If your child was a bum-shuffler...

(88 Posts)
artifarti Thu 31-Jan-13 13:27:14

DS2 has turned out to be a bum-shuffler and very good at it he is too! His Dad was a bum-shuffler too so maybe it's genetic. DS1 was a textbook crawler and so this is all new to me. So if you had a bum-shuffler, I was wondering:

Did yours bother with crawling at all? DS2 hates being on his back or tummy (except to sleep) so I can't see it happening any time soon.
Everyone tells me that he will be a late walker - was this true for you?
How do they start negotiating steps etc?
Did it signify any problems (my HV has been giving us dark looks as DS2 doesn't seem to use his hands much which is 'unusual'.)

BabyRoger Thu 31-Jan-13 13:35:55

Hello!

My DD was a bum shuffler. She was super fast and used to use her hands to kind of propel her along! She also would not stand for being put on her tummy, no matter how much I persevered.

She never crawled and she walked when she was 16.5 months so I guess that is quite late but I think the average is about 15 months so it's not that unusual.

She had no problems whatsoever. She was referred to a paed because at 12 months she was not weight bearing at all. If you tried to stand her on her legs she would just lift them like a frog! Obviously she stood up and walked about one week before her appointment! The paed checked her over since we were there and she was absolutely fine. He told me bum shuffling is not a sign of a problem.

She stood up and walked all in about a 2 week period. When she did walk she was very sturdy - there wasn't much falling or instability. Whereas some of my friends crawling kids took longer to walk - DD literally stood up and walked. I think she just liked to look and take it all in and then one day decided to do it herself!

She is now 3.5 and is running, skipping, jumping etc.

I have an 8 month old DS who has been crawling since 6 months - I am not used to a crawler!

BabyRoger Thu 31-Jan-13 13:37:27

I mean my friends kids walked sooner but they seemed to take longer to get to the sturdiness that DD had very quickly.

Labootin Thu 31-Jan-13 13:38:02

Ds crab crawled (which is BAD apparently due to left right meridian things .. I lost the will to live when an overexcited HV who'd googled it once excitedly explained)

he's fine walked at 11 months (and is a brilliant sportsman played for his county) He is dyslexic though... No idea if that's linked BTW.

DeWe Thu 31-Jan-13 14:11:30

I was told that on average bum shufflers walk 6 months later than crawlers. It's not a sign of a problem, just that they have less need to walk as they can see better and hold things in their hands already, so they have less need to.

I have been told there is a link between not crawling and dyslexia. However I think it is thought to be not cause and effect, more that they are both side effects of the same brain wiring. Like dyslexia and ambidexterity are also linked.

MustafaCake Thu 31-Jan-13 14:26:29

DS1 was a bum shuffler and walked at 14 months. He never showed any interest in climbing stairs till he could walk up them himself which was excellent - we never had to bother with stairgates!

He's 5 now and has always been a very cautious child and not very physical. Until he hit 5 and a half and started running round like a loon and climbing everything.

DS2 is a bum shuffler and is walking at 12 months (he was born 5 weeks prem). He climbs anything he can including stairs, slides, ladders etc!

No evidence of bum shuffling causing either of them any problems!

ajandjjmum Thu 31-Jan-13 14:34:33

DS was a bum shuffler and walked at 17 months.

hazeyjane Thu 31-Jan-13 15:08:23

dd2 was a bumshuffler, she had overstretchy ligaments in her ankles, she walked at 21 months, she saw a physio at 18 months. She has had no problems since (5 now)

KatherineKrupnik Thu 31-Jan-13 15:09:55

my mum was a bum shuffler - she didn't walk till 22 months shock she is now a hale & hearty 60 year old who goes on month long trekking holidays in Nepal etc. So I don't think it had long term effects.

DawnOfTheDee Thu 31-Jan-13 15:15:58

A relative of mine was a bum shuffler. They did walk quite late (almost 2yo) and now (5yo) dyspraxia is suspected. As DeWe mentioned bum shuffling can be a 'symptom' of dyslexia/dyspraxia but certainly not in all or even most cases.

