I've just had a gastric band fitted

(111 Posts)
WikiSpeaksagain Sun 10-Apr-11 13:44:52

(Back after a break)

That's it really - had op on Friday. Home yesterday.

Still can't believe I've done it.

If anyone wants to know more then come and talk to me about it.

Nancy66 Sun 10-Apr-11 16:02:27

Good luck Wiki

so do you really, genuinely feel stuffed after just a couple of tablespoons of food? I can't imagine that!

WikiSpeaksagain Sun 10-Apr-11 16:56:05

Well I think it's too early to tell really. I don't want to 'push' it and risk stretching the pouch or being sick.

I won't bore on about how little I've had to eat, but yes it is pretty minimal without feeling hungry.

Long may it last!

mankymummymoo Sun 10-Apr-11 16:59:00

go on... what have you eaten?

WikiSpeaksagain Sun 10-Apr-11 17:00:51

grin

ramekin sized dish of greek yoghurt
ramekin sized dish of soup (x2)
ramekin sized dish of rice pudding

and it's 5 o'clock and I'm stuffed!

WikiSpeaksagain Sun 10-Apr-11 17:01:42

That doesn't sound terribly healthy but in my defence I can only have 'sloppy food' at this stage.

Do you mind me asking what weight you were/are and what you hope to be? Also did you have it done on the NHS or private and if private how much (roughly) sorry to be nosy don't answer if you don't want to, I have a friend who is considering it. smile

WikiSpeaksagain Sun 10-Apr-11 17:07:09

no fire away - thats why I was posting!

OK I had a BMI of 33 so not MASSIVE. I am 5'8" and was about 15.8 stone. That does sound massive doesn't it, but NHS wouldn't even consider funding unless I was much bigger, so I paid 6k to have it done privately.

There's obvioulsy a big back story involving years of yoyo dieting and losing the same few stone ten times over.

It just got to the point where I wanted a permanent solution.

I look at my MIL (early 60s) and she is always 'on a diet' but never really gets anywhere but is miserable in the process. It hold her back from doing so many things. I knew that would be me in 30 years time.

WikiSpeaksagain Sun 10-Apr-11 17:08:39

Oh and I have no timescale to lose the excess weight.

About 11 stone is right for me (I reached that weight for a split second a few years ago), so it's a good chunk of weight that needs to go.

Thanks smile

I must say well done to you for taking control and changing something you were not happy with. I hope it works well for you.

Nancy66 Sun 10-Apr-11 17:10:36

Actually that really doesn't sound that big at all

is your plan to eventually have the band removed?

WikiSpeaksagain Sun 10-Apr-11 17:13:24

It is big for me though.

I have a long list of things I could no longer do becuase of my weight. It is/was really hindering me. It wasn't even a vanity thing.

No I don't plan to have the band removed. It's a lifelong commitment now. If I had it out I'd over eat and be back to square one. It'd just be like an expensive diet.

MollieO Sun 10-Apr-11 17:16:35

Hope you don't mind me saying so but I'm quite shocked that you've had this done at your size. I'm a little bit taller but weigh the same. Clearly overweight but not (at least I think) not on the gastric band scale.

Of course if it works for you then good. What weight would you have had to be to get it done on the NHS? What dress size are you? I'm mostly a 16 at the moment and would be happier being a size 12.

Good luck.

WikiSpeaksagain Sun 10-Apr-11 17:23:24

I thought long and hard about it. The surgeon talked me through risks/possible benefits and I definitely felt no pressure to go through with it.

I have size 18/20 clothes. My work uniform (NHS) is 22. I don't know what weight I'd have had to get it done on NHS as it was never something I wanted to pursue with such cash strapped PCTs. It was my choice, and not something the country should foot the bill for. They go by BMI I think, and have long waiting lists, so it was never an option.

It was a case of having so much in daily life affected by my weight, and my inability to shift it despite numerous exercise/diet regimes.

chocolatespiders Sun 10-Apr-11 18:27:19

Good for you- i hope you get the results you want... I am roughly the same weight and would consider myself addicted to food, can lose weight if i go without ie Cambridge diet but really struggle to keep it off.

Wouls you say you are addicted to food? if so I would like to keep in touch to see how it goes over the next few weeks to see if the desire goes to eat a lot of food.
ATM i dont know what hunger feels like as i eat do much i dont get hungry sad

ArthurPewty Sun 10-Apr-11 18:32:10

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

TheVisitor Sun 10-Apr-11 18:35:08

My cousin's wife has lost 10 stone after having a band fitted. She looks fabulous. She was considerably heavier than you to start with.

stillbroody Sun 10-Apr-11 18:35:24

How much would a kidney fetch on the black market?
I could probably find this with some intense googling, but how is this going to work nutrition wise?
Supplements?

foreverondiet Sun 10-Apr-11 18:36:20

Does sound quite extreme at a BMI of 33 but if you aren't able to control how much you eat otherwise then good for you for dealing with it in this way.

