A sibling for Gabriel and Arabella

(95 Posts)
oldbutnotpastit Tue 14-Jan-14 15:04:34

we are expecting a surprise dc in the summer . we have a large extended family so many names we like are no longer available . we also have older dcs who each have 2 middle names .I don't want to out myself by naming them .

we both like Winifred but i'm really not sure it goes with Arabella .
i like Priscilla but think it might be too similar to dd's name.

for girls we seem to have a thing about witch names as Tabitha , Samantha , Theodora and Sabrina have all been mentioned along with Winifred .

Hester and Esther our lovely but it rhymes with the first syllable of our surname .
for boys Raphael is nice but Gabriel and Raphael but worry may be a bit twee
after watching chitty chitty bang bang DH has also mentioned Caratacus and i think he's serious.

any ideas both male and female gratefully received

Tabitha is lovely and I think Theodora goes well with arabella. Raphael is lovely. Caratacus is completely bonkers.

ancientbuchanan Tue 14-Jan-14 15:32:06

Talitha
Susanna
Georgiana
Georgia
Felicity
Letitia/Lettice
Dorothea

I love Theodora and like Tabitha, prefer the first with Arabella. I also like the ones above.

If you like the ll sound/ a,
Carlotta
Anastasia
Pascale
Lalage ( pronounced Lal -a - gee)
Aurelia

Caractacus bonkers. And there is a children's sing about the ladies of the harem of the court of king Caractacus....

If he likes Roman

Marcus
Julius/Julian
Augustus/Augustine/Austin
Tibor ( the Romanian form of Tiberius)
Aurelian
Horace/Horatio
Alban
Benedict
Atticus
Ignatius/Inigo

If he likes freedom fighters
Wallace
Robert
Owen/OwainEwen
I suggest not Attila nor Genghis though the latter is a fave in outer Mongolia...

Or Anglo Saxon or Celtic...

Edred

oldbutnotpastit Tue 14-Jan-14 15:58:40

we will definitely not be using Caractus , it was dh's completely mad idea and there is no way i would inflict it on child .Although i have considered Cedric which is it's anglicized version . He also likes Edmund .

unfortunately we can't use Tabitha as we have a family member with the name
i love theodora /dorothea but we have a T.U .D.O.R so it may be too similar

Mim78 Tue 14-Jan-14 16:17:27

I like Edmund. Or Edmond, which is the Count of Monte Cristo (reason why I like it!).

What is a TUDOR in this context?

oldbutnotpastit Tue 14-Jan-14 17:45:38

sorry T u d o r is our older ds's name which in some name dictionaries is given as the welsh form of theodore and this is why i think theodora might to similar

MoreSkyThanWeNeed Tue 14-Jan-14 17:53:24

I like Winifred.

Or Matilda or Allegra

Raphael is lovely. I think it sounds fine with your other names (which are sooo nice). They won't always be referred to as a trio (unless they start a band) so choose what you love.

oldbutnotpastit Tue 14-Jan-14 18:28:17

i'm glad someone else likes winifred . i think it's lovely but feels like a guilty pleasure .
i love matilda as well but dh vetoed it last time round as being too masculine hmm. i'm trying to persuade him that miranda could be an alternative
allegra is lovely as is octavia but dh associates both with brands of car

ancientbuchanan Tue 14-Jan-14 20:35:19

I don't think Theodora is too close, but Dorothea is further

Theophania with nn Tiffany

Maude/Maud,
Madeleine/Magdalen/(e)/Maidllin( nn maidie)

If Tudor, more Welsh?

Blodwen
Bronwen
Angharad
Gwendolin
Gladwys

If not Raphael,

Ezekiel
Ezra
Azrael
Balthazar
Caspar
Melchior
Tobias
Barnabas/Barnaby
Zachary
Anthony
Jude
Joel

ToffeeJungle Tue 14-Jan-14 21:41:56

Eden
Cordelia
Florentina
Georgiana
Ayanna
Iris
Robyn
Serendipity
Hermione
Daphne

Caleb
Linus
Rowan
Silas
Ezra
Cornelius
Romeo
Xander
Owen
Jasper

BelleOfTheBorstal Tue 14-Jan-14 21:46:39

For a boy, I think Zane goes quite well with the names you already have.
Only my opinion though.

