(114 Posts)
MoFoe1 Sat 07-Dec-13 12:04:36

Opinions please grin

NickNacks Sat 07-Dec-13 12:07:36

I dont like it, sorry.

grizzabellia Sat 07-Dec-13 12:11:06

Not very keen to be honest - not sure if it sounds a bit 'common' for want of a better word. But it is not awful.

Rosencrantz Sat 07-Dec-13 12:11:57

Not a fan. Very 90s American teen hearthtrob!

RonaldMcDonald Sat 07-Dec-13 12:14:40

depends where you are in the world I'd guess
in norn iron it isn't v popular

Hollyandbooze Sat 07-Dec-13 12:16:18

No I don't like it. There are loads in west of Scotland.

SantasLittleMonkeyButler Sat 07-Dec-13 12:18:08

Oh no. Where I live there are a lot of Kyles and they always belong to a certain kind of family. It's one of the names that generally goes with the sentence "oy, get the fuck ere you little shit" blush.

It doesn't help that the local accent makes the name sound like Coil.

natwebb79 Sat 07-Dec-13 12:41:36

As a teacher I'm afraid I've gone off any boy's name beginning with 'K'. They really do seem to be 'naughty names' grin

Tikkamasala Sat 07-Dec-13 12:48:16

Dislike sorry

ZenNudist Sat 07-Dec-13 12:51:32

Think chavvy. Except in Scotland I would think more appropriate.

I suppose it depends if you've got a Scottish surname & accent. Quite like it then. In the middle of say Essex, not so nice.

Theonlyoneiknow Sat 07-Dec-13 15:04:54

Trying not to take offence at the above comments.

My DS is called Kyle and we are certainly not chavvy FFS!!!

What certain kind of family does this name belong to santaslittlemonkeybutler ???

For us, we chose it because it is a strong Scottish name and we like the meaning (straight of water). It isn't thought of as common in our area in Scotland.

If you like the name don't let a bunch of snobs on here put you off.

Fair enough to not like a name but to say it is associated with a certain type of family, common, chavvy etc well that, to me, says a lot about what type of person that poster is!!!

lljkk Sat 07-Dec-13 15:33:18

The only one I know is almost 6, bonny & extremely clever. Lovely lad. Nice parents, too.

AuntieBrenda Sat 07-Dec-13 15:39:13

Met loads of them.
None of them have been particularly well behaved.
Call your kid what you like though, is your kid x

CarryOnDancing Sat 07-Dec-13 15:45:49

Sorry, another snob here.

waves to Theonlyoneiknow

No particular offence intended but sometimes opinions are based on observations. I think it's more of a target because of the association with the current trend for K names.

If you are discounting opinions about the social standing of the name OP then I'd add that I also don't enjoy the sound. That seems to be an approved opinion as it's listed by the parent of a Kyle, so I hope it helps.

Bunbaker Sat 07-Dec-13 15:50:33

I also think it depends on where you live. Round here the sort of family that SantasLittleMonkeyButler has described would name their child Kyle.

ilovesmurfs Sat 07-Dec-13 15:53:24

The only kyle I know is a lovely little boy, a real sweetie.

Oh actually I have a second cousin? Called kyle in America, he must be all grown up now last saw him as a child, he was lovely too.

ImAnElfJeSuisUneElf Sat 07-Dec-13 15:57:51

The only Kyle I know was excluded for assaulting me. And then trying to set the school on fire.

Philoslothy Sat 07-Dec-13 16:01:18

This thread is making me want to call my unborn child Kyle.

Rooners Sat 07-Dec-13 16:31:35

LOL at ImAnElfJeSuisUneElf! fgrin

I know a little Kyle and he is great. But in terms of fashion, it does seem to be fashionable among families of lesser educational status round 'ere.

and often sounds like 'Carw' which is pretty unattractive.

What is it with the letters K and J? We need someone who's done a PhD on it. I find it very interesting.

