Opinions of Séamus?

(107 Posts)
ChrisTheSheep Mon 28-Oct-13 14:25:47

We've just found out that DC2 is, in fact, DS2, and I'm a bit thrown because I'm dreadful about picking out boys' names...

DH is Irish, I am English/Scottish (my Mum is from the Western Isles), and we had always said we'd give our children Irish or Gaelic names. The problem is, the only one we seem to be able to compromise on for a boy is Séamus, and I'm getting distinct "I don't like it" vibes from my mother.

I just wondered what other people think of the name?

We live in the UK, not Ireland, but we do have a very Irish surname. Other family connections are that there are lots of Jameses and Séamuses (sp?) on DH's side, and FIL was friends with Séamus Heaney, so I suppose it would be a nice tribute. DS1 is Eoin Pádraig, and DS2's middle name will be Peter after my dad. My mum says, "why don't you just use James instead?" but I think that's a bit odd considering DS1 has a very Irish name: we'd like the two to be similarly Celtic, if that makes sense.

Opinions, comments and virtual slaps all gladly received!

foofooyeah Mon 28-Oct-13 14:27:03

Love it.

Mrspebble Mon 28-Oct-13 14:27:27

Absolutely love it.. It is one of my favourite names.

Clargo55 Mon 28-Oct-13 14:29:56

I think it's lovely and goes great with his brother name. I don't think James sits with it so well, you could keep James for a middle name if you have any more wink

Love it and goes with Eoin much better than James does.

EmpireBiscuit Mon 28-Oct-13 14:33:02

LOVE it!

TwentiethCenturyGirl Mon 28-Oct-13 14:33:47

I love it. It's on my list of names.

I think it goes perfectly with your DS's name too.

TheGirlOnTheLanding Mon 28-Oct-13 14:34:25

Love it, was on our short list (but we had DDs in the end) and goes really well with his brother's name too.

TheNunsOfGavarone Mon 28-Oct-13 14:37:22

It's lovely and it's not your mum's decision grin

ChrisTheSheep Mon 28-Oct-13 14:38:58

Thank goodness people like it!

We had a dilemma the first time round as DH wanted to call DS1 Paddy, but I felt that was a bit of a "make or break" name outside of Ireland: you'd have to be able to carry it off. With our surname, it would have been the equivalent of calling a Scottish child Jock MacSporran! I was worried that people might think Séamus would be the same. DS1 is Eoinín for short, and we thought Séamie/Séamí went quite well with that too.

ChrisTheSheep Mon 28-Oct-13 14:40:10

I have to admit to being a teeny bit disappointed we don't get to use our choice for a girl: I really loved it. It was what my mum wanted to call me, but she backed out because of the aforementioned fear of Gaelic spellings...

Guitargirl Mon 28-Oct-13 14:41:17

I never post on baby names threads but I had to come on here and say I love that name - one of my favourite boys names. If we ever had another boy (not likely) that would be at the top of my list.

Does your mum not like it because she feels as though you already have lots of Irish names?

Beautiful name - please don't pick James over it!

scarevola Mon 28-Oct-13 14:45:11

I like it - perhaps because I was at school with a rather dashing one!

ChrisTheSheep Mon 28-Oct-13 14:46:21

My mum has a bit of a troubled relationship to her Gaelic background: grew up a Gaelic speaker but then went to an English-speaking school, was picked on for not speaking the language, and promptly forgot it all in self-defence. Then, when she was older, she was compelled to take the Native Speakers Gaelic Higher exams by the school, even though she didn't want to (she wanted to do French!) and she really wasn't a native speaker by that point. I think it's always been a bit of a sore point and she finds it hard to embrace.

ChrisTheSheep Mon 28-Oct-13 14:46:54

Sorry: that was in response to Guitargirl...

BrianTheMole Mon 28-Oct-13 14:49:32

I love that name.

bludgerwitch Mon 28-Oct-13 14:50:41

I love Seamus too, it's a fab name.

galwaygirl Mon 28-Oct-13 14:53:19

My DS very nearly had this name but I didn't think I could handle the mispronunciation here in Sweden. I don't think you'd have that problem.
Love Séamí as a nickname, so cute.
What was your girls name you couldn't use? X

Weegiemum Mon 28-Oct-13 14:54:07

I'm in Scotland, and my dc are bilingual English/Gaelic. Ds's best friend is Seamus and there are several others in their (Gaelic medium) school.
I still think some of the older generation have an anti Gaelic/Irish attitude as it was literally beaten out of some of them. Use what you like - but Seamus is a great name.

