating refined carbs and all my plantar fasciitis symptoms and tiredness has come back in spades. sad

There are some really good recipes in Zoe Harcombe. Particularly love the vegetable curries. And I don't miss fruit at all!

shagmundfreud Thu 29-Dec-11 09:50:50

Can we include meal ideas in this thread?

Can I start with ideas for phase one breakfasts?

I like herrings roe fried in butter and olive oil, with salt and pepper.

Scrambled eggs with smoked salmon also good.

Actually anything fishy.....

ppeatfruit Thu 29-Dec-11 12:25:02

shagmund Lol at the name smile S'funny about that tiredness thing with carbs, I ONLY get it when I eat wheat i can eat porridge,rye bread etc. and feel fine yet after Xmas as you said I felt shxx 'cos of the wheat in the mince pies etc. Also it makes DH exhausted and grumpy!!

Stylelostinlabour Thu 29-Dec-11 19:05:22

I was going for either:

Scramble egg and salmon
Porridge and water
Poached haddock

For lunch I'm wanting to find a couple of soup recipes and for evening meals I'll have:

Salmon and roast veg
Steak and salad
Roast chicken and roast veg
Prawns, salmon and salad
And more steak!

I think I've found what my intolerance is and it's wheat in bread as if bread is around I just can't leave it alone either that or it's butter?

I also remember that fruit used to send my blood sugars through the roof when I was doing pin tests 3 times a day - I used to be around 7.2 but if I eat say strawberries then my sugar level would hit around 17!

foreverondiet Thu 29-Dec-11 19:51:17

I had a go using her diet but tbh the stupid rules drove me mad and I'm not actually convinced about it anyway - although do agree with her views on phase 1 (ie intolerances/candida etc) and processed foods.

After reading many books including dukan, ZH, Adore Yourself slim, south beach, lean and clean, what works for me is low carb low fat (but not no carb, just minimal grains) and no processed food. I eat lots of fruit and veg, eggs, fat free dairy, lean protein, oily fish, nuts & quorn.

So breakfast - 2 egg omelette, fat free yoghurt with oatbran (inspired from dukan!)

Lunch - salad veggies plus usually oily fish (generally from tin eg sardines, mackeral, tuna, smoked salmon. Dressing yoghurt based.

Dinner - mountains of veggies plus protein (chicken, turkey, lean beef mince, white fish, tofu, quorn etc etc - sometimes as stir -fry, sometimes with with chopped tomatoes and loads of veggies.

Snacks - when hungry - apple, nuts (25g portion), yoghurt. Maybe couple of oatcakes or ryvita with cottage cheese.

Stylelostinlabour Thu 29-Dec-11 20:14:22

What rules did you find drove you mad? Apart from fat/carb in phase 2 it all seems straight forward really and not dissimilar to most diets

muttimalzwei Fri 30-Dec-11 15:13:58

Only bits that got on my nerves were the inability to have carb with fish. ie really missed prawn cocktail and jacket potato or tuna sandwich. Did start cheating and having tuna and prawns with (a bit of ) carb as got sick of only cottage cheese sandwich or jacket potato with Quark. Found myself having (good quality) bag of chips for lunch quite often as carb choice and that always made up for any feelings of deprivation.

Chestnutx3 Fri 30-Dec-11 20:02:20

I only did phase I of ZH - I thought I would have loads of symptoms but had none at all, just got very bored with bacon and eggs. I only lost 2lbs during Phase I and so got disillusioned as a result and stopped. Only had a stone to lose in total at most, half of stone would have been good.

Recently lost 6lbs in 4 weeks with little effort/thought and no fad diets - i've eaten more carbs and dairy (meant to help with PMS) and less fruit and veg (as I seem less hungry with more dairy in my diet). I'm very perplexed.

Stylelostinlabour Fri 30-Dec-11 20:42:08

I think the body is so complex - I have never lost weight on slimming world or ww even though I followed to the letter and actually on slimming world I gained 6lbs in the first week!