Did you try hypnotheraphy first? I know of someone who was addicted to crisps and was hypnotised so he now can't eat anything containing potato....

I think the food you've eaten does sounds relatively healthy considering you have to have sloppy food.

My friend had a band and overate so much and it burst.... it was on the NHS though, but £6k is a lot so be careful....

TheMonster Sun 10-Apr-11 18:36:58

What did they say the risks were?

WikiSpeaksagain Sun 10-Apr-11 18:41:30

Yes I think I am addicted to food. I think about it all the time - and yes weight dropped off with Cambridge. I can do the diet, it's just afterwards it all fails. Long term I'll build up to normal food. Pasta and bread is likely to always be a problem. Yes big attention to supplements. I have dietician support and there's support from her about what to expect and how to build up gradually to a more normal lifestyle.

WikiSpeaksagain Sun 10-Apr-11 18:42:41

Yes I did try hypnotherapy. In fact I honestly don't think there's anything diet related I haven't tried!

WikiSpeaksagain Sun 10-Apr-11 18:45:18

The risks the surgeon talked about were about the op itself - general anaesthetic, internal injuries, bleeding, DVT etc and then living with the band - breaking, slipping.... Loads of risks really! He didn't sugar coat it!

I'm very envious.

I've spent the last 9 years trying to loose about 7 stone and never even come close. I don't seem to be able to shift it no matter what i try.

DH thinks the way i look contributes to my depression and has now offered to look into Bupa helping as it seems the NHS can't until i weigh far more.

I'm 5'7" and 17.4 stone.

Please let me know how it goes!

WikiSpeaksagain Sun 10-Apr-11 18:56:23

Yes Im also on citalopram and in my case think weight and depression is all linked. Thing is, I don't think this is an easy way out. It's a permanent one though. Mashed sardines anyone?

Sounds revolting! grin

I've been on Atkins and excersising regularly (4-5 times a week) since Christmas. I've lost 3lb. There is nothing more disheartening so at this point i'm willing to try anything!

Nancy66 Sun 10-Apr-11 19:02:13

well i think nipping it in the bud now when you have a problem but not a life threatening one is sensible - surgery when you truly are obese is far riskier.

Think i'll pass on the sardines though....

WikiSpeaksagain Sun 10-Apr-11 19:05:49

Ha ha. It's like weaning all over again! Yes I wanted to definitely adress it now, and can hopefully reap the benefits whilst in young.

MillsAndDoom Sun 10-Apr-11 19:13:04

Wiki thanks for coming and telling us about it - I am similar height to you and weighed similar a couple of years ago - I shed acouple of stone but its creeping back on again and the 11 stone that I aspire to just seems so impossible to reach.

When will you be totally back to normal recovery wise?

WikiSpeaksagain Sun 10-Apr-11 19:15:47

Well I'm ok physically. Took plasters off today and have ugly wounds but they'll soon heal. Back to work next mon. Eating smaller portions of normal food in about 6 weeks I think

Wiki - I hope you heal quickly. Question - did you try counselling or therapy?

WikiSpeaksagain Sun 10-Apr-11 19:35:30

Yes to counselling. Ideally would have liked cbt but it cost too much. Counselling was nice but didn't really uncover much except I'm greedy!

chocolatespiders Sun 10-Apr-11 19:56:46

where did you have the op? did you research of was it a reccomendation?

AtYourCrucifix Sun 10-Apr-11 20:01:01

watching with interest.

WikiSpeaksagain Sun 10-Apr-11 20:40:42

I won't say where I had the op as I dont want to be seen advertising but pm me if you like? Not a recommendation - just all research. God bless google!

foundwanting Sun 10-Apr-11 20:50:06

Well done to you for taking control of the weight-loss/gain cycle.

Just remember, stay away from McDonalds' milkshakes. My sister (junior doctor) met a woman on her last hospital placement who managed to put on weight after having a gas band fitted by living on the evil things!

AimingForSerenity Sun 10-Apr-11 20:52:13

wiki A friend of mine had this done about a year ago, she has lost the weight she wanted to and looks great. Like you, she was not hugely overweight but it was bothering her a lot

Oddly I'm much larger than this friend but am less upset by it and don't feel ready for that step yet, I've been cutting back on carbs and have lost a stone so far (but have loads more to go. I would certainly consider this when I felt emotionally ready for it.

My friend has not told most people, only a few close friends, as she didn't want to deal with the gossip and questions.

