Is Grace an overly used/boring middle name?

(48 Posts)
MrsLianeB Fri 05-Jul-13 21:45:04

First name choice for a girl is Eliza and think Grace flows nicely for a middle name but as the title suggests is it a bit boring and common? Any other nice middle name choices to go instead?

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Fri 05-Jul-13 21:54:03

To me, Grace, Rose and May are filler names. Meaningless noise, just put there because you're supposed to have a middle name, and these one-syllable names are inoffensive, easy and go with pretty much everything.

They're all nice names, and yes, plenty of people do choose them for personal reasons, which is absolutely fine.

But plenty of people don't.

There are loads of other one-syllable names to choose from. And plenty of other names as well. Something like Simone or Celine flows on well from Eliza. Those names might not be to your taste, but think of the rhythm of the two names together - a two syllable name with the accent on the 2nd syllable sounds really nice with Eliza. smile

GaiusIsAnAceName Fri 05-Jul-13 21:55:14

Normally yes, although Eliza Grace does have a good ring to it

superdupermama Fri 05-Jul-13 22:10:37

I love the name, don't think it's boring, but what do I know, I am confused myself. Would never go for very unusual unique sounding names. A daughter of my neighbour is Grace, and she is so cute!

LookingForwardToMarch Fri 05-Jul-13 22:12:40

If you like it go with it.

Its not like anyone knows about middle names, or even has to use them unless it is for a form.

nicky2512 Fri 05-Jul-13 22:13:11

Grace is an absolutely beautiful name, with a special meaning. Nothing "filler" about it at all!!! angry

ladymia Fri 05-Jul-13 22:13:27

I would say yes

PleaseDoNotAdjustYourSet Fri 05-Jul-13 22:37:55

Brutally honest, I find Grace a boring name.

NotMyChashkaChai Fri 05-Jul-13 22:51:29

Personally I'm not keen on grace, but Eliza grace does flow quite well.

Elquota Fri 05-Jul-13 23:02:58

Grace is a lovely name, so if you like it, use it smile

Eliza Coralie
Eliza Meredith
Eliza Florence
Eliza Daisy
Eliza Harriet
Eliza Josephine

bellablot Fri 05-Jul-13 23:16:09

Fuck off name haters, Grace is a beautiful name, timeless and elegant. No shame can be classed as boring, surely!? blush

PerchedOnMyPeddleStool Fri 05-Jul-13 23:19:39

Yes Grace is boring and very overused.

Eliza and your surname will be fine.

Why do people still need middle names?!

SanityClause Fri 05-Jul-13 23:20:46

Grace is a lovely name. Why waste it on a middle name?

PrincessKitKat Fri 05-Jul-13 23:25:24

I love the name Grace!
I'm sure it is meh for those who like 'unique' names, but I'm all for timeless classics smile

Yika Fri 05-Jul-13 23:29:11

I find it boring but my own name has become boringly common and I still love it. My DDs name is also boringly common but I still love it. But there would be many other lovely names that would go with Eliza too. Why not give her two middle names? Grace and another more unusual one? My DD has two.

Or how about
Eliza Beth ;)

Kaekae Fri 05-Jul-13 23:31:35

Eliza and Grace are names I used to like, but just far too overused now, so I do find them quite boring. Sorry.

paisleyswirls Sat 06-Jul-13 00:22:09

I usually wouldn't use Grace as it's so popular, but Eliza Grace does flow nicely. Other possibilities are:
Eliza Rosalind
Eliza Delphine
Eliza Gretchen
Eliza Hermione
Eliza Frances
Eliza Beatrice

Or some ideas from The Times/Telegraph (single middle names):
Eliza Dorothy
Eliza Mariquita
Eliza Clementine
Eliza Scarlett
Eliza Alice
Eliza Rose
Eliza Jane
Eliza Eve
Eliza Rose
Eliza Lucy
Eliza Mary
Eliza Honor
Eliza Iona
Eliza May
Eliza Patricia
Eliza Beatrice
Eliza Suzanne
Eliza Helena
Eliza Clementine
Eliza Mary
Eliza Charlotte
Eliza Rose
Eliza Cordelia
Eliza Alice
Eliza Jessica
Eliza Rosamund
Eliza Sarah
Eliza Ann
Eliza Bluebell
Eliza Lucy
Eliza Josephine
Eliza Hope

