(58 Posts)
emab Sat 19-Jan-08 22:22:50


ElenyaTuesday Sat 19-Jan-08 22:24:43

Not sure if this helps emab, but my nephew didn't walk until he was 3 - no physical reason for it, he just didn't do it! He is absolutely fine.

If there is no medical cause for it, hopefully he will spontaneously start. Does he get around other ways?

yousaidit Sat 19-Jan-08 22:28:39

Not sure if this helps but my 14m dd is not crawling and absolutely has no interest in bearing any weight on her legs! As asked before, does your son use any other methods of 'travel', does he bear anyweight onlegs if you hold himup, does he crawl and therefore use his legs to push himself along?

BITCAT Sat 19-Jan-08 22:29:23

My ds2 was slow at everything from weening, walking sitting and talking. He was almost 22mths before he started walking and he was refered to hospital for tests, they couldn't find anything wrong with him physically. Can i ask does he have older brothers or sisters. He runs, talks, is just like any other kid now, it will come eventually!!

HereComeTheGirls Sun 20-Jan-08 08:11:30

My DD is 15 months, is crawling but doesn't want to weight bear or walk either. She is assessed every 2 months by a physio who has said her movements are all normal and she is just taking longer to do things. It is SUCH a worry though, every night I dream of her walking, so I feel for you!!

Feenie Sun 20-Jan-08 08:52:37

My 2 year old ds is weightbearing but not walking. GP said he would be worried if he wasn't weightbearing - he holds onto something all the time on the rare occasions that he walks, but holding onto a wall clearly doesn't hold him up, so we think it's a confidence thing. However, we have been referred to a paediatrician to check everything out in case (ears, balance, etc). Maybe it would be worth going back to your GP?

emab Tue 22-Jan-08 21:17:23

He bum shuffles very well, but doesnt weight bear at all, doesnt crawl, doesnt pull himself up, unable to sit up from lying down, having physio, and has seen Drs but not found anything which is good, but gets more of a concern the longer it goes on and he doesnt progress. thank you all for your messages.Just seems like im the only one with a 2 year old who has to be carried everywhere!!

vicksie Tue 22-Jan-08 21:31:46

Hi both my dcs were bum shufflers and didn't start walking until just before they were 2, they never weight beared on legs either

I have discovered since that I was a bum shuffler and late walker also my mum was so maybe some connection.No doctor/ HV seemed too concerned and they have both gone on to develop well.

Also research I did myself indicated some connection with bum shuffling as they obviusly have hands free to do everything whereas crawlers have to use their hands so seem to want to stand up more
who knows! - got totally fed up with all the comments though and they were both so heavy to carry I truly sympathise !

mum2mum Mon 28-Jan-08 11:22:10

my son is 31 mths and still not walking.. he was very late hitting all his mile stones and although his speech is getting better it's still very poor for his age... he weight bears if he's holding onto something but does not attempt to even stand unaided... he's under a pedeatric doctor and has physio therapy but all tests so far ( x rays bloods mri scans) have all come back normal... it;s such a worry but i'm keeping positive and enjoying his extended baby stage, more cuddles and an extra closeness i didn't get with my very indepentant daughter :-) will be getting the results of his latest mri scan tomorrow (spinal/lower nervous system) and if thats all clear he will be haveing tests done on his leg muscles.... i know this hasn't been much help to you but just wanted to let you know your not alone...

Rynny Tue 29-Jan-08 14:15:11

My DS walked at 30 months and was also late sitting etc. We had the help of a physio who said his reluctance was mainly due to a confidence issue. Within a couple of months of seeing her, he took his own steps and then there was no stopping him. They gave us lots of good exercises to encourage him and also fitted him with special little boots which probably sound horrendous but were actually really sweet and support little one's feet in the right places to give added confidence.

We too worried ourselves sick over it but knew that one day we'd look back and wonder why we worried so much. And it certainly is nice to know you're not on your own because that was how we felt and could find very little on the internet. Sometimes you just want someone who's had the same experience to reassure you.