YDdraigGoch Mon 28-Oct-13 14:56:39

Great name, as you have Irish connections. But my DH, who is of Irish extraction and has Irish names (and surname) gets fed up of people saying "Are yo Irish?). He considers himself English!

Littlecherublegs Mon 28-Oct-13 14:57:27

I like it, love the nn Shay!

ChrisTheSheep Mon 28-Oct-13 15:28:04

GalwayGirl, the girl's name was Eilidh. My mum always tells me how much she loved it and how she didn't use it for fear of people mispronouncing or misspelling it. She gave me a nice, sensible English name (though it's very popular in Scotland) which nobody could spell either! I figure you may as well embrace the Gaelic and/or Irish grin

DramaAlpaca Mon 28-Oct-13 15:31:06

It's a great name & goes very well with DS1's name. Go for it!

ChrisTheSheep Mon 28-Oct-13 15:31:50

Cherub, DH was saying he really like Shay/Sé as a nickname, and I think Séamí is sweet too.

DdraigGoch, there's no danger of DH considering himself English! wink

neunundneunzigluftballons Mon 28-Oct-13 15:32:16

Love it. Shay is my favourite shortened version.

MinesAPintOfBlood Mon 28-Oct-13 15:37:33

Your mum has had her turn choosing baby names, now its your turn.

I did come on to say "Only if you're Irish" but you are, so that's fine. And you are aware there was a Harry Potter character "Seamus" which is where my mind immediately goes with word association, but that's not a problem really.

April13 Mon 28-Oct-13 15:49:48

I love it smile I am trying to stick to Scottish names too, but I would comprimise on anything Gaelic too. My name is Gaelic so I am biased. I am struggling for a boys name though.....

blondiep14 Mon 28-Oct-13 15:54:30

Absolutely love it.
Wanted it for all 3 DC!

squoosh Mon 28-Oct-13 16:01:34

LOVE Séamus! Séamí is a lovely nickname for a child and Shay/Sé works brilliantly for a man.

Your Mum has named her own kids, I wouldn't let her opinions bother you too much.

ChrisTheSheep Mon 28-Oct-13 16:02:26

April, I had so many alternative girls' names if DH took against Eilidh. Boys' names are trickier for me!

MinesAPint, I don't remember Seamus in HP: he's not a ratbag, is he?

FarelyKnuts Mon 28-Oct-13 16:04:37

Lone voice of dissent here (Irish person living in Ireland). To me its a real old mans name and not one I'd hear used for anyone under 60yo these days unless passed down as son of fathers name.
There are so many fabulous Irish boys names but Séamus is not one of them imo.

Weegiemum Mon 28-Oct-13 16:07:29

April, I can offer my son and his friends names : Logan, Lewis (Leodhas), Harris, Lorn, Kyle, Aidan (or Aodhan), Ruariadh, Brodie, Brendan, Col, Pol (Paul), Alasdair, Duncan.

Gaelic etc names are great.

And, Chris, Eilidh is an awesome name. My best friend at school was Eilidh, my dd1's bf is also Eilidh. Dd1's best friend loves that Helensburgh (near us) is called Baile nan Eilidh in Geelic!

Bakingtins Mon 28-Oct-13 16:36:06

Seamus in HP is a minor gryffindor character and a goodie, no negative connotations there. He saves Harry's life in "The Deathly Hallows" by conjuring a patronus charm.

ChrisTheSheep Mon 28-Oct-13 17:20:17

Phew, Bakingtins, I'm glad he's not a horrid character!

Weegiemum, I love Ruaraidh for a boy, but DH refuses to consider it, the rotten so-and-so...

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ChrisTheSheep Mon 28-Oct-13 17:23:13

Gah! Sorry, FairlyKnuts, I think my phone went insane for a moment there! I was trying to say, no worries about the dissent: I'm trying to get a sense of both sides of the coin.

FarelyKnuts Mon 28-Oct-13 18:12:57

Ha. Your phone having a fit was like being called in by your Ma when you were wee grin

KateCroydon Mon 28-Oct-13 19:18:20

Beautiful name. Plus it means private eye in Yiddish.