Double middle names:
Eliza Clementine Violet
Eliza Mary Hope
Eliza Josephine Frances
Eliza Rose Diana
Eliza Beatrice Rose
Eliza Florence Georgina
Eliza Mary Phoenix
Eliza April Nancy
Eliza Lily Rosemary
Eliza India Peta
Eliza Miranda Rosemary
Eliza Moira Hope
Eliza Clara May
Eliza Janet Mella
Eliza Isobel Sophie
Eliza Nancy Rose
Eliza Jane Hope
Eliza Louise Michelle
Eliza Alice Amy
Eliza Adele Dorothea
Eliza Amy May Victoria
Eliza Sandie Rose
Eliza Rose Henrietta
Eliza Victoria Rose
Eliza Charlotte Phoebe

Well that filled ten quiet minutes!

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Sat 06-Jul-13 01:54:22

It's not an 'either / or' situation, PrincessKitKat - there's a vast swathe of middle ground. Believe me, I am a timeless, classic devotee, but I do think Grace - as a middle name - is somewhat tired and overused.

The OP did ask.

And 'fuck off name haters'...? hmm Who woke the beast? Nobody's said they hate it; merely offered their opinion on having been asked.

PeriodMath Sat 06-Jul-13 02:07:16

I agree it's a filler name. I think the best middle names are family names. No-one other than you will ever really know or care what the middle name is so why not use it as an opportunity to honour a family member?

Weegiemum Sat 06-Jul-13 02:11:57

It sounds nice.

However ...

I only know 2 couples who have used Grace as a middle name.

One because they'd been told they'd never have children, other after previous dc was stillborn. Both really using the meaning of Grace.

I think that's really better than because it "sounds nice" or "flows well".

squoosh Sat 06-Jul-13 02:43:36

So boring and so overused and so predictable.

If it was ten years ago Grace would not even enter your mind. It has just seeped into your subconscious as it's so common. Lots of other lovely one syllable girls' names to choose from.

sleepingbeautiful Sat 06-Jul-13 02:47:54

I really like Grace but I do think it's over-used as a middle name at the moment.
When I was at both primary and high school I think all the girls in my classes had one of Elizabeth/Louise/Jane/Marie as middle names. Now Grace/May/Rose are those kind of names.

rundontwalk Sat 06-Jul-13 02:57:13

It's a popular,beautiful name. If you like it,use it. Depends how important popularity is to you. I think Eliza Grace sounds nice. Grace is the middle name of quite a few of my friends babies but who knows what your middle name is anyway. If it does concern you,are there any family names you could use?

Eliza Catherine?
Eliza Imogen?
Eliza Corinne?
Eliza Rose (still pretty popular mind you)
Eliza Sophia (ditto but less as a middle name)

And how nice is Paisley,giving you that whacking great list!

amazingmumof6 Sat 06-Jul-13 03:25:06

ha! my DD is 14 months and she is Elizabeth Grace!

I've no idea about over-use.
I chose that name combo when I was pg with DS1 12 years ago!

and through all my pgs it was always my first or second choice for a girl.
and when she was born last year I was very happy to use it!

btw we call her Lizababa - joint effort of DS3 and DS5grin

amazingmumof6 Sat 06-Jul-13 03:34:10

just read thread

very shock at some comments.
to all the people being so rude - I wonder why you don't like the name Grace.
I hope it's not because it's a reminder of what you are falling short of....hmm

othersideofchannel Sat 06-Jul-13 07:35:34

Grace is now what Jane was in the 70s. I find it dull, overused and yes, a filler name.

Why not give your dd a more meaningful and more interesting name, perhaps one honouring a loved family member? Or a more rare name should she find her find her first name too widely used? Names are for identifying people and Grace doesn't do that too well anymore.

sunnyshine Sat 06-Jul-13 07:45:19

How do you know it's not meaningful to the op?

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Sat 06-Jul-13 08:48:36

We don't.

But she's specifically asked if it's boring and over-used, and if so, do we have any alternative suggestions.

No mention of any particular meaning behind the choice.