FetaCheeny Sat 07-Dec-13 17:47:16

I really like Kyle, know a lovely one.

SantasLittleMonkeyButler Sat 07-Dec-13 18:05:16

Well TheonlyoneIknow - in this area, the kind of families who would be shouting "ger ere ya little shit" etc. etc.

The OP asked for opinions, and I gave mine based on my experience of children with that name. That is not snobby, just factual.

I'm sure your DS is lovely - I am not doubting that or calling you "one of those families" as, as far as I know, I have never met you!

sonlypuppyfat Sat 07-Dec-13 18:07:57

A little old fashioned but I love it. My nieces son is a Kyle and he is a genius.

TwerkingNineToFive Sat 07-Dec-13 18:10:54

Sorry I just think of Jeremy Kyle but I'm sure I'd get over that if I knew one. I like it in principle.

Only1scoop Sat 07-Dec-13 18:13:20

Think of Jezza....a bit chavtastic....sorry

Onesleeptillwembley Sat 07-Dec-13 18:29:27

A very high proportion of Kyles have little brothers called Jayden and Kayden in this city. I know this because they're always being screeched, as said upthread.

usualsuspect Sat 07-Dec-13 20:23:58

What a snobby thread this is.

You need to get over yourselves.

pickledsiblings Sat 07-Dec-13 20:36:06

I don't like this name at all despite meeting a really lovely 20 something Kyle recently. I found it strange as I just couldn't match the name with his persona; he was witty, attractive and intelligent.

usualsuspect Sat 07-Dec-13 20:37:53

What would expect a witty,attractive intelligent man to be called then?

KrabbyPatty Sat 07-Dec-13 20:39:26

It's chavvy, or whatever the acceptable term is now.

Rollermum Sat 07-Dec-13 20:40:52

Sorry, another one who thought instantly of Jeremy Kyle. I wouldn't use it for that reason.

If you love it though, who cares. Jeremy Kyle probably won't be a big name in future years!?

Ubik1 Sat 07-Dec-13 20:43:53

OH lovely, gentle, clever DP is called Kyle

I'm going to show him this thread later grin...will not show MIL though, she'd have all your guts for garters.

Bunbaker Sat 07-Dec-13 20:44:33

"What a snobby thread this is."

Yes it is, but it doesn't get away from the fact that the name Kyle has certain connotations whether you like it or not.

Ubik1 Sat 07-Dec-13 20:49:01

Yeah like; when I hear Mylo or Jack or Jake I always associate it with a certain sort of North London mother:

'Oh no, mylo stop hitting him... sweetie... no darling we talked about this...use your words darling not your fists...oh dear..' etc etc

usualsuspect Sat 07-Dec-13 20:51:09

It has certain connotations for up their own arse snobs,yes.

Auntierosemary Sat 07-Dec-13 20:52:47

Bloody hell! Katie Hopkins, is that you (x15)? Parents of kyles (including one of my best friends) don't read this thread. As Louis Walsh might say, a baby will make a name his own so if you like Kyle - go for it.

Saminthemiddle Sat 07-Dec-13 20:54:05

sorry, no...dislike

KrabbyPatty Sat 07-Dec-13 20:55:19

I agree with Bunbaker. My son has a name that has gone from unusual to ubiquitous in the last 10 years.

MN would be divisive. Most love it, some think it pretentious.

Most people have opinions on names, c'est la vie.

Theonlyoneiknow Sat 07-Dec-13 20:58:12

Thanks usualsuspect but think I will hide this thread from the threads I'm on.

I expect all those comments have put the OP off which is a shame. They must have been considering it to post on here. I often wish people who judge other names so harshly would share what their own DC are called!

My DS is a beautiful, kind, intelligent boy who has a strong Scottish name with a lovely meaning. It does sadden me that there are so many harsh negative comments towards his name. Imagine how you would feel if they were directed towards your DCs name?