The only thing I know works is getting my insulin levels sorted and killing the bread etc

I'll give it a go got nothing to lose apart from pounds I hope and what with doing c25k and shred I better bloody lose something!

muttimalzwei Sat 31-Dec-11 09:44:06

Oh dear have just realised I'm supposed to start tomorrow! The caffeine deprivation after a (no doubt) hangover is going to be HARD!!!

ppeatfruit Sat 31-Dec-11 10:46:58

Everyone (including Z Harcombe) seems to forget that WE ALL ARE DIFFERENT!!!! so we respond differently to diff. ways of eating or diets that's why I follow the Blood Type diet and paul mckenna.

Although the "not mixing protein with carbs" is good for digestion and weight loss.

ppeatfruit Sat 31-Dec-11 10:50:05

Chestnuts you are probably an AB or B blood type who do well with dairy so don't be perplexed!! smile

Stylelostinlabour Sat 31-Dec-11 13:38:56

Started today without tea and bread so hopefully tmrw wont be as bad

Chestnutx3 Sat 31-Dec-11 14:31:04

ppfruit - I'm O blood type so dairy should be out for me!

Stylelostinlabour Sat 31-Dec-11 15:35:45

Right day one under way

Missed breakfast (went food shopping instead and had decaf coffee black)
Homemade veg soup for lunch
Roast chicken as snack
Lamb shank and carrot/swede for tea

Hopefully I havent failed on the first day by eating something I shouldn't?

Headache has just kicked in as well so much drink more water

jicky Sat 31-Dec-11 18:50:02

A lunch recommendation is the roasted butternut squash soup that's in her book. It is wonderful. I'm going to start again on Tuesday. Really feel bloated with Christmas carbs.

Stylelostinlabour Sat 31-Dec-11 19:21:00

Oh will find that one as have some butternut squash

can I mark my place to join you all from Monday? I was planning to start tomorrow but DH wants to have a big family cooked lunch tomorrow to make up for the fact that I took one bite on Christmas day and ended up in hospital (it had nothing to do with his cooking!)

Due to gallbladder issues I thought this plan might be better for me than low carbing but I need to get my head around what I can and can't eat. I have the blue recipe book already, is it worth getting the main green book as well?

oh and could anyone offer some tips on drinking enough water as I am useless at it?

TheGoddessBlossom Sat 31-Dec-11 21:30:19

I sort of follow zh but mainly steer clear of carbs altogether apart from porridge with water. Have been reasonably good even I dr Christmas apart from today. Fell massively off the wagon have have had chocolate, rice, and loads of bread, and to be quite honest feel bloTed, puffy and generally really crap.

For me the main benefits of low carb are:

Thrush completely gone for first time in years
No desire at all to snack between meals
Cravings for bread gone
No longer get faint and shaky when hungry - used to have to eat every 3 hours to avoid this

I had headaches for 3-4 days during phase 1 coming off caffiene but don't miss it now.
The hardest thing to do is to find food on the move as stations and garages are all about the sandwich. But more and more there are m&s food places where you can get a salad etc.

I have not necessarily lost weight on this eating plan but find it easier to maintain my ideal weight and the other benefits mentioned above make it worth it.

muttimalzwei Sun 01-Jan-12 15:09:31

Style I am starting tomorrow. Too much cheese and crackers to consume today. It's going to hit me hard as I have been really back on caffeine due to sleep deprivation. Just made carrot and coriander soup in preparation.
CutItOut have upi tried drinking fizzy water? That seems to quench thirst better and seem a bit more interesting. Plus you can get a bit of a funny taste with the first few days and sparkling seems to cleanse your palate or whatever somehow. I drank a lot of peppermint tea too for the same reasons.

muttimalzwei Sun 01-Jan-12 15:10:34

Goddess you are spot on with the benefits. The main advantage to me of this over other diets I've tried is that you really lose the need to snack between meals.

BerylStreep Sun 01-Jan-12 15:24:31

Can I join too?

I did ZH before, with amazing success, but I fell off the wheat-free and refined foods wagon, and have put back all of the weight I lost sad. I went from being 96kg to 80kg over the course of 16 months, but in the following 22 months have slowly put it all back on. There are various reasons for this, partly because I haven't really been able to exercise following surgery, but it all becomes a vicious circle, and when you are bloated and tired from eating bread, the last thing you feel is motivated to exercise.

I stepped on the scales today and I am back to 96kg! (I think a lot of it is bloating, as I have put on 3kg in about a week).