LadyRochford Mon 28-Oct-13 19:24:36

Love it. Wish I could use it but I think you need an Irish connection. Love Angus and Alistair too but am not Scottish so same problem.

ChrisTheSheep Mon 28-Oct-13 19:42:07

A potential career choice for a grown-up DS2, Kate? wink

TheFuckersonInquiry Mon 28-Oct-13 19:50:29

Brill name grin

ChrisTheSheep Tue 29-Oct-13 14:37:28

Thanks, all! It's definitely on the list: now, we just need to try to compromise on one or two more options, in case the little chap doesn't "look like" one name or another, if you see what I mean!

JoJoManon Tue 29-Oct-13 14:49:00

I am with FarelyKnuts on this. I am really not a fan personally.
As an Irish person (though living in UK), I concur that it is an old mans name in Ireland; never met anyone under 30 called Seamus. But if you like it, go for it, it's no ones business but yours.
That said, if you do want a current Irish name, that Irish people call their children, it's worth looking at the top 100 names in Ireland for the last few years. You don't get that many Irish names on it but Conor features regularly, as does Sean, Fionn (Finn), and Oisin.


squoosh Tue 29-Oct-13 14:52:57

I know one tiny Séamus in Dublin and one Sé. I think it's having a revival. Personally Séamus seems much fresher to me than boring old Oisín.

KateCroydon Tue 29-Oct-13 17:11:15

ChristheSheep, quite.

ChrisTheSheep Tue 29-Oct-13 18:29:29

JoJo, Squoosh, our other choice at the moment is Oisín! wink. Séan is lovely too, but with an Eoin we can't really have a Séan. It would be like calling your sons Henry and Harry, or William and Billy, I guess.

The problem we have is that some other names DH has suggested (e.g. Tomás, Mícheál) sound a bit odd to my non-Irish ear, as they're so close to the English equivalents, but with a different vowel sound or stress pattern. I know that's my own oddness, but still...

Most of the names I've suggested are too "pagan" for DH who, though a very lapsed Catholic indeed, is prone to fits of religiousness when picking names, and would like a saint's name. Séamus obviously equates to James, and apparently there were a couple of Saint Oisíns hanging around in Louth at one point.

He did suggest calling the baby "Lawrence O'Toole [surname]", but I hope he was joking.

ChrisTheSheep Tue 29-Oct-13 18:32:10

Laurence O'Toole, even. While a saint's name is fine, a saint's name with added surname is a bit much!

Florrieboo Wed 30-Oct-13 00:20:23

I am Irish and I really dislike it. It's got a fuddy duddy Oirish feel to it for me.

However there are very few Irish names that I do actually like.

AnyKormaFucker Wed 30-Oct-13 00:35:36

I have enjoyed reading the responses on this thread as mum to a ten year old seamus smile

I can honestly say that I have never once regretted choosing this name and DS loves it too

He is seamie to me and shay to his friends

We also opted to give him James as a middle name so he has that choice when he is older to just use James if he wanted to and tbh no one we have ever met apart from Irish family know that seamus is James so it hasn't mattered

ScoutJemAndBoooooooooooo Wed 30-Oct-13 07:12:24

Seamus is lovely. What about Donal?

ChrisTheSheep Thu 31-Oct-13 22:19:53

Scout: we couldn't use Donal, as we know a Donal who has given the name associations, as it were. It's not that it's not a nice name, but it's like I could never call a girl Emma, as two different Emmas picked on me all throughout high school and pretty much ruined the name for me. It's sad when that happens.

AnyKormaFucker, glad to hear your Seamie is happy! I can't imagine DS1 being 10, let alone DS2 - it seems ages away. grin

Just for the record, other choices so far are Cillian, Oisín, Liam and Ruaridh. What do you think? My least favourite is probably Liam, as our surname begins with an L, and I'm not too fond of the first name-last name alliteration thing. I love Cillian and Ruaridh, but I think DH is most fond of Liam.

NuggetofPurestGreen Thu 31-Oct-13 22:29:56

I love the name Cillian but like Séamus too. And I know a young Séamus...well he's in his 30s but under 60

Also I'm Irish but sure on how to pronounce Eilidh blush. Is it Eye-lee? Or Ay-lee?