Countrywalks Tue 14-Jan-14 21:48:26

I like Winifred

Seraphina
Imogen

I thought Rafe Felix or Edwin would fit well with Gabriel

Congratulations !

bouncingbelle Wed 15-Jan-14 01:42:51

When I saw the thread title I immediately thought Raphael! Constance or verity for a girl?

gruffalosfriend Wed 15-Jan-14 06:32:48

Seraphina is lovely, as is Tabitha.

I do think Gabriel and Raphael are very similar. How about
Theodore
Quentin
Cassius
Reuben

oldbutnotpastit Wed 15-Jan-14 14:24:06

ancient and toffee so many of your ideas are names we've toyed with.
i particularly love Georgiana ,Angharad ,Cordelia ,Hermione and Gwendolin but dh needs convincing.

i really like Ezra but dh vetoed it .Tobias , Cornelius , Barnabas and Jasper are also lovely and have been added to our long list .

CarlaVeloso Wed 15-Jan-14 14:25:09

Claudia sounds great with those names.

oldbutnotpastit Wed 15-Jan-14 14:31:28

i like claudia and cecilia but their meanings are something i'm not sure about . we've also thought about Clarissa

Hazelbrowneyes Wed 15-Jan-14 14:49:30

Persephone
Stephanie
Melody
Meredith
Verity
Isobel
Eloise
Saffron
Camilla

Julian
Finlay
Harrison
Marcus
Jenson
Ptolemy
Alexander

oldbutnotpastit Wed 15-Jan-14 20:21:05

hazel i think Persephone but dh is not convinced .
he has also vetoed ambrose for a boy

ancientbuchanan Wed 15-Jan-14 21:34:50

Irene
Cornelia
Louisa
Laurentia
Prudence
Patience
Perdita
Pamela
Petrova
Thomasina
Euphemia ( Effie.)
Emilia/Emmeline
Lucia
Lucilla
Lucette
Elspeth
Ishbel
Giselle
Ghislaine
Elaine
Griselda
Ariadne
Adrienne
Danae
Celeste
Eleanor
Venetia
Verena
Vanda
Berenice
Beatrice
Caroline
Deborah
Jacinta
Flora
Fenella
Fiammetta
Hilary
Henriette
Harriet
Ianthe
Anthem
Imogen
Jemima
Marianne
Ophelia
Pauline/Paulina
Richenda
Rebecca
Rachel

A few more. Any themes?

ancientbuchanan Wed 15-Jan-14 21:38:43

Oh, and if you like Winifred,

Mildred
Millicent
Muriel

There's a great thread on awful family names on chat, I think, some lovely old fashioned names.

HoneyandRum Thu 16-Jan-14 22:56:00

You can also us Raphaela for a girl.

jamtoast12 Fri 17-Jan-14 14:55:22

Clementine?

oldbutnotpastit Fri 17-Jan-14 22:20:29

i love clementine but dh won't even consider it .

MaeWestfield Fri 17-Jan-14 23:34:15

Juliet
Marcus

1974rach Wed 22-Jan-14 18:58:38

I love Theodora for a girl, just a gorgeous name. I also like Raphael, if you want nn then Thea and Rafe work well.

baies74 Wed 22-Jan-14 19:41:59

Julian or Juliet (though you don't mention whether DC3 is actually due in July).

Lawrence or Laurence.

Marina/Serena/Carina.

oldbutnotpastit Wed 22-Jan-14 22:20:38

yes due in July and Juliet is lovely but dd3 has Juliet as a mn so we can't use it

this baby will be ds5 or dd6 .the other children children each have 2 mns
we also have 19 nieces and nephews , so their are alot of names we can't use.

poppydaisy Wed 22-Jan-14 22:35:11

Tabitha is lovely and I think it goes well with your other childrens' names.

