Husband really wants....

(97 Posts)
Writerwannabe83 Sat 27-Jul-13 21:27:57

We only got our BFP 7 days ago (first baby) but we have casually been discussing baby names for the last year grin

He has always really like Elise (pronounced e-lease) and I always vetoed it but now he is coming up with names like Chloe and Zoe and I think they sound a bit plain.

We recently decided if we had a girl, its middle name would be my mom's name and because of this, Elise is actually growing on me now as the baby would be called Elise Caroline which I think sounds quite nice.

However, her initials would be ECW - which reminds me too much of EWCM, grin

Any thoughts??

muminthecity Sat 27-Jul-13 21:32:01

I think Elise Caroline is lovely, I had no idea what EWCM was, I had to google to find out! I don't think its a connection many people would make, so that wouldn't worry me at all.

BOF Sat 27-Jul-13 21:36:30

Elise is usually pronounced Ay(as in 'hay') -leez, as it is of French origin. Is that what you meant? Lovely name.

Writerwannabe83 Sat 27-Jul-13 21:39:25

Nope, he definitely wants it pronounced as 'e-lease' - a nice soft and gentle sound smile

It's kind of put me off now you've said it's of French origin shock

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 27-Jul-13 21:42:56

I thought Elise was more eh-lease? In most UK accents that's how it sounds anyway.

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 27-Jul-13 21:43:20

Why does it being of French origin put you off? That's a bit odd.

Writerwannabe83 Sat 27-Jul-13 21:45:25

I just meant that seeing as neither me or hubby are French we wouldn't want a French name, that's all smile

Admiraltea Sat 27-Jul-13 21:46:34

It's French, pronounced Elise (def ah-leeze) , ending like Louise. Short form of Elizabeth.

Though I understand in America can be pronounced the way your husband wants and commonly mispronounced in UK...also will warn you gets read by the illiterate as Elsie.

I was taught the middle i has an accent grave over but that really doesn't happen in UK.

Love, love, love the name..but def not as your dh wants to pronounce it.

Tigerbomb Sat 27-Jul-13 21:47:19

I have no idea what ECWM is but I would think of the sportscar. Lotus Elise

Writerwannabe83 Sat 27-Jul-13 21:48:31

I was also worried about it being misread as Elsie on first glance too smile

CoteDAzur Sat 27-Jul-13 21:48:40

Elise is a French name and is pronounced Eh-lease.

Writerwannabe83 Sat 27-Jul-13 21:49:31

tiger - Egg White Cervical mucus grin

CoteDAzur Sat 27-Jul-13 21:50:33

The letter i never has an accent grave in French.

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 27-Jul-13 21:52:24

I think it's one of those names that has passed into common usage so it wouldn't be eyebrow raising to use it in the same way Francoise might be. Amelie,Isabelle,Anne all French origin and people don't think twice about it.

All the Elise's I have met have been eh-lees-ah.

Writerwannabe83 Sat 27-Jul-13 21:52:53

How does Eh-lease sound different to e-lease?

Do you mean it is supposed to sound like it El-lease?
We prefer it more Il-lease...

All this issue of mis-pronounciation is also really putting me off, haha

I think me and hubby are going to end up back at the drawing board grin

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 27-Jul-13 21:55:14

The emphasis is on the second syllable rather than the first the e is soft rather than an "ee" sound. That's how the Elise's I've known have said it anyway.

Onyabike Sat 27-Jul-13 21:56:10

I know a lovely young girl called Elise, and she pronounces it the way your husband wants to says it.

I wouldn't worry for a second about the initials. Most people wouldn't have a clue what "EWCM" stands for, and given the letters are in a different order (with no "M"), I doubt anyone would ever make that connection!

Writerwannabe83 Sat 27-Jul-13 21:56:35

We want a soft e at the front smile

A gentle e that flows into the 'lease' smile

CoteDAzur Sat 27-Jul-13 21:59:53

Without meaning to hurt your feelings, I would recommend giving your children names you know how to pronounce.

It is not a good idea to "prefer" to mispronounce a name. Your daughter will not thank you for it.