ZH isn't for everyone, but it works for me. I have been wheat & sugar-free today so far, and plan to start phase 1 tomorrow.

My NY resolution is also to do more exercise - I am aiming for 4 sessions a week - pilates, walking with friends one night a week, dance on the PS3 and a family walk at the weekend. If I can also add a bike ride, all the better, but I think I need to be realistic.

Good luck everyone for phase 1.
CutItOutandRestart - I would really recommend getting the green book as well - it explains the principles of the diet.

Am also interested in this blood type diet.

Stylelostinlabour Sun 01-Jan-12 15:42:43

Welcome all - how we all doing today?

muttimalzwei Sun 01-Jan-12 16:28:51

not well but enjoying the last pickings of 'bad' food. Start tomorrow. How are you getting on

Stylelostinlabour Sun 01-Jan-12 16:34:06

Think it's going OK - even with going out for lunch managed to have prawns and steak and salad, no pudding and a decaf black coffee.

Although I did eat some corn on the cob and then thought should I have eaten that aaarrggghhhh

Need ideas for drinks as I usually live on tea about 12 cups a day

TheGoddessBlossom Sun 01-Jan-12 16:34:12

Better! Porridge with water for brekkie, ham and pea soup for lunch and DH is cooking roast pork so will have meat and veg for tea. Have avoided all the leftover chocolates from the tree (so far.....)

Stylelostinlabour Sun 01-Jan-12 17:12:13

Oh I forgot about porridge with have that tomorrow - good going stay away from the chocs!

TheGoddessBlossom Sun 01-Jan-12 20:30:09

am extremely full after tea so anything I eat now would be sheer gluttony. Will be good and have a cuppa and nothing with it. Hopefully. Evenings are the worst time for me.

Stylelostinlabour Mon 02-Jan-12 18:39:15

Day two nearly completed just need to stay good when kids have gone to bed - missing my cup of tea though!

Can you ever have milk - not bothered about decaf but I miss milk in my tea

No side effects or cravings so far maybe day three with be harder.

Right what's everyone eating for breakfast?

I started out with just yoghurt this morning but it all fell apart in the afternoon due to the vast amount of Christmas food still in the house blush

The positives are that I have drunk more water today and I have stocked up on some ingredients to make some of the recipes in my book.

Talking of milk, would lacto free or soya be ok? I am going to be using the lacto free for a cuppa in the morning and then hot water and lemon the rest of the day.

Back to work tomorrow sad so I am planning on have some eggs and veggie sausages in the morning. Fingers crossed this will keep me going until lunch.

Stylelostinlabour Mon 02-Jan-12 20:23:52

Not sure about soya as love a soya latte!

TheGoddessBlossom Mon 02-Jan-12 21:27:57

I did have a splash of skimmed milk in decaf tea and coffee in phase 1. I also drank caffeine free diet coke.

Porridge with water for brekkie (always have this, so quick and easy)
Pizza express roasted vegetable and goats cheese salad for lunch, no dough sticks
Leftover roast pork with salad for tea.

3 glasses of white wine blush

Stylelostinlabour Mon 02-Jan-12 21:41:07

Pizza express lunch sounds lovely! Alas I'm being super good and had another fruit tea just not the same...

On a plus I hopped onto the scales this am and I'm 4lbs down already in 2 days

muttimalzwei Tue 03-Jan-12 10:05:51

That's brilliant. I am slowly getting ready for phase one. Cutting back on caffeine and eating well again.

BerylStreep Tue 03-Jan-12 16:34:32

I am on day 2 of phase 1 - I felt great yesterday and have been fine today, although I am feeling very snackish. Have just had a small natural yoghurt with a handful of unsalted mixed nuts to keep me going.

Pleasingly, I am already 1.2kg down, although I knew a lot of the weight was bloating.
Am probably not drinking enough water. I too can't manage without the merest splash of skimmed milk in my decaf tea.

I had spinach with eggs and butter zapped in the microwave for breakfast today - absolutely delicious!

My DH is a bit hmm about all the vegetables in the fridge, I went a bit mad at Sainsburys yesterday.

