Unusual but too out there boys name?

(79 Posts)
Whiteroom82 Tue 23-Jul-13 21:29:19

My husband is a huge Inspector Morse fan and I love names that are creative, unique but have a classic feel to them, so nothing too boho or of the moment. We've come up with Endeavour Valentine... Slightly worried it'll be Dev for short which makes me think of that awful bloke in Corrie!

What do you think? Too bonkers for boy?!

MrsJamin Tue 23-Jul-13 21:35:08

That's dreadful sorry. Boys names are tricky, you have my sympathies. What others are you thinking about?

Whiteroom82 Tue 23-Jul-13 21:39:55

Ha, it's all very early stages but it was Endeavour or Morse! I'd like something quirky but not too 'celeb' either...! This is not going to be easy!!

MadameJosephine Tue 23-Jul-13 21:45:17

Not sure about Endeavour sorry. How about Earnest? ( I know the name generally doesn't have the a in it but I prefer this spelling)

Whiteroom82 Tue 23-Jul-13 21:46:28

I knew it would be a bit out there... Maybe it's one we have to revisit! X

Treats Tue 23-Jul-13 21:51:43

What about Dexter after Colin Dexter who wrote the original books? Bit more mainstream.....

tittytittyhanghang Tue 23-Jul-13 21:52:15

Endeavour not something i would pick but loving Valentine.

Bluestocking Tue 23-Jul-13 21:54:04

Endeavour Valentine is awful. Sounds like a pedigree dog or possibly a boat.
Dexter is a good Morse-related name.

Whiteroom82 Tue 23-Jul-13 21:54:28

Thanks treats, that's pretty cool! We always knew Endeavour would be a bit of a questionable choice! X

BeQuicksieorBeDead Tue 23-Jul-13 21:55:38

I think Endeavor is cool! It is a brave choice - maybe if you are not sure, use it as a middle name and let your boy choose later. I have a friend who was John then very unusual middle name... As soon a he was old enough, he swapped them permanently!

formicadinosaur Tue 23-Jul-13 21:55:49

Valentine is fab.

Whiteroom82 Tue 23-Jul-13 21:56:19

Haha, thank you blue, I hope more boat than dog lol! What is we did Endeavour James or Endeavour George, bit more classic and quirk rather than 2 more individual names? Still dog? X

chattychattyboomba Tue 23-Jul-13 22:08:06

It is very out there. I think it's too out there. Endeavour is the name Of the ship James Cook sailed when he 'discovered' Australia. I think he would be given a bit of a hard time for it tbh...'Endeavour, will you Endeavour to do your homework on time?' No... It sounds silly.
Valentine on the other hand is the coolest name ever (as a middle name) Also Like Dexter.

Whiteroom82 Tue 23-Jul-13 22:11:59

I love Valentine but hubby thought it was a bit too feminine? It could be our girls name (I'll keep the middle one back so you don't think I'm truly bonkers!) but maybe we can do valentine endeavour for boy? X

floatyflo Tue 23-Jul-13 22:12:19

Me finks Dexter is the way to go here op! smile

Bluestocking Tue 23-Jul-13 22:15:19

Well, your baby, your choice. But I assume you're asking strangers on the Internet to find out what people will really think. Endeavour as a first name will, I guarantee, result in a lot of eye-rolling behind your back. It would be OK as a second name, but your son might have to explain the Morse connection more often than he might want to.
I do wonder if it might be just a little bit naff to be named after Inspector Morse, but that might just be my very strong feeling that there's nothing naffer than detective novels. I suppose it could be worse - you could be planning to call the poor little blighter Hercule or Jacques.

FingersCrossedLegsNot Tue 23-Jul-13 22:17:14

It is quite a cool combo but without a doubt it will be shortened to something!

Whiteroom82 Tue 23-Jul-13 22:18:06

Hercule and Jacques are not on the list! Neither are Oliver, Harry, Arlo or Jack! X

SanityClause Tue 23-Jul-13 22:20:56

The Endeavour was Captain James Cook's ship when he sailed to Australia.

chattychattyboomba Tue 23-Jul-13 22:21:39

Valentino? Masculine version?

dementedma Tue 23-Jul-13 22:25:51

Awful. Poor kid

Whiteroom82 Tue 23-Jul-13 22:27:12

It's not set! It was just opinion on the name.
I knew we would get eye rolling and perhaps it different but I appreciate all of your thoughts and opinions x

WafflyVersatile Tue 23-Jul-13 22:27:29


IWipeArses Tue 23-Jul-13 22:31:12

I love both names, but don't think they flow like that, Valentine Endeavour scans better to me.
Valentine is an unusual but very classic boys name and although virtue names aren't quite as popular as they once were, blandness is not our main aim as parents surely?
Dexter is yach. It's the name of the scruffy diner running alien in Star Wars ep2.