For a boy, Raphael is nice but maybe a little similar to Gabriel. As it's your fifth son, how about Quentin, derived from the latin 'fifth'?

oldbutnotpastit Wed 22-Jan-14 22:39:40

tabitha is lovely. it's dd3 first name

ancientbuchanan Thu 23-Jan-14 23:58:00

How about some of the Shakespearean names?

Portia
Nerissa
Imogen
Rosalind
Hermione
Desdemona
Cordelia

Or unusual others

Damaris
Persis
Kezia

ancientbuchanan Fri 24-Jan-14 00:06:07

Annunziata
Carmel
Theresa
Brigetta
Petronella
Minette
Belinda
Amabel
Annis
Carys
Charis
Charity
Caroline
Hetty

Am having a wonderful time...

oldbutnotpastit Fri 24-Jan-14 11:35:44

i really like cordelia and Hermione unfortunately dh doesn't . We did consider Hetty as a nn for Hester thus avoiding the surname clash.
For boys i do like Jasper , Ezra ,Cornelius and Barnabas a but again dh is not keen .

AgathaPinchBottom Fri 24-Jan-14 11:55:56

What about Agatha, Agnes , Cecily or Dora?
For boys: Lucian, Ludivic, Rafferty, Montague or Simeon?
Congratulations

oldbutnotpastit Fri 24-Jan-14 12:44:41

love Agatha dh doesnt . Cecily is d's mn so can't reuse it but love it would have been her first name but dh didn't like it sadly .

ancientbuchanan Fri 24-Jan-14 17:29:40

Elysia
Alicia
Elodie

Antonia
Antoinette
Aspasia
Abigail

Dervla
Eglantine
Francesca
Frances
Hildegarde
Iona
Isla
Ianthe
Jacinta
Zoe

ancientbuchanan Fri 24-Jan-14 17:36:37

Francis?

Tarquin
Torquil
Tristram

Aaron

Bede

Callum

Daniel

Temple

Sintram

Jago

ancientbuchanan Fri 24-Jan-14 17:38:24

Gerald
Jerrold
Douglas

oldbutnotpastit Fri 24-Jan-14 21:17:24

eglantine and ianthe are lovely but again dh has more conservative tastes

beatricequimby Fri 24-Jan-14 21:25:14

Jacintha
Romilly
Sylvia

oldbutnotpastit Fri 24-Jan-14 21:38:53

ilike romily but dh thinks it's a park in south wales

greeneyes1978 Fri 24-Jan-14 21:51:18

Tanith

Jemimapuddlemuck Sat 25-Jan-14 23:48:13

Theola (Thea for short)?
Penelope (Nell)
Larissa
Jemima
Harriet

Can't think of any boys, sorry!

MellowAutumn Sun 26-Jan-14 07:49:24

Caroline/Carolina and Atticus

Right, out there (but beautiful) girls' names I was banned from using which might work.

Trinity
Liberty
Guinevere
Iseult
Artemis
Serenity

I would try to avoid another 'a' ending.

And lucky you having a DH who's actually even MORE adventurous!!

Bonsoir Sun 26-Jan-14 08:16:44

Jonas
Milo
Bruno

ImperialBlether Sun 26-Jan-14 08:18:23

Is this your 11th child?

Alisvolatpropiis Sun 26-Jan-14 11:23:17

I was going to suggest Jasper but considering your elder DS's name, maybe not.

T U D O R and Jasper is a bit too history nerd. Though I might just think that because I am a history nerd grin

Alisvolatpropiis Sun 26-Jan-14 11:24:11

old

Romilly is a park in South Wales and a pub and a few road names.

