If I was Welsh I would name my daughter Carys...

(46 Posts)
twowasthemagicnumber Wed 23-Apr-14 12:40:40

To be honest if I'd even been there on holiday I'd consider it. But we have no Welsh connections at all, so I just can't do it (I know the arguments about just picking a name you like, but my other DC have culturally relevant names, and I'd like one for this baby as well).

I'm sure I'll have another boy anyway (in which case he will be Fergus), but if anyone feels like humouring me and suggesting English or Scottish (either would be fine in our family) girls' names which we might like, given that we can't bring ourselves to use Carys, I'd be very grateful.

RuthlessBaggage Wed 23-Apr-14 12:43:51

Use Charis? Ancient Greek for Grace.

twowasthemagicnumber Wed 23-Apr-14 12:44:51

Ooh Ruthless, I like! Thank you, we hadn't considered that.

Weegiemum Wed 23-Apr-14 12:45:21

I know several Scottish girls called Charis.

Hedgehog80 Wed 23-Apr-14 12:46:05

I have a Carys. We are not welsh! Dh chose the name for dd2 (I had chosen dd1name)

twowasthemagicnumber Wed 23-Apr-14 12:51:20

Thanks Weegie and Hedgehog. Your DH chose a lovely name grin. But DH is Scottish, and our other two DC have Scottish names: I just can't get past the fact that if we chose a very obviously Welsh name a daughter might grow up wondering why we hadn't given her a Scottish name too, or even an English one (I am English). We don't live in the UK and so The DCs are constantly asked to explain their names - she would always be saying "It's Welsh, but I'm not Welsh....". Somehow Ancient Greek feels like a less random choice (although I can't fully explain why).

UriGeller Wed 23-Apr-14 12:56:30

Why do you need to be welsh? Its a beautiful name, if you like it you should use it. I don't see it as being "obviously" welsh like Blodwen or Angharad.

Graciejoylove8 Wed 23-Apr-14 13:19:40

I'm in Australia, I'm Scottish, and my mother who lives in Hong Kong is desperate for me to have a Carys!
Names know no boundaries smile I find it surprising that anyone is asking a child for their name origins in this climate/era.
If you love it, go for it!

Chances are, way down the family tree you may have roots to Wales perhaps.

It's a very lovely name. And the Greek or Latin versions equally so.

squoosh Wed 23-Apr-14 14:00:36

I really don't understand why you wouldn't call her Carys.

So what if it it's Welsh and not Scottish. They're both British, both Celtic, surely that's connection enough. Ancient Greece has far less of a connection to your family's heritage!

Theonlyoneiknow Wed 23-Apr-14 16:16:00

I am scottish and live in scotland and have a Welsh name. DS has à scottish name and DD is called Cerys. Didnt ever cross my mind to not call her the girls name i lovw the most. She has à very scottish girls middle name

NigellasDealer Wed 23-Apr-14 16:18:27

what is wr0ng with Carys anyway? seems pretty mainstream British name to me.
if I were, if I were

RuthlessBaggage Wed 23-Apr-14 16:31:37

Agree that Carys isn't as obviously Welsh as, say, Blodwen - pretty mainstream I'd have thought.

But OP may have a Welsh-ish surname (as I do) which makes slightly-Welsh first name sound really Welsh. So, although Carys Smith wouldn't be assumed to be Welsh, Carys Evans might be.

Er, not that there's anything wrong with being thought to be Welsh, or indeed with being Welsh, just that if you aren't it might be tedious to have to correct a misunderstanding often.

::has given this LOTS of thought over three DC::

hollyisalovelyname Wed 23-Apr-14 16:34:32

I think you are overthinking...you like the name- use it.
I think it's a beautiful name.

stleger Wed 23-Apr-14 17:04:56

My kids have a Welsh surname, it would work really well. I am going to force my ds to use it, in the far future!

BikeRunSki Wed 23-Apr-14 17:05:21

Carys and Elin are my favorite girls names, not Welsh and dd is not called either.

I had Carys on my list and we are Scottish and our boys have Scottish/Celtic/Gaelic names.

Other girls names we had decided on were Mairi or Kirsty.

My current favourite is Lorna

Other suggestions:

Shona
Fallon
Blythe
Elspeth
Morvern
Tierney

Salazar Wed 23-Apr-14 18:41:26

I used Charis for the exact reason you state OP - no Welsh connections. I think it is much prettier with this spelling too.

ratqueen Wed 23-Apr-14 20:09:53

I only found out I had Welsh roots last year. Most people do! ;) If you love the name, I say use it. I prefer Carys as a spelling personally but Charis is obviously also nice.

Otherwise, how about Agnes?

Friedbrain Wed 23-Apr-14 20:11:27

London! I love this name!

ThinkIveBeenHacked Wed 23-Apr-14 20:14:34

Aoife is on my list and Im not Irish!

twowasthemagicnumber Wed 23-Apr-14 20:21:29

Thanks, I do feel fairly tied to using a Scottish / English name, although appreciate that not everyone feels it necessary for a name to be culturally relevant to them.

Charis is a definitely possibility, and I love Mairi, soontobe, that's definitely one which we will consider further - it has a similar sort of feel to Carys for me.

squoosh Wed 23-Apr-14 20:26:13

But not that tied to the Scottish/English theme if Charis is on the list.

smile You don't come across many little Mairis, even in Scotland.

Had we had two girls instead of boys, I am fairly sure we would have a Mairi and a Carys smile

MrsBonnie Wed 23-Apr-14 20:44:39

I think Carys is a lovely name! My cousin named her child Cerys, which is similar, but I prefer Carys.

