Calling mum's of 2 year old NT daughters

(63 Posts)
Babieseverywhere Sat 16-Aug-14 12:15:25

Just wondering if you could answer a few questions

1. How many verbal words does your daughter use ?

2. Would she ignore you, if you call her name ?

3. How difficult or easy is it to strap her into car seat/pram ?

4. How much and how loudly does your daughter scream ?

5. Would your daughter play on their own for half an hour or take themselves upstairs to bed ?

6. Does your daughter get very upset if you are not around, even when daddy is with them ?

7. Anything else you want to tell me that NT two year old girls do or don't do.

Ihateparties Sat 16-Aug-14 12:30:37

Dd2 is 2y6m
1. Too many to count
2. 25% of the time she would ignore
3. Not difficult 95% of time for car seat. Pram don't use so much anymore but she can normally be persuaded in verbally.
4. Not much at all and not loudly (lacks persistence for screaming)
5. Half an hour is pushing it I think, she will play alone for approx 10-15 mins at a time. Would not take self to bed.
6. Prefers me to be here but essentially not too bothered.
7. The answers I would give for one of her siblings at the same age would be massively different, the other not so much and (as far as I know) they are all NT. Imo the things you have covered can vary hugely at 2, ie not unusual behaviours in themselves but more the extent to which you are experiencing them? Also your questions didn't cover the stuff my current 2yo does do that's problematic.

beccajoh Sat 16-Aug-14 12:33:04

What's NT?

mrscog Sat 16-Aug-14 12:45:53

Um well I have a DS - do you really think boys and girls are that different? Assuming you didn't mean to be so sexist, here are my answers -

1. How many verbal words does your child daughter use ? Now at 2.5 100's, at 2 probably 100.

2. Would they she ignore you, if you call her their name ? It would depend on if he was engrossed in an activity or not, if his attention was elsewhere, probably 75% of the time. If not I probably would get his attention.

3. How difficult or easy is it to strap her them into car seat/pram ? Depends, he is and always has been very willfull. If he wants to go in it's easy, if he doesn't want to go in it is practically impossible.

4. How much and how loudly does your daughter child scream ? Umm, quite a lot, volume depends.

5. Would your daughter child play on their own for half an hour or take themselves upstairs to bed ? He might just about play on his own for 1/2 hour, but more like 15-20 mins as a max. He does sometimes go and get in our bed (he's still in a cot so can't get in his own), but this is more of a game than 'going to bed'.

6. Does your daughter child get very upset if you are not around, even when daddy is with them ? No.

7. Anything else you want to tell me that NT two year old girls do or don't do
Can't really answer this as I don't really know what else you want.

Babieseverywhere Sat 16-Aug-14 12:54:22

NT means Neurological Typical I.e. without special needs.

Babieseverywhere Sat 16-Aug-14 12:57:21

mrscog I wanted responses about daughters, as I have been told by various sources...HV, Senco, doctor that there is a big difference in how boys and girls develop (I don't actually believe that myself but wanted information to reassure myself)

eatscakefornoreasonwhatsoever Sat 16-Aug-14 12:59:55

I would have to second - why girls only? You do know they're not a different species right?

eatscakefornoreasonwhatsoever Sat 16-Aug-14 13:00:30

Ah. Fair enough. Will answer later when I have more time

I have a ds 2.2

1-don't know how many but massive vocabulary, just talks like a child and easy to understand now

2 - if he is doing something it's very hard to get his attention or even if he is planning on doimg something e.g. running away to get somewhere then he won't listen...he very much has his own agenda. In fact the only time he will answer to his name is if it's followed by something he wants e.g. ds would you like a biscuit...which is obviously very rarely!

3-depends on how tired he is mostly, if he knows we are going somewhere he is happy with going he's easy to get in either if not he's very strong and it's very hard probably only 25pc of the time hard as I've learned ways of distraction to get him in, but it always takes persuasion, bribery or distraction

4 a good few times a day less if he's been run around outside enough

5 - yes he plays on his own happily for hours and hours, but we don't have a tv so he's always been used to doing this and so has a great attention span...will tell me when hes tired and go and get in bed yes.

6- no not really.

7 - like what? What's the issue you are having?

DownByTheRiverside Sat 16-Aug-14 13:00:40

You can be NT with special needs. confused
Neurotypical means not on the autistc spectrum, not ADHD, dyslexic, bipolar...

