Royal baby likely to be a Mary!!!

(86 Posts)
vinobaroness Sun 07-Jul-13 08:08:53

I know there are lots of Royal baby threads I decided to start yet another! Apparently the big money has been put on Mary!!! I love it sounds so fresh yet vintage & sooo regal!!! Alice the other hot contendor for a girl!!!! So so excited!? Whats the opinions on Mary or Alice? George hot favorite for boy X

delilahbelle Sun 07-Jul-13 08:10:39

Mary is the name I want to use if I ever get pregnant and have a girl so they better not!

waikikamookau Sun 07-Jul-13 08:13:12

do the parents get to chose or do they have to follow protocol?

vinobaroness Sun 07-Jul-13 08:16:21

I always loved Mary too, its my moms name & I honoured her by using Molly for my lovely dd however I can't see Kate doing the same however!!!My mom delighted her names is in the running!!!

vinobaroness Sun 07-Jul-13 08:20:57

Apparently they can choose the princess Madeline of Sweden called their daughter Estelle last year which really divided Sweden as it has no royal history they simply liked the name. Estelle will one day be queen too. Kate & William are expected to be traditional & choose a previously used Royal name.

waikikamookau Sun 07-Jul-13 08:26:14

well there aren't that many female names to chose from traditionally.

perhaps it will be victoria

CheeseFondueRocks Sun 07-Jul-13 10:05:59

Princess Madeleine has no children. She only got married a few weeks a go. It's Victoria who has Estelle. [pedantic]

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Sun 07-Jul-13 10:39:39

It is DD's, who's 2.11, middle name, so I clearly approve. DD's first name is also in the running!

It's not a foregone conclusion by any means, and it seems like a slightly too obvious/easy choice.

Not long to wait now, to find out though.

brokenhearted55 Sun 07-Jul-13 11:00:10

I thought Alexandra was a hot contender too?

Elquota Sun 07-Jul-13 11:17:34

Mary is lovely and is more unusual than Alice at the moment.

I'm guessing Alexandra though.

George is a lovely classic boys name.

mrspaddy Sun 07-Jul-13 11:20:41

Nooooo... I hope they don't I am on the countdown now to our (surprise sex) baby and if it is a girl she will be Mary. Do you think they will though... I honestly think they won't. I don't think they will go for Frances either due to new Pope.

squoosh Sun 07-Jul-13 12:31:27

My middle name, the middle name of EVERY Irish woman my age.

It's fresher in England, I find it hard to get beyond the Our Lady connection.

nellymartin Sun 07-Jul-13 13:20:41

Cannot go wrong with Mary, Evangeline, or Valencia!

FreedomOfTheTess Sun 07-Jul-13 13:21:18

My 3 week old DD2 is Mary.

I was due about the same time as Catherine, but Mary arrived 4.5 weeks early (perfectly healthy), so at least if they do use it, I got in first!

HotCrossPun Sun 07-Jul-13 13:26:12

That's my middle name.

Glad to hear its a contender as according to MN I have a very chavvy first name grin

RoseFlowerFairy Sun 07-Jul-13 13:29:21

Mary would make a nice change, I like it.

sleepingbeautiful Sun 07-Jul-13 14:47:50

I could see them having Princess Mary.
I've surprisingly heard of a few baby Marys recently. I think it's Downtown Abbey making it popular.

mewkins Tue 09-Jul-13 22:16:49

I think Alexandrina Frances for a girl. George Henry perhaps for a boy?

Mary lovely.

Alexandra also a beautiful name.

Albert for a boy? Another Bertie?

Zynnia Wed 10-Jul-13 00:02:29

Boo! I thought so too! I was reading today that a friend of theirs has a 19 month old Alexandra. I know they aren't normal people, they have a more limited selection of names to choose from and "just picking something else" isn't an option for them, but all the same, I wondered if they would use Alexandra if it's their close friends' baby's name.

Zynnia Wed 10-Jul-13 00:03:45

ps, I reckon that the might do Mary Elizabeth and call her Maribel (just around the house like wink

Zynnia Wed 10-Jul-13 00:05:17

Squoosh, yeah we hear 'our lady' hangin in the air before Mary, the British hear Queen of the Scots!

raisah Wed 10-Jul-13 06:56:17

Why can't they choose a name they want rather than recycling the same old names? The need to expand the already limited name bank and there are lots of classic names that they could make royal by using. They are not going to name the baby Jayden or Chantelle are they?!!

lljkk Wed 10-Jul-13 08:31:42

Ooh.... I like Mary a lot. DH finds it too plain.

