Reduced school timetable ... anyone else had to deal with this?

(64 Posts)
NaughtyDolly Wed 06-Mar-13 21:27:05

DS1 has been having behaviour problems at school. He started school in Sept aged 4.1 and since then things have been getting steadily worse. He's rude, disruptive, aggressive and violent to his teacher and the headmaster, although he has been doing well academically.

The school have now brought in a range of professionals to help, both at home and at school. Of course, we have been fully co-operative with all of this, as we are keen to see DS do well and get on at school.

Last week we called a meeting with the headmaster as we had not actually spoken with him about DS at all. This was scheduled for Friday. On Weds we were approached by the class teacher and asked to come in to "discuss what we were going to talk about" on Friday.

We did this, and they told us that since DS's behaviour had gotten so much worse since he has been doing full days, they were considering a reduced timetable for him. The headmaster said "I think probably afternoons". We readily agreed to this.

On Friday, they had drawn up some papers with the reduced timetable on, along with three objectives that DS must meet before he is allowed to proceed to the next milestone, and more time at school.

However, far from being afternoons, the first two weeks consist of Monday, Weds and Fri 9am to 10.45. If he meets his objectives, this will increase by 15 mins, and so on. If DS meets his objectives on target, he won't return to full time school until July.

We were assured by the headmaster that this strategy had worked with other kids, so we agreed to it. They said they would send him some work to do at home that would tie in with what the class are doing, but all that came back with him in his bag were two extra reading books.

The reduced timetable started on Monday, and DS had a bad day, mainly because I made a mistake and told him we could go to the local park, take photos and put them in a scrapbook. I thought it would be a good way to get him looking at nature and writing about things and drawing pics of the things we saw.

The SENCO lady at school told me I should not have done this as it made him uncooperative at school and just want to go home. Lesson learned, I thought I will not tell him of anything we will do during his home time.

However, tonight we were visited by the home school liaison officer, who is helping us to learn new ways of managing his behaviour at home. She informed us that it is in actual fact illegal for DS to leave the house during school hours while he is on the reduced timetable!

I was amazed. No one had told us this during either meeting at the school, and it essentially means that me, DS1 and his little brother, who is 18mths, are under house arrest for all but 5 1/4 hours a week! I can't go shopping, I can't take DS2 to playgroup, I can't visit my sister, I can't even take him out for a walk when he needs some exercise.

If I had known this I would have been much more reluctant to sign off on the reduced timetable. We live in quite a small flat and having two kids alone all day, particularly one with challenging behaviour, is going to be extremely tough. I am feeling daunted and a bit depressed.

Has anyone else had this? I feel like I need a little support from someone in a similar position.

teacher123 Wed 06-Mar-13 21:33:04

I have no experience of this, but if that's true, how come home-schooled children aren't breaking the law?

This all sounds to me like a big sham on the part of the school. How on earth would this strategy work if you worked full time?! And only in school for 5 hours per week?! How is your DS supposed to learn anything like that?

How are his social skills supposed to improve with such slow reintegration into the classroom?

I think a word with the schools governors and the LEA might be in order. I cannot see what educational and social benefit such a strategy will have with such a long timescale. I thought you were going to say - mornings only till Easter then full time after that!

Best of luck

teacher123 Wed 06-Mar-13 21:34:16

Sorry posted too soon!

Best of luck approaching the school, and be confident with what you want to see happen. Are you sure this is the right school for him?

NaughtyDolly Wed 06-Mar-13 21:39:57

I mentioned about home-schooled children actually, as I know that there isn't a legal requirement to have your child educated at all until they are 5, but the home-school liaison lady said that because he has actually started school then he is subject to the law.

It's also true that no one enquired whether I worked at all. As it happens I am a SAHM but I do have a project I am working on from home that will be severely curtailed by this. As I say, it happened on Friday and started on the Monday. It only really hit me over the weekend what a huge impact this will have on our family.

MrsMargoLeadbetter Wed 06-Mar-13 21:45:32

I am no teacher/educational specialist (so maybe not much help) but I question how much less time in school will help him get more used to school.

