Old fashioned German boys' names?

(88 Posts)
CantThinkOfANC Mon 25-Nov-13 22:34:57

DP and I have decided TTC in a few months and are having a good-natured bicker about what to call our DC. He is German, I am English and we live in the UK. For the time being (at least ten years) we will stay here.

His favourite name, Finn, was taken by his best friends back home six years ago. He would like very old, Germanic names that no one has heard of and I am stumped. Either they are ridiculous (Adalhard anyone?) or 'too modern', e.g. Max (although I know it's an old name but it's popular now).

He doesn't want: modern, popular, anything that his uncles/close male relatives were called.

I like (and he has vetoed): Karl, Max, Edward, Edmund, Oskar, Georg.

I am beginning to wonder if anything fits the bill? It's all highly theoretical, but good fun smile

Girl's name is sorted as my favourite for many, many years is Dorothea and I won't be budged/he's given in.

I've seen some excellent suggestions on here before - any ideas please? My prime motivation is that I suspect he is actually serious and I'd like to find some names that won't lead to our child(ren) getting bullied the second they go to school! I also have a name no one can spell and it's dead annoying. Don't want to lumber my kids with the same.

vinyard68 Mon 25-Nov-13 22:52:28

Hm, how about Fabian? Theo is also nice, works well in both languages and has a traditional ring to it. Alexander? If it's good enough for the royal baby smile...

Berthold (Bertie)
Leopold (Leo)
Reiner
Siegfried (freddy)
Oswin (Ozzy)
Luther
Hugo

Verycold Mon 25-Nov-13 22:54:59

Tobias
Sebastian
Friedrich
Johannes
Henning

CantThinkOfANC Mon 25-Nov-13 22:58:10

I like Alexander but he does have a dodgy friend called Alex think it's too popular. I like Tobias and Sebastian (Seb / Basti) very much but they have also been vetoed.

Anything that is in the top 100 is out. And he's also basing it on what he remembers of Germany rather than experiences here with children's names (our friends are mostly non-English and have named their children accordingly so he can't really judge what's popular/known here).

Shente Mon 25-Nov-13 22:58:14

Thorolf, Thorston, Johannes, Josef, Malte, Matthias, Stefan

or how about something the same in both languages? Peter, Jonathan, Sebastian

Good luck!

CantThinkOfANC Mon 25-Nov-13 22:59:11

I think Luther and Oswin are more where he's headed but I hate Oswin and am not sold on Luther either...

Verycold Mon 25-Nov-13 23:01:01

Luther is not a German first name

Benedikt
Valentin?

CantThinkOfANC Mon 25-Nov-13 23:01:02

Thanks Shente. I will have a punt on Josef and Peter. Matthias was also vetoed!

sandfrog Mon 25-Nov-13 23:01:04

Leon
Hugo
Fabian
Vincent
Julian
Arnold
Elias
Christian
Samuel
Theodor
Sebastian
Wolfram
Dominik
Emil
Jonathan
Richard
Philipp
Alexander
Marius
Thomas
Otto
Lucas
Noah
Daniel
Gregor
Peter
Tobias
Felix
Stefan
Matthias

Verycold Mon 25-Nov-13 23:01:52

Lars
Lasse

Verycold Mon 25-Nov-13 23:03:48

Kilian
Magnus

Luther is not a German first name

I just found it on a German baby name site.

TheNunsOfGavarone Mon 25-Nov-13 23:06:10

Wolfgang
Claus
Anton
Axel (possibly more Danish though)
Johann
Franz

Lots of lovely names, I'm quite envious of you for having this decision to make!

mamaduckbone Mon 25-Nov-13 23:10:25

Apparently Josef is a very old mannish in Germany, as my German speaking niece was horrified that we chose it ( with English spelling ) for ds2!

Opheliabumps Mon 25-Nov-13 23:14:10

Same make up here, German DH, UK me. We went with Philip. Have to say, it's a sod of a name, can't get anything with his name on (pens, toy lorries, plates, cups etc), unlike his more commonly named sister.

Philip
Johannes/Johann
Willhelm
Otto
Sven
Jan
Christof
Heinrich
Jens
Harald
Leonhard

CantThinkOfANC Mon 25-Nov-13 23:15:27

Apparently Josef is a very old mannish in Germany

His precise words were, "No one who is still alive, yes those names are old but the people are still alive." Which I took to mean the previous generation - in his case that's Karl, which I love and is 'too modern'.