WafflyVersatile Tue 23-Jul-13 22:31:59



These are the books

Last Bus to Woodstock (1975)
Last Seen Wearing (1976)
The Silent World of Nicholas Quinn (1977)
Service of All the Dead (1979)
The Dead of Jericho (1981)
The Riddle of the Third Mile (1983)
The Secret of Annexe 3 (1986)
The Wench is Dead (1989)
The Jewel That Was Ours (1991)
The Way Through the Woods (1992)
The Daughters of Cain (1994)
Death is Now My Neighbour (1996)
The Remorseful Day (1999)

How about Jericho or Cain? Or Quinn?

Whiteroom82 Tue 23-Jul-13 22:37:42

Thanks guys, I like the literary links and as waffley says, who the hell wants to be 'meh' x

Blu Tue 23-Jul-13 22:39:26

Jericho ?

I think it makes a great middle name, how about Lewis Endeavour Valentine?

WafflyVersatile Tue 23-Jul-13 22:47:06

Weren't me what said that!

I can't imagine anyone thanking you for being called Endeavour Valentine if I'm honest.

It can't be shortened except as you say to Dev.

For unusualness and out thereness but not too much I'd say Jericho.

Jericho Quinn
Jericho Shaw

saintmerryweather Tue 23-Jul-13 22:48:43

poor little bugger. if you like such a frankly stupid name, why not chamge your own name to it instead of saddling your poor baby with it

Whiteroom82 Tue 23-Jul-13 22:49:43

Thank you saint, might look into that ;-) x

Areyoumadorisitme Tue 23-Jul-13 22:57:43

Sorry but Endeavour Valentine is awful. Your son would get the Micky taken out of him for years and probably be called Dev too.

LemonPeculiarJones Tue 23-Jul-13 22:57:51

Loving how good-humoured your responses are OP!

I like both names, but the diminutives of Dev and Val do put me off everso slightly.

Whiteroom82 Tue 23-Jul-13 23:01:52

Well why take it too seriously? There will always be opinion and I gather bitchiness? I mean, I could have responded to saint with a comment about taking her opinions seriously when they can spell 'change' and start a sentence with a capital letter... But no, much more interested in changing my name by deed poll instead lol!

Thank you everyone for your thoughts x

WafflyVersatile Tue 23-Jul-13 23:07:20

What would you change your name to by deed poll do you reckon?

candyflossisevil Tue 23-Jul-13 23:09:07

Know nothing about the books etc but looking at the book titles posted I think Quinn is a good choice?

RoadToTuapeka Tue 23-Jul-13 23:11:30

Endeavour is dreadful! If I knew someone named that I doubt I could bring myself to actually use their name. It would be forever 'hi!' Not 'hi Endeavour!'

Whiteroom82 Tue 23-Jul-13 23:11:36

I'm quite happy with my name, saint suggested if I was willing to saddle a baby with such a crazy name, perhaps I should change mine to be as uncomfortable?

Chloe - in 1982... Not the most commen?! X

Whiteroom82 Tue 23-Jul-13 23:13:48

It also appears Endevour is a no... Unless I'm clinically insane or decide to at least be kind and use it as a middle name no one will know or use!

Back to drawing board... X

TheBuskersDog Tue 23-Jul-13 23:31:08

Remember Morse never told anyone his first name, too embarrassing.

Please don't listen to those suggesting Jericho.

saintmerryweather Tue 23-Jul-13 23:37:58

ah well i may not spell check or use capitals when im typing on my phone but at least i dont think Endeavour Valentine is a reasonable name to give a child.