TheGoddessBlossom Tue 03-Jan-12 17:33:59

usual porridge for brekkie, homemade pea and ham soup for lunch (thanks DH) and will have more cold meat and salad for tea. Have finally got to the supermarket today and got stratberries and blue berries so will have them with pumpkin seeds and low fat natural live yog for pud if I am still hungry.

I too need to drink more water.

Beryl, my DH has just opened fridge door and said "Jeezuz are we keeping broccoli farmers in business singlehandedly?" grin

well done on the weight loss so far smile

Today has been rubbish. My stomach was awful this morning (not helped by it being the first day back at work) I couldn't face breakfast early so took porridge with me to work.

I didn't have time to get any water in work, was late getting home and then ds played up so I couldn't get on with making lunch and tea before heading out on the school run. I had iced xmas cake for lunch blush and carrots and houmous for tea as my proper tea is still cooking.

And this is the cycle I struggle with, not having enough time to sort meals properly and resorting to grabbing something on the go. I now have to be careful and avoid the snacking / binging when the dc are in bed (danger time).

if I can fast forward to tomorrow I have some lovely veg cooking in one slow cooker and the other one is cooking my first attempt at soya yoghurt. This should result in live yoghurt so I pressure it will be fine to eat?

Stylelostinlabour Tue 03-Jan-12 20:26:32

I find I have to prepare the day before what I'm going to eat otherwise it would all go to pot and I'd be picking at the kids plates.

Today was:

Porridge with Water
Salmon Filet and steamed veg for lunch
Roast Lamb and Veg for tea

Stuffed now but have been for a run and I'm going to have to have a cup of tea otherwise I'll be horrid...

BerylStreep Wed 04-Jan-12 15:55:57

I had the most delicious lunch today - blt wraps in iceberg lettuce 'wraps'.

Currently in the midst of my afternoon low, so tucking into yoghurt and nuts (I suspect that nuts aren't allowed, but it helps me feel I am having something more substantial).

I struggle with plain porridge, I like it with milk. I have bought some rice milk, but haven't used it yet, want to wait until phase 2 before I try it.

TheGoddessBlossom Wed 04-Jan-12 18:53:31

Went to gym today.

Porridge, meat and salad and cheese for lunch, vegetable bake for tea tonight.

Beryl, I have just had a week's skiing where the chalet host made the porridge with milk and it was divine, I couldn't believe people felt the need to add milk and sugar to it, compared to it with water it was soooooo creamy. But I actually don't mind it with water thankfully. I'd really struggle with brekkie if I couldn't have that.

muttimalzwei Thu 05-Jan-12 20:08:27

have had porridge and skimmed milk
chips from the chippy!
sandwich with low fat cottage cheese
pork veg stir fry for tea, tiny bit of rice
white wine
uh oh!
still 'preparing' for phase one which I am going to do week beginning 16th. Getting caffeine down first.

BerylStreep Thu 05-Jan-12 22:58:16

Tomorrow is last day of phase 1 for me. Can't wait to weigh myself on Sat morning, DH say a he notices a difference already.

Who else is finishing phase 1 tomorrow?

Mutti, just do it, after 2 days of cold turkey without caffeine I was fine, and I used to drink loads of tea and coffee. That was 2 years ago, and I have never really gone back to caffeine - when I have it now I feel awful, really jittery and anxious.

TheGoddessBlossom Fri 06-Jan-12 08:02:27

How much are you hoping to lose overall Beryl?

Stylelostinlabour Fri 06-Jan-12 18:02:17

Well that's phase 1 completed didn't have any side effects and don't crave carbs at all do going to carry on for a bit with phase one.

Weighted in today and I've lost 8lbs this week so that's fantastic for me.

Right off for a run the steak and salad for tea yummy

Here's to another week of good weight loss - only another 30lbs to go...

Hathall Fri 06-Jan-12 20:29:15

I was lurking on this as I planned to do Harcombe as a quick start but didn't get myself organised. I've done it before. I wasn't too strict and had a coffee a day but still lost 6lbs in 1 week.

Stylelostinlabour thats an impressive loss. I'm inspired to do this next week now. Well done.

muttimalzwei Sat 07-Jan-12 09:02:44

That's brilliant Style, well done. Keep it up, you won't regret it.