I am Scottish, and love Scottish baby names. I would suggest;

Eilidh
Isla
Ailsa
Blaire
Cora
Maisie
Maeve

Good luck with the name!

RabbitSaysWoof Wed 23-Apr-14 20:46:54

Cameron

Lucked Wed 23-Apr-14 20:59:26

I am Scottish and know two women named Charis, it was on our short list but I worried everyone would assume on hearing it that it was Carys.

Theonlyoneiknow Wed 23-Apr-14 22:20:19

Scottish girls names i like are

Eilidh
Mirren
Agnes
Heather
Morven
Kirsty
Iona

squoosh Wed 23-Apr-14 22:21:05

I saw a Senga working in M&S a few weeks ago, had never seen one in real life before!

306235388 Wed 23-Apr-14 22:27:03

Girls

Mirren
Morven
Mhairi
Mairi
Isla
Iona
Ailish
Elspeth
Mairead
Cora

swingonastar Wed 23-Apr-14 23:28:17

Cara? Sometimes used just as it is, but also as a diminutive of the Gaelic Cairistìona (carishteeona).

TheOldestCat Wed 23-Apr-14 23:33:56

Go for it! I'm Welsh, DH is English and DS has an Irish name (DH's mum's family were originally Irish but it's tenuous; we had a friend with the name and just loved it).

Carys is beautiful; Cerys too.

ChickenMe Thu 24-Apr-14 23:25:12

It's a nice name. Who cares what anyone thinks. Karis Jagger carries it well

toffeelolly Fri 25-Apr-14 00:16:08

I love Carys. I called my dd Carys, and I am not from wales. Think if you like the name nothing else matters.

LackaDAISYcal Fri 25-Apr-14 00:25:10

scottish girl's names are tricky....which is why I have 2 DS with strong Scottish names and a DD with a typically English rose name (DH is English)

But...if you like Carys, then use it.

mathanxiety Fri 25-Apr-14 05:29:34

People ask questions about names to make polite conversation, but ultimately they don't really care how you came to your decision.

A lot of people you meet won't know the first thing about Wales, where it is, that it isn't a part of Scotland, or Ireland, or somewhere close to Iceland, etc. So give whatever name you like.

twowasthemagicnumber Fri 25-Apr-14 09:34:08

Thanks for the replies. I wonder if I am over thinking this. We do love Carys as a name. To my ears it sounds very obviously Welsh, but I'm happy to be told that it's in mainstream use (anyone like to suggest some equivalents? Is it e.g. a 'Caitlin' or 'Fiona' type name, i.e. Irish / Scottish but I wouldn't automatically assume that someone called Caitlin was Irish / Scottish?).

Lacka yes I agree that Scottish girl's names are tricky. My boys too have strong, very Scottish names, and I felt that we had lots to pick from. I am not feeling that way with girls names (and didn't the last 2 times either - had either DS been a DD we would have used Alice, but it has now been 'taken'!).

We do like Mairi though, and Catriona may also be a contender, although it's on the frilly side for us.

CountessOfRule Fri 25-Apr-14 09:39:41

Nowadays it's really not that Welsh, no. As Welsh as Flora is Scottish, perhaps.

twowasthemagicnumber Fri 25-Apr-14 09:50:18

Thanks Countess, that's the right answer grin. I do love Flora too actually, but it's also 'taken' (by a friend whose DSs have the same names as my DSs - although we didn't know them when we named the boys - it would just be too odd to use her girl's name too!).

I definitely wouldn't assume that someone called Carys was Welsh. I know a few Carys' & Karis' and they are all Scottish (probably because I live in Scotland grin ) and I don't think any of them have Welsh parents.

Seems like you now have a little shortlist so you can choose when the baby is born maybe?

We liked names beginning with a "k" sound or "m" sound as they went well (we think) with our McK surname so that helped to narrow it down for us.

ThisFenceIsComfy Fri 25-Apr-14 12:11:56

What about Caitir? That's a pretty Scottish name

DillydollyRIP Fri 25-Apr-14 12:15:43

Cerys is lovely. My friends dd is Cerys, wish I'd have chosen it first.
I also really liked Niamh but would be forever spelling it out and it's not phonetic so possibly difficult for dd to write.

feathermucker Fri 25-Apr-14 12:22:21

I have a Rhys and I'm not Welsh, though I grew up there so it may be slightly different.

If you love the name, go for it - Celtic connections n'all wink

ThisFenceIsComfy Fri 25-Apr-14 12:30:26

Or what about Coira/Cora?

mathanxiety Fri 25-Apr-14 16:30:35

People outside of the British Isles have very odd notions of what constitutes Irish, Welsh, Scottish, etc., names anyway.

I know a Cuban woman who wanted to give her DDs Irish names and chose Lauren and Michaela hmm.

So Carys could easily pass as Scottish smile or conceivably Irish, French, Danish or anything else you fancied..

It's a beautiful name and if you love it then use it. You would be kicking yourself if you didn't and still loved it years down the road.

badtime Fri 25-Apr-14 21:30:26

A lot of Americans and Australians are convinced that 'Megan' is Irish hmm, and I wouldn't say Carys is more obviously Welsh than Megan.

JimmyCorkhill Fri 25-Apr-14 21:44:52

Just go for it. My DDs have Scottish names and my DH hasn't even visited Scotland. Doesn't bother us, they're gorgeous names.

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