AnythingNotEverything Wed 10-Jul-13 08:37:28

But they aren't allowed to use Alice. That's what we were intending to call our wriggly bean if a girl.

Should I start an AIBU about how they should have asked permission? wink

RussiansOnTheSpree Wed 10-Jul-13 08:43:47

squoosh - mine too. Same reason. They'll never use it. For that reason.

Sorry to offend anyone but I'm not as keen on Alexandra, because to me it's like Wilhemena or similar, and slightly a boy's name converted to a girl's. I'd prefer Mary or especially Alice personally. George nice for a boy - one we considered for DS (but didn't choose in the end !)

Ooh, anyone know, is Kate in labour - or was that just a rumour/ bit of fun on another thread ? Am ridiculously excited, must get a life !!

PoppyAmex Wed 10-Jul-13 08:53:20

There are dozens of European Queens called Mary / Maria, but there's such a strong Catholic connotation that I doubt they'll choose it.

DD is Maria and I think it's a beautiful elegant name, but I'm from Southern Europe originally and they're 10 a penny grin

PeterParkerSays Wed 10-Jul-13 08:54:16

I thought that Bookies had stopped taking bets on Charlotte?

Prefer Charlotte to Mary tbh.

I think the royal Princess Charlotte was incredibly popular but died in childbirth (around Victorian times, perhaps slightly earlier ?) so think that might put them off that one ? Also to me doesn't sound that English ?
(more French ?)

mewkins Thu 11-Jul-13 21:45:09

Ooh yes Charlotte has a good ring to it! Or Victoria (as my mum is convinced they will call her). I suspect Zara will choose something a bit out of the ordinary for hers.

Zyn Thu 11-Jul-13 21:46:59

why aren't they allowed to use the name Alice??

Zyn Thu 11-Jul-13 21:48:12

Vickkkkkkkkkaaaaaiy is like Bianca. they wouldn't - surely not?

notanyanymore Thu 11-Jul-13 21:53:12

Ah DD3 was Mary right through the pregnancy until dp suddenly vetoed it the saturday before she was born! Would have been a bit disappointed though if we had called her that and then they jumped on the band wagon a few months later, everyone would think we'd copied them! grin

TheSecondComing Thu 11-Jul-13 21:57:24

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Zyn Thu 11-Jul-13 22:18:38

Some silly article in the dm was saying who in their circle already had kids and they are friendly with some couple that has an Alexandra, 19 months old. Obviously they're not like normal people who can just choose another name, The Firm might tell them to pick it anyway, but at the same time they're quite modern and mightn't want to call their baby same name as good friends' baby? so, if I were their friend wink I mean, if I were working for a bookies I'd be surprised if it's Alexandra.

What about Alexander for a boy though?

Zyn Thu 11-Jul-13 22:23:30

oh :-| they aren't allowed to use Alice because it is AnythingNotEverything's name I see grin

NomDeClavier Thu 11-Jul-13 22:30:08

Princess Frances sounds a bit awful though. It's more likely a middle name IMO.

I like Mary, although they might be worried about Bloody Mary jokes (Mary I) or William & Mary (husband and wife rather than father and daughter).

Victoria would make the baby Queen Victoria II which would be hard to live up to only 150ish years on (assuming that's when a potential DD is likely to ascend).

Charlotte has unfortunate precedent of not surviving to become Queen.

Alice has never been used but is nice. I like Mathilda, Maud or Georgina too, but I think Alexandra is a pretty strong contender.

capercaillie Thu 11-Jul-13 22:34:51

I hope they choose Mary over Alice!!! I do not want that name becoming anymore popular. Mine is 3 and it was well down the popularity list 3 years ago

Zyn Thu 11-Jul-13 22:41:11

Frances is too banal
Charlotte is too French
Alexandra is the name of their friends' child
Matilda is too middle class - kate will avoid that
Victoria is dreadful!! too much to live up to. And "vickkkkkaaaay" is a bit tired, needs to rest.
Alice or Mary I reckon, sorry everything!!

George for a boy.

Zyn Thu 11-Jul-13 22:42:23

or Jane? is Jane a royal name?

pooka Thu 11-Jul-13 22:45:23

Adelaide
Matilda
Caroline
Victoria

NeedSomeSun142 Thu 11-Jul-13 22:46:54

I think Diana will be in there somewhere!