Stylelostinlabour Sat 07-Jan-12 21:06:16

Thanks - did really well today took kids to pizza hut and not a carb past my lips

BerylStreep Sun 08-Jan-12 11:33:39

Well I weighed myself this morning, down from 96kg to 91.8 over the course of a week.

Goddess, I wanted to lose 16kg (2 1/2 stone) in total, so I'm quarter of the way there already. Thing is I know it slows down after the first couple of weeks, but it's a great start.

Style, well done! It's really gratifying isn't it? It sounds like you have the same amount of weight to lose as I do. I'm impressed you are out running.

Everyone, let's look forward to a good week ahead.

Stylelostinlabour Sun 08-Jan-12 11:49:17

Well after not eating any carbs at all and being reallyt strict I was hoping to lose another lb or so on the scales this morning but it's still the same. I've reintroduced milk in my tea so wondering if that's not helping.

Also the odd cup from my dolce gusto machine of skinny latte...

Well done on the weight loss here's to another great week for us all

eatingdust Sun 08-Jan-12 18:58:40

I'm a big Harcombe fan, but find it very hard to combine with a normal life for any length of time. Phase 2 didn't work for me at all, but I think that's because I didn't have a lot of weight to lose.

After reaching goal weight, if I see my weight creeping up again by a few pounds (like now, after the excesses of Christmas), I go back on it for Phase 1 for a maximum of 5 days, then switch to MyFitnessPal, but try to keep to many of the Harcombe principles - e.g. I avoid processed food, wheat and caffeine (the odd glass of wine is my only vice), and I don't eat carbs after 7pm.

I find the few days of Harcombe deal with my "I want to eat a lot" mindset because I can eat a lot, just of the allowed foods, and by day 5 I've lost my cravings for processed food, so can switch back to calorie counting without feeling deprived or wanting large portions.

Not eating carbs after 7pm is, I find, a very good principle to live by generally as is not snacking between meals and drinking loads of water.

eatingdust Sun 08-Jan-12 19:06:19

Oh - and some menu ideas for Phase 1...

Roast chicken and roast veg, followed a few days later with the chicken leftovers in:

Butternut squash curry made with with coconut milk and chicken

Meat or fish kebabs with veggies like aubergine, courgette and onion

Prawn, fish or chicken paella with wholegrain rice (health food shops sell shortgrain whole rice)..or if you're really feeling Spanish, rabbit and snails ;)

Porridge with water, but with cardomom(sp?) and cinnamon.

Rice cakes with butter for breakfast (I know she doesn't allow dairy in Phase 1, but it works for me, and I was sick of bacon & egg and found porridge and rice cereal tedious too)

Use iceberg lettuce as a "wrap" for a Mexican meal with minced beef - the rest of the family can have taco shells

Stir-fried meat/poultry/fish and veg - the ready-prepared veg is great if you avoid mushrooms.

Stylelostinlabour Sun 08-Jan-12 20:25:04

Hi eatingdust great advice and ideas for meals. Today I had porridge and water and gain I have bloated up even my mother commented! So I think porridge is out for me as well as milk.

Right off for prawn salad for tea and more lovely water, mind my skin after a week looks great I must say.

Can you have soya milk on phase 2?

muttimalzwei Mon 09-Jan-12 22:50:24

I've started phase 1, kind of, as I wasfeeling crap.
Porridge and skimmed milk (I know not allowed but only decided after I'd eaten it)
Lunch carrot and coriander soup - lots
Tea tuna salad
Snack olives
Lots of peppermint tea and fizzy water.
Do not feel hungry at all and bloating already going!

WomanwiththeYellowHat Tue 10-Jan-12 10:34:54

Can I join? I have 1.5 stones to lose but would like it to be Gone for Good this time and not to reappear within 6 months! I amm on Day 3 of Phase 1 and am finnding it fine - had a hideous caffeine crash yesterday but that is a useful lesson in itself and i feel fine today!

My husband is a great fan of Dr Briffa so he is also low carbing which makes it easier. He is fine excpet for an enormous tummy so he know he needs to sort it out and i can definitely see a difference already in him, which is quite inspiring. Love the brown rice allowance - that makes all the difference to me. Did Pig to Twig last year and did lose weight, but felt that gorging on cheese all the time was not really helping and really missed any kind of carbs ata ll, so the rice is just enough to keep me going. I am planning on doing phase 1 through to next Monday (1 week) and seeing how I feel then.