And house arrest sounds hmm

Worth looking at DfE site for guidence?

Sorry you are going through this.

sparkle9 Wed 06-Mar-13 21:48:39

I'm a teacher and we would never suggest this for behavioural problems. Really it's up to the school to support your child in school. I think you need to speak with the special educational needs team at your local authority. Look on their website.

teacher123 Wed 06-Mar-13 21:48:51

It sounds to me like the school have shifted the goalposts and are just absolving themselves of all responsibility. As a school they have a duty of care to help him. As a teacher l honestly cannot see the benefit to your son of being off school so much. I can see the benefit to them. If your son requires extra help in the classroom to deal with behaviour he needs to be statemented ASAP. If it is deemed he needs support then the funding will be provided for a TA to assist him. (At least this was the system when I was last in state sector 5 years ago).

You do not solve a child's behavioural problems by essentially expelling them, which is what they are doing.

You are desperate to help his behaviour (of course!) so you have agreed to something which is not workable for the next 5 months.

You need help with this, go to governors, go to lea ASAP.

X

sparkle9 Wed 06-Mar-13 21:52:25

Some info - https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDQQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftrustnet.learningtrust.co.uk%2FTrust%2Fforms%2FShared%2520Documents%2FReduced%2520Timetables.doc&ei=Fro3UZrHN4ea1AWtk4DACA&usg=AFQjCNE-Se6_XrgWwkI4hE5qExXaK_1acQ

Note that it says maximum of 6 weeks!!! Although I do not think your young son is suited to this anyway.

EmmaGellerGreen Wed 06-Mar-13 21:54:25

That does sound an odd solution.
Could I suggest posting in Primary Education as there are often teachers around who may have good comments.

EmmaGellerGreen Wed 06-Mar-13 21:54:26

That does sound an odd solution.
Could I suggest posting in Primary Education as there are often teachers around who may have good comments.

Glenshee Wed 06-Mar-13 21:56:20

Where is this? Are you in the UK?

I am surprised you were so agreeable up to now, you must have very low confidence about this right now - seek professional advice outside this school.

NaughtyDolly Wed 06-Mar-13 21:59:17

Thank you so much! I will repost in that section and also read up on the sites suggested.

The home-school lady suggested that we try to make him as bored as possible at home so that he wants to be at school more, but right now this sounds like a living hell!

If you make him bored and trapped in your flat with the prospect of only 15 min more each week you are on a path to creating further behaviour problems. I would be looking at different schools as this one is basically washing its hands of your DS.

lougle Wed 06-Mar-13 22:03:28

You might want to pop over to the SN section. A few people there have been sent down the reduced timetable route.

I think you've been pushed into something you don't understand and I'm not sure the LA would be massively happy.

I suspect that this is because your DS is under compulsory school age.

Did you have any idea that your DS would struggle in this way? What is his behaviour like at home?

ReallyTired Wed 06-Mar-13 22:08:04

"However, tonight we were visited by the home school liaison officer, who is helping us to learn new ways of managing his behaviour at home. She informed us that it is in actual fact illegal for DS to leave the house during school hours while he is on the reduced timetable!"

That is bollox. It is only complusory for your child to go to school after the term that he is five. He is very little and its not unusual for children of his age to do half days because they can't cope. When my son was in reception I knew a little girl who used to go home because she fell asleep on regular basis.

There are home educators who flexi school and they are not under house arrest.

I think that the home-school lady sounds a prat and speaking out her arse.

Has your son seen a paediatrian to rule out any developmental issues. I think you should insist on sending your son full time unless an educational pychologist recommends part time.

pooka Wed 06-Mar-13 22:08:27

This sounds AWFUL and ridiculous abdication of responsibility on the part of school.

With regards to the house arrest I think that is bollocks myself. Some children flexi school, by prior agreement with the school and so attend for reduced hours PURELY in order to spend time being education otherwise at home, at the park, at the local museum or wherever.

