Settle a debate....

(79 Posts)
AndieDisestablishment Tue 23-Jul-13 16:33:57

It's very early days but DP and I already have very clear thoughts on baby names. We agree on Flynn for a boy but are battling it out over girl's names.
He wants Luna (after his favourite Harry Potter character) and I want Arya (after my favourite Game of Thrones character). I've said I'll accept Luna as a middle name but he's being stubborn. Both names fit us as people (I am Pagan, he's a geek) and have nice meanings (Luna meaning moon and Arya meaning noble/trustworthy/air).
We already have a Logan, Rowan, Keeley and Mason (and if anyone who knows us is on here I have just outed myself, hi!) but I don't know which would be the best fit.

TheRealFellatio Tue 23-Jul-13 16:36:45

Flynn and Luna are lovely.

Arya not good. Sounds too much like a nod to an Aryan race which has racist overtones to me, and naming oyur child after a GOT character is beyond cheesy.

Mason is awful.

Logan is awful.

Keeley is awful.

Rowan is nice.

ZombiesAteMyBigToe Tue 23-Jul-13 16:38:02

I like Luna, but I'm afraid the first thing that came into my head when I saw Arya was 'Aryan Nation'.

Flossiechops Tue 23-Jul-13 16:47:47

therealfellatio those 'awful' names you have just listed are the ops 4 dc names! Fwiw I like Luna op so I side with your dh smile

98percentchocolate Tue 23-Jul-13 16:49:55

I really like Luna. Arya is pretty but a bit too close to Aryan for my liking - sorry!

TheRealFellatio Tue 23-Jul-13 16:50:35

Oops, sorry. blush I'm sure she'd hate my DC names too. grin

TheRealFellatio Tue 23-Jul-13 16:51:13

If it's any consolation one of my DC has a very marmite name which is frequently mentioned as awful on here.

AndieDisestablishment Tue 23-Jul-13 16:56:34

therealfellatio Cheers for bashing my kids' names by the way. Also saying naming a child after a GoT character is cheesey - why is naming a child after a Harry Potter character not?? Flawed logic, both a series of novels, both brilliant. hmm

Can I just say that Aryan was a middle eastern race? That's the etymology of the name, prononced "Ah-ryan" not "Airian"

And here was me thinking MN would be anti Luna with it's
To be fair I do like it, just worried about schoolyard "Luna-tic" jibes. confused

Onesleeptillwembley Tue 23-Jul-13 16:57:01

Every one of those names is truly awful.sad

AndieDisestablishment Tue 23-Jul-13 16:58:49

Cross post!! Hahaha, at least you like my son's name, the other two are my DSS's so I had no hand in picking those (although I do like them) and I think Keeley is a bit "marmite" as you have said about your DC.

AndieDisestablishment Tue 23-Jul-13 16:59:33

Reallyconstructive onesleep cheers. angry

Theas18 Tue 23-Jul-13 16:59:44

Poor OP. Mumsnet is being awfully frank today. Bordering on cruel

If helps Aria/Arya round here seems to be an Asian boys name?

TheRealFellatio Tue 23-Jul-13 17:02:27

Well that's the double edged sword that is the Baby Names topic on MN. You ask for opinions and you get them.

Most of the names in Harry Potter are not made up, if that helps. So if you called a child Harry or Hermione or Ron people would have no way of knowing whether they were HP inspired or not. Whereas if you called a child Eddard or Gollum or Anakin they'd jut think you watched to much telly and need to get out more.

AndieDisestablishment Tue 23-Jul-13 17:08:35

Theas I know,I think Mumsnetneeds to get out of the sun and have an ice Arya is a sanskrit/hebrew name with neutral gender. I've nevr heard it round here (but on the maternity ward I work on I seem to hear the same names every day).
TheRealFellatio Don't even start about Star Wars names, had to put my foot down with DP about that!lol. I have a friend called Wendy, that's a mde up name, people don't aske her parents if she read Peter Pan too many times.lmao

TheRealFellatio Tue 23-Jul-13 17:11:39

I agree - sometimes names fall into such common usage that no-one bats an eyelid any more and Wendy is a perfect example of that, but the first 50 Wendys' parents must have had a really hard time!

maja00 Tue 23-Jul-13 17:17:07

How fucking rude onesleep!

Unlurked Tue 23-Jul-13 17:19:02

I like Luna and Arya. I think Luna is probably my favourite of the two.

