would you give rescue remedy to an 8 year old?

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duke Sun 11-Nov-12 22:04:24

My ds 8 has developed a going to sleep problem. He's always been good at going to bed and usually reads himself to sleep. But just recently he's been crying and saying he can't sleep because he's crying. I've gone through all the usual questions checking he's ok at school/friends/home etc he says he really doesn't know why he's crying. I think he's getting himself in a twist about going to sleep. I have used myself rescue remedy night spray and found it helped me and wondered whether to try it for him. Am I mad to even consider this??? Feel like he needs something to break the habit.

Trills Sun 11-Nov-12 22:05:44

It doesn't actually have any drugs in it, does it? Just brandy and a bit of scent. So no reason why you shouldn't.

I would check with a health professional but I doubt it would do any harm. Our vet told us to give it to our cat when she had to go in the cat box in the car because she hated car journeys!

Trills Sun 11-Nov-12 22:06:32

Spray version doesn't even have the brandy, so it's water and flowers.

duke Sun 11-Nov-12 22:11:28

He's fallen asleep in my bed now. Going to carry him back to bed. Thought these days were over!

Trills Sun 11-Nov-12 22:14:19

Lift with your knees, not with your back!

RavenVonChaos Sun 11-Nov-12 22:14:47

My dd is going thru a phase of being scared at night....scared of ghosts etc. she uses story tapes on iPod.

duke Sun 11-Nov-12 22:20:41

Wait....he's awake more crying!!!!

ZuleikaD Mon 12-Nov-12 11:14:46

It doesn't actually have anything in it, its assistance is purely psychosomatic, so feel free to give it to him but it's doubtful it'll have any effect unless he 'believes' in it.

Durab Mon 12-Nov-12 11:30:21

If that's the case ZuleifaD, how does it help the cat?!

I'd be more inclined to find some "science" about how a warm bath and a milky drink help and hope that has the same psychosomatic effect TBH

ZuleikaD Mon 12-Nov-12 11:32:20

A vet telling an owner to give it to a cat is far more likely to be for the owner's peace of mind than actually doing anything for the cat.

GrimmaTheNome Mon 12-Nov-12 11:40:46

Its probably OK so long as when he's old enough, you make sure he understands the placebo effect.

Trills Mon 12-Nov-12 11:46:14

Placebo works on children and animals - they are calmer if their parents/carers/owners are calmer.

GrimmaTheNome Mon 12-Nov-12 12:09:32

>Placebo works on children and animals - they are calmer if their parents/carers/owners are calmer.

yup, placebo by proxy.

Rescue remedy smells nice and wont harm him; something like lavendar aromatherapy might help too (that conceivably actually does something even). 'This is something that will help, I'm not alone with my getting to sleep problem'. That sort of thing. Good luck! smile

Trills Mon 12-Nov-12 14:14:57

Plus an 8 yr old is definitely old enough to understand that being given something to eat or smell or put on skin is "medicine" and so they shouldfeel better.

DameEnidsOrange Mon 12-Nov-12 14:18:00

DS' paed recommended it to help him when he was 5 (ASD so has sleep issues)

I give it to 8yo DD too now as she struggles to sleep

bealos Mon 12-Nov-12 14:33:48

I've given it to my ds since he was 3... It's booze really. A few drops of booze.

duke Mon 12-Nov-12 20:16:37

Tonight I have done no telly after tea, warm horlicks, cuddles, stories and in to bed I can hear the first starts of tears already. Going in with the rescue remedy....

GrimmaTheNome Mon 12-Nov-12 20:19:36

Hope it (or something) works. Poor lad - poor you.

shrimponastick Mon 12-Nov-12 20:24:28

I wouldn't.

What if he becomes so used to having the Rescue Remedy he won't sleep without it, in future.

seeker Mon 12-Nov-12 20:24:32

It can't possibly do any harm- what with it having no active ingredients. But would be very wary of getting a young child dependent on this sort of "prop". Have you tried story tapes? Or sitting with him while he goes to sleep? Or if you don't want to do that, pottering about upstairs cleaning the bathroom or folding sheets or just sitting and reading at the top of the stairs. Anything to make him feel completely safe and secure.

bealos Mon 12-Nov-12 20:34:29

Yes, hard if they become dependent on it. I've only used Rescue Remedy for injuries....

duke Mon 12-Nov-12 20:58:54

I'm in the room next door. That's what I am worried about, him thinking he needs it, I just feel he needs something to break the habit, he's turned it in to a 'thing' He said tonight its started again I can't sleep. I said you don't have to go to sleep just relax and think of a 100 nice things. If he was a girl I might think it was hormones do you think that's what it could be?

seeker Tue 13-Nov-12 09:06:27

Duke- what happens if you sit with him? I had to sit with my dd for a while when she was 7ish. I just sat qnd read my book and by the time I'd finished my glass of wine cup of tea she was asleep. Have you tried that?

poozlepants Tue 13-Nov-12 09:12:21

Get him a kids hypnotherapy cd to listen to.
I use a free one I downloaded onto my phone and after I sniggered a bit at his annoying voice I found it really good. There are kids ones about. My sister had one for her boy who was having the same problem at 8 or so. He listened to it everynight for a week or so and then was fine and he just put it on himself if he was having trouble.

bealos Tue 13-Nov-12 12:14:58

Unless, duke it's a "pretend' Rescue Remedy dropper thing... I mean, kids have teddies, comforters, all sorts to get them to sleep.

bealos Tue 13-Nov-12 12:16:28

I also have to sit with my ds1 (7) til he goes to sleep. He doesn't normally take long and sometimes I find it frustrating, but he'll generally go to sleep quicker than if I leave the room, when it becomes a battle.

I've found comic type books he can read himself in bed are great for leaving him alone though - TinTin is ace! And then I promise to come and check on him in 5-10 minutes and by the time I come back he's fallen asleep on his book!

duke Tue 13-Nov-12 18:11:18

I've spoken to school today she said he has been absolutely fine, working hard, no problems at school. So that has put my mind at rest. Gave him the rescue remedy after the second bout of tears and he feel asleep DS 6 came in crying, jumping on the band wagon and said I can't sleep either can I have some, I said no go to bed he did and went to sleep. This am ds said the horlicks and medicine worked, let's see how tonight goes.

GrimmaTheNome Tue 13-Nov-12 18:29:07

Good - glad it broke the cycle. Sometimes we need these little props - the plain water anti-monster spray for under small children's beds for instance. And I would think better RR than the pharmaceutically active alternatives some resort to though using as placebos, such as calpol.

TwoCrazyKids Tue 13-Nov-12 19:09:12

You can get rescue remedy for kids smile

LynetteScavo Tue 13-Nov-12 19:15:00

Maybe some lavender oil too?

I spray a bit in the bedroom, and tell the DC it's "magic sleepy stray".

Behind their backs DH calls it the "calm the fuck down spray".

elfycat Tue 13-Nov-12 19:15:36

I'm a bach flower practitioner and you can give rescue remedy to children just fine. I've been giving my kids the stuff from 6 months. Maybe it just makes you feel better as a placebo (though obviously I don't believe that) but if you're calmer and your DS feels better because of it then it's still a winner.

My background is 20 years in nursing but I have an interest in all kinds of health care and am open to anything that works IMO bach remedies including rescue remedy do work

If you have any specific questions please pm me.

duke Tue 13-Nov-12 22:29:17

Thanks for all your help and advice, I really appreciate it. Tonight he had warm drink and story then one drop of rescue remedy, which called sleep medicine and for the first time in over a week hasn't cried and gone to sleep. Think I'm going to carry on with RR but only if he asks for it and see how it goes.

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