Yes, maybe don't tell your ds what you have planned for after school. But no way should you be stuck inside.

pooka Wed 06-Mar-13 22:09:21

X post with reallytired re: flexi-schooling.

NaughtyDolly Wed 06-Mar-13 22:12:49

His behaviour has been tough at home as well, (ironically) particularly when he is bored. He has a need to dominate everything going on. I think being so young starting school has not helped him and I do think we are in need of professional help.

Shocked to read the Learning Trust guidelines on reduced timetables, they bear very little resemblance to what we were given, possibly because he is so young. Think I might well post in the SN section, was in two minds whether to go there in the first place, as a couple of people have suggested we might be looking at Asperger's or similar, although they also said he is too young to make a diagnosis.

TheChaoGoesMu Wed 06-Mar-13 22:16:24

Is there no other school more suited to his needs? That sounds like utter crap and very stressful.

KarenHL Wed 06-Mar-13 22:20:00

It sounds as if the school are trying to get you to flexischool (unfairly, as it doesn't look as if they are being honest about it - or being honest about what work he is expected to do/what they expect you to do). Either they should provide you with adequate resources and support to help him at home, or you could try to homeschool for some of the time he is with you (if you want ideas of things to do, PM me).

A good read about flexischooling and how it should work is this. However, the Government might be making some changes, so don't take it as gospel.

The way the law stands is that a parent is responsible for a child's education. Most parents choose to delegate that to a school. If the school decide that they want you to teach or be responsible for part or all of a day, it would be fair to say that you can do what you want. When flexischooling, some schools have asked that a family stick to the National Curriculum, to make it easier for them. It might be worth speaking to the LA, to see if there is anything they can recommend. Given that the reduction in hours is something the school have requested, is there any way they (LA) could support some 1-2-1 tuition at home? Having said that, they might refuse if your DS does not have a statement. This seems to be a school-led exclusion, and I imagine is really hard for you. But I don't see how they can insist (on a practical level) on you spending set hours at home. What they are asking sounds like a recipe to make you all miserable. If your DS is unhappy and disengaged at school, how is making him unhappy and disengaged at home (by keeping him cooped up and giving him limited work) meant to make school more attractive? The idea that school will magically become more interesting is laughable IMO. Many children unhappy at school will view home as a refuge.

If you were flexischooling, or HEing there would be no restriction on what you do and when you do it (except for days/times in school). I am not suggesting you should homeschool (not everyone wants to!), but it does work well for many families. To be honest, how would the liaison officer know if you did take them out to the park? It could be argued that staying in one room for the whole day is a form of cruelty - even children at school get to go out for breaks or lunch.

Its illegal is it?

So what would happen if you took him to the park?

Would you be arrested for taking your non compulsary school age child to the park?

Its utter crap. I cant give advice on the rest of it. But that woman has told you a load of crap.

I am in N.I and our schooling is different to england. But DD1 is 4.1 and she is only in school 15 hours per week.

lougle Wed 06-Mar-13 22:21:52

He is not too young for anything hmm You are being soundly fobbed off from every angle.

NaughtyDolly Wed 06-Mar-13 22:22:56

This is, believe it or not, quite a sought after school! The only other school within reach is a religious one which would not suit us.

Something else which the home-school lady told us as well: that it is illegal for DS not to be under the care of a dentist and an optitian once he has started school. Is that one true?

Startail Wed 06-Mar-13 22:23:01

He isn't 5, he doesn't legally have to be in school.

I thought the not leaving the house rules were for DCs who had been excluded.

A difficult 4 year old is not going to be any better kept in the house.

Repost on special needs, they are abvery knowledgeable bunch.

ReallyTired Wed 06-Mar-13 22:23:56

"His behaviour has been tough at home as well, (ironically) particularly when he is bored. He has a need to dominate everything going on. I think being so young starting school has not helped him and I do think we are in need of professional help."