NuggetofPurestGreen Thu 31-Oct-13 22:30:28

Not sure how to pronounce it I mean.

ChrisTheSheep Thu 31-Oct-13 22:32:39

It might be confusing as it's a Gaelic choice from my side of the family: I'm not sure you get Eilidhs in Ireland. You say it "Ay-lee", just like ceilidh, the dance, but without the c.

weeblueberry Thu 31-Oct-13 22:32:59

I just said it out loud to DP and he loved it (as did I!). Our last name is very Irish though and I'd worry he'd sound like a pub...

ChrisTheSheep Thu 31-Oct-13 22:33:09

There are so many lovely Irish names for girls...

Bunbaker Thu 31-Oct-13 22:33:11

I like it. How do you get the accent over the e on a laptop keyboard?

ChrisTheSheep Thu 31-Oct-13 22:33:49

Has a bit of a melancholy feeling about having another boy

emblosion Thu 31-Oct-13 22:34:39

Séamus is a good name, every Séamus I know is really cool, although this could be coincidence!

Love all your short list, which is very similar to what mine was, I have an Oisín and an Aidan.

Other names on our shortlist were:
- Cian
- Faolan
- Ronan
- Niall

You'd be grand with any of the ones on your list though.

ChrisTheSheep Thu 31-Oct-13 22:35:08

I do it using the "Special Characters" option in the Edit menu on my browser. It generally goes a bit better than my attempts to do bold or italics in the right place... blush

emblosion Thu 31-Oct-13 22:36:47

Aw don't be melancholy, two boys is good fun (already and mine are still v small).

Agree lots of good girls names, so much easier to find nice ones.

ChrisTheSheep Thu 31-Oct-13 22:37:39

emblosion: my uncle is a Niall! It's a good one grin I've never come across Faolan: can I ask how you pronounce it (DH isn't here to help)?

EBearhug Thu 31-Oct-13 22:39:04

I knew a Seamus when I was about 9. I first saw his name written. I was terribly disappointed to discover it wasn't pronounced sea-mouse, which I thought was a much better name than shay-mus. I think it's a fine name, now I'm 3 decades older.

ChrisTheSheep Thu 31-Oct-13 22:41:36

I know, it's very irrational. I had horrid PND with DS1, and took about a year and a half to bond with him. I think on some sort of subconscious level, I was feeling that it would be different with a girl, whereas a boy would mean another 18 months of feeling empty and broken and just going through the motions.

Of course, the point is that it will (hopefully) be different with any second child, regardless of the sex, as you're in a different situation. I'm really glad I found out now, though, as I'm having time to process it all, and actually start looking forward to having two little fellows running around. And DS1 really is a complete dote - if DS2 is anything like him, we'll be fine. smile

ChrisTheSheep Thu 31-Oct-13 22:42:39

Bearhug grin

CarolineKnappShappey Thu 31-Oct-13 22:45:47

If you have Scottish roots as well, what about Hamish?

KatOD Thu 31-Oct-13 22:50:03

Love it! C

ChrisTheSheep Thu 31-Oct-13 22:50:09

Hamish is great, but unfortunately our neighbours had a pet rough collie called Hamish: for me, the name inevitably conjures up the image of a big shaggy dog!

I fully appreciate that this is me being weird.

skylerwhite Thu 31-Oct-13 22:50:28

I think Faolán is 'Fway-lawn'. It means little wolf, which is cute, but in my mind is too close to Faoileán, which means seagull (not so cute). Pronounced almost identically.

How about:

PS I love your name!

KatOD Thu 31-Oct-13 22:51:26

Apologies for random consonant

emblosion Thu 31-Oct-13 22:52:34

Hehehe at "Sea-Mouse".

Faolan is sort of Fay-lon (sort of like 'lawn' sound but shorter and a bit softer) sorry I'm crap at explaining.

I get where you're coming from ChrisTheSheep, I had pnd with ds1 pretty badly but thankfully I've been ok second time round, despite worrying myself into a frenzy about it and ds2 being 6 weeks early! I think the thing to remember is that you'll be really alert to any warning signs and you'll know what to do if your mood does start to dip.

(there must be lots of uncle Nialls around, I've got one too!)