Yes, the OP asked for opinions, but when a poster then replies and says they have a DC with that name I would never have been so mean as to post such harsh comments afterwards, maybe I am too soft for here!

God forbid you knew his middle name!

usualsuspect Sat 07-Dec-13 20:58:22

And 'chavvy' has never been an acceptable term.

usualsuspect Sat 07-Dec-13 21:06:55

Theonlyone, Baby names is the pits of MN.

It's full of middle England posters with their boring childrens names and lives.

Kyle is a fine name.

pickledsiblings Sat 07-Dec-13 21:07:06

usualsuspect, Alex/Edward/James/John/Matthew/Stephen/Mark etc etc.

Auntierosemary Sat 07-Dec-13 21:07:27

You're not too soft, theonlyoneiknow, or if you are then so am I - I was hurt on your behalf by some of those comments and if someone said stuff like that about my kids' names I would surely cry. But go on, tell us his middle name!

Ubik1 Sat 07-Dec-13 21:08:39

Kyle is a lovely Scottish name

pickledsiblings Sat 07-Dec-13 21:10:13

It's the fact that it's the female version of Kylie that puts me off it I think…and I like Kylie (Minogue, that is).

The OP has asked for opinions and I have given mine.

Ubik1 Sat 07-Dec-13 21:13:33

It's not the sodding male version of sodding kylie

It's from a Scottish surname which was derived from Gaelic caol meaning "narrows, channel, strait

OP you could try Caol ?

Theonlyoneiknow Sat 07-Dec-13 21:19:11

See, I am actually crying now. It really hurts to hear comments like that about your child's name. Yes of course everyone is entitled to their opinion but I just don't see the need to be so nasty about it.

I often post on this board and yes, if I didn't like a name I would say so but I wouldn't be mean about it.

His middle name is a surname (which is also 'chavvy' according to MN) but it is after a very close family member who passed away.

Thanks those of you that said you liked his name and stuck up for me!

Think I will go back to the Christmas threads for some festive cheer.

Ubik1 Sat 07-Dec-13 21:22:15

Don't be upset - there are loads of lovely Kyles around - but yes get some festive cheer and have a lovely Christmas with your - no doubt - lovely son fsmile

usualsuspect Sat 07-Dec-13 21:23:39

Don't let the idiots get you down.


gazzalw Sat 07-Dec-13 21:23:52

The Kyle in DD' s class (aged 8) told the year group about Chucky....enough said

ItStillLooksLikeRainDear Sat 07-Dec-13 21:24:32

All the Kyles I've come across are naughty boys!

usualsuspect Sat 07-Dec-13 21:27:08

Have you bothered to read Theonlyones posts?

GideonKipper Sat 07-Dec-13 21:29:48

TheonlyoneIknow I ended up getting so narked on a thread where people were -bitching about-- discussing one of my dc's names that I ended up hiding it. It's not worth the aggro. Don't get upset.

Ledkr Sat 07-Dec-13 21:31:41

Ahem. My Kyle is 26 and just gorgeous. He was bullied at school and has borne his illness with bravery and dignity, he is handsome and loyal and adores his little sisters.
Not always a bad name.

Ledkr Sat 07-Dec-13 21:35:55

Oh and it certainly doesn't upset me when people say stuff about his name either, he is who he is, name or not.

Showy Sat 07-Dec-13 21:44:26

Theonlyone, chin up. This thread is not about your wonderful boy. I think the important thing to remember about baby names is that when you ask for an opinion, you are asking for an opinion about the name alone. You have to stop yourself from hearing it as an opinion on your child, particularly when you're not the one who asked the question in the first place. Names do not make a child, we all know this. Every child transcends their name. But, people ask for opinions because they want to know how a name might be received. Some people are bolder in their opinions than others and I know when I've asked about names on here in the past, I've wanted complete honesty because you don't get it in real life. I've heard all sorts of things said about my dc's names on here and it doesn't bother me in the slightest. I like their names and I am happy with my choices.