It is not normal to be essentially kicked out of reception even for an August born boy. If your son saw a community paediatrian then he/she could rule out any problems like glue ear or speech dificulties. A paediatrain could help you access support groups if at a later date your son is diagnosed with special needs.

Does your son's school have a nursery attached to it. If your son went to a school with a foundation stage unit then he could spend more time in the school nursery and gradually move back into reception. My children's school has a mixed foundation stage unit and the summer born reception boys often spend time in nursery playing and the more advanced nursery children do reception activites.

Has the school actually told you in writing that your son is suspended? Keeping your child inside applies to rowdy teens who have been formally suspended, NOT to four year olds with a reduced timetable. Prehaps citizens' advice bureau can give you advice on appealing against an illegal suspension.

lougle Wed 06-Mar-13 22:24:17

To be honest, I'd go the whole hog:

Refuse to send him part-time. Tell him that if they don't want him there, they need to officially exclude him. If they do so, that is excellent evidence for a Statement of SEN. If they don't, they'll manage.

They cannot just send him home because he is under 5.

Come to the SN board...tell us about your DS. We'll think of things that may help.

ReallyTired Wed 06-Mar-13 22:25:19

"Something else which the home-school lady told us as well: that it is illegal for DS not to be under the care of a dentist and an optitian once he has started school. Is that one true? "

She is truely clueless and sounds about as useless as a chocolate teapot.

lougle Wed 06-Mar-13 22:26:00

"Something else which the home-school lady told us as well: that it is illegal for DS not to be under the care of a dentist and an optitian once he has started school. Is that one true?"

Absolutely hogwash.

Yes, it's ideal or even necessary for dental care at that age. Optician...no. You should have school screening services for eyes. Unless there is a problem, most children don't see an optician that young.

TheChaoGoesMu Wed 06-Mar-13 22:28:29

Re the dentist and optician. Its obviously something that is very desirable. But illegal? No.

TheChaoGoesMu Wed 06-Mar-13 22:30:44

Sounds like she is making it up as she goes along. You have a long journey ahead of you by the sound of it. A swift learning curve on learning your rights and obligations unfortunately.

ReallyTired Wed 06-Mar-13 22:31:24

Do you legally have to see this home-school woman?

I think you are being very badly informed by both the school and the home-school woman who is probably more used to dealing with exclusions. I wonder if there is an organisation which could advise and advocate for you. Have you had any contact with the SENCO at the school?

steppemum Wed 06-Mar-13 22:37:21

I think that the school is avoiding their responsibility here.

If a child has difficulties they are responsible to manage that. it may mean they have to have a 1:1 TA for the child, and that would mean getting them statemented etc.

You need to find out if your child is being excluded. If this arrangement is basically an exclusion, then it is a massive 'punishment' against your child which will stay on their record. I would then write to the school and say that that was not clear and you withdraw your agreement to the arrangement.

In fact I think I would ask for a meeting with the head and say that you are not prepared to proceed with this arrangement and after some thought, you want to discuss it.

You need support. Our local council has a parent support person (can't remember what it is called) who is specifically for the parents and knows the rules. Get someone who knows the system on your side.

bookbird Wed 06-Mar-13 22:39:47

My DS was put on a reduced timetable for two weeks last year. It's totally unworkable and we fed that back to the school which they accepted and he went back full-time.

School did think he needed "a mental break" during the school day, so we bring him home for lunch twice a week. That has been in place for over a year now and is working for us.

duchesse Wed 06-Mar-13 22:42:17

OP, I am speechless. There's no chance you might have misunderstood anything they've told you is there? Your child is not even legal school age yet! You would be perfectly in your rights to withdraw him from school entirely and not even countenance taking him back until the start of next academic year. The SENCO is barking- of course you are allowed to take him out of the house and do fun things!!! Jeez, as though living under house arrest would actually improve the situation! I'm off to read the thread now but sincerely I believe the school it talking absolute shite if that's what they're saying.

NaughtyDolly Wed 06-Mar-13 22:49:49

The head was under great pains to stress to us that it wasn't a suspension. Well, he said "this is not us saying we don't want him here" so I don't think he is down as a suspension.