GreySpaceInvaders Sat 16-Aug-14 13:02:21

DD is 2y 9m for reference.
1) I have no idea, she chatters on all the time. People regularly comment on how much she chatters on. She was slightly later to start talking than her brother, but picked up vocab faster than he did.
2) She will usually respond to her name when called, even if she is engrossed in something. She might not always come to you, but she will respond with a "yes mummy" "no, I'm building a tower" type response.
3) No buggy anymore, but getting into the car seat is fine. She climbs in from the other side and climbs into her seat. Then she will sit there until her dad straps her in, shouting at him if he goes to open his door without doing her straps up.
4) she just doesn't scream, which I take as a reward for putting up with my sons tantrums smile
5) Will happily play on her own for half an hour, but still has a whole bedtime routine involving stories, singing, cuddles and climbing out of bed for one last cuddle before settling down.
6) Nothing really upsets her, she is happy with me, with her dad, with her granny etc.

DownByTheRiverside Sat 16-Aug-14 13:09:12

1. How many verbal words does your daughter use ?
Huge vocabulary

2. Would she ignore you, if you call her name ?
No, never.

3. How difficult or easy is it to strap her into car seat/pram ?
Easy unless she really wanted to do something else.

4. How much and how loudly does your daughter scream ?
Very little, unless she was cross about something and then it was more of a roar of fury with extended explanations.

5. Would your daughter play on their own for half an hour or take themselves upstairs to bed ?
Yes

6. Does your daughter get very upset if you are not around, even when daddy is with them ?
No, happy and confident with strangers as well as friends and relatives.

7. Anything else you want to tell me that NT two year old girls do or don't do.

She has Asperger's syndrome, but wasn't given a dx until much later on. Just thought your OP was a bit odd, many NT girls don't get a dx for years

Babieseverywhere Sat 16-Aug-14 13:13:50

Thanks for the correction DownByTheRiverside

NotCitrus Sat 16-Aug-14 13:15:47

Dd is 2.6. Dn is diagnosed autistic and ds may get assessed as such, though likely not quite.
1.A few hundred, though so did the boys. All more verbal than most at their nurseries.
2. Yes, when she is doing something more interesting, like running away.
3. Not bad, but I don't do it much - cars are treats and I only strap in buggy at a station or if she's tried to run off.
4. She has just discovered the shrieking tantrum... She is more high pitched than ds but doesn't have his commitment and staying power. Dn never tantrumed much, just quietly refused to cooperate, as does ds - he rapidly learnt the sit-down protest was more effective and less work.
5. Once in a blue moon. Though happy to agree to go to bed, mostly.
6. Apparently so, though I get the hours of "want Daddy!"
7. She definitely is not on the AS spectrum, whereas theboys and I are - until she got better at talking I used to say my kids were mini-me and the adorable alien - she is interested in people, what they do, how to act in different situations and how to charm people. Ds is sociable but not in that way, and lot more cautious about new places, textures, sensations etc. She will dive in.

beccajoh Sat 16-Aug-14 13:15:52

DD is 2y1m.

1. I don't have an actual word count but we get 4-5 word sentences, constant narrative of what's going on around her (in context, logical), speech is clear, she seems to have more words than other children of her age (my sample base is the rest of my NCT group).

2. Yes a fair bit. Probably 50/50 as to whether she'll respond.

3. Easy. It's rare she resists.

4. She doesn't really scream, but does shout "ACK" when we're telling her off about something. She's quite loud generally. Happy/excited shouting mostly.

5. Yes she will play independently for a long time, although she likes company but doesn't always need someone to play with her Has taken herself to bed on her own a few times. About 80% of the time she'll go upstairs to bed if we prompt her (or bribe with milk!) It's rare that we have to carry her up because she won't go.

6. No not really. She's fine with people she knows well.

7. She's a very physical child. Good coordination, agile, not scared of climbing things.

Babieseverywhere Sat 16-Aug-14 13:22:44

I posted this thread because at a routine two year check this week, the HV unexpectedly referred our daughter to Comm paed and for a hearing test.

I was concerned that DD3 only said maybe 4 words and ignores me a great deal but reckoned she would catch up.