Rynny Tue 29-Jan-08 14:19:44

Oh, and mum2mum, I completely understand. My DS is under the watch of just about every health worker you can get (speech therapist, continence nurse etc) and I'm getting really down about because he's a beautiful, happy little boy at the end of the day and I get sick and tired of justifying his 'differences'! Hope the MRI scan went okay - we didn't get that far but had blood taken to check for Muscular Dystrophy, Fragile X and that type of thing.

mum2mum Wed 30-Jan-08 10:14:26

ds spinal scans normal, which is another huge relief, and the last lot of bloods were also normal... he's back at hospital next week for more blood tests and they are also going to test his spinal fluid... so i'm still in the dark as to why he doesn't walk... i know all kids develope at different stages and i hate putting him through all these tests, which hopefully in the end might turn out unneccessary, but i couldn't live with mysself if there was something i could have done and didn't... just got to keep on with his physio and prey he's up and running around this summer (grin)

FioFio Wed 30-Jan-08 10:18:02

I am a bit reluctant to post on this thread as when my daughter was this age I was hoping some magic wand would be waved and everything would be 'ok'. It wasnt ok though and her delayed motor development was just an indicator of her global special needs. We had every test goind and at 8 years old she still doesnt have a diagnosis. She does walk though!

All I would suggest is that you try and enjoy your babies as much as possible, no matter how distressing it feels atm. Get all the help you can, physio/portage/sn nursery (if poss)/ot/salt and just stick at it

Kellsie Tue 18-Mar-08 16:22:58

I am glad to see that there are other Mum's out there with toddlers who are'nt walking yet. My DS is 22 months old and still not walking, he did'nt crawl until he was 17 months. He can pull himself up on furniture and stand OK holding on, he can climb the stairs but has'nt quite taken steps yet, I think his ankles are still weak. He tried to stand up on his own for a few seconds then fell forward. I have been in touch with the health visitor who will be doing an assessment with DS shortly and he is being referred to a physio. It is hard to see all his peers running about and they have been for some time now. I hope that DS will be OK and that its just a case of him taking his time, its been really useful reading everyone's comments!

cory Tue 18-Mar-08 16:39:03

My dd didn't walk until 19 months, but in her case it was because she turned out to have a joint disorder- only found that out 6 years later though. Might be worth letting somebody have a look at your ds, Kellsie, to see if he is hypermobile. If he is, then things like the right kind of shoes and simple exercises can help to strengthen his ankles.
But most likely he's just a bit slow to reach this particular stage.

jeenz Wed 14-May-08 22:08:00

I am so glad i found this site my daughter is 26 months old and not walking. she has had every test under the sun mri, bloods ,etc but they find nothing wrong the only thing they can say is she has poor muscle tone in her ankles and her joints are hypermobile . we had physio for a while but had to stop it because she was terrified of them!! she was late sitting alone etc she can bear weight and will stand if i stand her against something she will also walk if i hold her hands but will not stand up alone she will not pull herself up using furniture either.i am fed up of hearing the term she is a classic" bum shuffler". her speech and mental developement is fantastic but i just want her to walk its so hard explaining to people why she cant walk all the time .it kills me to see kids running aound in the park while she has to be carried and pushed everywhere.. will she ever walk?

cory Thu 15-May-08 15:01:15

She may well need specialist help, Jeenz. I would push for a referral to a rheumatologist.

My dd walked at 19 months but was always very unstable. She developed ankle pains when she was about 3, got really bad at 7. Turns out she has something known as Hypermobility Syndrome, where the hypermobility of her joints leads to chronic pain and frequent small injuries (like mini-dislocations and sprains). It also affects her sense of balance, so she falls easily. (Also leads to incontinence and chronic constipation).

She has been up and down tbh. She's done ballet and danced in shows- but also been through periods when she's not been able to walk at all.

The things that have helped her are physio, input from an Occupational therapist, supportive footwear and pacing- keeping active but never doing too much on any one day. As I can't drive, that means we do use a wheelchair when she is out and about, but she walks at home and at school.

Not saying this will happen to your dd, but if it does- you really need to push for treatment.

My ds (7) has the same hypermobility, but very few symptoms as yet.