Startail Thu 31-Jan-13 15:29:07

DD1 bum shuffled and then crawled just before she learnt to walk.
She is also dyslexic as am I. I'm told I never crawled.
Also the second she learnt to crawl DD1 learnt to climb, very safely and utterly compulsively. No lack of coordination at all.

Weird she's not very sporty and can't catch, but rides a bike swims like a fish and spent the first 9 years of her life with her feet off the ground.

We worked our days round parks, soft plays, gym tots and climbable trees or else the furniture was used instead.

Startail Thu 31-Jan-13 15:31:33

DSIS and DD2 both crawled very well and they are neither of them dyslexic in the slightest.

However, please remember "one person's experience isn't data".

FreyaKItty Thu 31-Jan-13 15:36:48

Ds was a bum shuffler. He started walking as he turned one. I noticed that he stopped shuffling and walked all the time so was very sturdy very quickly. He hardly ever shuffles. He's 14 months now.

Exactly the same as babyroger

Bum shuffled at incredible speed until about 14.5 months, bit of cruising, but not much, then in the space of a week, full on running.

She has not stopped since (19m).

I spent ages agonising that is was a sign that something was amiss and then spent ages lamenting my lovely peaceful life when I did not have to rescue DD from certain death about every 5 mins.

FreyaKItty Thu 31-Jan-13 15:42:59

Ds was a bum shuffler, using one hand on ground (and one in air). . He started walking as he turned one. I noticed that he stopped shuffling and walked all the time so was very sturdy very quickly. He's 14 months now and hardly ever shuffles. He never really crawled (apart from once or twice through a play tunnel)

DD3 and DD4 were both bum- shufflers and walked at 16 and 15 mths respectively. Absolutely no other developmental delay, dyslexia etc and no difference in later outcomes to my other 2 DCs who crawled and then walked at 10 and 12 mths.

I think both methods are part of normal physical development - as parents we just get a bit more concerned with bum-shufflers, (and fed-up of carrying them around!)

Biscuitsneeded Thu 31-Jan-13 22:44:39

Ds 1 bum-shuffled, extremely efficiently. He then walked, again extremely efficiently, at 14 months. No staggering or waddling about - just straight to a very steady and mature walk. He talked late-ish but again, when he did it was full sentences full of long words. Sat on a bike on his 4th birthday and rode it instantly with no stabilisers. He's nearly 8 now, very good at sport and dance, quite graceful, very articulate, not dyslexic. DS 2 crawled the normal way, but is hypermobile and walked very late. At 6 he is still very unco-ordinated, can't really ride a bike, can't catch, falls over things, can't/won't follow instructions and can't decide which hand he writes with (although he is gorgeous in lots of ways despite all that). I know which one is going to find life harder!

PoppyWearer Thu 31-Jan-13 22:56:27

DC1 was a bum-shuffler!

She started walking at 16.5mo, which seemed late as she had been cruising for months by then.

She's had no problems.

DC2 was crawling at 8mo, walking at 12mo and a total shock to my system!

PoppyWearer Thu 31-Jan-13 22:58:02

Agree with previous poster that my DC1 was stable on her feet immediately she began walking at 16.5mo.

Whereas DC2, crawler/earlier walker took much longer to be stable.

tethersend Thu 31-Jan-13 23:04:59

DD1 bumshuffled until 20 months when she got up and walked across the room grin

DD1 bum shuffled. Never once crawled and wouldn't bear weight till 15 months. Walked at 19 months. Absolutely no problems at all smile

lolalotta Fri 01-Feb-13 06:08:36

My DD was a bum shuffler and walked at 18 months... grin

Nancyclancy Fri 01-Feb-13 13:05:26

My dd is almost 21 months old. She is a bum shuffler with one hand on the floor and the other in the air. She bum shuffles just as fast going backwards and sideways.

She didn't actually start shuffling until she was 17 months, she never rolled from back to front until she was 16 months.
Lots of younger babies we know have overtaken her now sad

She's had lots of tests, seen paediatricians, physio who have all said there is nothing wrong with her. If I stand her up she can stand perfectly for ages.

BUT in the last 2/3 weeks she's learnt to crawl which seems to be rare for a shuffler and suddenly she's started pulling herself up onto her knees so I'm hoping this is the start. She could never get herself into a sitting position from laying down either but since the crawling has started she rolls onto her front, onto all fours and pushes back into sitting.

