Can your 2.9 year old recognise all letters, numbers etc??(51 Posts)
Shoudl I be worried that DD1 (PFB) doesn't know all her letters, and although she can count to 20, doesn't recognise numbers yet??All around me competitive
friends who have chidlren of similar ages are proudly shouting about all the counting, reading, writinge etc that theri dc can do and its making me panic!.
DD1 loves colouring but is still doing random sqiuiggles and can't colour between the lines, although she does like to attempt to draw pictures of animals (which actually bear no resembalnce to animals). I thought the things which she should be learning now werre things like how to get dressed etc ie life skills rather than literacy and numeracy but it seems others think differently!
No she can't! Don't be so bloody daft!
DD had no idea about letters or numbers at that age. She's now at Secondary School, in top set for maths and amazing at creative writing. Relax!
No don't worry.
Most of the competitive shouting will be hugely exaggerated. One mum in our group bragged about her dd knowing all her letters. What her dd actually knew was how to recite the abc song like any other nursery rhyme. Nothing more.
My dd at 3.10 can't even do that and she's verbally advanced.
Don't stress. Seriously.
absolutely not, DS is 3.3 and can count to 20, probably could do to 10 at that 2.9. Took him AGES to get colours and just now can recognise the the 3 letters of his name and ABC but that's it (and he's been at pre-school for over a year). Your friends are either lying or all have prodigies! He can't draw AT ALL, just scribbles and can't do puzzles. They all do things at their own pace - and he can't dress himself yet either, just about pulling up pant and trousers. Please don't stress about this, its a poisonous competition that does nothing but make people feel bad x
Lots and lots of children, infact the majority, of children start school not knowing all their letters and numbers.
And some go to school being able to chant or sing the alphabet - but this is not going to help them at school much where the focus is always on letter sounds.
Bonkers DS has a massive vocabulary and is nearly 4. He recognises the first letter of his name and his name. That's it. Can count to 20 ish but goes wonky at 13.
Doesn't know letters or written numbers. I'm not worried <slacker>
phew! noidea why people felel the need to brag so outrageously!!!
OTOH he can tell you why giraffes have long necks and pontificate on who would win in a fight between a stegosaurus and a rhinocerous. So clearly a genius
Thanks all (dd is PFB as you can tell)
I'm with you, potty-training, sharing, getting dressed, counting. Much more important plus it's not a race!
My just 4 yr old has only just started doing flowers and stick men.... She knows the letters in her name - she knows the letters that words start with as dd1 is learning them ( we start school later over here). She can recognise some numbers....
A friend of mine was proudly telling us how her son 2.9 knows all the numbers to 20. What he can do is say them in order, much like singing a song. Another friend told me how her son, also 2.9, can spell. What he can do is recognise the letters M and S in Marks & Spencer window. Take with a big pinch of salt what people tell you. In many Scandinavian countries kids don't learn to read until they're 7 or 8, yet they come near the top in international educational tests later on.
At 2.9 I wouldn't expect them to know anything like that.
DS could "count" to 10 by 18 months but all he was doing was reciting the number he had no idea what the meant. He is 3 now and can understand the numbers and recognise them written down but thats only because he has always liked numbers for some reason.
The only letters he vaguely knows are those in his name.
My 5 year old doesn't even know all her letters yet! She has no special needs, just normal with a non pushy (read exhausted) parent!
no, DS2 is 2.9 and can count to 18, he does also understand the concept of counting, but that is it. I have no idea whether he knows any letters as I've never asked him. He knows his colours but isn't at all reliable in getting them right.
I was like you are with DS1 and stressed that he was not as advanced as he should be. He was fine
In answer to your quesion, my DD is 2.9. She can read numbers up to ten, count verbally to 25 and can recognise all the letters of the alphabet regardless of order or context. She has been able to read numbers and letters since she just turned 2 so around 23 months.
However, she CAN'T read numbers beyond ten or count physical items further than ten. Apart from reading her name she seems disinterested in putting letters and sounds together and she can't write anything apart from copying or tracing her name, nor can she colour between lines and most of her drawing apart from faces is unrecognisable!