Jemimapuddlemuck Sun 26-Jan-14 11:56:15

Wow have just worked out how many DCs you have! I take my hat off to you. Congratulations on your surprise!

oldbutnotpastit Sun 26-Jan-14 12:25:05

stinking really like trinity it was on our shortlist for dd1 but we decided against it . also love Serenity it was on my shortlist for dd5 but dh vetoed it.i also really like Gunevere but no my dh will veto it .
jemima i love the name Jemima but we have a niece with the name so can't use it . Clarissa is on our short list .
Alis really like Jasper and Edmund and actually really like the Tudor linkage . I'm a bit of history nerd . I think only someone really into history would get the link . weirdly dd4 was nearly Jasper when he arrive he looked like Jasper carrot but it didn't last so we went for Gabriel instead.
imperial 10th child we have 5 dds and 4 dss already .
dh has alredy vetoed Lawrence and Harriet .
today the name Trevelyan popped into my head and i quite like it .

ancientbuchanan Sun 26-Jan-14 19:58:49

Pernelle
Peronelle
Verity
Lavender
Charity
Clarissa
Venetia
Elspeth
Betsy
Horatia
Aphra

Fabian
Hamish
Hector ( and I feel it is v different from Tudor)
Vere
Rollo ( father of William 1)
Roland
Harold
Horace
Horatio
Samson
Joshua
Nahum
Noah
Abel
Jacob

What's the connection between jasper and Tudor? Intrigued.

ancientbuchanan Sun 26-Jan-14 20:03:35

Trevelyan is quite nice, any connection there?

Lots of surnames get turned into first names, do you have any suitable ones in your family? Think of all those Normans, Gordons, Camerons,

Walter ?

What do you want to discount? Eg, biblical names, saints names, Greek or Latin names?

ancientbuchanan Sun 26-Jan-14 20:06:42

I know it's not unusual but a variant if Guinivere is Jennifer

celestialsquirrelnuts Sun 26-Jan-14 20:11:05

Virginia
Such a cool name nobody uses anymore

Mercia

Venetia

Cornelia

Leonie

Tamsin (you obviously like T names)

celestialsquirrelnuts Sun 26-Jan-14 20:16:42

For boys
Tristan?

Miles?

Benedict?

Constantine?

Dominic?

poppydaisy Sun 26-Jan-14 22:21:09

Dominic is nice, as is Quentin (esp for a fifth son!). Love Hermione for a girl.

Alisvolatpropiis Sun 26-Jan-14 22:21:34

If you like the like go for it! smile

I love Jasper, sadly sounds rubbish with my surname.

MadameJosephine Sun 26-Jan-14 22:52:34

No theme just gorgeous and unusual names that --i am too much of a wo to use myself--popped into my head

For girls:
Emmeline
Igraine
Calliope
Penelope

For boys:
Edison
Darwin
Franklin
Gawain

MadameJosephine Sun 26-Jan-14 22:53:03

Oops strike out fail!

celestialsquirrelnuts Mon 27-Jan-14 09:27:18

Gilbert.
Loooove Gilbert. Gil for short. How cool!

oldbutnotpastit Mon 27-Jan-14 11:17:52

really like Emmeline , Virginia , Hector and Gilbert will run them past dh but i expect he'll not embrace them .

only surname we could maybe consider is Clifton (cliff) but it feles ver ol d fashioned.

i like biblical and saints names particularly and also greek , roman style although dh is less impressed by these

celestialsquirrelnuts Mon 27-Jan-14 13:22:19

Atalanta?

I have 4 kids with 12 names between them and most if their nAmes appear on this thread!

Names we considered and rejected in no particular order:
Valentine
Valentina
Aurora
Aubrey
Godfrey
Dudley (these last three my DH suggestions and vetoed by me!)
Gilbert
Esmond (more unusual than Edmond? I like it anyway)
Bertrand
Guy
Piers
Justin (not used enough IMO)
Athena/Athene
Mariana (ooh yes use this! Good with Arabella!)

Can't think of any others at the moment. If you pm me I'll send you the full Monty of my kids names and you can see if there is anything you like there!

celestialsquirrelnuts Mon 27-Jan-14 13:29:10

Marisa
Melissa
Larissa

??

oldbutnotpastit Mon 27-Jan-14 13:38:31

i love aurora but dh just laughs . aubrey is ds3 mn would have been his first but dh rejected it . also really like Piers (but it doesn't work with our surname ), Athena ,Gilbert , Bertrand and Godfrey (dh has already rejected this .
esmond is brilliant will definitely suggest this to dh ,
i prefer Clarissa to Larissa . clariisa is on our short list

oldbutnotpastit Mon 27-Jan-14 13:45:06

just looked up the meaning of esmond protected by god's grace and that is lovely . dh likes edmund but i don't like the nn ed/eddie so esmond could work

celestialsquirrelnuts Mon 27-Jan-14 14:33:37

Ooh hurrah!