The Hypermobility Syndrome Association has a very useful website+forum.

horseymum Thu 15-May-08 19:53:48

my ds was about 22 months i think before he walked- hv and doctor were not concerned. i asked for a paed referal at about 21 months i think but by the time it came through he was well away. Sympathise with having to carry though they do get heavy. He now has slightly turned out foot but hv not concerned, suggested lacing shoes as they can offer more support. It is not as obvious now but i will keep an eye on it. Dh has very pronounced turned out foot so maybe inevitable. Ds was great bum shuffler and talked very early. We go to minigym now which has improved his coordination and climbing, he is no different to his peers now, even though they have been walking for nearly a year longer!

jeenz Sat 31-May-08 18:46:38

thanks cory
will do! am seeing consultant again in july yes they did say she has hypermobility,think i might push for another physio if they can make it more fun for dd.they were talking about more tests too but what they could be i dont know they already did every test they can think of so fingers crossed.might also ask for another opinion from another doctor dont care if i have to take her to the end of the earth and back for it anything as long as it helps her... one last thing she does this weird flapping thing with her hands?? anyone come accross this?

yomellamoHelly Sat 31-May-08 19:21:41

Ds1 walked 6 weeks shy of his 2nd birthday. Sat at 8 months, crawled at 9.5 months. Would not weight-bear at all until 2 months before he walked.
Ds2 (now 17 months) is not sitting yet and won't weight-bear either but is super-chilled out. Nothing phases him he just wants to exchange smiles with anyone and everyone.
I didn't walk 'til I was 3. Nor did my husband. So they obviously take after us. (I didn't talk either 'til I was 4.5 and ds 1 was 1 month past his 3rd b'day before he started.)

lulurose Sat 31-May-08 19:51:38

My dd2 walked late at 25months, she was seen by the physio and I was told she was very hypermobile, she can turn her feet thro 90 degrees so they face to the side for example.

She was referred for Piedro boots but never needed them in the end. I did buy her clarks ancle boots though which gave the joint more support than the crawler/cruiser type shoes.

GreenElizabeth Sat 31-May-08 19:52:38

Tiger Woods didn't walk 'til he was 2.

asteamedpoater Sat 31-May-08 19:58:40

Hi, Jeenz,

My son is also hypermobile and hypotonic and also detested having physio, which he had from 15 months old (when he could sit if put in that position or lie on his back, but not much else gross motor-wise, not even rolling over). He was not delayed in other areas, just gross motor.

The physio stopped when he was about 23 months, which was when we got him walking. Without the physiotherapy (and some piedro boots to support his weak ankles) there is no way he could have made so much progress so quickly (well, that and his obsessional practising, ploughing up and down with a cart until he had the strength to walk by himself). So, I would recommend finding another physio, despite the upset it causes. My son's physio was great - she couldn't get much out of him at the actual sessions, but she got to see enough to work out what he needed to be working on each month and she taught me how to do the exercises with him. So, effectively, I became his physiotherapist under the tuition of a qualified physio!!! A million times better than getting no phsyio input at all...

As for arm or hand flapping, this may just be something she has found that she can enjoy (if you can't walk, you've got to find other means of stimulation and entertainment from time to time!!!). It is sometimes commented on in children who are dyspraxic (problems with motor co-ordination), who have issues with sensory integration (over or under-reacting to certain stimuli - eg noise, heat, textures) or autistic, but is not part of the diagnosis of such conditions (ie it's not in the list of things a child must do to be dyspraxic or autistic), and can also be done by normal children as part of a phase they are going through which they grow out of, so try not to read too much into it, if that's your daughter's only odd habit!

jeenz Sat 31-May-08 23:21:59

thanks asteamedpoater
for your dd was the same at 20 months old she couldnt even sit herself up unless we put her in that position then at 21 months she did it herself then started bum shuffling around herself and now moves pretty good ( ie hands knees etc). will get more physio for her. we were supposed to get boots for her but they never materialised,but will push for them.she too is not delayed in any other areas just gross motor. her previous physio said this was why she was finding it difficult to work with dd because she was too clever and understood she could hurt herself if she fell for the hand flapping thing friends and family have said the same as you, that she prob does it maybe because of frustation cause not walking or over excited.i did ask consultant on last visit about autism etc and hand flapping but he dismissed dd of having this because she showed no other signs or symptoms..