Bowlersarm Tue 23-Jul-13 17:22:52

I like Luna. It would be inevitable that she would get called lunatic at school, she would just have to have a thick skin about it and smile sweetly until they got fed up.

specialsubject Tue 23-Jul-13 17:26:18

Harry Potter and Game of Thrones will both be old news in two years, so no-one will remember the derivation.

I also think 'Aryan'. 'Luna' means all her friends will call her 'looney'.

Bowlersarm Tue 23-Jul-13 17:26:25

Sorry, didn't finish. Not sure if you are looking for opinions on Flynn or if it is a certainty, but not keen on that one. Reminds me of 'flan" which isn't a great word. Ds3 has a friend called Flynn, and he is always correcting people when they call him Finn (with a roll of the eyes)

Onesleeptillwembley Tue 23-Jul-13 17:31:03

maj you're entitled to your opinion, as am I. Doesn't stop it being true.

maja00 Tue 23-Jul-13 17:35:30

Calling someone's children's names awful is incredibly rude, whether it is your opinion or not. Hope you're this lovely in real life.

Onesleeptillwembley Tue 23-Jul-13 17:38:00


Bowlersarm Tue 23-Jul-13 17:54:37

onesleep the OP wasn't asking for opinions on names of existing children. There is little she can do about those names now! If you commented negatively on a name she was considering then fair enough, she's asking for opinions. You've just tried to make her feel not too good about the children's names she already has.

Zynzong Tue 23-Jul-13 17:57:30

I agree wrt Aryan race. I'd avoid even Aria to be honest.

Luna is the first half of the word lunatic, and I can't get past that.

Flynn is ok, makes me think of Flynn Ryder in Tangled!!

kelda Tue 23-Jul-13 17:57:56

Go for Arya, simply so that the new baby has her own initial.

PicnicPie Tue 23-Jul-13 18:08:08

Love Luna. Short and sweet and simple. Easy to pronounce. Whereas I feel Arya can easily be misspelt and mispronounced.

Firstly, I love Flynn. Would have named my son that but it happened to be the name of my (disappeared, deadbeat) dad so I couldn't sad

Luna is a beautiful name. Arya sounds a bit too close to Aryan/that whole lot for comfort- a beautiful name though. What about Aria- similar, still has a beautiful meaning but not with the uncomfortable connections? Luna sounds cheerful and bright and seems to go well with the others. Arianna? I like that you are naming them after favourite characters- it's unusual and gives it a special meaning.

Maybe Maisie- the name of Arya's actor? Or Talisa? (Nn Tally/Lizzie/Alli).

Also Catelyn (obvs) and maybe Lysa, Selyse, Yara. Meera, Doreah, Roslin, Olenna (love this name!) .

Okay, most of those aren't suitable names for a child, but some might be?

Queazy Tue 23-Jul-13 20:26:50

I love Flynn and now stealing it for my own list smile

I'm not hugely keen on Luna. I don't think kids will automatically call the poor thing Lunatic but think Alana or Lena are far prettier (almost) comparable names. I wouldn't worry about TV programme names unless they're blatantly made up.

Sorry you've had so much stick about your other kids names. I love the name Logan, same with Mason. I told someone I wanted to call my baby Tabitha and they told me I was cruel and it was awful. I've stopped asking others - going to use it anyway as I love it!


Leeds2 Tue 23-Jul-13 20:35:58

I wouldn't choose either Luna or Aria.

I actually think that Luna is lovely, but Lunatic/Looney would be inevitable, imo.

lolitabelle Wed 24-Jul-13 08:29:52

How is Arya pronounced? Air-ia or Ar-ia? (Not a huge GoT fan- sorry!)

For what it's worth, I think it's a beautiful name either way. I think both are a bit more 'out there' than your other dc's names but I think that's just because I know a Logan, two Rowans, a Keeley and a Mason. Contrary to what some of the other rude people have said, I think they're all lovely.

I like Luna but it's the name of my best friend's dog which is the only reason I'm put off!

Choccyhobnob Wed 24-Jul-13 14:24:11

We must have similar taste! I started a thread the other day about Luna and Arya is my favourite game of thrones character so I love both! Plus my name is Keely (so thanks to the person who said Keeley was f***ing awful! or maybe Keely is better? lol)

I think Luna goes best with the nature of your other DC's names xx

Alohomora Wed 24-Jul-13 17:56:09

I love all of them, have several of them on my 'list' but, being German, also have reservations about Arya - it brings up bad associations (even though my first thought is actually of opera!). It's also becoming very popular, at least in the US, because of GoT so it might become quite common in her age group.