Goooooooooooooooooooooood Sat 27-Jul-13 22:09:13

What about Lise. Which IS a French name and is pronounce 'Lease.' We loved it but ended up going with Lisa as a middle name.

BalloonSlayer Sat 27-Jul-13 22:12:35

Loads of Elises around. Expect her to be called Elise X (X being initial of your surname)

Loads of Chloes around. Expect her to be called Chloe X (X being initial of your surname.)

Not many Zoes around

Practically no Carolines around. Expect her to be the girl with the really unusual name.

No one (apart from someone OBSESSED with conception) is going to think hmm if someone's initials are EWCM. Most people wouldn't bat an eyelid if you called your DD Ovia Bianca Cervica Muca TBH.

And Initials ECW are NOTHING like EWCM. No one would get the two confused.

Writerwannabe83 Sat 27-Jul-13 22:13:40

I don't want a name that sounds French, lol
I do like the name Lisa though!! smile

I am honestly surprised at how people are saying the word Elise is pronounced smile However, there have been quite a few variants amongst the posters which just proves there is no right or wrong way smile

If I saw the name Elise written down I would automatically say it as e-lease (or e-leese, whichever you prefer) grin

Writerwannabe83 Sat 27-Jul-13 22:15:36

lol balloon - you are totally right!! It's only because I'm relatively new to MN and have been seeing EWCM written all over the conception boards grin It is still fresh in my mind grin

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 27-Jul-13 22:18:15


What other names do you like?

Writerwannabe83 Sat 27-Jul-13 22:20:32

I went through a phase of liking Diana actually - DH said a definite no to that though!!! I also liked Olivia.

Hubby likes Jasmine - but pronounced Yaz-min.... [hmmm]

Onyabike Sat 27-Jul-13 22:20:37

I think it's a bit odd to be put off a name you like because of its origin!!?Being of French origin hasn't held back the international love of the name Sophie for instance!

ChippingInHopHopHop Sat 27-Jul-13 22:21:09

I know two girls called Elise. Both are pronounced the way you/your DH says/likes.

Writerwannabe83 Sat 27-Jul-13 22:22:00

I think it's more because people are implying it should be pronounced with a French accent, as opposed to it actually being of French origin.

If that makes sense??

CoteDAzur Sat 27-Jul-13 22:22:24

Sorry but we have all been saying the same thing, except one person who knows of a girl whose name is mispronounced like you want your DD's to be.

Don't set up your child for a lifetime of "Pronounced Eeelise, not Elise" and "My name isn't spelled Eeelise, it's spelled Elise. Yes, I know that's not how Elise is pronounced."

ChippingInHopHopHop Sat 27-Jul-13 22:23:10

If he likes Yasmin, why not call her Yasmin smile (rather than Jasmine said incorrectly??)

I agree with him about Diana! Bleurgh.

Olivia is my pick from your suggestions so far smile but only if you are up for a Livvy.

Writerwannabe83 Sat 27-Jul-13 22:24:11

Are you French?

CoteDAzur Sat 27-Jul-13 22:24:35

Yasmin is also a name. So is Yasemin.

If that is the name you like, maybe don't write it with a J?

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 27-Jul-13 22:24:46

I think Jasmin pronounced Yasmin might actually just be Yasmin.

As in Yasmin Le Bon.

CoteDAzur Sat 27-Jul-13 22:25:12

No, I'm not French.

Would that matter for you?

Writerwannabe83 Sat 27-Jul-13 22:25:29

I don't mind Livvy actually smile

I'm not feeling Yasmine quite yet - I don't know why though because it is a beautiful name. Maybe he is hoping it will grow on me smile

Writerwannabe83 Sat 27-Jul-13 22:26:34

No, I was only asking because of your username smile

UnrequitedSkink Sat 27-Jul-13 22:27:00

I know a little girl call Elise, the way you want to pronounce it, and no one bats an eyelid. Really pretty name.

Writerwannabe83 Sat 27-Jul-13 22:27:51

I do prefer Yasmin to Jasmine smile
I might put that to him smile

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 27-Jul-13 22:28:44

Op Olivia is lovely.

Any other names you like? You don't seem keen on the names your DH is suggesting.