I don't believe she is a prodigy at all.
So it perfectly possible that some of these mums are not lying, however I don't think ALL of their children are prodigies. Kids develop at all different rates. What is obvious is that they are competitive boasting and making you feel uncomfortable. They may well be exaggerating as well.
I know a mum like this whose child had an amazing vocab when she was just 18 months old and my child was barely saying anything. Both parents used to point the differences out between them in a very obvious manner, and I think they were and still are convinced their daughter is a genius because of this despite the fact her peers inc my dd have now caught up with her and are just as vocal.
Nah. At 3.9 she can do those things and more, but she is way ahead of where DC1 was at that age. And he is fine at school.
Dd knows number 4 and number 2. Everything else is number 8 my friend has taught her two year old all letters but only capitals which seems a bit pointless to me! Dd does know shapes and colours but that's mainly down to the fab Melissa & Doug puzzles we have I highly recommend then they're her favourite and you can show off to your friends
This remindd me of a time a friend was bragging while out about her genius 2yo who, when we all turned to look at her, was licking the table
DD1 knew all letters and numbers written down at 2 could spell, read and add up before school
DD2 is two now. She is non verbal so can't say any numbers or letters she just babbles.
They all pick it up in the end
I don't think that learning letters and numbers at 2.9 is all that important. It is quite easy to hot house your toddler to do all the things you mention.
Life should be fun during the early years. Developing good speech, toilet training, social skills are a bigger priority. It is far easier to teach a four year old letters than a two year old. Unless there is an issue like dyslexia most children learn to read during reception.
God yes Really, I have neither the time nor inclination to hot house my DC. I can see though that children are all different. One boy in DS1's class was readly freely by reception. His parents were far from hot housing types and he was/is a very able natural reader. I was actually when I first heard him
I don't understand how people can say stuff like 'my child is a genius' in public, unless of course they actually are! It makes me cringe inwardly. My neighbour is always going on about how her daughter is 'soo advanced for her age'. She is a normal bright toddler!
Ds is nearly 3.6
Since 3 he has been able to write his name (only three letters) and recognise the letters of the alphabet, all letter sounds and some letter names. He has been recognising numbers since he was about two and a half but only knows them to 20. He is very very verbal.
He can only count to twenty and only reliably touch count to 8.
He recognises about ten words by rote but can't sound out words yet and can only occasionally recognise the first sounds in words.
But his drawing his hopeless, he has no interest at all. He can just about do a face and a person and he will only colour things in red, his favourite colour, regardless of what it is. Can't do jigsaw puzzles, completely hopeless. Still wet overnight.
Swings and roundabouts really, and they all level out in the infants by and large.
yeah, don't worry - DD1 is 3.10 can now recognise most letters and a few numbers, can do phonics sounds, but not link them to letters. Is starting to sound out words and identify key sounds - will ask 'what letter does george begin with?' etc. Good on colours and shapes, very verbal, has excellent vocab. Can count objects up to about 10 (on a good day), but it's all a bit hit or miss. She can draw, but would rather scribble...
She can do puzzles fairly well - up to about 30-40 pieces with a small bit of prompting, but does them by matching pictures. She loves imaginative play and is a bit resistant to the performance side of learning (if you ask her to do something, she won't). Crap at dressing, not dry at night...
Her cousin is a few months older, but could recognise all letters by 2 (was strongly encouraged I'd say, not hothoused), and could write her name (5 letters) and read simple words by the time she was the same age as my dd. But my dd is a much more creative thinker so I am sure it will all even out.
Yes, both of mine have been able to. However, the older one (now in Reception) is completely alone in this among his peers (in a v good school in a v aspirational area). And his life would have been easier had he been better at life skills and less good at reading. But that's just the kind of child he is - we didn't hothouse him. The younger one (now aged 2.3) knows all his letters and numbers primarily because the older one insists on teaching him .