This was billed to us as something quite normal that they had done before and that had worked.

Oh dear, this is seeming like a horrible can of worms now. I am going to have to do a lot of research and make some phonecalls in the morning.

mummytime Wed 06-Mar-13 23:01:16

If you are in England then look up your local parent partnership.

I would also ask carefully about the Home School Liaison's qualifications, as at least some of what she has said is rubbish.

I would also go to see your GP and get a referral to a paediatrician. It can't harm, and starting to get a diagnosis will help if you need one. Of course you can get a diagnosis at 4, the earlier the better for ASD.

NaughtyDolly Wed 06-Mar-13 23:09:52

The home-school liaison gave us her card, she is a family psychotherapist if that helps? Come to think of it, it was also her who told us he was too young to be diagnosed with Asperger's.

The school doctor is supposed to be meeting with us soon, would he be a paediatrician? I only ask because my GP surgery has the WORST system in the world called Open Surgery where you have to wait for two hours in a waiting room full of ill people for a slot to see your doctor and when I have done it before DS has been epically horrendous.

I think you need an educational psychologist or child psychologist/psychiatrist rather than a family psychotherapist. Psychotherapy can mean many things and may not be the right "school of psychology" for your needs. If she is working as a school/home liaison officer then she is not actually working as a family psychotherapist (though her background qualifications may be relevant). The school doctor is likely to be a local GP I think, rather than a paediatrician.

tethersend Wed 06-Mar-13 23:36:07

(Have also posted on your other thread)

The school cannot have it both ways- either he is of compulsory school age and is entitled to a full time education which they have to provide, or he isn't and you can go out whenever you bloody like.

Part time timetables should only ever be used as a last resort and as part of a reintegration programme. I think you should speak to the exclusions officer at the LEA, as it sounds as if this could indeed be an illegal exclusion.

Is he on a Pastoral Support Plan (PSP)?

Have the school completed an SA1 (statement request) form?

MerryMingeWhingesAgain Wed 06-Mar-13 23:39:52

No going out only applies during the first 5 days of an exclusion

You have been misled

Sounds like an illegal exclusion to me, do get further advice on this.

mummytime Wed 06-Mar-13 23:44:21

You don't even have to take him to the GP to request a referral, just go yourself and explain his challenging behaviour. However if your GP is pants, I would suggest looking for a new one,mas you will probably see a lot of them over the next few years (school age kids often need to be checked for things etc.).

Dysgu Wed 06-Mar-13 23:52:10

As a teacher, I second getting in touch with your local Parent Partnership - it sounds like you have a bit of a battle on your hands and it will be useful to have someone sitting with you who knows the rules and can explain anything to you.

Also, re getting referral to paediatrician - what is your Health Visitor like? When i needed to get a referral (back) to consultant, mine was able to jump me up the ladder without having to wait for GP appointment. Might be worth a try rather than a difficult wait in the surgery.

OR can you ask for a telephone consultation with your GP - our clinic pushes these a lot for people who do not really need to be examined physically.

OR can you arrange for someone to look after both DC and go to see the GP yourself to discuss things without DS - at least initially? This might then prompt a referral or at least something other than a 2 hour wait.

Good luck.

princesssmartypantss Thu 07-Mar-13 04:29:34

there are far better informed posters on here but my initial reaction was that i didn't think he had to be at school until he was five, i also think from reading the thread that you have been given a lot of confusing and probably incorrect information. i agree with others that you should seek advice from local education authority. i have a friend who before she retired worked in a lea looking after children who had been excluded and getting them into new schools. pm me if you want me to ask her advice.

akaemmafrost Thu 07-Mar-13 06:56:41

You don't have to do ANY of this. I am absolutely shock at the information you've been given.

If I were you (and I kind of was around 5 years ago when my ds started school, very similar situation) I would get him to the GP pronto and perhaps ask for some help with his behavioural issues and a developmental assessment. in our area we have a child development team that does this.