I still don't think she'll be walking much before she's 2, but she is definitely learning more things quite quickly.

Nancyclancy Fri 01-Feb-13 13:09:54

Her fine motor skills are superb though and she's full of chitter chatter! She's trying to dress herself too but that's proving quite difficult as she doesn't get off her bum!

Newyearoldmum Fri 01-Feb-13 13:32:24

My dd is nearly 17 months. Didn't even bum shuffle til she was a year, then started crawling about 14 months and is now doing a weird combination of crawling, bum shuffling and knee walking. She'll take a few steps if you're holding onto her or use her a frame walker but gets bored of it really quickly because she knows she'll get where she wants to go quicker by crawling. Apparently my husband was the same so it could be genetic.

As for problems I remember being told in a baby class oh you need to get her crawling cause they've linked not crawling in the first year or so to dyslexia - cue one very upset first time mum. I was breaking my heart to a friend about how I felt like a bad mum cause I couldn't get my baby to crawl and she was going to end up dyslexic and it would be all my fault. Cue her reminding me that she and all her siblings were dyslexic and all crawled like demons from a young age.

Think it's more of a case that some children who are dyslexic have been found not to have crawled as apposed to all babies who don't crawl will be dyslexic ifyswim - as many mothers have said above.

One helpful HV said to me that all babies are different in terms of development and that for the vast majority of children by the time they get to 3 and see them all running about creating havoc you won't know or care who walked, talked, drew their first Monet first. Hth.

Halfcups Fri 01-Feb-13 13:51:14

My son bum shuffled without using his hands! Just pulled legs from side to side like he was skiing. Looked so odd. In the park people would come up to ask if he was ok!?! He did nt walk til 17 months. Now he's six years old and does nt sit still.....ah I long for those days.....

Hersetta Fri 01-Feb-13 14:01:24

My DS is a shuffler and was 18 months old 5 days ago. He is nowhere near walking - not even standing by himself. We took him to the HV on Wednesday and she gave him a good check over and pronounced him to be ....lazy!

She said she can get anywhere he wants perfectly well so there is just no need for him to walk. She has never crawled and moans like mad if you dare to stand him up (against the footstool for example). DD has been told to stop doing so much for him - she's 5 and thinks the sun shines out of his bottom so this is proving hard for her. I sometimes feel like he's never going to walk but I guess you never see a 4 yr old who's not walking so I guess he's just on his own schedule. Wish he'd hurry up with it though...he is so dam heavy to carry around!

bluemintygel Fri 01-Feb-13 14:08:41

My bum shuffler walked at 12 months old, and she's now a perfectly normal 5 year old.

VenusRising Fri 01-Feb-13 14:13:58

I wonder is there a link with dyslexia and bum shuffling?
My DD was an early walker, but she bum shuffled and scooted until 11 months, then just stood up and walked very robustly.

Now I notice she's not as fluent at reading as the others in her class.
What's the meridian theory? <Too afraid of dr google>

Anja1Cam Fri 01-Feb-13 14:16:46

Another bum-shuffler here. She was not interested in getting up, hands were free and everything was in easy reach. She was very efficient with it too - people used to burst out laughing when she zoomed across the room. At around 18 months she got up and walked, in a fairly quick transition.
She never crawled and never rolled over by herself as a baby either.
I honestly can't remember about stairs, but I think they came with walking.

No developmental problems, perfectly normal 8-year old now. I was never particularly concerned nor were the HVs

artifarti Fri 01-Feb-13 14:20:55

Wow, so many bum-shufflers! smile I have to say it doesn't worry me, perhaps because I know DP did it too and has turned out reasonably okay. Funnily enough, DS1 was a demon crawler at 7.5 months but didn't bother to walk until 14 months; he never pulled up, just stood up one day, wobbled a bit, and set off.

It's very cute to watch, especially as you can hear him coming from a mile away and then suddenly see his little face peering around the corner at you.

LadyBigtoes Fri 01-Feb-13 14:25:46

2 bum-shufflers here (they also both liked to get around by rolling!). DS walked at 13 months, DD at 14 months, and neither of them ever learned to crawl until after learning to walk.