Good luck to you.

WikiSpeaksagain Sun 10-Apr-11 21:58:52

found I can imagine it's easy to cheat the band - but it'd be foolish to come this far (and spend so much) to go and do that.

aiming I have a huge list of reasons as to why I felt I needed to lose this weight - they wouldn't apply to everyone else, so I can completely understand why you wouldn't be upset at your size. There are some amazing looking women out there of all shapes and sizes. If it doesn't bother you then that's great.

Only 3 people know about this in RL - DH and 2 close friends. It was hard not discussing it, but I felt it wasn't open to debate and advice.

So many people would just say 'oh go on a diet/exercise more', but to me it's like telling an alcoholic - oh just order a diet coke at the bar. Sounds easy enough, but just isn't for some reason.

TennisFan Mon 11-Apr-11 12:45:40

Wiki - that sounds great and I am happy for you and I hope it all works out. I am about your size, and was shocked when a friend suggested i had a band fitted.
Although I am big, I never imagined you would be allowed to get it done unless you are massive.

I wish i could lose weight the usual way, its so depressing the way it takes over your life.

All the best, I look forward to hearing how you get on.

WikiSpeaksagain Mon 11-Apr-11 12:49:02

Thank-you. I'd be really offended if anyone suggested it either. My reasons are personal - snoring, can't wear wedding rings, too big to ride my horse... Stuff that no-one else would know. On the one hand I wish it'd never come to this point, but on the other hand I'm glad there's a solution for people like me.

TennisFan Mon 11-Apr-11 13:30:40

WIki - I totally understand your reasons. I would love to go horse riding again, and play decent sport, and go out in my sculling boat (currently gathering dust as i am too fat to fit in it).
Now, I dont know if I should go down your route - I dont really have the money, but I could get it.

I don't want my kids developing any issues with food, from watching me or hearing me saying things.
Was trying a low carb, harcombe diet recently - and then heard my DS saying " oh you're on a diet, again you can't eat that"

WikiSpeaksagain Mon 11-Apr-11 15:14:21

Well truth be told (and I could get completely flamed if i was on AIBU), I used my credit card.

It's the only debt we now have, and can afford to pay it back.

Last year my DH had his eyes lasered and I saw this as a similar 'luxury'. I also wanted to get it done whilst my children were too young to notice.

I have just been out cycling and feeling really good abut the whole thing ATM.

foreverondiet Mon 11-Apr-11 15:26:05

I think its less of a luxury than eyes being lasered. There are health risks of having BMI over 30 and you had tried other avenues etc. No health risks from wearing glasses, its purely cosmetic.

I wonder if you'll save money by eating and buying less food, so maybe in the long term it will be cost neutral.

In terms of the kids knowing about diet. I might get flamed for this but DD(7) and DS1(4) know that I am on a diet. I have explained that crisps, chocolate, sweets, biscuits, cakes, ice cream whilst being yummy are of no nutritional benefit and eating too many can make you overweight and are bad for teeth. (I don't make carb heavy meals for any of us.)

WikiSpeaksagain Mon 11-Apr-11 17:03:47

The thing is though - technically I could remedy my weight problem without surgery, but he could never remedy his own eyesight. Anyway, it was a joint decision and I honestly believe we'll all benefit. I think our foodbills will decrease, along with wine and chocolate!

MillsAndDoom Mon 11-Apr-11 17:11:08

Wiki I think you're really brave for posting about something so personal, as you full well know it is a subject that some rude people are very dismissive of, so it's really interesting and helpful to hear it from someone who has had it done.

MillsAndDoom Mon 11-Apr-11 17:11:54

PS Would really love it if you kept posting regularly about your post op recovery, food re-introduction and of course your weight loss.

WikiSpeaksagain Mon 11-Apr-11 18:20:52

Hopefully any negative nellies won't chose to frequent these boards. I read loads of blogs from other people and found it really helpful reading about their 'journey'. I'm happy to keep posting but at the risk of it getting a bit dull from time to time!

YouaretooniceNOT Mon 11-Apr-11 19:39:02

Before i lost weight on The Cambridge Diet i was desparate and went for my first appt at the hospital with regards to having a band fitted. Prior to this appt i had done lots of research about the gastric band. I was horrified to read and hear in person from the people in the waiting room that the band streches as the over eating is not cured by the band. Thus the weight creeps back on!

I read about a Black American surgeon that performs the procedure in the same way but in the new stomach pouch p[laces a small ball so the stomach never streches ever again. This was trialed and tested and the dieters were the same weight years later. It was the only successful method.

I learned all this in 2001 - has the operation changed OP? thus reducing/eliminating the risk of piling the weight back on via streching?