Then I'd tell the school he's not coming back till after he's 5.

I can see that they are maybe trying to ease him into school rather than go the whole hog immediately and on the surface that's a good plan. However the way they are trying to implement it, the timing etc are clearly unworkable and it cannot continue.

As for this liaison woman shock well words fail me (almost ) the advice and information she has given you is absolute nonsense! I'd laugh in her face if she said all that to me. She sounds completely clueless.

I think you and your ds are being completely failed by everyone involved here. Like another poster said come over to the SN Board and have a chat about your ds.

My advice would be to contact parent partnership for your area, look at the council website - its free and confidential.
Also try your inclusions officer, also local authority website.
Then post in sen.
Good luck.

NaughtyDolly Thu 07-Mar-13 07:56:24

Thank you. I have just found the number for my local Parent Partnership, I'll give them a ring this morning. DH doesn't work on Fridays so that will also make going to the GP a bit easier if I have no joy with the Health Visitor today.

Feeling much clearer and much more empowered with knowledge today. Thank you all so so much.

Doyouthinktheysaurus Thu 07-Mar-13 08:11:34

All that I can add is ask the home School liaison woman to put what she said to you in writing! I bet she won't......sounds like absolute bollocks to me and I know little about SEN! By putting it in writing she is totally accountable and can't claim it to be a misunderstanding, but what it might do is make her think twice about the crap she is spouting.

It's dangerous that she isgoing around under the guise of being a professional and giving such shit advice!

I hope you get things sorted op.

NaughtyDolly Thu 07-Mar-13 08:38:46

I have just spoken to the headmaster, who said he didn't know whether or not it was illegal to take him out of the house during school hours, but that I should just trust the HS liaison worker.

He reiterated my mistake with DS on Monday, my telling him we would be going to do things in the park, and said it had been disruptive to other kids in the class. He said that I should be making things as boring as possible for DS at home so that he will want to come to school and that he will be giving me some school work on Friday that should help pass the time.

He told me that there were truant officers around in the town who would probably stop me if they saw me with a school age kid.

I told him I was intending to get DS a developmental check and he said that the school doctor will help with that.

Definitely getting the feeling I am being fobbed off now. If they suspect special needs then surely boring him at home won't change the problem? I feel as though I am being blamed now for my mistake and that this is being used as a scapegoat.

Going to give Parent Partnership a call at 9am.

akaemmafrost Thu 07-Mar-13 08:43:57

God they sound useless!

When I was having issues with my ds - he was later diagnosed with autism, I asked the Educational Psychologist if we were making things to fun for him at home (in my defence I was at my wits end) and she said "absolutely not! It doesn't work like that".

Please do NOT sit around the house with ds, it will make NO difference whatsoever to his willingness to settle in school. IMO he's too young to make that connection anyway. It's NOT illegal to go out and quite honestly I would write off any information that woman has given you at best she's utterly clueless at worst she's trying to frighten you. Whereabouts are you? PM me if you prefer, if you're near me I could give you some practical advice and contacts.

NaughtyDolly Thu 07-Mar-13 08:53:50

Thank you, will PM you with my location.

I have to go out today to get some food shopping and I am bloody well going to take DS with me. No way can I wait until after school hours, it's just not practical and the walk will do him good.

mummytime Thu 07-Mar-13 09:02:55

If you are stopped by a "truant officer" what the heck does he think will happen?
"Excuse me Ma'am why isn't your son in school?"
"Because the school have reduced his hours to part-time because of his behaviour."
"Which school Ma'am, I'll just check."

Then we know who will get into trouble, not you the school. They can't deny they have done this, but it will also prove to outside bodies that they are not taking the correct steps to help your son. By taking your son out you are educating him, going to the shops is very educational.

The whole reason that part-time schooling like this is not a good idea is because for lots of children, especially those who are "struggling" at school, being at home is obviously much more pleasant. It is quieter, more 1 to 1 attention, more self led in their activities. You can also get all the learning done in a much shorter amount of time (just look at the HE boards for that).

tethersend Thu 07-Mar-13 09:07:41

(Reposted from your other thread)

"I have just spoken to the headmaster, who said he didn't know whether or not it was illegal to take him out of the house during school hours, but that I should just trust the HS liaison worker."