LadyBeagleEyes Thu 11-Jul-13 22:49:09

Is it definitely a girl then?

pooka Thu 11-Jul-13 22:49:45

Tough actually I think the queen/king gets to choose his or her own name when they are crowned, so it doesn't follow that would be queen Mary/Alice or whatever. W don't know whether Charles will decide to be Charles III or not. George vi was Albert. Edward viii was edward, but known as David. All over the place these royals!

NomDeClavier Thu 11-Jul-13 22:54:52

Lady Jane Grey...not a great precedent.

Although monarchs do get to choose their regnal name the assumption would be with Victoria or Mary in particular that they would be the future Victoria II or Mary III.

I forgot Adelaide. I've been championing it since the beginning and it's one of my favourite names, but I'm now expecting DC2 and want to use it so really hoping they don't!

TheSecondComing Thu 11-Jul-13 23:50:35

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TalkativeJim Fri 12-Jul-13 00:01:29

Lisa, definitely Lisa.

Lisa Michelle

TalkativeJim Fri 12-Jul-13 00:02:37

Pipkin Django for a boy of course.

TalkativeJim Fri 12-Jul-13 00:06:04

SERIOUSLY.

Mary is too Catholic. I think it will be one of -

Alice
Eleanor
Georgiana.

I'm convinced it's a girl, I'll be so surprised if they have a boy.

George if a boy though.

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Fri 12-Jul-13 03:38:59

If you dig deep enough, every royal name has a bad precedent. Charles does. Mary does.

I really don't think they can possibly let that put them off - you'd have to be the most woo-y, superstitious type to let it put you off, and I don't think Wills and Kate are. They are many things, and they will obviously go with an approved name, but I genuinely can't see them not going for a name because someone historically with the name came to a sticky end.

If they let royal names with 'bad precedents' put them off, then they might as well call the baby 'X'!

ashlee1992 Wed 17-Jul-13 15:19:39

Charlotte Elizabeth Frances Mary
Kate's mother's/sister's middle name, The queen's name/Kate's middle name, Diana's middle name and the queen's second middle name.

Arthur Henry Michael Phillip
Arthur is just what I fancy, Henry for Harry, Michael for Kate's father and Phillip for HRH!

Anything else I've managed to rule out due to bad associations (or I'm just not willing to accept they'd choose a name I don't like)

And I've convinced myself they won't use Diana or they won't be allowed

I've spent way more time than I'd like to admit researching this...

bornagaindomesticgoddess Wed 17-Jul-13 15:24:49

Lizzie Diana or Louis Henry.

PeriodMath Wed 17-Jul-13 18:21:59

I am certain it's going to be Alice Elizabeth Mary Diana.

Fenton Wed 17-Jul-13 18:27:07

Mary is another name for Lady garden where I come from.

AstroSnot Wed 17-Jul-13 21:49:05

Anna ? Simple and regal.

mathanxiety Thu 18-Jul-13 00:44:26

Squoosh
My middle name, the middle name of EVERY Irish woman my age.

Me too, and then I gave it to DD4 as her MN.

Mary of Teck (real name Victoria Mary Augusta Louise Olga Pauline Claudine Agnes but usually known as 'May' until she became Queen Consort) was George V's wife. Her mother was Princess Mary Adelaide.

mewkins Fri 19-Jul-13 21:24:27

Yes Eleanor coukd be a contender.

Definitely George for a boy and Victoria for a girl, but Id like Jane.

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Fri 19-Jul-13 21:57:58

Out of interest, why do you think it's definitely going to be Victoria for a girl?

I think that is one of the least likely names, if it's a girl.

There's already been a hugely successful reigning Victoria - wouldn't they want to give this child its own identity?

Victoria is a bit dated - lots of 30-something women with the name (not that this is a reason on its own not to use it). And Vicky is really not great.

Oh, and that very famous 30-something woman with the name. They wouldn't want to give any hint of naming the child after her, would they?! wink

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Fri 19-Jul-13 22:00:00

But agree with Jane. Fabulously, simple, non-frilly, elegant, classic name.

And no, Lady Jane Grey is not a reason not to use it.

BlueStarsAtNight Fri 19-Jul-13 22:09:49

Ooh I like Jane - might be a silly question but would she be Queen Jane II? Does Lady Jane Grey "count"?!

Mintyy Fri 19-Jul-13 22:12:47

Love the name Mary. Love it.

Unfortunately, the only woman I have ever truly hated in my whole long life is called Mary. If this were not the case then I would have named dd Mary.

BOF Fri 19-Jul-13 22:15:36

Who the fuck is Alice?