DS now 7 has quite a few other difficulties, probs with riding a bike, swimming etc, and is dyslexic. However DD though much younger is very different, very co-ordinated and skilled with her hands.

I remember worrying so much about DS not crawling! With DD I just let it go.

Maryz Fri 01-Feb-13 14:26:15

We had to teach dd to crawl after she had learned to walk (which she didn't do until 20 months).

She had a lot of difficulty with stairs, as she wouldn't crawl up them, so couldn't manage stairs on her own for ages. In the end we had to actively teach her to crawl so she could get up and down hmm.

She was a great floor-polisher though.

She also talked really, really early - talking at 18 months, lots of sentences with verbs and adjectives by 2. My mum used to say that she was sitting thinking, instead of running around like a headless chicken like my boys who both crawled and then walked at about 10 months.

LadyBigtoes Fri 01-Feb-13 14:28:40

Oh yes both mine talk non-stop and always have. I'm liking the "sitting and thinking" hypothesis!

Wigeon Fri 01-Feb-13 14:29:46

DD1 was a bum-shuffler. She did occasionally crawl, but not very often. She walked a week before she was 18 months, and was also very late to bear weight on her legs. GP says she has mildly hyper mobile joints (like her mother smile). She certainly has extremely flat feet (like her mother). So far no problems, although I will keep an eye on it because she is extremely flexible - she's still only 20 months.

melodyangel Fri 01-Feb-13 14:43:10

Both me and my DB were bum shufflers. I walked at 12 months he waited until he was almost two. He's the clever one btw so I really wouldn't worry.

Both my DS's have been crawlers but both started off crawling backwards. grin

insanityscratching Fri 01-Feb-13 16:04:13

Dd was a bum shuffler, incredibly efficient and fast and kept both hands free. She walked at 18 months, never crawled and within a week she was running, climbing and going up and downstairs as well as her cousin who had started walking six months earlier. Dd talked very early and had great fine motor skills, I think because she always had her hands free so could manipulate toys and jigsaws rather than using them for getting about. She is very intelligent and has sailed through school so no dyslexia or any other problems.

NZmummy1 Thu 02-Jan-14 22:23:10

My DS started bottom shuffling at about 10 months I have been told so much stuff about the importance of crawling and how I should be forcing him to crawl and have felt like I have done him a disservice because he doesn't/won't crawl. But following a lecture from my SIL about how he won't be able to read or write at school because he hasn't crawled I researched the matter myself and have found that she and other 'well meaning advice givers' are actually misinformed. It is not the absence of crawling that may cause learning difficulties later in life it is the non-integration of the 'symetrical tonic neck reflex' crawling is just one effective way of integrating this reflex. It does not mean that this reflex cannot be integrated in other ways or at a later age which is why even if your LO is a bottom shuffler you can always incorporate crawling into play and climbing and other activities as they get older and they will still be able to integrate this reflex before they get to school. I love my little bottom shuffler and I think that bottom shuffling is actually quite a creative way of solving how to move around while holding onto toys etc. I will be interested to see how these creative problem solving skills evolve.

findingherfeet Fri 03-Jan-14 17:52:35

My girl sat up quite early (before six months) then proceeded to sit quite happily (no rolling etc) till she learnt to bum shuffle at 9 months and like you little one got about quite quick - so cute! She didn't crawl but learnt to walk just fine just after her first birthday (despite people suggesting she'd do the monkey shuffle as we liked to call it forever!) at about 18months she learnt to crawl copying a character in a book (!)

jimijack Fri 03-Jan-14 17:59:53

Ds 1 was a bum shuffler, didn't bother to crawl, walking fully at 11 months.

Ds 2 crawled for about 2 days, didn't bum shuffle. Was walking at 9 months fully.

Meh, whatever gets them mobile and into every godam thing they should not get into grin don't suppose it matters really.

Dillydollydaydream Fri 03-Jan-14 18:03:41

Not my dc but I was a bum shuffler, didn't crawl and was late to walk -18m apparently.

My younger brother was a bum shuffler, never crawled. He was a late walker (nearly 2 I think) and had hypermobile joints. He was later diagnosed as dyspraxic. He had lots of physio and other support throughout childhood and is now a fully fledged grown-up with a job, a girlfriend and his own flat.