Whiteroom82 Tue 23-Jul-13 23:50:38

This is true! X

Mutteroo Wed 24-Jul-13 00:03:26

Brave choice OP & I love it. DH is very traditional & so are our DCs names, but I would have loved something more adventurous. Suspect you'll get more negative comments about both names & I must admit I prefer the Valentine part of your choice. Endeavour is highly likely to be shortened to Dev which I hate, however, if you find another nn before little Endeavour starts school you may be OK.

lljkk Wed 24-Jul-13 00:08:51

Endeavour as middle name could work fine, though, I reckon. Just don't shorten it. Dev, Div, no, no, no...

JacqueslePeacock Wed 24-Jul-13 00:16:07

I think there is a reason Morse didn't go around telling people his first name...

So why not just Morse - sure it is better than Endeavour. Morse Smith, Morse Valentine Smith - will show everyone what your husband is a big fan of upfront, less teasing potential (I think, maybe Mouse or dots and dashes), still out there but more along the lines of Dexter, Hunter, surname type names.

lljkk Wed 24-Jul-13 07:46:29

Morse, More, Moose, no, I wouldn't do that either.
Dexter would be very trendy, though.

IWipeArses Wed 24-Jul-13 09:07:00

Proper boring cunts round here.

omri Wed 24-Jul-13 18:06:44

Well OP I have to say I am totally biased because I am a huuuge morse fan too. Watching box set again this week and have read all the books. So I think the name morse or endeavour or dexter are all great!!!! What a wonderful character to be named after smile

Onesleeptillwembley Wed 24-Jul-13 18:17:03

You'd be setting him up for a lifetime of teasing All because of a liking for a tv show.

Whiteroom82 Wed 24-Jul-13 18:40:23

It's more so the name we like than the actual character but it can't be a bad thing to be linked to an intelligent and classic character like him? Could be worse!!

And to all those people who think names that are too out there will be teased, that'll only happen if you bring your children up to believe different is a target and should be treated different than more mainstream.

Your kid might grow up to be an accountant, doctor, bin man or rock star. Don't set the bar that they'll under achieve and call them (insert your own safe name here) when in reality they could be whatever they want to be!

IWipeArses Wed 24-Jul-13 21:48:51

The teasing isn't caused by the name, it's caused by your arsehole kids who think a different name deserves teasing.

Onesleeptillwembley Thu 25-Jul-13 00:09:12

Oh get real. No matter how (hopefully) most people bring up their children there will always be a significant amount if people who bring up their children to tease.

steppemum Thu 25-Jul-13 00:20:03

the problem with Endeavour is that it is too long for people to use the whole name, and there is no nice shortening of it.

Valentine is definitely for me a female name. I know officially unisex but feels female to me. Valentino for a boy.

And Morse hated it, never used it, and never told anyone it. Seems that may be how you ds feels?

steppemum Thu 25-Jul-13 00:22:25

as to teasing - that really depends where you are. In some areas Endeavour would be sensible compared to all the other names in the school. No-one gets teased for their name because everyone has unusual names.

In other areas it would stand out like a sore thumb

notanyanymore Thu 25-Jul-13 00:24:02

I like Endeavour, its a lovely name.

notanyanymore Thu 25-Jul-13 00:28:30

I think its much nicer then dexter, which is like an 'unusual safe' name, that's not that unusual and actually just safe.

SirBoobAlot Thu 25-Jul-13 00:28:45

Morse never told anyone his name, because it was ridiculous. If you're true Morse fans, then surely you won't lumber your child with something that even the character you're naming him after detested?

nooka Thu 25-Jul-13 06:47:40

Endeavour is pretty awful and coupled with Valentine is verging on cruel. I have an unusual name which I really like, and generally get very positive comments about but it is still a nuisance at times. Can you really imagine introducing yourself as Endeavour? Really? And then think about the type of response you might be likely to receive, I would imagine from disbelief to sniggers. People who make the connection to Inspector Morse will think you are bonkers because the whole point is that he hated his name so much he never ever used it. Possibly because there are no 'normal' shortenings you can get out of it (my name can be shortened to a very common 70's name if I want to blend in).

I think it's a bit much even for a middle name to be honest, and Im not at all sure that Valentine is much better.

curlew Thu 25-Jul-13 07:15:20

It's not the teasing or the bullying. That might happen, but the only children I have ever heard of being teased or bullied are those names that with a little imagination- or even with none can be tuned into something scatological or sexual.