His aunts and mother are all named fantastic Hildegard-style names (e.g. Irmhild) so I can see where he gets it from...

Thank you for all your suggestions. I am compiling a list of the best ones to spring on him at an appropriate moment.

TheNunsOfGavarone Mon 25-Nov-13 23:19:07

Hildebrand - but I doubt your DS would like being nicknamed Hilda!

Otto is great Ophelia

ancientbuchanan Mon 25-Nov-13 23:22:49

Ruprecht/ Rupert
Albrecht/Albert
Franz/ Frank/ Francis
Wilhelm
Richard
Gottfried
Franz-Xaver
Heinrich
Sylvester
Herman

DH suggests Wotan but not in all seriousness.. and don't go for Tristan, Parsifal, as some of my cousins did.

If he starts to irritate you, try Willibald ( BTW, predictive text offered Milliband as opposed to Willibald)

Itsallabout Mon 25-Nov-13 23:22:56

Wolfgang
Gunther
Tilmann
Heiko
Detlef
Christian
Wilfried
Mattias
Frederik
Heinrich
Constantin
Hans
Florian
Klaus
Nils
Lars
Linus
Felix

garlictrivia Mon 25-Nov-13 23:27:28

Oh, I like Wolfram!

Do any of these hit DH's button, OP?

BoreOfWhabylon Mon 25-Nov-13 23:27:51

Wolf / Wulf

TheNunsOfGavarone Mon 25-Nov-13 23:28:02

Willibald grin

Caip Mon 25-Nov-13 23:30:32

Volker
Jens
Joerg
Axel

TheNunsOfGavarone Mon 25-Nov-13 23:30:52

Ulrich?

ancientbuchanan Mon 25-Nov-13 23:31:19

Roland
Gunther
Adam
Dietrich

Sparrowghost Mon 25-Nov-13 23:31:34

Werner (pronounced verner)
Reinhardt
Hans
Erwin
Heinrich
Johann
Anton
Wolfgang
Joachim
Ambros
Falco
Einhard
Emil
Gerold
Emerich
Erkenbald/Erkenbert/Erkenfried
Gerbold
Gottbert
Gerolf
Hartlieb
Hartwig
Walter/Walther
Waldebert
Wernfried

What about names from his family tree?

ancientbuchanan Mon 25-Nov-13 23:35:04

DH points out that a) Herrmann is the oldest German name is it is really Arminius, the Roman General who was up there, and b) it goes really well with Dorothea as Goethe wrote a book called Herrmann und Dorothea.

I love Dorothea too, both English and German. My DGM was Dorothea.

Rosieliveson Mon 25-Nov-13 23:36:33

Is Erik German or old enough?

frogs Mon 25-Nov-13 23:37:09

Kaspar
Konrad
Gerhard (very old-mannish though)
Günther (ditto)
Lothar (pronounced Loh-tar)
Walther
Anton
Ferdinand
Eberhard
Bernhard (or Berndt)
Alois (very catholic/bavarian, though)
Albrecht (ditto)
Arthur
Cornelius
Constantin/Konstantin

The trouble with very Germanic names is they went out of fashion for a reason - for people born in the 30s and 40s you can pretty much tell their parents' politics from the names. So lots of the really Wagner-esque Germanic names are likely to have bad connotations in Germany.

There are some specifically north German names which manage the Germanic thing without sounding fascist - I know a Timo, Tils, Tilmann, Malik for eg.

Hardrockhallelujah Mon 25-Nov-13 23:37:21

I love Otto - my DP vetoed it for my DS unfortunately :-(

telsa Mon 25-Nov-13 23:46:24

Goetz
Heinrich
August
Erdmut
Adalbert
Clemens
Gottlieb
Botho
Ludwig

Cremolafoam Tue 26-Nov-13 00:04:49

Jürgen

Ham69 Tue 26-Nov-13 00:16:16

German boys I know;
Finn
Finlay
Oskar
Matthias
Luca
Magnus

Helmuth <very helpful>

Footle Tue 26-Nov-13 00:22:24

Try him with Detlef.

MrsTwgtwf Tue 26-Nov-13 01:05:25

Gustav.

Gobbolinothewitchscat Tue 26-Nov-13 01:43:09

Nico
Karsten
Moritz

Alarick

ArabellaBeaumaris Tue 26-Nov-13 12:14:07

Is Tassilo a German name?