Dunno, Alice doesn't live here anymore.

The definitely is just my definitely via my own telephatic powers grin but I have had a little think, would they call their baby the same name as Victoria beckham hmm, what about Elizabeth?

CoolStoryBro Fri 19-Jul-13 22:19:00

Am I the only one who is secretly hoping that they have been reading the MN baby name threads and choose a "K" name as a giant F you to all the ridiculous snobbery on there?!! grin

Snazzyenjoyingsummer Fri 19-Jul-13 22:34:06

I love Mary - classic and underused at least in Britain - but don't think they will pick it.

ashlee I like all your suggestions, but I disagree on Diana - I think they will use it as a middle name.

KittenofDoom Fri 19-Jul-13 23:12:09

If it's a girl, then being as she would be the first girl in no danger of being bumped from the succession by a younger brother ... an interesting and appropriate choice would be Matilda. Matilda should have been Queen on the death of her father Henry I, but was denied by the barons who installed Stephen as king.

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Sat 20-Jul-13 02:54:42

Nooo, definitely not Elizabeth, at least not as a first name. Way too big shoes to fill!

Our current Queen's grandmother was Queen Mary. It wasn't 'too Catholic' for her...

There are other names such as Louise and Adelaide that could in theory get a look in.

VBisme Sat 20-Jul-13 04:12:08

Deffo should be Victoria Mary Elizabeth Alice

mathanxiety Sat 20-Jul-13 04:29:17

Iirc, there is already a Louise - the DD of Edward and Sophie?

I think Adelaide may be where my money will go.

MortifiedAdams Sat 20-Jul-13 05:39:13

Im going for Francesca for a girl and Thomas for a boy.

jeee Sat 20-Jul-13 05:48:24

I suggest they call the child 'Anglesey'. Unique, unisex, and it would annoy Katie Hopkins immensely.

katydid02 Sat 20-Jul-13 06:05:53

I think they will go for something new and original, like, oh, Jezebel perhaps?

TheRealFellatio Sat 20-Jul-13 06:34:33

I love Mary and I've been hoping for a comeback for it for a couple of years - maybe this will be it!

EmilyAlice Sat 20-Jul-13 06:45:44

Not sure about Mary, the first one wasn't a very happy Queen. I still think Elizabeth, but called Beth, Liza or another of the diminutives until she becomes Queen.

coffeewineandchocolate Sat 20-Jul-13 06:58:30

I think they will use the opportunity to break the mould, show the public they are moving with the times. that's the way the palace is trying to present them in general. that said, I wouldn't expect a Britney or an Ellie- mae

Lionchair23 Sat 20-Jul-13 09:52:09

Bookies favourite for a boy is now James . I have never thought James was a option as Edward has a son James so the queen would then have a grandson and great grandson with same name .

TheHandbagOfGlory Sat 20-Jul-13 10:00:24

Her brother is James too.

Also there is already a Princess Alexandra who is implicated in some rumours so I don't know if they would go for that name either?

forevergreek Sat 20-Jul-13 10:51:11

I actually think they could use:

Girl: leonora ( with Elizabeth and diana at least as middle names)
Boy: Leonard / Leopold ( with Philippe / Albert/ Charles)

Prince or princess Leo has a nice ring to it

peachypips Sat 20-Jul-13 10:55:19

Still think it will be Isobella.

LeGavrOrf Sat 20-Jul-13 10:59:33

Adelaide would be great. Or Alexandrina (which was Queen Victoria's first name iirc).

Or Sophia. The Act of Settlement stated that all monarchs should be descended from Sophia, who was Queen Anne's heir to the throne (she died before Anne so her son inherited and became George I). So it has a royal precedent. And it is my daughter's name so obviously I think it is great. grin

What about Margaret?

I reckon they should be really adventurous and name it Berengaria.

soda1234 Sat 20-Jul-13 21:56:40

I think , if it's a girl, Eliza would be lovely. They could always put Elizabeth on the birth cert.

PeriodMath Sat 20-Jul-13 23:36:11

Won't be Eliza, Camilla's daughter has an Eliza.

Sweet name though.

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Sun 21-Jul-13 00:39:40

Not sure about Mary, the first one wasn't a very happy Queen.

I can't imagine Charles I was too happy when they were knocking his block off. grin

But that didn't stop our Queen from bestowing the name on a future monarch.

Seriously. Pretty much every royal name has a bad precedent. I'm not saying it will be Mary. But it won't not be Mary because one of the predecessors had a few, um, anger-management and health issues.

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