We tend to form opinions and make assumptions and comparisons based on previous experiences. This is a useful skill to have. It's not a skill you can switch off and in the same way that we see faces in burnt toast and elephants in cloud formations, we see patterns in name trends where we live. I might reasonably make assumptions what a sibset named Elfijn, Peace and Honeysuckle is like, I might feel I can make an educated guess about certain aspects of their lives might be like. I may be similarly inclined to think of a sibset comprised of Ptolemy, Assumpta and Cressida as coming from a certain socioeconomic background. In much the same way, I think people would group together Chantal, Chardonnay and Braedon for example, through experience of them commonly occurring together and moreover, most often in groups sharing similar traits.

I think it's normal to have a gut reaction to names It's a foolish person who decides something about a child based on their name and treats them any differently because of it. But the gut reaction to a name, you can't help.

Now I'm just a middle England, boring MNer with children with boring names and lives but fwiw, I don't have any visceral reaction to the name Kyle and think it's perfectly fine. Not my kind of name but that's just a matter of preference. I think at a push, in England it suffers from its association with K names which aren't particularly well received by some people. I think I'd expect a Kyle to perhaps be Scottish. Beyond that, I have no basis for reference.

it wouldnt be one id choose myself but its a strong name and i like it. it makes me think of a dashing american with british heritage (the chap in desperate housewives and twin peaks!) and a shame there are so many negative comments.

i always find it funny when people (esp teachers) say "all the boys called kyle are naughty"; or perhaps just all little boys are naughty!

as for chavvy i disagree. and even if in some areas it does have that connotation presumably you would have to exhibit other chavvy behaviours to earn that title?!

well said showy. i do think theres a line though, between expressing a strong opinion, and being a bit rude. im sure iv probably crossed it myself and whilst its undoubtedly easier to be honest here than in real life we should all try not to make comments that might be hurtful (im not saying anyone has here btw). lots of pregnant emotional types on baby names......

Yellowcake Sat 07-Dec-13 23:23:18

My husband's lovely nephew is a Kyle, but despite his fabulousness, I've never much liked it as a name, somehow. I think it's very dated for me, to around the time of his birth, when I think it was very popular. It just seemed that around then ('my' Kyle is 27), there were a lot of Kyles and Adams, and they always had sisters called Chloe...

SantasLittleMonkeyButler Sun 08-Dec-13 00:23:46

Just to add, two out of three of my DCs have names that are routinely berated on MN! I just don't get all precious about it!

steppemum Sun 08-Dec-13 00:34:31

we have lots of Kyles round here it is very popular.

We are not in Scotland, and I am sure that in Scotland it has a different feel, as it is a strong Scottish name.

Unfortunately around here it is very much as Santaslittelmonkeybutler said. The families who have kids called Kyle would mostly be the sort that Jeremy Kyle has on his show.

And I agree with onesleep, they are closely related to Jayden, Kayden, Hayden. Their sisters are Keira and Kayley.

On the other hand, I always think that in the end the child makes the name their own.

Rooners Sun 08-Dec-13 07:21:37

I'm really sorry that you were upset by this, Theonly...I can only echo Showy's sentiments.

What occurs to me is that certain beautiful, strong and traditional names that have stood the test of time, over centuries perhaps, have sometimes been hijacked by less 'nice' people for other reasons - that they are easy to spell and shout say, being the obvious one.

Or that they sound aspirational, etc etc

and then they become trendy and a certain type of person will want to follow trends in the fear that they might not be quite normal enough otherwise. And want to fit in.

Thus you get a great name being totally ruined. It's also partly wanting to be different, the K thing, I think - among those with little or no imagination - so going from another one syllable 'common' name such as Carl, to spelling that with a K and then Kyle was a bit different, and still really easy to spell and so on and it just appealed to that sort of person.

It doesn't mean it's a crap name. It just means it's been taken over by horrible - or maybe just not very educated - people. And that certainly doesn't mean that intelligent people don't have sons called Kyle as well, or that the children of those who used it from a fashion perspective are not also lovely children.