It's popular and a common middle name. Who cares? There's a REASON that's it's popular and commonly used. It's a beautiful name which flows well with many other names (it sounds GREAT with Eliza). Just because it's used a lot, doesn't mea anything.

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Sat 06-Jul-13 10:58:55

Well, the OP clearly cares, since she started a thread to ask the question....!

It always amuses me when people respond hotly to say that there's a reason names are popular, because they're nice.

Well, that's patently not true, or otherwise the same names would be popular year in, year out, decade in, decade out. But they're not, are they? Sharon was very popular for a while back in the 60s. As was Tracey. I don't imagine many people would describe them as beautiful names these days.

There was a generation or so when Grace was very out of favour. If you'd asked my late Mum who'd now be in her 70s what she thought of Grace, she'd have said it was frumpy and dated.

Names are popular because they're popular. Because they're in fashion. 'Nice' and 'beautiful' is hugely subjective.

lljkk Sat 06-Jul-13 11:15:20

There are 3 girls called Grace in DS's reception class. 3x Emily, too.
I like Grace a lot, but be braced for it to be overused.

Jojay Sat 06-Jul-13 11:26:01

It is overused (by me for one) bjut that doesn't stop it being nice. I think it's bonkers when someone won't use a name they love, just because it's 'popular'. Especially when it comes to a middle name.

Eliza Grace is beautiful.

Exhaustipated Sat 06-Jul-13 16:39:53

Yes, afraid so.

What about a more unusual one syllable middle name eg




I think Eliza Joy or Eliza Pearl are my faves... smile

HeyMicky Sat 06-Jul-13 16:44:17

Grace is quite a common middle name currently, but if you like it, then you should use it.

I have an Eliza Dorothy and have been complimented often on it. Be warned - Eliza was the highest climbing girls name last year, from the 90s to the 60s, so it will be increasingly common gnash gnash

littlestgirlguide Sat 06-Jul-13 18:18:04

I do love Grace, it's so feminine and pretty. It reminds me of a good friend from Uni :-)
My favourite one-syllable middle name at the moment is Ruth.
Lol at the poster above whose whole class were called Jane/Louise etc - there were just over 200 hundred graduates at my graduation, and just over 40 called something Louise, including me! That's 50% ish of the girls.

bugsybill Sat 06-Jul-13 19:34:06

If the first name is in the top 10 I would avoid grace (and rose and may). Just because of overuse and also possibly identity confusion (particularly if last name is fairly common)

With any other name it is fine and it has a lovely meaning smile

I really like Eliza grace.

StrawberryMojito Sat 06-Jul-13 19:39:15

We are currently trying for dc2, if we have a girl, she will have Grace as a middle name, it was the name of my grandmother who died the year before I was born, I like it and it will make my mum happy. If it wast for those reasons, I probably wouldn't use it.

Grace is lovely but it is (alongside Rose and May/Mae) shaping up to be this generation's Jane/Claire/Louise middle name.

I think it's nice if a middle name has meaning to you, either because it's a family name, or the meaning of the name is significant to you, or it references something else about you, or it's your second choice of first name and flows well with the first choice first name. If Grace falls into one of those categories for you then, absolutely, go for it (if it doesn't but you just really want it as a mn, still go for it... but the fact you posted asking for opinions suggests that you aren't sure).

YvonneJ Sat 06-Jul-13 19:56:15

My thought is that parents have the right to choose what ever middle name they like, its personal.
I called my 16 year old name after my nanny but as her first name is Sarah most people took it as she was Sarah Louise but she is Sarah Lily. So you don't have to run with the crowd

JuicyShops Sat 06-Jul-13 20:00:16

It is a pretty, timeless name that never dates, much like Jack. Nothing like Jane/Claire/Louise, Grace has been popular for generations and is just beautiful! Classic and could never be considered chavvy.

MrsLianeB Sat 06-Jul-13 20:22:47

Wow. Thanks for all the responses, I hadn't intended to cause such a debate. The Eliza is from family and I didn't feel any other female family names fitted alongside it but have liked the name Grace for many years but it seems to have become so popular these days I have a popular middle name for my generation and went to school with lots of middle name twins.

My boys names have been set in stone since before pregnancy and have wavered with girls names the whole 9 months! Who gave us all this responsibility!!!!