Good luck and you are brave!
I hope you are your dream weight soon! x

chocolatespiders Mon 11-Apr-11 20:16:40

Youaretonicenot- how much have you lost on the cambridge and have you managed to keep it off

I have been looking at the gastric band hypnosis on amazon, would like the op but dont have the funds so guess this may be worth a try

WikiSpeaksagain Mon 11-Apr-11 20:17:28

Well done for having success on the Cambridge diet. I lost weight quickly and couldn't maintain it. If the band is abused then yes it definitely can slip. I think breakages are rare. The stomach is brought back over the band and stitched there to try and keep it secure. The possibility of regain is always there, but I think if it's kept at it's optimum 'fill' level then you'd have to REALLY be on a self destruct mission to do that.

YouaretooniceNOT Mon 11-Apr-11 21:02:08

Just under 17 stones and kept it off for about 5 years. I put 1 stone on christmas easter etc
i still have 3 shakes a day and i eat a main meal of whatever i want to eat.

YouaretooniceNOT Mon 11-Apr-11 21:03:06

ok thanks for letting me know

i think what you have done is marvellous!!!

please keep writing here

xxx

HowsTheSerenity Tue 12-Apr-11 06:57:52

I have just booked to have mine done next month. I am 170cm tall and have a BMI of 35 and weight 115kg. I have not dropped below 100kg without the aid of dysentary or having my gallbladder out since I was 22.

I am really glad to hear that it is working for you. I know I need to have this done. I know that I too am not the fattest person but I see it as an aid to weight loss not a quick fix.

franke Tue 12-Apr-11 07:29:53

Wiki - this is a really interesting thread, thanks for posting about your experience. One thing that always concerns me about people in your position, is that the underlying issue of food addiction is never addressed. I'm always astonished when reading about people on a similar "journey" to you (usually in a much more advanced and extreme condition to you), how they are just left to get on with it, whereas other kinds of addicts would receive support alongside. I know you said you'd tried counselling before, but do you think revisiting it now would be of any value? I'm not suggesting you do btw, I just wonder what your take on it is.

And good luck smile I think you're brave and strong to have taken control of your future in this way.

WikiSpeaksagain Tue 12-Apr-11 07:55:40

Good luck Serenity - I hope you have an easy time as I have had. PM me if there's anything I can help with.

Franke - yes I absolutely think that CBT would be really useful. Thing is, we can't afford it. (I was quoted £85 per session!) I don't think I have really deep rooted food issues though. I'm just greedy. I like food. I eat it. I never had that feeling of fullness. I don't think I'm a really 'complex case'. I never purged or had massive binges. I ate becuase I likes the taste and often I was bored.

I really like the fact it hasn't got such a 'hold' on me now. Although I know it's early days.

foreverondiet Tue 12-Apr-11 12:24:23

But surely counselling would have been cheaper than surgery?

Repayment of the £6,000 surgery over 3 years even without any interest would be £166 a month, which would cover 2 sessions.

WikiSpeaksagain Tue 12-Apr-11 13:01:01

But I did try counselling without much success. The results of weight loss were more likely to be achieved with a band as opposed to more therapy with potentially no end in sight.

If I tried to think about how much I've spent in the past on diets etc I think it would be much more than expected.

hypnosis
numerous diet clubs/meetings (constant joining fees/membership/weekly meeting fees)
all their literature
books (about diet/eating/recipes/self help)
hypnosis cds
exercise Videos/DVDs
gym membership
counselling
pills
online subsriptions/magazine subscriptions.
Medical bills attributed to being obese - chiropractor/osteopath

Don't forget that the Cambridge diet was costing £55 per week, and wasn't sustainable.

If I could be sure about results with therapy then I'd have gone for it again. But now I felt I needed something that would be with me all the time - with no escape! So as I sit here having had half a jacket and some frozen yoghurt for lunch, I'm too full to have biscuits next to me. (And don't forget I have easter eggs in the vicinity!) I don't want to eat that stuff becuase I'm full. It'd make me sick.

No therapist could police me and my eating habits like a band can.

foreverondiet Wed 13-Apr-11 18:02:22

WikiSpeaksagain Of course, I understand why you had it done, and as I said well done for dealing with your weight. But I was just a bit uncomfortable with you saying didn't have the CBT as you couldn't afford it (when the gastric band clearly cost more), rather from what you said, you didn't have it because you didn't really have the confidence it would give a lasting solution.

And you missed off your list of £££ the cost of the extra food you were eating!

WikiSpeaksagain Wed 13-Apr-11 18:09:05

Yes absolutely. I think also it was the unkown length of time that CBT would take - Also - Would it ever be a lifelong solution? I speak as someone with a 'working' knowledge of CBT and I think it can be really effective.