It's merely associations that people are commenting on.
I hope that helps a bit but it probably doesn't - my efforts at analysis aren't often very successful!

Rooners Sun 08-Dec-13 07:22:51

bit like Burberry, I suppose. Hijacked.

MoFoe1 Sun 08-Dec-13 08:04:06

Thank you for all your opinions...divided indeed!!

rubyflipper Sun 08-Dec-13 08:19:41

I will never understand why folk post on Baby Names.

You asked for opinions (from a bunch of strangers) - you got 'em.

Fairylea Sun 08-Dec-13 08:22:28

We are in South Norfolk and almost every other boy in dds class is called kyle or Tyler (slight exaggeration but not much!) So for me it's a no no.

GideonKipper Sun 08-Dec-13 08:27:32

santa do bog off with your snidey little 'precious' comment.

usualsuspect Sun 08-Dec-13 08:28:36

I'm not sure why some people think that baby names is the place for their prejudiced opinions.

ImAnElfJeSuisUneElf Sun 08-Dec-13 09:32:23

My opinion of Kyle is that, mine.

FWIW, DD1s name is also considered chavvy, and I've been told to my face that I must have picked that because I was a teenage mum.

DD2s name - why have you chose an old lady name? Who do you think you are?

If you're trying to please others OP, you really can't. You never will. I love both our daughters names, they suit them beautifully, I really couldn't care less what others think.

southerngirl25599 Sun 08-Dec-13 09:47:48

Ignore them Theonlyone, I think Kyle is a lovely name. I don't see why people have to be so bloody rude about a name, if you don't like it that's fine but you don't have to be offensive about it

Theonlyoneiknow Sun 08-Dec-13 13:41:59

That was my point too southern, yes like or dislike a name that's fine, but some of the comments were downright mean and said AFTER I had said I had a DS with that name, that's what really got on my wick.

Kyle isn't very common where we are, which is a small village in rural Scotland. I don't even know who Jeremy Kyle is.

Thanks for the kind posts above BTW!

Do other countries that the same snobbery associated with names that Britain seems to have (or is it just MN?!)

OP, have you scored the name off your list now?!

MoFoe1 Sun 08-Dec-13 14:19:32

Not at's definitely still in my 'maybe''s one of the few names me and dh can agree on!..I asked for people's opinions and that's what I

Theonlyoneiknow Sun 08-Dec-13 14:24:25

There were only two names DP and I could agree on and Kyle was one of them, even still we didn't register his birth until the absolute last minute as couldn't make our mind up! DD was much easier and we 100% knew her name as soon as she was born!

to whoever posted about other countries and name snobbery; i dont think other countries have this to the same extent; my husband is american and from what iv seen names dont have the same class connotations. nor does it seem do they use all the aspirationally upper class names that middle england are so fond of. we seem to have a lot of people that are overly keen to make statements with a name: "im posh as fuck dont you know" or "im terribly unique and bohemian". i do hope the poor offspring of these statement namers have the personality to carve out their own identity, however twatty their name [and their parents...]. sometimes just best not to comment on a thread that makes you think "what a pretentious dickhead"; once i have that thought i tend to find my capacity for unbiased advice much diminished!

puddleduck16 Sun 08-Dec-13 15:59:17

I'm Scottish and wouldn't have thought of it as a strong Scottish name at all. I'm sorry (and don't want to cause offence) but I agree with the posters here that whenever I hear the name is usually being shouted by a certain type of family. Sorry.

My DS has a couple of friends called Kyle, really nice lads

EthethethethChrisWaddle Sun 08-Dec-13 21:11:19

A lot of the Kyle's I know are quite, erm, naughty. wink

Then there's my son, Kyle. Obviously he's a complete angel. And he is. At school he's an absolute delight, never been in trouble. He's a lovely smiley boy. He's very loud at home though.

