(67 Posts)
salmanadersamantha Wed 15-May-13 14:25:14


I'm new to mumsnet so sorry if I get anything wrong! I was wondering what people thought about the name 'Claire' for a boy? I'm due in a couple of weeks and I quite like the idea but my husband's not sure. I know it's slightly unorthodox!

harleyd Wed 15-May-13 14:26:16

its ridiculous

pooka Wed 15-May-13 14:26:34

No no no!

Oscar for a girl.

Claire for a boy.

WTF is going on today?

pooka Wed 15-May-13 14:27:56

Why would you do this? It's not as if there aren't a gazillion other names, including unisex ones, that you could choose.

pooka Wed 15-May-13 14:28:43

Oscar for a girl? Wtf.

badchat Wed 15-May-13 14:29:15

I would find that very strange. Have never heard of a boy Claire, not even a Clair.




YoniYoniNameLeft Wed 15-May-13 14:29:19

Gorgeous! Go for it. If I had a boy would definitely call him Claire.

Playerpleeease Wed 15-May-13 14:29:41

Was thinking the same wannabe, maybe the same person? looking for a reaction hmm slightly pointless but ho hum grin

noddyholder Wed 15-May-13 14:30:02

Clair is the male spelling i think.It was always a traditionally boys name. My ds has a name that some people on here consider female (it isn't) and apparently I was cruel to invite bullying into his life deliberately grin

tigrou Wed 15-May-13 14:30:40

I thought the boy's name was Clair, without the final e.
Still sound's like a girl's name though.

YoniYoniNameLeft Wed 15-May-13 14:30:51

What about Susan or even Julie.

Julie has such a masculine sound to it, don't you think?

AuntieStella Wed 15-May-13 14:32:22

I sat on my hands instead to stop myself posting on the Oscar thread!

The polite version of what I would say is that I really do not like names that swop sex, especially when novel. I'm not wild about names that are only part way through transition, either.

Claire is wrong on a boy. If you want the "transferred surname " approach (which I think has been used for boys) then spell it Clare. But I think that would also be difficult to live with (to put it mildly),

Oi Yoni.

Julie is very feminine ACTSHERLEY. smile

Theres another thread about calling a girl Oscar.

Do these people not realise that these children have to live with these names?

amothersplaceisinthewrong Wed 15-May-13 14:33:34

Utterly ridiculous. You are setting your child up for bullying in five years time.

AntsMarching Wed 15-May-13 14:34:56

I read a book once with a male character called Clare. It was short for Claredge (I think it was the mother's surname).

DomesticCEO Wed 15-May-13 14:35:46

Boy named Sue? wink

Don't be daft, Claire/Clare/Clair are girls' names - I should know, it's my name! grin

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 15-May-13 14:39:54

I'm sure this is a joke thread. Especially since the OP hasn't posted on MN before.

How about Tracey or Sharon?

piprabbit Wed 15-May-13 14:42:18

I think Clair is a very old-fashioned boys name and has long fallen out of use. You wouldn't be doing a boy any favours by trying to resurrect it as a boy's name.

Or you could go all Hardyesque and try Angel Clare.

CashmereHoodlum Wed 15-May-13 14:45:04

I know a male Clair. He is in his 70s. I think it is not an uncommon name where he lives.

YoniYoniNameLeft Wed 15-May-13 14:51:39


MadBusLady Wed 15-May-13 14:52:10

Why does anyone do this? Genuine question. I'm hardly a bluff old traditionalist where gender stuff is concerned, I just can't imagine deciding it was a great idea to randomly use an opposite-sex name (as distinct from a unisex name), any more than I'd randomly decide to call a child <looks wildly around> Desk or Lamp or Cup of Tea.

So why do it? Other than to make a very cutesy point about structuralism and semiology, in which case you are plainly a bit of a knob.

Greensleeves Wed 15-May-13 14:54:55

There are lots of names like Claire that used to be unisex - Kerry, Anne, Hilary, Christy, Jocelyn. Anne de Montmorency was a famously vicious French general.

It all depends on whether you want to put up with the "ooh, really?" responses or not, and whether you think your child will appreciate your choice (I think unusual names are more acceptable in some areas/spheres than others. Fine if you live in Totnes!)

Fuckwittery Wed 15-May-13 14:55:06

clair is a very traditional boys name but it is waaaaaaaay out of use now and not many people will know that, sorry but your child will be ridiculed at school

GibberTheMonkey Wed 15-May-13 14:55:12

If you go for Clair I think you have to send them to prep and public school too

salmanadersamantha Wed 15-May-13 14:59:34

Interesting view points, thanks guys. Still got some time to decide before I pick him up from the breeders in early June.

