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How do you keep a 2 year old in their bed

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allatsea · 07/06/2006 20:19

About 6 weeks ago we put ds (2.5yrs) in a bed since he was able to get out of his cot with toys, a blanket and still wearing his growbag. I expected that he'd spend a couple of nights exploring his new found freedom in his bedroom. It is now weeks of him getting out of bed and trying to play with whatever is in his room. This is not very much - no toys, no books. It is currently taking anywhere between half an hour and an hour for him to settle down and go to sleep. Please someone suggest something I could try.

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GeorginaA · 07/06/2006 20:22

I can only really suggest what we did with ds1 which was he wasn't allowed out of his room, but he was allowed to play with what he wanted to until he was ready to go to bed. Especially with the lighter evenings.

It's a bit of a "you can lead a horse to the water" scenario.

Half hour sounds fairly good to me, tbh, as long as you can leave him to it in that time. Is he well rested in the morning? You can always bring bedtime forward half an hour if you feel he needs more sleep.

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edam · 07/06/2006 20:25

We have a similar problem with ds, except he's nearly three so I really wasn't expecting it to happen now. Arrggh. Is taking up to an hour and a half for him to go to sleep every night. Only ds gets out of his room - one of us has to stay next door and keep putting him back. Very wearing.

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Elibean · 07/06/2006 20:27

Agree with Georgina, really. dd is 2.5, and since the evenings have got lighter she will 'play' in bed for up to an hour. She doesn't actually get out, she moves around on the bed inventing stories using one or two cuddly toys and herself - but tbh, it amounts to much the same!
As long as he's rested enough, and not coming out of his room, that doesn't sound too bad to me.
In dd's case, I've actually moved her bedtime forward half an hour - she wasn't tired enough!

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allatsea · 07/06/2006 20:29

The first week all he did was run out of his room into his sister's room, downstairs etc. He does now stay in his room, and often just sits behind the door looking out. He has even fallen asleep lying behind the door. Part of me knows that there is nothing we can do to keep him in bed, but it is so frustrating and such a time killer!

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hotmama · 07/06/2006 20:34

Could you put a stairgate in his doorway? - he could still play in his room and see out but he couldn't escape.

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sugarfree · 07/06/2006 20:39

We've got a stairgate across Ds3s bedroom door.(He's been in a bed for about 4 weeks now.)
He does tend to play for a while but tbh I don't put kids to bed because they're tired,it's because I am.So as long as he's quietly occupied in his room it's good to me.
(Same goes for Ds1(12) and Ds2(6))

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southeastastra · 07/06/2006 20:49

how about some glow stars on the ceiling that he could lie in bed and look at, i got my son a spoka light from ikea and he loves looking at that, it sort of mesmerises him to sleep.

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madchad · 07/06/2006 21:08

Book on CD or tape (placed up high!)
Starchart?

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allatsea · 07/06/2006 21:39

OK, so tonight it's been 2 hours and counting and he's absolutely hysterical. I was beginning to think that he was just playing a game, checking that we were still there. DH & I decided that as long as he was in his room then that was ok so we put a door stop under his door to stop ds from opening it and then he lost it and has been sobbing for an hour, even with me in the room with him to go outside

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southeastastra · 07/06/2006 22:09

has he calmed down now? i remember it took few weeks for ds to get used to being in a bed.

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allatsea · 07/06/2006 22:50

he eventually went off after 2 1/2 hours.
I'm beginning to dread tomorrow night already. I think he comes to the door to check that someone is there -
We're thinking that tomorrow night we will shut his door so he can't keep peeking around it, and if he opens it, silently lead him back to his bed.

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hunkermunker · 07/06/2006 22:52

Oh this is a thread I will watch with HUGE interest since DS2 is fast outgrowing his crib and NEEDS the cot DS1 is still in!

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Lact8 · 07/06/2006 22:55

Have you thought of trying a stair gate? We have one on ds2 (2) door. He can't wander around but isn't completely shut in IYSWIM

It took me until I was about 9 to be able to sleep with my door closed and would panic if anyone closed it accidentally

DS2 just gone in big boy bed. He is fussing more than when he was in his cot. I ignore it for first half hr or so. THen I go up and tell him he can ahve a small drink, a story and then sleep. He usually calms after that but has fallen asleep on the floor every night so far Smile

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olivia35 · 07/06/2006 22:58

Ds (now 22 months) has been in a bed from 16 months (quite young, but dd was on the way & didn't want to buy a 2nd cot, or turf him out of his when dd arrived).

We have a stairgate across his doorway - some nights he will come to the gate & bellow 1-3 times whereupon one of us goes up & tucks him back in. Sometimes (inc. tonight) he plays in his room for anywhere up to an hour - so long as he's quiet & happy that's fine!

You could try the stairgate - not as scary as a shut door?

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frogs · 07/06/2006 23:02

Ah yes, we're here too atm.

With my older two I just put a stairgate across the door and left them to it. Dd1 used to fall asleep on the floor quite often, or ontop of a pile of lego, sometimes.

Dd2 went into a bed a few months ago after she managed to destroy her cot by excessive bedroom tantrums. She loved her big girl's bed at first, but has just spent a week staying at my mum's, where she discovered climbing out of bed in a major way. The last few nights have been a bit of a mare. Locking her in is not my avenue of choice since it drives her into a frenzy, plus she shares a room with her older brother, so not really an good solution. I've resorted to doing a Dr Tanya Byron, just picking her up and putting her back in bed each time.