Onesleeptillwembley I have a Jayden too! Bingo!! Two chavvy names in one family. Good job I gave my other 3 nice old fashioned biblical names. I must have suddenly turned middle class somewhere between 2002 and 2004! I wonder when it happened?

Theonlyoneiknow Don't get upset! I laugh at people's assumptions about names on here. And for all the stuff about teachers judging, I know plenty of teachers and they never judge on just a name. I also like to play bingo, from when they word chavvy is used to when someone mentions the names Jayden or Kyle! grin

Theonlyoneiknow Sun 08-Dec-13 23:21:58

Thanks ethethethe

Theonlyoneiknow Mon 09-Dec-13 22:57:43

iamanelfjusuisuneelf, will you share your DD1s name ?

manicinsomniac Mon 09-Dec-13 23:51:21

It's funny, I was going to say I think it sounds dated. I've never met a Kyle much younger than me (30) and I was at school with several. But everyone else seems to know loads so I guess it isn't dated at all!

I don't know. It's a nice enough name. I don't love it, don't hate it.

ilovelamp82 Tue 10-Dec-13 02:37:51

I named my son Kyle as it was my Mother's maiden name. She passed away when I was just 15 and I've pretty much known since then that I was going to name my first born son that. It is a strong Scottish name that for me has a lovely meaning. I like the way that it sounds and it makes me think of my mother when I hear it. I live in England now and have only met one other Kyle, who is also lovely. I have worked in recruitment all my life and have searched through millions of CV's over the years and it has always made me consider names and whether they would be suitable for a young child, a teenager right through to a Managing Director and Kyle I think is one of those names.

Don't let anyone advise you not to use a name. Clearly not everyone will like every name. Where half the population will think a name is classic or regal, half the population will think it is boring and overused. Everyone will know someone at school that they didn't like with such and such a name and everyone will have been in a class with 3 naughty so and so's.

Ultimately the name that you choose will definitely be liked by some and definitely disliked by others, some for rational reasons and some for irrational reasons just as there are names that you like and dislike.

So just choose a name that you and your partner like. Your child will give the name personality of it's own and anyone who would actually be so ridicilous as to pre judge a child based on their name shows a lack of intelligence really and says more about them than the child or parents.

ImAnElfJeSuisUneElf Tue 10-Dec-13 07:47:14

Yep, it's Abby. Not Abigail, just Abby. smile

Spaghettinetti Tue 10-Dec-13 08:21:58

Personally I don't like it... I've known 2 Kyles pans they've both been bullies.

Spaghettinetti Tue 10-Dec-13 08:22:35

I don't know where the pans came was meant to be an 'and'.

Theonlyoneiknow Tue 10-Dec-13 09:14:41

Great post ilovelamp82. Sorry about the loss of your mum. I totally agree about it being a name with a lovely meaning (and the Kyle of Lochalsh is a beautiful spot, right next to the Isle of Skye!).

I must admit this thread has given me a couple of unsettled evenings worrying if I have lumped my child with a name that he will forever be judged by.

iamanelfjesuisuneelf- I like Abby. I would never have said it's a "chavvy" name (although I don't tend to use that word). I know two Abbys here.

I am sure this whole 'judging' of a name is regional. Certainly here Kyle isn't thought of badly (not that I am aware of at least). I only know of one other. Will have to make sure we don't move to South Norfolk (based on a post above!)

The whole comments too about it being screeched across estates/shopping centres. Well, anyname being screeched by a parent sounds terrible, no matter what it is!!

sonnieboo Tue 10-Dec-13 11:13:24

I don't like it at all, sorry. It is very difficult to pronounce in any language other than English.