BuntyPenfold Wed 15-May-13 15:01:03

I think it was a nn for Clarence - but don't do it.

TerrysNo2 Wed 15-May-13 15:05:44

No way.

MadBusLady Wed 15-May-13 15:07:43

Anne de Montmorency was a famously vicious French general.

grin Excellent trivia.

Greensleeves Wed 15-May-13 15:09:16


CashmereHoodlum Wed 15-May-13 15:09:23

Is he a Staffie?

everythinghippie29 Wed 15-May-13 15:10:53

Your baby your choice but I think Johnny Cash would have the following to say: wink

"A Boy Named Sue" ( or Claire)

My daddy left home when I was three
And he didn't leave much to ma and me
Just this old guitar and an empty bottle of booze.
Now, I don't blame him cause he run and hid
But the meanest thing that he ever did
Was before he left, he went and named me "Sue."

Well, he must o' thought that is quite a joke
And it got a lot of laughs from a' lots of folk,
It seems I had to fight my whole life through.
Some gal would giggle and I'd get red
And some guy'd laugh and I'd bust his head,
I tell ya, life ain't easy for a boy named "Sue."

Well, I grew up quick and I grew up mean,
My fist got hard and my wits got keen,
I'd roam from town to town to hide my shame.
But I made a vow to the moon and stars
That I'd search the honky-tonks and bars
And kill that man who gave me that awful name.

Well, it was Gatlinburg in mid-July
And I just hit town and my throat was dry,
I thought I'd stop and have myself a brew.
At an old saloon on a street of mud,
There at a table, dealing stud,
Sat the dirty, mangy dog that named me "Sue."

Well, I knew that snake was my own sweet dad
From a worn-out picture that my mother'd had,
And I knew that scar on his cheek and his evil eye.
He was big and bent and gray and old,
And I looked at him and my blood ran cold
And I said: "My name is 'Sue!' How do you do!
Now your gonna die!!"

Well, I hit him hard right between the eyes
And he went down, but to my surprise,
He come up with a knife and cut off a piece of my ear.
But I busted a chair right across his teeth
And we crashed through the wall and into the street
Kicking and a' gouging in the mud and the blood and the beer.

I tell ya, I've fought tougher men
But I really can't remember when,
He kicked like a mule and he bit like a crocodile.
I heard him laugh and then I heard him cuss,
He went for his gun and I pulled mine first,
He stood there lookin' at me and I saw him smile.

And he said: "Son, this world is rough
And if a man's gonna make it, he's gotta be tough
And I knew I wouldn't be there to help ya along.
So I give ya that name and I said goodbye
I knew you'd have to get tough or die
And it's the name that helped to make you strong."

He said: "Now you just fought one hell of a fight
And I know you hate me, and you got the right
To kill me now, and I wouldn't blame you if you do.
But ya ought to thank me, before I die,
For the gravel in ya guts and the spit in ya eye
Cause I'm the son-of-a-bitch that named you "Sue.'"

I got all choked up and I threw down my gun
And I called him my pa, and he called me his son,
And I came away with a different point of view.
And I think about him, now and then,
Every time I try and every time I win,
And if I ever have a son, I think I'm gonna name him
Bill or George! Anything but Sue! I still hate that name!

seeker Wed 15-May-13 15:11:07

He'll be embarrassed in the park- I bet you'll put a pink harness on him, and not let him roll in fox poo with all his friends......

cuillereasoupe Wed 15-May-13 15:16:07

The only male Clare I can think of is Clare Quilty in Lolita and he's a big ole peedo. Not a great reference.

TerrysNo2 Wed 15-May-13 15:16:22

Great song everythinghippie

I love the bit "my name is Sue, how do you do, now you gonna die" grin

DaemonPantalaemon Wed 15-May-13 15:17:47

The scoffers here are the ridiculous ones, particularly those who don't seem to appreciate that Clare was actually a boy's name originally. It is true, however, that it is now popular as a girl's name.

Incidentally, the name Evelyn, now only used for girls, was also a boy's name. The author Evelyn Waugh was very much a man, and there is even an Agatha Christie novel, "Mrs McGinty's Dead", that turns on Evelyn being a boy's name.

OP, it is a great name, maybe you can bring it back into fashion for boys!!! I would go with Clare, though without the i, or Clair.

And if you feel discouraged, listen to the country song called "A Boy Named Sue"!

Good luck to you!

PiratePanda Wed 15-May-13 15:18:05

Clare without an "i" is a male name, but a very old fashioned and posh one.