It's having to explain it every single time you give your name for the rest of your life. It's boring. It means you can never sink into the background (and believe it or not, sometimes everyone wants to sometimes). My dd has a friend whose birth name was Seven. She got so fed up of saying "Seven. Yes it is unusual - no, the number, not the river. It was my dad's lucky number. Yes, I am glad his lucky number wasn't a hundred and fourty three..." that when she was in year 6 she insisted on changing it to go up to Secondary school with....

IWipeArses Thu 25-Jul-13 08:21:00

I have a very normal name, not especially common when I was a child, but it was certainly used to taunt me. I knew a Dylan who got teased. No one else had unusual names I think, but everybody got teased for something.

I knew a kid later called Saxon. I imagine he got teased. He also had lovely long blond hair, he probably got teased for that too. He came across as someone who was going to do well for himself, unlike the majority of Thomas' who made up the rest of his class.

SelectAUserName Thu 25-Jul-13 09:28:12

I agree that Endeavour is a bit too "out there" but I think Dexter Valentine sounds smashing! It's the sort of name I imagine a secret agent or a jazz musician using - cool and quirky but not outrageous.

curlew Thu 25-Jul-13 09:30:12

"I knew a kid later called Saxon. I imagine he got teased. He also had lovely long blond hair, he probably got teased for that too. He came across as someone who was going to do well for himself, unlike the majority of Thomas' who made up the rest of his class."

I know it's bad form to say that a post is stupid- but dear god, that's a stupid post!

Dexter is much better, and a rather nice namesmile

IWipeArses Thu 25-Jul-13 10:02:27

Why stupid, just an actual experience of kids with unusual names. He was a well-mannered talented and hard-working young man. I remember him because he had an unusual name though, which will probably serve him well.

Theas18 Thu 25-Jul-13 10:24:06

I'm lovingendeavour but huge morse fan here too.

curlew Thu 25-Jul-13 10:27:25

Well, I would assume that anyone who called their child Endeavour had never seen an episode of Morse and never read any of the books. BECAUSE HE HATED THE NAME!

IWipeArses Thu 25-Jul-13 10:28:40

He was a character flawed in many ways.

curlew Thu 25-Jul-13 10:28:59

"Why stupid, just an actual experience of kids with unusual names. He was a well-mannered talented and hard-working young man. I remember him because he had an unusual name though, which will probably serve him well."

What about "unlike the majority of Thomas'................"

Whiteroom82 Thu 25-Jul-13 10:35:19

He may hate the name, but he's fictional! It was the name I liked, not the hope he was going up turn into a difficult, troubled and reclusive detective! However, if he did, we'd support him anyway!


IWipeArses Thu 25-Jul-13 10:35:28

There were a load of Thomases in his class who I vaguely remember as being average. I have no recollection what at least three of them looked like. I'm sure most of them are doing well for themselves, but they didn't stick in my mind, and in a harsh industry based on networking and personality, that won't have done them any favours.

curlew Thu 25-Jul-13 10:40:49

Words fail me......

IWipeArses Thu 25-Jul-13 10:46:46

It may be true that some children don't like their unusual names, it's also true that they may actually benefit from standing out from the crowd.
Choose a name because you like it.
My kids don't have unusual names, but that wasn't the reason we chose them.

WafflyVersatile Thu 25-Jul-13 11:37:38

Dexter Valentine is a dude.

IWipeArses Thu 25-Jul-13 11:59:31

I do like Dexter Valentine actually. I just love Valentine, always have. grin

CajaDeLaMemoria Thu 25-Jul-13 12:03:54

I think the real issue is that, as has already been said, The Endeavour was a very famous ship.

Even if the kid's don't know about it initially, they'll learn about it at school.

Adults will already think it's a bit boat-y.

IWipeArses Thu 25-Jul-13 23:26:08

A lot of the ship names are virtue names, lots of potential.
I'm a big fan of Master and Commander with Russell Crowe, good name if we have an accidental baby. Surprise!

Snazzyenjoyingsummer Fri 26-Jul-13 00:39:20

I like Quinn.

Thirstysomething Fri 26-Jul-13 03:46:04

Loving Surprise!!

Another vote for Dexter Valentine over Endeavour Valentine. Am the age that Dexter makes me think of gorgeous husky Dynasty voice. Or Dexter Fletcher in Press Gang hmm
Dexter Valentine - thriller writer
Dexter Valentine - porn star... Oh.
Endeavour Valentine - boat.

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