I am not bothered about the constant high pitch screaming, which I reckon is link to lack if speech atm. Throwing herself at the floor tandrums. Playing on her own and missing me when I leave. I think these are typical toddler behaviour.

It was so unexpected to be referred, I should of questioned the point at the time

1. Couldn't possibly count

2. If she was up to no good or engrossed in something

3. Depends. Car seat ok but only goes in pushchair (occasionally) if I promise no straps

4. Think Boeing 747 any time DD1 annoys her.

5. Yes

6. Not really, she's a daddy's girl anyway.

7. Eat everything in sight, help themselves to whatever they want in the kitchen hmm, climb on everything, pull keys off my laptop, pinch my phone etc etc.

YouGotTime Sat 16-Aug-14 13:36:10

2 years 2 months

1 - too many to count. My 3 year old son has a speech delay. I am amazed and fascinated at the difference in their language.

2 - mostly she will acknowledge her name though - unless she knows I am going to sake her to stop doing something she wants to do.

3 - sometimes fine but mostly a nightmare of screaming and fighting with her trying to hit/bite/scratch me whilst sobbing uncontrollably and wailing no mummy no, as she pulls her arms out of the seatbelt as fast as I can put them in and holding her body rigid. Such fun for us all.

4 - extremely loudly and if she was feeling sufficiently thwarted I honestly think she could scream without end.

5 - would never in a million years take herself to bed.

6 - there was a time when this was true but not now, she loves being with OH (unless she was really upset or it was the middle of the night and she is beginning to settle for him in those situations too a little)

Babieseverywhere Sat 16-Aug-14 13:43:45

Well I can see my DD3's speech is behind by a billion words but the rest of her behaviour us pretty standard.

Forgot to add, DD3 wouldn't/couldn't point at her nose, eyes etc on herself or a doll. But that isn't a big deal. Especially as she is pretty bright, DD3 can already climb up on top of the toy kitchen in her room and use the mouse to select and play a film off the media box (not necessarily the one she wants...she can't read yet!)

jaybirdsinginginthedeadofnight Sat 16-Aug-14 19:32:06

A speech delay would explain the not pointing at body parts smile My DD is speech delayed she's 2.4 and has about 30words now, she has only just in the last month consistently started pointing at her own body parts and on other people etc

jaybirdsinginginthedeadofnight Sat 16-Aug-14 19:38:51

To answer the other things
2. She responds to her name about 70% of the time.
3 fine going into car seat, buggy etc climbs into buggy herself.
4 Doesn't scream a lot, mostly at DS when he's got something she wants.
5 Will play alone for 15mins maybe, but happy to play with others too.
6. total Daddy's girl, infact I came in from work the other night all she had to say to me was 'errs Daddy?' (Where's daddy) sad

ThermoLobster Sat 16-Aug-14 19:46:02

I am being lazy not answering your questions, but DD1 only had about 4 words at 2, and nobody was concerned, apart from me and there was no talk of a referral. At 5 she is now a chatterbox and was at expected level at the end of reception year. Hope all turns out ok.

Iggly Sat 16-Aug-14 21:13:11

1. How many verbal words does your daughter use? loads

2. Would she ignore you, if you call her name ? only if she's busy

3. How difficult or easy is it to strap her into car seat/pram ? very difficult unless you let her climb in

4. How much and how loudly does your daughter scream ? er when she is annoyed. Can be once a day or not at all

5. Would your daughter play on their own for half an hour or take themselves upstairs to bed ? no and no. She doesn't do sleep unless I'm there. Ds was the same

6. Does your daughter get very upset if you are not around, even when daddy is with them ? yes but calms down

7. Anything else you want to tell me that NT two year old girls do or don't do.

chocisonabikinidiet Sat 16-Aug-14 21:38:08

OP, one of my DDs has autism and one NT. I had a massive battle to get her referred abd diagnosed even though she is severely affected. good on your HV for picking up on things.

Don't beat yourself up for not questioning the referral. hopefully all is well and you then can relax and won't have to worry anymore. and if your Dd has delays she needs support with, then the sooner they are picked up the better. early intervention can make a huge difference.

Babieseverywhere Sat 16-Aug-14 22:15:15

Thanks choc, you are right...either it is nothing or something but either way it is better to know for sure.

Just sad as I have already got several appointments coming up for 6 yo DS who has asd traits and struggles getting to school. Now there will be a couple more for DD3, sigh.

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