Bryony or Helena

(44 Posts)
ClareBell08 Sat 12-Apr-14 12:17:46

DH and I have narrowed down to these two. Also thoughts on the spelling? Bryony/Briony
Middle name was going to be Katherine but both of us are leaning more towards Kate now although I rather like Cate, just looks a bit different!

ClareBell08 Sat 12-Apr-14 12:19:49

Forgot to say already have a DS, will be 3 in May he's a James but Jamie to most people. Didn't plan on making him a Jamie but it just sort of happened!

hellymelly Sat 12-Apr-14 12:20:03

Both lovely.

Sharaluck Sat 12-Apr-14 12:23:03

Briony Cate

Gen35 Sat 12-Apr-14 12:23:14

I like both but helena's long been a favourite

Helena much nicer imvho. Don't like Cate.

BartBaby Sat 12-Apr-14 15:26:39

Helena gets my vote.

I have an Elena smile

pinktransit Sat 12-Apr-14 15:40:22

I'd say Briony, but I may be a little biased as I have one.
The only downside is that it's really difficult to shorten to anything pretty.

Allalonenow Sat 12-Apr-14 15:43:56

Helena is lovely, how about Helena Briony? Not too keen on Kate etc. smile

insancerre Sat 12-Apr-14 15:45:54

love helena
not keen on Briony
dont like Cate
how about helena caitlin?

ClareBell08 Sat 12-Apr-14 15:52:50

Thanks everyone! DH an I still very torn. It may be a case of having to look at her and see what fits

Pinktransit this is a concern of mine actually. I love names that can have cute nn's for friends and family (helena I'm sure would get Heli or Leni or something!) But it seems like not much can be done with Briony. I was at school with one who always got Bryon/Bry. My friend knows of a little Briony who's friends call her Bri, as in the American name (said like Bree). Does your DD get any names at school? (If she's at that age!) what do you and DH call her for nn's?

ClareBell08 Sat 12-Apr-14 15:57:11

Insancerre I actually love caitlin but surname ends in an N, so that along with the N in bryony/Helena and the N in Caitlin may be a little much! It's why we have decided to go for Kate/Cate rather than Katherine.

Allalonenow , same as above really! I'd love to use both but too many N's lol

MincingOnBy Sat 12-Apr-14 16:07:16

Helena Catherine would be very lovely

ClareBell08 Sat 12-Apr-14 16:15:19

MincingonBy I agree, I just love all 3 names really! Surname ends in "son" though so we feel having an N in all 3 names may be a bit much which is why we've settled on Kate or Cate. Think we will probably go for Cate smile

pilates Sat 12-Apr-14 16:32:35

Helena is lovely
Dislike Briony/Bryony

Helena Katherine sounds great to me

Needadvice5 Sat 12-Apr-14 16:43:09

Sorry but really dont like Bryony!

BumbleeBee Sat 12-Apr-14 16:52:40

Oooh I see my name!

So my experience with my name...when I was little I really didn't like it. I didn't like that I was "different" and had a year group full of Emily, Sophie, Louise, Jessica, I was the only Bryony and often got called Brian which I hated.
But as I got older I liked the fact that I was just "Bryony"...not "Bryony M." In my class of just 18 at senior school there was 3 Louise's and 3 Emily's so we only knew them as "Louise P, Louise D" etc. So that was definitely a bonus!! I also don't mind it because it's not completely "out there"...I mean it's well known enough that most people won't have to ask you to repeat your name but it's not really popular either.

However I will definitely back up what pinktransit has said. I have always been Bryon/Brian/Bry. My close family call be B. I actually studied in Sydney for a year where there were a lot of American students and I was "Bree" within a few weeks. Brianna/Brianne are common names in both America and Australia so it seemed like a natural transition from Bryony!

A lot of people can't seem to get Brian out of their head and seem to think it's a female version of it. The only nn that I actually like is B. I'm so used to Bry now that it doesn't bother me but I really don't like it. A friend of mine was going to use Briony if she had a DD (ended up having a little boy) and said she was going to use Bonnie as a nickname but I just thought that was too much of a stretch from Briony. I said if she really liked Bonnie then just call her Bonnie!