GingerDoodle Fri 03-Jan-14 21:17:31

My DD is 15 months.

She never really rolled.

She bum-shuffle / paddled from 10 1/2 months (one had on the floor, one leg bent kid of leap frog). She was very fast very quickly.

She cruised the day after her 1st birthday

She walked at 13 1/2 - 14 months and went from 2 shaky steps to full walking within 2/3 weeks.

Climbing wise she just went up the stairs at 14 1/2 months

Also of note is that she has never rolled, sat or stood in her cot till just after her 1st birthday when she threw a tantrum and thew herself out of it!!

Apparently I walked at 11 months - DH was more like 18 so DD was a happy medium. One thing I will say is that DD is the kid of child you don't see practise - she just starts doing which may contribute. A lot of little ones walked (children of friends) who earlier seemed have taken a long time to work steadily.

EweHaveGoatToBeKiddin Fri 03-Jan-14 21:29:06

My dd was a very skilled bum shuffler.

Never crawled.

And didn't walk - or make any attempt - until 23 months.

(As an aside, she has autism, so the delay could possibly be down to that rather than her being a bum shuffler or perhaps a bit of both!)

mumeeee Sat 04-Jan-14 23:29:18

DD1 was a bum shuffler and didn't walk until she was 21 months. She didn't really crawl. When she started walking she did it properly and by 2.5 she walked up a mountain with her Dad. She is now a Science teacher and isn't dyslexic. However her sister who did crawl is Dyspraxic

PlainBrownEnvelope Sun 05-Jan-14 00:39:04

Ds was an asymmetric bum shufflers ( one foot tucked into groin, one leg out in front, both hands to propel). He was referred to physio at 13 mths as wasn't pulling up. She identified an issue with transitional movements so he didn't know how to move his limbs to stand up, if that makes sense. Once I'd moved them for him a few times he got it and then progressed to cruising and walked at 15 mo. he never crawled and as a result was never much of a climber. Now at 3.4 he's fine although he does struggle with things that require a lot of gross motor coordination like scooting or riding a bike, and also seems quite disinterested in them. He's good at throwing and kicking though. Too early to tell re dyslexia.

mouse26 Sun 05-Jan-14 11:22:25

Ds1 crawled - started walking about 14 months. DaTe used to drag himself along with one elbow, the rest of him would be flat to the floor hmm but he started walking at 10 months

mouse26 Sun 05-Jan-14 11:22:57

DaTe = Ds2 blush

BarbarianMum Sun 05-Jan-14 12:40:22

Ds1 was a very half-hearted bum shuffler (mostly he just sat like a pudding) - he went straight from that to walking and didn't work out crawling til he was about 16 mo.

Ds2 crawled for about 3 weeks before walking.

They were both early walkers (12 mo and 10mo respectively).

I'd want to know exactly what your HV's concern was about hand use though. Does she feel his fine motor skills are lacking? Not convinced that there would be any link b/w that and bum shuffling though.

BarbarianMum Sun 05-Jan-14 12:41:50

Oh and no dyslexia etc - its not a causal relationship.

I've got 21 month old twins. One crawls, one bottom shuffles. It's like they deliberately decided to be different! Neither are yet walking (well, will if you hold their hand, but not independently). So we've got the double delay of shuffling and being a twin (ie when 2/3 of the people in the room aren't walking, why would you?!)

Top tip for shufflers - if you drape a blanket over them while they're shuffling they look EXACTLY like when Elliot disguised ET to take him out the house wink.

Not that I ever treat my children as sources of endless amusement...

mummy1973 Sun 05-Jan-14 12:57:42

Both mine bottom shuffled. They walked at 22 and 20 months. They are now 9 and 6 and no problems.

JiltedJohnsJulie Mon 06-Jan-14 09:28:53

DSister was a bum shuffler. She walked and talked later, started walking at about 20 months. Hasn't affected her in later life, she has a good career and has just got her masters smile

crunchyfrog Mon 06-Jan-14 10:05:02

DD both bum shuffled and crawled, but was walking at 10 months. DS1 never crawled, fastest bum shuffler in the west. He was walking at 10.5 months, but has a lot of issues (hypermobility, falls very badly) that are linked to not crawling according to the physio. He also has ASD. DS2 crawled at 7 months, walked at 12 months. I found him most odd!

hazeyjane Mon 06-Jan-14 10:33:27

Just noticed I posted earlier in this thread (last year) about dd2 - having said she has had no further problems, she has just been diagnosed as dyslexic!