dizzysteph Sun 01-Jun-08 20:15:36

Im glad I found this thread too. My DD is 2 in a weeks time and hasnt walked or stood on her own yet either. She had an MRI scan and xray a couple of weeks ago and we are waiting for the results now. She is weight bearing though and will walk if I hold her up. Everyone keeps telling me not to worry but you do dont you? I feel Im going to be using a pushchair forever. (good for shopping though..looking on the bright side!)

jeenz Sun 01-Jun-08 20:38:57

hi steph
just wondering is she a bum shufler or crawler? as you dont say in your comment?
i know its difficult waiting on the results, but do try keep your chin up

dizzysteph Tue 03-Jun-08 21:01:43

Thanks Jeenz. She is a crawler though she has recently graduated to shuffling along on her knees. The physio says its good as she is building up her core strength.

jeenz Thu 05-Jun-08 23:02:59

my dd is a bum shuffler, we were told she would never crawl!! however she started doing this weird bunny hopping movement on her hands and knees and has crawled but only did this a couple of times she has also started putting one of her feet flat underneath her and pushing up with her hands although not to a standing position still on all fours. we have now restarted physio and she says its all good progress towards getting up.. still waiting to see consultant again at end of month though.
please let me know the results of your dd mri steph

Zep Fri 27-Jun-08 15:56:04

I'm so glad I've found this site.

My son is 18 months and not standing alone or walking. He has isolated gross motor delay. The paediatrician found his lower limbs to be hypotonic and she couldn't get any knee or ankle reflexes. He will be having blood tests and is being referred for physiotherapy.

She scared me half to death though because she mentioned cerebral palsy or a muscle disease. I've since been looking up muscular dystrophy and keep reading about Duchennes which sounds terrible.

dizzysteph Fri 04-Jul-08 13:40:01

Jeenz, the results are in and its what we thought it might be. Mild celebral palsy. her cousin has the same thing and they were both born prematurely. It seems to be just affecting her right side and its a waiting game to see how its going to affect her overall. Good news though, the physio thinks she is bearing more weight on her right foot and she is getting steadier all the time.

Still no walking yet though.

MABS Fri 04-Jul-08 13:58:57

my ds has mild left hemiplegic cp, walked at 3,he was a 27 weeker. He's now 7 and came 3rd in a race at sports day last week,says it all really! Never give up hope x

Flissrose Tue 08-Jul-08 10:57:12

Hi everyone, it's great to see I'm not the only one with a late walker. My daughter is 22 months old and still not walking. She bottom shuffles and will pull herself up on one knee. If I try to get her to stand she will for a second and then drops down onto her bottom. She has been checked at hospital and had blood tests and they have found nothing wrong thankfully. They say it is famial as I bottom shuffled, my other daughter did and my husband didn't walk till he was two, my other daughter 18 months. It doesn't stop me worrying though or my back aching from lifting her all the time.I give her cushions to jump about on and roll and take her swimming, she has shoes and I get her to bounce to music on the bed, but don't know what else to do.At the back Of my mind I'm always worried there is someting wrong. has anyone got any suggestions??

dizzysteph Tue 08-Jul-08 19:25:47

Mabs, thank you so much for your message, its just what I needed to hear.

Looks like I'll be using that pushchair for another year grin

katedan Wed 09-Jul-08 14:33:05

Hi Flissrose.