The people that have done Lighter Life are supposed to get CBT but I have seen a few regainers which put me off that.

It wouldn't take long for the £85 per session to add up either.

I know what you mean though - my response to saying I couldn't afford it probably should have read that I could afford it if it'd defintely work. Ideally I guess I'd have both!

WikiSpeaksagain Thu 14-Apr-11 08:05:41

Just weighed in - 14st 10lb smile

So I started with the pre-op diet on March 25th. Almost 3 weeks ago.

The diet was 2 weeks of 4pts milk and 1 bovril each day. Nothing else. This is supposed to shrink the liver (amongst other things) to reduce the risks of complications during the opersation.

The scars are looking really good. I have 3 x 1cm scars, and 1 of 1". There is some small brusing around each one, but bearing in mind I've had 2 c-sections. This is small fry!

Feel really good ATM.

Have moved fast of sloppy food. I wouldn't eat bread/pasta yet.

Last night for tea I had small tuna steak, cous cous and brocolli (left the hard stalks). Chewed REALLY well, and slowly. Scoop of frozen yoghurt for pudding. Delicious. VERY full though. No other snacks/wine I'd usually have in an evening.

ZhuZhuhell Thu 14-Apr-11 19:39:38

well done on your weight loss. thats really good. i'm glad you are feeling good and full up. hope you keep updating us on your progress.

franke Thu 14-Apr-11 19:57:37

That's fantastic wiki smile. There was a thing about gastric bands on channel4 news the other night that made me think of you. The main thrust of it was that the op costs about 10K on the NHS but this would pay for itself in about 3 years because of the reduction in drugs costs and care required after the band was fitted. They had a bod from some diabetic society (sorry I'm being terribly vague, but it was interesting, honest) who said that more people should have access to the op on the NHS as the medium to long term gains would be so great for both the NHS and the patient.

winedog Thu 14-Apr-11 21:03:52

Hi Wikispeak, It was great to see your post. I was banded in early March. Like you had it done privately as wasn't any where near big enough to have it done on N.H.S. Also believe it was my responsibility for getting this big anyway so wasn't expecting NHs to pay. I am now nearly 6 weeks post band and will get my first fill early May. Unfortunately for me the feeling full phase has passed. I am now eating normal food and finding it hard to keep to the very small amounts recomended. Roll on that first fill!!! I have lost 29lbs, most of that on the pre op diet. Would love to keep in touch. Only husband knows I have had this done, have managed to keep it from the kids (very devious!) It is not something I feel comfortable talking about openly or feel very proud that I have had to resort to this.

WikiSpeaksagain Thu 14-Apr-11 22:05:13

Yes my first fill is in may. Interesting I'm losing that fullness already BUT I am definitely noticing my portion sizes and what I'm putting in my mouth. I've come a long way. So have you - 29lbs is fantastic.

Franke - really interesting. Definitely think it makes sense to get if done sooner rather than later, but nhs are still not great at funding 'prevention' treatments instead of cures.

MeAndPiglet Mon 01-Aug-11 21:42:24

Hello Wiki...wondered how it's all going now that some time has passed? Would love it if you had time to post an update? Thnx

uninspired Tue 02-Aug-11 08:11:31

I would love to hear how you both are doing as well

slipmate Tue 02-Aug-11 08:17:04

yes I would like to know how you arev getting on too as I have considered a band too

smackapacca Thu 12-Jan-12 17:14:53

Hello all - it's Me WikiSpeaks.

I was just re-looking at this thread, and hadn't seen the request for updates as I was having a break from MN.

Well, It's not revolutionary weight loss. It's just slow and steady. I still eat too much chocolate, but portion sizes are much smaller than previously.

I've lost about 2 stone in all.

Having another fill next week.

If I eat the right foods I stay full, but if I eat chocolate and drink wine (funnily enough) it has no problem getting through and is just empty calories really.

TheMouseRanUpTheClock Thu 09-Feb-12 18:22:50

Hello, I have just been reading your thread with interest. Well done with the two stone weight loss.

I have made an appointment to see a consultant to have a gastric band, for the beginning of next month.

smackapacca Sat 11-Feb-12 21:57:02

Hi - you and I spoke a while ago over pms. I think I still had the same username... Can't remember!

I had my band adjusted yesterday. I love it.

2 stone lost in total - very slowly but I don't care. It's not coming back!

smackapacca Sat 11-Feb-12 21:59:19

I missed my original adjustment appointment as my kids were ill so it was later than planned. It does need to be adjusted/monitored carefully.

The dietician gave me some good tips around some of my bad habits. Going back in a month.