I have an extra motivation as want to TTC 3 this year and have produced huge babies both times, although allegedly withough GD. I have always suspected that I must be on the borderline for it though, so am trying to tackle the problem before it appears IYSWIM.

TheGoddessBlossom Tue 10-Jan-12 13:54:16

Porridge for breakfast with water.

Ran for 40 minutes at the gym.

3 egg, ham and cheese omelette with some baby tomatoes.

last night DH cooked salmon with cabbage and leeks and broccolli with a cheese sauce. Divine.

Thing that suits me most about this way of eating is the fact that I love the food and am never hungry.

BerylStreep Wed 11-Jan-12 00:18:13

Hi Womanwithayellowhat, welcome. smile

Mutti, well done for starting.

Yes, you can have soya milk in phase 2, but I suppose you just need to check it isn't sweetened.

I feel great! Have been doing Dance Star party on the PS3 for exercise, and it's really good fun.

muttimalzwei Wed 11-Jan-12 11:17:13

TheGoddess, well done you sound like you are doing really well. The food is lovely isn't it? Unfortunately after a good day yesterday I ended up eating my kids chips and then eating biscuits this morning. I was very irritable yesterday because of sugar cravings. I think I have to wait until I can do this wholeheartedly. I have earmarked the weekend to start as I am visiting friends and will want wine. So Saturday it is. (excuses, excuses). But I am still eating healthily compared to before I even did this diet.

WomanwiththeYellowHat Wed 11-Jan-12 11:27:25

I am on day 4 now and still going strong! Had lovely prawn and chilli stir fry last night with my brown rice and was genuinely lovely!

Feel thinner so hoping it is working!

BerylStreep Wed 11-Jan-12 16:59:17

Tried having a decaff latte made with rice milk today. It's quite nice, but doesn't froth in the aerocinno. It tastes very sweet though, even though I have checked that there is no added sugar.

Had squid and salad for lunch today, but used the french dressing that came with the salad and I think there was sugar in it - I could really taste it.

Annoyingly I have had the same reading on the scales for 3 days now. I know things can plateau, but really, this quick?

Stylelostinlabour Thu 12-Jan-12 22:29:24


I'm the same nothing lost since losing 9lbs in the first week but going to go back to phase 1 with no milk from sunday again to see if i can kick start again.

Gutting when you are being really good and those digits on the scales don't bloody move!

muttimalzwei Sat 14-Jan-12 09:58:37

Don't worry, keep on doing it and it will happen

BerylStreep Sat 14-Jan-12 16:12:04

Style, I agree with Mutti - don't lose heart. I've edged down slightly, so I have lost 5 kilos (11 lb) in total.

My DH has started today on phase 1.

Our bodies are probably trying to hold on to our fat for dear life!

I'm still sticking to phase 1 rigidly (apart from a splash of milk and some goats cheese) - am too worried about introducing carbs. I am also still managing to keep the exercise up.

We go skiing in 6 weeks, so I'd really like to lose a further 3 kilos by then. Should be achievable.

BerylStreep Sun 15-Jan-12 14:43:32

Well although I thought I had plateaued, I have actually lost 1.2kg since last Sunday, so I'm happy with that.

How has everyone else done?

Stylelostinlabour Sun 15-Jan-12 19:35:23

Rubbish! Living the life of a monk no carbs, wine etc and those dam sackings just don't move - even been out running and drinking loads of water but nothing, maybe need to look at actually eating more as although not hungry when I plot food into myfitnesspal I'm around 1200 call so with the running. Aye it's not enough

I need to lose weight to keep me motivated!

Right new week so hopefully can at least get a couple of pounds off was hoping for a stone in January but will needs to lose another 5lbs very doable if I stick with it

Just made tuna and egg salad for lunch tomorrow and filled the 2l water bottle up but don't know what else to eat?

Stylelostinlabour Sun 15-Jan-12 19:36:25

And well done on losing mor weight Beryl... Not jealous at all ;)

BerylStreep Sun 22-Jan-12 11:52:57

Another 0.8kg off, so 6.2kg in total. I have exceeded my first goal - another 3 kg to the next one. I now have less than 10 kg to go (1 1/2 stone). Yay!