Just wanted to let you know ou are not alone. My DD is 19 months and not walking, her ID twin has walked for the last couple of months. She crawled at 10mths and pulled up and walked holding on by 11 months but has not progressed. We have an appt at the ospiartl at the end of the month but I really don't know what to think. Mt DS did not walk untill 18 mths but he was a bum shuffler and we were told this can lead to late walking. I was determined to not worry but I never thought we would get to summer and she would not walk. It is very hard and I guess we will have to see what the hospital appt brings up. It seems to be so rare for a child to not walk past 16 mths and there is not much written about it.

asteamedpoater Wed 09-Jul-08 17:29:06

katedan, I think you will find it isn't very unusual for a child to walk later than 16 months. More rare later than 18 months, and very rare indeed later than 2 years if there is nothing wrong.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with my younger son, who walked at 17 months - he's actually rather physically able. My other son walked just before 23 months and he has low muscle tone (no diagnosed cause - there frequently isn't...), but his grandfather walked after the age of 2 and had no motor problems whatsoever in later life - he was, in fact, a very good tennis player and no-one could beat him at billiards...

Did your DD have trouble with her other gross motor skills? Apart from being a bit on the late side with the early ones, my younger son didn't, but it was just so obvious to me from a very early age that his older brother did have a problem - he was obviously bright in all other ways, but couldn't even roll over at 15 months, let alone get himself from lying to sitting, bottom shuffle, crawl, pull to standing, etc. Even with that rather troublesome start on the gross motor skills front, my DS, now 4, can skip and jump and run - the only things he still finds a bit of an effort are cycling up a slope and climbing stairs without the help of bannisters.

So, please try not to worry about the more serious possibilities (I know it's difficult - I used to cry myself to sleep, worrying about my eldest DS and why he couldn't get about, despite his obvious desire to). Usually, it turns out to be something that in the long term doesn't add up to anything that serious.

gidigal Thu 17-Jul-08 22:12:57

wow, i can't believe there are other people going through what i am going through. my younger son is 25 months old and still requires assistance when walking. he won't even stand on his own. he'll bend at the knees when he thinks we are about to let go, and as soon as we let go, he drops. he's stood on his own a few times, although he gets quite upset or is too preoccupied to know that he is standing on is own. he is unable to stand up on his own, which concerned his pediatrician (who, btw, did not walk until he was past the age of 2). we have to see a neurologist in a month's time. i just hate having to explain to people when they see him crawling around (and boy, does he move fast!) it's always the same speech.. "yes, he's 2 years old and no, he isn't walking yet." i just want him to have a happy, healthy life, and i am such a worrier as it is...does anyone have any good exercises for me to try with him while we wait for his appointments? any ideas would be helpful. thank you to everyone who has posted on tis website...i feel less alone, and certainly know how you feel. we all just want the best for our children...

Zep Sat 26-Jul-08 09:01:57

Hello gidigal

My son has hypotonia (low muscle tone in his legs) and isn't standing alone without holding onto something or walking.

He is having physio and I have exercises to do with him. I can post them if you like.

DRAGON30 Sat 26-Jul-08 09:57:07

Hi Gidigal. Have you tried walking with reins on, and letting him push the buggy? That way, he's supported, has something to concentrate on, and is not walking with one hand stretched above his head - NOT a good idea for balance/ posture etc. I have a daughter with Hypermobility, and I posted on the other recent 'walking' thread about exercises etc. DD1 started walking by either holding the buggy, or the curved handle on a folding umbrella -I had the other end! This kept her hands lower, and gave her confidence.

Symesy Wed 13-Aug-08 22:20:00

Hi to all, I just wanted to add my support to all mums out there with late walkers. My son didn't start to walk alone until he was 21 months and, like others on this page, I was worried, wondered what was wrong. He'd had all the tests UK hospitals can offer, scans, x-rays, blood tests. My son was able to do the splits (I think he probably still can), and had hypotonia in his hips. Also his muscle tone was poor in his legs, ankles and hip areas. A few weeks before he started to walk, he hurt his foot - pulled muscles in one of his feet, which held us back again. Eventually he did it, but he can be stubborn, and sometimes refuse to walk, even though he can do it. Since his walking has started, he's found new independence and with that the Terrible Two's have well and truly started - tantrums!! My doctor told us that his kids didn't walk until 22 months old - wish he'd told me that at the start of our investigations, would've made me feel much better!

