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i have just made Nigella's old fashioned choc cake for a friend, without licking the spoon or eating a smartie! Am so virtuous.

Am trying to have a good day. We are off to P Exp for lunch so large salad beckons. Haven't even felt tempted to cheat today.

Have a great day everyone.

Morning all! That WW article is really interesting, BIWI. Must admit I thought last night that the one thing I do really miss is not cake or bread or pasta but....apples! The crunch of a lovely cold Braeburn, mmm. One of my fave puddings used to be apple and sharp cheddar, now I just have the cheese I guess...

Btw, that Mercola site has a great interview with the gorgeous Gary Taubes - it's long but worth it.

Am off to ds's Summer (ha!) Fair today - he's playing the djembe drums at 1pm in the middle of the school field . Am going to have a big brunch of eggs and bacon so I don't get tempted by the hot dogs, cake stall and ice-cream van!

Have just noticed on another thread a MNer saying she has to graze through the day otherwise she gets shaky and irritable. I want to tell her that that means her blood glucose is all over the place and if she ate like us she wouldn't feel that way... but I'm worried I'm starting to sound like a crazy evangelist

Me too, tea! In fact I had to stop myself yesterday, as I was posting all over the board and, no doubt, irritating the hell out of everybody some posters

I have also resisted posting on that thread!

Are stock cubes/oxo cubes allowed?

I want to make some savoury mince. Does anyone have a recipe??

Yes they are. An Oxo cube is about 1.2 g of carbs, from memory.

For a recipe, look at this thread for my low carb shepherd's pie

Make that, minus the celeriac mash for the topping - it's really low carb.

Ta BIWI x

I couldn't resist posting on that thread after all ...

Oh, and here is another really interesting article about calories

Just making lamb shanks in my slow cooker for later, will be luffly

interesting how that article said not to use olive oil for cooking but for salads, use coconut oil instead.

just had scrambled egg for lunch

This is where I deviate a bit

I think that there's no one size fits all diet. I think that the vast majority of us and certainly the ones that struggle to lose weight, descend from the hunter gatherers and we do better on protein rich diets. We'd have killed something, eaten until we were full, slept it off and then gone to kill something else.

At some point it's clear that farmers evolved. These people developed the cultivation and processing of grains etc. People descended from them will be better evolved to eat carbs and will probably do better with grazing

No theory behind it and not a chance of a link. It's just my pondering

If it's the thread that I think, I posted about carbs amking me fat and there were several posts that followed about carbs being essential and not eating them madness of the highest order. I responded about low carb vs no carb, but it fell on deaf ears I suspect.

jins is right, there is no one solution that fits all. We all do what works for us in the end.

boeuf bourgignon for me for later....the smell is just flipping gorgeous.

not had a good few days, much puking and comfort eating going on. Maintaining though which is good!

Family weddin last night so a bit of a challenge, 2 small glasses fizz, goats cheese salad, lamb loin with veg and mini shepherds pie( left most o the mash), sticky toffee pudding and a sausage roll and a piece of cake. Thorouly enjoyed every mouthful, no guilt and now keen to boot camp for next 4 weeks until end of term. Very nice experience as got many compliments on how well I looked!

Dr Briffa would agree with you as well, Jins See here There's a questionnaire in there to determine if you're a Hunter, a Gatherer or a Hunter-Gatherer, and he gives specific recommendations for the things you should eat/avoid, depending on what you turn out to be.

Hey!! Maybe I don't talk shit then

I've not read any Briffa. I'm going to have to aren't I?

Any ideas for low-carb drinks, o gurus? DH used to be a big Coke drinker and says water is boring. I suggested strawberry smoothie with yoghurt and water but he wasn't having any - has made a concoction of blended strawberries, lemon juice, water and artificial sweetener. What else can he drink?

<slopes on to thread, admits to having beans on toast for lunch I did go swimming this morn, reason was cos we had Nothing In and DP cooked>

Am v interested in the Briffa theory, it sort of sits with the blood type diet ie some of us are good with meat, others are better vegetarian types.

<slopes back off with tail between legs> <ponders going the whole hog and enjoying a beer tonight with the match>

He shouldn't be drinking that, if he's low carbing, TooImmature! Strawberries and lemon juice will become very carby very quickly.

If he really can't just drink water, then he's going to have to consider artificially sweetened drinks. Personally I think they should be avoided, as with anything artificial - and they do impede weight loss for some people. But he could see for himself if they stop him losing weight. Sainsbury's diet drinks are made with Sucralose which, I believe (but I don't know that much about it) is a 'better' artificial sweetener. Certainly he should avoid aspartame and saccharine.

What about fruit/herbal teas? I don't drink any of these myself, but could they be served as an iced drink? (I'm guessing he's struggling with cold drinks as opposed to tea and coffee)

Turtle a slice of lemon or even cucumber is really refreshing in water.. Also if he absolutely HAS to sweeten his drink, then real unrefined maple syrup or honey would probably be a much better source than sweeteners which will not give his brain a glucose hit and cause him to want more sugar.....

Jins you should read some Briffa. Well-written and very easy to read.

TooImmature What about this? It's really nice - there's one with raspberry as well - and it can be made even lower in carbs if you dilute it half and half with sparkling water

And it's very nice in vodka

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! No honey or maple syrup!

Honey - 76.4g carbs per 100g
Syrup, Maple Flavour - 76.5g carbs per 100g

Definitely out of the question!!!

... and as for thinking about beer ...

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