Sooo there is my 2 cents lol As someone who has grown up with the name, I'd go for Helena. A lot of cute nn's can come from it, Heli, Leni, Laney. Bryony in itself I don't hate but no good nn's can come from it

HolidayCriminal Sat 12-Apr-14 17:00:56

Sorry esp. to BumbleBee, but Bryony makes me cringe.
They seem like really different names, like typically a person wouldn't like both, but maybe I just don't know the history of Bryony.

brokenhearted55a Sat 12-Apr-14 17:02:10

Bryony sounds like cough syrup.

Helena is beautiful.

BumbleeBee Sat 12-Apr-14 17:02:54

lol no need to apologise HolidayCriminal.. it's a very "marmite" name!

Definately Helena. Love it! It's classic and timeless, just like your DS's name. I like Cate too, but may be biased as our DD is Catherine and shortens it to Cate, which makes more sense to me than Kate given the different initials iyswim.

All the best with the baby.

HolidayCriminal Sat 12-Apr-14 17:08:59

No point in answering these threads if not being honest. I strongly feel OP should use Byrony, if she loves it, though. smile.

On MN My name has been called the precise opposite of Timeless Classic. (hmm)

WheresMeJumperOhNo Sat 12-Apr-14 18:18:20

I'm a Bryony and I don't like my name being shortened. At all. Everyone seems to think my name is Byrony, for some reason?
I love it though, I was the only Bryony at school etc and my Mum always had nice compliments about my name when I was little.
I also like Helena, so no help I'm afraid grin

lemonmuffin Sat 12-Apr-14 19:05:13

both are gorgeous, Bryony might get shortened to Bry though, if that bothers you.

chocchips Sun 13-Apr-14 08:59:05

Just chipping in as another Bryony. Its horrendous, please don't lumber your child with it. nobody I know likes it, some people raise their eyes and a couple have sneered when I've told them my name.

I get the 'oh that's unusual' you know the polite way of saying why did your parents do that? And to be quite frankly I have no idea why. I begged to have it changed and was never allowed.

It gets shortened to Bry which is marginally better. Agree with the person who said people can't get Brian out of their head, people took the piss at school where I longed to be normal like the other children.

I'm a little biased as I have an irrational hatred of my name but I fairly believe my life would be easier if I had a 'normal' name.

Ice seen a few names recently mention Bryony, this is worrying!

Oh yeah, Helena.

Sharaluck Sun 13-Apr-14 11:09:56

I'm surprised that people don't like the shortening of briony/bryony to bri/bry. Helena could similarly be shortened to Hel.

Blondieminx Sun 13-Apr-14 11:12:51

I prefer Helena (which is what I would name any future DD).

Helena Kate is lovely smile

patchesmcp Sun 13-Apr-14 11:31:40

I'm a Helena and I do love it, but you'd be surprised at how many people can't pronounce it properly and how often I have to spell it for people. It's really irritating and I actually dislike telling people my name for this reason.

Just something to think about.

hellymelly Sun 13-Apr-14 14:27:23

For all the Bryonys above- Bryony makes me think of woodland fairies for some reason. I imagine beautiful slender girls with hazel eyes and chesnut hair. It has never made me think of Brian.
I nearly used Helena for one dd, but I am a Helen, so too similar, and I am named for my mother's cousin Helena who died as a teenager (my Mum couldn't bear to use the full name.) She pronounced it Hel- lee-na rather than like Helen with an added A.
The only Helena I know is known as Nina.

squoosh Sun 13-Apr-14 15:31:57

Helena is lovely although its many possible pronunciations, hu-lay-na / helen-a / hu-lee-na, might get a bit aggravating. Good nickname potential though.

I don't like Bryony at all.

chocchips Sun 13-Apr-14 16:30:24

Oh yes, forgot that nobody can spell Bryony or pronounce it properly either. Oh its just so hideous it actually upsets me some days lol!

BryKP Sun 13-Apr-14 18:39:13

Another bryony chipping in. Reasons I like my name: there was never more than one of me in a class.... And that's where it ends.

I really, really hate it. Up until 6 days before I was born I was going to be Eleanor then my mum read an article in a magazine written by a Bryony said It immediately "clicked".. Damn magazine!!