Flissrose Wed 27-Aug-08 10:40:46

Hi,great not to feel so alone, would love to recieve the exercises, could you post them on this website? Many thanks fliss

scattyspice Wed 27-Aug-08 16:42:44

Emab (and others) my dd didn't walk at all (unaided) until 2.3 and didn't walk regularly (ie still preferred to bumshuffle) until 2.6. We saw Peads who said there was no reason and it would happen by itself (which it did). Late walkers tend to be bumshfflers.

She is now 3.4 and still abit unsteady (especially steps) but has recently started running and is gradually walking further.

Try not to worry, it will happen.

Flissrose Wed 19-Nov-08 20:32:36

Hi,just wanted to say mt daughter has started to walk she is 2yrs 2 months, a long wait but worth it, she is a bottom shuffler and still shuffles if she's tired. So just to say really try not to worry too much they do walk when they are ready.

terib Wed 21-Jan-09 20:10:19

hi, im new i hope someone can help my two year old daughter who has downs will not weightbear she never has im becoming very worried she has lots of physio but still nothing

wrinklytum Wed 21-Jan-09 20:16:58

Hi terib might be worth posting in Special Needs section of this site.

My dd couldn't walk or crawl at 2 but after physio and having a mobility aid (Kaye walker) she took her first independent steps at 3 sO DON'T GIVE UP HOPE,

(She doesn't have ds but other sn)

The little girl at dd SN group with Downs but is not yet weightbearing or walking,I am sure it will come it just feels like forever when you see all their peers running around and your child is stillrooted to the floor

Welcome to Mumsnet

Hi terib, my son is also downs. He has severe hypotonia and more. He didn't stand or start to walk until he was nearly 5 years old. Average for downs is around 2yrs. He is now nearly 8 and still hates walking. He only goes about 10 yds before he sits down. Don't worry it will come. I always thought it wouldn't. Mind the physios had only ever known one more who didn't walk before 4. Have you got the blue badge, parking for disabled. If not you can get this at 2 year old. I literally just carried him in and plonked him on the floor, the half an hour or so that we were there he didn't move so it was issued instantly. LOL. Hope this helps.

msupa Wed 20-Jan-10 13:56:10

What a relief to find so many mums whose kids do not walk either. My son is 19 months old - started to bottomshuffle at 16 month, crawling (badly) even later than that. He can bear his weight and cruise ok and occasionally can even pull himself up. He also just learned to climb up the stairs. All fine otherwise.
It is so awful watching (what seems like) every child on the planet walking and running around, while my son is still shuffling on his bottom.
Is there anyone in London's SW6 who has the same problem? If so, please let me know - I am dying to talk to someone with a similar issue and not to hear: do you make sure he has lots of opportunity to walk/climb/run!

moomoomalarky Wed 20-Jan-10 20:06:50

My dd walked at 20 months and was crawling from 15 months so another late starter. I wish I'd seen a thread like this when we were going through all the stress of 'will she ever walk or won't she'. It must be reassuring you I hope, EMAB to find so many others in the same boat.

My dd has low muscle tone in her trunk and had physio almost from birth as she was starved of oxygen. She is very, very determined though and now at 2.5 walks ok most of the time, is running (albeit strangely!) and is just about able to jump! We've been told she probably won't be a ballerina when she grows up but hey ho!

marj8 Wed 03-Mar-10 18:55:39

Hi Msupa
I am in sw5, have an 18 month son who is not walking. Crawled late, is cruising but not interested in walking. Sees physios and has had lots of tests but so far we have just been told he has "muscle imbalance"
am just round the corner so do get in touch if you want to talk more. Am glad that i found this thread as completely understand how you feel - so frustrating seeing everyone else's kids running around.

Phoenix4725 Thu 04-Mar-10 06:35:49

i to have a ds who did not walk till 3 but does still struggle now , he uses a wheelcahir most of the time .But he is and was always way behind physically he has hypermoblity and low muscle tone and as yet undx disablity !!