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Sat 06-Jul-13 20:23:46

It's not timeless; it's cyclical - there's a difference. It goes in and out fashion.

If it's timeless, them why does hardly anyone from our generation have it (or Rose or May) as a middle name? Because to our parents, Grace was a middle-aged, frumpy name, and it's only now that it's come back into favour.

Anything that is very popular/fashionable inevitably goes out of favour. It's just the way things work.

Less fashionable/popular names date less (and are more timeless), because they're less associated with a particular era. This is why some people actively avoid very popular names - because they're very much aware of this incontrovertible truth.

JuicyShops Sat 06-Jul-13 20:34:37

Gracie was a frumpy old lady name for sure but Grace is a classic name as are Jack and Harry, Lucy, Charlotte, Anna, Elizabeth.

FWIW my sister's mille name is Grace and she is 35 so not sure which generation you are considering Draper.

If I had a baby girl I would consider the classic names as no matter what anyone says a name makes a first impression! Sorry!!

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Sat 06-Jul-13 20:55:15

Your sister is clearly the exception that proves the rule - one glance at the name registers shows that Grace simply was not a popular name choice for our generation, and there was a reason for it.

For what it's worth, my own name is exactly the same - a very cyclical name that goes in and out of fashion with a bang. I am also late 30s with the name, but I was virtually the only one with it when I was younger (never met another peron my age with it), because it was very unpopular in the 70s when I was given it.

Now - it's massively popular again (Isobel) and everyone goes on and on about how it's a 'timeless, classic' name - no it's not timeless, it's cyclical - I know, because I was massively teased for it when I was a child! grin

People seemingly cannot get their heads around the fact that names that sound so lovely and fresh to our ears now, won't to the next generation, who'll think they sound dull and tired through sheer familiarity and over-use. Jack is a good example. Hardly anyone from our generation is called Jack (certainly not as a given name; maybe as a nickname). Another very cyclical name.

I'm not saying these aren't nice, solid, classic, old, established names. I'm simply saying they're not timeless and that they are susceptible to the vagaries of fashion, simply because they are so popular.

Every generation chooses a different set of names from their parents (otherwise we'd be calling our children Joanne, Claire and Karen). There will be exceptions of course, but these exceptions prove the rule.

JuicyShops, all of those things (apart from "Nothing like Jane") could be said of Jane. Looking at the last hundred years or so, Grace was popular a hundred years ago, then dropped in popularity and wasn't used much in the middle of the twentieth century (in 1955 only 110 babies were named Grace), then grew in popularity again. Jane followed a different path -- similar popularity to Grace in the early twentieth century, then grew in popularity and was used a lot in the mid-twentieth century, now has dropped off for a while.

If you were writing in 1955 you wouldn't be referring to Grace as a name that never dates -- classic and pretty though it is, it would have seemed a middle-aged sort of name to you. It just seems as though it's timeless and doesn't move in and out of fashion because it's popular now and was popular a hundred years ago. Give it another generation or two and Jane may be back in vogue while Grace has fallen out of favour again. And give it another generation or two after that and their positions may well have reversed once more.

JuicyShops Sat 06-Jul-13 20:58:33

Interesting! Isobel is a lovely name. I suppose like all of the the nicer ones come back around.

DonDraper, I know an Isabel your age! But I agree with you -- when I met her, I thought "wow, you never meet anyone called Isabel these days, what an interesting classic-yet-unusual choice". I even thought "I may use it for a DD myself one day". By the time I came to actually have DDs there were small Isabels/Isobels/Isabelles all over the place.

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Sat 06-Jul-13 21:10:43

I guess I sort of see the issue and understand it perhaps better than others because of my own name.

I have 'lived' the experience, as it were. grin

It's so hard for (most) people to think of my name, for example, as anything other than a really nice name, now almost too popular because so many people have bestowed it on their daughters.

But it was an awful name for me as a child - I really, really didn't like it. It was old-lady, frumpy, dowdy, middle-aged, and I got teased for it. And I could never, ever buy plastic tat with my name on it, because it simply didn't exist!

Honestly - I am amazed that it is so popular again now. I would never have believed it, if you'd told then 10 year old me!

I do think Grace is one of these names, and interesting to read Tolliver's post.

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