You have to give a solemn vow to update us on the final choice or I'll fret about it grin

celestialsquirrelnuts Mon 27-Jan-14 14:37:48

Ps I think you can also spell it Esmund. It is a family name of my DH - I think they spell it with an O.

oldbutnotpastit Mon 27-Jan-14 14:45:04

just have to think of a name for a girl if bump is a dd . one with a similar meaning .

celestialsquirrelnuts Mon 27-Jan-14 16:45:33

Esme!

celestialsquirrelnuts Mon 27-Jan-14 16:56:12

Thinking about it Theodora which you like means beloved of god which is similar

celestialsquirrelnuts Mon 27-Jan-14 17:04:32

Anselm also means divine protection (another cool name - I know an adult Anselm) - and therefore so do the feminine versions Anselma and Selma.

I quite like Selma actually!

celestialsquirrelnuts Mon 27-Jan-14 17:07:10

Alicia also means protected by god

ImperialBlether Mon 27-Jan-14 19:59:09

But... but... if you are a believer, surely everyone is protected by god? Surely he/she wouldn't discriminate against people based on a name?

ancientbuchanan Mon 27-Jan-14 22:22:06

No, but it is lovely.

I suspect your DH would hate them, but there are the Victorian faves, Adolphus and Algernon.

Frederick and Frederica are both nice, imv.

William and Wilhemina

Ghislaine

Genevieve, pronounced either the French or English way.

TheDrugsWorkABitTooWellThanks Mon 27-Jan-14 22:26:22

I know a lovely Gabriel whose sister is Matilde.

GlassTrees Mon 27-Jan-14 22:35:45

Isadora and Miles are what you should choose. smile

oldbutnotpastit Tue 28-Jan-14 08:55:54

dh dismissed Esmond and Virginia.
i adore the name Algernon not sure about Algie though perhaps a bit too like algae .you are right though dh hates it .
i would love to use the name Genevieve but dh thinks it's too french and vetoed it last time
dh vetoed Matilda and Matilde for Arabella as in his opinion they were too masculine . He Is very hard to please
imperial yes all are protected by God but not all babies make it through pregnancy . it is also nice to have a reminder that a child was watched over by God prior to birth . To give a name meaning protected by God is more a reminder of God's protection of the pregnancy not a talisman for future protection or prosperity.

celestialsquirrelnuts Tue 28-Jan-14 12:25:30

So has he made any suggestions or is he just vetoing?
Did you try him with Anselm? Mariana?
In fact should you just show him this thread?!

celestialsquirrelnuts Tue 28-Jan-14 12:27:15

God I would love two babies called Esmond and Virginia. Sounds so.... Bloomsbury and glamorous. Like afternoon tea in tennis whites in Sussex in June...

grin

celestialsquirrelnuts Tue 28-Jan-14 12:29:18

algernon doesn't do it for me. Ernest? (You see how my mind works..!)

Ok how about Hayden?

celestialsquirrelnuts Tue 28-Jan-14 12:38:54

Rohan
Ambrose
Crispin (quite tempting)
Silas
Leon
Marius
Lucian
Caspar
Linus
Roland
Jolyon
Bertram (also tempting)

oldbutnotpastit Tue 28-Jan-14 14:09:49

no he comes up with very few suggestions ,other than Caractus ,but vetoes almost everything i suggest . He's not keen on Ambrose or Silas . His name is abbreviated to Chris so not sure Crispin is an option but i do like and the fact that it's similar to dh's name would not bother me , but it will bother dh .
He is slightly less negative than last time when he vetoed everything but one name , a name i loathed . Dd ended up with this name until we changed it to her mn when she was a few months old . Hence the reason i'm determined to get it right this time.
I'm not sure about Ernest ,although i had a great uncle with the name , it could grow on me but i always associate it with Bert an Ernie or Eric and Ernie .
I won't use Casper as their are 4 or 5 in ds's class of 20 although they spell them in a variety of ways .
i think Bertram is lovely but i know dh will roll his eyes .