The main key is to get as much support as you can ot/physio and mumsnet to blow steam of and get support for yourself

yomellamoHelly Thu 04-Mar-10 06:49:09

My first ds walked 6 weeks shy of his 2nd birthday. Always v behind on the curve developmentally. Aged 6 he is fine - still behind emotionally I think.
Thought ds2 (now 3 1/4) was same. Was always SO chilled, laid back and happy. At 3 he doesn't walk either and needs a lot of support to weight-bear. We were told at 18 months he has cerebal palsy.
In your situation I think I'd be looking for a second opinion on the physio front privately. Our experience has been that the NHS service lacks decent therapists with relevant experience who will come off the fence and tell us where ds2 is struggling and what, if anything, we can do about it. Wouldn't be without the help we found - though obviously everyone is different.

yomellamoHelly Thu 04-Mar-10 06:52:07

Oops - Just seen how long this thread has been going! Tis the time of day! Sorry

marj8 Thu 04-Mar-10 10:08:42

yomellamohelly, how did they diagnose your ds2 with CP? That is what I think may be the issue with my son, have repeatedly asked physios and consultants but no one willing to commit. He had heart op at 2 months old and is still very underweight so that may also be contributing to developmental delay. Am going to go down route of getting prviate physio tho as don't think seeing an NHS physio once a week every 3 weeks is enough.

ilovesprouts Thu 04-Mar-10 10:11:58

hi my ds2 whos now 3 walked at 2.6 but has gdd ,now hes all over the place

mintyfresh Thu 04-Mar-10 20:30:05

marj8 - from our experience, CP is usually diagnosed following an MRI scan and obvious signs that muscles have been affected by brain injury. However, not all variations of 'normal' muscle tone lead to CP i.e. it is possible to have low tone and not have CP iyswim. It has to affect motor milestones fairly significantly before they diagnose and more often than not, they will be cautious as some children may just be delayed.

Beckstarbee Thu 06-Sep-12 21:24:45

For those of you out there who are stressed about a late walker... I have so been there, but just yesterday my beautiful 23 month old girl stood up and started walking quite well!! She was late at everything but excelled in her fine motor skills and talking too. We took her to physio starting at 13 months and right after that she started to bum scoot. At around 18 months, she all of a sudden started crawling and climbing stairs and also learned to pull herself up to a sitting and standing position. She took her first steps at 21 months and then for some reason decided to stop progressing and we became quite worried. We took her to a pediatrician at 22 months and were told that she would not walk until well after her first birthday. He was quite discouraging and sent a referral to neurology. Well, the next day, we got video of her walking from one couch to another and we were so thrilled. She's always been very stubborn and gts frusterated easily. At 23 months now, she can do it all. We were amazed when I asked her to walk yesterday and she just stood up and did it! Incredible feeling. I can relate to those of you who have been watching all these 9-11 month olds walking and just so people know, that is considered early, not the norm. People questioned me all the time on whether she was healthy or not and failed to see all the positives with her, like the early talking and fine motor skills she had. I wish we could all just see the beauty in our children instead of comparing them to one another. It really is silly. Children really do things at thier own pace. Don't let anyone tell you different. Your child is unique and special. But on a different note, do what you think is best for your child, if you are concerned, get a referral to a doctor. We are parents, and we know what's best for our children.

MomHopeful Thu 03-Jan-13 18:59:03

Found the message string about late walkers. So glad I did, my daughter (26 mo) was born with a cleft palate (surgery done at 14 mo) and didn't get much tummy time. & is catching up on her speach (when she wants to). She refuses to "traditionally" crawl and bum scoots instead. She finally started "wanting" to walk around on her own (with us following close by) using her walker toy, but that only lasts for a short time until she is tired or bored & she will walk with us helping hold her. She will stand against things like the furniture or toys just fine but doesn't want to stand alone, pull to a stand or walk around the furniture. She is otherwise healthy and very happy and will talk clearly when she chooses to, but that delay is expected due to her CP during her 1st year. I'm glad to know I'm not alone. Also my first 2 kids walked by 1 year and did the "traditional crawl" so I feel I'm having to toss the so called parenting handbook out the window and start fresh.

Annholls Fri 13-Jun-14 15:48:35

Hi there, I know it's been a long time since you posted this but I know a child with exact same issues at 2 yrs old now and no one can say what the cause it. I was just wondering if you got any answers and what your outcome was. Thank you in advanced.

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