Ds whos now 4.2 could recognise all letters and numbers (up to 10) by 2yrs and knew all colours basic shapes by 20 months very verbal (freakily so lol ), and now has been reading basic books since age 3 and a bit , BUT, still cant count reliably to 20 or recognise numbers over 13 , clearly not interested unless its the written word , when people comment on his verbal skills and reading ability , im very happy to state but hes not as advanced with numbers , he also is very messy colouring in but can free write , all children have strengths , im more interested in him being kind ,following the rules ,and listening skills , which i feel he is sometimes lacking ! , but hes happy and enjoys learning whatever his level.
same here LapinDeBois, Ds is reading up to 3 books a day (basic ones ) but cant (i mean wont )get himself dressed unless i help or it would take hours ,but will discuss planets for ages , whilst still sitting in his underpants just before we leave for nursery lol
We should get them together. They could discuss planets in their underpants together .
time it doesn't improve by the age of 7. DS1 can talk about nonsense
who would win in a fight between Garmadon and the four headed dragon for ages, but ask him to get ready for school...........
and yes, DS1 was less able 'academically' at 4 but is very artistic, and now at 7 it is a given at parents evening that he is good at art, which he is actually. Although he never drew anything until the age of 5. Not a thing, then suddenly he was off!
<rolls eyes> Urgh, competitive mums. Of course not, ridiculous.
We just laugh at the obvious difference in his ability to write things, with a lavish title , and then draw a picture of it which bears no resemblance to the subject at all , not even a bit , artistic NOT !!!!lol,
My friends are great as we are all pretty good at being honest and not being unrealistic about abilities and things some of the kids are not ready or dont want to do yet ,takes the pressure off , and we are very good at politely nodding at the women at nursery who exagerate their pfbs genius abilities
Lol ive just had a vision of Ds at school next year after pe whilst all your children with really good skills are off into the playground with their friends , hell be putting on trousers back to front and shirt done up wrong shoes on wrong feet ,
mental note to self -- no books in morning until dressed , think i need to get tough
They're just interested in different things IMO. At 2.9 DS1 could read (ie sound out words and recognise loads of sight words enough to read most public signs) and recognise numbers up to 1000. But he couldn't jump with 2 feet, talk to another child or share without a tantrum.
(Disclaimer: I hardly even read to the poor child; he learnt most of his skills from street name signs, shop displays and house numbers
while I dragged him along whilst doing boring jobs in town.)
Wow 1000 , incredible ,and mine struggled with 10 to 20 consistently at that age , see massive difference Op you have nothing to worry about , they all have there strengths
My ds is 2.8. He counts 'one, two, fwee...' & that's it. Doesn't recognise numbers & only one letter, that at the start of his name.
As for drawing/writing, his are just scribbles & he doesn't usually hold pencil properly (& uses either hand).
He can't jump.
He has a fab imagination, though.
I always think he is clever (v biased mum) until I read mn threads. Then I remember that almost all of my Reception children (I was/am a teacher) started not knowing all their numbers and letters. All of them knew all of them by the end of the year. Likewise, some of the children who couldn't read at all at the start of Year 1, were doing so fluently & with expression by the end.
No. He knows some numbers but not all and I would venture not reliably for those he seems to know. I haven't tried him counting to twenty; I don't think he could.
He recognises the letters in his name. When he is 'spelling' he looks at a word, says the letters in his name and then goes 'cloud' or whatever... He can 'hear' words well - I mean if I spell phonetically when talking he will normally get the word right.
His best friend (a girl) could do all letters and numbers (at least, 1-10) aged about 2.7. She goes to a nursery attached to a private school though and they really push literacy & numeracy. She wanted to learn more as a result so her DM carried it on at home. The other week they were teaching the children to trace over the letters in their name.
My DS attends a Montessori, which of course is the polar opposite. They have tools for all that if a child wants to learn, but if the child isn't interested it won't be forced on them.
I wouldn't worry personally - if an interest is shown then build on it.