TheMuppetsSingChristmas Tue 10-Dec-13 11:36:53

When an OP specifically asks for opinions, then they're going to get them. It doesn't matter who else posts on the thread, people are still entitled to respond to the OP, surely? For what it's worth, Kyle in my current area tends to run in families with the negative connotations described quite fully upthread. In my husband's scottish side of the family it is a lovely traditional name, used for generations, and still very popular in the lovely middle class area most of them still live in. Two very, very different experiences and connotations of the same name. Take your pick.

fuzzywuzzy Tue 10-Dec-13 11:40:16

I like it, but I associate it with a really sweet guy at my previous workplace, he's American where I think this name is popular.

Theonlyoneiknow Tue 10-Dec-13 21:33:24

I brought this thread up at work today and they were all genuinely surprised it has been deemed by so many to be a 'chavvy' name. Maybe it is a regional perception then as mentioned above.

OP, where are you based ?!

Maybe when Jeremy Kyle (who I was oblivious of until this thread, now I do know who he is) leaves his show then the name might not be perceived so badly!

I still love it though, and it really suits DS. I cannot imagine him by any other name now (he is 4)

Onesleeptillwembley Tue 10-Dec-13 21:46:57

The connotations are nothing to go with Jeremy Kyle, it's the sort of people that have 'hijacked' (for want of a better word) the name. The type of people that possibly do go on the JK show, but nothing to do with his name at all.

MiaowTheCat Thu 12-Dec-13 13:38:58

Would depend on the area - round here it's definitely one that tends to be more concentrated among certain "interesting" areas of town shall we say? Having said that - the ones I've taught have generally been pretty sad cases - lovely sweet little lads inside an outer shell of bravado and swagger and with parents whose heads you just wanted to bang together and scream at them to bloody do a bit better by their kids.

Theonlyoneiknow Thu 12-Dec-13 14:27:39

What area is that Miaow?

I don't think i've ever see a name take such a slating sad

I don't like it. But to be fair, any name that isn't Duncan, Adrian or Gavin doesn't really meet with my approval.
I know DD has a couple in her year. She speaks very dispariginly about them.

TeamJavert Thu 12-Dec-13 16:52:10

I love it. I don't think of it as at all 'chavvy' and the Kyles I know,certainly aren't.

qazxc Thu 12-Dec-13 17:07:56

Personally i don't like it, probably because i immediately think of jeremy kyle.

Lebkuchenlover Fri 13-Dec-13 07:11:05

I'm not keen on Kyle. But I do like Jeremy.

I like Kyle and dont think there's anything wrong with it. I am Scottish, living in Scotland and think its a good Scottish name grin

I think it's an ok name. I absolutely hate when folk say "it's a naughty boys name". Since when does a name determine whether a child us naughty or not? I find it especially distasteful when teachers says this! Have you written off children from the beginning?

Theonlyoneiknow Fri 13-Dec-13 09:20:16

I know christmasbungle, this name crops up on nearly every thread where teachers are asked their opinions on names (with negative comments). Surely teachers should be leading by example, and not pigeon holing children before they have even met them.

I hope when DS starts school next year he isn't met with such judgement about his name before the teacher has even met him.Or, if he ever meets the majority of posters on this thread !

DingDongUriGelleryOnHigh Fri 13-Dec-13 09:23:22

I don't think its ...chavvy <spits> or common but I think if you try harder you could come up with something a bit better.

It just lacks imagination IMO.

Theonlyoneiknow Sat 14-Dec-13 08:43:57

Lacks imagination? In that case you must also mean every other name on the baby name lists.

PenguinsDontEatStollen Sat 14-Dec-13 08:49:33

It isn't my personal favourite style of name, but then the names I have chosen probably aren't yours.

I think it's fine. I think it sounds nice with a longer middle name (assuming you are planning to use one) and best with surnames that aren't super short (it would sound awful with ours).

ZombiePenguin Sat 14-Dec-13 10:05:10

I don't get the whole stereotyping. Where I live (not in Scotland), and as a teacher, I have met many lovely Kyles, many naughty Kyles, many cheeky Kyles, many average Kyles and so on. We are in one of the areas which people probably associate 'chavvy' (hate the word) with. Every Kyle is an individual, they make the name their own. Personally, I don't like it for the sound, I love Kai though, and anyone who negatively judges you for naming your child Kyle is a bit hmm

DingDongUriGelleryOnHigh Mon 16-Dec-13 13:45:29

Onlyone, Its kind of like calling your baby "Mark" or something. Yknow, lacks imagination. Baby names lists are big enough to pore through to find something you can hang your hat on.