GreenCurlyTeeth Mon 06-Jan-14 10:37:57

DD was a bum shuffler and took her first steps at 12 months and walking confidently at 13 months smile

GreenCurlyTeeth Mon 06-Jan-14 10:39:54

Sorry-I should have said she is 11 now and is not dyslexic.

rainbowfeet Mon 06-Jan-14 10:53:15

Dd1 now 10.5 was a bum shuffler.. Started at about a year.. Never crawled at all.. She was so fast bum shuffling though! Heard all sorts of silly things like bum shufflers will turn out to be Autistic.. A HV actually said she will grow up to have problems with her hips. & we should stop her shuffling. hmm She was a late walker approx 16 months but when she did finally get up off her bum she was literally steady on her feet & running within a couple of days.
A family friend who is a GP did assure me when I started to worry just before she walked that the reason she hadn't stood up or cruised before 16 months was that she had no need to, as a bum shuffler she could reach stuff in her eye line & get around quick enough. smile

I was one, didn't walk till I was nearly two, no problems or disabilities to show for it.

LEMoncehadacatcalledSANTA Mon 06-Jan-14 11:05:12

My DD is was a bum-shuffler, walked late and is dyslexic. There is ANNECDOTAL evidence that links bum-shuffling with dyslexia and dyspraxia. It certainly has nothing to do with me not encouraging my DD to crawl hmm Whoever told you that newyearoldmum was a fucking idiot!

On the other hand - I was a bumshuffler, who like my DD never crawled - i walked at nine months, could read fluently before i started school.

One of the things i was told about bumshufflers being late walkers, which makes sense, is that its just easier - they don't have to get up from sitting, they are already ready to do whatever they want to do when they get to their destination, a crawler has to clambour up into sitting position when they get to the duplo bricks grin

LEMoncehadacatcalledSANTA Mon 06-Jan-14 11:08:16

My theory on bumshuffling is that its due to nappies - nice cushioned bum shuffle compared to hands and knees - ouchie smile

ISeeYouShiverWithAntici Mon 06-Jan-14 11:11:39

My eldest was a bum shuffler. he couldn't crawl because he has erbs palsy and one of his arms is partially paralysed. But my god could he motor! He could bum shuffle across the room at lightening speed!

My youngest was a crawler.

One of them walked a few days before his first birthday and one of them walked a few days after. On account of clearly being the worst mother in the world blush i cannot for the life of me remember which did which.

I do remember they both did it in the kitchen though.

re bum shufflers more likely to turn out to be autistic - that's really weird! I've never heard of that. grin who told you that?

(mine both are btw.)

Bottom shuffling can be a feature of hypermobility - www.hypermobility.org - as arms are flexible so can't take too much weight. My Dd is Hypermobile ( as well as ds and myself) and she is the only one who has bottom shuffled. Worth getting a physio to check as we have had fab advice how to get moving eg learning to weight bear on knees, stand etc. Hypermobile children are helped by wearing orthotic boots before they walk to encourage standing and cruising.

Mintyy Thu 09-Jan-14 18:35:13

I was and didn't start walking until 23 months. But I'm NT with no disabilities.

LEMoncehadacatcalledSANTA Thu 09-Jan-14 18:36:41

Practically, thats really interesting because i think my DD (who is now 8 and doesn't have any problems) is hypermobile in her arms - she can pretty much bend them both ways at the elbow <makes me shudder>. All her other joints seem to be normal. Never saught medical advice as it doesn't seem to be a problem for her, she bum shuffled and walked late

LEMoncehadacatcalledSANTA Thu 09-Jan-14 18:37:22

What does NT stand for ? i see it alot here, i know it means no disabilities etc but what does it actually say?

