What exactly is hyperactiveness?

[DevilsAdvocado]

Is it real? (Well, I know it's real, but can it also be used as an excuse for lots of things?)

What causes it?

And what age is it diagnosed at?

[terrywogan]

ofte goes with attention deficit disorder, adhd...
but i cannot explain why teenagers with this behaviour = their parents use their adhd as an excuse for ginger knocking - etc. etc.

[DevilsAdvocado]

Right.

We were behind a woman [well, a he/she] in Primark today, and dd who is 6 was eating a packet of those yoghurt covered raisin/fruity things.

The little girl who was with the woman was standing talking to dd and dd offered her a raisin. I said "Perhaps you better ask her mum love" But the little girl had taken the raisin yoghurty thing and had almost put it in her mouth.

The mum snapped it off her and threw it on the floor. She looked at me and said "Shes not allowed stuff like that, shes hyperactive enough without it!"

The little girl just looked really really said.

I do know that these things happen, but to me it seemed like she just didn't want her to have it! I know when dd was a baby I told MIL that almost everything made her hyper when in fact I didn't even know what "hyper" was

I just feel sorry for the poppet and my dd was hugely embarrassed As was I when I had to walk up the queue [and not because it was Primark]

[coppertop]

Hyperactivity can be caused by any number of things, including diet. It can also feature as part of other SNs, including If anyone is genuinely interested in the causes then scroll down
here If not then feel free to continue blaming the parents.....

[DevilsAdvocado]

Coppertop, I most certainly was not blaming the parents.

I merely wondered if this particular lady had simply not wanted her child to accept a raisin from my dd.

that's all.

[elasticbandstand]

well i used t ban smarties, but aparently they have now taken out the additives...

[coppertop]

Sorry, DA. I was just referring to the other comments on this thread like:

its used by many people as an excuse for bad baehavuuior

(and lazy parenting too ime)

their parents use their adhd as an excuse for ginger knocking - etc. etc.

[coppertop]

And no, in case anyone is wondering, I don't have a hyperactive child. I have one who is probably at the highest end of the scale for normal but he's not clinically hyperactive. I just hate seeing/hearing the parents being blamed or told they're using it as an excuse for bad behaviour. (Again, not you, DA)

[tallulah]

coppertop thanks for that- I was going to add something a lot ruder

[coppertop]

You're more than welcome, Tallulah.

[DevilsAdvocado]

So, could the 2 year old who accepted the sweet, not just have been your average 2yr old, but her mum didn't want her to have it, so told me she was hyperactive?

She was so good [at that time anyway]

[elasticbandstand]

but why should that excuse their ginger knocking, it is attention deficit hyperactivit disorder??

[mummytosteven]

I would be astounded if a 2 year old had an official diagnosis of ADHD, they are not quick or easy to get for toddlers! Either it was an excuse, or the mum thinks that the kid has a sugar rush and misbehaves at the tiniest bit of sweet stuff.

[coppertop]

Girls can have ADHD but the 2yr-old wouldn't have had a dx. Sometimes I describe ds2 as being "hyper" but I wouldn't say he was genuinely hyperactive.

Some children do react in that way to additives, sugar, gluten etc but obviously I have no idea whether the 2yr-old was one of those children.

[gess]

DA- it sounds like the mum was being precious about sugar coated raisins. "she's hyperactive enough without it" is nothing like "she has ADHD". Hyperactive- vague term meaning child leaps around alot and acts like a - well a young child, ADHD- officially diagmosed by a professional can be helped by medication, has physiological differences to non-ADHD children.

[gess]

I quite often say one of the kids has gone hyper- doesn't mean I think any of them have ADHD- they don't- thank god - (and even though I have a severely autistic child - I really mean- thank god- partly because ADHD is so difficult to deal with and partly because the parents get unfairly blamed all the time).

[Frascati]

FFS

JulietFarkinBravo on Thu 17-May-07 21:39:26
(and lazy parenting too ime)


Just thank your lucky stars you have a "nt" child.

How dare you be so insulting.

Would you say the same about a child with diabetes, epilepsy etc. I think not.

You really need to go and have a word with yourself honestly.............

[crispyduck]

Agree tallulah...maybe someone wants to borrow my 11 yr old without his wonderful slow release tablet...

[Frascati]

jfb ~ is that you cod?

[misdee]

seems like she didnt want her dd to have the yoghurt raisan.

dd2 is my 'hyper' one, she doesnt need any extra additives in her diet, we keep things simple for her, is allowed choc, not smarties, even if they have taken out the artificial colours, or anything brightly coloured. we turn down haribo due to dd1 skin reactions. i have noticed a difference in dd2 with the new diet, but still has her moments. even bananas send her off on one.

[DevilsAdvocado]

Would rasins Misdee?

I just wondered at the time, I am not disputing the fact that it is real IYKWIM

[elasticbandstand]

perjhaps she didnt actually know what they were

[gess]

I suspect child was PFB and she didn't want her to have the raisin as your dd had touched it or something equally ridiculous.

Ds1 and ds3 go hyper on sweetners, but not a raisin.

[misdee]

i cant get dd2 to eat raisans, yoghurt covered or not.

but can tell when she has had bananas as she goes loooopy.