My dd does when I use counting books and she can point out letters in the alphabet. She can help atbthe shops with picking veg of good quality and bagging the right amount ( 4 carrots, dd) However she can dress and undress herself, use the loo, brush her teeth, dry herself, sort washing and ironing, Lay the table ( sort of) unpack dishwasher ( not sharp stuff) and put away and make fairy cakes etc with me helping and in total confidnence. So her life skills are getting there.
If I push the alphabet and numbers she closes her eyes and snores loudly
so we do baking instead and she helps with measures and weighing which is much more fun for us both tbh. She doesn't go to nursery and I have no plans o send her.
Dd1 knew them all before she was 2yo.
Because at about 22 months she decided what she really wanted to do was sit at the computer typing. So she'd ask "write mummy" and I'd say "m for mummy, u for umbrella, m for mummy, m for mummy again and y for yoghurt" pointing to the keys as I said it.
She won a story competition when she was about 2.6yo which she did in the same way, about a magic box. One of her older friends was entering and she wanted to be the same, but it was a bit of a surprise to win.
By the end of a week she knew all her letters upper and lower case.
She knew her numbers from catching the bus at a similar age. However that was because she was interested. She didn't know her colours until she was gone 3yo, for example, because they didn't interest her as much.
However I doubt it has made any difference in the long term. She still (year 7) reads a lot. She does well at English, yes, but she's top group, not top of the top. She did it because she was interested at the time, but it doesn't mean it's taken her above her natural ability. And she would never win a story competition now for creative writing-she probably wouldn't do it because she doesn't particularly enjoy imaginative stories.
Dd2 could sing her alphabet at 2yo. That impressed people. However she was repeating dd1. "elem-no-pea" was a word as far as she was concerned. She hadn't a clue that they were separate letters. Not sure at what point she could recognise all letters, sometime when she was 3yo because they did them at preschool. She's probably slightly better than dd1 at English, or will be when she decided to consistantly write with punctuation rather than a stream of consciousness
I think ds knew his alphabet round about school start time. He's year 1 now and I'm fairly certain he could name them all. But not totally confident. Getting him to write anything other than "Spitfire" "Red Arrows" or "concorde" is a complete disaster. So he knows those letters. I think when/if he decides to bother with writing he will be as good as the other two at English.
So smile nicely at the other parents. Say "that's good". Knowing that half are exaggerating, a quarter are telling blatent fibs, a quarter may be right... but it's not going to matter in the end. And enjoy your time with your child doing the things that you and her like to do.
timeforathink your DS might surprise you. Mine is surprisingly independent except when he's with me - he has no problems getting himself dressed/undressed for swimming and PE. He's still a nightmare to get dressed in the morning, though. Also, I was going to say that I've been really pleased by the supportive attitude of other parents since he started Reception. He's at a small village school, and all the other mums appear to have discovered that he's very bright. But so far I haven't detected a whiff of judgment (though they could all be on here bitching about me, I guess ).
No, he didn't, he pretty much new all the letters by the time he started school at 4.7 and now at 5.10 he's reading way ahead of his age.
ha! mine were reading whole books before they could properly sit down....
seriously...at 2,9 or even 3,5 for that matter, I would not know why on earth they have to know these things. Nor why I should teach them. School starts at 4/5 which already is very young in my opinion (I did not go to school in the UK, nor did DH and we seem to have learned quickly enough at 6 anyway ). I am all for stimulating but follow cues from what they learn at school. Not the other way round.
My DS could recognise all his alphabet, numbers, shapes (even more complicated ones like hexagon, octagon, parallelogram, efc), and colours. But he has AS so had a pretty amazing memory at that age, although he could barely use proper sentences and was still in nappies so I wouldn't put too much stress on it.
my 2.6 year old knows recognises all the letters and numbers up to about 40 and can count to about 80. I don't push things its just what he's into. However he has no clue about potty training, he can't ride a scooter, can't dress or undress himself (he won't even try) and isn't particularly good at feeding himself either.
Panda> What is AS?
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