ChrisTheSheep Thu 31-Oct-13 22:53:59

Thanks, skyler! I try not to make a mockery of any celebration of sheep.

I love the meaning of Faolán: I'm going to have to put that to DH, along with lots of the others on this thread! Unfortunately Cormac is out (close relation's name) as is Daire/Dara, as DH went to Uni with Dara O'Briain, and he reckons it would look odd to name a child "after" him...

ChrisTheSheep Thu 31-Oct-13 22:56:09

It's great to hear that things were ok the second time round, emblosion: I'm keeping a close eye on things at the moment as I've had a few wobbly weeks, but I'm trying not to think myself into it happening again, if you see what I mean.

Niall is a very uncle-y name wink

Bunbaker Thu 31-Oct-13 22:56:33

I don't have a special characters option - I'm using Firefox.

ChrisTheSheep Thu 31-Oct-13 22:58:01

Me too, Bunbaker, but I'm using it on a Mac - maybe that's the difference. I'm afraid it's ages since I've used a PC: I can't remember how you do it, but I'm sure there's a way.

ChrisTheSheep Thu 31-Oct-13 23:01:38

There is a Firefox Accented Characters add-on here, if that's any help: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/easyaccent/

Bucking the trend here but really not keen on Seamus.

NuggetofPurestGreen Thu 31-Oct-13 23:10:36

Fairly sure there's a keyboard shortcut for fadas on PC and Mac. On my phone now so can't think how to do it but I think on PC is just alt and the letter??? Might be imagining it though. I do it every day too!!!

Retroformica Fri 01-Nov-13 00:19:02

Love it! There's also silus sp?

hollyisalovelyname Fri 01-Nov-13 01:03:17

I don't like Seamus or Sean.
Niall is nice.
I love Tarlach. Strong and different.

emblosion Fri 01-Nov-13 02:04:53

I'm typing on my phone but think keyboard shortcut for fada is alt gr + letter? That's pc not Mac tho...

squoosh Fri 01-Nov-13 10:28:08

I don't like Eamon, Ruairi, Niall or Liam.

I kindly give the nod to Cillian though.

MrsOakenshield Fri 01-Nov-13 10:39:26

I'm not sure if you're living in England or not, but if you go for it it might be easier to drop the accent, as I reckon 99% of the time people would not realise it's meant to be there and your DS would spend all his time correcting it, which might become a bit tiresome - my middle name has an unusual spelling (it's a fairly common name but I think a lot of people wouldn't even know it had an alternative spelling) and I actually really wish my parents had spelt it the normal way, it's such a drag sending things back to be corrected all the time! And that's how the wonderful Seamus Heaney spelt it, which is a good thing, surely?!

squoosh Fri 01-Nov-13 10:44:07

If in the UK I'd definitely put the fada on the birth cert but wouldn't expect it to be used day to day.

I like Séamus, but I'd have a think about whether you're going to use the fada or not or if you'd be happy with people routinely dropping it (which they will). Of your other names, I like Ruaridh because I have a 9mo one! How would you pronounce Ruaridh? Roo-ry or Rho-ry? Living in Scotland, the pronunciation has been a constant pain in my ass and has (at weaker PND filled moments) made me wish I'd given him a different name (I wanted Francis or Joseph - good saints names) or had spelt it Rory.

I have so many issues about DS's name

For typing the fada (on a Mac) I alt+e,[vowel].

ChrisTheSheep Fri 01-Nov-13 17:00:26

MrsOakenshield, we're in Wales, so I'm guessing people will be used to accents and some variant spellings of names: our DS1, who is Eoin, gets written down as Owain rather a lot! To be honest, I think it's hard to win on the spelling issue: my mum deliberately didn't give me a Gaelic name as she thought people wouldn't be able to spell it. Unfortunately, no-one can spell the (really very simple and straightforward) name she did give me. DH has his name mispelled all the time, and it's about the most everyday name you could imagine.

As regards the fada, we'd definitely have it on the birth certificate (DS1 has one on his middle name) but I understand that people are very likely to drop it. As a non-Irish person, I admit I sometimes get a bit confused by whether or not there should be a fada on a word!

Holly, NoSpring: I admit to some reservations on Séamus (hence the thread), and they're largely centred around the fact that I did wonder if it might be a bit of an "old man" name. I'm relieved to see a lot of people don't feel that (and indeed have small Séamuses of their own!), but its always good to get both points of view.