oldbutnotpastit Tue 28-Jan-14 14:11:08

i did mention Anselm and Selma but again it was a no .

celestialsquirrelnuts Tue 28-Jan-14 14:15:47

You may need to use the nuclear option then - delightedly to announce your chosen name 2 mins after giving birth - "his name is Gilbert!" and then burst into tears when your DH says "I don't think we have agreed a name yet have we?".

If necessary add a bit of "after what I've been through I just assumed you would want me to be HAPPY" as appropriate...

Worked for me with dc4 grin

celestialsquirrelnuts Tue 28-Jan-14 14:20:40

I do feel for you - we basically had one name we agreed on for ds1 (dh's fathers name) and one name we agreed on for DS2 - otherwise we were stumped for boys. Dd1 and dd2 I found easier because DH didn't have such strong views on girls names. Also there was much less of the "no we can't have George because there was a boy I hated at prep school called George" or "Roland is the name of a kid who was still wetting his pants when he was 11" etc etc...

oldbutnotpastit Tue 28-Jan-14 14:40:28

That is exactly what my dh is like every name i suggest he either knew someone with the name he disliked . alternatively he finds so vague obscure rhyme or he finds a song he doesn't that contains the name and has some negative connection .
tried the she's called x bombshell last time and it failed .it is still a bit of a sore point that he was so uncompromising . i don't want to force a name he really dislikes on him as i know how awful it feels .

celestialsquirrelnuts Tue 28-Jan-14 15:14:03

The thing is that as soon as it becomes your dc's name he will love it. Sigh. Maybe use the "keep an open mind, you know I was right about dd in the end" etc etc

One of my DSes is Miles - I got that one through by putting on a Miles Davis CD (he loves his music) and saying "Miles is quite a cool name" and then leaving it. By the end of the CD he was trying to persuade ME to consider it for the bump! He had no idea he had rejected it out of hand a couple of weeks before...!

oldbutnotpastit Tue 28-Jan-14 16:04:15

that is a brilliant idea . i have just have to find any implanting the idea that the name i like is the name he thought of in the first place . i'd better loking out simon and garfukel cd's i (cecilia your breaking my heart0

ancientbuchanan Tue 28-Jan-14 18:42:09

Queen Matilda was otherwise known as Maud(e)... A bit more feminine

Griselda?

Germaine? And Jeremy/ Jerome/Jeremiah?

Gervais/ Gervaise/Jarvis?
Giles
Guy
Martin / Martine/Martine

Colin, Collette
Claud, Claudine, Claudette

Renee
Basil

Gwendolin to go with Cecily and Ernest and Algernon (nn Ger)

Paul, Pauline, Paulette

Melinda
Luna
Jocasta

Tamara
Thomasina/Thomasin/Thomasine/Tamsin

It may be too close to your surname, but Estelle, Estella/Stella

Sidonie

oldbutnotpastit Tue 28-Jan-14 22:28:53

i like Gwendolin because of it's Oscar Wilde reference . Unfortunately dh is not keen because he had an ex girlfriend called Gwen . It's not an issue for me because it was along time ago .
we;ve put Jermiah nn jem on the shortlist because it's been a long time favorite of mine and dh thinks its ok.

ancientbuchanan Tue 28-Jan-14 23:24:32

I love Jeremiah and Jeremy, and like both Jer and Je as nns

ancientbuchanan Tue 28-Jan-14 23:32:17

There is s thread on active atm about names that have gone out of fashion.

Try Humphrey, Cyril, Cecil.

ancientbuchanan Wed 29-Jan-14 19:46:24

Lavinia and Marmaduke,

Amyas

Loveday

Minette

Orlando ( alas that people will think it's after Disney).

ancientbuchanan Wed 29-Jan-14 19:47:50

Christopher but known as Kit?

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