Mintyy Thu 09-Jan-14 18:37:57

neurologically typical

LEMoncehadacatcalledSANTA Thu 09-Jan-14 18:43:38

Thanks minty smile ive often wondered.

ipswichwitch Thu 09-Jan-14 18:47:27

DS1 was a bum shuffler - hated tummy time and refused to crawl until long after he mastered walking, just think he preferred being upright so he could see what's going on. He took his first steps at 14 months and progressed very quickly to running, there was no furniture-walking stage with him. He was prem (34 weeks), and had no significant delays developmentally so far.

Interesting about the hypermobility, as I was a bum shuffler and I'm hypermobile in all joints. Not seen much evidence of that in DS so far though.

You can be Hypermobile and have no problems eg gymnasts, ballerinas, some musicians. Others - like us - do have symptoms of the hypermobility syndrome.

lambbone Thu 09-Jan-14 19:03:21

All 3 of my DCs were pretty late walkers- two crawlers, and one........

....bunny hopper! Lord knows why, it looked really hard on the knees.

Never crawled.

Very physically adept once she'd got the hang of walking though. Could cycle without stabilisers by the age of 3, which looked very sweet.

Persistentdonor Thu 09-Jan-14 19:05:19

Both my sons, (now in their 30's,) were bum shufflers, each with a different technique. They walked at 15 and 16 months respectively; not sure if that is especially late for boys?? Always sturdy chaps, they were award swimmers while at school and are still physical and active. Hope that eases some worries. :-)

ChilliQueen Thu 09-Jan-14 19:20:51

My friends 2 DC's were both bum shufflers... neither walked until just after 2 years.... then just one day were up and about and no problems - they just wore out a LOT of trousers in the process! (Her husband apparently also bum shuffled). They are older now and absolutely fine in all respects.

Doppledanger Thu 09-Jan-14 19:32:50

My dd was a bus shuffler, was seen by a physio because she wasn't weight bearing and and slept with her legs over her head!!??!! She walked at 16 months but took to it straight away and never really did much cruising. She did learn to crawl but was much faster at shuffling.

I also have a dyslexic son who never bum shuffled and crawled and walked fairly early.

BackforGood Thu 09-Jan-14 19:43:23

My God-daughter was a bum shuffler.
Never crawled.
Walked at 26 months (do I win? grin)
She is a lovely young lady now and never had any physical difficulties.

TheTragicClam Thu 09-Jan-14 20:06:45

DD was a bum shuffler, only walked independently at 22-23 months (much to everyone else's' horror). She's still catching up with her peers in terms of running and stairs but not far off (She's 31 months now). We did encourage her a lot and also played games with tunnels etc to get her to crawl. Don't panic I'd say OP.

Wobmum Thu 09-Jan-14 20:38:31

My DS4 was a bum shuffler, walked late (19months), never crawled and was slightly delayed with speech such that we saw speech therapist age 3, but were sent away and told that it would sort itself out. They were right; he is 13 now. I have worried about dyslexia over the years, there were delays in reading/writing, but held my nerve and no sign now. He learned to ride his bike by himself with no help. Doing fine at school, although I still think he could do with having started school 6 months later (June baby too).

jenpetronus Thu 09-Jan-14 20:43:51

Another DS2 bum shuffler. Not a step until about 18 months, didn't even pull himself up - why bother when you're so fast! but his vocabulary was ace - waffled away way ahead of his peers, still does (in both languages, we're in Fr) All will be fine - never seen a bum-shuffling adult!

jessisinthegarden Thu 09-Jan-14 21:18:54

My DD was a bum shuffler. She also became expert at commando-style rolling to get from A to B fast.
Both my DH and I were crawlers. My sister a bum shuffler, but probably no correlation!
She walked at 14 months (very average) and loved being on her tummy.
Don't think there's anything like a textbook child, as each is different and will get there in their own way and at their own speed.
Tell the HV to shove it.

JingleBrains Fri 10-Jan-14 04:18:51

DS was a bum shuffler too, walked soon after first birthday. He's 5 now and no issues with mobility but he is a cautious little fella, not v sporty
Not sure about dyslexia, he seems to be coping OK with reading but is not great at spelling his 'tricky words'
He used to say 'motato' instead of 'tomato' and stuff like that, but is getting better. My favourite was getting him to try and say 'temperature' grin but sadly he can now say it properly

JingleBrains Fri 10-Jan-14 04:21:21

Oh yes Wobmum I thing age makes a difference, DS is a late August baby and is the youngest in class, hence I'm not pushing him too hard he's still just a baby to me! (I know, I know....)