Morgause Wed 24-Jul-13 18:00:06

I'd never call a DC after any TV character. Remember the flurry of Tiffanies, Charlenes, Tegans etc?

PerchedOnMyPeddleStool Wed 24-Jul-13 18:10:48

Arya.. Ehm no.
I just had a conversation in my head.

Hi what's your name.
Am I what? (Confused look)
You asked my name, Arya.

I did ask your name, so what is it.

Oh FFS, I give up.

I'd pick Luna too.

CircassianLeyla Wed 24-Jul-13 18:15:08

I think they are both lovely. Arya slightly ahead for me but they are both lovely names.

It doesn't matter if the Aryans were originally a Middle Eastern race, a lot of people will hear the name and think 'white supremacists'.

mewkins Wed 24-Jul-13 20:35:25

I love ike Arya and Luna. Nowt wrong with a Potter reference (secretly LOVE the name Ginny!) And Arya reminds me of a Mozart Aria and generally has a nice musical quality to it.
Just throwing in a random name here, but Astrid?

Edma Wed 24-Jul-13 21:09:03

Love Flynn. And Luna.

IndianMummy Wed 24-Jul-13 21:16:17

Flynn is great, and as for the girl's name; Game of Thrones all the way!!

FoofFighter Wed 24-Jul-13 21:18:49

Didn't you already post a long thread about this last week or am I going bonkers?

I know a Euna if that's any good?

KateCroydon Wed 24-Jul-13 21:31:15

Arianna could be a decent compromise - I like all your DC's names btw.

Alisvolatpropiis Wed 24-Jul-13 21:33:31

I prefer Arya to Luna.

Arya is Ah-ya which is nothing to do with Aryan as in Air-ee-an.

OP I know someone with a daughter named Arya, she must be over a year old now. Nothing but compliments.

Alisvolatpropiis Wed 24-Jul-13 21:37:12

Also my dp is a historian,specialising in WWII and didn't connect Arya to Nazism/White Supremisicm.

AnythingNotEverything Wed 24-Jul-13 21:52:32

Wendy isn't a made up name. It was popularised by JMBarrie, but was first recorded in the 1880s, 20 years before Peter Pan was published.

I prefer Luna to Arya btw.

How about Lyra from the Philip Pulman books? Not so popular as GOT, (which I started reading over 10 years ago, can't believe how popular they are!)

PS, I know sisters called Galadrial and Lotharial!

Alisvolatpropiis Wed 24-Jul-13 22:14:04

Lyra is great!

Alis no-one is going to tell the parents of a baby called Arya that her name makes them sound like racists! grin

Alisvolatpropiis Wed 24-Jul-13 22:23:14

IHeart you'd think that - but not where I live.

Example - on Facebook: here's baby Delilah! "Why have you named her after a Biblical whore?".

Or: here's my beautiful baby girl Beige! " is that a joke?".

It might be Facebook but these people all know each other to some extent blush

Mhysa Wed 24-Jul-13 22:34:58

LOVE Arya, strong name (big g.o.t fan girl )I think Arya Luna is a fab name. I think Arya maybe the Buffy esq name of the moment iykwim, there were a few Anya's in the late 90's but doesn't hold the Buffy connotations if you hear the name now and agree with the other poster, would have own initial, that could be your argument with your DH wink

nooka Thu 25-Jul-13 02:32:19

I'd not personally use names from fantasy books for a child (great for pets though). Having said that I really like the character Arya from GoT, but given the way that George R R Martin writes I'd be concerned about how her story ends! As you already have a Logan I'd avoid Luna because of the shared initial.

ScumbagCollegeDropout Thu 25-Jul-13 02:39:35

I really like both of them <helpful>

Was also going to suggest Lyra.

Go with the geek, both my DCs have incredibly geeky names grin

ch1134 Fri 26-Jul-13 12:00:15

I like both... that won't help settle the debate will it?
Luna is pretty but anything referring to the moon does link to the idea of lunacy. I knew a little girl called Arya - she was Turkish and very sweet. Luna goes better with your other children's names but I think I prefer Arya.

AndieDisestablishment Fri 26-Jul-13 12:20:40

Thank you Alis for trying to help me get across the important pronunciation distinction that completely negates those "Airian" connotations!!
Thanks everyone who's been constructive too. I'll use the "own initial" point with DP and see how it goes. smile

itsnothingoriginal Fri 26-Jul-13 20:34:56

I like Luna but it makes me think of my mamas and papas Luna pushchair!! I love Lyra as mentioned above.