Writerwannabe83 Sat 27-Jul-13 22:29:06

Thanks unrequited - it really is the fore-runner at the moment smile

Writerwannabe83 Sat 27-Jul-13 22:31:21

It is strange really that I don't seem to have the 'naming streak' in me that I thought I would have. I seem to just be letting my hubby say what he likes and then I either agree or disagree smile

My dad named both me and my sister as my mom said she wasn't that bothered what we were called - maybe that's where I get it from grin

loopydoo Sat 27-Jul-13 22:32:41

The French Elise is pronounced eh-leeze.

I know this as I speak French and my French friend's DD is called it and my friend tells people when then don't pronounce it correctly.

SanityClause Sat 27-Jul-13 22:34:13

Betcha it's a boy. wink

zipzap Sat 27-Jul-13 22:38:57

How about going for Eliza? That's nice and not obviously french origins like Elise.

Or Yasira if you like Yasmin is also nice...

Writerwannabe83 Sat 27-Jul-13 22:40:03

But surely Elise can be pronounced in an English way too?
Afterall, there are man names that are used widely across Europe yet they are pronounced differently dependent on what country the people are living in.

Sanity - I hope it's not a boy, we haven't got a single idea for a boy's name, grin grin

Writerwannabe83 Sat 27-Jul-13 22:40:54

zipzap - I do like Eliza, very much actually grin

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 27-Jul-13 22:42:54


All the Elise's I know are British with English as a first language.

Can you describe how you're pronouncing the e part of the name

The ones I know say it like the e in egg so eh

Are you saying e like the e in lease which is ee?


Writerwannabe83 Sat 27-Jul-13 22:44:34

I would say it like the 'e' in egg smile

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 27-Jul-13 22:50:42

I don't think you're wanting to say it "wrong" then.

Judging by the people I know called it and what others have said here.

It's more our writing of the "eh" sound differed. smile

Writerwannabe83 Sat 27-Jul-13 22:51:37

grin - we just got lost in translation then smile

Writerwannabe83 Sat 27-Jul-13 22:52:43

I'm off to bed now but I just know I'm going to spend hours tossing and turning, obsessing about the 50 different ways of saying Elise grin

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 27-Jul-13 22:56:05


You should go with it! smile

MrsGSR Sat 27-Jul-13 23:43:34

I have a friend who pronounces it eh-lise. She spells it Elyse, but I've never heard anyone pronounce it with an ay at the start.

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 27-Jul-13 23:44:24

OP how do you feel about Elysia?

ChippingInHopHopHop Sun 28-Jul-13 00:02:59

You have a long time to go before you need to make decision, I would just let it go for a bit, see what you stumble across before heshe gets here smile

WafflyVersatile Sun 28-Jul-13 00:06:58

If you want to pronounce it Ehlease then that is how it is pronounced. Also most people will anyway.

Chloe and Zoe are not at all plain though. Both very pretty light airy names.

DuchessFanny Sun 28-Jul-13 00:22:15

Love Eliza ! If that's an option, and you seem to like that a lot, put it to your DH and see if that would work for both if you ?
Might need to start working on that boy name too, just in case !!!

Admiraltea Sun 28-Jul-13 00:23:34

Louise is not pronounced at the end to rhyme with lease. Neither should Elise.
How about Alice as having all the soft sounds and is said to be an English name (though maybe also french/german in origin)

Alisvolatpropiis Sun 28-Jul-13 00:35:44


But Louise is the feminine form of Louis (Loo-ee) so is said Loo-eeze.

Not really the same as Elise.

freelancegirl Sun 28-Jul-13 00:42:13

Are you American, Writer? Just thought you might be as you wrote 'mom' instead of mum and maybe that's the difference in pronunciation. I know a grown up Elise and she is Eh Leez. But I love Eliza like has been mentioned.

squoosh Sun 28-Jul-13 03:07:15

This is how all the Elise's I've ever known have pronounced their name (except without the American accent).

If you're English you're not going to pronounce a French name just as the French do as you don't have the same accent. When names travel they change. Irish names are popular in the UK at the moment but are often pronounce differently than they are in Ireland.

squoosh Sun 28-Jul-13 03:09:29

p.s Have no clue what EWCM stands for.