TheNunsOfGavarone Tue 26-Nov-13 19:38:25

I found this site of German names by popularity from the 1890s through to the present day. Fascinating browsing!

http://www.beliebte-vornamen.de/3741-1890er-jahre.htm

StellaLuna82 Tue 26-Nov-13 20:03:11

I love Otto, it is actually on my list, although I do have one reservation - does it sound in English too much like what you might say to a child: 'otto!' when you make a mistake?

thegreylady Tue 26-Nov-13 20:13:43

My dh's cousin has dgs named Heinrich, Erich and Lukas. They are German and live in Germany.

some good suggestions; just makes me a bit edgy that you are so excited about names and its not always that straightforward to get, and stay pregnant; hope it worksout though.

HectorVector Tue 26-Nov-13 20:22:51

Jan
Otto
Peter
Hans
Uwe
Thomas
Roland
Walter
Valentin
Torben
Till
Thorsten
Florian
Lukas
Dietmar

That exhausted my knowledge of German names completely.

notquitenormal Tue 26-Nov-13 20:31:39

All of the German men I know:
Florian
Juergen
Tomas
Josef
Franz
Rainer
Ulric
Michael
Peter
Benno
Frank
Thorsten
Gero
Boris
Andre
Heiner

The youngest and nicest person is Benno smile

MummyBeerest Tue 26-Nov-13 20:46:17

OMG I love Benno!

I met a baby Hendrik the other day. Is that more Scandinavian?

Varya Tue 26-Nov-13 20:49:19

Otto
Wolfgang
Adolf
Axel
Hanz

Rumplestiltskinismyname Tue 26-Nov-13 20:54:25

Please call any child you have Lars. I love the name! It's old but cool IMO!

mellicauli Tue 26-Nov-13 21:01:03

My German grandfather was Otto Gustav Maximilian. A hefty burden for a baby to hear, I always thought!

DorrisM Tue 26-Nov-13 21:05:27

Kurt?

AngiBolen Tue 26-Nov-13 21:06:59

Kurt
Rolf
Franz
Erik
Felix
Oswold
Lukas
Bruno
Huggo
Otto - love it!
Jonas - This is what I'd go for.

AngiBolen Tue 26-Nov-13 21:07:44

I agree, Lars is very cool. I was thinking this only yesterday.

AngiBolen Tue 26-Nov-13 21:08:11

Oh, and Boris is lovely!!!!

MissWimpyDimple Tue 26-Nov-13 21:11:53

My relatives are

Harald
Fritz (Friedrich)
Helmut
Stefan
Markus
Boris
Klaus
Sören
Martin
Hans
Leo
Heinrich
Freddi
Berndt
Torsten
Georg
Harald
Thomas
Walter

That's about as old fashioned as you can get wink

TheNunsOfGavarone Tue 26-Nov-13 21:18:45

Mellicauli - Otto Gustav Maximilian is a fantastic name! It sounds like a prince. I don't think Otto is too much for a baby and surely they wouldn't have used the whole caboodle all at once....... would they? If you don't mind I may consider it when the time comes for me to adopt a new cat, assuming the cat was agreeable to the idea!

CantThinkOfANC Tue 26-Nov-13 21:54:48

Some of these are brilliant, thank you smile I love German names so I'm glad I have an excuse!

Ilovekitty I know, and thanks for your good wishes. I'm going to save this list and keep it for when it's needed smile One of the reasons we have finally decided on a date rather than 'sometime in the future' is that some very close friends have been trying for a long time and it made us realise that we too needed to get a move on. The close friends told us last week that they have finally got a bfp (there are practical reasons why they told us so early on) and we all nearly cried when they told us - it got a bit emotional as it's been a long time coming.

Footle Tue 26-Nov-13 22:09:37

Otto Maximilian Gustav is the proper order - then he can be OMG.

mellicauli Tue 26-Nov-13 22:10:44

I am so pleased that Otto Gustav Maximilian is to be used again..it is a name if substance as you rightly point out!