I don't think it would matter if he was destined for Eton, but if not, no.

DaemonPantalaemon Wed 15-May-13 15:18:59

Oh wow, I cross-posted with everythinghippie

smile smile

Rassy Wed 15-May-13 15:20:05

There is also a male Clare in Tess of the D'Ubervilles by Thomas Hardy, if my memory serves me right!

LemonsLimes Wed 15-May-13 15:24:23

If he was a boy rather than a dog, then I'm not conviced he would never be teased with this name if he went to prep and public school!

HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Wed 15-May-13 15:31:59

Afternoon. We would normally delete this thread as it was started by one of the hairy-handed brigade but we're not sure we can bring ourselves to delete a thread that manages to reference Anne de Montmorency, Lolita and the entire lyrics of a Johnny Cash song in just 39 posts.


kelda Wed 15-May-13 15:33:54

Rassy the Clare in Tess of the D'Urbervilles is called Angel Claire.

OP what about Angel?

cuillereasoupe Wed 15-May-13 15:34:36

And Angel Clare was a not someone you'd like to name a kid after either!

MadBusLady Wed 15-May-13 15:35:32


NapaCab Wed 15-May-13 15:44:07

Why not spell it 'Clare' instead and then when people say 'oh, Clare for a boy, that's unusual?', you can smile and say 'he's named after Clare Quilty, the pervert / pornographer in Nabokov's Lolita'.

That should impress them.

NapaCab Wed 15-May-13 15:45:46

Oops, cross-post! Another Nabokov fan on this thread, clearly...!

loopydoo Wed 15-May-13 15:52:34

Sinclair defo but Claire in today's judge world MIT not work quite so well.

spiderlight Wed 15-May-13 15:53:16


PiratePanda Wed 15-May-13 16:14:13

MNHQ, you got cojones!

<mutual respect>

DaemonPantalaemon Wed 15-May-13 16:21:57

Oh God! We was had!

recall Wed 15-May-13 16:23:00

I have three sons…all called Claire

LifeIsBetterInFlipFlops Wed 15-May-13 16:23:21

Lovely for a boy too, how about Lucy as a middle name.

elQuintoConyo Wed 15-May-13 16:49:43

Nursey in Blackadder - wasn't her name Bernard?

We have dts Persephone and Maud, expecting dc3, a dd we'll call Jesus grin

BraveLilBear Wed 15-May-13 17:01:47

Lol at the reference to Sharon and Tracey... Tracey is actually an actual unisex name, popular in America on boys, spelled without the e. I should know - I carry the male spelling as a middle name. <Thanks parents>

I'd much prefer Bella on a boy tbh...

That's one of my fave HQ messages EVAH.

AuntieStella Wed 15-May-13 17:16:31

If Bernard's OK for a girl, does that also make Sodoff OK for a boy?

Though Bob has crept in as a female nn.

seeker Wed 15-May-13 18:48:14

Or Donald and Eric?

everlong Wed 15-May-13 20:46:03

What is going on with all the trolls?

Come on trolls if you're gonna post pick a better topic than calling your boy dog Claire smile

hawkmcqueen Wed 15-May-13 20:52:25

I'm with you domesticCEO, name him Sue

ifindoubtnamechange Wed 15-May-13 21:42:19

I met one once.. about twenty five years ago. He wasn't very nice. Probably because he had struggled through life as a Boy Named Sue Clair

KittenofDoom Wed 15-May-13 23:12:22

Was the Oscar one a troll too? I never believed that one for a moment,

mikkii Wed 15-May-13 23:18:07

I don't understand why you'd do this. I went on a residential course and when the rooms were allocated, Lee was put in a boys room. Unfortunately Lee was a girl.......

raisah Thu 16-May-13 03:21:57

If your secondary school is anything like my local one then you might need to send him to some self defense classes first. Please give him a known boys name, life is hard for kids in general so dont add a further obstacle for him.

BoyMeetsWorld Sat 18-May-13 07:44:00

Clair is a male name in quite a lot of romantic literature. If you don't want the odd looks use it as a nn for Sinclair

KittenofDoom Sat 18-May-13 12:40:46

People, this is not real

mewkins Sat 18-May-13 21:56:32

I am a Claire. Was at school with approx. 325 other Claires, met many more in the years since. They have all been girls.

I know a male Kerry, a male Vivian and a female Kevin.......I still wouldn't do it.

Join the discussion

Join the discussion

Registering is free, easy, and means you can join in the discussion, get discounts, win prizes and lots more.

Register now