BalloonSlayer Sun 28-Jul-13 06:47:29

I would advise against Elise purely because names with the L sound in them are so so so so common popular at the moment.

It seems like just about every little girl is Eleanor, Ella, Ellie, Millie, Mollie, Lily, Alicia, Aleesha, Alisha, Elouise, Elise, or any of the countless variations I have missed. I have even seen and Elisha (girl) not pronounced like the male prophet but as Eleeesha

nooka Sun 28-Jul-13 07:06:39

squoosh, not sure about that pronounce names site, they messed mine up completely! I only know a Canadian Elise, and she is eh-leas-ah.

Eliza Caroline sounds great smile

harrietspy Sun 28-Jul-13 07:11:03

I know two Elises and they both pronounce it the way you've described. I think it's lovely.

(freelancegirl "mom" is also a West Midlands thing).

ilovemykids5 Sun 28-Jul-13 08:34:49

My daughter is Elise (eh-lease) its a lovely name.

Writerwannabe83 Sun 28-Jul-13 09:15:20

Freelance and harriet - my mom was bought up in Birmingham and so she has always called her mom, 'mom' so I I grew up thinking 'mom' was the norm smile

I get so many people saying to me, "Why are you speaking American?" grin

My sister has got two children and they both call her 'mom' too grin

I'm pretty sure my children will call me mom smile

And thanks everyone for your continued thoughts.
I'm not really feeling Elysia - I don't know why though.
Still liking Eliza this morning smile

freelancegirl Sun 28-Jul-13 09:51:04

Ahh I feel like I've learned something. Eliza is indeed lovely, as is Elise.

Writerwannabe83 Sun 28-Jul-13 09:54:04

I haven't told my mom that we'd have her name as a middle name - she'd pretend to be nonchalant about it but would be secretly touched. There are lots of Caroline's going back through our family tree so it will be nice to carry on that tradition.

I'm kind of hoping we don't have a boy as my DH's dad's name is John and I don't want to have a son with John as his middle name smile

EstelleGetty Sun 28-Jul-13 10:07:38

I had no idea saying 'mom' was a Midlands thing, that's fascinating!

What do you think of Alida (pronounced Ah-leeda), Writer. It's Italian in origin, I think, but I have an English friend with that name and it really suits her. She's named after the actress Alida Valli.

NoComet Sun 28-Jul-13 10:08:22

I think Elise Caroline is lovely. I'd pronounce it the way you do.

My only warning is it may get confused with Ellie, we have loads of older Ellie and Ella's and younger Evie's round her. I don't know if this extends to babies.

Writerwannabe83 Sun 28-Jul-13 10:13:30

My hubby wants to spell it Elyse.... [hmmm]

I think if it is spelt like that people won't pronounce it they way we want them to. I think they will say Ee-lyz ??? [hmmm]

I think Elise looks nicer - I also wonder if as a nickname she'd be called 'Lissy' - which I actually really like too smile

DH shook his head at Eliza sad

Dackyduddles Sun 28-Jul-13 10:24:00

Christ on a bike if a bit French is putting you off how you going to choose a name? Most names come from places other than England!

Etc etc

Even Caroline isn't English

Writerwannabe83 Sun 28-Jul-13 10:28:44

Like I said, I don't mind at all that the name is of French origin, I just don't want it to sound French, i.e said with a French accent smile

I'm pretty sure my own name is of French origin smile

Goooooooooooooooooooooood Sun 28-Jul-13 10:35:08

Elyse is lovely and can't be incorrectly pronounced. Job done?

SoupDragon Sun 28-Jul-13 10:37:09

Elyse is lovely and can't be incorrectly pronounced.

I'm sure it can.

My initials are ECW .
Never had a problem with them .