TheNunsOfGavarone Tue 26-Nov-13 22:26:48

Glad you like the idea - I hope the cat does too grin

jkklpu Tue 26-Nov-13 22:33:31

Ekkehard
Eberhard
Albrecht
Carl-Heinz
Hans-Wolf
Ruediger

strongsinglemumlookingforfun Tue 26-Nov-13 22:41:53

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ozymandiusking Tue 26-Nov-13 22:42:07

Rainer pronounced Riner

strongsinglemumlookingforfun Tue 26-Nov-13 22:58:10

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EspressoMonkey Wed 27-Nov-13 07:52:23

Ludo
Axl

celestialsquirrels Wed 27-Nov-13 08:21:57

Florian

abear Wed 27-Nov-13 08:29:57

Felix

mrswarbouys Wed 27-Nov-13 08:43:27

Fritz

TinyTear Wed 27-Nov-13 08:48:39

a friend of mine has a Ludwig

Catzenobia Wed 27-Nov-13 14:32:16

I have an Otto. Think it is a fantastic name and according to my German friend v v old-fashioned, but it suits DS.

BanjoPlayingTiger Wed 27-Nov-13 14:36:58

What about Augustus?

Weegiemum Wed 27-Nov-13 14:38:13

My dh is from an english/German family.

Family names (including his) are Peter, Paul, Jurgen, Hans, Heinz, Gunther.

interregnum Wed 27-Nov-13 14:42:34

Can't believe Varya suggested Adolf, sure there was a reason that name
fell out of favour.

TheNunsOfGavarone Wed 27-Nov-13 20:38:05

racks brains to think of why that might be.

The trend for Adolf is quite interesting in the German boys name site I linked (or tried to link above). It seems to have peaked in popularity in the 1890s and 1900s but by the time of Hitler's rise to power it struggles to make the top 30. From there it falls off a cliff halfway through the war, hopefully never to rise again. It's very hard to look at it objectively - I don't think it's a very nice name and certainly not when compared with some of the wonderful names suggested on this thread, but is that because of the inextricable link with Hitler?

One dodgy name that was almost constantly at the top in the 20s and 30s is Horst. But so was the inoffensive sounding (to me at least) Hans, which seems to be completely out of fashion now. Did Hans acquire something of a Nazi aura or is it just an unglamorous old man's name equivalent to Norman or Ronald in this country?

sorry i re read and realised it might sound a bit negativeand i realise its just lighthearted and a fun and exciting time, a close friend of mine has had a long journey which makes me not want others to go through all the hope and sadness she has (which is extremely unlikely!)

Frikadellen Wed 27-Nov-13 22:26:46

Hannes
Hans Christian
Friedrich
Ludweig
Albrecht
Heinrich
Emil

Or have a look here

family tree of german royals ALL dead :)

Mushypeasandchipstogo Mon 02-Dec-13 20:58:56

My grandfather was Johann Jogar but I like the names of Werner or Lucas.

badtime Mon 02-Dec-13 21:51:03

My favourites are (the very old) Albrecht and Waldemar.

(I know Waldemar is more common in Poland these days, but it is originally German)

pressingbuttons Tue 04-Feb-14 18:24:49

Christoph, Markus, Wolfgang, Kai ......?

tammytoby Tue 04-Feb-14 22:23:45

"Christoph, Markus, Kai ......?"

I wouldn't call those old fashioned. They are very much the age 30-40 generation.

Old fashioned German names are Otto, Wolfram, Heinrich, Walter, Dietmar, Franz, Friedrich etc.

Yay4may Tue 04-Feb-14 22:54:19

Someone way back in the thread had Henning. Love this!!

MaKettle Tue 04-Feb-14 23:07:42

Conrad?

OpalQuartz Wed 05-Feb-14 00:27:54

A family member has a baby Hans. smile (They live in the US though)

HanSolo Wed 05-Feb-14 00:44:21

Leopold
Sigmund/Sigismund
Heinrich

HoneyandRum Wed 05-Feb-14 20:40:32

My DD had a Henning in her class (we are in Germany) who was a great kid - she had quite a crush on him and I don't blame her.

German boys we know:
Albert
Johan
Johannes
Tiberio
Paul-Phillip
Maximillian (Maxi)
Lukas
Jonas
Sven

Inaminutenow Wed 05-Feb-14 20:48:42

Willi
Walter
Dietmar
Bernd
Richard
Frank
Hans
Hans-Peter
Georg
Ingo
Thilo
Ludger
Franz
Robert
Günther
Wolfram
Helmut
Hilmar
Heinz

HanSolo Wed 05-Feb-14 21:16:23

Ooh- I thought of Lohengrin earlier! Son of Parzifal... very old name.
I cannot stop hearing Wagner playing in my head now <sigh>

zenoushka Thu 06-Feb-14 00:49:41

Till

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