Not sure about Arya but I think I prefer Arianna or something which sounds more 'substantial' to my ears.

Flynn is quite nice

Wineandchoccy Fri 26-Jul-13 20:41:51

I love Luna but just to through another name into the mix I met a little girl called Avya today and thought it was lovely.

But it doesn't negate the 'Aryan' connotations if you see it written down first (which lots of people will), as it's spelled the same.

AndieDisestablishment Sat 27-Jul-13 10:36:04

Anybody who sees it written down before they've heard tge pronunciation and thinks we've named our child after a racist movement are going to be people that don't know us and therefore, we won't be bothered. When I first read it I knew how it was pronounced, if other people don't then whatever.

sashh Sat 27-Jul-13 11:15:55

Luna is going to be nicknamed Loony. Arya kicks ass and sounds to me more like a piece of opera than a racial issue.

Is your dh a fan or Tron OP?

I'd be bothered if ANYONE thought I'd named my kid after a racist movement! But hey ho, sounds like you're already convinced. Not quite sure what you were aiming to get from this thread if you're not bothered what people think tbh confused

Canidae Sat 27-Jul-13 23:39:06

My concern with naming her after a GOT character is that we have no idea how the series will go. I doubt it will happen but what if Arya turns into an unlikable character?

notanyanymore Sat 27-Jul-13 23:42:55

Arya, lovely name. Lunar, not so much.

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 27-Jul-13 23:47:13

I think Arya has a history before the GOT (whose story I think will end badly judging by where we're at in the books). I believe it's an Indian or Hindu name originally.

I believe Aryan was also Indian or Hindu in origin before it was appropriated by Hitler.

ScumbagCollegeDropout Sun 28-Jul-13 02:42:05

Canidae I think she will more than likely be killed off wink

JoniR Sun 28-Jul-13 10:16:45

I really like both.
I wouldn't make the Arya/Arian connection as the pronunciation is different.
I wouldn't worry about the Luna/lunatic thing either.

rosyryan Sun 28-Jul-13 11:43:36

I think both Arya and Luna are lovely.

MummyPig24 Mon 29-Jul-13 20:56:25

Luna is much nicer than Arya.

DebK2012 Mon 05-Aug-13 21:04:46

They are both pretty marmite names and personally I wouldn't like arya but Luna is nice to prone to slebs children

LillyNotOfTheValley Mon 05-Aug-13 21:39:25

Arya makes me think "opera" too and I would spell it the italian way, ie Aria. Beautiful name in my opinion.
Luna is nice but a bit weaker, iyswim.

I know a little Yuna (parents are Cornish), maybe it could be a compromise? Good luck!!

Redlocks30 Mon 05-Aug-13 21:42:31

I'm really not keen on any of those, tbh. Flynn makes me think of Disney and the other two of books/films. Sorry.

curlew Mon 05-Aug-13 21:45:35

And you're sure your child is going to be a pagan or a geek, are you

Not sure why a GOT name would fit a pagan anyway.........

curlew Mon 05-Aug-13 21:47:06

"I wouldn't worry about the Luna/lunatic thing either."

No, you've no need to. You're not going to have to deal with the hilarity it will cause among your little friends.......

toobreathless Tue 06-Aug-13 21:06:34

LOVE Luna, how do you province Arya? I think I like it too but can't picture it in my mind.

I suspect we have similar criteria & my girls are Hazel (plant/reconciliation) & Celeste (heavenly)

toobreathless Tue 06-Aug-13 21:07:09

LOVE Flynn too.

AngusAndElspethsThistleWhistle Tue 06-Aug-13 21:14:50

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chattychattyboomba Thu 08-Aug-13 00:36:37

Hehem... Hello.
Arya is a lovely name. As is Aria.
My DD is Ariana and we get compliments on her name almost daily. If anyone makes the Connection about nazi's that's just silly. It is originally a Persian name and means 'silver'.
It is pronounced Uh-ri-uh-na.
Aria is Sanskrit and is a unisex name.
Arianna with 2 n's is quite obviously ah-ri-ah-na
I may be biased by I prefer the name Arya. It just sounds prettier. Luna may mean moon but our friend has a crazy cocker spaniel named Luna and quite frankly she's a lunatic.

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