Squoosh: I really like Cillian. My mum, again, doesn't, but I think DH could be won over....

ArabellaBeaumaris Fri 01-Nov-13 19:48:38

I love Seamus & know two small ones, of Irish heritage but but not in Ireland.

lalalonglegs Fri 01-Nov-13 20:48:31

In case no one else has pointed it out, it's very, very similar to the Italian word for idiot which may or may not be a problem for you.

Mumpire Fri 01-Nov-13 21:03:05

I like Séamus but wouldn't use it in the UK. I'd use something a bit less stereotypically Irish. The whole name together will not just label him, but sort of offer him up as a stereotype. I like Diarmuid and Gregor.

QueenMedb Fri 01-Nov-13 23:39:06

Am Irish. I concur that it's something of an old man name, but judging by one or two baby Seamuses (no fada possible, am on iPad) I've encountered lately, it may be having an old man chic revival, like Bertie, Archie in England.

NuggetofPurestGreen Sat 02-Nov-13 13:12:47

Hi Queen on the iPhone you just hold the letter down and all the options for accents etc come up. Would have thought same on iPad.

Wouldn't worry about the fadas though loads of people in Ireland don't put them on in everyday use either.

ChrisTheSheep Sun 03-Nov-13 10:51:22

Lalalonglegs, I hadn't thought of that: I only knew "idiota" or, rather more rudely, "stronzo". Which word are you meaning? It's probably quite important, as, when we do go on holiday, we tend to go to Italy!

lalalonglegs Sun 03-Nov-13 12:03:14

Seamus (pronounced SHAY-muss) is very close to scemo (pronounced SHAY-moh). Sorry to bring it up but my family is Italian and I went to a very Irish school and always felt terribly embarrassed for the Seamuses there because of that. Scemo is definitely a word used a lot in the part of Italy my family are from - it's used in the same way we would call someone a twat.

likelytoasksillyquestions Mon 04-Nov-13 09:56:43

I love Seamus (sorry - don't know how/if I can do the fada on my phone). It's on the list if I ever have a DS2. And I lovelovelove Seami as a nickname.

Seamus Heaney connection is v cool too.

ChrisTheSheep Tue 05-Nov-13 16:05:20

Lalalonglegs, I didn't know scemo, so thanks for the warning! If DS2 does end up a Seamus, we may creatively edit his name when we're on holiday. I'm sure he wouldn't mind moonlighting as a Giacomo wink

Sillyquestions, we actually have a painting which DFIL did to illustrate one of Seamus Heaney's poems, with both their signatures. We don't have a lot of exciting things, but that is certainly one of them!

mathanxiety Tue 05-Nov-13 16:18:34

I'm Irish and I love it. I think it's having a revival, and Seamus Heaney is a big part of that.

I love Tomas and Micheal (fadas on As) too. However, I think too many people wouldn't pronounce them right (you would end up with Thomas and Michael pronounced the English way).

I think the Italian scemo is something that would only be known to very few. Plus Seamus has a different ending.

Apparentlychilled Tue 05-Nov-13 16:23:56

I am Irish, living in the UK w an English Dh and we have a Seamus (nn Shay or Seamie)- go for it! Xx

ChrisTheSheep Tue 05-Nov-13 16:25:50

My problem with Tomás and Mícheál is that, to my non-Irish ear, they sound just different enough from the English pronunciation to feel awkward. I know that's my own silly feeling, but I haven't been able to shake it.

My mum has just told me she has been reading a book in which a Séamus features, and that its "really quite a nice name"... <headdesk>

maillotjaune Tue 05-Nov-13 16:30:50

Seamus is my very favourite boy's name. It doesn't go with our foreign surname with another 'sh' sound in it though sadly.

mathanxiety Tue 05-Nov-13 18:26:24

Thumm-AWSS and MEE-haul are quite different from Thomas and Michael if you try to forget the spelling.

ChrisTheSheep Tue 05-Nov-13 19:37:04

I know, I know! It's just this weird irrational thing I have going on - DH says he thinks I'm barking smile

ChrisTheSheep Tue 05-Nov-13 19:37:51

Actually, we were married by a priest called Mícheál: he was great.

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