HarrietVaneAgain Fri 10-Jan-14 06:51:02

DS2 walked at 22 months. Learnt to crawl at 18 months but clearly saw it as a hilarious novelty. Refused to weight-bear until 21 months so took off pretty quickly from there. Also has very good manual dexterity.

I didn't do anything at all until walking at 14 months. I'm dyslexic.

bryte Fri 10-Jan-14 08:28:15

My DD2 was a bum shuffler. It was most amusing. She was also very fast and adopted the one handed bounce approach. She'd propel herself upwards and forwards with one hand, often holding something in the other hand. I witnessed lots of different bum shuffling styles and one baby boy did have a very elegant, symmetrical method, and he did not use his hands at all.

DD walked at 19 months. The main problems were her wearing out clothing, especially if she was playing outside. I had to put her in waterproof trousers as she was shuffling during the winter period and the park was always wet and muddy. The other problem was having to lift her everywhere and carry her upstairs and lift her onto play equipment, wheely toys etc... She was heavy! And she couldn't cope with any kind of step. She wouldn't turn around and go down backwards like a crawling child does.

When she did walk she walked very confidently and did not have any of those wobbles that my DD1 had as a walker at 11 months. She was referred by my HV at 18 months to check for hip problems but luckily walked at 19 months and did not need the appointment. She needed to be coaxed to walk. She wasn't that interested in standing up but eventually, we'd walk her around holding her hands and she found the will to walk!

GingaNinja Sat 11-Jan-14 21:04:07

Tell the HV to get stuffed. DD was a bum shuffler. Think yogic flying. She had the arms of Madonna and the flabby thighs of her mother. She walked at 19 months BUT only at nursery (I saw her through the window plus had been told by staff she was walking). She didn't bother her arse with walking at home till approx. 6 WEEKS later when she lost the rag one evening and stalked off in disgust from the kitchen through to the sitting room carrying at least 3 different things ie no balance issues etc and clearly well used to walking around. Strictly speaking she still hasn't rolled over - y'know, what they're supposed to do at approx. 4 months - except when she's occasionally unconscious!

DD is now well on the way to 5yo and wanting to know why we don't have trams in our nearest city - the question which couldn't wait at 05:58am yesterday nrrgh, is obsessed with dinosaurs, volcanoes and takes great delight in imparting knowledge to others. Strato cumulus is a cloud Mummy (look of scathing contempt) etc.

Guidelines etc are just that - a guide. Not compulsory. PS: make sure you video your offspring's bum shuffling because it's amazing how fast you forget how they moved. V funny watching back!

Karoleann Sat 11-Jan-14 21:54:42

Dc3 was a bum shuffler (we went through lots of pairs of trousers too), she sat late -9Months, started shuffling at 12 months, crawled at 15 months and walked at 18 months.
Physically now at 2 and a half she is fine, though ds1 says she runs like a girl.

mummybto3 Mon 13-Jan-14 16:39:14

My DC4 is 2.5yrs old and a bum shuffler. All my other DCs crawled at around 11 mths then walked at 18 months. DC4 didn't weight near at all till around 18 months, only got from lying on back to sitting position for first time last week! Never crawled, only just getting on to knees, pulls up now but from squatting not kneeling, just beginning to cruise but can't walk, climb stairs or stand alone! Loose ligaments and 'outward turned' hips but no other diagnosed problem despite obviously seeing all kinds of doctors etc.. Hope not too long now till she walks!

Xmasbaby11 Mon 13-Jan-14 17:19:50

DD was a master bum shuffler! We gave her a walker when she was 11.5 months and by 12.5 months she was walking confidently and independently. I've never heard any connection between bum shuffling and age of walking.

melliebobs Mon 13-Jan-14 17:21:16

Dd was a. Bum shuffler from 12 months
She didn't crawl. Well why would you when your hands are free and u can see where ur going shuffling on your bum?!

She started walking at 21.5 months

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