Theonlyoneiknow Mon 16-Dec-13 15:08:24

I think you have misread my posts. I am not the OP i just,replied because i was so upset about all the comments as my DS, âge 4, is called Kyle. So, so far his name is chavvy, only given to kids who arent going to make anything of their lives, naughty in class and it lacks imagination to boot.

Yeah, i feel shit

EthethethethChrisWaddle Mon 16-Dec-13 22:38:12

You could say that almost every name lacks imagination, unless you actually made it up yourself.

Considering my Kyle is the only one in his school I wouldn't say it was that common a name either.

I actually think the OP posted this a joke, knowing what people were going to say. It's all so predictable on here.

FlatAsSantasSacks Mon 16-Dec-13 22:46:01

I know someone who called her boys Kyle and kray.

OhCaptainDarling Mon 16-Dec-13 22:53:12

I think the answer is IMHO.
If you see your child's name listed in a thread title you have 2 opinions.

1)Open and read, if it's negative, decide that everyone is an idiot and you've called your child the most perfect name for them. And leave it at that. Water off a ducks back etc.

2) Don't open the thread!

FWIW - I don't really like the name, but I don't hate it either. It's just not for style. In my view it's not the strongest Scottish name you could pick, I'd go for Kerr or Keir. I'm Scottish The rudest naughtiest most horrible little boy I know is called Hugo! Make of that what you will!

OhCaptainDarling Mon 16-Dec-13 22:54:01

My style < doh>

MoominsYonisAreScary Mon 16-Dec-13 22:54:42

Some people are so rude!

The , pay no attention. Ds1 is connor and all the same things have been said about his name. He's an adult now and his name has done him no harm what so ever.

Theonlyoneiknow Fri 20-Dec-13 22:34:53

ethethethe, i think you might be right ré the OP. I already know there will be another Kyle in his class at school but other than that i dont know if any others.

ohcaptain i did see the thread and suspectéd it would be exactly like this, but i still opened it. dS is Kyle, it suits him and thats it!

Thanks moomins, see i love Connor!! Think its s great boys name

badtime Fri 20-Dec-13 23:41:18

Mumsnet does appear to think that a lot of Scottish and/or Irish names are chav 'naughty' names - Kyle, Callum, Liam, Conor...

It's not very nice, and I don't think it is very representative of actual real-world people.

looki Sat 21-Dec-13 15:08:55

It's not to my taste. I only know of one person with this name (my friend's stepson) and when I orig heard it, I admit I associated it with all the not so positive comments listed above.

I didn't know it was a Scottish name. Perhaps there it is a well thought of name, the same as Connor in Ireland?

I think while threads such as this one upset some people, if you are really looking for feedback and opinions about a name asking strangers on the internet will yield more honest answers than asking people in real life and secondly you get a broader outlook rather than your local area, both of which can only be a good thing. Either way if you like it, use it. You should use a name you love rather than a name everyone else loves.

tiamariaxxx Sat 21-Dec-13 23:01:10

I like the name but wouldnt use it, My OH has a friend called kyle whos in his late 20s now but his son is kyle jnr and they are just horrible (not that im been nasty calling a child horrible but hes a proper mini me of big kyle way he acts and talks)

emmaliz Sun 22-Dec-13 11:19:42

I have taught two Kyles (secondary school) and they have been absolute delights.
However I tend to treat pupils based on their behaviour, actions etc not in response to their name! To judge someone based on their name equates to judging someone based on their ethnicity, religion or sexuality to me and so I don't! Neither does any other teacher I know in real life. More interested in getting them to do well tbh

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