Writerwannabe83 Sun 28-Jul-13 10:42:19

Maybe we should just go for Chloe or Zoe after all - there are no dangers with those names grin

ThoraNomiki Sun 28-Jul-13 11:15:04

Except you need to know how to type the accent thing (umlauf?) or the names should be pronounced Klo and Zo (like So)

<runs away>

unlucky83 Sun 28-Jul-13 11:17:26

Be careful with names others struggle to pronounce ...
One of my DDs is Alicia (Lissy for short) - there was even a thread on here ages ago about how to pronounce it ...
She is A li s ia not aleeshya (as in Alicia Keys)
We get various other pronunciations as well ...people do struggle - luckily I don't mind - and neither does she ...
But she does face a lifetime of having to spell her first (and second name) over phone ....
(This after deliberately giving DCs my surname as her main one rather than DPs - I always have to spell mine -but it is made up of English words so relatively easy compared to DPs - foreign AND unusual - he often has to phone up insurance companies etc to correct....)
Also wait and see what she (or he) looks like - Alicia was going to be Lily or Alice -but they just didn't seem to suit her ...

rosyryan Sun 28-Jul-13 11:27:26

I think Elise Caroline is lovely.
I know two Elise's - one Irish, one Cornish - and they both say their names the way that you do.

Writerwannabe83 Sun 28-Jul-13 11:40:33

unlucky - I would automatically pronounce your daughters name the way you say it too smile

Isn't strange how different people can all see the same word but their brain interprets it differently - fascinating really smile

And thanks to everyone for your reassurances about the name (and pronounciation) of Elise, it looks like DH may get his wish afterall grin

BikeRunSki Sun 28-Jul-13 11:51:19

Elise is a lovely name. I knew two at school ( French school), who pronounced it E ( as in elephant).- lise ( to rhyme with.sneeze).

It is French, but so is Amy and that doesn' t seem to put anyone off. Zoe is Greek, Rachel is Hebrew, Alice is Germanic ..... There are many names in common usage in th UK not of Anglo Saxon or Celtic origin. Look at all the Isaacs, Noahs and Joshuas about.

EWCM doesn' t mean anything to me.

miemohrs Sun 28-Jul-13 11:51:45

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

LadyLech Sun 28-Jul-13 12:01:00

If you're not keen on Elise, there are lots of similar sounding names out there...

Eliza (beautiful, but I see your DH has already rejected that)
Alicia, (a-lees- see-a)
Elsie (prefer it as a nickname tbh)

All lovely grin

Writerwannabe83 Sun 28-Jul-13 12:40:53

I quite like the name Leisel too - but the Sound of Music is my favourite film so that's probably why smile

Frikadellen Sun 28-Jul-13 13:42:29

Elise is a beautiful name

mathanxiety Mon 29-Jul-13 01:55:04

There is never an accent grave over an I in French. It's only on A, E, or U. An I can have a circonflexe though.

Elise pronounced as E-lease is a sturdy English pronunciation and completely acceptable even though it has obv strayed from the original French, as many other names that are now 'English' have.

Having said all that, I really like the sound of Zoe Caroline.
Caroline Elise sounds better than Elise Caroline to my ear.

sleepywombat Mon 29-Jul-13 02:34:37

All the English & Aussie Elises I know pronounce it as you do & that would be how I'd pronounce it too!

If I were in France & met an Elise, I would pronounce it with a 'z' sound, not an 's'.

Same for any name really Beertris/Beyatreece or Agnis/Anyess etc.

I don't know what the big fuss is about!

Elise Caroline sounds gorgeous to me. Like Zoe too.

I didn't know what EWCM was either.

amessagetoyouYoni Mon 29-Jul-13 11:15:47

Lovely name. I know a French Elise and she is Ell-eese not ah-leaze, btw.

Writerwannabe83 Mon 29-Jul-13 17:57:37

Ell-eese smile

Just how we want it!! grin

CoteDAzur Mon 29-Jul-13 21:02:01

Didn't you say you wanted to pronounce it E-lease?

E and Ell are very different first syllables.

mathanxiety Tue 30-Jul-13 00:34:33

Writing phonetically on MN isn't an exact science.

Many times I have heard a name with my mind's eye (in a manner of speaking) only to realise my Irish accent was leading me far astray.

Goooooooooooooooooooooood Tue 30-Jul-13 01:28:42

Ellyse ?

formicadinosaur Tue 30-Jul-13 08:49:35



lrdavis Thu 01-Aug-13 00:20:05

I think Caroline is a first name.. but that just me you will find something that works for you smile

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