TheMouseRanUpTheClock Sun 12-Feb-12 00:28:27

Well done. What did the dietician pick up? I

I have given up in the last week coke and crisps, and I am using up the last of the coffee ready for when I have surgery.

Have you managed ok with the pre surgery diet, the after surgery liquid, sloppy food and then normal food diet?

Do you do anything special to eat slowly and small portions? I was advised to get a small plate and toddler cuttlery.

smackapacca Sun 12-Feb-12 13:57:16

Well - i still love chocolate. I'm surrounded by it at work (hospital) but then I'll often buy more. BIG bars of it.

We worked out that somehow I have made it acceptable to buy a huge bar then eat it on my own (kids in bed or when I'm alone in the car). I choose a massive bar sort of pretending that I'll have some then leave the rest for another time. I never do.

So - she was saying that if I have to finish the bar; if i know I'm going to do it then just get a smaller good bar and polish it off.

It doesn't sound revolutionary written down, but it was good for me. Having said that I'm stuffed since having the adjustment on Friday. I honestly couldn't eat any even if was here.

I must go now. Will write more later.

TheMouseRanUpTheClock Sun 12-Feb-12 14:57:52

I heard that chocolate addition can cause problems with a band.

It's good you feel that the feel full nerve has been adequately restricted, that it is now sending full triggers to the brain for you.

smackapacca Sun 12-Feb-12 15:38:14

I was told from day 1 that a band would not be the magic fix for chocoholics. Problem was - I didn't realise that I ate so much of it blush

In answer to early questions - pre-op diet was fine (4 pints of milk a day), and sloppies afterwards was fine too.

Toddler plate and cutlery? Never heard that, but I guess it would make sense.

My portions are smaller than my 4yo now.

TheMouseRanUpTheClock Sun 12-Feb-12 15:45:28

I only told four people, and one found it hard to believe that you only loose half od the excess weight and not all excess weight, did you have that kind of response? I felt like they were somehow trying to make me feel a failure and were using that as a way to make me feel bad about myself and the procedure.

smackapacca Sun 12-Feb-12 16:34:02

Only 2 friends + DH know.

For that very reason!

It's different for everyone though. Lots of people think it's 'cheating' hmm

I'm happy no-one knows.

smackapacca Sun 12-Feb-12 16:34:38

Actually I don't believe it's only half the excess weight anyway.

TheMouseRanUpTheClock Sun 12-Feb-12 16:38:31

Well one told me his step sister had one and lost loads of weight which was helpful to know about. One has since gone to her gp to ask for one for herself, she is actually going for a bypass as she wants to loose more weight, one was worried for me, and the other was going on about famous public figures who lost all excess weight and being unpleasant really, of all the people that was the one I had to tell as they are looking after the children when I have the operation.

TheMouseRanUpTheClock Sun 12-Feb-12 16:39:03

Don't tell me it is less?

smackapacca Sun 12-Feb-12 17:51:06

No - IME it's more. But 'everyone's' an expert aren't they because Fern Britton and Vanessa Feltz have both got one.

I don't know where 50% would come from. If you're 20 stone and want to lose 10 then do you magically stop at 15? That would mean if you're 30 stone and want to lose 20 stone then you'd stop losing when you actually weighed 20 stone.

Nah. Bollocks.

TheMouseRanUpTheClock Sun 12-Feb-12 18:15:11

That's exactly what I was told would be the loss smack, along with Fern lost all her excess weight.

smackapacca Sun 12-Feb-12 19:00:56

Who told you? The surgeon? I don't think I'd be listening to anyone else really.

TheMouseRanUpTheClock Sun 12-Feb-12 19:26:30

The nurse from the team and the psychologist also discussed that amount, they both also asked me what would I do if i had loose skin left over, it must be on their check list to discuss, did they not discuss this with you?

smackapacca Sun 12-Feb-12 20:09:35

Well I'm 5'8" and I think I weighed 16st when I got it done, so TBF I wasn't really at risk of loose skin. It was always going to be a slow burner like a good old fashioned diet really!

jaquelinehyde Mon 13-Feb-12 11:57:40

Hi ladies just thought I would share this with you here

If you haven't done so already join up and use the forum, the support is great and the information available is everything you need to make a decision.

Post op it is just as helpful, loads of us kid ourselves that the op will be the magic wand and life will be great after it but generally it isn't. Old habits are still there and it is very easy to give into them and kid yourself that you are doing really well and everything will be fine but it wont, the weight will come back on. WLSinfo has loads of people on it private patients, NHS patients, band, sleeve and bypass some have lost hundreds of pounds others are struggling and have only lost a few.