Where is everyone? How have you got on this week?

muttimalzwei Sun 22-Jan-12 21:02:42

I have fallen off the Harcombe wagon. Was doing really well and doing phase 2 (haven't got to phase 1 yet...) and then extreme tiredness kicked in and I found myself eating flapjacks and drinking coffee. Tomorrow is another day.
Beryl that is brilliant. Keep going, you will feel brilliant, if you aren't already x

BerylStreep Mon 23-Jan-12 15:49:35

Mutti - tiredness is a killer. hen my DC were tiny and I wasn't sleeping, I ate to block out the awfulness of it.

As you say, today is another day. Just because you fell off the wagon doesn't mean you can't
climb back on.

I need to stay focused though - skiing in 5 1/2 weeks! Don't want to be a fatty on the slopes.

muttimalzwei Tue 24-Jan-12 22:11:26

Keep going Beryl, you will get at least a stone and a half off by then. Doing badly myself, comfort eating bread and butter. Zoe wouldn't be happy!

BerylStreep Sun 29-Jan-12 14:34:55

Right chaps, I'm feeling lonely here! What are you all up to?

Another 1.2kg this week. Have lost 7.5kg in total so far (16 1/2 pounds) and I feel great.

I tried on my favourite Jaegar jeans yesterday, which I haven't been able to wear for a year and a half. They fit really well grin

Skiing in 5 weeks!

I hope everyone else is doing well, and Mutti I hope you stop comfort eating! Here's looking forward to another good week.

muttimalzwei Thu 02-Feb-12 13:17:08

Glad it's still working for you Beryl! I am still not doing it properly but I will, I will! Keeping the weight off at the moment as so active and cycling everywhere with my new job. But there will come a time when the layers start to come off and I'll need to get back to it properly. Isn't it just a brilliant diet though? I hope you are enjoying it.

BerylStreep Thu 02-Feb-12 17:13:54

Still enjoying it, but my weight has been a bit all over the place this week. I'm not sure if it is because I have been having berries, or I have been having a few decaff lattes - maybe all that milk is too much.

I had a real coffee today, and 3 hours on, I am still buzzing. I'll not do that again!

A job in which you cycle! Sounds intriguing.

muttimalzwei Fri 03-Feb-12 10:43:29

Just work at different locations and I can't drive, that's all!

BerylStreep Sun 05-Feb-12 18:33:40

Another .5kg off. Not as much as previous weeks, but still on a downward trend. smile

4 weeks to go for skiing, and I have 1.2kg to go to my next target.

Tw1nkle Wed 11-Apr-12 18:49:32

Really pleased I've found this thread!

I've been doing The Harcombe Diet since january 16th, and have lost 2 stone so far!!!!

I LOVE IT!!!!!

I feel great, and am looking forward to wearing my bikini on holiday later this year - woohoo!!!

Stylelostinlabour Fri 13-Apr-12 21:17:36

Well done I really should get back onto this to shift the last stone

What is your daily diet like I need ideas!

Tw1nkle Mon 16-Apr-12 15:28:21

I was having shredded Wheat and skimmed milk for brekkie, but now I have omlettes on their own, or with Bacon.

I always have a sald for lunch - I love it - loads of cheese!!!

For the evening meal there is loads to chose from!!!
Shepherds pie topped with carrot & swede mash, not potato.
Lasgne made with courgette strips not pasta
Butternut Squash Curry - devine!!!
Meat & Veg
Fish & Veg
.....I could go on and on.......the recipe book is fantastic!

Jannimay Thu 31-Jan-13 21:20:56

Hi. Have been reading threads on Zoe Harcombe diet. I and DH have been following phase 1 since Monday so thankfully tomorrow is the last day. When I weighed this morning, after wee and before a cuppa, I had lost just over 2kg which was pleasing. We both went back onto proper coffee Wednesday as neither of us could stand the headaches. We will limit our caffeine. I would usually drink about 10 cups of either tea or coffee a day, but I don't want to cut it out totally as caffeine does have some health benefits. I'm not aware I have candida or hyperclycaemia but know I am intolerant to dairy. Can't say I feel any better or any worse. Looking forward to phase 2 but would like roast potatoes with my roast!

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