I have just never seen the appeal. My mum bought me the flower fairy books where there was a white bryony and black bryony fairy. Those are the only things that make me NOT just think of Brian

People will always spell it wrong, and going abroad is a nightmare. As part of my degree I spent 6 months in Spain and 6 in Italy and actually started introducing myself as just B because it was such a nightmare. No one could say it at all.

Have you considered Briar? Strangely I actually kind of like briar. As in briar rose like the sleeping beauty. I thin it's much more delicate and less harsh sounding

Anyway there's my input!! I'm actually surprised at how many times I've seen it pop up on here. Not sure if it's getting more popular now. May be in the "nature" name trends like Iris lily violet laurel etc

mathanxiety Sun 13-Apr-14 18:40:02

Definitely Helena.

chocchips Sun 13-Apr-14 21:04:45

BryKP you sound exactly like me! My mum vetoed Imogen, Kate and Abigail in favour of Bryony. This makes me very very sad! Its so Brian-like isn't it? I'm also surprised I see it pop up here more often than it should!

BryKP Sun 13-Apr-14 21:17:54

Chocchips Kate is my middle name smile it's my saving grace hahha I actually love kate. I begged my mum
To let me have it as my first name for years!! Hahaha.

BryKP Sun 13-Apr-14 21:19:35

Chocchips oops pressed enter too soon! But yeah I really do not see the appeal of our name sad i know deep down my dad doesn't love it either lol he's never come out and said it but it's kinda obvious. He's called me B from day one.

chocchips Sun 13-Apr-14 21:31:52

My middle name is normal too, I also begged to use it or just change my name completely. My dad is in love with my name, I just absolutely hate it.

I see all these negative comments about it and it makes me feel even worse (though I wholeheartedly agree with them).

Nobody can spell it, people look at me funny and once someone told me 'well that's a stupid name!' The only thing its ever done for me is ensure my daughter has a bog standard ordinary name.

HelenaMay Sun 13-Apr-14 21:40:22

I have nc for this..... obviously grin

My name is Helena (mn May - my mum calls me Miss May smile) and I'm 30. People seem to like it. I never cared one way or the other but would say now I think the best thing about it is it's a strong name, if you want it to be, it's feminine but not girly. In an odd way I don't feel it has shaped my personality at all, because it has no associated perceived qualities, iyswim. And this is a good thing. It is also era-less and fits with a whole load of languages and cultures.

The only real downside is being called Helen, which irks me, but I am the sort of person to immediately correct this grin

People wondering about nicknames, as a child I was Hellie Wellie, until I knocked that sharply on the head. Some people call me 'H'. No real nicknames at school. Since university a lot of people call me Hels.

OP I don't know if that helps but I've never seen my name on these boards before, it's exciting!

<replaces fake nose and moustache>

HelenaMay Sun 13-Apr-14 21:42:23

Oh yes Squoosh, correct, I should have said I'm a Helen-a and particularly Scots want to call me Hel-ay-na. I don't mind correcting people's pronunciation, as I feel they're not getting it wrong but using the wrong alternative, iyswim. There are people who persist in calling me the wrong version but I imagine they'd do that to a great many names hmm

mathanxiety Sun 13-Apr-14 22:20:26

There's also an Irish pronunciation Hel-ee-na.

HelenaMay Sun 13-Apr-14 22:25:12

Oh yes I get that a lot too! Irish family. Not them, obviously except the mad cousins but when I'm in Ireland.

OP what pronunciation are you imagining for Helena?

Sharaluck Sun 13-Apr-14 23:22:04

I agree with whoever says briony/bryony makes them think of woodland fairies.

I also once met a Briarlee (not sure of how it was spelt) which i also like for similar reasons (although mumsnet would disapprove of it I'm sure hmm )

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Sun 13-Apr-14 23:48:15

Pretty sure the woodland fairies is a flower fairy link..

I like both. How about Rony as a NN for Bryony?

GreatAuntDinah Mon 14-Apr-14 14:20:48

(Outing myself) my sister Briony gets called Bri-nylon or Biriani. Still a very pretty name though grin

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