Keep up the good work and stop eating the chocolate grin I am giving up chocolate as of tomorrow for 9 weeks (until I go to see family down south) feel free to join me doing that if you want.

smackapacca Mon 13-Feb-12 19:52:13

Yes I'm on WLS - got brilliant advice on the band before going ahead with it.

My adjustment on Friday has left me full after a small portion. There was loads of chocolate around work today but I was pretty good. I had a few bits but not my normal binge. I was genuinely not craving it - which is good. Giving it up though? Never!

eandz Mon 13-Feb-12 23:34:13

i had mine put in in Aug 2010. I haven't lost any weight. sad

TheMouseRanUpTheClock Tue 14-Feb-12 00:03:07

Why do you think you lost no weight yet?

eandz Tue 14-Feb-12 00:10:11

well, i just haven't.

twice though, i've been overfilled and have had to had aspirations.

also, because before I had my band, I would starve to maintain my weight. (i can't control my eating, I eat healthy; I just can't control my quantities) when I had the band put in (privately) I was told I had to eat three meals a day (whereas normally I ate a moderate meal at the end of the day).

Hopefully, at my next adjustment I'll get more restriction.

TheMouseRanUpTheClock Tue 14-Feb-12 00:17:30

Did you have much to loose in the first place?

jaquelinehyde Tue 14-Feb-12 10:32:58

I think this highlights the main problem with private surgery, sadly it's all about the money and the steps that should be taken before surgery are often not put in place and so the real issues a person with food are never addressed and so set the person being operated on (who is already utterly miserable and desperate for a fix) up for failure sad angry

I had my surgery (sleeve not band) in August, so approximately 6months ago and so far have lost 6stone and I can honestly say that if I had just had surgery it would have never worked, it was all the work that was done for months beforehand that has helped me adjust to a new lifestyle. I have slipped over the last 3-4 weeks and just remained the same and when I look at my food habits it is very clear that I am slipping back into my old ways and cheating the op and it is so easily done. I think we all learn very quickly that the op is no quick fix.

Good luck everyone, lets keep each other updated.

eandz Tue 14-Feb-12 17:28:46

at the time I only had three stones to lose. now i have 3 stone to lose.

toffeetip Tue 14-Feb-12 21:02:57

What does it mean to be overfilled?

shineoncrazydiamante Tue 14-Feb-12 22:13:01

Over filled means that they have pumped the band too full and the restriction around your stomach too tight, so eating anything and keeping it down can become near impossible.

smackapacca Tue 14-Feb-12 22:23:29

I'm stepping back a bit from this thread as life has changed somewhat today and I can't think straight (bereavement).

I would like to just say my private op was nothing but amazing and definitely not a profit making enterprise. I work for the NHS and feel passionate about it, but my experience of private has been all good.

eandz Tue 14-Feb-12 22:35:32

sorry* only two stones to lose before, now three.

jaquelinehyde Tue 14-Feb-12 23:08:45

Smackapacca - so sorry to hear of your loss today, I hope that everything is ok with you, be kind to yourself.

My comment about private surgery comes from knowing many, many, many people who have had wls privately and are now all struggling to lose the weight that should have come off much easier if the original issues had been addressed prior to the op. I speak as someone who had the op on the NHS and I went through 7 months of therapy, councilling sessions, group work sessions, dietician appointments. You name it I had it and it has worked well for me so far, not like most people I know who had the op privately.

I suppose the only pre-condition to private surgery is that you can safely go through the op (succeed at pre op diet etc) and that you have the means to finance the op. On the NHS (and rightly so) the conditions to having the op are much tighter and much more is expected of you, in my experience anyway.

Good luck to everyone, keep up the good work.

TheMouseRanUpTheClock Tue 14-Feb-12 23:32:15

So sorry to hear of your loss.

eandz Wed 15-Feb-12 22:01:49

smacka just read what you wrote. I'm sorry to hear your sad news sad please let us know if there is anything we can do to support you.

smackapacca Thu 16-Feb-12 19:39:34

Thanks all. Had a good chat and cry on bereavement board the other night. Just for clarity it's a friend's toddler who has died. It was completely out of the blue. Really hard to concentrate right now.

As for the band - since my adjustment I feel good. Appetite much reduced so I feel fuller between meals. I was overfilled in the summer (completely my fault for lying about how well I could swallow the given water hmm) It was awful and funny at the same time. I had it done on the Friday, and I couldn't eat anything solid over that weekend. I was 'defilled' on the Monday. I found great support from 'my team'.

Ettiketti Mon 20-Feb-12 06:39:03

I've just found this thread, well done smackapacca and everyone else on going thru with this and having great losses.eandz have you had any advice as to why you're not losing?