I think the crucial thing is not to feed it by any kind of reaction -- my mum pretty much brought the problem on herself (and us) by doing a big routine of settling her each time she was out of bed, which is obviously v. rewarding, and encourages her to do more of the same. Getting angry is obviously not quite as rewarding for them, but is still a reaction. I'm hoping that if we keep it neutral she'll eventually get bored. I've also taken to checking up on her every 10 mins or so, and if she's still lying in bed she gets a kiss and a pat, if she's out of bed or playing in bed she just gets put back in.

It is quite time-consuming, but after a few nights she's starting to flag -- we only had one return to bed tonight, and a few instances where she'd managed to pull toys/books into bed with her.

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allatsea · 07/06/2006 23:08

I haven't seen Tanya Byron deal with this - does she just pick up and put pack in bed or is there some carrying and lying down, if you know what I mean. We initially decided against the gate because we wanted ds to be able to stay in his room by himself, and not be limited by the gate, but we have turned in to door police anyway. I think that he may well be able to climb over the gate if he put his mind to it since he slipped out of his cot so easily. Every night I think that this will be better, but 6/7 weeks in it's as bad as ever

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lizziemun · 08/06/2006 07:35

been lucky dd 2.4 she has stayed in bed unless she not well, she goes up between 6.30 and 6.45pm with her toys, books and torch. She "reads" untill ready to sleep i also say i be in to see her in 5 minutes. her doors shut and stairgate at top of stairs.

Dont know what to do when she can tell the time. as i dont go in until i check on her before i go to bed.

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Elibean · 08/06/2006 08:14

I think TB takes them back to bed with a 'its bedtime, night night' and kiss first time, a 'bedtime' second time, then wordless, eye-contactless taking back to bed consistently after that till they go to sleep. Might be confusing her with Supernanny (not a regular watcher of either these days) but someone else bound to know!

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fuzzlepelts · 08/06/2006 12:48

This is a subject close to my heart. DD went in to a bed almost 3 weeks ago and has been fine..... until last night - it took me almost 2 hours of "I've done a wee wee", "I've got bogies", I need a kiss", I want this and I want that and so on. It was exhausting and I was quite ready to put her on ebayShock! Eventually DH got her to settle by threatneing to put the bars back on her cot bed. I don't really want to do that so have resolved to do TB method of rapid return tonight. I too am dreading 7pm Grin

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Orinoco · 08/06/2006 22:18

no new suggestions - but just reassurance that it's just a phase and they will get over it! DD1 was taking up to 2 hrs at one point but now settles fine.

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clairemow · 08/06/2006 22:46

Elibean, that is Supernanny Smile. But Tanya Byron is pretty similar, she calls it "rapid return" - you put the child in bed as normal with story/drink, then say good night and leave. Every time they get out you go and put them in, without turning lights on or speaking at all. I saw one programme where the parents had to do this 298 times one night - but that was EXTREME!! And the next night the little girl only got out once. And she'd never slept in her own bed before so that was a success I'd say!

We found the stair gate the best thing though. Some of you may think this is a terrible thing to do, but I have resorted once or twice to tying the door handle to the stair gate so he can't open the door at all - 2 1/2 hours of rapid returning is pretty wearing.., esp when DS thinks it's funny and keeps laughing.

To be honest, DS found the TB method a game. Like frogs it all went wrong after DS spent 3 nights at my parents', and they too were v. gentle and spent ages sitting with him, coaxing him back in etc. So when we got home, we decided to go hard core, and had the screaming thing like you allatsea - although it was only 45 mins the first night, and 10 the second, since then no problem at all. Now, he climbs into bed, and settles really well - at home and when he's away. In the morning he's stopped getting out too, and plays games happily with Teddy.

It will pass, when the novelty wears off!!

One thing I would say though, decide what "solution" you're going to try and then stick to it - if you're going to try "controlled" (ha ha) crying then you need to do it again tomorrow, and I bet the time he complains is shorter. Of course, if it really isn't working and he's working up into a state night after night, maybe the more gentle TB method is the way to go.

Sorry for lengthy post. Got a bit carried away.

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fuzzlepelts · 12/06/2006 09:13

allatsea - how's it going.
My dd seems to be accepting staying in at the mo. I was dreading last night as I was on my own and she got up once wanting a clean nappy and then again saying "I've got bogies" at which point I threatened to put the bars back on her cot bed and this seemed to work (not that I have any idea how to actually do thatSmile)

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hunkermunker · 12/06/2006 09:15

Still watching this thread - DS1 not in a cot yet but DS2 really needing it. Gah.

Love "I've got bogies" as a reason for getting up though!

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bourneville · 12/06/2006 09:33

clairemow - i don't have a stair gate but i have resorted to tying the door handle to a hook on the wall. works a treat & i don't often have to actually use it any more but i really really wish i didn't have to use it, even though dd isn't that phased by it (1st time she was upset but only for about 5 mins), and now it seems she is actually happy to know that it would happen! like it's a routine or security or something Blush. I wish i had the patience to stick with rapid return but just couldn't. having a boyf insistent on stress free child free evenings didn't help - the first night she got up at bedtime he happened to be here and it was my birthday so rapid return went out the window. :( If i was by myself i may have stuck to it that one evening to see if it worked for the rest of the week. Previous to that, she got up in the night & i stuck to it & she never got up again following nights so i think it might have worked. damn!
but she did find it all a game (we tried it for about 10 mins) she really was just taking the p*.

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