Don't trust the HS liaison officer, I'm surprised she can find her arse in the dark with both hands.

I am an advisory teacher, and I am telling you that you can go where you like. I hope you do bump into a truanting officer- they will be very interested to know that your son is not in school due to an illegal exclusion ( which is exactly what the part time timetable seems to be).

Please don't follow their advice and make home boring in order to make school seem good; it's appalling. If they want him to enjoy school, perhaps they should offer him some enjoyable activities. They control what happens at school (and they're not doing that very well), YOU control what happens at home. Explain to them that if they refuse to educate your child, you will take him wherever you wish, particularly as he is below school age.

I would contact the LEA exclusions officer now, under the guise of asking what alternative education will be put in place when your son is not allowed to come to school. I think you will then find things move very, very quickly.

duchesse Thu 07-Mar-13 09:09:06

Dolly, he is not even school aged yet. Don't worry. If you are stopped by a truant officer (ha!) just tell them his age and they'll leave you alone. HT is hiding behind psychologist lady. If they want you to make his life as boring as possible - to the extent of not even going to the park for pete's sake!- so that he finds school fun then that doesn't say much about the school frankly. Is there another school you can consider for him?

akaemmafrost Thu 07-Mar-13 09:49:13

"Don't trust the HS liaison officer, I'm surprised she can find her arse in the dark with both hands."

^^ this and I couldn't have put it better myself grin.

akaemmafrost Thu 07-Mar-13 09:50:12

Oh and I have a big tall 10 year old ds, who I HE as he cannot manage in school and I have never been stopped once by a truant officer do they exist? and we are out and about all day every day.

NaughtyDolly Thu 07-Mar-13 10:56:29

Getting nowhere with Parent Partnership, seems that there is no one there. Is there any suggestions as to who else I could call?

akaemmafrost Thu 07-Mar-13 11:00:43

Honestly? I'd be phoning the HT and the incompetent EWO to request that everything they are advising be put in writing.

tethersend Thu 07-Mar-13 11:02:01

Have PMed you some numbers, Dolly.

DeWe Thu 07-Mar-13 11:27:31

In all honesty I think that approach would have helped my ds settle better at school in reception. But that's because he has hearing problems, so was sturggling with the noise, and by lunch time was totally exhausted and that's when the problems usually started. So I don't think it's dreadful for the school to suggest that. My ds would have been fine on mornings only.

However suggesting that he can't go outside is ridiculous. When children started part time that wasn't the case at all, and this is no different.
Ignore her.

tethersend Thu 07-Mar-13 11:35:16

Part time timetables are not illegal in the case you describe, DeWe; quite the opposite, they can be very a helpful tool in the (re)integration of children with medical or social needs. However, this is not how the timetable is being used here, as the child is having to 'earn back' his full time education, which is an absolute disgrace.

Glenshee Fri 08-Mar-13 22:42:14

Breaking NEWS: Truant officer meets a 4 year old boy on the street grin grin grin

Glenshee Fri 08-Mar-13 22:44:25

You can really see how it would make it to all the papers, don't you? With a follow-up next week about irresponsible mother who failed to make her child sufficiently bored at home grin grin grin

mumeeee Fri 08-Mar-13 23:57:23

OP that home school liasing officer really does not know what she is talking about. It is not illegal to take a 4 year old out when he is not at school during school hours,he is not of compulsary school age. It is also not illegal for him not to be under a dentist or optition that is completly up to you and nothing to do with anyone else. He is also not to young to be diagnosed with Apergers, My friend has a 11 year old daughterwwho has Aspergers and she was under going tests for Aspergers at 3 years old. I also agre with other posters get in touch with parent partenership/ The headmaster also does not seem to know what h is talking about. A truant officer wouldn't stop a parent with a 4 year old child.

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