I had a bypass, personally, almost 15mths ago. It's totally changed my life and still every day I have people either stunned that I ever weighed 23stone, or gobsmacked at how slim I am now, depending on whether or not they knew me before surgery grin
smackapacca I'm so sorry for your loss, I hope your friends have lots of support.

Allice Sun 26-Feb-12 20:42:39

Have just found this thread.

Just wanted to say hello, I too have a band, I've had it for almost 2 years and have lost 4 and a half stone, still need to loose another couple.
My losses have been quite slow, largely for the same reason as you, chocolate will always go through the band!

I don't regret my decision for 1 minute, was the best thing I ever did. Have gone from 18.7 stone (20 at heaviest) to 13st 11, I'm about 5ft6.

smackapacca Fri 30-Mar-12 23:07:35

Hello again everyone.

I'm back here - ready to chat with any other bandsters (or people thinking about it/or just interested)

I had another fill today.

I just love feeling full despite not really eating.

ASillyPhaseIAmGoingThrough Thu 28-Jun-12 21:04:44

Hi, this thread was linked elsewhere on mn. I am going to be banded next week.

How are you all getting on?

Annabslim Mon 01-Jul-13 12:10:55

Hi I'm booked to have a gastric band on 06/08/13 .....does anyone have any advice or had it done recently and can chat to me about it .please !!!!!l

Concentrateonthegood Sun 28-Jul-13 00:44:56

I had a gastric sleeve in may. Over three stone down. Just want to lose another couple and I think ill be done. Started my journey at over 17 stone although have been as high as almost 20, years ago. Best thing I've ever done. Wasn't much more cost than a band but more of a permanent solution although I believe the new stomach sleeve can also be stretched if you abuse the rules. What it's done for me is to reduce my dependence on medication, joint problems all cleared up and depression seems to have gone. Most people have said to me that I wasn't big enough for such a drastic operation but a lifelong problem for me and with the sleeve, i shouldn't need revision surgery as may be required with bands.

I too wish I could have lost the weight without resorting to the cost and risk of surgery but I had tried and failed for 25 years and was in a circle of self loathing, which made the depression worse, which made the comfort eating worse. My surgeon says this isn't simply an eat less, move more solution. It's complicated! I like myself a little more these days.....

birchykel Sat 03-Aug-13 22:24:11

Wow well done. I would have it done if I could afford it. That's a lot of money. Do u mind me asking if u had to pay for it all at once? Guess u wld have to. Im also addicted to food but no one takes that seriously everyone laughs and says aren't we all. Drives me mad cos I actually am. I think about it all the time, and I plan for when hubby is going out so I can get my biscuits out or choc bar. Its not good. I can't exercise either as had major back surgery three months ago and now im worse than ever with eating crap!

Hope it works for u.x

Poppeto111 Fri 14-Mar-14 21:14:18

Hi I have been for a gastric. Band consultation today did it work for you? I'm 24 and 5ft7 20 stone on thyroxine but feel my only hope is surgery

babybarrister Thu 11-Sep-14 22:10:27

Are those of you who had a band done still happy with it a couple of years on?

banded Fri 26-Sep-14 20:01:48

Hiya

I agree we can be addicted to food and you know what? It's just not fair.

I got a loan out. I've been overfilled and to a and e which was when I didn't really understand that I just needed to sick out the stuck food!!! It's scary but I wouldn't change it for the world.

A few points to touch on.
If your throwing up you are eating to much or too large a bite.
If you are not able to swallow water this is also because you have eaten a large amount and it has become a little stuck.
It is not nice having to bring up your 'mistake' mouthfuls but you DO have to bring it back up. I usually have to lean forward and put my fingers down throat. Not glamorous.

I have to say though these side effects are when people eat too much too quickly. It's our own fault.

You get used to the band and take it for granted then end up in agony because of doing the wrong thing.

May I add 1 in 50 people normally experience slippage which is bad and not what you want.

I have had mine for 11 months and have lost 6.5 stone. I am very happy and would rather not have waited for the nhs!

I would recommend the band but be warned you must must must follow the rules or you risk throwing up and eventually slippage (if your not lucky)

Yes occasionally you need to go toilet to get rid of the food that's stuck but if you follow the rules, don't talk while you eat and just spit out any mouthfuls that feel like they are going to be too much to swallow (sometime a small mouthful can create lots of saliva while chewing and all in all you shouldn't swallow a large mouthful of anything even liquid)

So lastly Don't use hospital group!!!! Rubbish aftercare couldn't believe how bad they were. Go with an obesity surgery specialist don't be taken by the cheaper option please listen you won't regret it.

P's a band will change your life whether you keep it secret or not just do it. You deserve happiness!!

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